This week was quite a decade.
— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) April 14, 2018
ok it is time again to remember there is still good in the world
like this pup who makes sure his fren gets the last bun and then is kind of surprised it is the last bun but then remembers there is a whole nother bag of buns for them to share
there is still good in the world pic.twitter.com/3X6NafNaPG— darth™ (@darth) April 13, 2018
Consumer alert: If you’re a fan of Penzey’s Spices (useful even to those of us who aren’t exactly cooks), this is definitely the weekend to check your email — or their online site, to find the store nearest you.
Another positivity suggestion:
America – go to your parents and grandparents house. Set their computer homepage to "Google News" (even if they don't read, they'll see real headlines. On the TV, put a parental block on "Fox News" (they won't be able to figure out how to remove it.
— Risky #Basta Liberal (@RiskyLiberal) April 13, 2018
Cermet
Cohen is screwed and like no tomorrow. I will bet two to one that he used credit cards or debit cards in Prague to buy stuff – like a restaurant. They have real proof he was there – maybe an email where he states it. Either case, he is going down and he better realize that the state may add charges so the orange fart cloud will not save his ass.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Stable genius
Major Major Major Major
Accurate for every week going back about two years.
zhena gogolia
Thanks for the heads-up about the Penzey’s message today. I had deleted it, but I went back and read it, and it is magnificent.
Elizabelle
The pups at top. I have seen them noodle-slurping with their teenaged boy. Frequent sighting on Facebook.
(The ceramic at the top right; identical background.)
Mary G
We said 2016 was awful and 2017 had to be better. How naive we were. Darth is a treasure on twitter.
PPCLI
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Cohen’s Lawyer: This civil suit should be suppressed because there is a criminal investigation that will be prejudiced against my client if he is forced to testify.
Cohen: No I won’t be taking the fifth when I appear before the judge in the civil suit on Monday.
Legal genius
ThresherK
Ugh, another “What do my Fernie Froze mean this time?” question.
After Trump and Bolton, Wilmerites seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel in an effort to say “somethingsomethingsomething Syria” shows Hillary to be a warmonger. Did Hilz even make a speech about Syria this week? I’m not getting out of the boat. Is there an iota of real in this?
bluefish
The stupidity of these folks will be our salvation. One hopes.
debbie
@Cermet:
I just listened to Dershowitz insist that raiding Cohen’s office was wrong, but pardoning Scooter was right.
Elizabelle
@debbie: Why punish yourself like that!
If there were no cable news, would these types be standing on boxes in our parks, berating us? Or haranguing us on sidewalks?
WereBear
@Elizabelle: They certainly wouldn’t be running our government. Into the ground.
NotMax
Oy vey.
When’s the ceremony to have him pin a medal on himself?
Handy synecdoche
Nah, setting grandpa’s homepage to Google news won’t help. Google’s algorithm will know he is a wingnut and serve up hot helpings of brietbart to click on. Set it to the Guardian.
Chris
“Stay positive.”
I’m trying, but the universe makes it so damn hard sometimes.
OzarkHillbilly
@Mary G: I never said 2017 had to be better. I said it would be bitter.
OzarkHillbilly
@debbie: Thereby offering a good argument for shooting Dershowitz.
Immanentize
@debbie:
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, Dershowitz is insane. He went crazy after 9/11. Never ever listen to him. It is bad for your brain and your complexion will suffer. He also causes halitosis.
Gin & Tonic
@debbie:
There’s your big mistake.
Peale
@OzarkHillbilly: President Baud will pardon you. We’ll all agree that it’s the right thing to pardon assassins and let them go free.
NotMax
Story from out Amir’s way.
japa21
I was just coming to post something about the Penzey’s offer and his comments. Masterful as usual, although I think he may be too optimistic about the ability of Trump supporters to change.
p.a.
@NotMax: Sit him in a trainer and land on a carrier? Would need to lube the cockpit (at least) so he could fit.
BroD
Seems to me Trump & Stormy are a burlesque of Samson & Delilah: I keep hearing “He’s gonna tear that building down” playing in the background.
rikyrah
Good Morning,Everyone ???
Sab
@Elizabelle: No. They wouldn’t be doing it if they didn’t think there’s money to be made at it.
WereBear
@japa21: I am reminded of when the whole “hit the pillow” school of anger management was tested, and it turned out indulging our anger only made it grow.
Trump supporters. Hooked on a feeling.
Elizabelle
@OzarkHillbilly: Sorry to hear about the glass in your foot. Ouch! Be well.
debbie
@Elizabelle:
I question myself sometimes. Wish I wasn’t so silence adverse.
Yarrow
@debbie: @Immanentize: I think there’s kompromat on Dershowitz. I remember him just losing his mind on the Today Show several years ago when the flight log for Jeffrey Epstein’s plane was made public and he was somehow accused or possibly accused of something related to Epstein’s pedophilia charges. I really knew nothing about him at that time, but the way he was freaking out made it look like he was terrified something bad was going to come out.
debbie
@OzarkHillbilly: @Immanentize: @Gin & Tonic:
Not my fault, not my fault! I didn’t seek him out; he just appeared. But you’re all correct of course.
MelissaM
I was a huge Penzey’s fan for years because they had great products, great prices, quick shipping, and great recipe ideas. Then the 2016 election occurred and my love for them just expands. I’m sure they have lost customers, but their mission remains greater. And they have in all likelihood increased their customer base tenfold for every one they lost.
Love Penzey’s!
debbie
@Yarrow:
He did say something about having introduced legislation. Really, from your lofty, non-legislative perch? I had to laugh.
Elizabelle
Milos Forman has died, aged 86. WaPost link.
I loved his movies (have not seen them all). Really liked The People vs. Larry Flynt, which did not do well at the box office, but was a terrific film. Woody Harrelson, Edward Norton, Courtney Love.
Lapassionara
@debbie: I think Dershowitz needs to take a refresher course on the a-c privilege. It is very narrow, and in some states does not cover the attorney’s statements, only the client’s. Also does not cover business advice. Also, exceptions for activities that constitute crime or fraud.
OT, but is Alain ok?
japa21
@MelissaM: Apparently there is a whole Boycott Penzeys movement. Not working well as they have gained customers.
Aleta
Green fields + Irish cat shepherd overseeing his sheep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Q4i3DoAN0&frags=wn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FivbvMuiEWw
Aleta
@debbie: Professional wrong person
Another Scott
Thanks for the Penzy’s special offer pointer. I’ve been meaning to try spices from them. Just pushed me off the fence to order some!
Cheers,
Scott.
?BillinGlendaleCA
I finally managed to get a clear day on the coast and captured this.
Frankensteinbeck
@NotMax:
He’ll be crowing right up until it’s revealed what a total fuck-up he made of it and the praise ends. The details just aren’t sufficiently public yet.
Another Scott
@NotMax: I’m surprised that I haven’t been able to find a picture of Donnie crowning himself Emperor (ala Napoleon), but I did find this, so it’s definitely crossed people’s minds…
Cheers,
Scott.
Cermet
Amazing how much did come down even ignoring the tail wagging of the dog (hmmm, wonder if putin strongly suggested to a certain Syrian dictator that now was a good time for them to use chemical weapons? What an amazing coincidence that all Russians were warned ahead of time about when ameikan missiles would be heading to said country … .) I’d say things couldn’t get more interesting except it is only Saturday morning and we still have over 12 hours (or 36 for some) left – so, a lot of time for more shoes to drop
Barbara
@japa21: Boycotts don’t work well when you are in sync with your customers. The fact that Clinton won US counties representing more than 2/3 of the GDP is highly relevant to the likely impact of a boycott.
Barbara
@Lapassionara: It is not exactly narrow, but when the attorney and the supposed client both publicly announce that the attorney was acting on his own, it is going to be hard to walk that back in arguing that ACP exists.
NotMax
@Another Scott
Emperor? How about a god?
(Yeah, offered that link yesterday, but what the hey.)
Nicole
Oh my goodness, that doggie GIF! Going to send to my aunt and uncle; golden retrievers are their favorite.
I took our pooch out to the dog run in the nearby park yesterday- she’s terrified of other dogs, so most dog runs are no-go, but this one has a smaller, separate area, originally for smaller dogs, that is often not being used and so I’d take her in it to get some off-leash exercise and do training. We hadn’t been there in a long time, and much to my surprise, a sign was up, specifying the smaller run was now for dog-reactive and otherwise nervous dogs to have some solo off-leash time (thanks, park volunteers; you guys are awesome!). The pooch was having a lovely day fetching the ball, though I was feeling a little bummed that I couldn’t take her into the huge dog run where the other dogs were (it’s much, much bigger). And then a guy brought his dog into the dog run and the dog promptly picked fights with two other dogs in rapid succession and I thought, “Right. This is why she doesn’t go into dog runs.”
Aleta
@?BillinGlendaleCA: No words. Oh, OK… stellar! Thanks for that beauty.
Nicole
@Elizabelle: I liked The People Vs Larry Flynt, too. I remember NOW launched quite a campaign against it when Oscar season came up, and I really thought they’d missed the point of the movie, which was, to my mind, that the people who stand up for the things we all say we believe in are very often not likable heroes. As opposed to The English Patient, which NOW apparently had no problem with, and was to me MUCH more misogynistic. I totally am Elaine from Seinfeld where The English Patient is concerned.
Yarrow
@Frankensteinbeck: I’m wondering what it will take to get evangelicals to break with him. Clearly sleeping with pron stars isn’t enough. The even worse stories (young girls, human trafficking) haven’t really broken through yet. I have my doubts even that would be enough.
WereBear
Me too. Film version that is; the book is enchanting.
WaterGirl
@NotMax: Pretty sure his experience is a lot less fun than Tom Hanks had in that movie about being stuck at the airport for an exceedingly long time. Or maybe it wasn’t Tom Hanks?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Aleta: You’re welcome, it took 3 attempts(fog the first time, clouds the second).
schrodingers_cat
From yesterday’s thread:
Report from the grassroots, from small town New England in Western Mass.
I went my first Ds meeting, held in the local old school New England church that is 301 years old, it was built in 1717.
The venue had to be shifted from the fire and police station at the last minute because they got a lot more people than they were expecting. We have 8 candidates running for an open state legislature seat, 4 men and 4 women, one woman was a Latina, one of the candidates is a college student. They were thoughtful and smart and were collecting signatures to get on the ballot. I almost forgot about the Tangerine Tragedy in the WH.
Yarrow
@Nicole: I thought The English Patient was a beautiful film as far as its look. But The People vs Larry Flynt was a very good film with a great message. I loved Woody Harrelson in that role. And Courtney Love was surprisingly good.
PaulWartenberg
Michael Cohen can go to Prague but I can’t?!
Should I start a GoFundMe or something to raise money for a week’s trip to Prague just so I could do some anti-trump sh-t in response to Cohen’s follies?
schrodingers_cat
@Nicole: I fell asleep during that movie. I am also not a Ralph Fiennes fan. Also too, Constant Gardener, Constant Boredom.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@?BillinGlendaleCA: One more, fisheye lens this time.
geg6
@Nicole:
I hate that fucking movie and can’t believe, to this day, that it won an Oscar. I really liked The People v Larry Flint. It is vastly superior and has an important message. Flint and his story are the perfect imperfect messenger, IMHO.
MelissaM
@japa21: I did google “boycott Penzeys” and found a New Yorker article which informed me that The Spice House was the original (elder) Penzeys business, then Bill Jr. opened Penzey’s Spices, and now Bill Jr.’s sister Patty operates The Spice House with her husband. After Jr. went so political, TSH reached out to conservative bloggers, stating that TSH was a way to buy spices politics-free. Interesting to know the two companies are so closely connected, but ugh! Spice trade has been inherently “political.”
For myself, I’ll stick to the Love for All business.
Another Scott
@NotMax: :-) Thanks, I missed it earlier.
(You people talk too much. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Yarrow
@schrodingers_cat: I really like Kristen Scott Thomas as an actress, though.
eclare
@Aleta: Loved that, so peaceful.
Another Scott
@schrodingers_cat: Excellent. Thanks for the report!
Cheers,
Scott.
schrodingers_cat
@Yarrow: I don’t have a strong opinion about her. Most British actors who make it in Hollywood are pretty good.
schrodingers_cat
@MelissaM: Spice trade was the reason behind a lot of colonial escapades.
eclare
@Nicole: Come sit by me…totally agree. Juliette was the only good thing about The English Patient.
Frankensteinbeck
@Yarrow:
Evangelicals are never going to break with him. He reflects their values perfectly, save only the embarrassing detail that he’s bad at covering them up. He is driven by racism, selfishness, misogyny, and spite. He doesn’t give a flying fuck about facts, only about getting his way and being praised for his ignorance and assholery. Adultery? Pedophilia? Abuse of power at every level? Those are built into the evangelical culture. Moore wasn’t an accident.
japa21
@MelissaM: Isn’t reaching out to conservative bloggers itself a political act?
SFAW
@Immanentize:
You mean the “liberal Alan Dershowitz”? Saw him referred to in that fashion yesterday. Fucking morons.
Many years ago, Dershowitz and (I think) Harvey Silverglate were the go-to guys for ACLU-friendly commentary. But, as noted more times “than Carter has pills,” he hasn’t been that way for awhile. Christ, what an asshole.
Elizabelle
@geg6: The Academy gets the Best Picture wrong, again and again. Pretentious; think Mnemosyne thinks some are becoming “Lifetime Achievement Awards.” Not new though. Judy Holliday (Born Yesterday) beat Gloria Swanson (Sunset Boulevard) for Best Actress; which film had staying power?
That said, note that the message from People vs. Larry Flynt got through well, and stays with us. Milos Forman for the win.
schrodingers_cat
@eclare: And Navin Andrews.
Elizabelle
@eclare: I remember the scene when she was swinging around the walls of a museum(?), or a bombed out mansion? — anyway, the visuals in that movie were superb.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: Penzey’s has the best Vietnamese cinnamon, and their Penzey’s Pepper is the best black pepper I have ever had. If you cook with tarragon, I highly recommend their French Tarragon.
Jeffro
“Stay Positive “ = 2nd best Hold Steady album (only because “Boys and Girls in America” is such a classic).
I got the cover symbol as a tattoo back in 2010…
So I guess you could say I’m staying positive for life ?
Elizabelle
@schrodingers_cat: Yes. The Constant Gardener was dreary and a message movie. Gag.
I do like Ralph Fiennes, though. Wasn’t he the Nazi in Schindler’s List? And in Red Dragon too (that movie stands the test of time, IMHO)?
ETA: Rachel Weicz is such a beautiful actress, and she seems to choose some dreadfully earnest roles in message movies. But she’s memorable.
eclare
@Elizabelle: They were, but what sticks with me is the final scene from The People vs Larry Flynt. So haunting.
eclare
@Elizabelle: Great book, though.
Elizabelle
@schrodingers_cat: Yes. He was superb. Navin Andrews.
eclare
@schrodingers_cat: I don’t remember who he played…
WaterGirl
@geg6: I didn’t go to the English Patient because it looked boring, so I decided to buy the book instead. Never read it.
WaterGirl
I guessed that something bad had happened last night because the TV shows I had recorded were all missing the last 10 or 15 minutes.
I am about to read last night’s threads to find out how bad it was, but I think I will read the LGM post first: MADMAN ORDERS SENSELESS MILITARY ATTACK.
zhena gogolia
@Another Scott:
I’m going to have to put an addition on my kitchen to house my Penzey’s spices.
NotMax
@Elizabelle
That’s a mite unfair, as both performances (and both films) hold up well all this time later. Also because we never are apprised of what the raw vote for an Oscar is; it is not at all outside the realm of possibility that Ms Swanson received one vote less than Ms Holliday.
zhena gogolia
@Elizabelle:
The Firemen’s Ball. Just sayin’. And Valmont (can’t beat dancing Colin Firth).
zhena gogolia
@Elizabelle:
Fiennes is great in The End of the Affair.
WaterGirl
As long as we are going with happy thoughts this morning, here’s a short excerpt from The Washington Monthly this morning:
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: I had to do an addition to my spice rack, for sure. :-)
Frankensteinbeck
@Yarrow: and @Frankensteinbeck:
To continue that, this is not an observation of evangelical politics. I have lived among these people most of my life. They don’t know anything about their own religion. They know buzzwords and the attitudes they are told to believe, partly by their preacher, more by the bouncing around of their congregation’s attitudes. They read the bible every day, and it’s like that Far Side cartoon with what dogs her, ‘blah blah blah chosen of god blah blah blah men who lie with men should be stoned.’ They are clannish to an extent it’s difficult to imagine, often even rejecting other white evangelicals who don’t go to the same church. Fear, hatred, and contempt for blacks is woven into the bedrock of their attitudes. Fear, hatred, and contempt for everyone who isn’t exactly like them is waiting right on the surface.
Women and children are property, and the deeper you get the more literal that is. They believe that it is offensive and immoral in the extreme for anyone to tell them what they can’t do with their wives and children. Since daughters are suitable only to be married, every attempt is made to keep them ignorant of sex (even its existence, although they usually know they’ll fail), and you don’t have to get very deep into the culture before they disapprove of educating girls and want them married as early as possible.
The moral mood of the religion centers around self-righteousness. Not doing the right thing, but them being right and everyone else being wrong. They don’t give a damn about fetuses, but by yelling about abortion they can write off everyone who disagrees with them as baby killers, justify being sadistic shits to women in the process, and remind each other constantly what irresponsible rutting animals black women are. How much they mind a man committing adultery varies, but what is invariable is that they themselves have a free pass while it’s proof positive of anyone they don’t like’s failure. The misogyny is thick, and the women are if anything more misogynistic than the men. Women both have no sexual agency, and are to blame for all sexual misconduct.
Their way of life is under attack, respected less every day and has been under siege since desegregation by a federal government that disapproves of the horrible abuse they feel it’s their literally god-given right to inflict on anyone in their power. Already suspicious of science, this has driven them to a furious hatred of facts, of the whole idea that there is any kind of truth except what they want to believe. Living among them and not passing their incredibly superficial muster is Hell. I have been on both sides of it, as a white male who is naturally nonconformist. Trump doesn’t say the word Jesus enough, but they will give him a pass forever because he shares their beliefs perfectly.
trollhattan
@WaterGirl:
I seem to recall Seinfeld spending an entire episode slagging on “The English Patient” with Elaine yelling “Just die already!” at some point.
ETA the Penzeys site just pops up an offer for free stuff if I spend fifty bucks, so I’m not targeted for enlightenment today. I blame Google.
WaterGirl
@Frankensteinbeck: What you wrote leaves me feeling kind of sick, but only because you make a compelling case for all that being true. Ugh.
WaterGirl
@trollhattan:
I laughed out loud.
Roger Moore
@Yarrow:
Nothing. The evangelicals are showing what their true values are: greed and hatred of The Other. All that other stuff they profess to believe is window dressing.
Another Scott
@zhena gogolia: :-)
I don’t do much cooking these days, but I do like putting spices on pre-made salads and the like.
Speaking of spices, what do people do for wasabi? (Penzey’s is a mixture of horseradish and stuff with some wasabi.) I understand most of the stuff one can easily buy is really green-dyed horseradish, but my limited experience with it has been disappointing. I bought a jar of dried “wasabi” at a local “gourmet foods” store (Balducci’s) and it was fabulous when I first opened the tin. After that, it was meh – as if air exposure did something to the remainder.
Does one have to buy the raw root to have any hope of having the bite that one expects from wasabi? Has anyone tried RealWasabi?
Cheers,
Scott.
Big Jim Slade
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Very nice! My attempts at astrophotography have been pretty unsuccessful so far (for instance, I went to Joshua Tree on Black Friday a year ago and a half ago, but the moonless night sky was for some reason kind of underwhelming), so I appreciate a good shot!
EBT
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: which one? donnie or Kurt hentaichiwald?
debbie
@WaterGirl:
I liked both the book (which I read first) and the movie, but I suppose I’m stupid. I also liked the remake of End of the Affair far more than the original. Different strokes.
bemused
Ugh. This morning a conservative cousin emailed some supposed Winston Churchill quotes. A sampler of the worst:
Islam is more dangerous in a man than rabies in a dog.
You don’t make the poor richer by making the rich poorer.
If you’re not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative at forty, you have no brain.
Sigh. I guess she’s still conservative despite two years of trumpism.
Another Scott
@Roger Moore: “Evangelicals” are an arm of the Republican Party.
Repost: (an excerpt from Jill LePore’s article at the New Yorker (from 2011):
It’s all politics and tribalism and has nothing to do with Christianity of any form.
Cheers,
Scott.
Anotherlurker
Here is my latest way of coping, here in Bizarro World.
I have been re-reading the works of Poe, H.P. Lovecraft, Arthur Machen, Kafka, M.R. James and other masters of the horrific and the strange. Their twisted visions of human nature and the world are nothing, compared to the horrors perpetrated daily in trump world.
I find their works to be a great place to escape.
BTW, after re-reding his works, I’m convinced that M.R. James is the master of the ghost story. AFAIC, he is the best of the genre, that the English Language has produced.
Discuss.
danielx
I totally needed that Darth thread.
danielx
So glad for that Penzey’s link – I discovered there is a store within five miles of my house. Going today.
bemused
@Another Scott:
I immediately thought of the Paul Weyrich youtube “Goo Goo Government” where he said he doesn’t want everyone to vote because they, rightwingers, have never won with the majority of people voting.
zhena gogolia
@trollhattan:
“With the revelations of this week the time has come for us all to stop pretending that what is happening in America is in any way normal. Right now we are in a struggle for the Heart and Soul of our country. It is a struggle we can’t allow ourselves to lose.
America matters, not just to us but to the world. The forces both foreign and domestic who’ve worked to shape the Republican Party into what it is today knew what they were doing. As long as America is America there is hope in all the corners of the world. Shut off our light and hope fades, opening the door for corruption to take hold. This week the corruption of the current administration was made clear time and time again. If they go unchallenged and are allowed to declare themselves above the law, the hope that is America will surely fade. We can’t let that happen.
If last week you were still backing the administration, after all we’ve learned this week please-please-please give thought to stopping. Last week he was saying he is not a criminal. This week the argument shifted to it’s illegal for the FBI to catch him in his crimes. Innocent people don’t do what this administration is doing. If you go along with this you are lost. Please don’t be lost. Snap out of it. Too many people need you. If you give up your values and replace them with his it will be at least a decade before the young people in your life respect you again. It’s still not too late to change the course you’re on, but soon it will be. Act now. Be the hero!
At Penzeys, in our time speaking out we’ve learned through experience that good messages are shared. When a good message is combined with something of value for free it has even greater reach. And if you have a message that you wish would reach many-many people, combine it with something free of great value. Now seems more than ever to be a time to try and reach everybody.”
And so on.
schrodingers_cat
@eclare: He played Juliet Binoche’s squeeze. He plays a Sikh guy, who sweeps mines, dismantles bombs and such, IIRC.
manyakitty
Thanks for the Penzey’s poke! I’ve been meaning to order and now I did it. Gotta support the good guys!
Heidi Mom
Re some of the movies cited above: The Constant Gardener was one of my favorite LeCarre novels, and I liked the movie, which was pretty faithful to its source, and thought Rachel Weisz deserved her Oscar for Best Supporting Actress. (Also, she has good taste in husbands — Daniel Craig.) I had the impression that LeCarre “got Africa [specifically Kenya] right,” if such a comment makes any sense at all from a person whose knowledge of Africa comes from newspapers and a few novels and movies. Another novel of which I have the same impression is Acts of Faith by Philip Caputo, which assembles a vast cast of characters to show how very difficult it is to act on good intentions in northern Kenya and Sudan. As for Ralph Fiennes, he’s always awesome, even in what I believe was his first film appearance, a very small role in the first season of Prime Suspect. The End of the Affair is a beautiful adaptation of a beautiful Graham Greene novel. The last scene, with Fiennes and Stephen Rea, is one of the sweetest I’ve ever seen in a movie, in the non-sugary sense.
Schlemazel
@WaterGirl:
We have an entire spice cabinet and since discovering Penzy 5-6 years ago it is full of their stuff.
I want to do an ad for their cinnamons. If you get a chance to go to the store for them smell the different ones they have because each has its own characteristics. We love the Vietnamese cinnamon because it is sharp, bright and has that zing like a cinnamon candy does. The Ceylon cinnamon is deeper & darker with sort of a citrus backend (this is most like the cinnamon you get in the store). I prefer that for my curries because it has a ‘base note’. The China is sort of in between. Until Penzy I didn’t know there were different flavors.
Heidi Mom
Apologies for the ridiculous typefaces in the above — I shouldn’t even try!
schrodingers_cat
@Frankensteinbeck: So how did you turn out so different, then? How did you break the cycle.
Roger Moore
@Another Scott:
Evangelicals are Mammon’s church on Earth.
trollhattan
@zhena gogolia:
Well said, all of it. Thanks!
trollhattan
@Another Scott:
The only non-Japanese use for wasabi (the typical horseradish type) I know of is to zing up mashed potatoes, which are great done right. We have a couple Japanese restaurants that use the authentic stuff, grated fresh and pickled, and it’s an entirely different experience.
RedDirtGirl
@zhena gogolia: I went to the Penzey’s link and didn’t see any message other than the free soul box offer. What did it say?
Frankensteinbeck
@schrodingers_cat:
Well, partly I wasn’t one of them. I merely lived among them, raised Jewish by parents who converted from Southern Baptism when I was three. Sometimes they didn’t notice I was different. Sometimes they did. I got to see the ‘Southern Hospitality’ and ‘I’m going to kill you, faggot’ sides both up close and personal. (I am actually straight, but a man who didn’t fit their narrow, toxic concept of masculinity must be gay.) I was pretty weird by anyone’s standards from the moment I could display personality, though.
A moderate number of people escape, and when they do, they generally hate the religion in ways liberals from a mostly decent social background cannot imagine. It usually goes beyond passion to a frank acknowledgment that large portions of humanity run on hate.
Elizabelle
@Roger Moore:
Yup.
WereBear
@MelissaM: Puts a whole new shine on family Thanksgivings, no doubt :)
zhena gogolia
@RedDirtGirl:
My #103 has a big chunk of it. I don’t know why it’s hard to find on the website. But their e-mail is well worth subscribing to — unlike the Democrats, who kept sending me messages yesterday with the subject line “MUELLER FIRED!” I hate that kind of thing.
NotMax
@trollhattan
Have gotten into the habit of mixing in a pinch of the paste when I prepare tuna salad or when an occasion arises to use tartar sauce.
WaterGirl
@debbie: You, stupid? I think not. I just don’t have patience for slow-moving movies.
danielx
@Frankensteinbeck:
I have in-law family like that. Fortunately for all concerned my ability to keep my mouth shut is well developed, since the adjectives “sanctimonious” and “self-righteous” are those that come to mind most frequently.
ETA: it gets especially difficult because one of my sisters-in-law is gay, and a kind, generous and loving person. Some of the other in-laws, among them being those that she taught to play golf, etc, are firmly convinced she is going to hell. Very concerned about it, in fact. It has been a great effort, on occasion, NOT to say “your aunt/sister/cousin is a great person, maybe you ought to examine YOUR beliefs before worrying about her sexual orientation and fate under YOUR rules”.
bystander
@WaterGirl: America’s Test Kitchen named their cinnamon the best. I’ve been wanting to try it, but I didn’t know about the political implications.
The Constant Gardner was one of the most moving, insightful movies I’ve ever seen. LeCarre brings the ongoing tragedy of colonialism into sharp focus. English Patient is a real snore.
WaterGirl
@Schlemazel: I have gotten free cinnamon from Penzey;s from time to time, so I do have the ceylon, but I love the Vietnamese so much I have never tried the ceylon! I must remedy that soon.
I also have a free bottle of their classic cinnamon, haven’t tried that either. Bad WaterGirl!
Shell
May there always be an extra bag of buns!
Brachiator
@Elizabelle: RE Milos Forman. A wonderful body of work.
The Fireman’s Ball, made in his home country, is a brave and sly political satire. Something we need now.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest and Amadeus are things of unfathomable beauty.
I was recently looking at clips from his film version of the musical Hair on YouTube. Less successful overall than his best work, but some good acting and wonderful music of course.
I think that one of his greatest strengths was his ability to get good performances from his actors, even in his lesser films. Often, this is taken for granted.
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: You don’t have to spend $50 to get some stuff free, or cheap. They have $2 red pepper and $2 cajun, and shipping is free if you spend 19.99. They also send one or two free things with every order so you can try free stuff.
Shell
Soon to be a major motion picture starring Tom Hanks
Elizabelle
@zhena gogolia: Haven’t seen any of those movies. Thank you for the head’s up. (Did read the Graham Greene novel.)
catclub
@PaulWartenberg:
It may turn out that whatever Cohen did in prague has turned into highly anti-trump activities.
WaterGirl
@RedDirtGirl: It wasn’t in a block quote so it wasn’t obvious, but the 4 paragraphs of zhena gogolia’s comment at 103 was a quote from their email.
oops, i see that someone else got there first.
WaterGirl
@bystander:
That’ news to me, but I’m not surprised.
NotMax
@Frankensteinbeck
Ever see Marjoe? (excerpts)
Won the Oscar for best documentary.
A bit more.
Elizabelle
@Brachiator: Haven’t seen a lot of them, but it would seem that Milos Forman never made a bad movie. Some were more appreciated than others.
He made that movie about Andy Kaufman (didn’t see that one either), and named his (second!) set of twin sons James and Andrew (for Kaufman and Carey).
WereBear
Yes, exactly. Likewise, I was born elsewhere… arrived in their culture in third grade, and so, forever an Other.
Elizabelle
@WaterGirl: Weren’t you on the injured reserves list? What is up with that; how are you doing? (And the pups?)
WereBear
@Elizabelle: It was incredible. I loved it.
RedDirtGirl
@zhena gogolia: Thanks, ZG!
NotMax
Anatomy of a Murder coming up at top of the hour on TCM. In the top 5 of the personal list of best Jimmy Stewart performances.
And Duke Ellngton’s music, too.
WaterGirl
@catclub:
I’m not sure what you mean by that.
Washburn
@schrodingers_cat:
Check your spice privilege!
zhena gogolia
@Elizabelle:
Try Loves of a Blonde too! Forman’s films were a huge part of the “Prague Spring.” (long before M. Cohen)
Matt McIrvin
@Frankensteinbeck: My parents actually met at an American Baptist college in South Dakota, and my father was studying to be a minister. He finally decided he couldn’t do it because he couldn’t parrot the lines they were telling him he had to tell his congregation–dancing is sinful, this or that is sinful. The American Baptists aren’t as bad as the Southern Baptists but they were still pretty culturally conservative.
They were pretty lapsed by the time I was old enough to remember, and I pretty much grew up an atheist in a Northern Virginia neighborhood full of Southern Baptists and some conservative Catholics. I think my parents ended up with a more negative attitude toward organized religion than I have, though they never completely stopped having some kind of informal spirituality. I sometimes wonder if I’d have been as independent a thinker as they were, without the family background–my impulses are more go-along-to-get-along. I sometimes wondered if I was being deprived of something because people kept telling me that children needed to have religious training before the age of reason.
zhena gogolia
@NotMax:
Great film, incredible score.
WaterGirl
@Elizabelle: Yep, thanks for asking. I broke my ankle 4 weeks ago – I am in a non-weight-bearing cast so everything is a challenge. Saw the orthopedist earlier this week for another x-ray, and she is hopeful that the x-ray on 4/25 (at the 6-week mark) will show that I can move from the cast to an ankle brace. She said I am healing really well, which is great news.
Henry had his 6-week post-op x-ray and vet exam – the day before my 4-week visit – and he got rave reviews on his healing, too. The water treadmill therapy really helped him a lot. He still has to be crated, but he is supposed to start two 15-minute walks a day, and then increase that each week. Still haven’t figured out how to get that done, because it sure can’t be me who takes him!
So we are both healing faster than expected, yay for that!
I will find out this week how much of the $3,5000 expense Henry’s pet insurance will cover. And I finished getting my tax stuff ready for my tax guy yesterday, so today is better than yesterday!
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
Always sort of strange whenever I see Ben Gazzara in a movie. He’s the spitting image of my biological father.
raven
@Matt McIrvin: My ex’s dad was an American Baptist minister and liberal as cold be. I always thought they were almost Unitarians.
rikyrah
@WaterGirl:
One of the MSNBC shows pointed out that Cohen is the one who knows the shady moves of the kids too.
Elizabelle
@WaterGirl: Glad to hear you and Henry are on the mend. Wish you could deduct pet medical expenses!
Schlemazel
@RedDirtGirl:
It is right on the left of the home page. “American Heart and Soul Box”
https://www.penzeys.com/online-catalog/penzeys-american-heart-and-soul-box/c-24/p-3121/pd-gb
rikyrah
@Roger Moore:
I want them to go down with him
Brachiator
@zhena gogolia: I love this tribute to Forman from filmmaker Edgar Wright.
Great point to note that Forman was part of the “Prague Spring.” His satirical films were not angry or confrontational, but no less rebellious in their humor and humanity.
Schlemazel
@WaterGirl:
The Heart and soul box is free without a purchase!
WereBear
@NotMax: That is such a fun movie. You know, besides the murder :)
rikyrah
@WaterGirl:
Glad to hear the good news about you both
Schlemazel
@WaterGirl:
I missed that, sorry to hear about it. Best wishes for your mend
polyorchnid octopunch
@Roger Moore: What, no love for Moloch?
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: Ooh, that makes me happy, I hadn’t heart that!
WaterGirl
@Schlemazel: That’s an amazing deal.
I just placed an order that cost me $55 with free shipping, and I am getting $55 worth of free stuff. If you have the money, it’s definitely worth it.
zhena gogolia
@NotMax:
Ooh, he was cute.
zhena gogolia
@Brachiator:
That is nice — I love Edgar Wright too!
WaterGirl
@Elizabelle: @rikyrah: @Schlemazel: Thank you!
11 days of the cast left (hopefully) but who’s counting?
Brachiator
@Another Scott:
I don’t think the issue of abortion has divided the Democratic Party, but it has turned into a hard line litmus test for conservatives and has warped their ability to see clearly on other issues.
And the right lost on other issues, especially gay marriage, etc, which has only made them angrier, and has helped fuel their Trump mania and delusion that they are fighting to save the nation from godlessness.
Emma
@Anotherlurker: M.R. James wrote exquisite horror stories. Maybe we should ask his ghost to take over the TrumpWorld script.
Heidi Mom
@bystander: Re colonialism: In both The Constant Gardener and the recent A United Kingdom, while the colonialists would surely have said that their rule would ultimately benefit the Africans, they were horrified that a white woman would choose to give birth in an “African” hospital. Almost as if there was a difference in quality, or something.
Matt McIrvin
@raven: The American Baptists have the traditional loose structure of the Baptist church with no rigid organizational hierarchy, substantially independent congregations and an emphasis on “Priesthood of Every Believer”, so it could be that what you get varies considerably from church to church. I wouldn’t be surprised if they vary from Bible-bangers to something on par with the UCC. But in South Dakota in the early 1960s they were relatively hardcore.
Anotherlurker
@Emma: That is a great idea, Emma!
Brachiator
@Matt McIrvin:
Hmm. I would say that early religious training interferes with a child’s ability to reason.
Interesting stuff about your parents. I imagine that it takes quite a bit of character to have originally intended to study for the ministry and to reconsider everything related to that path.
Schlemazel
@WaterGirl:
We were going to make a run to their shop today but mom nature decided to dump a foot of ice & snow on us so I just ordered $25 of stuff, got the $35 box and shipping for free. Spices are expensive and any time I can get a deal for the good stuff I am all on board.
Matt McIrvin
@Brachiator: Being anti-abortion helped bring culturally conservative Catholics over to the Republicans. That was the primary aim of it. One of the power centers of the Democratic Party used to be urban Catholics descended from Irish and Italian immigrants, etc., and pulling as many of them as possible over to the Republicans through cultural appeals and racial animus was the Northern Strategy that went hand in hand with the Southern Strategy. It worked to some degree.
Gelfling 545
Apparently positive can be at odds with social justice. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/self-help-gurus-like-tony-robbins-have-often-stood-in-the-way-of-social-change/2018/04/13/15340974-3e70-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?utm_term=.bc31d379cdf4
Schlemazel
@Brachiator:
Back in the 80s abortion helped break the Democratic Party. I remember district caucuses the anti-choice crowd would all sit together & wait for their floor manager to tell them how to vote on every item. EVERY. ITEM. We couldn’t even finish the vote to break for lunch until he had told them how to vote on it. They tried to drag the whole process into the mud so that other people would go home & they would control move votes. It didn’t work & they stopped coming. This was a large loss in heavily Catholic Minnesota
@Matt McIrvin: Exactly that!
germy
Matt McIrvin
@Brachiator: They actually very briefly tried to put me in a Baptist Sunday school when I was about 3, when we lived in Ohio. I don’t remember it at all, for some reason (though I do remember a bunch of stuff from around that time). They tell me that I disrupted the class by asking embarrassing theological questions and they pretty quickly figured out it wasn’t working.
Schlemazel
@Matt McIrvin:
Those prairie branches all were like that. I was raised in the Methodist church and had aunts that would not play cards or go to the movies because those were the rules. Damn rock-ribbed sullen Scandinavians making sure everyone was as miserable as they were. The other half of the family were the joyful funny Scandinavians who loved to joke & pull pranks.
germy
From the photo, it looks like four people showed up.
Matt McIrvin
@Schlemazel: Catholics used to be heavily, heavily Democratic; now they’re divided just like the US population at large. I suppose an increasing Hispanic population could change that.
germy
The lawyers need lawyers.
Nicole
Man, cool thread and I missed a ton of it because I took the dog back out to the solo dog run. Where I caught her sneaking kisses to another (polite) dog who came up to say hello through the fence. ;)
I will say that I do value The English Patient for being the inspiration for the very funny moment between Billy Crystal and David Letterman at the 1997 Oscars. Because I can’t find it online anywhere, for those who don’t remember, Crystal did a bit where he was inside each of the Best Picture nominees and it ended with David Letterman chasing after him in a crashing plane, yelling, “BILLY! INTRODUCE UMA TO OPRAH! UMA TO OPRAH!” I love a joke that takes two years to get to the punchline.
WaterGirl
@Schlemazel: jealous that you have a store nearby. I have to go all the way to Chicago to find a Penney’s.
WaterGirl
@WaterGirl: damn autocorrect! I am on my phone so edit doesn’t work.
Brachiator
@Matt McIrvin:
Yeah, that’s the political history. But the contemporary result is that abortion is now a wall that prevents a hard core of voters from considering voting for Democrats. And the GOP has convinced some voters that an anti-abortion stance is synonymous with being a true American.
MomSense
@Schlemazel:
“Rock ribbed sullen Scandinavians” AKA God’s frozen chosen.
Calouste
@bemused: Churchill was a conservative at 20 and a liberal at 40. I doubt he thought of himself as having no heart and no brain.
Layer8Problem
@Anotherlurker: @Emma: Something for me to delurk to! I have enjoyed M. R. James’ work for years and I wish there was another writer as good. The first one I read as an early teenager was “The Ash-tree” in an Alfred Hitchcock collection and it freaked me out for a few nights afterward.
MomSense
@WaterGirl:
So happy you are both healing well.
Schlemazel
@MomSense:
As we used to say about the girls from St. Bernards, “Many are cold, frew are frozen”
Immanentize
@MomSense:
I understood from my wife that includes ALL Lutherans.
Emma
@Anotherlurker: Have you ever heard the BBC4 adaptations of his stories? They are wonderful!
Another Scott
@Brachiator: Dunno. I think LePore makes a strong case in her article, and it agrees with my recollection.
I’m sure it’s no coincidence that all of the Justices put on the court by the GOP since Reagan have been Catholic (or raised Catholic in Gorsuch’s case). Abortion has been a huge factor in American politics for a decades, and the architects of the its ascent made it clear it was intended to divide Democrats (and it did), while it united Republicans by around 1980.
Cheers,
Scott.
Brachiator
@Anotherlurker:
I don’t know this author, but now am curious. Thanks for your recommendation.
Mandalay
@Calouste:
Churchill had just joined the army when he was 20. You may or may not be right that he was also a conservative. I suspect there’s little evidence either way.
Calouste
@Cermet: The FBI took all Cohen’s electronics in the raid. They probably found one that connected to a network while in Prague. Alternatively, any email send, any website logged into, would reveal location info, unless you take some really diligent measures. Measures that even the highly trained GRU officers behind Guccifer 2.0 fucked up one time, so what do you expect from a graduate from the worst law school in the country?
R-Jud
@Anotherlurker: 100% agree about MR James. However, for a straight up haunted-house novel, Shirley Jackson’s The Haunting of Hill House all the way.
zhena gogolia
@Anotherlurker: @Brachiator:
Wow, yes, he looks very interesting. I was mixing him up with W. W. Jacobs of “The Monkey’s Paw” (also good). I’ll have to check him out.
Booger
@RedDirtGirl: Go to their Facebook page. It’s there.
Mnemosyne
@Brachiator:
Night of the Demon (aka Curse of the Demon), one of my all-time favorite spooky movies, is based on James’ “Casting the Runes.”
I’m also a fan of A.M. Burrage, though it’s impossible to find an unexpurgated version of his short story “Smee” online, because someone decided it should be suitable for children as long as they removed all of the alcohol, smoking, and flirtation between consenting adults. ?
Ruckus
@Immanentize:
And here I thought he is halitosis
efgoldman
@Elizabelle: We got a freebie invitation to the benefit premiere of Amadeus in Boston. We sat a few seats down the row from Forman (taking notes) and Gwen Verdon
Matt McIrvin
@Brachiator: Basically the process of carving those people off from the Democrats has long since reached its endpoint, and they’re part of the Republican base now, so opposition to abortion has become a Republican retention issue rather than a divide-and-conquer attack against the Democrats.
But you still get people arguing that the Dems can or should get them back by somehow moderating on abortion. The thing is, no moderation is going to cut ice with them; they’re single-issue extremists who insist on personhood from conception and often want to ban the Pill, and going that extreme would lose the Dems a large part of their own current base.
Elizabelle
@efgoldman: way cool
Gelfling 545
@WaterGirl: I don’t cook with tarragon because most of what you can get is crap & it doesn’t seem to like my garden. I’ll try theirs.
Brachiator
@Another Scott:
I don’t necessarily disagree about the original intent. The consequence has been to make the Republican Party more rigid and hypocritical. And you have the crazy result of Republicans backing a twisted fruit cake like Roy Moore in the name of family values.
Also, I guess my view is biased from living in California. The only people I know who are hung up over abortion are Republicans.
cain
@zhena gogolia:
I went and got the free gift box, but then bought more because a) I felt obgliated b) they are liberal as fuck, and I know we share the same values 3) I love cooking and spices.
Matt McIrvin
@Brachiator: I’ve known a few people who were consistent Democratic voters and liberal-to-lefty in every way except for being anti-abortion, because they were super-Catholic. It does happen. But they’re not single-issue voters; they’ve made the calculation that it’s not worth abandoning all their other values.
Mnemosyne
@Matt McIrvin:
These are usually the same people who sneer about “identity politics” and think Democrats should downplay their commitment to civil rights, because Democrats insisting that non-white people should have the same rights as white people is so divisive!
Roger Moore
@polyorchnid octopunch:
The Church of Moloch is the NRA. There’s obviously a lot of membership overlap.
Ruckus
@Yarrow:
Evangelicals won’t break from drumpf. They are 100% bigots, maybe just not in the exact direction as the klan but even there I’d bet there is more than just an occasional simpatico. Evangelicals are bigoted against anyone who doesn’t hold their “biblical” proclivities. They are the in group and you aren’t. And of course if you aren’t in their exact group, if you are in a different evangelical group, you are kissing cousins. They are also blind followers of their leaders, who are all insane, grifters or both. Think the Huckabee family. Multiply by way too many.
stinger
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Wow.
Mr Stagger Lee
Rest in Peace Art Bell Paranormal performance art, things that go bump in the night. Pre X-files stuff.
bemused
@Calouste:
Yeah, a lot of those “quotes” are not from him or his real comments from 20’s, 30’s, 40’s have been altered such as comparing socialism practiced in countries of that era to today but that’s how conservatives roll.
WereBear
@Mnemosyne: It is a fine movie and we recently added it to our DVD collection.
bemused
I’ve been intending to order from Penzey’s for awhile but procrastinated. Thanks to all here for the nudge to get on it. No Penzey’s anywhere near so ordered online. I did have a question so called but spent some time waiting, evidently very busy. While waiting listening to music, an oldie from 40’s-50’s song caught my attention with the line “We said goodbye with a highball”.
I am definitely going to order from Penzey’s to gift friends and family, particularly to a couple of republicans.
Origuy
With all of the movies and TV shows being remade, I wish someone would remake Elmer Gantry. With a big name leading man (George Clooney, say) in the title role, it could be a window into the evangelical world.
J R in WV
@Frankensteinbeck:
Agree totally. There is a reason that the vast majority of child sexual abuse occurs between a child and either relatives or close family friends; it is because of the patriarchy and the odd and perverted beliefs of those patriarchs. Stranger abuse of children is very rare.
bemused
@Gelfling 545:
I ignore most self-help gurus but that story caught my attention. The video of him, big 6’7″ guy, pushing back (one of his techniques) against a petite woman who told him he misunderstood MeToo movement was horrifying, imo.
bemused
@Matt McIrvin:
You three year old rabble rouser! I love it.
Stephanie Luke
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Very nice!
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
Which sounds like more or less what they wanted. They want blind followers who are willing to overlook their leaders’ transgressions, since that’s what every authoritarian leader wants.
J R in WV
@bemused:
I have two conservative cousins. Love them both, but really..? One is chronically ill, Lupus, BiPolar, not well treated.
Other was working on a big dam construction project when a rock fell 200 odd feet and hit him in the back of his head, below his hardhat. He recovered, but was very different in personality, became “born-again” went to law school, worked in prisons and jails the rest of his working life, now retired, but permanent total disability maybe 20 years ago. Reagan volunteer! Was cheerful outdoors guy before the accident.
woodrowfan
@Immanentize: and acne, diarrhea, and nose bleed
Ruckus
@Matt McIrvin:
The reason they told you that children needed religious training was that they had been told that as a child. And they got that from the church they attended because that’s how the church got people to attend and put money in the collection plate. It’s been going on for generations. People need to understand respect and a lot of churches don’t teach that outside their walls. People need to understand that we are all in this life thing together and a lot of churches don’t teach that outside their walls. Whatever you do or don’t think about the various gods that people have made up, it’s the rules of civilizations that transcend the bounds of any religion that are supposed to keep us from murdering/attacking/robing each other. It’s the artificial walls that we as humans put up that cause the problems. And a lot of religions build those artificial walls for what they perceive as their own survival. If the ideals were actually that we could all live together despite our differing beliefs then those walls wouldn’t be needed.
Cermet
@danielx: You should point out that nowhere in that crazy word salad called the bible is female homosexuality called a sin.
Schlemazel
@Mr Stagger Lee:
When I fractured my pelvis I had a lot of trouble sleeping & would sometimes listen to him in the middle of the night. I always wondered about the people crazy enough to believe his BS.
Anotherlurker
@R-Jud: Correct on Shirley Jackson’s “The Haunting” . If I recall, the original 1950s’ film version was also a masterpiece.
Anotherlurker
@Brachiator: There are so many good ghost/horror authors out there. Lots of good reading!
I’m going to try out some Algernon Blackwood and re-read one of my favorites, Ambrose Bierce.
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
Whose counting?
Anyone who has ever worn a cast. I’ve had wrist/hand casts on both hands, very, very thankfully not at the same time. I know someone who did though and he said you find out who your true friends are very quickly, like when you have to use the restroom.
Eleven days? Piece of cake. That’s your reward in 12 days for getting through this. Just be careful, learning to walk properly again can be a challenge, especially carrying a piece of cake. Good luck with all the healing.
WaterGirl
@Gelfling 545: Is there tarragon smells heavenly – the French tarragon, I think they have two kinds. I’ve never had fresh so I guess I don’t know how it would compare . Let me know what you think when you get it ?
MomSense: thank you!
WaterGirl
@WaterGirl: wrong there but it won’t let me edit.
WaterGirl
@bemused: for Christmas after trump was elected, I sent Penney spices and only penzey spices to every single person in my family who voted for him, voted third-party or stayed home. Not my usual gift, but fuck then was how I felt about it. And at least my money went to a good place!
Citizen Alan
@Yarrow:
The evangelicals would only turn on shitgibbon if he did anything pro-immigrant or Pro civil rights or which expanded or protected abortion rights in any way. As an institution, you must always remember that Evangelical Christianity was created from the start as the religious wing of white patriarchal supremacy. Only things which are detrimental to white men are unforgivable sins in their eyes. Everything else is negotiable.
Ruckus
@Gelfling 545:
People like tony are grifters/snake oil salesmen/conmen/assholes. If everyone could help themselves they wouldn’t need tony at all. If everyone could help themselves and therefore recognize bullshit in a suit they wouldn’t listen to tony at all. Primarily they don’t need tony. Which of course means that tony would be out of a very well paying gig ripping them off for their hard earned money. And tony has no idea how to make money the hard earned way, he’s a grifter.
Comrade
I’m going to Penzey’s. right here where they are located… Wauwatosa, WI!
Elizabelle
@Anotherlurker: “The Haunting,” from 1963. Julie Harris.
Director was Robert Wise, who later directed “The Sound of Music.” Incredibly talented guy.
Frankensteinbeck
@J R in WV:
I would like to make an addendum to that, although not actually a correction. Women are well represented in performing sexual abuse on minors. That’s a distinction I want to make to prevent misinterpretations of gender causes in abuse. I 100% agree that the social system that is making children vulnerable to within-family abuse is specifically patriarchal.
bemused
@J R in WV:
My older cousin and husband have lived for decades in central MN conservative, farming area and I believe some evangelical churches so my guess is conservatism rubbed off on her. I never imagined she was as conservative as she is until the Bush era and I was stunned. I assumed she was liberal because we are both decendents of nordic immigrant grandparents. I know a few very conservative nordic americans but most in my area tend to be liberals.
zhena gogolia
@cain:
I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. I have a goulash that I make that’s basically beef and paprika, and when I started using their paprika rather than what I got in Stop and Shop we suddenly had a craving for this dish about once a month instead of once a year.
bemused
@WaterGirl:
Lol, perfect and the money is well spent for their activism. I just wish I had thought of doing this last Christmas.
Citizen Alan
@danielx:
I can’t do that anymore. I just can’t. I have already told my mother and my sister that when the family gets together next month for Mother’s Day, I won’t be the one to start anything, but if my sister’s idiot Trump Trash brother in law mouths off to me about politics, I’m going to dog cuss him and I don’t care how much it offends my sister’s Republican in-laws.
WaterGirl
@Schlemazel: “when I fractured my pelvis…”
I am officially going to try to put my broken ankle in perspective.
WaterGirl
@Ruckus: thanks, ruckus. Never broken anything before or had to do rehab before so I really have no idea what to expect . Sounds like it might be harder than I thought!
I just let Henry out on the little ramp to a small pen that I had put in for him after I got hurt two weeks after his ACL surgery. His least got stuck on one of the little metal pieces halfway down but at least he was able to get back into the porch when he was done. Still can’t run free though after the surgery so I had to pick cannot pick him up and carry him while I was on my little knee scooter.
Both of us at once makes life interesting!
JMG
I’ve lived in the Acela Corridor my whole life and in my experience, abortion wasn’t the issue that drove Irish and Italian Catholics away from the Democratic Party. It was race.
WaterGirl
@WaterGirl: OK this time I tried edit, and it would let me edit, and even told me it had saved my edits but it didn’t really, so please just forget all my mistakes and typos while I am using the phone.
Magda in Black
@Ruckus:
Thank you.
Kathleen
@Schlemazel: St. Bernard’s in St. Paul? My best friend from grade school (Blessed Sacrament) went there. I went to St. Joseph’s Academy.
Brachiator
So, talk radio host Art Bell died, supposedly on Friday the 13th. Spooky. I would sometimes listen to his show when I worked late at night, or had insomnia. One thing I learned was that many of his guests and callers were deeply emotionally committed to the bizarre theories they espoused or believed, and were immune to anything that tried to debunk them.
The odd thing is that Bell and the other hosts would devote hours of time to real scientists as well. Unfortunately, this tended to create a false equivalence between the real deal and nonsense.
Most of these nutburgers are apolitical or weirdly political, but I recall that these shows can be a canary in the coal mine. I remember how agitated a chunk of callers were when Obama was elected, and how swiftly their racial anxiety became fixed on birtherism.
cwmoss
@Elizabelle: I prefer Navin Johnson.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Big Jim Slade: The Milky Way has a season, roughly April through September; that’s when the galactic center is visible in the northern hemisphere.
J R in WV
@Matt McIrvin:
They want to completely indoctrinate all children before they are mature enough to see and understand the hateful fiction they are being indoctrinated with. I’ve been reading random bits of the “Old Testament” lately, mostly it’s hate filled genocidal Lord Almighty… I had almost forgotten how bad it was since the last time I got into it.
If you don’t believe in their G-D, it’s scarier than Lovecraft!
My parents were nominal Presbyterian until I was 8 or so, when they and some friends founded a Unitarian Fellowship, which is a group of Unitarians who can’t afford a full time minister, so they took turns reading sermons by well known U-U ministers. Then coffee and cookies, which I enjoyed.
Went once to a Baptist service as a Cub Scout, the den mother was a member of the church. I didn’t understand much of it, and didn’t like any of it. Never went back, which probably means I was damned at that moment, having been exposed to the “truth” without accepting it. Good!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@stinger:
@Stephanie Luke: Thanks.
Anotherlurker
@Emma: Thanks Emma, I’ll check out the BBC adaptations of his stories.
J R in WV
@Frankensteinbeck:
I didn’t know that, I knew it happened but not at a level you could call well represented. I’m not surprised, though. Thanks for the information! Pretty sad facts, though…
Brachiator
@J R in WV:
People with problems will victimize those who are smaller, weaker, more vulnerable than they are. Men will abuse women and children. Women will abuse children. Teens will abuse younger children.
Some years ago, I learned that a woman friend and her sister had been abused by an older female babysitter when they were younger.