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You are here: Home / Politics / America / An Awkward Appearance At The National Day Of Prayer: Visa Lottery Edition

An Awkward Appearance At The National Day Of Prayer: Visa Lottery Edition

by Adam L Silverman|  May 3, 20188:41 pm| 165 Comments

This post is in: America, Domestic Politics, Election 2016, Foreign Affairs, Military, Open Threads, Politics, Popular Culture, Post-racial America

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If you look behind the President in this video embedded in his tweet, you’ll see Chaplain (LTC) Agbere.

Today, it was my great honor to celebrate the #NationalDayOfPrayer at the @WhiteHouse, in the Rose Garden! Proclamation: https://t.co/4jAxJnBJoq pic.twitter.com/AsWTfpu290

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 3, 2018

Or if you’d prefer not to watch, here’s a picture of him at today’s National Day of Prayer event:

(Image 1: Chaplain Agbere in the Rose Garden)

I’m not sure whether anyone briefed the President on Chaplain Agbere’s background, but aside from his ongoing honorable service as a Muslim chaplain, Chaplain Agbere is able to serve Muslims in the US Army and the other Services because of the visa lottery.

Unusual path to service

Agbere will be the first to say he’s not a typical U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel. Born and raised in the West African nation of Ghana, Agbere won the U.S. Diversity Visa lottery, which randomly selects immigrants from countries with historically low rates of immigration to the United States.

“When you are growing up in Ghana — in Africa, not just in Ghana — America is the land of prosperity,” he said.

He eagerly accepted the visa and got a job teaching high school students in New Jersey, but after months with the unruly students, he yearned for a job with more discipline and order.

“So when I saw the Navy was hiring people, I said, ‘That’s where I belong,'” Agbere said.

He went to boot camp with the Navy until he discovered he could not become an officer without U.S. citizenship. Rather than make him wait, his superiors allowed him to switch to the Army, which did not have the same restriction.

His Army career has taken him to war zones in Afghanistan and Iraq. As a fluent Arabic speaker and oftentimes the only Muslim in his unit, Agbere says he works to “bridge the gap” between cultures. He said many in the allied armies he worked with “never fathomed” they’d see a Muslim in the U.S. Army.

Adding Agbere’s time in the Army and the Navy, he has served in the U.S. military for nearly two decades. He says he doesn’t judge those who have sought to vilify his faith during this turbulent political time, choosing instead to point out the “beauty” of American diversity.

“Definitely some of these things are based on ignorance, and I always see this as an opportunity to teach people,” he said.

“I want to be able to define my story. I don’t want my story to define me.”

Awkward!!!!

President Donald Trump, during a White House Cabinet meeting Wednesday, said he wants to terminate the Diversity Visa Lottery, a program that distributes around 50,000 visas to countries where there is a low rate of immigration to the US.

“I am, today, starting the process of terminating the diversity lottery program,” Trump said, seated next to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. “I am going to ask Congress to immediately initiate work to get rid of this program, diversity lottery, diversity lottery. Sounds nice, it is not nice, it is not good. It hasn’t been good and we have been against it.”

Hopefully someone was able to give Stephen Miller some Xanax and his stuffed Goebbel’s doll and put him down for his nap before the event, so he didn’t have to see a visa lottery participant sully the White House.

I’ve not had the honor or privilege to serve with Chaplain Agbere, but I know some folks who have and they speak very highly of him. I have had a chance to serve with another Ghanaian immigrant who is a chaplain in the US Army. In addition to being my brigade combat team’s chaplain when we were deployed in Iraq, he is also a tribal king in Ghana and a good and close friend.

Stay pious!

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Skepticat

    May 3, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    I shall never be pious, but I am laughing heartily. As an atheist, I’d prefer we have no days of prayers or chaplains in the government, but at least we have some good people–and diversity (but don’t tell tRump).

  2. 2.

    efgoldman

    May 3, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    Weasel Face will never notice the anomaly.

  3. 3.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 3, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    MAJ or LTC? Shoulder boards look silver to me and the quoted article says LTC.

  4. 4.

    Major Major Major Major

    May 3, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    Ugh, fuuuuuck trump. Thanks for the picture and description for those of us who will stroke out if we have to watch him on video.

    Had a shitty day at work. Felt really stupid; I’m hoping I severely underestimated a task’s complexity, as opposed to being a moron.

    I hate those days.

    But I found twenty bucks on the sidewalk, so that was cool.

  5. 5.

    efgoldman

    May 3, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    But I found twenty bucks on the sidewalk

    That’s mine!

  6. 6.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: There was a promotion I missed when scanning different articles about him earlier today when I first thought about doing this post. I’ll fix it. Thanks. Good catch.

  7. 7.

    schrodingers_cat

    May 3, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    What is his problem with the diversity lottery?

  8. 8.

    Major Major Major Major

    May 3, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Speaking of faith. The other day my carpool broke so I had to take an Uber, and the driver was listening to some Christian station that had like a morning zoo-style show on. One of the bumper ads was the woman saying “so, as a Christian, what are you supposed to do when you find out you work with, or are related to, a committed atheist? Well, it happened to me—find out what *i* did, tomorrow at eight.”

    I just couldn’t believe it. Maybe it was a national station. I know I’m in a bubble, but… so is everybody else who lives here, and that’s where I heard it.

  9. 9.

    boatboy_srq

    May 3, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    Looking at those photos I can’t help but think that Lord Dampnut doesn’t care where the props are sourced.

  10. 10.

    boatboy_srq

    May 3, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Brings in more of Those People®.

  11. 11.

    trollhattan

    May 3, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    Sitting under our bottlebrush, which is in full bloom, enjoying a pair of black-chinned hummingbirds working the flowers a foot and a half above my head, while the pointer dog worries himself sideways.

    Their wings make a sound reminiscent of flying saucers in ’50s sci-fi flicks.

    Carry on.

  12. 12.

    efgoldman

    May 3, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    What is his problem with the diversity lottery?

    It might let dark skinned people in

  13. 13.

    TenguPhule

    May 3, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    he is a also tribal king in Ghana and a good and close friend.

    Ahem.

  14. 14.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    Repost…
    And…..let me guess…she ran right over Hayes…ugh..

    Chris Hayes stop w/this shtick where he has on a crazy right side politico and attempts to have a reasoned conversation…cause he ALWAYS gets rolled over by these nuts he brings on the show…he rarely if EVERr “shows em up”…smh…he needs to leave folks like this to Joy Ann, Lawrence O or Rachel…even Tweety would be better at handling these types..

    @mattbc
    24m24 minutes ago
    More
    Victoria Toensing to @chrislhayes: “I’m just telling you what the law is, you’re wife’s a lawyer, maybe she can tell you what the law is”

    VT’s argument is “if the President does it, it isn’t illegal”. These people are disconnected from legal reality…

    https://twitter.com/mattbc/status/992197534608175104

  15. 15.

    TenguPhule

    May 3, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    what are you supposed to do when you find out you work with, or are related to, a committed atheist? Well, it happened to me—find out what *i* did, tomorrow at eight.”

    Sounds like an episode of True Crime.

  16. 16.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: He is convinced its an actual lottery with no screening. People in various developing countries either buy tickets or pull numbers out of a hat and then their governments ship them to the US. No background checks, no vetting. So, as is his assertion with Mexico and Mexicans, they’re not sending their best.

  17. 17.

    Jeffro

    May 3, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Pious-ing away here at Alice In Chains/Walking Papers…just got to chat with Jeff Angell of WP a bit…cold beer…ahh!

    And here comes AIC…?

  18. 18.

    TenguPhule

    May 3, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Weasel Face will never notice the anomaly.

    He can’t even spell anomaly.

  19. 19.

    zhena gogolia

    May 3, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Look at that picture of Trump. His butt alone weighs 239 pounds.

  20. 20.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    @TenguPhule: That’s where that “a” went!

  21. 21.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    @zhena gogolia: He’s wearing a bustle.

  22. 22.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again…I love how Adam Rippon seems to be just comfortable in his skin…and doesn’t seem to let the haters energy bring him down.

    Oh and I especially love that he ain’t here for Pence and his bullshit…an wouldn’t let Chump co use HIS hardwork and charisma for bullshit azz photo-ops.

    @Nightline
    [email protected] skater @Adaripp on giving himself the title of ‘America’s sweetheart:’ “I’m going to say that I’m America’s sweetheart once and see what happens,” Rippon told Nightline Special Correspondent @guskenworthy

    3:59 PM – May 3, 2018
    https://twitter.com/Nightline/status/992146720971620357

  23. 23.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 3, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    @lamh36:

    “I’m just telling you what the law is, you’re wife’s a lawyer, maybe she can tell you what the law is”

    Does Ms Toensing speak English? It should be “your wife” not “you’re wife”.

    A lawyer* did say “if the President does it, it isn’t illegal”, so IANAL so who am I to question that.

    *Richard M. Nixon, Esq.

  24. 24.

    Ninedragonspot

    May 3, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    I have friends who came to this country thanks to the diversity lottery. Our immigration system doesn’t have much to recommend it, but the diversity lottery is one of its best features. The current GOP campaign against it makes me angrier than I can say.

  25. 25.

    schrodingers_cat

    May 3, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I was going to comment on the yuge backside.

  26. 26.

    Yarrow

    May 3, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    @zhena gogolia: @Adam L Silverman: It does look like he’s wearing a bustle. Or maybe a corset? Also, his hand is swallowed up by the hand of the man in the hat whose hand he’s shaking. Tiny hands.

  27. 27.

    slag

    May 3, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Making America Kittens Again may not work all the time, but when it does, it’s magical. Expect to see Angry Circus Peanut, get fuzzy wittle puffballs instead. If only more outlets would properly tag their photos, the Internet would be a much cuter place.

    Beyond which those kittens clearly have far more moral courage and intellectual honesty than Paul Ryan will ever have so extra bonus in this situation.

  28. 28.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Oopsie!

    #UPDATE Twitter urged its more than 300 million users to change their passwords, saying they had been unintentionally "unmasked" inside the company by a software bug, though the site said it found no sign that hackers accessed the exposed data https://t.co/PQaABf3x9S

    — AFP news agency (@AFP) May 3, 2018

  29. 29.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    @Yarrow:

    of the man in the hat

    We call them rabbis. But man in the hat works too!//

  30. 30.

    schrodingers_cat

    May 3, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    @Ninedragonspot: The two diversity lottery winners I know were already here as grad students and got their PhDs here. Where is that outrage that the press corpse showed last week, when T lies about our immigration system and demonizes immigrants on a daily basis.
    They are enablers, at the very least. I am looking at you MAGA Habs and Vichy Times.

  31. 31.

    chris

    May 3, 2018 at 9:15 pm

    here we go.

    BREAKING: The Missouri Legislature has called itself into a special session to consider impeaching Gov. Eric Greitens.— The Associated Press (@AP) 4 May 2018

  32. 32.

    schrodingers_cat

    May 3, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    @Yarrow: Adult diapers?

  33. 33.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    Another repost…oh and how thirsty is Ingraham for a ratings boost on for that crappy show…

    What I heard after reading this tweet…

    Shorter Micheal Avenatti to Hannity… “Hey Sean”

    @MichaelAvenatti
    Thanks but I’ve been really clear as to the next Fox show I will appear on, and that’s Sean’s show. I keep asking and the network keeps dodging me. I’ll even go on with Rudy if need be. What are they afraid of?#myturn

    @IngrahamAngle
    More Laura Ingraham Retweeted Michael Avenatti
    Come on the show, Mike.

    https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/992152347156582401

  34. 34.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    @Yarrow: More seriously, I’m wondering whether they have him in body armor whenever he goes outside. That wouldn’t explain the plus sized caboose, but it might explain why his suit jackets and overcoats seem to fit weird in the front.

  35. 35.

    Matt McIrvin

    May 3, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    My daughter goes to school with the granddaughter of one of those Ghanaian tribal kings. Here are some of them.

  36. 36.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    @TheRoot
    3h3 hours ago
    More
    A conversation you don’t want to miss: @TraceeEllisRoss will interview our forever FLOTUS @MichelleObama this weekend https://trib.al/LEXATlm

  37. 37.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    It is only a matter of time until one of these reporters is beaten and/or raped and/or killed by one of the President’s supporters.

    A guest at the White House for the National Day of Prayer event tells me I am “pitiful and disgusting” for reporting that President Trump reimbursed his attorney for the $130,000 he paid a porn actress. I think you’re gonna have to take that up with Trump, sir.

    — Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) May 3, 2018

  38. 38.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 3, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: That’s David Vitter.

  39. 39.

    Major Major Major Major

    May 3, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    @slag:

    Making America Kittens Again may not work all the time, but when it does, it’s magical.

    Yes. Love it.

  40. 40.

    patroclus

    May 3, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    I’m pretty sure I left 20 bucks on the sidewalk recently. Did anybody find it? Thanks!

  41. 41.

    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)

    May 3, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    Tuesday is Indiana’s primary day, and I can’t decide if I want to vote in the Democratic primary or the Republican one.

    The only real Democratic contests locally are for township offices and I don’t know a thing about the candidates, so I’m thinking of voting a Republican ballot in order to “support” the worst Senate candidate for the November general election.

    So should I vote for Luke Messer, Todd Rokita, or Mike Braun?
    Or should I go ahead and vote Democratic to help pad the number of Democrats in Indiana?

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    @chris: Breaking: Governor Eric Greitens issues executive order declaring a state of emergency, dissolving the Missouri Legislature, calls out the National Guard, and declares martial law.//

  43. 43.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    The Society appears to be pissed!

    Speaker Ryan forgot something about Pat Conroy, SJ. It's the same thing that some cardinals forgot about Pope Francis: Jesuits aren't pushovers. https://t.co/Ulr6HWrks1

    — James Martin, SJ (@JamesMartinSJ) May 3, 2018

  44. 44.

    Jay C

    May 3, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    Personally, I think that the National Day of Prayer has pretty much proved to be a bust.

    After all, Donald Trump hasn’t yet been struck by lightning….

  45. 45.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    Speaking of awkward…this…could be a problem.

    @amjoyshow
    Following Following @amjoyshow
    More
    Stacey Vs. Stacey: Inside Georgia’s Pivotal Governor’s Race http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/stacey-abrams-vs-stacey-evans-georgia-governors-race.html?utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s3&utm_campaign=sharebutton-t … via @IntelligencerWV

    https://twitter.com/amjoyshow/status/992196861493624832

  46. 46.

    schrodingers_cat

    May 3, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    WTF is a prayer breakfast. Is there alcohol? Don’t pious people fast?

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    They’re not sending their best!

    18 lawmakers nominate President Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize pic.twitter.com/2ZfA6jONLc

    — FOX & friends (@foxandfriends) May 3, 2018

  48. 48.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I believe I saw a tweet saying Ryan rescinded his call for the resignation?

    anyone else see that?

  49. 49.

    raven

    May 3, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    @lamh36:

    House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Thursday that he accepts House Chaplain Patrick Conroy’s decision to rescind his resignation.

    “I have accepted Father Conroy’s letter and decided that he will remain in his position as Chaplain of the House,” Ryan said in a statement. “It is my job as speaker to do what is best for this body, and I know that this body is not well served by a protracted fight over such an important post.”

  50. 50.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 3, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    of the man in the hat

    We call them rabbis. But man in the hat works too!//

    Don Blankenship calls them “hat people.”

  51. 51.

    Bobby Thomson

    May 3, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    Knew a few Ghanaian ex-pats back in the day. Great guys.

  52. 52.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:
    It lets people in who cannot pass the paper bag test

  53. 53.

    Mandalay

    May 3, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    I’m in serious danger of having nice thoughts about Jeff Sessions:

    An indictment was unsealed earlier today charging Martin Winterkorn, 70, the former chairman of the management board of Volkswagen AG (VW), with conspiracy and wire fraud in connection with VW’s long-running scheme to cheat U.S. diesel vehicle emissions requirements…

    …“If you try to deceive the United States, then you will pay a heavy price,” said Attorney General Sessions. “The indictment unsealed today alleges that Volkswagen’s scheme to cheat its legal requirements went all the way to the top of the company. These are serious allegations, and we will prosecute this case to the fullest extent of the law.

    Time will tell if anything actually comes of this, and I can’t imagine such a high profile German spending any time in a US slammer, but VW’s claim that nobody in senior management knew anything about the emissions cheating was a blatant and obvious lie from the start.

  54. 54.

    trollhattan

    May 3, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    @lamh36:
    Ryan has zero chance of polishing this turd. Nice departing gift.

  55. 55.

    J R in WV

    May 3, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    My wife was assaulted by police officers in a local county court house, and the city cops saved her life, escorted her out of the hearing.

    Reporters receive real death threats all the time. Wife got her first carry permit back when circuit court judges issued them by playing a recorded message on her phone’s answering machine – a death threat from a state cop being investigated. Judge signed her permit instantly!

    We both carried for days after that, I didn’t care about a permit! It was legal to carry open, so I did!

  56. 56.

    raven

    May 3, 2018 at 9:37 pm

    @J R in WV: My late buddy lived in Lousia Ky but did most of his mine survey work in W VA. He always packed,

  57. 57.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 9:37 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Nah, the clown has never dressed well. FOr years he has paraded around in floppy, poorly fit suits. They go with the too long & badly done ties. He has no taste and apparently nobody around him that can tell him he looks like a slob

  58. 58.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    Ok…I’m really appreciaing. this “TRMS law school” format Maddow is doing to break down all the legal news of the day w/2 former prosecutors and a criminal attorney.

    Well done Maddow…well done!

  59. 59.

    Alain the site fixer

    May 3, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: nice!

  60. 60.

    Sab

    May 3, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @J R in WV: I am mostly anti-gun but lots of people live in different emvironments than I do.

    I used to live in western Michigan. I did a lot of community theater. One of our actors was an apple farmer in his day job. He had a scary prowler. He called the sherriff. They told him to check it out and call back if thete was a problem. Next day he bought a gun.

  61. 61.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    @lamh36: The Chaplain rescinded his resignation. And basically told Ryan to stuff it and that Ryan’s Chief of Staff who told the Chaplain he needed to resign is an anti-Catholic bigot. He then threatened Ryan to actually fire him. If he actually had that authority. Ryan quickly backed down. Here’s Father Conroy’s letter:

    House Chaplain Pat Conroy not going down without a fight. Tells Paul Ryan he won't resign. Ryan has to fire him if he wants the priest to leave Congress. pic.twitter.com/32xegljFer

    — Daniel Burke (@BurkeCNN) May 3, 2018

  62. 62.

    Mnemosyne

    May 3, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    As I was saying earlier, if you tell a Jesuit that you’d rather get your spiritual counseling from a Protestant, he’ll nod and think to himself that you’re a fool. If you try to tell him he’s bad at being a priest, you will find out why the Jesuits are called “God’s Army.” ?

    @raven:

    Shorter Ryan: “Meep.”

  63. 63.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    My guess he calls them something a whole lot less socially acceptable than ‘hat people’

  64. 64.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    @HoarseWisperer
    Follow Follow @HoarseWisperer
    More
    Anybody do a health check on Dennis Miller?

    I’m worried he may have overtaxed himself cramming for yesterday’s joke deadline.

    8:25 PM – 3 May 2018

  65. 65.

    lollipopguild

    May 3, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: My attorney Rufus T. Firefly will be getting in touch with you about returning my 20 dollar bill. You cannot claim that you were insane when you found it because as everyone knows there is no such thing as sanity clause.

  66. 66.

    patroclus

    May 3, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    TRMS tonight is just awful – a bunch of lawyers blathering. I get this all day at work – I’m gonna watch the NBA.

  67. 67.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 3, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Damn.

  68. 68.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    I’m about out of expletives!

    White Helmets faced Trump admin whiplash: "Our meetings in March were very positive. There were even remarks from senior officials about long-term commitments even into 2020. There were no suggestions whatsoever about stopping support." @SyriaCivilDef https://t.co/ImUhacMihB

    — Kylie Atwood (@kylieatwood) May 3, 2018

  69. 69.

    Kathleen

    May 3, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    Agbere will be the first to say he’s not a typical U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel. Born and raised in the West African nation of Ghana, Agbere won the U.S. Diversity Visa lottery, which randomly selects immigrants from countries with historically low rates of immigration to the United States.

    Surprised ICE didn’t show up to arrest and deport him.

  70. 70.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 3, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I’m happy to say I’ve heard of very few of those deluded cretins. Hope all of them lose BIGLY come November.

    BTW, through a circuitous train of thought, with which I shall not bore you (y’all), what ever became of that cray-cray rep from one of the Carolinas, Virginia Foxx? She used to be all over every nutball initiative proposed, but I don’t even remember seeing her name in the last year or so. Is she even still in Congress?

    (Scooting off to search the Googles before someone yells at me for failing to do so earlier.)

  71. 71.

    raven

    May 3, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: It’s funny. Pat Conroy writes about his family in “The Death of Santini”. His uncle, Father James Conroy was a incredible racist as were most of his Chicago Irish relatives.

  72. 72.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    @lamh36:
    He chickened out. He tweeted today something about following West’s lead & refuse to stoop to ‘their level’. He really is a pathetic nobody now.

  73. 73.

    Mnemosyne

    May 3, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @Bobby Thomson:

    I think the African graduate student who made chicken and peanut stew for me and my friend when we were starving undergrads was from Ghana.

    That stew still lives in myth and memory. So delicious.

  74. 74.

    J R in WV

    May 3, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @J R in WV:

    In addition: Actually, when I was in grade school, suddenly I was no longer walking to school but riding both directions. Much later I learned that my parents had been threatened, that I would be splashed with acid for their reporting about crooked local politicians. I guess that threat was against me, but I didn’t know at the time.

    No one was arrested, but a neighbor called the police one night after seeing a man lurking about our house, and the police found dynamite and a sawed off shotgun when they came up lights blinking red. Long time ago, the late 1950s, before blue lights for cops.

  75. 75.

    debit

    May 3, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    @lollipopguild: Wait, wait, hold on. What about the party of the first part?

  76. 76.

    lollipopguild

    May 3, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: They eat breakfast together(no alcohol) then there are speeches and prayers and they pat each other on the back and tell each other how wonderful they are.

  77. 77.

    Sab

    May 3, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Did he give you the recipe? Sounds amazing.

  78. 78.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 3, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    My guess he calls them something a whole lot less socially acceptable than ‘hat people’

    Well yeah. OBVS. I was naturally talking about Blankenship in his well-crafted and slickly-produced T&V ads.

  79. 79.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    @J R in WV: I’m tracking on how risky being a journalist is/can be. But the President has increased that risk by a lot.

  80. 80.

    Platonailedit

    May 3, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    @raven: The ‘policy wonk’ is piss poor in management too. Who cudda known.

  81. 81.

    satby

    May 3, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    @Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman): vote for the Democratic nomination. Sometimes the cross votes don’t work out as planned.

  82. 82.

    Mike in NC

    May 3, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    Chaplain is wearing crescent moon lapel devices. Might be a recent addition.

  83. 83.

    raven

    May 3, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    I’m going to bed but if you dorks don’t love this dog video I’ll eat my hat.

  84. 84.

    efgoldman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    @patroclus:

    I’m pretty sure I left 20 bucks on the sidewalk recently. Did anybody find it?

    Mx4 did. Told him it’s mine.

  85. 85.

    NotMax

    May 3, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    Plans had been made to today take care of a bunch of little errands and similar stuff hanging fire.

    Didn’t get around to accomplishing a single one.

    Posiblemente mañana.

    (Not looking forward to dealing with the DMV, but it is a time sensitive must do.)

  86. 86.

    El Caganer

    May 3, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    @TenguPhule: No, everybody else gets anomaly. He gets two nomalies.

  87. 87.

    J R in WV

    May 3, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    @raven:

    My mother’s mother was born and raised in Louisa, Ky, I’ve been to the old house there many times. Now it’s a parking lot for the church next door. Sad!

    I would carry too, doing that work, anywhere around here!

  88. 88.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 3, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    @Mike in NC: Jewish Chaplains wear two stone tablets joined together on each lapel (representing the tablets of the 10 commandments). Christian Chaplains (all denominations) wear crosses.

  89. 89.

    efgoldman

    May 3, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Governor Eric Greitens issues executive order declaring a state of emergency, dissolving the Missouri Legislature

    The way tings go things go these days, I had to double check the tag//

  90. 90.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    @Sab:
    Not sure it is the same one but here is the one I make:
    2 Tbl oil
    1 med red onion, chopped
    2 cloves garlic, minced
    2 Tbl fresh ginger, chopped
    1 pound chicken, cut into chunks (I prefer thigh)
    5 cups chicken stock
    3 small sweet potatoes, cut into chunks
    1 Tbl crushed red pepper
    salt and ground black pepper to taste
    1 (16 ounce) can chopped tomatoes, with liquid
    1/4 pound collard greens, roughly chopped
    1 C chunky peanut butter

    Heat the oil in a large pot over medium-high heat; cook and stir the onion, garlic, and ginger in the hot oil until softened, about 5 minutes. Add the chicken; cook and stir until completely browned. Pour the chicken stock over the mixture. Season with the crushed red pepper, salt, and black pepper. Stir the sweet potatoes into the liquid and bring the mixture to a boil; reduce heat to low, cover the pot partially with a lid, and cook at a simmer for 15 minutes.

    Stir the tomatoes, collard greens, and peanut butter into the soup. Partially cover the pot again and continue cooking, stirring occasionally, another 20 minutes.

  91. 91.

    Mike in NC

    May 3, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Yes, but for many years the Ten Commandments on the Jewish chaplain’s insignia had Roman numerals until replaced by Hebrew.

  92. 92.

    satby

    May 3, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    @Schlemazel: that sounds great. And it’s crying out to be made in my Instantpot. Bet 5 minutes pressure with natural release gets the same results (after browning the chicken).

  93. 93.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    @Schlemazel:
    If anyone is interested have a couple other peanut based recipes from West Africa but they are onpaper not online so it would take a while to get them. I’ll be going to bed really soon so not tonight.
    I love the peanut stuff fo West Africa but generally prefer the seasoning and flavors from East Africa more.

  94. 94.

    Mnemosyne

    May 3, 2018 at 10:05 pm

    @Sab:

    If he did, it was lost long ago in one of my many college moves. Schlemazel’s recipe probably isn’t too far off, though I don’t remember there being greens in it.

  95. 95.

    Brickley Paiste

    May 3, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    Why, it is almost as if Trump’s staff is so incompetent that they allow this chaplain person to be in the same zip code as Trump since his very existence is a repudiation of several of Trump’s key messages.

    I went through a lull a few weeks back, thinking “Okay, I’ve seen Trump’s crazy, I’m not really surprised anymore by the depth of his incompetence and crazy.”

    And yet, after this and Ghouliani’s shit-show … I have to say I have regained my sense of surprise.

  96. 96.

    BruceFromOhio

    May 3, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    I am, today, starting the process of terminating the diversity lottery program

    New drone command language.
    “Terminating” and “diversity” in the same sentence, double-word score!

  97. 97.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    @satby:
    Don’t have one of those and am not convinced yet but I keep hearing good things abpout them. I know you can sous vide the stew at 140f and it is perfect

  98. 98.

    satby

    May 3, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    @Schlemazel: later, I would be! I gotta hit the hay too.

    Edit: and goodnight all!

  99. 99.

    Elizabelle

    May 3, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    @Schlemazel: I’m interested, but only when you have time to put the recipes up. Saving this thread, too. Thanks!

    Night night. Sleep tight.

  100. 100.

    NotMax

    May 3, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    @satby

    5 minutes might be a tad too quick for the potato chunks. Maybe 8 minutes?

  101. 101.

    Elizabelle

    May 3, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    @satby: Ciao ciao ciao. Sleep tight to you, too.

    Since you guys are heading to bed, am thinking Rudy is not booked onto Fox tonight? Last night was lively about this hour.

  102. 102.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    @lamh36: She might, I don’t know, actually let them finish talking before starting the follow up question.

  103. 103.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    I have one that does not have that but adds smoked fish and is blended smooth before the chicken is added. Another has no greens but adds coriander and cilantro. I didn’t like the fish one much but the other one was good.

    Regional and family differences make guessing what was in the original difficult but there is fun in trying the varieties!

  104. 104.

    Steve in the ATL

    May 3, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: baptists don’t wear dollar signs?

  105. 105.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I went to a Jesuit high school. Creatively named Jesuit High School.

  106. 106.

    jl

    May 3, 2018 at 10:14 pm

    In the link I see ALS’s friend is Fanti. I knew quite a few Fanti people in grad school. Hope his reign went well after his service.
    They told me that their kings have more ceremonial power than anything else, and affect real decisions through informal influence and connections that kingship brings.

    I remember a news segment on an older white English guy who somehow became a king in Ghana. I forget the name of the group. The reporter jokingly asked him how he handled his dozens of wives. And the English guy said they were purely ceremonial and no extra duties were involved.

  107. 107.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @Schlemazel: Bagel people? Bagelites? Bagelis?//

  108. 108.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: true dat! She’s usually better at that, but I appreciate what she attempted to do for us lay folk…who really only graduated from Law & Order: SVU school…LOL

  109. 109.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Ayep!

  110. 110.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @NotMax:
    It is 15 minutes if you are looking at the recipe I put up. Plus another 20 after you add the peanut butter and greens

  111. 111.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: She’s still there.

  112. 112.

    boatboy_srq

    May 3, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: Southern Baptists tried nooses, but that didn’t attract (white) people like they thought.

  113. 113.

    Schlemazel

    May 3, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Well the ‘nicest’ one I would expect would be “Christ Killer People”

    I still remember the first time I heard one of my ‘Christian’ neighbors’ call my Jewish ones that. It made me know not to use any of the other terms he used. My dad got me though. When I was really young there was a rag and bone man that had a horse & cart & would drive up and down the alley collecting scrap metal and things that he would sell at the junk yrd. Dad always called him “the shinny” and I incorrectly guessed that was a generic term for a rag and bone guy. I found out too late it is not much to my embarassment

  114. 114.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 3, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: Only the Southern Baptists.

  115. 115.

    Steve in the ATL

    May 3, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    @boatboy_srq: ooh that’s much better!

  116. 116.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    @raven: It’s the American way. Come here. Be terribly discriminated against. And if everything goes right in three or four generations you can join the ranks of the prejudiced and discriminatory. See: Miller, Stephen.

  117. 117.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    @raven: Landscape mode!

  118. 118.

    jl

    May 3, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    I’m eagerly waiting for Rudy’s next interview. I read that Rudy and Trump are dong this on their own, and hashed out the plan (such as it is) all by themselves in BS sessions. And Rudy is supposed to be dong a media blitz, so he should be on any minute again now. I can hardly wait.

    We’ll know how bad things are when Rudy says on national TV: ‘You have to remember, Aaron Burr, third VP, spent most of his term on the lam from murder raps in two states. Back then it interfered with his ability to do the job, but these days with Air Force 1 and residences all over the world, and modern communications, it wouldn’t be such a problem. So, Burr ended up committing treason, but people had been very very unfair to him. Really unfair. Sean, there’s just nothing here. Noting the justifies this witch hunt and very very unfair persecution.”

  119. 119.

    Gelfling545

    May 3, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    @boatboy_srq: And they’re not from Norway IYKWIM.

  120. 120.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    @efgoldman: I’m hoping I’m just being a smartass and not being prescient.

  121. 121.

    Patricia Kayden

    May 3, 2018 at 10:25 pm

    @raven: Wow. I guess publicly fighting with a Priest didn’t look good even to an ogre like Ryan.

  122. 122.

    efgoldman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I’m hoping I’m just being a smartass

    Me too.

  123. 123.

    Corner Stone

    May 3, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    Jesus. Avenatti just blew the whole campaign finance shit wide open on L’OD.

  124. 124.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    @Brickley Paiste: My guess is a request went in to the DOD for a Muslim chaplain. The DOD pushed it down to the services, the Army was up in rotation for this sort of thing or Chaplain Agbere was the closest Muslim chaplain stationed to DC or the one available and that’s how he wound up there.

  125. 125.

    Patricia Kayden

    May 3, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    @raven: I didn’t see a dog. Just heard a man yelling for Tasha and a woman laughing.

  126. 126.

    schrodingers_cat

    May 3, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    @Gelfling545: Actually people from Norway may be eligible for the diversity visa. It is open to the citizens of countries that don’t send many immigrants to the United States.

  127. 127.

    Corner Stone

    May 3, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    Holy shit. See you later Rictus Rudy and Cohen.

  128. 128.

    B.B.A.

    May 3, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: See also: Arpaio, Joseph.

  129. 129.

    Mnemosyne

    May 3, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I grew up in Catholic areas, so everyone knew what “Loyola” meant as part of the name of the high school or college.

    My brother went to the same high school as Bill Murray and his brothers, but about a decade later. And I know that Rick Santorum has always been a moron because his family sent him to the Carmelite high school in our area of Chicagoland, not the Jesuit one.

  130. 130.

    Librarian

    May 3, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    Rachel drove me crazy tonight. She kept saying “pretense” when she meant “pretext.”

  131. 131.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 3, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: I once joked with a fellow officer that Southern Baptist chaplains should have flaming crosses.

    As a Southern Baptist, he was not amused.

  132. 132.

    Elizabelle

    May 3, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    @Corner Stone: Missed it! Was emailing back and forth with a friend, and just heard LOD thanking MA for the breaking news.

    Quick summary? Am sure LOD will have one, too …

  133. 133.

    schrodingers_cat

    May 3, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    My spiritual advisor is my kitteh, the messenger of the Holy Ceiling Cat. I serve him a prayer breakfast every morning. If I am late the wrath of Ceiling Cat is upon me.

  134. 134.

    Yarrow

    May 3, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    @Corner Stone: Can you elaborate?

  135. 135.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    May 3, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    Is it a sign of the apocalypse? The local news is talking about the number of elected women in local politics.

  136. 136.

    scav

    May 3, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    @Schlemazel: I’d love any West African recipes that appear as well. I’m more familar with parts of the Yoruba cuisine, but I’m sure elements are shared. Dodo! Gari! Pepper Soup.

  137. 137.

    Corner Stone

    May 3, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    @Elizabelle: Just that Avenatti has extensive proof between Cohen and Stormy’s previous atty (and maybe others) that the hush payment had to be concluded BEFORE the election.

  138. 138.

    CarolPW

    May 3, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: The dog pops up (and down) behind the pot on the patio.

  139. 139.

    Peale

    May 3, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: yep. They just sweep homeless people off the streets of Lagos and sign them up for welfare in Des Moines…without anyone even questioning who they are and how they will be able to support themselves.

  140. 140.

    Steve in the ATL

    May 3, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: that’s excellent!

  141. 141.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    May 3, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:
    The real question is why would they want to (from Nordic countries for example), aside from joining family members and once in a lifetime career opportunities

  142. 142.

    Amir Khalid

    May 3, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:
    But you first have to apply to be an immigrant, don’t you? That right there is the problem with getting immigrants from the countries Trump would prefer: very very few Norwegians, for example, have a reason to prefer living in America.

  143. 143.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 3, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I just have to put up with the cat continuing to destroy the furniture in order to get my attention.

    At 5 AM.

  144. 144.

    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]

    May 3, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    @Schlemazel: I have a gentleman from Ghana who is in our research group. I’m going to have to surprise him for our Friday meeting one week with groundnut (chicken and peanut) stew. (Our Friday meeting starts out late, 4:30-7:30 PM, Pizza is often brought).

  145. 145.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    @lamh36: It was what it was.

  146. 146.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    @kylegriffin1
    Michael Avenatti breaks news on @TheLastWord: “There were extensive communications between Michael Cohen and [Stormy Daniels’ ex-lawyer] Keith Davidson in October of 2016 relating to the timing of this payment and the need for the payment to be made prior to the election.”

    9:40 PM – May 3, 2018

  147. 147.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    @Schlemazel: It happens. Times changes and, for the larger part, fortunately people do to.

    What you all needed was the Tatterdemalion of Justice!
    http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Rory_Regan_(New_Earth)

  148. 148.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    @jl:

    I read that Rudy and Trump are dong this on their own

    I’m hoping this typo was intentional!

  149. 149.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Watch it again and look at the flower pot. What the top of the flower pot every time the glass door is slid shut.

  150. 150.

    lamh36

    May 3, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    @lamh36:

    “I’m not pulling a Giuliani, I’m pulling an Avenatti and have evidence to back up my claims.” [email protected] ????

  151. 151.

    MisterForkbeard

    May 3, 2018 at 10:54 pm

    @Corner StoneTherefore, campaign fraud, as expenditures were clearly related to the election.

  152. 152.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 10:57 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: I was on the faculty team at USAWC that had the faculty chaplain on it. My first two years he was a Southern Baptist chaplain. Great sense of humor. Very laid back. Very inquisitive. Great guy. When he retired he was backfilled with another great guy, Lutheran minister, but boy was he tightly wound when he arrived. He eventually loosened up as he began to feel at home.

    I had a chaplain as a student who used to joke about handling snakes in his denomination. He’s retired now and the last time we were in touch, a couple of months ago by email, I asked if he only handled snakes recreationally now.

    The funniest one, however, was when my mom asked my good friend, former student, and the now retired garrison chaplain – a Catholic priest – if, when he retired, he would be allowed to finally date and get married. He patiently explained why that wouldn’t happen, but I suggested he might want to recommend back to the Vatican that a leave of abstinence might be a good idea.

  153. 153.

    Corner Stone

    May 3, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: It’s something Cohen can’t get out from under. Separate from all the SDNY and/or Mueller problems. FEC violations aren’t a death sentence or anything but they add another layer to all the fucking lying that has been going on. Between any emails Avenatti has and Rudy’s “Imagine if this had come out on Oct 15, 2016”, this should pretty much seal off the bullshit. It won’t, but it should.

  154. 154.

    zhena gogolia

    May 3, 2018 at 11:07 pm

    @raven:

    So cute!

  155. 155.

    Steve in the ATL

    May 3, 2018 at 11:10 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: lol. You now qualify as a “wag”. Looking forward to the lampshade on your head at the next office party!

  156. 156.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 11:13 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: It was a fun Thanksgiving dinner. I had my Nepalese generals and their families and the chaplain and a couple of my other students. I tried to make sure none of international students missed the chance for a Thanksgiving dinner if they didn’t have invites from their classmates. Same thing for my American students that were geo bachelors or bachelorettes.

  157. 157.

    zhena gogolia

    May 3, 2018 at 11:14 pm

    @lamh36:

    I clicked on that thinking it would show me the tweet and instead all of a sudden I was sending an e-mail to Avenatti. Whoops.

  158. 158.

    rikyrah

    May 3, 2018 at 11:18 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Is that for real?

  159. 159.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 3, 2018 at 11:24 pm

    @rikyrah: No, he’s quoting me being a smartass in responding to someone else’s comment. That’s why I put sarc tags “//” on my comment to show I wasn’t being serious. The comment I was responding to is that the Missouri legislature has voted to come into special session to consider impeaching Greitens.

  160. 160.

    jl

    May 3, 2018 at 11:24 pm

    @rikyrah: I think it is snark as of 8:24 PM, Pacific Daylight time, Thursday May 3, 2018 CE.

  161. 161.

    Corner Stone

    May 4, 2018 at 12:03 am

    @zhena gogolia: Don’t act like you’re not a little interested to see if he replies.

  162. 162.

    schrodingers_cat

    May 4, 2018 at 9:45 am

    @Amir Khalid: Actually I do know one Norwegian and one Danish immigrant. Norway, was not a very wealthy country before the discovery of oil. My friend immigrated in the 80s. The other person I know is a professor and has an American wife. Last year when I took my citizenship oath at least 50% of the new citizens were from Europe.
    ETA: The biggest group was from India (about 10 people and the second largest group was Canadian)
    ETA2: There is a fairly large group of GC holders who can apply for citizenship, The estimate is upwards of 10 million IIRC).

  163. 163.

    glory b

    May 4, 2018 at 10:14 am

    @schrodingers_cat: duh, the diversity!

  164. 164.

    I'll be Frank

    May 4, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    Since when do Army officers not have to be citizens? My sister had to renounce her dual Japanese citizenship. And it only took the Army about a week after I got to Ft. Sill to decide that I did not have to renounce my Puerto Rican citizenship.

  165. 165.

    Kayla Rudbek

    May 4, 2018 at 10:05 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: someday maybe I should try writing out that plot bunny about a Somali-Swedish cop in 2100 Minneapolis

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