Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Roe isn’t about choice, it’s about freedom.

In my day, never was longer.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

Being the leader of the world means to be the leader of peace.

The revolution will be supervised.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

Come on, man.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

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All vernal equinox festivals tend to celebrate the new, the young, and the throwing off of outworn properties to make way for fresh growth — things bound to raise hives on conservative hides at the best of times. But to those rightwingers raised in the Christian tradition, where Easter is (believe it or not!) the most sacred Holy Day, it’s gotta be especially irksome. Scripture preaches that the literal embodiment of the One True Father God allowed himself to be captured, manhandled, and murdered by the government. Bad enough that the totally-within-their-rights civil authorities and their licensed security thugs should be cast as being on the wrong side… however can they reconcile this “Prince of Peace” pussified Jesus with the Flaming Sword Wrongness Punisher of their hearts’ desire?

(Of course, my own understanding here was strongly influenced by parochial school nuns who put a lot of stress on the deliberate pacifism of Easter Week, for reasons. In 1968/72, explaining to a bunch of sullen teenagers who considered their NORAID donor buttons the height of political correctness that St. Peter deserved to be rebuked for whipping out his sword at Gethsemane can’t have been easy.)

Modern pop culture isn’t easy for our ‘conservative’ opposites to enjoy, either — every time they think they’ve found a good violent shoot-em-up to applaud, mouthy Lie-brals start pointing out how ‘oppressed young special-needs minority types’ are shown more sympathetically than ‘the duly appointed legal authorities’. But ya gotta give them points for trying!…

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  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    Plenty of Good Guys with wands got dead by Bad Guys with wands in HP. Also too, magic.

  5. 5.

    Corner Stone

    @NotMax: Trump keeps trying to give him a sock hidden in a book but Sessions doesn’t read and refuses to be set free.

  6. 6.

    Baud

    That fact is, in fact, not worth remembering. It is not useful to understanding the story or any of the real world social issues we are facing.

  7. 7.

    Another Scott

    Water is wet.

    In other news, Happy Cesar Chavez Day. TeamPelosi:

    @TeamPelosi

    On #CesarChavezDay, let us recommit ourselves to the fight toward progress and toward a better future for our children, continuing his legacy of justice for all.

    Sounds good to me.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  8. 8.

    Brachiator

    Sigh. I remember the good old days when Evangelical dopes wanted to ban the Harry Potter novels because they were un Christian.

    And these dopes just can’t learn. The only thing dumber than going after the Parkland activists is going after Harry Potter. This will only rile up a generation who have grown up with the novels and films and know their Canon.

    But what the fuck, these right wing dopes might as well go on about the Jedi right to bear light sabers, and insult somebody’s momma using Klingon.

  11. 11.

    Redshift

    I also liked the responses pointing out that wands are necessary for doing all kinds of magic, including purely defensive spells, whereas guns can only be defensive by shooting it threatening to shoot the other guy. And also that spells that cause death are strictly regulated, and in most cases using them will get you put away for life.

  12. 12.

    Matt McIrvin

    Hogwarts was an incredibly dangerous place to go to school, and was the site of an enormous battle at the climax of the narrative that left a whole bunch of students and faculty dead. And most of the violent fascists who were responsible for that came out of Hogwarts itself.

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I’m not a huge Kathy Griffin fan, but I would pay for this tweet. I hope Sylvester’s Brother sees it

    Kathy Griffin @ kathygriffin
    The man who threatened a 17 year old and called him a p*ssy locked his account? I got thousands of death threats and never deleted any of my accounts or took them private. What a snowflake.

    pretty sure he also said somebody should “sucker punch” Hogg

  20. 20.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Mnemosyne: I haven’t heard my fundie Catholic aunts, or only slightly less devout cousins, weigh in on Francis, but one of my father’s old friends (died a year or so ago at 90) said early on that he missed Benedict.
    Scalia once said, in so many words, that the Pope is only infallible when he agrees with me.

  22. 22.

    MomSense

    This is as bad as when Republicans talk about how much they love Springsteen. Then there was the time Cruz read Green Eggs and Ham somehow missing the point of the story. They are lacking in comprehension skills.

  23. 23.

    Baud

    @scav:

    The left in UK isn’t doing so hot right now.

    The Labour official at the centre of an anti-Semitism row has resigned from the party’s ruling committee.

    Christine Shawcroft said her membership of the NEC had “become a distraction for the party and an excuse for endless intrusive media harassment of myself, my family and friends”.

    The row erupted after it emerged she had opposed the suspension of a council candidate accused of Holocaust denial.

    Ms Shawcroft will be replaced on the NEC by comedian Eddie Izzard.

    BBC

  27. 27.

    Duane

    It seems republicans really like the Harry Potter series. Trey Gowdy does a great Draco Malfoy impersonation. Having wrote that, I’m sorry for insulting a fictional character.

  28. 28.

    Gvg

    The HP thought that occurred to me is that Voldemort lost against the government on his first try to take over, so on his second, he snuck into controlling the government first. Civil rights era to Trump/Sessions. Yuck.

  29. 29.

    Jeffro

    I saw in our local paper that one of the local wing nuts (one of the few remaining in NoVA, one would assume) took the time to write to the editor tying the Parkland kids to…wait for it, waaaait for it…that dastardly Valerie Jarrett!! YES!!

    It’s important to ‘work the refs’ and bombard the folks who think they are doing good by publishing ‘alternate viewpoints’. Publishing something pro-gun, whatever the hell that is, is one thing; publishing conspiracy theories is another.

  30. 30.

    Jay

    @Mnemosyne:

    “conservative Catholics” have no problem ignoring the Pope or Church doctrine, and yet, still claiming they are Catholics.

  32. 32.

    Jay Noble

    @Mnemosyne: I know several fairly devout Catholics who truly don’t like Pope Francis. They want a proper Pope like they had in the 60’s.

  33. 33.

    Hungry Joe

    Going to a food-only Seder tomorrow: traditional eats, no ceremony. When I was a kid our family Seders lasted fifteen minutes before dinner and ten (tops) afterwards. About 20 years ago I went to one that lasted two hours before dinner and 90 minutes after. Every passage was discussed and argued over, every song was sung. It was endless; sometimes I feel like I’m still there. The kicker: THE BRISKET WAS DRY. Haven’t attended the real thing since. I figure that with the time I put in that one evening, my peeps can now make it out of Egypt every year without me.

  35. 35.

    NotMax

    @Just One More Canuck

    No idea what size they’re supposed to be. Never read the books, never saw the films. The entire mythos holds zero attraction for me.

    However, the Dixie Pixie works, too.

  36. 36.

    Jeffro

    Btw not sure if folks talked about this earlier today, but OK teachers are not just underpaid and ready to walk out (even though they just – technically – got a raise)…

    …some of them are also, shall we say, a little shortsighted?

    Robert Bohn, an agriculture teacher in the small town of Cement, said he could make $20,000 more annually teaching in Texas. He pointed down the two-lane highway. “Texas is just an hour that way,” Bohn said.
    …
    Two and a half hours southwest of Oklahoma City, in Comanche County, Bohn oversees 40 acres of land, raising chickens, pigs and cattle. He rises about 5:30 a.m. and in the darkness feeds his cattle and horses. His small-scale farm — where he also grows and cans peaches — feeds his family, including his wife, a kindergarten teacher who was forced to retire because of a disability, and his 14-year-old daughter. He supports them on the $50,000 a year he earns through an extended contract and also makes money as a church pastor.

    At Cement High, he teaches students to raise their own food so they, too, can supplement their families’ diets. He has two safes in his classroom, housing shotguns for the school’s champion shooting team.

    Bohn is a registered Republican who voted for President Trump, and he is leery of unions. But the problems that he faces in the classroom — decrepit computers and old textbooks — transcend politics for him.

    Then maybe you’d better transcend right the fuck over to the Democratic column, Bohn my man. Figure it out or shut the hell up.

  37. 37.

    scav

    @Baud: England is rather comforting in demonstrating we’re not alone in this, although it does rather raise troublesome thoughts about being an anglophone.

  38. 38.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Baud: Ms Shawcroft will be replaced on the NEC by comedian Eddie Izzard.

    : : confused-dog-face emoticon : :

  40. 40.

    Citizen Alan

    @Corner Stone:

    The very first editorial published in the very first issue of National Review was a pro-Jim Crow piece by Buckley himself. So no, they’ve always been like this.

  42. 42.

    Jay

    @Jeffro:

    LMFAO, being “compared to” or “linked to” a highly sucessful WOC is considered “dastardly” by the deplorables?

    They really are moron’s.

  43. 43.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    Since it was brought up with the tweet above:

    Would Voldemort, if he had won at Hogwarts, have been able to take over the Muggle world?

  47. 47.

    Mnemosyne

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Scalia once said, in so many words, that the Pope is only infallible when he agrees with me.

    And yet those exact same people sneer that any Catholics who disagree with them are “cafeteria Catholics” because they pick and choose which teachings to follow.

    Le sigh.

  50. 50.

    scav

    @scav: Oh, and I in no way find Eddie Izzard a sign of any problem with the English left. The situation that led to Shawcroft’s quitting is far far more problematic and they don’t seem to be doing themselves any favors or winning points by grace, style or smoothness of execution.

  51. 51.

    Mnemosyne

    @Jay Noble:

    They want a proper Pope like they had in the 60’s.

    A new John XXIII to re-liberalize the RCC with Vatican III? I would be on board with that.

    But I suspect that’s not what they mean. ?

  52. 52.

    Jay

    “It’s not clear if Manjoo is a compulsive tweeter, a compulsive liar, or just another example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. I laughed and awaited the New York Times’ mea culpa. Which, astonishingly, never came.

    According to CJR, a Times spokesperson said, “The paper doesn’t view his assertion as a falsehood, and won’t be issuing a correction.”

    That kind of journalism, in a nutshell, is why I dumped my New York Times subscription more than a year ago. And why so many newspapers enjoy such a bad reputation. They are frequently, as Stephen Colbert would say, truthy.”

    https://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2018/03/27/How-Times-Shrugged-Falsehood/

  54. 54.

    'Niques (lurker; occasional commenter)

    @Jay: Look how many “Christians” ignore the teachings of Christ. It’s how they do things .
    . . pick a name or title that polls well and use it for cover.

  55. 55.

    John Revolta

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Izzard’s been a very strong Labor supporter for many years and very pro-EU. It’s a good choice.
    (Unless of course there’s a photo of him pretending to grope a lady’s breasts 20 years ago lurking around somewhere /s)

  56. 56.

    Jeffro

    @Jay: I really hate to even think about what goes on in their minds, but it’s something like

    1) No way could some white male teen be anti-gun…or be part of organizing something this big this fast…or be eating our lunch like this…
    2) Jarrett is a major fixation on the Right…Obama’s puppeteer…basically Lex Luthor with hair and melanin and without, oh, a you-know…

    It’d be funnier if these folks weren’t so absolutely nuts.

  57. 57.

    Jeffro

    @Joe Miller: Someone should set off a few loud firecrackers in Ted’s vicinity, and then please also get video of the wet stain spreading on his pants…such a bold specimen of American masculinity!

  58. 58.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @Jay:

    Fourth: read the views of people you disagree with, as long as they write well. Writing well is the key here. It’s easy to dismiss the functionally illiterate. But how about reasonable people who can turn a phrase while making an argument with which you just happen to disagree?

    I disagree with this. David Brooks writes reasonably well. Doesn’t mean he isn’t full of shit or has anything useful to say.

  61. 61.

    Jay

    @? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:

    I don’t read Brooks, or Noonan, or Sully, or any of those clowns. I read driftglass, NoMoreMisterNiceBlog and The Rectification of Names, so I don’t have to concern my beautiful mind with the FTFNYT Opinion Page, and I get my Krugman elsewhere.

  62. 62.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @Jay:
    I was criticising the author of the piece you linked to. Should have made that clear.

  63. 63.

    RSA

    @John Revolta: @John Revolta:

    I never heard the comment, and I don’t know the context, and I still hate Scalia’s guts, but…………..as far as the law of the land goes, he was right.

    I meant this:

    “If I thought that Catholic doctrine held the death penalty to be immoral, I would resign,” he told an audience at Duquesne University Law School last month. “I could not be part of a system that imposes it.”

    I agree that a Justice shouldn’t be beholden to the views of foreign leaders (to put the situation in secular terms) but I also think that this was special pleading on Scalia’s part. It’s pretty clear that the Catholic Church, from the Pope at least down to the U.S. Bishops, opposes capital punishment. Most Catholics are cafeteria Catholics (if we were to take a survey on, say, premarital sex, contraception, divorce, gay marriage…) which is fine, but Scalia was pretty self-righteous.

  64. 64.

    Ruckus

    @Jeffro:
    Short sighted?
    Can you say blinded by stupidity?
    I know cause and effect is a anti conservative doctrine but still…..

  66. 66.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @RSA: but Scalia was pretty self-righteous.

    also part of a political movement that maintains that if the secular law doesn’t conform to their religious beliefs (on abortion and marriage), that they are the victims of religious discrimination.

  67. 67.

    Mnemosyne

    @Jeffro:

    IIRC, what Jarratt is known for is being a political connector — she has a huge Rolodex that she uses to connect people to others who are on the same side of an issue but don’t know each other.

    That’s why having her get involved scares the shit out of the right wing. She can put all of the disparate gun control groups in touch with each other and create a juggernaut. It’s what she does.

  70. 70.

    Ruckus

    @NotMax:
    I gave out a Rube Goldberg award when someone would find the most difficult and/or least safe way to do anything in the shop. It was not often an appreciated award. But several times it was richly deserved.

  74. 74.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Jeffro:

    Then maybe you’d better transcend right the fuck over to the Democratic column, Bohn my man. Figure it out or shut the hell up.

    That’s terribly un-civil…(fans self)…calls for fainting couch.

  81. 81.

    Jeffro

    @Mnemosyne: I think maybe 10% of wing nuts fear her for that reason and the other 90% fear her because she is a powerful black woman

  82. 82.

    Another Scott

    In other, other news… OrenDorell:

    Oren Dorell Verified account @OrenDorell

    Oren Dorell Retweeted Julia Davis

    I asked @StateDept about this, and it’s true. Trump’s expulsion this week of 60 Russian diplomats does not require the Russia to reduce its staffing levels in the U.S. and vice versa.

    Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews

    #Russia’s state TV: Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, says that 60 expelled Russian “diplomats” can be replaced by 60 others. The U.S. is reportedly not limiting the size of Russian diplomatic mission in the U.S., like Russia is doing to…

    9:56 AM – 30 Mar 2018

    (Face-Palm)

    I hope Mueller is keeping track. Grrr…

    (via LOLGOP on Twitter)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  83. 83.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Jeffro: Valerie Jarrett is a genius then. Rightwingers haven’t been able to argue against sensible gun control so they vigorously throw mud at the Parkland students and their supporters. It’s not working out so well for them. Sad.

  84. 84.

    patrick II

    Kragar
    @Kragar_LGF
    Also worth remembering:

    Its fiction

    That struck home for me. I was listening to Rush’s vacation replacement (some RWNJ) who was talking about how clear and important it was that “Red Sparrow” (Jennifer Lawrence’s new movie) showed how terrible and ruthless communist russia was.

    Confusing fiction with reality seems to be an important RW quality.

  88. 88.

    NMgal

    @schrodingers_cat: QFT. I don’t get what happened. Since 2001 when the pants-pissing took off in spades (to mix some metaphors), I’ve felt marginalized in my own country in this arena. Who are these pansies? Apparently a solid plurality, if not more.

  89. 89.

    SiubhanDuinne

    A propos of nothing much, I am currently locking horns (so to speak) in a PM group with one of the gloomiest, most negative Eeyores I’ve ever known. I love him as a friend/ former colleague, but Jesus Christ is he depressing. Finally called him on it a few minutes ago.

  93. 93.

    Schlemazel

    @Jay:
    And refuse communion to gays and pro-choice folks.

    It is so damned convenient that God believes everything I believe!

  94. 94.

    MomSense

    @NMgal:

    Republicans are using fear to manipulate the population. No one makes good decisions when they are fearful. Bush and the GOP used fear of terrorism to justify all kinds of horrible policies.

  95. 95.

    Joyce Harmon

    Hey, who’s keeping the betting books on whether Trump’s handlers can keep him off the golf course on Easter Sunday? I’m betting No.

  97. 97.

    Brachiator

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    A propos of nothing much, I am currently locking horns (so to speak) in a PM group with one of the gloomiest, most negative Eeyores I’ve ever known.

    People are going to feel whatever they feel. Some people are naturally like the deeply bitter and cynical Jacques in “As You Like It.”

    I don’t know. Maybe you can find common ground in matters of analysis or details, if not conclusions.

  99. 99.

    Mandalay

    @scav:

    England is rather comforting in demonstrating we’re not alone in this, although it does rather raise troublesome thoughts about being an anglophone.

    Without remotely excusing the doofus who posted about the Holocaust being a hoax, the situation with regard to anti-semitism in Britain is very different. Israel is widely seen as “the good guy” in the US, and many politicians on both sides are fiercely supportive of Israel. Support for the Palestinians in the US is negligible, and seeing anyone on TV supporting the Palestinian cause is a very rare event.

    Not so in Britain (and Europe in general). There is much stronger support for Palestinians, and the policies of the Israeli government are frequently criticized and deplored. The obvious peril with that position, which is frequently exploited by those of doubtful character in Britain, is to meld opposition to Israel’s government with anti-Semitism. (In contrast, it’s worth noting that I have never seen those who opposed the Mugabe’s government in Zimbabwe being tagged as racist, or those who oppose the Iranian government being tagged as anti-Muslim.)

    The same situation does not arise here because hardly anyone in politics or the media dares to openly criticize Israel.

  101. 101.

    Schlemazel

    @raven:
    Apparently you missed my jibe

    In a fictional world were a handful of kids can defeat the entire Soviet Army, Harry and his chums can all conceal carry and this proves the wingnuts correct.

  102. 102.

    Aleta

    @NMgal: White upper class guys have always used fear as a way to control non-whites, most women, queers, and the physically/mentally/economically vulnerable.

  104. 104.

    Brachiator

    @Joyce Harmon:

    Hey, who’s keeping the betting books on whether Trump’s handlers can keep him off the golf course on Easter Sunday? I’m betting No.

    Are they doing a White House Easter Egg hunt this year?

  108. 108.

    Jeffro

    @Patricia Kayden: Right. They know the kids are untouchable and are totally owning them on social media…so of COURSE the kids must be in thrall to us evil progressive older folks, Jarrett most especially.

    I guess the kids get SorosMicroChecks? Or maybe they just get paid in ‘likes’ on SnapBook and InstaWhatever?

  110. 110.

    Schlemazel

    @raven:
    Did you see my reply about your misunderstanding the wolverine comment?

    I was unaware they are still playing squeekball this late in the year.

  111. 111.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Jeffro: They also get Obamophones and lifetime supplies of T-bone steaks and caviar paid for by welfare checks.

  112. 112.

    Matt McIrvin

    @patrick II: Harry Potter is fiction, but more to the point, it’s fiction that does not at all support or advocate any right-wing ideas, and in fact is steadfastly opposed to most of them. The bad guys are specifically a movement of bigots devoted to wizard supremacy with a hierarchy of blood purity, and their rule is fascism. Rowling is not remotely subtle about this.

  113. 113.

    Amir Khalid

    The March For Our Lives kids aren’t merely cosplaying Harry Potter. They’ve taken its ideals to heart and its story as a blueprint for organisation and action. They’ve learned from Harry’s many mistakes along the way, like Harry himself had to. It sounds facile to say that Harry is their Jesus, but I think that it is arguably true.

  115. 115.

    geg6

    @Matt McIrvin:

    And she won’t be subtle when she tweets back about how they don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about and how they should shove a wand up their asses and spun on it.

  118. 118.

    ChristianPinko

    Morgan Guyton at Patheos had a good blog post where he said that the important day for white American evangelicals now is Good Friday — the day when Jesus supposedly paid for our sins with his blood. In this theology, Easter becomes (to use Guyton’s phrase) the confirmation e-mail that the payment went through. It’s actually caused me to rethink the idea of how Jesus saves us.

  119. 119.

    Brachiator

    @Amir Khalid:

    They’ve learned from Harry’s many mistakes along the way, like Harry himself had to. It sounds facile to say that Harry is their Jesus, but I think that it is arguably true.

    Would this make Neville Longbottom Saint Peter?

  123. 123.

    Jeffro

    @Shana: Here you go…but…it looks like they’re posting letters to the editor/op-eds online about two weeks after they are in the print version, so you won’t see the one I was referencing upthread.

    When you do see it online, it’ll be a letter to the editor written by a “C. W. Trauernicht” from McLean, entitled “Student Pawns In a Dangerous Game of Chess”. It makes references to kids being used by Mao Zedong and Adolf Hiter, as you might imagine. And goes looking for a “king and queen on the chessboard”

    Here’s the last paragraph – see if you can guess who the ‘king and queen’ are:

    “These nationwide student protests are community organizing on a grand scale. And who knows community organizing better than someone like Valerie Jarrett, longtime confidante to President Barack Obama. On March 26, Jarrett tweeted alongside her photo with David Hogg: “Great to meet David Hogg who helped organize #MarchForOurLives. The beginning of our marathon.”
    The beginning of whose marathon, Valerie?”

  125. 125.

    Amir Khalid

    @Brachiator:
    I don’t really know enough about the New Testament to answer that, but it seems at least partly applicable as a comparison.

  126. 126.

    Ladyraxterinok

    William Lindsey at his blog bilgrimage.blogspot.com incorporates Union Theological Seminary’ tweets stating that you can’t understand Easter if you do not see the similarity between the crucified body of Jesus and the bullet-riddled bodies of young black men. In each case, they were killed by govermental agencies wanting to remove a perceived threat and send a warning to other ‘trouble-makers’.

    This view perhaps makes tomorrow’s NBC live production of Jesus Christ Superstar (8-10pmET) with John Legend in the title role particularly intriging.

  127. 127.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Ladyraxterinok: I am going to say no. Per Christian thought: Jesus was called into being to be sacrificed and he went through great personal pain accepting this, but he did. Trayvon Martin went to a convenience store to get some candy and a drink. Then some racist killed him.

  131. 131.

    Original Lee

    Today has been a frustrating day for me. I’ve seen the Hogg-as-Hitler photo and the “Hitler banned guns to protect the children, too” articles appear on the extreme right wing of my FB page and gradually spread over to the little old ladies who go to church twice on Sundays. An aunt who actually lived in Germany under Hitler who remarked that Orange Spanky reminded her of Hitler got sandbagged by aggressive wingnut cousins. And then there’s a bunch of high school classmates who have spent the last THREE days complaining about what a rude entitled brat young Mr. Hogg is. I’m seriously considering unfriending almost everybody, because I’m having trouble dealing with folk who suddenly think it’s perfectly OK to Godwin every single discussion about gun control.

  132. 132.

    Ohio Mom

    @Omnes Omnibus: IANAA but it seems to me that all African Americans spend their lives grappling with being, for lack of a better word, terrorized, even as they know they are innocent, and even as they know that to allow themselves be consumed with hate and fear over this will only diminish their own lives.

    They live knowing they very well might be sacrificed. Okay, it won’t be for a noble reason, as Christianity teaches about Jesus’s death, but it will be a sacrifice on the altar of white racism.

    Isn’t that part of Christianity, to identify with Jesus? To try to live your life as well as he did, to use him as an example as you cope with your “crosses to bear”?

  133. 133.

    Mnemosyne

    @Original Lee:

    I was saying in one of the other threads (or maybe this one) that some adults are really pissed off that the Parkland kids are not sticking to their proper place in the hierarchy. It’s supposed to be Adults Over Kids, Men Over Women, Whites Over Everyone Else. And those darn kids just refuse to get with the program!

    Or, to put it even more simply: their (moral) authority is being questioned, and they’re pissed.

  135. 135.

    Citizen Alan

    @Schlemazel:
    I’m still waiting on a remake of Red Dawn in which plucky latte drinking liberals on the east and west coasts have to take back the country after it has been betrayed by gun humping rednecks in the flyover states who welcomed to our new Soviet overlords because they promised to put the blacks, the gays, and the uppity women back in their place.

  138. 138.

    Spaniel

    Years ago, someone on the conservative side of the blogosphere compared the need to stop weapons of mass destruction because of what was seen on the television show “24”. It has been so many years ago that I cannot remember or find on the internet that flub article (strikingly similar to this). This article written was written during the GWB administration.

  140. 140.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    NRO, those are the guys who think Fallout 3, a game were America was reduced to a radioactive wasteland filled with monsters and roving bands of cannibals, is the perfect Libertarian game because you can open carry and use drugs.

  141. 141.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Spaniel: There was the late and contemptible Scalia who was arguing for torture based on the show 24.

    All these serious REAL Americans (as in white, Republican male) I’ve meet have the common characteristic they think with a TV.

  142. 142.

    Matt

    I dunno why they’d even want to bring up Harry Potter, given that the most obviously conservative character (Umbrage) was literally colluding with the enemy and imposing conservative policies specifically to help him…

  143. 143.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Matt: Yes, but knowing the NRO they would argue Umbrage is really a liberal. While I doubt even that pack of Glideratians are so far gone as to argue Voldermort was some kind of Libertarian ubermesch creator oppressed by gimmie parasites like Poter (since for one thing Voldermort is bald, and that’s a key point in Libertarianism), Conservatism can only be failed and all that.

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