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You are here: Home / Politics / America / If You See Something, Say Something: Insider Threat Indicators For Recruitment

If You See Something, Say Something: Insider Threat Indicators For Recruitment

by Adam L Silverman|  March 27, 20187:10 pm| 128 Comments

This post is in: America, Domestic Politics, Election 2016, Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Politics, Popular Culture, Post-racial America, Silverman on Security, Not Normal

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I did my required, annual insider threat training today. One bit of information stood out far more this year than it is ever had before.

Insider threat indicators:

Recruitment

  • Reportable indicators of recruitment include, but are not limited to:
  • Unreported request for critical assets1 outside official channels
  • Unreported or frequent foreign travel
  • Suspicious foreign contacts
  • Contact with an individual who is known to be, or is suspected of being, associated with foreign intelligence, security, or terrorism
  • Unreported offer of financial assistance, gifts, or favors by a foreign national or stranger: Beware of those bearing gifts

1 “Critical assets” are assets essential to an organization’s mission or to national security that, if exploited, could result in serious harm. They include: classified information; proprietary information; intellectual property; trade secrets; personnel security.

I just can’t quite put my finger on why this stood out at me more this year…

So remember: if you see something, say something!

Stay frosty!

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    March 27, 2018 at 7:11 pm

    Finally, a thread I can comment in.

  2. 2.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    @Baud: You’re welcome!

  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    March 27, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    This is the shitty-person open thread, right?

  4. 4.

    Corner Stone

    March 27, 2018 at 7:13 pm

    God, I hope so.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    March 27, 2018 at 7:14 pm

    annual insider threat training today

    Probably the first year when the training produced howls of laughter from the trainees.

  6. 6.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 27, 2018 at 7:14 pm

    @Baud: I think, as Steve in the ATL noted, attorneys were unwelcome in the previous thread.

  7. 7.

    jl

    March 27, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    Nothing about someone griping around the water cooler about famous porn stars they had sex with, who probably have pix, but they won’t abide by the NDA? What kind of crummy insider threat indicator for recruitment training is that?

  8. 8.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 7:18 pm

    @dmsilev: @Corner Stone: But of course!

  9. 9.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 7:18 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: As is tradition…

  10. 10.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    March 27, 2018 at 7:19 pm

    I did the same training a year ago (required for all USDOT employees whether they handle any type of sensitive material or not). Noted the same thing and furthermore my training included a list of psychosocial warning signs including anger, resentment, etc. that also fit a certain person to a T.

  11. 11.

    jl

    March 27, 2018 at 7:19 pm

    @Baud:

    ” Finally, a thread I can comment in. ”

    Baud 2020! campaign recruitment thread!

  12. 12.

    scav

    March 27, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    @Corner Stone: As do many of us.

  13. 13.

    Fair Economist

    March 27, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    @Baud: Ridiculous. Baud, you are the ultimate outsider.

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: This did too.

  15. 15.

    Brachiator

    March 27, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    I did my required, annual insider threat training today. One bit of information stood out far more this year than it is ever had before.

    Insider threat indicators

    This is very sad and very funny.

  16. 16.

    RSA

    March 27, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    I went through training a few months ago, and when I came across this report in NY Magazine,

    Senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, whose inability to obtain permanent security clearance has come under renewed scrutiny in recent weeks, requests more information from the intelligence community than any other White House employee who isn’t working on the National Security Council, according to an unnamed source who spoke with the Washington Post.

    I immediately thought of this red flag:

    Attempting to expand access to critical assets by repeatedly volunteering for assignments or duties beyond the normal scope of responsibilities

  17. 17.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    @Brachiator: Yep and yep!

  18. 18.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    @RSA: Yep. That’s in the rundown at one of the links.

  19. 19.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 27, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    I remember that, when I was stationed in Germany, the markers were spending a lot of money relative to income, driving a sports car, taking frequent trips to other countries. My buddy and I used to talk about it as we drove in his Porsche to go skiing in Austria and Switzerland every weekend we could.

  20. 20.

    Mary G

    March 27, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    Open thread?

    Politico Magazine has a feature on a dark horse Democratic presidential candidate who’s a great alternative to Bernie/Joe/Elizabeth and other grey hairs. His name is Pete Buttigieg and he’s the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.

    Buttigieg, 36, is getting closer to a presidential race. And serious people are telling the South Bend, Indiana, mayor, who’d be the first major presidential candidate who’s openly gay, an Afghanistan veteran or a millennial, to take it seriously.

    I like him and I’ve been following him on twitter since he did unexpectedly well in the race to head the DNC (and between Tom Perez and Keith Ellison, getting attention is an achievement.)

    There’s no winning the 2020 Democratic campaign, Buttigieg told the ballroom, that includes the words “back” or “again.”

    “There’s no going back. There’s no ‘again’ to be had. Things are going to be different,” Buttigieg explained later, in the podcast. “There was a liberal era in American politics that lasted 30 or 40 years, followed by a conservative era that lasted 30 or 40 years. And now, we’re on the doorstep of a new era.”

    When he sets up a committee, I am going to donate. He’s perfect foil for Twitler and I can see the #MarchForOurLives kidz really going for him.

  21. 21.

    Brachiator

    March 27, 2018 at 7:26 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:

    Noted the same thing and furthermore my training included a list of psychosocial warning signs including anger, resentment, etc. that also fit a certain person to a T.

    To a T.

    I see what you did there.

  22. 22.

    LAO

    March 27, 2018 at 7:27 pm

    @Baud: @dmsilev: Ah, finally!

  23. 23.

    lamh36

    March 27, 2018 at 7:32 pm

    This witch was wrong, and spread this bullshit far and wide and now it’s too damn late…cause now the usual folks calling her retraction FAKE NEWS. She was looking for something to discredit one of the Parkland kids…so she took an doctored video and ran full tilt with it. Of course nothing will happen to her…Redstate will just keep on trucking along…but I hope that karma does it’s due diligence on this heffa. And I’m with Soledad…this is a lame azz apology.

    I’ll link to Soledad’s tweet, but not a direct link to that woman…

    @soledadobrien
    A sloppy reporter apologizes for calling a teenager who survived a mass shooting a liar in a long, and lame apology. Jesus
    https://twitter.com/soledadobrien/status/978773482304655362

  24. 24.

    Dmbeaster

    March 27, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    The revelation that Kushner sought secret back channel communications is just gigantic. There was no proper purpose for doing that. It has guilt written all over it.. It seems lost in all the other sleaze, and also it has not been disclosed what the purpose was, so it simmers below the surface. Some day more of this story will be known.

  25. 25.

    JMG

    March 27, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    In 2000, I was lucky enough to cover the Sydney Olympics for my paper. One slow day, I thought that the dog and pony show to be held by the Beijing 2008 committee would be a good story. It was, kind of, mostly because the Chinese speakers were so much like the Atlanta Olympic Committee in so many ways (nix to the solidarity of the proletariat, up with local boosterism) as to amuse me. But the highlight came after the press op when I and the Philadelphia writer who was the only other American there were approached by a beautiful young woman in a suit that cost more than my car who was with the Beijing delegation and asked us if she could video interviews with us. Sure. We weren’t going to turn her down. She asked some boilerplate questions and I truthfully said it would be neat to see China, as did the Philly guy. It was only later we realized she hadn’t been really filming us, she’d been filming the Olympic ID photocard hung around our necks. Somewhere in the bowels of the Forbidden City is me, listed as an unwitting agent of the People’s Republic. I was out of the newspaper business before 2008, so the flirtation never got past that, I guess.

  26. 26.

    efgoldman

    March 27, 2018 at 7:36 pm

    I guess that’s the end of the non-shitty thread.

  27. 27.

    debbie

    March 27, 2018 at 7:36 pm

    @lamh36:

    What more could you expect from someone at Redstate? Right now, there’s a guy on a FB friend’s post insisting that Hogg is questionable because his father is with the CIA. I’m ticked because I can’t report the post.

  28. 28.

    JPL

    March 27, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    @Baud: Unless you are a member of the Trump clan, you can post on this thread.

  29. 29.

    Calouste

    March 27, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    @Mary G: Being mayor of a city of 100,000 is not enough experience to run for President. Let him go for something in between first. And yeah, it sucks that he is from Indiana, where it might be hard for him to become Governor or Senator.

    ETA: that he thinks he can run for president with his limited experience is a major disqualifier for me.

  30. 30.

    zhena gogolia

    March 27, 2018 at 7:41 pm

    @efgoldman:

    I’m still back there commenting into empty space.

  31. 31.

    debbie

    March 27, 2018 at 7:42 pm

    A description of a PBS show broadcasting tonight:

    An astrophysicist, preacher, philosopher and artisanal mortician reflect on universal questions of mortality and rethink the place of human beings in the universe.

    What the heck is an artisanal mortician???

  32. 32.

    efgoldman

    March 27, 2018 at 7:42 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:

    my training included a list of psychosocial warning signs including anger, resentment, etc.

    Because people waiting in line for two hours, wondering if they’re going to make their flight, wouldn’t be angry or resentful.

  33. 33.

    Mnemosyne

    March 27, 2018 at 7:45 pm

    Today I got to make someone scan his ID badge before I would let him through the gate behind me. But because of where I work, I did it with a big “have a magical day!” smile. ?

  34. 34.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 27, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    @debbie: If you have to ask, you can’t afford it.

  35. 35.

    divF

    March 27, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    @debbie: When I first read it I thought it was describing a single person, rather than four people.

  36. 36.

    lamh36

    March 27, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    Open thread…ok…so…um this happned –>

    @usweekly
    Follow Follow @usweekly
    More
    Topshop heiress Chloe Green is pregnant with her first child with ‘hot felon’ Jeremy Meeks

    I can’t be the ONLY one who thought of the Dave Chappelle…Oprah skit when reading this…LOL

    Dave Gets Oprah Pregnant – Uncensored https://on.cc.com/QD9AYR via @comedycentral

  37. 37.

    TenguPhule

    March 27, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    @Baud:

    Probably the first year when the training produced howls of laughter from the trainees.

    Reminds me of the Farside cartoon where every sheep in the flock turns out to be a wolf in drag.

  38. 38.

    divF

    March 27, 2018 at 7:49 pm

    @Mnemosyne: That is some pretty rigorous security – does The Mouse have a plutonium facility ?

  39. 39.

    TenguPhule

    March 27, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Because people waiting in line for two hours, wondering if they’re going to make their flight, wouldn’t be angry or resentful.

    How would they notice when they’re stuck on their smartphone?

  40. 40.

    TenguPhule

    March 27, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    @divF:

    does The Mouse have a plutonium facility ?

    She could tell you, but then she’d have to kill you.

  41. 41.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    @debbie:

    Morticians who assist the Family in bringing back some of the friends and family involvement in death and burial, rather than for profit funerals.

  42. 42.

    efgoldman

    March 27, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    driving a sports car, taking frequent trips to other countries.

    When I was a lad, and dad was stationed in Germany, all the young single officers bought sports cars and spent the weekends and off days driving to other countries.

  43. 43.

    TenguPhule

    March 27, 2018 at 7:54 pm

    @efgoldman:

    all the young single officers bought sports cars and spent the weekends and off days driving to other countries.

    So to France then?

  44. 44.

    Kathleen

    March 27, 2018 at 7:55 pm

    @debbie: Services only locally sourced corpses?

  45. 45.

    TenguPhule

    March 27, 2018 at 7:58 pm

    @Kathleen:

    Services only locally sourced corpses?

    Killed humanely and without artificial preservatives?

  46. 46.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 7:59 pm

    @divF: @Kathleen:

    Free range, organically raised, from small Family owned farms and cooperatives.

  47. 47.

    debbie

    March 27, 2018 at 7:59 pm

    @Jay:

    So, an off-label use of an overused word.

  48. 48.

    efgoldman

    March 27, 2018 at 8:00 pm

    @divF:

    That is some pretty rigorous security

    Hell, when I worked at Enormous Brokerage and Mutual Funds LLC, at an office park in the middle of nowhere, we had to swipe photo RFD IDs to get into the building, to get access to certain floors, and to get into certain workspace. Always seemed like overkill to me.

  49. 49.

    lamh36

    March 27, 2018 at 8:02 pm

    As someone said… China schooling Kim on how to get the most out of Chump?

    @kaitlancollins
    Follow Follow @kaitlancollins
    More
    CNN: China has announced that North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un paid an unofficial visit to the country from March 25th to 28th, according to Chinese state media.

    https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/978779962349096961

    Here is a pic: https://twitter.com/chadocl/status/978781054407294976

  50. 50.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 27, 2018 at 8:02 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    So to France then?

    I’m sure just to visit these folk.

  51. 51.

    efgoldman

    March 27, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    So to France then?

    Luxemourg, Holland, Denmark, other parts of Germany (Bavaria was popular). Actually any place not under Soviet occupation.

  52. 52.

    Jeffro

    March 27, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    @jl:

    Nothing about someone griping around the water cooler about famous porn stars they had sex with, who probably have pix, but they won’t abide by the NDA? What kind of crummy insider threat indicator for recruitment training is that?

    It’s a little specific, is all I’m saying. You can’t prepare for every possibility.

    Besides, what kind of moron would let himself get set up like that? Totes unrealistic…

  53. 53.

    Kathleen

    March 27, 2018 at 8:06 pm

    My youngest brother lives in a huge apartment complex in a northern Cincinnati neighborhood. Several years ago, a Russian woman occupied an apartment a couple of floors down from his unit. They would meet as they were entering or leaving the building and eventually became somewhat friendly. If I recall she had a killer plant. They went to a concert together and she invited him to a party which included only other Russians. We joked that he was probably consorting with Russian spies.

    A day or two after Feds busted a Russian gambling ring back east (in 2013), she suddenly moved without warning or farewell. We both thought that move was not coincidental. She left the killer plant.

  54. 54.

    Kathleen

    March 27, 2018 at 8:06 pm

    @TenguPhule: Uses only gluten free, organic embalming fluid.

  55. 55.

    Miss Bianca

    March 27, 2018 at 8:07 pm

    @Calouste: Well, tbf, Mayor of South Bend is one metric shit-ton more political experience than the current PO(TU)S had upon taking office.

  56. 56.

    RobertDSC-Mac Mini

    March 27, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    @lamh36:

    Wow. KJU actually left the country? Weird.

  57. 57.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    @debbie:

    Yes, and no. Once upon a time, families, friends and the community, with some help from a Minister, would manage the death and funeral process, which would often last up to a week.

    It would require intimate contact with the body, often some rituals long since abandoned, gifts of service from the community, and was often a core part of the grieving process.

  58. 58.

    Kelly

    March 27, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    @efgoldman: When I worked for Gigantic Global Tech Corp my cube was in a small rented building near the main campus with absolutely terrible card locks. Often took 5~6 swipes to get in. One day in frustration I tried slipping the card into the latch like in the movies and IT WORKED. Eventually someone in management noticed me and decent locks were installed. I retained an undeserved rep as an ace hacker.

  59. 59.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 8:11 pm

    @RobertDSC-Mac Mini:

    He has an armoured train.

  60. 60.

    Mnemosyne

    March 27, 2018 at 8:11 pm

    @divF:

    How else can we keep Walt’s head cold enough?

    Shit, I’ve said too much.

  61. 61.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 27, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Yup, you’ll get a visit from The Mouse tonight.

  62. 62.

    Gravenstone

    March 27, 2018 at 8:17 pm

    @Jay: Wonder if Putiin gave him a discount on an unused railcard mobile ICBM launcher?

  63. 63.

    Corner Stone

    March 27, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    @lamh36: And that no good, low down dirty swamp POS Sarah Rumpf shows up alllll the time in NeverTrumper’s twit feeds.
    And that is to say, a reminder that I hate Tom Nichols’ fucking guts. He was also criticizing David Hogg earlier today. In very specious ways.

  64. 64.

    Repatriated

    March 27, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    Didn’t they have a fleet of submarines?

    … And a space program, too.

  65. 65.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 27, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    @efgoldman: Yep. They found a method identifying both spies and company grade officers.

  66. 66.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 27, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    @Jay: And here I thought Strelnikov was Pasha Antipov.

  67. 67.

    danielx

    March 27, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    @debbie:

    What the heck is an artisanal mortician???

    Inquiring minds want to know. Maybe they stuff skulls with brie?

  68. 68.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    ar·ti·san·al
    ärˈtēzən(ə)l/Submit
    adjective
    relating to or characteristic of an artisan.
    “artisanal skills”
    (of a product, especially food or drink) made in a traditional or non-mechanized way.
    “artisanal cheeses”

  69. 69.

    Southern Goth

    March 27, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    @debbie:

    I don’t know, but be assured that he does it in Earnest.

  70. 70.

    Repatriated

    March 27, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    @Southern Goth:

    @debbie:

    I don’t know, but be assured that he does it in Earnest.

    Dead Earnest.

  71. 71.

    Mary G

    March 27, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    @Calouste: @Miss Bianca: Obama had less administrative experience when he was elected president. More from the profile:

    Yes, Buttigieg has no clear path forward in Indiana politics. Yes, he would be the first openly gay presidential candidate, let alone president. He really did return to South Bend after Harvard and a Rhodes scholarship. He has a hard name for politics (it’s Maltese, translating to roughly “lord of the poultry”). Yes, he knows it’s ridiculous to actually think about jumping from a City Hall for 101,000 people to the White House, but serious people have been pushing him to run, and he is seriously thinking about it.

    Nowhere to go?

    “I understand where that narrative comes from,” he said. “But again, I think it underestimates the role of surprise in politics.”

    Of course, YMMV. The end:

    But before that, he started with Trump.

    “Every day this president is in office, he yanks out a thread of what it means to be an American,” Buttigieg said, “and he will keep pulling one thread at a time, unraveling what it means to be an American, until our republic is just a tangled mess of yarn in his little hands.”

    He went on, “Americans already know that lying is wrong. That racism is wrong. That denigrating women is wrong. … They all know about him. They’re waiting to see who’ll be talking about them.”

    By 2021, many Democrats assume, this will end with Buttigieg in Washington, one way or another.

    “Pete’s going to be a force in the Democratic Party,” said Axelrod. “The question is just whether that’s as a candidate for president, or something else.”

  72. 72.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 8:30 pm

    @lamh36: The rumpfshaker!

  73. 73.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    March 27, 2018 at 8:30 pm

    @Jay:

    And I was assuming it had to do with old-school mummification, maybe Viking-style pyres and burials at sea.

  74. 74.

    danielx

    March 27, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    @Mary G:

    “Americans already know that lying is wrong. That racism is wrong. That denigrating women is wrong. … They all know about him. They’re waiting to see who’ll be talking about them.”

    Some Americans, anyway.

  75. 75.

    Gelfling 545

    March 27, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    @Calouste: I want to see people with at least SOME foreign policy exposure running. It’s going to be a big job unwinding this mess.

  76. 76.

    Mnemosyne

    March 27, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    @Mary G:

    What other offices has he held? Obama was both a state and a US senator and had held elective office for a dozen years before 2008.

  77. 77.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 27, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Oblig.

  78. 78.

    danielx

    March 27, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    @Gelfling 545:

    Well, there is his experience in dealing with both South Bend’s black and Polish-extraction populations, which is a pretty sharp divide.

  79. 79.

    Mnemosyne

    March 27, 2018 at 8:34 pm

    @Gelfling 545:

    Why do you think the propaganda against Hillary continues from the left? The last thing the Russians want is for a former Secretary of State to get involved in unwinding this mess, and they’ll do everything they can to smear anyone who tries to enlist Hillary’s help.

  80. 80.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    @debbie: Which is itself screwing up the conspiracy. His father is a retired FBI special agent.

  81. 81.

    Chyron HR

    March 27, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    @Mary G:

    Wow, we haven’t even had the midterms yet and already we’ve selected 2020’s One True Candidate Who Must be Nominated or the World Will Be Destroyed For Denying His Glory. Glad to see the left is on top of things.

  82. 82.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    @debbie: A mortician that uses extra virgin olive oil and Himalayan salt in his or her proprietary embalming fluid.//

  83. 83.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while):

    Probably possible if you can get the permits, boats and pyramids, maybe ask Ben Carson.

  84. 84.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    March 27, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    I thought you were going to mention the story about how Jared requested more intel by far than anyone else, which I’m sure included plenty outside his need-to-know. Indicator #1.

  85. 85.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    @Kathleen: Ethically harvested and served from slab to table only within a 25 mile radius.

  86. 86.

    FlyingToaster

    March 27, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: And overseas employees of US Flag Carriers (Airlines). A fair number of the kids I went to MS/HS with had spent a couple-three years in EU boarding schools while their parents were loaned to national airlines in the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and east Africa. The kid I used to babysit spent his MS/HS in boarding school while his parents were loaned from TWA to Olympic and Saudia. A kid in 8th grade has spent his K-2 years in Switzerland while his parents were in Ethiopia.

    I hope the training goes beyond the “foreign travel” to “look at the context of same”.

    Edited for spelling

  87. 87.

    moops

    March 27, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    we sort of got off the lead teaser, which I’d like folks to get back on. People like Jared sure do set off a lot of the checklist red flags. But really, foreign assets? Do we think there are really foreign recruited agents in the White House? This bunch of people are idiots. Does having a idiot as a deep plant asset help?

  88. 88.

    moops

    March 27, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    Why recruit an idiot like JarJar when the doofus gives intel to people like the crown prince of Saudi Arabia for free.

  89. 89.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    @Jay: Here’s a picture:
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/8e/c2/c68ec2908a11fbc7672d2538899f93d2.jpg

  90. 90.

    Gravenstone

    March 27, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    @Chyron HR: don’t be an ass. Huge difference in expressing a rooting interest in a prospective candidate and anointing them the one true savior.

  91. 91.

    Kathleen

    March 27, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Also, the corpses are grass fed and free range.

  92. 92.

    Gelfling 545

    March 27, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    @Miss Bianca: so does the president of the PTA.

  93. 93.

    Trollhattan

    March 27, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    @debbie:
    Thinking of the Portlandia skit “You could pickle that!”

  94. 94.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: She doesn’t look like that.

  95. 95.

    p.a.

    March 27, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    shitty person open thread? present. do I need to sign in?

  96. 96.

    Mnemosyne

    March 27, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    @moops:

    Do we think there are really foreign recruited agents in the White House?

    What do you think Michael Flynn was?

    And keep in mind that you can recruit people who don’t realize they’ve been recruited because they think that you’re helping them do what they want. This whole crew strikes me as people who are both stupid and easy to manipulate, which is exactly what a spymaster would want.

  97. 97.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    @moops:

    Yup, it helps. Look at the history of foreign spies in the US. Not many Bonds, or Ludlum characters, or even any of Smilie’s crew.

    Mostly compromised individuals with access, who manage one way or another to avoid the checks long enough, often through mismanagement.

  98. 98.

    Mnemosyne

    March 27, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    @lamh36:

    And yet the writer’s pinned tweet is still a defense of poor, beleaguered Marco Rubio. So, yeah, eff her.

  99. 99.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    March 27, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    @moops:

    Do we think there are really foreign recruited agents in the White House?

    Yes.

  100. 100.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Kim could never wear that.

  101. 101.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 27, 2018 at 8:57 pm

    @Jay: Well they’d have to let it out…

  102. 102.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    And make it shorter, and send somebody out for a chest plate stretcher.

  103. 103.

    Corner Stone

    March 27, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    @moops:

    Why recruit an idiot like JarJar when the doofus gives intel to people like the crown prince of Saudi Arabia for free.

    Case to be made it was not for free.

  104. 104.

    rikyrah

    March 27, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    @lamh36:
    That was a funny skit???

  105. 105.

    TenguPhule

    March 27, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    @Kathleen:

    She left the killer plant.

    Does it still work free lance or just bask in the shade these days?

  106. 106.

    EBT

    March 27, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    @efgoldman: At Valve in Seattle, the building they have several floors of won’t let you press any elevator buttons besides the floor you work on.

  107. 107.

    TenguPhule

    March 27, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    @Jay:

    It would require intimate contact with the body

    Love for the dead gone too far?

  108. 108.

    Jay

    March 27, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Nope, in much of the west, the death of a loved one has become as antiseptic and outsourced as the plastic covered meat on styrofoam trays.

  109. 109.

    ARoomWithAMoose

    March 27, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    @EBT: Valve’s “Steam” as a game publishing platform for third parties is pretty much all their revenue at this point, world wide in scope, with all the hassle of covering each country’s online privacy and financial laws concerning cash equivalent transactions and payment card transactions. Damn sure they have a physical audit log of everyone that comes into that building and a default “minimal access” for all employees, even GabeN.

  110. 110.

    pnein58

    March 27, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    @Baud: Sadly, no. That’s happened more than once in my Army research lab. What’s worse are the years when they CID briefers go full Stasi, and no one notices.

  111. 111.

    satby

    March 27, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    @Calouste: well, to be fair, it’s way more relevant experience than the current illicit occupant of the Oval Office ever had. Mayor Pete seems pretty popular here, that’s really the extent of my knowledge. Seems to be doing the right things in revitalizing the city.

  112. 112.

    efgoldman

    March 27, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    @Kelly:

    I worked for Gigantic Global Tech Corp my cube was in a small rented building near the main campus with absolutely terrible card locks

    I worked at unnamed public broadcasting station in the early 70s in the early days of (magnetic) card swipes. Any card with a magnetic strip worked.

  113. 113.

    SgrAstar

    March 27, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    @Calouste: Buttigieg is a Harvard grad, Rhodes Scholar, and Afghanistan vet. Boxes ticked. I agree he should build up his experience base. Brains and guts, he has.

  114. 114.

    frosty

    March 27, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @Jay: Well, my siblings and I threw our parents overboard with our own hands, just like they asked.*

    * … to have their ashes comingled and scattered in the Chesapeake Bay.

  115. 115.

    satby

    March 27, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    @Chyron HR: that’s a dick reply to what MaryG expressed. She said, essentially, that Buttigeg is an emerging politician to watch as opposed to the current well known crop. And unlike St. Wilmer, Mayor Pete has had to actually run a multicultural rust belt city and revitalize it on a shoestring. And though people associate the wealthy Notre Dame University with South Bend, it incorporated as it’s own city so it doesn’t contribute any taxes to South Bend.
    He’s an interesting guy, and I hope he goes farther in the Democratic Party too.

  116. 116.

    GxB

    March 27, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    @divF: I’m reading it as three individuals. Oxford frigging comma people – use it, love it.

    And a sawbuck says the mortician/philosopher rides a “fixie”.

  117. 117.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 27, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    @GxB: Preach it! And “no, duh!” on the fixie.

  118. 118.

    Jager

    March 27, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah but you got discounted lift tickets, right?

  119. 119.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 27, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    @Jager: In Austria and Switzerland? Hah!

    ETA: But I got to ski there. Priorities.

  120. 120.

    Jager

    March 27, 2018 at 11:04 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: The BIL of a friend of mine was an Army Medic in Germany in the early 60’s, he spent two winters as a ski patrolman at German ski areas that catered to GIs and dependents. Great duty!

  121. 121.

    uen

    March 27, 2018 at 11:06 pm

    @Jager: We went deeper into the Alps.

  122. 122.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 27, 2018 at 11:13 pm

    @Jager: We went deeper into the Alps.

  123. 123.

    Jager

    March 27, 2018 at 11:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’ll bet you did.

  124. 124.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 27, 2018 at 11:20 pm

    @Jager: Golly.

  125. 125.

    mad citizen

    March 27, 2018 at 11:41 pm

    @Mary G: two hoosier presidents in a row! I would love that!

  126. 126.

    J R in WV

    March 27, 2018 at 11:52 pm

    @frosty:

    @Jay: Well, my siblings and I threw our parents overboard with our own hands, just like they asked.*

    * … to have their ashes comingled and scattered in the Chesapeake Bay.

    My brother and I threw my mom and dad’s ashes into a waterfall they loved, so same, kinda. We cried, even though their deaths were 7 and 1.5 years ago. Or I did, anyway.

  127. 127.

    frosty

    March 28, 2018 at 12:11 am

    @satby:

    Mayor Pete has had to actually run a multicultural rust belt city and revitalize it on a shoestring.

    He sounds like John Fetterman, mayor of Braddock, PA, who was running in the PA primary to beat Toomey and got shunted aside by the PA Dems and lost. He too was working to revitalize a rusted out Rust Belt town. Also, too, MS from Harvard.

    The D candidate (Katie McGinty) then proceeded to run an uninspiring campaign (IMHO) and I’m left with that execrable R as a senator. I dunno, I think in the climate in 2016 a tattooed, skinhead, bearded, outspoken populist/socialist could have gotten enough Trump voters to win.

  128. 128.

    Corner Stone

    March 28, 2018 at 12:34 am

    @frosty: He was an early Bernie guy and was outspoken about how Bern ditched his ass and left him hanging.

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