It started raining yesterday afternoon and has been pouring off and on — mostly on — ever since. I like when it rains, but this deluge is ill-timed as it has disrupted our puppy potty training regimen. It turns out Mr. Badger doesn’t care for the rain, so on our round-the-clock trips outdoors, he presses himself into the door frame when it’s raining and refuses to budge.
At approximately 3 AM, I was standing outside in a steady downpour attempting to demonstrate via nonchalance that it’s perfectly fine to be rained on in the middle of the night. The dog was unconvinced and stuck to the door until I finally gave up and went back inside with him. He didn’t poop or pee in the house, though, so I guess it counts as a success?
Anyway, open thread.
Ohio Mom
He’s a smart one.
Trentrunner
CNN analyst, as part of a report on Melania’s hospitalization, spoke of “the mystique of Melania.”
“Mystique”?
I’ve (unwillingly!) seen more of Melania than I’ve seen of most of my sex partners.
There’s no “mystique.” She’s a former escort call girl and sex model who aspired to trophy-wife and got in way, way over her head.
The Moar You Know
My dog, back in the day, was totally OK with rain. What the poor little guy was not expecting, on his first night home, was for the sprinklers to go off when he was trying to do his business at 2AM. Right under him!
Poor little guy loves getting wet, but still jumps when he hears sprinklers go off. I would too.
Alain the site fixer
Hallelujah
RobertDSC-iPhone 6
Cute as can be.
Hungry Joe
Since pooping and/or peeing in the house counts as a failure, NOT pooping and/or peeing in the house must count as a success.
trollhattan
That face cracks me up. You know who else cracks me up? People batting Tomi Lahren around like a pinata after she opines on underedjamacated immigrants.
Jager
Since you didn’t answer my question in the previous thread, “in the trump version of the 10 Commandments golden calf scene who plays the Edward G. Robinson character Dathan?
efgoldman
@The Moar You Know:
Sprinklers?
The deity in which I don’t believe put the
grassweeds and dandelions there, let her water themHumdog
Aww, Badger thinks he is made of sugar and will melt away in the rain. What a cute expression he seems to always have. I’d have a tough time disciplining him. Good thing he didn’t need any “bad dog” today!
geg6
I’m with Badger on this one.
Corner Stone
Guys, I don’t mean to scare anyone but this article has me completely aroused right now. Don’t act like you’re not impressed!
CrainsDetroit link (I know that’s where Fournier is but you HAVE to skim this!)
How my president’s tariffs would cripple my company
” I am a business owner, a proud Republican, and a voter who supports President Donald Trump’s campaign to level U.S. trade imbalances.
I am also angry, frustrated and a little scared, because the unintended consequences of the president’s $50 billion tariffs on China would cripple my business in Auburn Hills and strip my 50 employees of their good-paying jobs.
This is crazy.”
Mary G
For that cute face, I’d try an umbrella.
Aleta
Such an innocent soul, another dog who can do no wrong. : )
efgoldman
@Corner Stone:
It’s not like there’s no remedy. Does the klown know his congresscritter? Any of his senators’ staffs? Does he fucking vote?
ETA: Y’all got some strange kinks
TenguPhule
@Corner Stone:
/The Scream
Miss Bianca
Watson is doing pretty well in the house breaking department, but we are still having some pee in the house problems, primarily when it’s time for me to leave the house and poor D ends up holding the leash, *and* cleaning up the pee. Apparently Watson is under the impression that D is some kind of malevolent Giant, and pees himself in terror when I leave – oh, no! Alone with the Giant! If anyone has some good tips for overcoming Puppy Fear of the Man, do share!
TenguPhule
@efgoldman:
Common clay of the west.
Betty Cracker
@Jager: I’m not sure, but I’ll tell you my favorite Edward G. Robinson anecdote instead. He was great friends with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall. When those two got married, Robinson walked Bacall down the aisle. The ceremony was about to begin, and Robinson was waiting for Bacall to emerge from the ladies room upstairs, where she was getting ready. Someone discreetly signaled to Robinson to escort Bacall to the alter, and Bacall said he replied — in a very loud voice — “Justa minute! She’s still in da CAN!”
efgoldman
@TenguPhule: Shouldn’t you and NotMax be out cornering the pumice market?
Yutsano
BADGERPUPPEH!!!
So since our work went to appointment only things have slowed way down in the office since the end of filing season. Even the things that should be keeping us busy aren’t rolling in. Hell we’re not even getting the stray “I need help with this” traffic we usually do. It’s weird. Not bad right before my vacation but just…weird.
@Corner Stone: WTF did I just read there?
Miss Bianca
@Corner Stone: no, what’s “crazy” is that this tool somehow thought that having Trump as President *wasn’t* going to cripple his fucking company, the US economy, world trade, and the world in general. Nah, not getting out of the boat.
Chris T.
Training tool: take dog outside, wait for dog to go, then take dog on walk. Dog thinks of “walk” as “fun time”, and learns that fun time happens after pooping outside. If you take dog on walk, wait for pooping, then turn around and go home, dog learns that fun time ends after pooping…
trollhattan
@Betty Cracker:
Hilarious! Can you just imagine?
Here’s a possible GIF to accompany the next Mueller post. I need Mueller Time.
trollhattan
@Chris T.:
Our pup didn’t really require much training (such a smart boy, who’s a smart boy?) but he holds it on walks and then bolts to the backyard when we get home. So many miles toting so many unused baggies. Something got short-circuited along the line, I guess.
Major Major Major Major
Kyewt doggo! Per usual.
Today I learned about habitat destruction faced by the greater glider, Australia’s flying “clumsy possum.”
In other news I got the newest draft of my short story off to the editor today.
Yutsano
@Miss Bianca: Her company. Which just makes it sadder to me. She’s acting all wrapped up in his bullshit. Maybe she should learn what MAGA means the hard way.
The Moar You Know
@Miss Bianca: This is submissive urination, which is totally different than regular house soiling. Don’t discipline for this.
TenguPhule
@efgoldman: Also, the idiot in question is a woman.
TenguPhule
@efgoldman: Wrong Islands.
CliosFanBoyNeeWoodrowfan
my little wiener dog (9 years old) may be having back problems again (he’s had two operations before) so it’s back to the vet today. fingers crossed…
TenguPhule
@Miss Bianca: Her. Its a woman.
Corner Stone
@Miss Bianca: If you won’t read then I shall force it upon thee!
It’s a woman who inherited her dad’s manufacturing business. He worked for GM for years and *surprise* received many manufacturing contracts after he started the business. All the hinges are forged in CHINA, then shipped to MI, where the “good paying” jobs open, inspect and repackage, then ship to Jeep.
She’s complaining because she wants an exception *just for her* so 90% of her CHINA manufactured business doesn’t get caught in the tariffs.
IOW, she wanted to fuck every other person over with her vote.
El Caganer
@Jager: Roger Stone?
Major Major Major Major
@CliosFanBoyNeeWoodrowfan: best of luck!
Betty Cracker
@The Moar You Know: Poor thing!
@trollhattan: I like the way everyone makes up stupid names for her instead of calling her by her own stupid name.
The Moar You Know
@Corner Stone: I love the refusal to acknowledge that the president is a shambling idiot, she just thinks he’s “making a mistake” and doesn’t regret him being president at all. Fuck her business. I hope she goes bankrupt.
Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party is just too easy, but it’s right there.
rikyrah
Badger is soooo cute :)
rp
Bostons hate rain. And snow, sleet, winds, temps below 60, temps above 85…
They basically like it to be 75-80 and sunny, with low humidity and a nice breeze.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Corner Stone: Fuck that fool’s feelings. He injured not just himself but all the rest of us. (ETA: OK, she injured herself. Equal opportunity stupidity.)
Also, I blogged about genre bigotry, something Mnem mentioned a few days ago. There are good and bad books on every shelf in B&N, including the YA shelves and the romance ones.
efgoldman
@TenguPhule:
You got no boats?
trollhattan
@Yutsano: She inherited the company from good old dad, so she’s a Koch or a Trump in this scenario.
MagdaInBlack
What a sweet faced little guy he is ?
Thank you for that refreshment ✨
Mnemosyne
@Betty Cracker:
I was going to say, “You can take the boy out of New York …” but then I looked it up and Robinson, Bacall, and Bogart were all native New Yorkers.
Robinson was way more versatile of an actor than he gets credit for these days — my favorite role of his is in Double Indemnity. He did his long speech about the various statistical methods of suicide in the first take, and the crew applauded.
Jager
@Betty Cracker: I was fortunate to have dinner with Lauren Bacall. My morning guy in Boston knew her from his time on Broadway in New York. (He was in Stalag 17 on stage and played the skinny Lt on Sgt Bilko) She was in Boston raising production $$ for Woman of the Year. Jess got off the air one morning sat down at my desk and said, “You want to have dinner tonight with Lauren Bacall and me?” Great fun, beautiful lady with a million stories. She was seated with her back to the fireplace and it amplified her incredible voice all over the dining room. I called my mother the next day, mom said, “Sure you did.” She insisted I call her Betty too.
catclub
@Yutsano: I hope the letters point out that Trump is too busy saving Chinese company ZTE to worry about her company.
She needs to hire Chinese president Xi as her lobbyist.
efgoldman
@rp:
Then they picked the wrong damned city, didn’t they? Maybe they should have been called “San Diego Terriers”
Barbara
@Yutsano: Her solution is to be granted an exemption. So, really, the classic IGMFY dressed up in a female entrepreneur’s clothing.
geg6
@The Moar You Know:
Yes, Koda had that when I first got her. The only way to stop is to wait it out. Most dogs eventually grow out of it. Koda has, but it took a good 3 years or so. You should never, ever, ever discipline a doggo who has this problem.
rikyrah
Why no financial reports from Our Revolution???
https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/996091980420714499?s=19
Yutsano
@trollhattan: That somehow does nothing to enhance my sympathy for her. Then again we’re talking about a divide by zero situation so…
@catclub: Yeah if you’re in the Commerce or Treasury department trying to impose those sanctions you’re in major WTF territory right now.
efgoldman
@rikyrah:
We’ll see them right after Wilmer releases the JOINT tax returns
WaterGirl
Betty, it rained 9 of the 10 days this spring that I was taking care of my niece’s two 4-month old pups in addition to my own. for the math lovers, that’s 16 paws times 1,000 trips outside every day times 9 days.
I laughed out loud at this, because I lived it. I have to say it’s funnier reading about it than it was living it. Night after night after night. Your pup is so adorable that it helps, I’m sure. What a sweetie.
trollhattan
@Jager:
That’s so cool. This will always be my go-to Bacall photo.
JeanneT
Pet related bleg! Last week I posted a note about a research experiment on dog genetics that is tracking down which genes changed to make dogs friendly toward humans (as opposed to wary of humans, as wolves are). I’m happy to report that the experiment is only $1000 short of reaching its funding goal. If you love dogs and science, please go check out the research and pledge a few $$$: https://experiment.com/projects/what-genes-make-domestic-dogs-friendlier-than-wolves
chris
Such a cutie! Bert the amazing water dog with webbed feet for swimming in freezing ocean doesn’t like the rain either so Badger’s in good company.
trollhattan
@Yutsano:
In case she’s building a “we built this city on rock and roll” legend for herself I’m not having it for one minute. Her closing is a doozy, and show’s she’s not half as smart as she’d like us to believe.
Stuff it, lady, and start looking out for those workers you pretend to care about.
catclub
@Corner Stone: The comments there are great. I don’t think I saw any that agreed with the writer.
rikyrah
@Corner Stone:
Someone said that the comments were absolute gold at this article.
rikyrah
@trollhattan:
Those twitter streets have been dragging her FOR FILTH!!
And, I LOVE IT!!
catclub
@Yutsano: Somebody pointed out that ZTE is a funder of a certain project in Malaysia. Some gold-draped real estate monstrosity. Totally unrelated to the actions of Trump.
TenguPhule
@efgoldman:
Matson controls all inter island shipping.
rikyrah
@CliosFanBoyNeeWoodrowfan:
Sending positive thoughts :)
Mnemosyne
@Miss Bianca:
I saw an interesting article about why dogs can develop a fear of men and how to alleviate it. Basically, your roomie may be inadvertently doing things that scare the puppy, and should change how he interacts with him.
WaterGirl
@rp:
You have just described me. I am apparently a Boston terrier, and I had no idea. Not nearly as cute as badger, though.
sixthdoctor
@geg6: Slightly OT, but is Koda a goldendoodle by any chance? I met a couple with a doodle by that name and I’m wondering if I ran into a Juicer in meatspace without realizing it…
TenguPhule
@WaterGirl:
Was not the first clue when you found yourself in Boston? //
Corner Stone
@trollhattan: I’d like a few more numbers because ISTM she is getting stinking rich off this scam and is terrified *her* profit margin is going to take a hit. How much can you pay someone to “open, inspect, re-package and ship” to Jeep? Maybe somewhere around $10 an hour? With associated costs and some wiggle let’s say she spends sub $2M on employees. If her revenue is $40M, and she’s buying and importing from CHINA, I am wondering how much that could possibly be. Rent and overhead outside Detroit?
Betty Cracker
@Jager: Cool! I’ve always admired her in movies but didn’t know anything about her personal life until I read her autobiography, which I picked up randomly at a beach rental where I was staying many years ago. It was very amusing. I bet she was a hoot in person.
Corner Stone
@rikyrah: They are dragging that “proud Republican” Trump voter.
Roger Moore
@rikyrah:
Because Bernie showed them the idiots will still give them money even if they reveal nothing about their finances.
Mathguy
@Corner Stone: The comments to the piece are just brutal, and well-deserved.
VeniceRiley
@Betty Cracker: Lauren Bacall, right before she died, played a part in my good friend Tom Konkle’s noir indie detective movie “Trouble Is My Business” it was her last role.
HAL
RIP to the one, true Lois lane, Margot Kidder.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/14/entertainment/margot-kidder-superman-actress-dead/index.html
Kay
He’s cute. That photo at first glance looks like a curled forefinger with a dog nestled inside the curve. I thought you shrunk him down to dollhouse size.
Tenar Arha
@Corner Stone: This one got me earlier today.
I read it & said this:
Jager
@Betty Cracker: That she was. We talked about sailing, she told us some stories about she and Bogie’s boat Santana, shttps://youtu.be/yeCU0uaMUREailboat
jackmac
Allow me to rant about WaPo’s The Daily 202 email which arrived this morning. It offered reports on “three new deep dives into Donald Trump’s strength in Midwestern counties that were previously Democratic strongholds.”
The gist? Whiny, snowflake white middle class Trump voters in the Midwest (largely in Michigan and a couple in Illinois and elsewhere as cited in the reports) feel disrespected by multiculturalist “coastal elites”.
They “complain that there is no respect for President Trump or for people like them who voted for him,” according to a memo from Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg.
It’s tiresome to read report after report on people who repeatedly vote against their interests and have reaped the consequences as personal economic circumstances continue to decline.
So they adopt Trump as their economic and cultural savior (when he is shown to be anything but) and ingest a reinforcing media diet of right wing cable news, talk radio and web sites.
I have no sympathy for people who — in a lot of ways —are just like me: a 63-year-old middle class, white, family guy who lives in an Illinois county that’s part rural, part suburban and who’s worried about many of the same issues.
Here’s the difference. I have a working brain, decline to wallow in misery and perceived slights and vote accordingly. And there’s a lot of us out there.
Fair Economist
The joys of pet ownership! We got a rabbit a week ago and while he’s pretty good on peeing in his litter box, he doesn’t restrict his poops to the litterbox. Actually he doesn’t restrict his poops at all – they end up basically everywhere in his exercise pen, and throughout the house when we give him “around time”. Fortunately rabbit poops are pretty innocuous and we have a tile floor but still – ewww.
Major Major Major Major
The world’s stupidest drinking game lives on in the Trump administration
Ohio Mom
@Corner Stone: Reading the comments was very satisfying — they are tearing into her something fierce. Maybe if she reads “this is what you voted for” a few hundred times, it will sink in.
VeniceRiley
On dogs: My new rescue roommate, a chihuahua named Scrappy, is great at holding in the pee; but, ever since, in order to keep him from panic barking when I get home, I’ve been giving him a torn up turkey bacon treat … Now he only barks a little and gets a boner.
he’s adorbs though and colored like a tiny doberberman
Corner Stone
@Ohio Mom:
From what I have been told by NYT and other NeverTrumpers, this can only force her to become a Nazi.
Kay
@jackmac:
Well, there’s nothing to be done about it because no one knows what they want anyone to do about their hurt feelings – I have no idea. What do they want? We’re supposed to contact them and apologize or something? We’ve never done that for any other President’s supporters.
Why is it our job anyway? Maybe they should stop caring so much about what people think of them.
Major Major Major Major
@Tenar Arha: my favorite is still the trump voter whose undocumented immigrant husband got deported. She’s still a fan.
Kathleen
@Mary G: While talking on the phone with my daughter in Tampa yesterday she told me my granddog Scruffy refuses to do her business outside when it’s raining, which it was at the time. My daughter mused that umbrellas (“PupBrellas”) for dogs would be a great way for her to make a fortune. Unlike Badger, Scruffy will do her business in the house.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@jackmac: The data show that most likely predictor of a vote for Trump is racial anxiety. Why should I respect that?
Mnemosyne
@jackmac:
I can’t help but laugh when white people complain that others stopped respecting them because of their poor life choices. Where was their respect for poor mothers on welfare who likewise made poor decisions?
dexwood
@Mnemosyne:
Good article. Years ago, we had a sweet, small mutt, Cactus Jack, who exhibited submissive urination shortly after we adopted him. He was fine around my wife, but I was the problem with my tone of voice and sudden movements. Once I learned to change those triggers, his urination issues faded away.
Kay
@jackmac:
It’s not even offensive. It’s just annoying.
Did Obama supporters do this? “Everyone has to respect President Obama AND ME or I’m gonna complain for 4 years!”
They got their President. That’s all they get. It’s all anyone ever gets.
Roger Moore
@Kay:
They want the entire world to kiss their ass. At the very least, we’re supposed to shut up about what bigots they are and accept that refraining from using the N-word is proof they don’t have a racist bone in their bodies.
MomSense
During a few ice storms and a blizzard or two when it was not possible to go out, my pup ran to the bathroom with the large shower stall and peed over the drain. I consider it a clever solution and praise her when she does it.
JaneE
@Corner Stone: It really is too bad that the Trump tariffs will primarily hurt people who probably didn’t vote for him. She is screaming about her business, but she probably has a lot more money she can tap than any or all of her workers. The people at the bottom will have no income long before the people at the top feel the pain.
Yarrow
@Corner Stone: Ohhh…that comments on that article are delicious.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
Obviously didn’t like her husband as much as she thought she did.
geg6
@sixthdoctor:
No, she’s a chocolate Lab. In fact, she’s a Balloon Juice rescue.
Corner Stone
@Roger Moore: It can not be said enough. These are the proud, “Fuck Your Feelings” folks.
TenguPhule
@Kay:
Por Que Los Dos?
Mnemosyne
@Kay:
They feel that we did because we said that mocking up pictures of Obama as an African witch doctor or making watermelon jokes was unacceptable, so therefore we’re just being mean about Trump to be mean.
IOW, projection. Always.
TenguPhule
@Corner Stone:
Good. Let the lines be drawn as clearly as possible.
Fuck em.
Aleta
@Corner Stone: Skimmed it, saw how she’s scared for her company and her employee’s jobs; didn’t see her scared for their health care coverage. (Because guaranteed coverage lets them escape, be more mobile in the job market.) Also, no mention of her tax cut …. where is the ‘thank you Captain Trump’? His voters are ungrateful bc that’s who they are.
Elizabelle
That sweet little Badger face.
Kay
@Roger Moore:
They’re really shutting down all criticism of the asshole, and idiots at newspapers are going along.
I don’t have to respect him. I really don’t. That’s not in the constitution or anything. This demanding an apology from the citizenry is really a bridge too godamned far. I’m perfectly polite to these people on an individual level. That’s all they are due. That’s all anyone gets.
Me, me, me. It’s an imposition and they;ve been whining about it since election day.
I do not have to admire Donald Trump or his rabid supporters, which is good, because I don’t. Politeness isn’t good enough, apparently. Apparently I owe them still more.
Jeffro
@Trentrunner: hey easy now it’s hard out there for a pimp… and others in similar lines of work
Barbara
@jackmac: Like I said below, a thesis in search of people willing to whine on the record. Of course they can find people who feel “disrespected.” I notice that they never actually offer any ideas about what would count as respect. I mean, seriously, can they point to a single instance where they have been personally disrespected by a coastal “elite”? When? How? Not from Fox News or something else they have read, but an event or utterance by or to someone they know. I can give them a gazillion instances in which I have heard disrespectful and racist or misogynist statements by or to people I know.
Jeffro
@Kay: i’m trying to remember here… which side was it that was wearing the “fuck your feelings” T-shirts during the campaign ?
Oh never mind they were economically anxious, and also feeling disrespected
Shell
But seriously. Who would want to get out of that nice cushy bed at 3AM and go out in the rain to pee? Silly humans.
TenguPhule
@Kay:
They want their dictator and they want him good and hard.
rp
@efgoldman: I made a similar comment to a friend from Boston, and he said the same thing you did. “They shouldn’t be called ‘BOSTON’ terriers then!!!” He was joking, sort of.
CliosFanBoy ne woodrowfan
little wiener dog got an anti-inflammatory shot. if not better tomorrow off to neurologist. (again).
YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)
@Mnemosyne:
Hey math is hard, but who knew it was sharp and pointy as well?
Tenar Arha
@Major Major Major Major: I don’t understand how it’s possible for me to simultaneously not want these folks (particularly their employees & loved ones) hurt while desperately desiring to force them to watch & listen to the “I told you so” Debbie Reynolds routine forever.
ETA Maybe it’s more that I don’t wanna know that people this selfish exist, hope that people don’t get hurt, & want the selfish to be required to admit yep, we wuz right & we told them do?
Aleta
@Miss Bianca: Any chance he’s reacting from separation anxiety when you leave? If so, perhaps a routine of going off for a walk or drive so he doesn’t see you leave ? Then coming home to a reward and some fun play, like chasing a twisted up brown paper lunch sack with a little kibble inside it. He can pounce, carry it somewhere, settle down to take apart the mystery. Or another mental stimulation toy?
Shell
Im sorry to say that we, on Friday, had to say goodbye to my good dog, Katie. (I think I mentioned her back when John was first facing his problems with Lily.)
She almost made it to 15 and a sweeter and better dog there never was.
Ben Cisco
So…that wack job that called the cops on the Oakland BBQers has become a meme: https://twitter.com/zellieimani/status/995653702399733760
Maybe they didn’t WANT raisins in their potato salad, KAREN!
Corner Stone
@Tenar Arha: When D’s regain control of Congress I suggest we institute a food stamp/welfare check in line for only white people. They fill out their forms, turn them in and before they have any dispensations they answer one question, “Did you vote for Trump?”
Mnemosyne
@YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S):
Watch and enjoy. That’s a single take from “Have you ever read an actuarial table?” to “Next time, I’ll rent a tuxedo.”
Elizabelle
@Shell: My condolences on Katie. She had a good life with you.
Tenar Arha
@Corner Stone: Yeah. Can’t go that far. The kids &/ their dependents didn’t ask for terrible selfish people who don’t care about people outside their family/local area/group/religion/skin tone.
ETA They can keep the help, just they can’t have power over others anymore. No idea how we do that wo lots of upending lots of systems.
Mnemosyne
@Ben Cisco:
I keep thinking that people came up with the generic name “Karen” from all of the times Ray Liotta yells it in Goodfellas, but I’m not sure.
Gelfling 545
@rp: Pugs as well. But then, don’t we all?
Roger Moore
@Kay:
Their problem is they used to get more. Women and minorities used to have to visibly defer to white men, and they don’t have to do that anymore. That’s the core of their complaint: being a white man doesn’t get you as far ahead as it used to.
Roger Moore
@Corner Stone:
That you don’t understand the unwritten “But my feelings are still important” part is why Trump won.
Corner Stone
@Roger Moore: Oh, God. *I’m* the reason Trump won?
Corner Stone
@Tenar Arha: “We will mark them with the sign of the Beast, so that all their fellow man shall recognize and know them. Affix the orange T to their overalls! Let them wear the mark of shame for all time!”
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Mnemosyne: I believe you may be right.
TenguPhule
@Tenar Arha:
Kids and dependents get their own personal accounts. No sharing strictly enforced.
WereBear
Not just defer. Even the lowest white man used to enjoy Roy Moore levels of social license. I started working in offices before sexual harassment was illegal. Any person of color had it worse, from outright rudeness to threats and intimidation.
They lost their asshole privileges, and they really really miss it.
geg6
@WereBear:
This exactly.
Gelfling 545
@Shell: So very sorry. I hope you are comforted by your years of good memories.
Elizabelle
@Corner Stone: Thanks for the link. (1) She’s an idiot. (2) the reader commenters are not.
She’s a sham too. She’s an outsourcer. She’s claiming she was gonna bring a lot of the jobs home, in just a few months, but now …. Liar.
WereBear
@Shell: I am so sorry to hear. My condolences.
b
@Shell: So sorry Shell.
Ruckus
@Kay:
If they stopped that there wouldn’t be any caring at all. Or any thoughts deeper than breathe, breathe, breathe………..
J R in WV
@Miss Bianca:
“…good tips for overcoming Puppy Fear of the Man, do share!”
Milk bones in your pocket. We have a new UPS delivery guy, who gave my dogs Milk bones the last two deliveries. I give them those treats every morning.
Ruckus
@WereBear:
Assholes gotta asshole.
Ruckus
@Elizabelle:
Ya know, I’ve lost 2 businesses in the last 25 yrs. One was 33 yrs old when a natural disaster hit that I couldn’t recover from and the second I lost in the recession that we enjoyed this century. I can blame the second loss on stupidity, even if it wasn’t mine. Well greed actually but in my mind that falls under the stupid umbrella. This woman is complaining that something moronically stupid that she did might cause her to have to fire 50 people and lose her business? And I’m supposed to give a fuck? Not bloody likely to happen.
Ruckus
And Badger is such a cutie pie. He does look like he’s going to be getting into a lot of trouble once he gets the lay of the land and loses that young innocence.
WaterGirl
@MomSense: That is one smart doggie. Cheese, please.
Elizabelle
@Ruckus: That’s stressful. You are a survivor.
I don’t believe her that she can’t find people to manufacture in the US, and she’s having trouble finding employees blah blah blah, period. 4% unemployment rate does not say that much; lots of people not included in it. It’s just a number.
She hit all the buttons for clueless idiot. If I was Swiss, I’d make her stop using the “Lucerne” name.
ETA: Loss of a 33 year old business. That’s tough. My sympathies.
CliosFanBoy nee Woodrowfan
@Shell: i am so sorry…….
daize
Since this is an open thread… anyone have suggestions for tall plus size ladies travel clothing? It hurts to ask that because in my 56 year old mind I’m still 25, six feet tall and 140 pounds. With a firm jawline. And lots of nice golden red hair.
Did I mention thin? Thanks, all.
daize
@Shell: So very sorry to hear about your dear lovely Katie. Keeping you in my thoughts.
J R in WV
@Shell:
So sorry for your loss, I’m sure Katie was the best dog ever!
It’s a hard thing, but an important thing we do for our furry brothers and sisters.
Best wishes!
Ruckus
@Elizabelle:
Thanks, really at some point you want to stop anyway but it had been my dad’s business and I took it over for the last 16 yrs. One can put a lot of one’s self into a small business but unless you are incredibly stupid you know that lots of negative things can happen at any time. You have to make decisions most every day that can be make or break it time but generally it’s put one foot in front of the other. IOW not always a lot different than a lot of professional jobs. With one exception and that’s how easy or difficult it is to walk away.
But I was using my examples as a point that you can lose a business through no fault of your own. Losing one because you voted for the least likely candidate in the countries history, and possibly the most racist and least qualified won’t even get you a raspberry from me. It will however get you a “Serves you fucking right you fucking moronic racist piece of shit.”
Aleta
@Shell: I’m so sorry. I wish there were good words adequate to such a loss. My sympathy.
Aleta
@Ruckus: Yeah, he already has that look, doesn’t he. Wheels turning, figuring things out to his advantage.
Aleta
@daize:Here are some threads at Shakesville where people talk about sources for plus size clothes they’re happy with, including inexpensive or reasonable ones. They do other product threads and makeup ones too.
Aleta
@daize: For example, in the 2nd thread of the above link, this site was mentioned. (I don’t know anything about it beyond the mention.)
schrodingers_cat
@daize: L L Bean has tall sizes and plus sizes as well.
Mnemosyne
@daize:
REI has plus sizes for most of their outdoor clothes.
daize
@Aleta: @schrodingers_cat: @Mnemosyne: Thank you so much for the suggestions!
Miss Bianca
@Shell: very late back to this thread, just wanted to say I am so sorry to hear the news about Katie. My condolences. It;s just so freaking hard to lose them, isn’t it?