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NHL Open Thread

by John Cole|  April 29, 20183:34 pm| 32 Comments

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Pens playing the Caps.

Dogs are out in the yard. No pictures because Lily was pooping and a girl has to retain her dignity, yo.

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  1. 1.

    Jeffraham Prestonian

    April 29, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    GO PREDS!

  2. 2.

    JPL

    April 29, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    Go Lily!

  3. 3.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    April 29, 2018 at 4:02 pm

    How does that happen the Las Vegas Golden Knights, first year in the league, and can run the table to win the Cup. Gotta love the Elvis cheering section.

  4. 4.

    Mart

    April 29, 2018 at 4:05 pm

    I got a question. If there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia; why did the GOP convention platform hate on NATO and be OK with Russia in Ukraine?

    Go Pens.

  5. 5.

    efgoldman

    April 29, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    In a just athletic world, an earthquake would cause the ice to split open, Last Crusade style, and swallow both the Penguins and Capitals down to the bowels of the earth.

  6. 6.

    Stan

    April 29, 2018 at 4:34 pm

    Go Pens !!!!!!!

  7. 7.

    efgoldman

    April 29, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    How does that happen the Las Vegas Golden Knights, first year in the league, and can run the table

    The NHL has a hard salary cap that makes it difficult for teams to re-sign players, sometimes even their best ones.
    Instead of doing the usual, and exposing marginal players and chaff to expansion, many teams dangled higher paid good players, figuring Vegas wouldn’t take on the contracts. They figured wrong, and McPhee (Vegas GM) drafted very well.

  8. 8.

    Yarrow

    April 29, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    Sounds like Lily is still doing well. Would love another picture later today. Does she have any Pens attire?

    @Mart: There is collusion, or more accurately conspiracy, and Republicans are traitors.

  9. 9.

    efgoldman

    April 29, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    Cue raven “nobody gives a shit [about hockey]” in 3… 2… 1…

  10. 10.

    smintheus

    April 29, 2018 at 4:48 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee: Vegas was given for free their pick of 30 established veterans. They don’t have to develop anyone; they don’t have to depend on rookies to fill out their cap-limited roster; they don’t have to guess about what they’ll be getting from a player; and they didn’t have to take any bottom line or depth players in the bargain.

    On top of that, because it’s new Vegas also had the chance to take for free off of waivers any and all players competing to break into the NHL who were sent down to the minors at the end of pre-season (including established vets), and even bundle them to make trades for a better player.

    Basically, the NHL let Vegas raid everybody else’s cookie jar repeatedly. What I don’t understand is why people are surprised that Vegas could field a good team right away. What else could have happened in that situation?

  11. 11.

    efgoldman

    April 29, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    @smintheus:

    What else could have happened in that situation?

    Historically, expansion teams are somewhere between hideous and awful. Most people expected the usual, without paying attention to who the Knights actually had on their roster

    ETA: Starting with a multiple cup-winning (if very expensive) goalie.

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    smintheus

    April 29, 2018 at 4:53 pm

    @efgoldman: Teams weren’t able to protect all their good players. Very few teams were not forced to leave a few real steals on the table.

    The rules this year are not analogous to the situation in the past. This expansion was created to be a big time raid, maybe partly because the League was putting a team in a place that had zero claim to be a hockey town. The NHL realized that if it did not start winning very fast, it was likely to be another boondoggle sun-belt expansion.

  13. 13.

    OldDave

    April 29, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    I’m very happy for the VGK – in part because it’s either that or weep in despair. Due to some extremely boneheaded decisions by “my” team, who gifted them two-thirds of their first line and a coach who should take the Jake Adams this year.

  14. 14.

    efgoldman

    April 29, 2018 at 4:58 pm

    @smintheus:

    Very few teams were not forced to leave a few real steals on the table.

    Right, but historically back to the first expansion in 1966-67 it hasn’t been the case. Mostly they exposed garbage in each expansion draft.

    If the zebras don’t start calling obvious penalties, the third period will be total chaos and someone is going to get hurt, badly.

  15. 15.

    HeleninEire

    April 29, 2018 at 5:00 pm

    Poop Lily, Poop.

  16. 16.

    smintheus

    April 29, 2018 at 5:08 pm

    @efgoldman: Did you watch the Bruins game yesterday? The officiating was bewildering. A bunch of ridiculously soft calls, along with a bunch of blatant infractions that were ignored. The better team prevailed despite the officials best efforts to screw it up.

  17. 17.

    raven

    April 29, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    fuck lbj

  18. 18.

    smintheus

    April 29, 2018 at 5:37 pm

    That’s an insanely bad no-goal call.

  19. 19.

    efgoldman

    April 29, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    @smintheus:

    The officiating was bewildering

    Of the four major sports hockey is the toughest to officiate (the NBA isn’t as tough as they say) because of the speed and size of the rink. Adding a second referee, like they did a couple of years ago, helped. OTOH, very few kids want to grow up to be an NHL official.
    As an alumnus of Boston U, I’m enjoying how many area kids are already prominent in these playoffs.

  20. 20.

    efgoldman

    April 29, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    @raven:

    fuck lbj

    I’m pretty sure he never laced up skates.

  21. 21.

    Duane

    April 29, 2018 at 5:53 pm

    @raven: How do you feel about the NHL? Efg wants to know.

  22. 22.

    efgoldman

    April 29, 2018 at 5:58 pm

    @Duane:

    Efg wants to know.

    I know!
    I’m waiting for Georgia to fire Kirby.

  23. 23.

    Duane

    April 29, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    @efgoldman: Yeah, Kirby needs to go. Georgia’s a 500 club next year with him. (Goodbye. Gotta run!)

  24. 24.

    raven

    April 29, 2018 at 6:17 pm

    sheeeeeet

  25. 25.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    April 29, 2018 at 6:21 pm

    @smintheus: Totally agree, and I’m a Caps fan.

  26. 26.

    pinacacci

    April 29, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    I am surprised there is Lily restraint…I guess even Lily can’t make pooping look good.

  27. 27.

    J R in WV

    April 29, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    The only time I deliberately sat down to watch hockey was years ago when we went to a business convention for my wife’s biz. There was a banquet, followed by an awards ceremony, awards for people I didn’t know, so I crept out after dessert, went to our room and set down to watch Hockey.

    We don’t have cable, never have, so even if the games were televised I wouldn’t be able to see the puck.

    Anyway, not far into the game, I began to feel… bad. Queasy and upset. Followed by 6 hours of empty out syndrome! Turns out about 30% of banquet attendees were affected, probably from a stack of plates or glasses or forks.

    Wife got back to the room late, 2 am or so, I was still in the every 20 minutes empty out cycle, until 6 am or so. Next morning, we had to drive 4 hours back home. When wife stopped for gas, she got a orange soda, which when opened attacked me somehow. I rode with the window open for a while, and still can’t abide orange pop, nor artificial orange flavored anything.

    Hockey, now does that go again? I don’t recall….. ;-)

  28. 28.

    WaterGirl

    April 29, 2018 at 7:59 pm

    @J R in WV: Love your stories, even when they aren’t happy ones.

  29. 29.

    Joeg

    April 29, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    “No goal” was good call.

    Here is CBC/Sportsnet explaining parralax view/geometry regarding how views are distorted by angles.

    https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/how-geometry-created-the-illusion-of-a-flames-goal/

  30. 30.

    smintheus

    April 29, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    @Joeg: No, that does not support the no-goal call. It was not merely that white ice was visible in front of the puck. It was also the fact that at one stage the entire puck disappears behind the post from that angle before being pulled back into view, meaning it must have been fully across the line when it was obstructed by the post.

  31. 31.

    Joeg

    April 29, 2018 at 11:40 pm

    @smintheus: Respectfully, there was no video proving your assumption that once the puck disappeared it was over the line. Disappearing behind the post when the goalies pads or skates are also pressed along the post can also mean the puck is pressed to the post rather than across the goal line. Goal video reviews can not make assumptions based upon the puck disappearing. Same with a goalie making a glove save at the goal line if video shows parts of the glove over the line. The puck must be seen over the line. Full Stop.

  32. 32.

    Joeg

    April 29, 2018 at 11:49 pm

    @smintheus: Also, the popular argument that it was a goal is based upon that still frame picture. Not because the puck disappeared inside the post although a better overhead shot may indeed have shown puck fully over line.
    Great game tho and Pens will likely win series and face the Bs.

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