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A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

Bad news for Ron DeSantis is great news for America.

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I was promised a recession.

If marriage is the equivalent of selling yourself into slavery, women with self respect should reject the offer.

Let’s finish the job.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Narcissists are always shocked to discover other people have agency.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

We still have time to mess this up!

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

Well, whatever it is, it’s better than being a Republican.

How can republicans represent us when they don’t trust women?

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

The US Supreme Court is on the ballot in november.

The new republican ‘Pastor’ of the House is an odious authoritarian little creep.

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I Will Be Treated Fairly Or Else: The Trump Doctrine – Super Bowl Edition

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The Philadelphia Eagles fall prey to the “or else” portion of the Trump Doctrine!

What a child!

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  1. 1.

    Elizabelle

    So now he’s picking a fight with the Eagles?

    I really do not see Trump serving out a full term (to which he was illegitimately elected). Poor us.

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    And when either the Cavs or Warriors win the NBA Champ game, another slap to the face. I guess the NHL champ will go to the WH?

  3. 3.

    MJS

    In a contest for the hearts and minds of Philadelphia area racists, the shitgibbon doesn’t stand a chance against the Iggles.

  5. 5.

    dr. bloor

    Trump’s going to send a memo telling Goodell next year’s Super Bowl will be between the Patriots and the Redskins, Or Else.

  14. 14.

    Corner Stone

    @dr. bloor: What the idiot NFL owners should have long ago realized is that the fight they can’t win is the one to appease Trump.
    Now what are they going to do next season?

  15. 15.

    dr. bloor

    Reminds me of the good old days when Obama told Bob Kraft et al to fuck off because Brady thought he had more important things to do that day.

    Oh, wait…

  16. 16.

    Adam L Silverman

    @MJS: The real question is whether Ovechkin actually believes that when he says it or just says it because he doesn’t want his relatives to be scarfed up back at home.

  17. 17.

    Gelfling 545

    As a life long resident of Buffalo, I guess I have one reason to be grateful to the NFL anyway. I mean, the Bills aren’t great but at least they’re not Trump’s.

  21. 21.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Corner Stone:

    Now what are they going to do next season?

    Whatever he asks. To quote the old expression: “once you pay Danegeld, it is impossible to get rid of the Dane”.

  22. 22.

    Mary G

    Someone on Twitter was advising the Eagles’ fans who are still attending to bring batteries. Not sure Dolt 45 gets that crowd. Less than 10 of the players were willing to go. Instead they are going to the National Archives and the Lincoln Memorial.

  24. 24.

    Corner Stone

    @dr. bloor:

    Reminds me of the good old days when Obama told Bob Kraft et al to fuck off because Brady thought he had more important things to do that day.

    The original Red Line Rhetoric!

  26. 26.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Gelfling 545: Just you wait. He’ll nationalize the entire league if he has to in order to defend the national anthem, which he does not know the words too. Only this President can make the national in National Football League meaningful on behalf of the forgotten men and women of America who are forgotten no more!//

    ETA: Sarc tags.

  27. 27.

    Corner Stone

    @Gin & Tonic: When your team misses 27 threes in a row to lose to the team you were built to beat…what difference does it make?

  29. 29.

    Adam L Silverman

    @MJS: Wilson should have been sat down for at least 3 games for that hit in game 1 on Marchessault.

  30. 30.

    raven

    @Adam L Silverman: You mean the one that he insisted in attending and standing for at the national championship game and then leaving at the half after causing 90,000 people to stand in the freezing rain for 3 hrs?

  35. 35.

    LAO

    What I can’t understand, is why Trump’s dipshit fan base doesn’t see him as the world’s biggest, whiniest, crybaby. I mean how thin skinned can this man be?

  36. 36.

    eric

    @LAO: Team = Black; Trump = White.

    How do I know? I was curious and waded into the swamp at the Daily Caller. Wow. Boys From Brazil commenting on that site.

  39. 39.

    kindness

    Oh look at that! Trump pulls an unexpected Kim Jong-un move on the Philadelphia Eagles! They’re down, NO! They’re Out Of Here!!! Who saw that coming? – say this in your best WWE voiceover

    Ya know though, as adults we don’t go through life looking to stop strangers from dissing us. We don’t like being talked smack about. But we know it happens somewhere, some time. The deal is, this is no skin off our noses. For most of us , we don’t care enough to give a shit and act on this potential future dis. But not Trump. That says something not too nice about Trumps mental make up.

  40. 40.

    Kay

    @Mary G:

    Instead they are going to the National Archives and the Lincoln Memorial.

    Good for them. I’m relieved the Trump Administration can’t bar them. That’s next week, I guess.

    I’ll be taking a pass on this state-produced propaganda. It’s only Monday and I feel I’ve been re-educated enough this week.

  41. 41.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @schrodingers_cat:
    Rolling Stone

    According to Thomas Nuemann of ESPN, it dates back to at least Aug. 30, 1865, when President Andrew Johnson welcomed the Brooklyn Atlantics and Washington Nationals amateur baseball clubs. Ulysses S. Grant played host to the first professional baseball team, the Cincinnati Red Stockings, in 1869. The first World Series championship team to show up at the White House is believed to be the 1924 Washington Senators, invited by Calvin Coolidge. John F. Kennedy, possibly the Boston area’s most famous citizen, invited Red Auerbach and the Celtics to the White House in 1963 when the team was in the middle of the most dominant decade possibly in all of American sports.

    The Pittsburgh Steelers were the first Super Bowl champion to visit, joining the World Series-winning Pittsburgh Pirates in a dual ceremony with Jimmy Carter in February of 1980. Over a decade later, another Pittsburgh team, the Penguins, became the first NHL team to visit when George H.W. Bush was in office.

  42. 42.

    Corner Stone

    @LAO:

    is why Trump’s dipshit fan base doesn’t see him as the world’s biggest, whiniest, crybaby.

    Racism. I know it’s been said many times before. But I recently had a brief encounter with a very nice white lady as we rode down an elevator. To sum up, she ended our conversation by telling me “that’s why I never watch the NBA or NFL any more”. And then she fucking *winked* at me as she walked off. I took a couple steps and then was like…”Holy shit, that whole convo was racist AF!”.

  45. 45.

    Kay

    @kindness:

    The Trump Administration. And the entire Republican Party. Who will all show up to kiss his ring at this forced-march Celebration of Donald Trump.

  47. 47.

    LAO

    @raven: No. It’s bothered me for the last 3 years and frankly, whiny baby man dis-inviting the Eagles with that ridiculous statement has made me ponder that question for the one millionth time.

  48. 48.

    Platonailedit

    Winning their first ever Super Bowl in franchise history was big. Refusing to visit a White House occupied by a racist president is far bigger.

    — Ed Glavin (@EdGlavin) June 5, 2018

    The lying pos didn’t ‘disinvite’ them. They told him to fuck off when they won.

  50. 50.

    LAO

    @Corner Stone: I can see that. But my God — he’s such a whiny bastard, I’m still boggled. Trump is the antithesis of Macho — yet these mouth breathers worship the ground he walks on.

  51. 51.

    Kay

    Wonder what the parameters are of this “new norm”. Does one have to swear loyalty to Donald Trump to enter the White House?

    I’ve actually never been. I shoulda gone before the Republican Party sold it to the Trump Family, I guess. I thought I had time!

  52. 52.

    Platonailedit

    Trump disinvites Eagles from White House – while millions of Americans hurt. Puerto Rico suffers. Allies fret. The planet warms. He uses our National Anthem to sow disunity in what's supposed to be the UNITED States of America. I think history will mark it as akin to McCarthyism.

    — Dan Rather (@DanRather) June 5, 2018

  53. 53.

    sralloway

    I am a Patriots fan, transplanted from Maine as my wife is a Philly native and they don’t move. After 37 years here, I cannot be prouder of the Eagles. Fly, Eagles, Fly.

  54. 54.

    Jeffro

    I wonder if the “smaller delegation” from the Eagles was like, 3 players who are set to retire plus a towel boy or something? If so, it’s a shame Trumpov caught wind of it in advance…would be great to see another small crowd celebrating His Orangeness

  55. 55.

    Jeffro

    @Platonailedit: He did already say/leak/whatever that he’s going to be all-culture war, all the time from here on out. It’s the only thing he knows and it’s the only thing that has a prayer of saving him in 2018 and 2020.

  56. 56.

    khead

    @Corner Stone:

    Wentz and Foles both said pretty much the same thing.

    “Personally, I don’t view it (this way), I know some people do, but I don’t view it as a political thing whatsoever. I don’t mess with politics very often, but I will be involved in going to that,” Wentz said. “For me personally, if the team decides as a whole, most guys want to go and be a part of it, I will be attending with them. I think it’s just a cool way to receive the honor, kid of nationally and be recognized.”

  60. 60.

    Doug G

    @Corner Stone: Didn’t Foles practically hand the SB MVP trophy to the baby Jesus in the post-game presentation? I had cheered for his team during the game, but this vocal God-bothering pisses me off. Even some of the Patriots might pray, and I didn’t see any of them lambasting the savior for failing to deliver.

  62. 62.

    JMG

    When the Bruins won the Stanley Cup in 2011, goalie Tim Thomas, the MVP, who is a survivalist militia-type nut now living in the parts unknown of the Mountain West, didn’t go because Obama and socialism. Obama didn’t mention it, the Bruins didn’t mention it. Nobody cared. The only people who care about this are the people as racist as Trump is, that is to say, the people we should deport out of our country — to Antarctica.

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    @LAO: Because that base, made up of white evangelical Protestant Christians (Evangelicals, Charismatics, and/or Fundamentalists) who are part of the ethnic and religious group that have run everything in the US since its founding with the exception of the presidency under Kennedy and Obama and the current bulk of the seats on the Supreme Court (Catholics and Jews), believe they are being discriminated against because everyone else is telling them they have to share.

  64. 64.

    joel hanes

    I think history will mark it as akin to McCarthyism.

    Jesus, Dan. Try to keep up.
    it’s actual fascism.
    McCarthyism was but the palest shadow of the threat Trump poses to our form of government and the legitimacy of our national institutions.

  66. 66.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @LAO:
    They don’t understand what it means to actually be a man. Being sensitive, compassionate, kind, and thinking logically are weaknesses to these people. They are more like him than even they realize.

    Sometimes I wonder if being a superpower has partially led to these people being so damaged; they’ve been insulated and coddled by the vestiges of a welfare state that was built by those who died on the battlefield, on the picket line, and at the hands of hooded fascists. But then, these types existed when the US was a backwater and other nations as well.

  68. 68.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Adam L Silverman: To be fair, the mainline Protestants are largely liberal. It is the Fundies and Evangelicals (who oddly don’t include the Evangelical Lutherans) who are the issue.

  69. 69.

    Adam L Silverman

    @schrodingers_cat: The President is both head of government and head of state. This is one of those ceremonial head of state functions. Unfortunately the President thinks he was elected king, not President.

  74. 74.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): This is what happens when you try to use Signal or WhatsApp to contact your GRU handler (Konstatin Kilimnik) because you 1) think either or both of those are actually secure and 2) are too stupid to realize that if there is no longer an active FISA warrant on you, we are most certainly surveilling your foreign contacts outside the US because we know you’re too stupid not to do this.

  75. 75.

    Mary G

    @Davebo: Manafort is the man who had to have someone else make a .pdf file out of a Word doc for him. He probably thought that sending messages over encrypted apps meant that Mueller couldn’t read them. Mueller obviously can, and the people he sent them to are probably also cooperating with the investigation, so he’s an idiot all the way around.

  76. 76.

    Corner Stone

    I don’t know who this 21 yr old is on the LO’D show tonight (w/Ali Velshi), but I am having a hard time assigning a lot of study or gravitas.

  77. 77.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Donald J. Trump: Assholo di tutti assholi.

    (How do I hate thee? Let me just fucking count the ways.)

  78. 78.

    Kay

    @Mike in NC:

    It’s amazing to watch because he gets worse every week and so they just lower the bar. I don’t think he can hit bottom. I didn’t anticipate they would lower the floor. Did not ponder that possibility. There is no bottom. They just take out a couple of layers of subfloor and he’s back on level ground.

  80. 80.

    Adam L Silverman

    @JMG: Yep. Even when Obama was asked about it he graciously said something anodyne like it was a shame he couldn’t make it and then moved on.

  82. 82.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Tom Wright @ thomaswright08
    Amazing. CNN reporting Pompeo told Trump it would be “counterproductive” to allow Bolton to attend the Oval Office meeting with visiting North Korean official Kim Yong Chol. Non trivial probability Bolton doesn’t last much longer.

    if this turns out to be true, we’ll know Pompeo is the greatest courtier/flatterer since… well, a whole bunch of people who wound up being executed by Nero, Henry VIII and/or assorted Romanovs

  84. 84.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @M4:
    Do you have a “memo” app on your phone?

    Copy it into that, save it, and then copy and paste your nym and email from that document to BJ. That’s what I do every time

  88. 88.

    Corner Stone

    Not that I really care, but it’s obvious the entire WH Press Corps knew the backstory of what ever it was that was going on with Melania. And the fact that we didn’t hear a peep about it…

  92. 92.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I don’t find this surprising at all. Now we have to see if Secretary Pompeo forms an alliance with Secretary Mattis. If that happens, then Bolton will be gone sooner rather than later.

  93. 93.

    Davebo

    @Corner Stone: The WH Press Corps is useless. Enthralled with their own importance to something.. something.

    When the president claims your story is a lie and your source doesn’t exist yet your source works for the president it’s OK to expose your source IMO.

  97. 97.

    sdhays

    @joel hanes: You’re not wrong, but go easy on Dan. He always struck me as a real-deal journalist and if there were more like him in the media, I think things would be different.

  98. 98.

    BC in Illinois

    From Jim Kenney, Mayor of Philadelphia:

    A statement about a “fragile egomaniac obsessed with crowd size.”

    “The Eagles call the birthplace of our democracy home, so it’s no surprise that this team embodies everything that makes our country and our city great. Their athletic accomplishments on the field led to an historic victory this year. Fans all across the country rallied behind them because we like to root for the underdog and we feel joy when we see the underdogs finally win. I’m equally proud of the Eagles’ activism off the field. These are players who stand up for the causes they believe in and who contribute in meaningful ways to their community. They represent the diversity of our nation-a nation in which we are free to express our opinions.

    “Disinviting them from the White House only proves that our President is not a true patriot, but a fragile egomaniac obsessed with crowd size and afraid of the embarrassment of throwing a party to which no one wants to attend.

    “City Hall is always open for a celebration.”

  99. 99.

    Davebo

    @Adam L Silverman: I don’t see it happening. Mattis isn’t exactly in Don’s good graces from what I’ve seen and Pompeo is all about Pompeo.

    Of course that could be said of nearly all the WH staff and cabinet members.

  102. 102.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Platonailedit: Good for them. Only a handful were going to show up which is probably why Trump canceled.

    In any case, it’s good to see some politicians putting the spotlight on this administration’s awful policy of separating migrant children from their parents. I hope Democrats demand an investigation into the mishandling of Puerto Rican aid which led to the deaths of over 4,000 people.

  103. 103.

    Mary G

    Now this obit is settling a grudge but good:

    Kathleen Dehmlow (Schunk) was born on March 19, 1938 to Joseph and Gertrude Schunk of Wabasso.
    She married Dennis Dehmlow at St. Anne’s in Wabasso in 1957 and had two children Gina and Jay.
    In 1962 she became pregnant by her husband’s brother Lyle Dehmlow and moved to California.
    She abandoned her children, Gina and Jay who were then raised by her parents in Clements, Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Schunk.
    She passed away on May 31, 2018 in Springfield and will now face judgement. She will not be missed by Gina and Jay, and they understand that this world is a better place without her.

  105. 105.

    Kay

    I’m not a history buff or anything, but doesn’t it seem like the football players with their silent, serious protest are just bound to be considered on the right side of this in 50 years? You would think the low quality Trump hires would stay away from it just out of egotistical self-regard.

    I used to wonder about this with birthers. “You could be someone’s granny one day- do you really want them to find out this is how you spent your time?” They’d be like “ugh- you were one of THOSE? I read about them”.

  106. 106.

    Davebo

    @Adam L Silverman: He should have just politely declined. He had to know the idea was ludicrous.

    IG investigations at DOJ can be pretty brutal and I can’t believe the DOD version is any less harrowing.

    Enjoy your colonoscopy Ronny.

  107. 107.

    sdhays

    @Platonailedit: In another administration, that would be the scandal of the week. With this administration, will it even get mentioned on the nightly news?

  110. 110.

    lgerard

    According to CNN, Trump made a joke about Melania’s prolonged absence, saying that the media were speculating the first lady had left him. He then pointed out that his wife was, in fact, sitting in the front row. While playful, the joke was perhaps not entirely befitting an event where families were mourning their loved ones.

    classy!

  111. 111.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Davebo: I’m not saying it will happen. My impression is that SecDef isn’t thrilled with Bolton. And he’s a good strategist, so if he can create even a temporary alliance with Pompeo it would make sense. It doesn’t mean it will happen.

  113. 113.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Kay: People who did something other than complain? Kay, I understand that you are working in meat space, but you are such a downer on line. Do you know how much you influence people and how negative you seem?

  115. 115.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @lgerard: is that from today? Does Meuller have the authority to subpoena “any and all modifications or addenda to any and all existing prenuptial agreements between the President and any and wives, current and past”? (Yes, IANAL)

    I wonder what/how much she got. “David Dennison and all persons using that alias do hereby agree that no children born to Melanie Trump during her marriage to any and all persons will ever be subject to a PATERNITY TEST! Said children will count in any will testament or codicil as much IVANKA, and for at least TWO ERICS”

  116. 116.

    Corner Stone

    @Kay:

    You would think the low quality Trump hires would stay away from it just out of egotistical self-regard.

    ISTM that a good chunk of the people who make up these Trump low quality hires think the wrong side lost 70 years ago.

  117. 117.

    Platonailedit

    @sdhays: The worst part is where she says at the end ‘for those who didn’t have our back, we are taking names’. What a cabal of mafia thugs.

  118. 118.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Davebo: This is likely to get ugly. He was approved for a 2nd star. So this is now going to suck in that promotion board in an attempt how that was voted up given the accusations against him. Whoever his senior rater is in a lot of trouble. There will also be a lot of people looking through a lot of people’s underwear at Navy Medical Command. And, I fully expect, that whichever states he’s medically licensed in, that those state boards will be reviewing this as well to determine if his license needs to be pulled.

  119. 119.

    eemom

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    People who did something other than complain? Kay, I understand that you are working in meat space, but you are such a downer on line. Do you know how much you influence people and how negative you seem?

    Any hope this is snark? Or are you just an asshole?

  124. 124.

    El Caganer

    Wonder how Trump would have reacted to Doug Pederson, a guy who has actually been a successful organizational leader.

  126. 126.

    Platonailedit

    @Omnes Omnibus: Kay is pointing out the reality of a reality show of a presidency. Your and your ilk’s constant see the glass full helps how? Asshole.

  127. 127.

    SFAW

    @Corner Stone:

    When your team misses 27 threes in a row

    Shee-it, I can do that, all by myself, without breaking a sweat — where’s my damn multi-million dollar contract?

  128. 128.

    sdhays

    @debbie: Bolton nearly derailed Spanky’s Nobel Peace Prize. I would expect him to be the one in the cross-hairs, especially since he has that mustache that the Preznit despises.

  130. 130.

    Jeffro

    You know what bugs the shit out of me? Trumpov’s statement says that the Eagles disagreed with their president…not “the” president…their president.

    Fuck that, jerk: you’re not their president or my president. You’re a puppet. You’re a basket case. You’re not fit to be dogcatcher and I hope we tar and feather you the whole way across the continent by the time this is done. But you’re not their president.

  133. 133.

    Jeffro

    @VOR: Ew gross…Pruit is a hot mess in eight directions already, didn’t figure him for a Trumpov mattress-stain fetishist…

  134. 134.

    Jeffro

    @Platonailedit: But was she BEGGING for it, would she practically DO ANYTHING for approval of that resolution? (a la Trumpov’s scummy remarks at Gillibrand)? Hey national media, you definitely need. to. ask. In the interests of treating both sides fairly.

    (y’all forgot that one, right? That had to have been like 12 Infrastructure Weeks ago…)

  136. 136.

    SFAW

    @JMG:

    When the Bruins won the Stanley Cup in 2011, goalie Tim Thomas, the MVP, who is a survivalist militia-type nut now living in the parts unknown of the Mountain West, didn’t go because Obama and socialism.

    He was absolutely great in the playoffs that year. My daughter — a big Bs fan — couldn’t get enough of his play.

    Until he refused Obama’s invite, that is, and it became obvious that he was a racist RWA, and her approximate response was “Fuck him.” [Have I mentioned that the SFAW-ette is more left-wing than her old man?] I was pretty proud of her.

  137. 137.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jeffro:

  148. 148.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I’m sure the nice airmen in the C-130 will listen to your whining about how everything is so unfair just before they shove you out the back of the plane, 10,000 feet over the Gulf of Mexico like all of the other enemies of the state.

  149. 149.

    eemom

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    @Platonailedit:

    You haven’t and I suggest can’t refute what I said. I will leave it there.

    So there, Platonailedit! You can’t “refute” his gratuitous, obnoxious, mean spirited insult to one of the most intelligent, committed and proactive liberals ever to post on this blog. He’s gonna leave it there, just like all his other increasingly toxic, reeking turds.

    On the brighter side, given your nym — perhaps you’ll appreciate that you’ve finally found the Platonic form of “dish it out but can’t take it.”

  151. 151.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @eemom:

    gratuitous, obnoxious, mean spirited insult to one of the most intelligent, committed and proactive liberals ever to post on this blog. He’s gonna leave it there, just like all his other increasingly toxic, reeking turds.

    That’s quite an imagination you’ve got there.

  154. 154.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @eemom:
    Real talk: I don’t get what Omnes said is so bad. I’m getting sick of the negativity too.

  155. 155.

    Citizen Alan

    @Kay:

    I fully expect Shitgibbon to go on a live racist rant in the middle of the next SOTU address. That or lose control of his bowels. Or both.

  158. 158.

    Steeplejack

    @Platonailedit:

    The “taking names” quote is from January 2017. If you pause the video in your link above at 2:00 you will see that. It was a bit dishonest, or at least misleading, of Now This to edit that in there.

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