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West by god Virginia, Ohio, North Carolina, and Indiana are holding primaries today.

West by god Virginia – Congressional and state legislature

Ohio – Congressional, governor, attorney general, and state legislature

North Carolina – Congressional and state legislature

Indiana – Congressional and state legislature

Yes I know the links are to the very unfavorite New York Times. I like their election coverage when they don’t use those damn needles. Sue me.

Looks like Blankenship and Kucenich are doing badly. How are things in your district?

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  2. 2.

    Baud

    Neither primary in Ohio looks close. So much for listening to the media horse race.

  3. 3.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    the first part of this is so depressing I can’t laugh the at the second part

    ABC News @ ABC
    West Virginia voter who says he lost three cousins in mine disaster tied to Don Blankenship tells @TomLlamasABC he’s voting for the coal baron anyway.

    “I want an honest crook, and that’s Blankenship.”

  5. 5.

    dmsilev

    NYT and various other outlets have called OH-GOV-D for Cordray, so I guess Kucinich can go back to hunting UFOs or whatever.

    Coal-miner-killer is running in third place so far in WV-SEN-R, but it’s early enough that who knows?

  10. 10.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Thanks for the thread, Cheryl.

    Looks like Blankenship and Kucenich are doing badly.

    I know it may be a long time until definitive results start showing up, but this may be one of the best sentences I’ve read all day.

  11. 11.

    PsiFighter37

    From the looks of it, Blankenship isn’t going to make it. Harder for us, sure, but in all honesty it would not be a good sign if that clown was the GOP nominee.

    As for Kucinich, fuck him. Glad that Cordray made him pound sand. Does anyone from Ohio think Cordray can beat DeWine in the general? I know DeWine was weak sauce back in 2006 when Sherrod Brown booted him, but no idea if he’s any better now.

  13. 13.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @dmsilev:

    Hope Kay is still up and active — I think she’s mostly a morning person and rarely posts at this time of night or any later, but her on-the-ground expertise would be very welcome.

    (I like to think she’s celebrating and getting happily shitfaced at a Cordray victory party, but who knows?)

  14. 14.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    In NE Ohio. Several local townships are currently voting no on their road levies and school levies. Issue One is currently winning by 76%. Cordray is winning by 63%.

    Question: are absentee ballots counted last or first?

  18. 18.

    The Ancient Randonneur

    @Baud:

    Some people are meant to be serfs

    We’ve got about 63 million of them here in the U.S.

  27. 27.

    Kathleen

    @Baud: Speaking of media horse shit race, CNN’s breathless fan boying over Kucinich:
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/08/politics/cordray-kucinich-ohio-progressives-already-won/index.html

    I voted for Cordray and 3 local issues, one of which will raise my property taxes but it’s for the Hamilton County Library, which is one of the best in the country.
    So bummed that there was no Dem candidate for State Rep. They’ve gerrymandered SW Ohio like a labyrinth Lucifer designed. I believe the new procedure for drawing state legislative districts will kick in so maybe a Dem will have a chance again. The old District was represented by two excellent Democrats.

    And with a hat tip to the inimitable Raven and efgoldman, “Fuck CNN”.

  28. 28.

    efgoldman

    @buck2202:

    the-vindication-of-dennis-kucinich

    Vindicate this, you Dino asshole!
    And I’ve never been in Ohio except to change planes.
    Kucinich is looking like your version of Lincoln Chaffee, another guy who doesn’t know enough to go home.

  30. 30.

    Brachiator

    Canada primary campaigns are as crazy as in the US. From the Guardian.

    Doug Ford ā€“ the frontrunner in the race to become premier of Canadaā€™s most populous province ā€“ has admitted that hired actors posed as supporters ahead of a high-profile debate, but denied his campaign was responsible for recruiting them.

    ā€œA local candidate made a decision to engage a casting agency. This was unnecessary and a mistake. It will not happen again,ā€ said Fordā€™s spokeswoman, Melissa Lantsman, in a statement on Tuesday.

    Who knew?

  32. 32.

    Kelly

    Just finished my ballot for the Oregon May 15 primary. I’ll drop it of at the library in the next couple days.

    Four contested judge races on my ballot. I find voting for judges kinda weird. Also DA’s, sheriffs all the law enforcement positions. While considering my choices this afternoon I decided lower court judges should be nominated by the executive branch and confirmed by legislative branch. This is the way it works at the federal level. My strange idea is that appellate judges all the way up to the Supremes should be decided by the sitting judges.

  34. 34.

    B.B.A.

    @Brachiator: He seems intent to prove his brother wasn’t the most absurd figure in the history of Canadian politics after all.

  35. 35.

    Kathleen

    @buck2202: OK. I posted CNN’s breathless segment that claims Kucinich already won and progressives are taking over Ohio. Now WaPo. Does this coordinated script lauding the Anti Dems strike anyone else as “interestting”?

    ETA Meant to add I’ve heard great things about Kathleen Clyde, Dem candidate for Sec of State.

  38. 38.

    buck2202

    @efgoldman: Not seeing results at this level yet, but I live in the district he was gerrymandered out of (though I didn’t during his time). I’d love it if he can’t even carry that.

  39. 39.

    Jeffro

    Where’s the thread on all this Russian money being funneled to Cohen (and hence to Trumpov)?

  41. 41.

    Kathleen

    @efgoldman: He’s rollin’ on the river in the great beyond while Nina is trollin’ on the twitters.

    I saw a documentary about Ike (maybe Unsung?) and some folks were saying he got a bad rap because of Tina Turner’s book and movie. While he wasn’t an angel, he claims the more violent scenes in the movie did not happen.

  45. 45.

    Platonailedit

    @Baud: Yup. Cordray is blowing away that permanent dem grifter & griper kucinich by nearly 3 to 1. Kay must be happy tonight.

  47. 47.

    Kathleen

    @efgoldman: True. Baud still has his BJ Baudettes. and Poco, if he can refrain from butt sniffing (which given today’s political landscape butt sniffing will work in his favor). Referring to Poco, not Baud.

  51. 51.

    Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)

    Last night on “The Opposition” (ex-Daily Show correspondent, pretending to be Trumpist as host) they interviewed Cordray. At the end, the guy doing the interview said if you want someone to fight for the consumer, Cordray’s your guy. I agreed, but I was surprised at what felt almost like an ad.

  53. 53.

    buck2202

    @Kathleen: In Cuyahoga county in particular, there’s a lot of contention between the official party and “progressive” orgs this cycle. I didn’t find myself universally behind either of their endorsements. FWIW, the Cleveland Plain Dealer (most decidedly not a progressive publication) endorsed Kucinich. I’m not sure if its anti-dem, pro-horserace (DeWine/Taylor also got a lot more hype than seems to have been warranted), or just overestimation of Our Revolution influence.

    I was pleasantly surprised that Bernie didn’t personally endorse to counter Warren/Cordray, even if our rev did.

  54. 54.

    magurakurin

    @Baud:

    The 2020 election is going to be miserable.

    truer words have never been spoken. I look to it with utter fear and loathing.

  55. 55.

    Paula

    @Baud: Kucinich on FOX was certainly a deal-breaker for me! I am very pleased Cordray not just won but won big. Joe Schiavoni, coming in third, had some merit but I REALLY DIDN”T WANT Kucinich and I’m glad it wasn’t a close contest.

    I’m also thrilled DeWine beat his opponent BIG – she was running as a Trumpista and is awful. I don’t like DeWine at all but Mary Taylor is significantly worse. I think her defeat is a good sign the Trump “magic” may be fading on the right.

  56. 56.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: For a minute, I thought you were talking abut the election results. Now I think you are talking about election season rather than results. I concur.

  61. 61.

    magurakurin

    @Baud: The results will be knife edge as usually. I think the primary on the Dem side might not be so bad, because I believe Sanders will bern out early on. He and his stans badly underestimate the bad blood that is out there for them. In no way will it be a Clinton/Sanders do over. In no way.

    But the general campaign. That is going to be a shit show of epic proportions. Pure horror.

  62. 62.

    efgoldman

    @Baud:

    after Roger Stone takes down all the other candidates,

    Even Roger can’t fuck rats from jail. Except the real ones.

  63. 63.

    Baud

    @magurakurin: I tend to agree he will flame out early, but who knows? It’s hard to believe it won’t be nasty regardless, and the media will be awful.

  66. 66.

    Kraux Pas

    @Baud:

    the media will be awful.

    Water will be wet, haters gonna hate, the sun will rise and set…

  68. 68.

    magurakurin

    @Baud:

    and the media will be awful.

    okay…you just spoke truer words…so I was wrong about that earlier…

    yep, gonna be awful, all down the line

  72. 72.

    buck2202

    @Major Major Major Major: I caught this today. Still in the style section

    Talman wasnā€™t having it. ā€œVindicated to who?ā€ he repeated. And what was my answer? Vindicated to history, perhaps. But whose history? After chatting with Talman, I could read the headline his way, too.

    As we continued to talk, I realized that two more words were heavily influencing how Talman thought about the story: Donald Trump. Talman voted for Hillary Clinton. He liked Bernie Sanders a lot but considered him ā€œflawed,ā€ ā€œa one-trick pony.ā€ He thought Clinton had her own flaws, but nothing compared with Trumpā€™s. Talmanā€™s strong feelings about Trump made ā€œvindicationā€ hard for him to concede to Kucinich. After losing his seat in Congress, after all, Kucinich had become a Fox News commentator. He had used that platform to express support for certain positions advocated by Trump. To Talman, this was unpardonable. ā€œTrump is a vile candidate, a vile president, a vile man,ā€ he said. ā€œTo have Kucinich backing this monster in any way, itā€™s really hard to swallow.ā€ My conversation with Talman made me think about how many discussions among friends, colleagues, family members and strangers these days are hijacked by the fundamental question of where we stand on Trump.

    A good headline is a bold distillation of what a story will deliver with more detail and nuance. I knew that associating a character like Dennis Kucinich with ā€œvindicationā€ would be provocative, but I thought it was honest, too. And yet, where the headline writers and I detected an elegant argument to be made about an ideological convergence embodied in Kucinich, Talman saw an unwarranted reward for a politician who was soft on Trump ā€” a political apostasy that nothing could vindicate.

    So…author gets enough angry comments that a follow-up makes sense; author opines on Trump (unfairly?) being a conversation ender; fin.

  73. 73.

    lollipopguild

    @Kathleen: Maybe Baud likes to sniff butt also but has not told us yet. He may be playing hard to get or he may be coy.

  74. 74.

    TenguPhule

    The ink wasn’t even dry on this @WHO #Ebola announcement before @POTUS #Trump cut all $252 million in Ebola emergency response funding today.

    Reposted from Cheryl in a dead thread down two.

  77. 77.

    magurakurin

    @Major Major Major Major:

    You could be right, but, yeah, I think he will…if he isn’t 6 feet under, that is. His ego is too huge and I am willing to wager that he feels cheated and that he would have won. Not sure if the DNC will let him…but I suppose that letting him run is the better play. Let him run and be squashed rather than bar him and make him a martyr.

  80. 80.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Cordray is a really good guy. Smart as hell as well. I would also be totally shocked if there was any hint of scandal in his background.

  81. 81.

    efgoldman

    @Baud:

    the media will be awful.

    The one absolutely true part of your predication.
    Don’t discount the possibility of outside events influencing things. The likelihood of a heavily Dem house after two years of investigations and subpoenas; indictments and convictions of Weasel Face’s enablers, and some RWNJ (by then former) congresscritters; and a paralyzed senate.

  82. 82.

    TenguPhule

    @efgoldman:

    Even Roger canā€™t fuck rats from jail. Except the real ones.

    Drug lords & Mafia heads are perfectly capable of running things from inside.

  83. 83.

    BruceFromOhio

    Ohio Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown is the real deal. He is exactly what we need in the US Senate right now, for Ohio and for America. And now he’s up against two-bit ratfuck soulless criminal ladder climbing son of a bitch Renacci, a deep-well Dumpster Fire acolyte if ever there was. And it saddens me that so many of my fine Ohio neighbors will believe the crap that will spew forth from this man. And Ohio is supposedly some kind of bellwether. Gaia save us all.

  85. 85.

    efgoldman

    @Baud:

    I hope thereā€™s a special something something in Cohenā€™s files about old Roger.

    Roger has files, too, starting with bank and tax records.

  86. 86.

    TenguPhule

    @B.B.A.:

    Running a man could only hurt our cred with the anti-sexual-assult crowd.

    i’m sorry to tell you this, we can’t rely on the sane people. We need a majority.

  88. 88.

    TenguPhule

    @Baud:

    We are in uncharted territory.

    Uncharted for America. Variations on a theme for Europe.

  91. 91.

    tobie

    @Kathleen: Even tonight, Susan Page was opining that progressive Kucinich could give establishment Cordray a run for the money. It’s amazing to see in real time just how much the press has propped up BS and OurRevolution. Sanders’ supporters may be vocal but they are not numerous.

  93. 93.

    Kraux Pas

    @Major Major Major Major: I’m betting on a packed field in 2020. There’s bound to be someone better suited to represent his segment of the electorate. I’m hoping for an Elizabeth Warren run, personally.

  94. 94.

    BruceFromOhio

    @TenguPhule:

    Drug lords & Mafia heads are perfectly capable of running things from inside.

    Born from honor, and loyalty, and the crew taking care of the family while the guys are inside. Pretty certain Roger demonstrates none of these qualities.

  97. 97.

    J R in WV

    According to the WV Sec of State’s web page, Blankenship is running a distant third in a six person race. So that’s good. I don’t care about the strategy of the general election, Don Blankenship is a filthy piece of crap who should be serving 29 consecutive manslaughter cases at least.

    He wrote memos to his foremen drumming the beat of don’t perform any tasks that interfere with moving coal, meaning safety work, removing loose coal and coal dust from beltways, preventing coal dust at the active faces where coal is being dog out of the mountain, don’t do that work, move coal, that’s all anyone working for me should be doing.

    We’ve known how to prevent mine explosions for over a hundred years, and how to prevent Black Lung Disease nearly as long. But it costs a tiny percentage of the cost of operating the mines, so Don and his fellow coal barons don’t want to spend the few cents a ton safety costs, they would rather murder their employees every so often.

    I don’t want him thinking he could tweak his message and try again in a couple of years. He should go back to Las Vegas NV where he actually lives and never come back here. And with his sorry third place finish that looks more likely.

    He’s despicable. His housekeeper had to sue him for refusing to pay her overtime when he added another (huge) house to her cleaning chores. No hole too low for these guys!

  98. 98.

    BruceFromOhio

    @Baud: They know it is do or die, take nothing for granted. And the people supporting him and helping him are extremely motivated. The only barrier to the dumpster fire spreading to every single thing is a Democratic majority in the Senate. No apologies.

  104. 104.

    cintibud

    @PsiFighter37:

    Does anyone from Ohio think Cordray can beat DeWine in the general? I know DeWine was weak sauce back in 2006 when Sherrod Brown booted him, but no idea if heā€™s any better now

    DeWine seems to strike a lot of people of a “reasonable republican” like Rob Portman so it was good that every day the past couple of weeks I saw him express his undying love of Donald Trump, his promise to rip away health care from thousands by eliminating the Medicaid expansion and his demonetization of “drug selling” immigrants in “illegal sanctuary cities”. That plays well with the base but a very large number of Ohioans are over that bullshit.

  105. 105.

    debbie

    @Baud:

    Cordray’s no surprise, but I’m hoping the turnout is large enough to scare the GOP.

  107. 107.

    efgoldman

    @Ruckus:

    Iā€™m thinking that Chaffee is/was actually better than Kucinich

    He’s not a bad guy; but flipping from Repub to Independent to Dem will get him no favors; and he’s challenging a hugely popular and way more than competent senator (no matter what his polls say). Go home, Linc.

  108. 108.

    BruceFromOhio

    @J R in WV:

    I donā€™t care about the strategy of the general election, Don Blankenship is a filthy piece of crap who should be serving 29 consecutive manslaughter cases at least.

    This, this, this.

  109. 109.

    Ruckus

    @Major Major Major Major:
    And look at OH and Mary Taylor. It’s not enough just to have a woman running, Mary is horrible no matter her gender. I’d like to see more women running, but I’d also like to see some one running for CA senator next time that wasn’t a thousand yrs old.

  111. 111.

    Major Major Major Major

    @Kraux Pas: I donā€™t find her captivating at all, unlike many folks. I donā€™t get it. I like her but ??ā€ā™‚ļø

    Gonna try to just wait and see how the next year shakes out before I start having too much of an opinion.

  112. 112.

    Mnemosyne

    @buck2202:

    And yet, where the headline writers and I detected an elegant argument to be made about an ideological convergence embodied in Kucinich … (emphasis mine)

    This does seem to be the issue, yes — the writer was pushing Kucinich as the progressive Donald Trump (hates immigrants, loves the white working class!) and Democrats called him on his bullshit and reminded him that Trump is a fucking white supremacist. Reporters really hate when you tell them that the emperor does not actually have new clothes and all the pretty prose in the world can’t change that.

  113. 113.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    (((Harry Enten)))
    ā€Verified account @ForecasterEnten

    Blowout in Ohio Gov. Cordray up by 36! points! over Kucinich with 100k votes in.

    33 replies 116 retweets 360 likes

    Hard to believe Kucinich is losing so badly after receiving support from Our Revolution and Nina Turner.

    Oh well. “TrueProgressive” Kucinich can go back to representing Assad and Murdoch.

  115. 115.

    buck2202

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Don’t forget these parts

    Kucinich received $20,000 to speak at a London conference of the Association for Investment in Popular Action Committees, an event that critics derided as propaganda for the Assad regime. The CEO of that association is also a board member of the nonprofit Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. (Kucinich is returning the $20,000 fee.)

    The candidate has also questioned special counsel Robert Muellerā€™s investigation into the Trump campaign, saying it had a ā€œhigh BS quotient.ā€ He serves on an advisory board of the Ron Paul Institute, alongside Lew Rockwell, who ghost-wrote Paulā€™s infamous newsletter. He has appeared dozens of times on the RT news channel, which is funded by the Russian government. He called President Barack Obamaā€™s decision to bomb Libya in 2011 an ā€œimpeachable offense.ā€ And heā€™s echoed Trumpā€™s concerns about the so-called deep state and praised his inaugural address.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dennis-kucinich-ohio-democrats_us_5aea2ab7e4b06748dc8f303b

  116. 116.

    Ruckus

    @magurakurin:
    I think that’s the wrong play, letting BS run as a dem. He’s proven that he’s not fit to make the claim just to run against an actual dem. He’s shown no loyalty to the party that accepted him once before, he’s getting on to a thousand yrs old and no way does he have the stamina for the office for 4 yrs. And you know he’d pick himself as VP, that’s how full of himself that he is.

  117. 117.

    BruceFromOhio

    @cintibud: Dear Gaia, please let it be true, let it be TRUE! DeWine is the grifter no one really remembers, because he’s just an ordinary looking guy that hides the stone cold heart of a two-bit ratfuck soulless criminal. That makes him harder to beat. Cordray has been around a bit too, can totally put him down and send him packing once more and forever. There’s going to be headwind from entrenched Dumpster Fire acolytes with deep pockets, and out of state money from the billionaires. Deep breath.

  118. 118.

    J R in WV

    @TenguPhule:

    The ink wasnā€™t even dry on this @WHO #Ebola announcement before @POTUS #Trump cut all $252 million in Ebola emergency response funding today.

    That right there should get that evil man impeached in any civil society. There is no limit to the evil he does for pleasure, none. He wants helpless people to die at his hands. Beyond despicable! I have no words left for this evil doer.

  120. 120.

    Kraux Pas

    @Major Major Major Major: I’ve loved Warren since before she ever ran for office, often sharing her speeches about declining family incomes and potential solutions. I was ecstatic when I got a chance to vote for her for Senate.

    Honestly, I’m ready to vote for any of my home state (MA) Dems whose names tend to come up in conversations about 2020. Deval Patrick would have a pretty good draw for my vote too, though I consider him less likely to run (and neither especially likely TBH). That’s not to say there isn’t plenty of out-of-state talent,

  122. 122.

    Kathleen

    @buck2202: I regret to say that I’ve not been involved so far with Hamilton County Democratic Party so I don’t know what’s playing out down here (Ohio Mom or Alt Fax probably have better handle on that). I plan to rejoin and work for Cordray, Brown and a great candidate for Ohio 1st who has a good chance of vanquishing Congressman Combover.

  123. 123.

    Jager

    @Baud: I think you should launch your campaign from Baudette, MN while fishing for walleyes from a boat on Lake of the Woods with a can of beer in your hand.. Small town America (population 1100), Hard working and hardy stock. Baudette is scenic, rustic, piney woods and white, white, white, except for those pesky local Chippewas.

  124. 124.

    Kathleen

    @Paula: Taylor was just awful. I never paid attention to her until her ads came out. Dreadful, hateful woman.

  125. 125.

    magurakurin

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Worked great last time.

    Fair point. But I do think the dynamic will be quite different this time. There won’t be any “anti-somebody” vote to grab. The field will be diverse and will include some younger, fresher faces. Sanders might well be forced to retire the field after South Carolina with only a handful of delegates and money drying up.

    but, yeah, lot’s of dread…

  126. 126.

    MAC

    Oh, thank FSM that Kusinich isn’t winning. He’s a crank, and a lot of independents (such as my father) hate him with a passion. Cordray will appeal to them, especially if he can hang Trump around DeWines neck.

    Now wish me luck as I try to convince my independent father that Renacci is completely awful.

  127. 127.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @Ruckus:

    heā€™s getting on to a thousand yrs old and no way does he have the stamina for the office for 4 yrs.

    Oh, don’t worry. His age isn’t an issue since he keeps himself in such great shape according to the Huffington Post!

  132. 132.

    Ruckus

    @BruceFromOhio:
    I am violently against the death penalty. But I’d make an exception in Don’s case. Hell I’d pull the switch, turn the gas knob, push the syringe, tie the knot…….. myself.

  134. 134.

    Capri

    Very glad to see that POS Rokita going down in Indiana. The winner in the Republican run for senate was pilloried by the other candidates for voting in the Democratic primaries occasionally. The voters didn’t find the dem.s radioactive, which is great to know.

  135. 135.

    Platonailedit

    @debbie: As of now, the OH dems turnout is about 150K less than the rethugs. May be Kay can tell us what it means for the general. I would have liked to see a blue wave even in primaries.

  138. 138.

    cintibud

    @BruceFromOhio:

    DeWine is the grifter no one really remembers, because heā€™s just an ordinary looking guy that hides the stone cold heart of a two-bit ratfuck soulless criminal. That makes him harder to beat.

    Had to quote you because that’s a great description of DeWine. Mr. Ordinary however just spent weeks on the airwaves sparring with Mary Taylor about just who was going to be the bigger asshole. I think there’s a lot of good ad material in those hate-offs that Cordray will put to good use.

    We will definitely need to put up with howler monkeys flinging poo though from here to Nov though.

  140. 140.

    Mike in NC

    NC House race is a snoozefest. Two Democrats, two Republicans, and two Libertarians. Incumbent GOP clown is an elderly Tea Party type who sent out a mailing bragging about his life membership as an NRA terrorist who also has a concealed carry permit.

  141. 141.

    Kathleen

    @tobie: I think something very sinister underlies these coordinated scripts.Slanders and the media are hell bent on discrediting and attacking Democrats who actually get shit done.

  145. 145.

    Kathleen

    @buck2202: I don’t think turnout was heavy in my precinct. Hamilton County/Cincinnati are pretty blue, though. Supported Obama in 2008 and 2012 and went big for Hillary in 2016.

  147. 147.

    J R in WV

    @Ruckus:

    I’m also not into the death penalty, normally. There is nothing normal about the evil acts of Donald Blankenship and the 29 murders he committed.

  149. 149.

    Kraux Pas

    @Ruckus:

    I am violently against the death penalty. But Iā€™d make an exception in Donā€™s case. Hell Iā€™d pull the switch, turn the gas knob, push the syringe, tie the knotā€¦ā€¦.. myself.

    Death would be too easy, prison sounds better to me. If that doesn’t adequately serve justice, I recommend a a vigorous national debate about the fate of his corpse.

  152. 152.

    debbie

    @Kathleen:

    Did you see her ad saying that DeWine voted with Clinton 962 times? I don’t think she was in the Senate long enough to vote that often.

  153. 153.

    Kathleen

    @buck2202: Hamilton County uses paper ballots. We then put our ballot through a scanner. I’m still concerned about tabulation being screwed with.

  154. 154.

    Kraux Pas

    @Platonailedit:

    s of now, the OH dems turnout is about 150K less than the rethugs.

    Did we just find the missing Kucinich voters? Maybe they were abducted by aliens?

  155. 155.

    cintibud

    @Platonailedit: Not much excitement in the Dem primary down here in SW Ohio. No one down here considered Kusinich anything more than a crank. Meanwhile there was a ton of money spent by DeWine and Taylor and from an ad standpoint it looked like a toss up. More “excitement” on the GOP side

  156. 156.

    buck2202

    @Kathleen: I had a 20 minute line…there were a grand total of TWO pollbook/tablet things for 3 precincts with ~3000 eligible voters. Scanned paper ballots here too…statewide? But I like that more than purely electronic.

  157. 157.

    Kathleen

    @debbie: I thought it was hilarious that she was trying to paint him as a Clinton/Pelosi liberal! I also found it very interesting how Taylor was blatantly pandering to the base. ETA And make shit up.

  158. 158.

    Kathleen

    @buck2202: Wow. Only my precinct votes at my designated polling place. They’ve changed voting locations and redistricted my precinct several times in the past few years.

  161. 161.

    BruceFromOhio

    @Platonailedit: Speculating, but Sen Brown uncontested will keep a few souls out. And many of the races on my ballot today were uncontested. The draw is local issues, and that works for D, R or I. Locally, my poll was doing decent business due to a township rezoning issue. While the vote totals are “an” indicator, there are not “the” indicator. In contrast, as we’ve heard elsewhere, come November it is ALL about turnout.

  164. 164.

    satby

    They seem to be reporting that the nuttiest of the nutty Republicans running in the Senate primary won, Mike Braun. Crazy race with all three of them calling each other liberals and secret Democrats. Braun will face incumbent Blue Dog Donnelley (D) in November. I know a lot of the Indivisible group was talking about crossing over to vote for whichever Republican would be too extreme, no idea how many did.
    Edit, this is IN.

  165. 165.

    PaulWartenberg

    @PsiFighter37:

    If Blankenship had won the nomination, it would have been a horrifying situation for ALL parties involved. Despite the odds of a general election leaning away from a convicted SOB like him, West Virginia overall is skewed towards the conservative mindset to where a guy like Manchin can run as a Democrat but has to run as far Right as possible to stay in office. While whoever wins the GOP nomination will be a complete wingnut asshole, at least he won’t be as EVIL as Blankenship.

    It’s a small blessing, but gods help us we need every one in this day and age.

  169. 169.

    Brendan in NC

    @Mike in NC: having a lot of fun in my neck of the woods…Pittenger lost in a squeaker…The race for Mecklenburg County Sheriff, on the other hand, was a blowout. Incumbent Dem (older white guy) will finish 3rd in a 3 man race. Other 2 Dems are African Americans, and they both ran on ending the 287(g) program here in Charlotte

  171. 171.

    buck2202

    @BruceFromOhio: The total vote gap seems to be growing, unfortunately. But I think polling was that something like 40% were undecided for dem governor…could be a combo of that and Sherrod unopposed?

  172. 172.

    Paula

    @cintibud:

    so it was good that every day the past couple of weeks I saw him express his undying love of Donald Trump…

    Yes! Hope Cordray uses it and it comes back to haunt DeWine. Also DeWine is also not charismatic AT ALL.

  173. 173.

    Paula

    @Mnemosyne:

    This does seem to be the issue, yes ā€” the writer was pushing Kucinich as the progressive Donald Trump (hates immigrants, loves the white working class!) and Democrats called him on his bullshit and reminded him that Trump is a fucking white supremacist. Reporters really hate when you tell them that the emperor does not actually have new clothes and all the pretty prose in the world canā€™t change that.

    Yes.

  174. 174.

    Paula

    @BruceFromOhio:

    Cordray has been around a bit too, can totally put him down and send him packing once more and forever. Thereā€™s going to be headwind from entrenched Dumpster Fire acolytes with deep pockets, and out of state money from the billionaires. Deep breath.

    This ^^^

  178. 178.

    buck2202

    On Ohio vote gap: GOP Sen vote totals are ~60k less than GOP Gov. What’s that about?

  181. 181.

    sdhays

    @PaulWartenberg: It doesn’t matter since he lost, but for a legislative seat, I just don’t see how X Republican from WV can be “worse” than Y Republican from WV. Sure, Blankenship is further along the asymptote of pure evil than Morrisey (probably), but I don’t think he would be a considerably worse Senator than Morrisey. The fact is, they don’t really disagree on anything of substance; Morrisey just hasn’t killed anyone.

    For executive positions, I think it makes sense to be cautious about setting up the worst guy to maybe win because that person will have a lot freer hand to do a lot of damage (of which we currently have abundant, ongoing, examples), but for legislative positions, it’s the party that defines the bulk of the evil, so it makes sense to hope for the worst for your opponent to increase your odds of success.

  182. 182.

    buck2202

    @Omnes Omnibus: lack of interest in 3+ way races? Or that renacci seemed more of a sure thing? High undecideds not breaking anywhere at all? I dunno. Hard for me to imagine holding a partisan-primary ballot in hand and not voting in both of the two top-ticket races.

    Primary elections are the party-change opportunity in Ohio, though..maybe 60k non-repubs just really, really hated Mary Taylor.

  184. 184.

    Platonailedit

    @buck2202:

    Primary elections are the party-change opportunity in Ohio, though..maybe 60k non-repubs just really, really hated Mary Taylor.

    As good as an explanation, as any. Thanks.

  185. 185.

    Aleta

    Sarah Lerner @SarahLerner

    Rachel Crooks, who alleged that Donald Trump kissed her without her consent in 2005 when she was working as a receptionist in Trump Tower, secured her primary bid for state office in Ohio.

    Alexandra De Luca @AlexDe_Luca

    The story of tonight isnā€™t the GOPā€™s failure to elect another white nationalist to their ranks. The story is the wave of pro-choice Democratic woman who absolutely crushed their primaries – and who are going to flip record seats in November.

  186. 186.

    seaninclt

    @Mike in NC: Nah – watching Pittenger outduel Harris for who loves Trump more is a pleasure to behold. Dan McCready is a strong candidate for this district and matches pretty well with most of the people here. But, maybe, snoozefest is the right word…

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