The way my dog eats watermelon is everything ?? pic.twitter.com/DOnklK9uEP
— jenelle (@JenelleBnstr) June 5, 2018
Because some of us are capable of as much discrimination as that dog, pundits…
(scene: a restaurant somewhere)
Waiter: Ready to order?
Dem: I'll have the steak.
Pundit: You can't just be AGAINST pork! You have to be FOR something!
Dem: I'm FOR steak.
Pundit: Being ANTI-PORK isn't enough to win!
Dem: I just…
Pundit: This is why Trump won, ya know.
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) June 7, 2018
Today’s @NBCNews poll shows that running against Trump is a much better position in the fall than running with him by a huge margin. While Trump is popular among GOP primary voters, he is poisonous among general election voters.
— Matthew Dowd (@matthewjdowd) June 7, 2018
So a better question the media should ask instead of what are Dems going to run on besides being against Trump, is what are Republicans going to run on besides being for Trump and his agenda? https://t.co/A35aSBeOwi
— Matthew Dowd (@matthewjdowd) June 7, 2018
WsJ/NBC poll: "By a whopping 25-point margin, voters say they're more likely to back a congressional candidate who promises to serve as a check on President Donald Trump"https://t.co/zUnYuPWGQq
— Tim Mak (@timkmak) June 7, 2018
This number will only worsen for R’s.
You can sell an empty promise.
Once it’s sold and you don’t deliver though, you’re in for some major anger from the people who actually believed you… https://t.co/wegIj8rZUn
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) June 7, 2018
"Don't make it about Trump" has been dumb all along. I've been saying forever that in the end it's going to be 80-90% about Trump. Candidates would be stupid to not talk about other things. They have to. But it'll mostly be about standing up to or rolling over for Trump. https://t.co/LDCP0g0zbu
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) June 7, 2018
schrodingers_cat
Democratic candidates for office should do the opposite of what the media advises them to do.
MattF
Relevant NYT column from Charles Blow on staying angry with Trump.
SiubhanDuinne
Now I want John to make a video of Lily eating watermelon. She would be so dainty, so delicate, so well-behaved.
Rosie and Thurston, OTOH….
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
Running on a convict and imprison Trump platform seems like a winner.
Schlemazel
@schrodingers_cat:
Words to live by. The media is NOT your friend
khead
Mr. Dowd? Mr. Mak? Meet Joe Manchin.
Mnemosyne
The only feelings that will be hurt by bashing Trump are those of people who never would have voted for a Democrat in the first place.
p.a.
Mark Penn on line 2.
“Just hang up.”
rikyrah
Just dust ??
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1004737889345921029?s=20
geg6
@SiubhanDuinne:
My John and I are, as we speak, planning on cutting up some watermelon and trying that with Koda and Lovey. Koda will chomp it down like a pig because that’s how she rolls with food. But if Lovey deigns to eat it, it will be the daintiest thing ever because that is how she rolls with food. Always the daintiest eater. Not with anything else, but finicky and dainty about eating.
rikyrah
That first tweet is EVERYTHING???
p.a.
MSM CW: Don’t badmouth trump voters. It’ll only make them more trump vote-ier. Or something…
TenguPhule
@khead:
debbie
@geg6:
And she’s related to Thurston???
p.a.
@geg6:
I’m not an editor, but I have stayed at Holiday Inn, and I suggest a rewrite.
Chip Daniels
When your house is on fire, no one ever scolds you by saying “You need to run TOWARDS something, not just away from fire!”
Literally, almost any conceivable policy position the Democrats could take, is better than Trump.
hitchhiker
Speaking of Trump voters, can any of you explain what it is they think is going to be in the IG report that’s been promised for next week? I saw a tweet about how there would be multiple indictments of HRC, Obama, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, James Comey, and so on. Is the idea that all these people conspired to illegally force Trump campaign officials to meet with spies?
Mary G
@rikyrah: Teachers rule.
@SiubhanDuinne: @geg6: I’m imagining John on the back porch with all three dogs and a watermelon and giggling. Take some pictures of Koda and Lovey trying it.
dmsilev
Of course it’s about Trump. Midterm elections are always about the President, even if they’re not on the ballot. A couple of years ago, I graphed the relationship between Presidential approval and midterm performance. There’s a very clear trend, though there’s enough scatter that making a quantitative prediction isn’t a good idea.
(details: Polling is Gallup job approval in late October, except for 1974 where it’s an average of Nixon’s last approval poll and Ford’s immediate pre-election approval. Net shift in seats is the change in the partisan balance, i.e. a single seat flipping R->D would be a net shift of 2)
rikyrah
@MattF:
We should keep our anger.
dmsilev
@hitchhiker:
I believe I’ve spotted the error you made.
SiubhanDuinne
@geg6:
❤️❤️❤️
Please to have camera at the ready!
MattF
@dmsilev: Looks like two clusters. And Trump clearly belongs to the lower cluster.
TenguPhule
Abe is so going to get serious pushback in Japan for this.
MomSense
@rikyrah:
That was beautiful.
TenguPhule
Sounds like a promising Trump inspired business.
rikyrah
Who speaks for Mueller?
Rudy is trying to?
https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1004843824571736064?s=20
TenguPhule
@rikyrah: Dick Whisperer.
p.a.
There are issues of governance, and THE ISSUE OF TRUMP. Since the Rethugs are lockstep with trump, this shouldn’t be that hard (and I’m usually a pessimist) Rethugs will try to promote some wiggle room: I spoke against X,Y,Z…
But they voted…
Their only option is going full culture war. It’s worked before. A lot.
MomSense
@hitchhiker:
Yes, I can explain. Insane in the membrane.
TenguPhule
@hitchhiker:
“Not the Puppet, Not the Puppet, You’re the Puppet” as a Plan of Action.
Corner Stone
@rikyrah: I didn’t put it that way, but in my head I was like, “uh HUH”.
dmsilev
@MattF: Trump’s approval has never made it out of the low 40s. I think the highest he’s managed is like 44 or so. The other thing, which the graph doesn’t capture, is disapproval rating. With some Presidents, there’s a substantial number of people who have a “no idea” or “mixed opinion” or whatever. With Trump, his disapproval (and also “strong disapproval”) is just about everyone outside of the GOP base.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
That reminds me of something that happened when I was in college:
I was sitting in my university apartment when I kept hearing an electronic voice outside repeating something over and over again. I looked out and a group of kids about 11-12 years old were standing in a circle around a parked car. They all took one step forward, and the car said, “Attention! You are standing too close to this vehicle! Attention!”
Then the kids all took one big step back, waited for the car to reset itself, and took one big step forward.
“Attention! You are standing too close to this vehicle! Attention!”
I bet that guy never figured out why his car battery died. ?????
Corner Stone
@p.a.: Maybe lower case?
TenguPhule
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!
What are you fucking doing, Pelosi?! We’re on the verge of a Trump caused economic crash and you do this NOW of all times?! The GOP just fucking BLED the budget revenues with Tax Cuts, remember!
Brachiator
Wow. I love this shit. Pundit asks a false question, and then proceeds to give a stupid, poorly thought out answer to his own damn question.
A moment of perfect self-masturbatory emptiness.
Amir Khalid
@p.a.:
The lady said, “My John and I”, not “my john and I”. I do believe the difference is significant. :)
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne: This company is so obnoxious and arrogant that Honolulu cracked down on the stupid fuckers by having the cops simply confiscate the scooters under the “no littering” statute.
Corner Stone
@schrodingers_cat:
I agree. And it makes me furious when D’s, or nominal D’s, start parroting the same talking point BS. I saw former SFO Mayor Willie Brown on MSNBC over the weekend repeating the same garbage for a 15 minute segment. He’s not the only one that seems to be desperate for a spotlight by spouting this same bullshit about D politics.
Corner Stone
No, Michael Steele. The D’s do not need an 8pt or double digit polling lead to make gains in the midterms. FU.
zhena gogolia
@MattF:
The “Reader’s Picks” comments on that article are so filled with rage. So are the WaPo comments on virtually any story concerning DJT. I keep thinking this kind of rage (which I don’t recall EVER seeing before) has to translate into votes, doesn’t it? Doesn’t it?
ETA: To be clear, I mean rage against Trump and his supporters.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
Sorry, what Democratic legislation did you think Trump was going to sign? When he loses the House, he’s going to be PISSED as only a toxic narcissist can be.
eclare
I need to try that with my dog!
MagdaInBlack
@rikyrah:
✨?✨
That made my day.
MisterForkbeard
@hitchhiker: IIRC, the IG report is supposed to say bad things about Comey because he went against policy and the explicit recommendations of his superiors to publicly attack Hillary Clinton twice.
There’s also supposed to be some level of criticism levelled at Loretta Lynch for… talking to Bill Clinton on the tarmac. I guess we can compare this to Trump literally calling in the FBI multiple times and asking for inside information on the investigation into his campaign, or any of his obstruction of justice.
Brachiator
@TenguPhule:
I hope she is selling this to fool the Republicans.
dmsilev
@Mnemosyne: Yeah, this. Even if we take the Senate (a much steeper hill to climb than the House, but not impossible), there’s no chance of anything resembling major legislation passing until 2021.
JPL
@eclare: It’s safe except you want to remove seeds, and not let the dog eat the rind.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne: Assuming the House tries to pass a federal budget, we start off about six feet to the Right of where we want to be. And that’s before some unexpected but totally predictable disaster suddenly needs federal money. Committing to pay-go ahead of time limits future Democratic options. Its an unforced error which is gonna come back to bite us.
TenguPhule
@dmsilev:
I guarantee that should the economy start going south, there is going to be immense pressure on Congress to “DO SOMETHING”.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
Has anyone asked Pelosi if they win control of the House that they’ll expand the number of seats to what they should be according to current population?
MisterForkbeard
@Brachiator: I can absolutely see this as a “The House is going to take Trump’s proposals and carefully consider them before refusing all of them because they do terrible things financially to everyone.”
We were seeing some indications from Dems even earlier this week that after Republican budget shenanigans they were feeling much less inclined to worry about the deficit. In this case, I hope they basically give Trump the finger and fail his proposals on this criteria alone, and propose Democratic solutions that also have negative budgetary impacts but use republican magical thinking to make them budget neutral.
JPL
OH my! We are going to war with Canada.. Guess who
Prime Minister Trudeau is being so indignant, bringing up the relationship that the U.S. and Canada had over the many years and all sorts of other things…but he doesn’t bring up the fact that they charge us up to 300% on dairy — hurting our Farmers, killing our Agriculture!
TenguPhule
@Brachiator:
I’m afraid its genuine. Rules of the game have changed, but I don’t see our party adapting to the New Game we’re playing fast enough.
dmsilev
@TenguPhule: And what exact “something” can they do without Trump’s willingness to sign?
TenguPhule
@JPL:
Like having our back on every major conflict we’ve been in for the last HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS.
Trump is going to achieve the impossible, he’s going to make Canada a hostile nation.
dmsilev
@JPL: He’s getting pissy because it’s dawning on him that Mexico and Canada aren’t willing to simply rip up NAFTA Because Donald Says So.
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne:
I’m hoping he loses the House. I want to see him pissed.
It would be even better if he lost both houses.
I want to see a House with a Democratic Party majority introduce a boatload of good legislation. Doesn’t matter if the Republicans blood it or Trump vetoes it. It will be ammunition for 2020. And if some of it passes, that’s even better.
Wapiti
@Mnemosyne: That’s a very good point. So Pelosi will have the ability to do investigation/oversight, and pass baseline spending bills. Depending on Muller’s team’s results, and the willingness of Repubs who survive a blue wave to moderate themselves, she can revisit the pay-go rule.
TenguPhule
@dmsilev:
They’ll be immense pressure on the Democrats to make concessions so that Trump signs “anything”. That kind of emotional panic isn’t rational. Remember what the GOP did to President Obama’s bailout programs to get us out of the Great Recession. This time, they’re in a position to make things much worse.
p.a.
@Corner Stone: I considered that but couldn’t resist the chance for an obnoxious comment.
dmsilev
@TenguPhule:
In college, I took a poli-sci course in which the TA argued that the best reason for the US to maintain a nuclear arsenal was to deter the vicious Quebecois from streaming across the border and assimilating half of New England.
He may, just may, have been less than serious.
eclare
@JPL: Thanks!
SRW1
With a bigly assist by the Trumpster pre-election. Post-election, he will insist that he wasn’t on the ballot in any way, shape, of form.
JPL
@TenguPhule: You win.. Yes it was Trump and now Canada is our enemy.
Where is Adam when we need him. He just praised the dictator in North Korea.
dmsilev
@TenguPhule: Trump can’t even articulate what he wants and will sign with a Republican Congress. See: Obamacare repeal, immigration. In any sort of crisis, he’ll be so far scattered all over the map, changing from hour to hour, that nobody will know or care about what sort of concessions he might want.
Brachiator
@TenguPhule:
It’s really the same old game. Some people just like to get themselves tied up into knots overcomplicating things.
These people are elected to govern. Craft effective legislation, get it passed, get it executed.
Cheryl Rofer
Saw a bumper sticker this afternoon. A picture of Trump, one of the better ones, with “Pendejo” beneath it.
TenguPhule
@dmsilev: Trump just dropped trousers and took an enormous flaming dump on Canada’s military losses from supporting us as allies and friends. I’m struggling to think of something even more offensive he could have done to them.
Cheryl Rofer
@JPL: Trump has praised Kim Jong Un before. Today he said he’d invite him to the White House if they get along. No sign in what Pompeo said this afternoon that he has the faintest idea of the technical issues involved. Neither Trump nor John Bolton is preparing for the meeting – “It’s a matter of attitude.”
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TenguPhule
@dmsilev:
Economic panic isn’t rational. Not the bullshit economic insecurity, but the real “ohfuckohfuckohfuck” sight of watching trillions in wealth go up in electronic smoke.
Wapiti
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: I was surprised that that is only a law, not a Constitutional Amendment. I can’t imagine that the Senate would approve it*, nor do I think Trump would sign it.
* States with lower than average population would lose electoral college clout if the House were expanded. So half of the Senate would likely lean towards disapproval, before considering party.
JPL
@JPL: ugh Adam didn’t praise a dictator, Trump did.
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer:
No kidding.
Well, I’m reassured, how about the rest of you? //s
JPL
@Cheryl Rofer: I just hope he is not indignant, cuz there will be tweets
I read that Trump is hoping to sign a peace treaty, and might even agree to remove U.S. troops.
Corner Stone
I wish that female reporter in Israel had stepped on stage and pulled Rudy right off the stage and threw him to the floor.
jl
If a dog can eat watermelon like a person, we can do something about Trump, darnitall.
Percysowner
BREAKING: Trump’s Justice Department Refuses To Defend Obamacare In Court
Not a surprise, but still.
Steve in the ATL
@dmsilev: last night Subaru Diane and I discovered that neither of us has ever eaten poutine
Corner Stone
@Steve in the ATL: And you believed her?
bemused
@MattF:
Excellent piece.
I don’t think trump can live without fights. He craves fighting and bullying as much as he craves adoration and getting his way on all things. Even if he had that 24/7, he’d still want to fight.
TenguPhule
@Percysowner:
I can’t see this ending well. At all.
jl
I don’t know what to do about the corporate media’s horrible reporting.
I think is possible to talk about Trump and policy at the same time.
Because, Trump is bad, and has bad policies. It’s not a reach.
So Trump is bad, Trump has bad policies, here are some good policies instead. Should be easy to connect them.
Corporate media won’t report it, so will have to bypass them for general, with door knocking and similar local outreach.
Steve in the ATL
@Corner Stone: I did when i thought we were talking about fries. But I realized that “poutine” is code for something freaky-deaky….
SiubhanDuinne
@Mary G:
And then there’s Steve ….
Shalimar
@TenguPhule: Yes, it sucks horribly that Republicans intentionally fuck up the deficit over and over and over, forcing Democrats to fix it. But the economy would be even worse off if it wasn’t fixed, and all of us have to live in that economy, not just Republicans.
TenguPhule
Via FTFNYT.
JPL
@Steve in the ATL: Good. Your heart thanks you.
SiubhanDuinne
@Amir Khalid:
Kind of like the difference between Polish and polish, only not nearly as sexxxxy.
Shana
@TenguPhule: Oh yeah, run on that this fall GOP.
JPL
@Steve in the ATL: Good frittes with mayo is okay.
chris
@TenguPhule:
Wait until tomorrow, I’m sure he’ll come up with something. He probably doesn’t know that our special ops people are in Iraq and Syria alongside the US military. Of course we also have people in Ukraine so that may be annoying his boss.
TenguPhule
@chris: You guys interested in annexing Hawaii?
M4
@TenguPhule: leaving aside whatever Pelosi might be thinking:
1. Paygo is IIRC easily waived
2. Yes, we are starting in a hole because of the tax cuts—the first move in any major legislation should be repealing them.
TenguPhule
@JPL:
Mayo is not okay.
Peale
@TenguPhule: none of those “globalist” companies are worth anything to Trump. Appaantly the only industries that matter are rural farmers and coal miners. Basically a trade war over 19th century issues.
JPL
@chris: With Trump there is always something more offensive.
geg6
@TenguPhule:
That is hilarious.
Mike J
@dmsilev:
Whaddya think the canuck letter was about? WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
Steve in the ATL
@JPL: mais bien sûr!
@TenguPhule: mais oui—c’est bon avec frites
Ruviana
@Amir Khalid: Continuing evidence of the importance of punctuation (and spelling and grammar).
chris
@TenguPhule: You have to get in line behind Turks and Caicos.
Shana
Seems kinda quiet here tonight. Is everyone watching hockey? We’re switching back and forth between that and MSNBC. Of course, we’re in the DC area and my brother lives in Vegas.
Ruckus
@rikyrah:
Almost impossible not to keep it. The shit has been bulldozed into the fan every second for the last, well it seems like forever, and at this moment it doesn’t look like it’s going to stop. At some point it will and then it will be clean up. “Massive bullshit spill on the entire USA, all hands man your rubber gloves, gas masks, bleach and paper towels. All republicans are required to get on their hands and knees and clean up every last gram from every nook and cranny. If you get stepped on or kicked, tough noggies.”
M4
@TenguPhule: you’re dead to me.
JPL
@TenguPhule: lol That is something I had as a child. My youngest son hates mayo on anything, except on frittes. Because of his job, he spent a lot of time in Brussels.. It’s a thing. I blame Trudeau and the EU.
Amir Khalid
@TenguPhule:
Apparently, you don’t remember that conversation in Pulp Fiction about how European people eat fries.
Ruckus
@Cheryl Rofer:
drumpf = Pendejo
That one word of truth says it all.
JPL
@Steve in the ATL: Mayo should not be wasted on regular fries though. I hope you sleep better tonight.
M4
@JPL: mayonnaise is basically made of the three cheapest ingredients. It’s hard to “waste” (though you can certainly waste fine mayo).
Jim, Foolish Literalist
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne: Ah, the voice of Issa.
MJS
@TenguPhule: You don’t see something ending well? Get outta here.
Mary G
@rikyrah: Every time I think my anger is diminishing I read something like this:
So she is being sent back to her country where those rebels are now in charge. It’s enough that the administration does such monstrous things, but that they are bragging about it as an accomplishment makes me want to vomit.
Corner Stone
@M4:
Protestations of love from a hooker, a reused hypodermic needle and a CD of Eddie Murphy’s Greatest Music Hits?
Corner Stone
@Mary G: How can DoJ over rule a judge’s order?
debbie
@M4:
Is this where I wax eloquent over the deliciousness of a peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwich? ?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule:
Well, they did burn down the White House in 1814.
B.B.A.
News from north of the border: the Canadian Senate just passed cannabis legalization.
EDIT: and Rob Ford’s brother is the new premier of Ontario so they’re gonna need it.
GregB
Trump is the King of Lies. A year and a half in and the US is treating Canada as an enemy and North Korea as a desired ally.
SiubhanDuinne
@Steve in the ATL:
C’est vrai.
James Powell
I don’t recall any of these pundits warning the Republicans that they shouldn’t base their 2010 midterm campaign on “OMG! The president is a ni-clang!” when “anger about Obamacare” was polite code for “OMG! The president is a ni-clang!”
M4
@debbie: don’t need my permission.
Sab
@debbie: Urk. My husband says that is a wonderful samdwich. I love both ingredients, but I dunno.
Mary G
And the descent into fascism continues:
Felony Govt (formerly Old Broad in California)
I’m so sick of articles saying Dem need to “run on something, not just against Trump”. I’ve never seen this kind of fury against a president or against any political figure. Damn right we should harness it.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
because of course he is
Steve in the ATL
@JPL: thanks—me too. Uh, #MeToo. Since she can’t lie flat owing to her acute abdominal pain, she can sleep in the chair tonight and I’ll take the bed!
raven
Steve in the ATL
@debbie: my stepfather’s go-to sandwich was PBJ&M. It actually tasted good, once you got past the mental block of a PBJ with mayo on it.
Amir Khalid
@Felony Govt (formerly Old Broad in California):
I am but a foreigner, and one resident on the other side of the planet. But Trump presents a clear and present danger to America and the world, and I happen to think that running against him absolutely essential to preserve your country.
SiubhanDuinne
@ Any and all Canadian Juicers, especially Ontarians:
Have been in contact with many friends and relations today, who live in places from Toronto to Thunder Bay, from Ottawa to Windsor, from Tobermory to Guelph. To a person, they are voting (or have voted); and to a person, they are profoundly unhappy with their choices.
Would love some BJuicy on-the-ground takes. How didn’t you vote, and why, and what stories should we be following?
B.B.A.
@Felony Govt (formerly Old Broad in California):
I have. I’m old enough to remember the Tea Party.
Now, as justified fury goes, this is something new.
Mandalay
@Mary G: That story is really bad, but not quite as Chris Hayes painted it. First, Hayes carefully cherry-picked what he told us, second he provided no link for his “scoop”, and third his claim that “they managed to deport a woman” seems to be false (so far).
Here are more details from CNN:
So it is a horrible situation that shouldn’t exist, but the main takeaways seem to be that:
– She hasn’t been deported yet.
– This was a court ruling, and it seems that current law is inadequate (not that I expect the Republicans to do anything about that).
Steeplejack
@Steve in the ATL:
Three words: “Tater Tot Poutine.”
Gvg
I wonder if it’s possible to explain the parable of the golden apples to Trump. It’s praiseworthy to gain new allies or make peace with old enemies only if you don’t lose 10 times as many allies as you already had. As pessimistic as I was about Trump, I never dreamed he could make enemies of Canada and a lot of Europe.
Is it possible he is an agent of multiple enemy countries?
I want to see his greed head rich backers like the Kochs and Mercers and Murdoch lose tons of money. I wish their was a way to make the Trump little guy morons lose money without screwing the innocent too. Like me. Florida went Trump to my shock and I am sure our tourism is down. I really want to get out of this without too much harm but at the same time I want certain conservative theories thoroughly discredited. It’s obvious lessons of the past have been forgotten. Europe too by the way.
Gin & Tonic
@JPL: Mayo has nothing to do with poutine.
Gin & Tonic
@Steeplejack: Three other words: go fuck yourself.
Zinsky
The DNC should be mass-producing t-shirts with the most unflattering picture of Trump on it and one of these three captions on it in massive letters: “Rapist” “Pervert” or “Degenerate”. The Repukes did it to Bill Clinton – we need to take the kid gloves off and relentlessly hammer this deviant with every name and epithet we can throw at this pig.
raven
@Gvg: We are at the beach right now and we rent from friends who tell us rentals are down.
dexwood
Always late to the party, I am. Every dog I’ve been a servant to over the last 50 years has loved watermelon. Dexter held a slice between his paws and ate it much the same way. That dog had good manners, was never messy.
Corner Stone
@Steve in the ATL:
It’s no wonder you were such an easy mark for Public Enemy #1, the vixen from the Canadiana North.
Brachiator
@Felony Govt (formerly Old Broad in California):
Why not both? Reminding me that Trump is a bad man gets you in the door, but you got to follow through with how you are going to solve the problems that Trump and the GOP have created. It is not enough to say “We’re the Democrats. We’re nice people and we shit sunshine.”
And it should not be hard because the Democrats DO have good ideas.
Also, advice from pundits is meaningless. I look to them for informed analysis. And since I know they are useless for this purpose, that leaves mockery.
cain
@Mnemosyne:
Oh yeah.. and he’s going to say the whole house is illegal. He’ll try to use the executive branch against them. Meanwhile, there will be some serious investigations of all things Trump and Pence. In actuality, we should go after Pence first. The Orange Menace will self destruct by himself.
Zinsky
Further, the Democrats should propose legislation, in a very loud, public way, designating 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in D.C. as the residence of a known sex offender!
chris
@SiubhanDuinne: One of my sisters lives in the 905. She’s close to tears, her husband is celebrating. They’ve been together for nearly 40 years, go figure.
ETA I’m close to tears too.
Brachiator
@Gvg:
Yep. You nailed it. And I would think that the way that Trump has alienated allies would alarm the GOP leadership. But nope.
It is strange to watch. I can’t imagine that Putin paid very much for their craven capitulation.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Brachiator:
In fact, that’s all I’ve ever heard from Dems running. They’re running on issues that are actually important to people as well as criticizing Trump. Let the Party of Trump run on culture warrior bullshit like the NFL (not saying that the President bullying a private business to silence its employees isn’t a serious problem; it can be pushed back on as well) as that’s all they’ve got basically. The Democrats will run on education, healthcare, voting rights, and actually giving a shit about our national security as well as being a check on Trump/GOP.
Ruckus
@raven:
Was walking by a chip stand in Amsterdam and they smelled great. Bought a serving and asked for catsoup. The guy looked at me like I’d called his mother a whore. Pointed to the mayo. When in Rome and all that so I tried it. Haven’t had catsoup since. Had a burger and fries for lunch today, asked for mayo for the fries. 46 yrs I’ve been eating them that way. Sure it’s crap on my health but it does taste good.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I don’t always love Lawrence O’Donnell, but I do love him in IDGAF mode, like right now when he’s detailing Rudi G’s unsavory personal life and scoffing impolitely at the idea that anybody, Melania first and foremost, doesn’t know trump had a fling with Stormy Daniels.
Steeplejack
@Ruckus:
Right, because ketchup would be so much healthier.
I will occasionally have mayonnaise on the burger. Yeah, I said it.
debbie
@Steve in the ATL:
Jelly. Ewww.
schrodingers_cat
@Steeplejack: I like ketchup with fries. If you have access to an Indian grocery store, try Maggi’s ketchup. Its zestier than regular Heinz or Hunt’s.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
White House Analysis Finds Tariffs Will Hurt Growth, as Officials Insist Otherwise, via FTFNYT
Don’t worry. For those worried that an improving economy will help the GOP in the midterms, aside from that not working for the Dems in 1994, the tariffs will fix that.
raven
@Ruckus: We’re doing one more day of beach life and then back to the South Beach. We’re going to try to kickstart this retirement gig with a heavy dose of fitness!
Barbara
@Steeplejack: Some of my Brazilian au pairs ate mayonnaise on pizza. I couldn’t even watch. Mayonnaise is pure fat. Ketchup is salty but less caloric.
M4
@schrodingers_cat: Japan also has some high quality ketchups. Can’t recall the brand.
Steeplejack
@schrodingers_cat:
I like ketchup, too. I just don’t see a condiment as make or break to your health. And it was a joke anyway.
Thanks for the tip. I will look for Maggi.
Ruckus
@Steeplejack:
Well to be honest I’ve been a fan of mayo on sandwiches for basically my entire life. Haven’t made one recently but I used to eat avocado and mayo sandwiches. Of course we had a tree in our front yard that produced so many that we’d give away paper shopping bags full almost weekly when it was in season. Damn they were good. What you get in the market is not even close. Why is most everything not as good as when you were a kid? Maybe our memories really are crap.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
yeah, as someone who would cheerfully eat french fries every day, putting mayo or ketchup on them doesn’t strike me as the big nutritional question…
and isn’t mayonnaise just eggs and vegetable oil? It’s not like it’s one of the those evil refined carbs!
Steeplejack
@M4:
Japan also has some good mayonnaise.
rikyrah
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions is EVIL??
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1004860175495454725?s=20
raven
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: sugar
Steeplejack
@Barbara:
Like I said . . .
That said, mayonnaise on pizza is right out. But then I think pineapple on pizza is right out. Tastes differ.
Elizabelle
Sounds like there’s a rather good hockey game right now …
Amir Khalid
@Steeplejack:
How do you feel about Nestle? Some people disapprove strongly enough to avoid its products, including anything with the Maggi brand.
Ruckus
Speaking of better times, one of the things I’d like to remember is a day that something doesn’t hurt or do weird things like tremor, or cramp or seize or wake up after a full nights sleep feeling worse than when you went to bed. And no one seems to know what it is or what to do about it.
Fun times.
Steeplejack
@Ruckus:
Maybe our taste buds are dying.
raven
@Amir Khalid:
Speaking of Nestle and dogs!
chris
I like fries with almost anything but the best were in France. Handcut, fried in lard and served with a side of Bearnaise sauce. Done died and gone to heaven good, heart health be damned.
Elizabelle
@Ruckus: Ah no. I wish they could get a handle on that and fix it.
Now, about french fries: I like mayo, but Russian dressing is even better. And honey mustard (not the true Slingblade, but close). Catsup is kinda sweet. I bet siracha catsup would be good. Or some wasabi, if it’s not too hot ….
raven
@Ruckus: Fuck man, I did an 8 hr deep sea trip Tuesday and I slept for 12 hrs when I got back. We were in 300ft of water cranking big fish and heavy bottom weights. I still hurt all over (of course I fished from 5am to noon and then 5 to 8:30)!
rikyrah
The demons are after your healthcare AGAIN??
https://twitter.com/sam_baker/status/1004871991374045190?s=20
chris
@Barbara: A French friend puts ketchup on pizza. Beyond weird.
Steeplejack
@Amir Khalid:
Nestlé the company? Don’t have any opinion, really. Guess I’m not up on their current or recent atrocities. And I certainly didn’t know that Maggi, which I first heard of tonight, is one of their brands.
Brachiator
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Here is what is extra disgusting about all this. Melania issued a statement stressing that she has never discussed this with Rudy G and he has no idea what her thoughts on this might be.
But Rudy G said what a mere woman says doesn’t matter because he believes that Trump would not bang a scuzzy piece of meat like Daniels. So, while pretending to defend Melania’s honor, he demeans and dismisses her. It is wild to watch such blatant anti-woman strutting. It’s like Rudy wants the whole world see him kissing Trump’s ass.
Link to Rudy’s comments and Melania’s denial.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/07/politics/melania-trump-rudy-giuliani/index.html
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Barbara: @Steeplejack: I cannot imagine a pizza that I would put mayonnaise on
according to Jeff Ross, trump gets a small dish of mayonnaise to dip his cheeseburgers in
229 my ass
M4
@Steeplejack: I figured that went without saying.
Elizabelle
@raven: That’s a good ventriloquist.
I wish Trump had one.
@chris: Bernaise. Perfect.
raven
@Elizabelle: I always remember that commercial and the way the doggie says Chocolatteeee!
Steeplejack
@M4:
Not checking your work, just offering my opinion.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@rikyrah: these are two smart people, I hope they’re right about this
I’ve been watching MSNBC off and on tonight– have any of their hosts brought this up?
eclare
@Ruckus: Picked up the habit of vinegar on my chips when I lived in London
Ruckus
@Steeplejack:
Actually you taste with your nose more than your taste buds. So if your smeller goes, food has very little taste. You taste buds pretty much tell you sweet, salty, sour, bitter. And you get texture. I know this first hand, my smeller has flown the coup.
Fun times.
Ruckus
@raven:
I’d call that a good hurt. A proper reason to feel that way. FISHING!.
Amir Khalid
@Steeplejack:
Google “Nestle controversy”, and you get this.
Elizabelle
@raven: That was one blase dog.
Ruckus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
229 is his ass. Just his ass. That’s his physical ass BTW. For all intents and purposes he is all ass. It’s just that he weighs more than his physical ass, which weighs 229 lb.
Ruckus
@eclare:
Never been a fan of vinegar. Even vinegar and oil salad dressing.
Gin & Tonic
@schrodingers_cat: Eastern Europeans use Maggi seasoning liberally, in lots of things. It’s probably just concentrated MSG.
Brachiator
@Ruckus:
Umami, savory, is said by some to be another taste for the buds.
Steve in the ATL
@M4: Dijon ketchup?
Steeplejack
@Amir Khalid:
Looks like my Nestlé exposure is slight. I will have to talk to the housecat about her Fancy Feast consumption, however.
Gin & Tonic
@chris: IIRC, you’re in Halifax or something? Take a drive down to Portland, Maine, and eat the fries at a restaurant called Duckfat. You’ll thank me later. And you’ll forget all about France.
Steeplejack
@Steve in the ATL:
Dojo ketchup. “You’ll feel the kick.”™
Barbara
@Gin & Tonic: Or buy a duck breast and trim some of the fat off the back and render it in a pan and then roast potatoes in the fat while you pan sear the duck breast.
Steve in the ATL
@Amir Khalid: I avoid nestle whenever possible. Along with Chik-fil-a and hobby lobby and Goldman Sachs…I could go on but I’ll stop here.
chris
@Gin & Tonic: Hey thanks. I’m headed that way in a couple of weeks.
Gin & Tonic
@chris: Just don’t mention it to your cardiologist.
chris
@Gin & Tonic: That’s OK, I don’t have one. Yet.
Steve in the ATL
@Steeplejack: concur. Mayo and pineapple have no place on pizza. Nor does ketchup, not even dojo ketchup.
Yutsano
@Steeplejack: Japanese mayo is…weird. And I hate mayo as a rule. But takoyaki without some Japanese mayo just isn’t.
I’m also imagining tater tots fried in duck fat now…
Steve in the ATL
@Steeplejack: I haven’t read the Bible in a while, but I’m pretty sure that Tater Tot Poutine was one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
Bobby Thomson
@Gin & Tonic:
It’s just soy sauce.
J R in WV
@Steeplejack:
WE always thought pineapple on ‘Za was right out. Then we went to a pizza place before seeing Gov’t Mule a couple of months ago with neighbors, and between us we ordered 4 flavors of ‘Za. One of them had small pieces of pineapple and two flavors of pork.
There were 6 pieces, and more pizza than the four of us could eat, so I tried it. It was pretty good, I added some red pepper flakes on it, and enjoyed it. Wouldn’t get the whole pizza that style, but as an odd-ball trial run it was OK.
Thai curry shrimp style is one o my favorites.
J R in WV
@Steeplejack:
Nestlé the vast company made a huge effort to sell infant formula all over the world, as it’s hugely profitable. They told women it was healthier for their babies than nursing with mother’s milk. Of course that’s a lie.
It’s especially not true where powdered formula is mixed with rural water which can contain anything, in Africa, for example. Using the only water available, from streams or wells, to mix formula several times a day, as without electricity and refrigeration, it won’t keep for more than a couple of hours.
So babies died for Nestlé’s profits. And that’s the story of why people boycott Nestlé products.