Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

He seems like a smart guy, but JFC, what a dick!

So fucking stupid, and still doing a tremendous amount of damage.

Dear Washington Post, you are the darkness now.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.

Bad people in a position to do bad things will do bad things because they are bad people. End of story.

DeSantis transforming Florida into 1930s Germany with gators and theme parks.

If you are still in the gop, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

The real work of an opposition party is to hold the people in power accountable.

They punch you in the face and then start crying because their fist hurts.

Stay strong, because they are weak.

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

Sometimes the world just tells you your cat is here.

Finding joy where we can, and muddling through where we can’t.

“Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on.”

Speaker Mike Johnson is a vile traitor to the House and the Constitution.

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

They want us to be overwhelmed and exhausted. Focus. Resist. Oppose.

We’re watching the self-immolation of the leading world power on a level unprecedented in human history.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

One lie, alone, tears the fabric of reality.

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I gotta admit, I’m always a little nervous when I don’t check the website for 24 hours and then go to see whether or not the ship is still afloat or if there is just a smoldering wreck listing portside with a couple random commenters fighting in the lifeboats. At any rate, good to see things are still ok.

My mom is out of town for the week (she told me what she is doing but I didn’t pay attention but I know she is somewhere in Delaware with a friend) so dad and I drove up to my sister’s house in Pittsburgh and then went to a couple nurseries. There’s a big place up there that we go to called Trax Farms which is just massive, but the prices are ridiculous and the place was super crowded, so we went down the road to another place and picked up some perennials (bee balm, etc.) for the backyard and a couple junipers, barberry’s and the like for the front.

On the way home we stopped at a Greek place for lunch, and I had dawali, tabouli, and lentil soup with feta, and dad had the lentil soup and a rolled pita with falafel.

The soup was gone so fast it didn’t get a picture. Now I’m just sitting on the front porch enjoying the rain storm. We’ve gotten so much rain this year that everything is just so lush and green- it looks like a rain forest driving around this area:

I do so like my wicker chairs and just sitting on the porch. It’s nice. Although I think I am now going to go upstairs and play some Guild Wars 2.

DID YOU ALL SEE THE CYBERPUNK 2077 and FALLOUT 1976 TRAILERS!!!!!!!!!!

*** Update ***

I just looked out my bathroom window into the back yard. I probably shouldn’t have.

I guess next summer I need to think about drainage…

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  4. 4.

    Adam L Silverman

    So you stopped at a Greek restaurant and had Palestinian and Lebanese food. Nicely played!

  9. 9.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: I love General Tso’s moussaka! It dates from the time that Athens tried to invade the Middle Kingdom. Only certain editions of Thucydides include Alciabiades ill considered and ill fated China campaign!//

  10. 10.

    Adam L Silverman

    @chopper: That was a diner.//

    More seriously, I’m aware. We have a number in this area and one of the smaller places a few miles away does falafel. So when I get a craving, that’s where I go.

  13. 13.

    Dorothy Winsor

    Raw Story has an item saying Trump told Pence that he didn’t want any “crazy talk” coming out the WH while he was gone. I had to read that three times because my brain kept rejecting it. Irony is dead.

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    @jk: Ovechkin will take it home to Russia and show it to Putin, who he supports. Putin will then do the same thing he did with Bob Kraft’s Super Bowl ring: keep it. And the NHL will then have to come up with something else to hand out to the winning team next year.

  17. 17.

    geg6

    Lots of rain here, too, but not to that level! Jesus, Cole, how much rain are you getting down there?

    As for food here, I made the best baby back ribs on the grill that I’ve ever eaten. Damn, they were good, if I do say so myself. Yams with cinnamon butter and roasted carrots rounded things out. But those ribs were outstanding! Vanilla bean cake and ice cream for dessert and chilling with the Bourdain tribute on CNN to close a quiet, rainy Sunday here in Beaver County, PA.

  18. 18.

    Pete Mack

    Are barberries invasive in your region? They are pretty much everywhere on the East Coast where there is a deer overpopulation. And they are a nightmare to pull: long yellow take pot, protected by evil prickers.

  19. 19.

    Achrachno

    “Trump told Pence that he didn’t want any “crazy talk” coming out the WH while he was gone. ”

    It’s his turf and he wants no one else on it.

  23. 23.

    Achrachno

    “long yellow take pot” tap root, I presume. The yellow layer beneath the bark is characteristic of that and its relatives. Weird feature.

  29. 29.

    debbie

    PBS is fundraising, and I’m watching a Leonard Cohen tribute. It’s surprisingly good.

  30. 30.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Dorothy Winsor: The Kuwaiti officer I supervised my last year at USAWC used to order from them. Despite a number of good Greek restaurants – both dedicated Greek restaurants and diners – in the Harrisburg to Camp Hill to Mechanicsburg to Carlisle area, he deemed Shatila’s baklava and other Levantine desserts to be superior.

  38. 38.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @jk:

    From one of the Twitter comments: “Kremlin Barbie.” That’s pretty good.

  39. 39.

    schrodingers_cat

    I has porch and deck envy. I repotted two palms today. Large terracotta and porcelain pots can be so expensive, I have exhausted most of the supply I collected from last year’s yard sales and such. I have to go hunting again..

  40. 40.

    CliosFanBoy

    did someone adopt the cute little puppy in the DC area? I wish we could take him, but we have 3, and they all have medical bills as it is…

  41. 41.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    Anglophiles: I saw headlines this weekend about the “Trooping the Color” ceremonies in Britain. I always thought it was “Trooping of the Colors.” (Which I think I saw once when I was a little kid.) What gives? (And don’t come at me with any colour crap.)

  42. 42.

    Caphilldcne

    @Adam L Silverman: I’m still celebrating. SO happy for the win that I didn’t even care about the Ivanka thing. That’s just sort of a function of Cafe Milano – can’t afford it really. I’m pretty sure Canada will declare war on Putin when (not if) this happens. I’ve shared Caps season tickets for years now and frankly beating the Pens and then closing out the cup has been thrilling. Can’t do the parade Tuesday – too many meetings.

  43. 43.

    Bobby Thomson

    Rain garden. Helps with drainage, reduces runoff of fertilizers and pesticides, and provides habitat.

  44. 44.

    Ohio Mom

    @zhena gogolia: I am probably the only person in my extended family who isn’t watching to see if Sponge Bob wins an award for set design (or whatever the category is). My cousin’s son and his business partner built the Rube Goldberg machines that are part of the set (they got the job because they had been on the winning team at Purdue’s engineering department’s Goldberg machine contest).

    I normally try to show family spirit but I am also the only cousin whose child was of the age when Sponge Bob aired (everyone else started their families much earlier than I did). I have seen enough Sponge Bob for my entire life.

  46. 46.

    JPL

    What a nice tribute to Melody Herzfeld, the drama teacher at Parkland High School who sheltered 65 students. It’s quite remarkable.

  51. 51.

    JPL

    The asshole awakens and once again is tweeting. Where is Jeff Flake and McCain when we need them. Oh yeah, they are hiding behind their own tweets.

  52. 52.

    zhena gogolia

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    He was telling an anecdote about clashing with Harvey Weinstein when he was hosting a fundraiser for Clinton. HW asked him to cut out jokes and he said he wouldn’t. Then “Hillary came out of her coffin” and told him he had to cut the jokes.

  55. 55.

    eemom

    @Adam L Silverman:

    So you stopped at a Greek restaurant and had Palestinian and Lebanese food.

    Zactly.

    I had dawali, tabouli, and lentil soup with feta, and dad had the lentil soup and a rolled pita with falafel.

    Dawali ain’t nothing I ever heard of (they speak English in Dawali?) Greeks don’t do tabouli or falafel. Those things on the left look like they might be dolmathes, which are Greek, as is feta; but real Greeks do NOT put feta on dolmathes. OR lentil soup.

    Real Greeks also don’t do pita. Real Greek bread, which I’ve never seen in the united states, is delicious.

  58. 58.

    SFAW

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I love General Tso’s moussaka!

    It scares me not a little that I was thinking of the same comment/reply.

    Two possible meanings of this: either I’m becoming a geopolitical security (etc.) expert, or Adam’s becoming a self-involved moron. I’m hoping for the former. If I’m wrong: Sincerest apologies, Adam.

  59. 59.

    chris

    I’m with the tweeters. If Kremlin Barbie touched it Vlad can keep the Cup. Hey, maybe he’ll catch something.

  67. 67.

    zhena gogolia

    Kind of insulting that they mixed up the tributes to ALW and Chita Rivera rather than doing one each.

  69. 69.

    SiubhanDuinne

    My mom is out of town for the week (she told me what she is doing but I didn’t pay attention

    Never change, John.

  72. 72.

    different-church-lady

    @Dorothy Winsor:

    Trump told Pence that he didn’t want any “crazy talk” coming out the WH while he was gone.

    “That’s my job, Mike, and my job alone!”

  74. 74.

    Barbara

    @Adam L Silverman: Putin keeping the Stanley Cup seems like such a potent metaphor for Putin in general: stealing, cheating, lying, whatever he can do to make everything worse for everyone including his own country. That Trump thinks Russia belongs in the G7 is amusing. Russia’s economy is about the size of Spain’s.

  75. 75.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @zhena gogolia: Did you get the 500 donors in 500 hours thing from LU today? I figured that I would go for it as I always donate this month anyway.

  77. 77.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Adam L Silverman: It seems to be a growing trend around here to have multi-ethnic Asian food: Chinese, Thai, Japanese, and others all on the same menu. My favorite downtown Pho place was the first one I ate at regularly that was doing that, but the non-Vietnamese stuff on their menu tended to not be great.

    But out here in the burbs is a Chinese (I think) owner with a full sushi and bento menu, plus Thai and Chinese, and I haven’t found a loser yet.

    Then there’s the Afghani guy who makes his own version of all sorts of things, like Tandoori chicken, Greek Moussaka and Indian Palak Paneer. They aren’t bad but don’t really taste like the authentic stuff.

  82. 82.

    lamh36

    Evening BJ.

    Spent my day at work, and afterwards hanging with my sis to watch the first Incredibles movie…so I can be ready for Incredibles 2 next weekend.

    It’s been 14 years since the first film.. My sister joked that there will be as many adults without kids seeing the film as there are likely to be kids seeing it…LOL

  83. 83.

    Jeffro

    Wow…did not realize so many talented actors had departed the stage for good this past year

  87. 87.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Steve in the ATL: I thought fusion was when you mix ethnicities in the same dishes and make something new that combines elements of both.

    These are just different cuisines offered on the same menu, all tasting pretty much like the real thing (or the real thing as much as I know it from single-ethnicity restaurants).

  92. 92.

    lamh36

    I hope these Parkland kids have someone to talk to…come mahn…they are doing the works, but they are just barely out of high school…and they have to have some sort of PTSD…and with the NRA loons fuq’ing with them..

    @davidhogg111
    Politics is all spectacle and I hate it.

    8:10 PM – Jun 10, 2018
    twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1005980536618315782

  93. 93.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    The MLB channel had the Senators game on yesterday. A bunch of the Caps were there with the Cup. Ovechkin and the gang were pounding beers all game long. They were having a blast.

  94. 94.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @zhena gogolia: If you gave, you are good. I always wait for June. I have a friend who was visiting his 1-2 y/o grandfather in Antigo who posted some LU and College Ave. photos. There are new buildings but they don’t change the character of the place. When my ex saw it, she said it was like going to school in a park.

  97. 97.

    Adam L Silverman

    @SFAW: There’s a third possibility: it was the obvious play on words. The fallback was sweet and sour moussaka.

  99. 99.

    Schlemazel

    @Adam L Silverman:
    We have had a Middle Eastern community in St. Paul for 60 years, they always presented their restaurants as “Greek” . Even before the bigotry of the last 30 years it seemed more familiar. The other one is “Mediterranean” which is not wrong but paired with Greek images it was misleading.

  100. 100.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Barbara: And Putin doesn’t really want to be in the G7. Except, perhaps, as a disruptor. But since he’s got one in the G7 on the payroll, he doesn’t have to do anything directly.

  101. 101.

    Another Scott

    This made me chuckle, so I had to share. SCMP:

    Bitcoin extended losses for a third day, tumbling as much as 12 per cent Sunday as South Korean cryptocurrency exchange Coinrail said there was a “cyber intrusion” in its system.

    The largest cryptocurrency declined to US$6,840 as of 4pm in New York, the biggest drop since March 14, according to data compiled by Bloomberg from Bitstamp pricing. That widens Bitcoin’s losses for the year to 52 per cent. Peer cryptocurrencies Ethereum and Ripple fell 10 per cent and 11 per cent, respectively.

    Coinrail confirmed in a statement on its website that some of the exchange’s digital currency appears to have been stolen by hackers, but it did not quantify its value. Coinrail only said that it was cooperating with investigators and other exchanges to try and track down the perpetrators and recover the money.

    The central security problem with digital currencies is that the money itself is typically represented by little more than a unique numerical code, which means the owner is wiped out if that data is ever stolen.

    Coinrail said it’s reviewing its system due to hacking attempts. The exchange said it has managed to freeze all exposed NPXS, NPER and ATX coins, and that other cryptocurrencies are now being kept in a cold wallet. The statement is the only content available on the exchange’s homepage, and contact information could not immediately be located.

    The exchange trades more than 50 different cryptocurrencies and was the 98th largest, with a 24-hour volume of about $2.65 million, according to data from Coinmarketcap.com.

    (Emphasis added.)

    So much for all the hype about blockchain being secure by design, and Bitcoin being so wonderful compared to “fiat money”, and the Winklevoss Twins being so brilliant, and so forth.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  103. 103.

    Schlemazel

    @Dorothy Winsor:
    The Detroit area (particularly out by Plymouth) has a solid ME community & the very best ME food I have ever had. We have good places here but not the number or the very high highs of Detroit.

  104. 104.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: The guy who owned the Chinese buffet in Carlisle opened a much higher end place near the base that did nicer Chinese food, thai, Japanese, and had a great sushi bar.

    I’ve noticed a lot of Thai restaurants have sushi bars in them these days. And the local, family owned and run Malaysian restaurant I go to has a very nice sushi bar in addition to the excellent Malaysian food.

  105. 105.

    Gemina13

    I’m loving my little apartment, but I do miss a porch. There’s nothing like sitting out in fine weather with some good snacks and drinks, book in hand, and letting the world go by. Unless it’s daydreaming about Kremlin Barbie and her pet suck-up, er, husband, being hauled off in matching cuffs by Mueller.

    I love Greek restaurants; they did fusion well before it was cool. There were places in Chicago where you could get cheeseburgers and gyros, and sometimes I think, what if you made a gyroburger? By then, I’m starving for a good gyro or doner kebab, and heading off to a great place in Burien that serves both. Because a doner kebab is the next best thing to an actual gyro burger slathered with tzatziki and topped with onions and cucumber.

    But when it comes to fusion, I really love the teriyaki places in Washington. You may get the standard menu of teriyaki, donburi, udon, and sushi – and sometimes there’s pho, pad thai, and a mix of Chinese, Thai, and Vietnamese dishes on the menu. And it’s all good. I’ve had panang curry at a couple of my favorite teriyaki joints that made authentic Thai restaurants’ efforts look weak. And appearances can be deceiving; I remember going into a place in Longview, which looked like a dump, and hoping just to get a decent plate of teriyaki chicken. I ended up with a huge bowl of beef donburi, and stuffing myself in utter bliss.

    I’d still love to find a place that served crispy orange beef burritos, or Peking duck tacos. ::sigh::

    Now I’m hungry again. It’s been a long day, so dinner is chili dogs. The chicken panang curry will wait until tomorrow – unless I decide to try my hand at making General Tso’s shrimp with noodles.

  107. 107.

    Schlemazel

    @debbie:
    If it is the one I saw I thought it was miserable. KD Lang absolutely destroys “Hallelujah” and several other proved they don’t have the talent to carry the songs Cohan wrote. I was very disappointed, particularly with Lang who does a very good job on that song usually.

  108. 108.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Peale: Have you been to Hymie’s House of Hunan? You’ve not lived until you’ve had a sweet and sour matzoh ball!//

  113. 113.

    lamh36

    Alright, now that UnSung is over, let me check the DVR to see what I missed on the Tony Awards.

    Ooh… ok…I know he’s like what 90…but Mikhail Baryshnikov might could still get it…IJS…

    Don’t judge me!

    Like they say, the thing you are exposed to as a teen really does impress on you… one of the first movies I recall seeing in a theatre was White Nights…and that’s when my love of Gregory Hines and Baryshnikov began…and continues today. Oh and Lionel Ritchie… I swear I love me some “Say You Say Me”!

  116. 116.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Schlemazel: There’s a lot of that. There is an Iranian family that owns a great restaurant in Clearwater. Does both Iranian and Levantine food. But it is listed as a Mediterranean restaurant. Not Levantine. Not Lebanese. Not Iranian.

  121. 121.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Gemina13: My favorite pizza is gyro meat, feta cheese, and pitted Greek olives on a mozzarella and tomato sauce pie.

  122. 122.

    eemom

    @Gemina13:

    As someone alluded to above, there’s a difference between a Greek restaurant and a Greek diner. Greek diners serve all kinds of food, including both real Greek, what you’re calling fusion, and not Greek at all. They just happen to be owned by Greeks, and there are millions of them in NYC, which is where I grew up.

    Greek restaurants serve actual Greek dishes.

  125. 125.

    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)

    @Steve in the ATL:

    the kids call it “fusion”

    Then the kids are doing it wrong, unless they are ordering a la carte, and even then it’s an approximation. I am pretty sure fusion requires a blending of traditional flavors. Or hydrogen.
    ETA what @Ceci n est pas mon nym: said.

  128. 128.

    Schlemazel

    @Adam L Silverman:
    We have some very good friends, Mrs went to school with her, he is a Palestinian. They have run their own restaurant for 30 years under the “Mediterranean” banner. I don’t blame them it has never been popular to be a Palestinian & it has been downright dangerous for them the last 20. The funny thing is we have eaten with them & the food they have at home is different from what they sell. Part of it is cost (few people – if any – will pay for top quality foods) but part of it is adjusting for American tastes. It took them a bit before they believed me when I told them I wanted to eat the same stuff the same way they did. I’ll be honest & say some of it I would rather have the Americanized version of but the others are so much better I never want to have it any other way.

  129. 129.

    Alexi

    @chris: might be related to all the clay that guy brought instead of topsoil— clay blocks infiltration. We have used rain gardens as cheap and effective water control.

  133. 133.

    Achrachno

    @Another Scott: There have been other thefts of this sort. That early bitcoin exchange that got a lot of hype a couple of years ago, Mt. Gox or something like that, was wiped out I believe. Maybe an inside job.

  134. 134.

    Another Scott

    @Omnes Omnibus: Adam:

    I went to an ENT a few weeks ago after having a terrible time this year. He prescribed an antihistamine spray – Azelastine. He said “if it doesn’t start working instantly, call back and we’ll schedule an MRI of your sinuses…”

    It really does start working instantly. The “I have to blow my nose right now” feeling goes away after about 10 minutes.

    It finally reduced the swelling in my sinuses enough that the periodic sinus infections I was getting ended.

    I know everyone is different, but I was amazed how well it worked (and works) for me.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  136. 136.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Schlemazel: The real deal food is amazing. And, unfortunately, what you describe them having to do out of the necessity of safety is the reality in “the land of the free and the home of the brave”.

  141. 141.

    Achrachno

    @Shell: There was an article in the LA Times this morning by a climate researcher confirming the idea that in our changing climate the wet areas will get even more, and the dry areas will get less. Can I borrow a gallon or two?

  145. 145.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Steeplejack (tablet): That’s where I first encountered and got hooked on it. I lived at those Tudor style apartments just past the corner of Briarcliff and LaVista. So I could walk less then a block to the Kosher butcher and deli on the same side of the street as my apartment or to the Lebanese restaurant on the opposite side. Despite being one of the senior cooks and one of the bouncers at what was then Jagger’s, when I wanted a pizza I’d get the Athens Special: mozzarella and tomato sauce pie, gyro meat, feta cheese, and pitted Greek olives.

    Do you remember the name of that little Mexican place that was in that strip mall down the street?

  146. 146.

    Schlemazel

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I worked with a guy that grew up in Georgia. He was a Roman Catholic. He talked about having the KKK parade around his church and the fear they instilled in him (he was 10 or 12 at the time). When there are politicians who can make hay by demonizing a group it is always dangerous to be in that group. There was a small Jewish community near me when I was growing up in very Catholic St. Paul, MN. There were times when they worked very hard to ‘disappear’ into the background even though there were no successful pols targeting them at the time. Some people are ‘self-starters’ on hate. I got beaten up a couple times for not being Catholic. Our history is full of sad moments but the arc has been toward justice it is just not fast enough or far enough. like the poor hate will be with us always

  148. 148.

    Barbara

    @Another Scott: My allergies are not horrible but I do use a nasal spray and found that they do work well, even some of the OTC ones, but they don’t tend to work right away. So I end up using Zyrtec until the spray kicks in.

  149. 149.

    zhena gogolia

    I wonder what Robert De Niro just said that got blanked out. Or is my TV going on the blink?

  151. 151.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Schlemazel: It is an unfortunate testimony that the reality that is America so often falls so far short of the ideal that is America.

  153. 153.

    PJ

    @M4: it’s only a problem if you are in Third World countries like Louisiana. And there are versions with CDC approved filters that catch them lethal amoebas.

  154. 154.

    Jager

    Speaking of “fucking old houses” our 1922 beauty’s new 70 foot retaining wall passed county inspection Friday, now the back fill starts and we move on to the new septic system. City sewer ends 350 yards away thanks to an old crank who stopped sanitation progress back in the 80’s. He’s lucky he died before we moved here. Mrs J fell in love with real lanterns, so I have to light the god damn things and blow them out every night, 5 of the damn things. other than that, things are good up in the canyon, Anze the Dog is fat and happy, our pond fish are fat and happy and our sparrow nest is intact. We’re having left over scalloped potatoes and ham for dinner with Cesar salad on the side. It’s a nice California night in June. BTW I’m on my 3rd Jack and a splash.

  155. 155.

    chopper

    @Achrachno:

    mt. gox was as somebody mentioned an exchange for magic the gathering cards and stuff. they started trading bitcoin and it quickly became
    the biggest (?) site on the web for doing so but never had any real security on account of the fact that it was originally for trading role-playing cards. so when it got hacked it blew up something fierce.

  158. 158.

    J R in WV

    @lamh36:

    Like they say, the thing you are exposed to as a teen really does impress on you…

    No wonder I’m a wee bit strange…my mom took me to horror movies when I was but a little tyke. Peter Lorre, Boris Karloff, Vincent Price, that list goes on forever. My little brother would run back to the concession stand, and peek around the edge into the theater to be sure the monsters hadn’t eaten Mom.

    Poe plots in cheaply made movies… they were really common in the late ’50s and early ’60s, when I was a kid.

  160. 160.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Omnes Omnibus: I use a squeeze bottle, not the traditional neti pot. So no water boarding necessary.
    @M4: I boil the water and sterilize the bottle. And can do without any allergy medication unless the pollen outside is really terrible.

  162. 162.

    Schlemazel

    I am off to bed. Have a full day of medical test tomorrow and a meeting with the urologist to discuss the diverticulectomy and reconstruction.

    Goodnight you princes of progressivism, you kings of the New Deal

  166. 166.

    lamh36

    @lamh36:

    @ScottFeinberg
    De Niro: “FUCK TRUMP!” Standing O. Repeats it! TV production people wearing headsets are staring at each other with mouths agape. Amazing live TV moment.

    9:39 PM – Jun 10, 2018 · Manhattan, NY

  168. 168.

    zhena gogolia

    @lamh36:

    I wish they hadn’t cut it out. It would be cathartic to hear.

    I’m going to bed now, but I doubt that the Tonys can top that!

  169. 169.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Jagger’s had good pizza too.

    It has been nearly 20 years since I lived in Decatur (behind Decatur Elementary School off Ponce), and my memories are getting fuzzier. The Mexican place I remember from around where you’re talking about was called (I think) El Pájaro—some bird name, anyway. But I always went to El Torero on North Druid Hills near I-85. That was great Tex-Mex food. (Probably still is.)

    ETA: I used to get the same pizza at Athens, although usually with ground beef instead of gyro meat. It varied. I still like feta cheese on pizza.

  170. 170.

    Adam L Silverman

    @YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S): Really “Canadian-style bacon”. They couldn’t actually get Canadian bacon, they had to go for a close approximation?//

    More seriously, thanks, I’ll keep it in mind next time I’m in Seattle.

  171. 171.

    Another Scott

    @Barbara: I’ve used Nasonex (OTC) for about a year, and it does take a while to start working.

    Azelastine really does start working almost instantly if your sinuses are inflamed and swollen. It works differently from the OTC stuff.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  172. 172.

    Shell

    De Niro: “FUCK TRUMP!”

    Oh Robert. I know its what we all feel but couldnt you be a little more creative? This is the Tonys after all.

  176. 176.

    Luthe

    Grown-up question for jackals: How bad does one’s work situation have to be before a) quitting for sanity’s sake or b) sending info about somewhat-shady dealings to regulatory bodies and getting fired once the shit hits the fan? I would love to quit, but the stress from the job makes it very difficult to scrape together the energy to apply for other things. As for the rest, I am torn between the feeling I am out for revenge and the feeling that some of the stuff needs to see the light of day (once I am safely out of the line of fire, preferably).

    My current dissatisfaction with everything is making me very stressed, partially because it infects even my free time with dire thoughts of how much I hate the situation. It is entirely possible my depression is using this as more crazy-fuel and I should get me to a therapist, but as all of my coworkers have the same appraisal of our (very small) company, I know it’s not completely me.

    Any thoughts on how to get more energy to job search? Advice on whether to quit out of hand (probably not wise, but tempting af), blow all the whistles and let the chips fall where they may, or just tough it out until I find something else?

    ETA: Going to bed now, will reply to comments in the morning

  178. 178.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Steeplejack (tablet): So I was at Emory’s main campus from 90 to 92. Was at Oxford from 88 to 90. So it is possible if you were living there that far back that we’ve actually crossed paths and didn’t know it.

    Jagger’s pizza was good. The place next to Jaggers was okay. I never really understood why everyone thought it was so great.

    I think that’s the place. They had great mole. And yes, El Torero was a preferred place for really good Tex-Mex. Blue Moon Korean restaurant in Five Points was also excellent. There was a Mexican place close to it that was also very good, but I can’t remember the name.

    I wrote most of my honor’s thesis while drinking stout and listening to live music at Limerick Junction.

    Then I was named one of the Jones’ Scholars and off to Scotland I went!

  179. 179.

    J R in WV

    OK, I looked it up. WinStar farms owns 60% on Justify, and China Horse Club owns 25%.

    The last 15% is owned by an investment group called SF Group, owned and run by employees with George Soros’ investment firm. Not necessarily by Soros himself. But who knows at that level? They probably provide funds to the horse people who know about horses, as opposed to picking out young horses at the breeder auctions.

  182. 182.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @Luthe:
    My advice, take it with a grain of salt, is to blow the whistle on anything horribly unethical/illegal going on. Do it in a way that no one will know it’s you and look for a new job.

  184. 184.

    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)

    Be careful with the antihistamines and related drugs out there. wa-health.kaiserpermanente.org/antihistamine-increase-risk-dementia/ The ones that contain anticholinergic drugs have recently been determined to have links to dementia. Note that while Benadryl is mentioned by name brand, it refers to the US drug by that name. The same name is used in other countries with a different formulation. From the article:

    Some specific anticholinergic drugs are:
    Older antidepressants like doxepin (brand name Sinequan)
    Antimuscarinics for bladder control like oxybutynin (Ditropan)
    First generation antihistamines like diphenhydramine (Benadryl) and chlorpheniramine (Chlor-Trimeton). Drugs with diphenhydramine are also often taken as a sleep aid.

  185. 185.

    Adam L Silverman

    @eclare: I’m aware. I lived just up the road from the one that is up the road from where Clifton intersects with Briarcliff. So I’d drive to school every day: Briarcliff to Clifton. Clifton to campus. Actually, I was allowed to park behind Jaggers because I worked there. Which, given, that an Emory parking permit is really a hunting license, was a definite advantage for working there.

  192. 192.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    @eclare:

    Ha, thanks! I thought my memory was playing tricks on me. How could I remember two completely different intersections of the same two streets? At least it wasn’t Peachtree This and Peachtree That.

    I think the Mexican place might have been Los Loros.

  193. 193.

    Another Scott

    @Luthe: “somewhat shady dealings” might be problematic. Everything has grey areas. Are they pushing the boundary but still within them? What happens if you blow the whistle and the people who hear it say that you’re over-reacting?

    If you’re stressed out then it doesn’t really matter whether they’re within the lines or not. You need to find a way to get out of the stressful situation. If things won’t change for the better at work, then you need to find a better situation.

    So, my advice would be to polish up your resume and start looking yesterday. If you really think that they’re doing something outside the lines, then you can report them after you leave. Don’t risk your career without having a backup.

    My $0.02.

    Good luck!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  194. 194.

    lamh36

    @billyeichner
    DeNiro said Fuck Trump. I need Bernadette Peters to call Mike Pence a c#nt and then I’m going to bed.

    9:55 PM – 10 Jun 2018

  195. 195.

    Another Scott

    @YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S): Wonderful. :-/

    “So here are your choices: You can breathe, or you can avoid increased risk of dementia. What do you want to do?”

    I first started getting hay fever when I was about 10. The doc told my father to give me half a Dramamine. It worked, but knocked me out. (I see now that that is also an antihistamine.)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  196. 196.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    @Adam L Silverman:

    For a while there was a place right around the corner from Jagger’s called the Spaghetti Tree that was excellent cheap Italian. It just appeared one day and then disappeared just as suddenly a while later. I think it was in one of those restaurant locations that are cursed.

    I remember it because in my experience good cheap Italian restaurants are surprisingly hard to find. Around here (NoVA) it seems to be either Olive Garden or suddenly you’re getting kind of upscale.

    Jeez, memories reawakening. There was another semi-cheap but good Italian place near Emory—Bambinelli’s? Something like that.

  197. 197.

    satby

    @YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S): there were some recent studies also indicating that anti-leukotrienes (Singulair) may help prevent or reduce some effects of tau protein tangles in Alzheimer’s disease. Much more research needed, but I wouldn’t toss any antihistamines yet.

  198. 198.

    Barbara

    @Luthe: Shady and illegal are different things. My experience with whistleblowers is that they often lack the full picture and don’t always understand applicable laws. That said, if you feel like your own integrity is being compromised or that your reputation will take a hit if the company is outed by someone else, then make serious efforts to go elsewhere. Direct your mental efforts to finding a new job and stop tormenting yourself over the current situation.

  199. 199.

    Ohio Mom

    @Luthe: Take care of yourself first: go to that therapist, maybe even take a short course of meds to temper all that angst. Because you need to be thinking as clearly as possible.

    When you are feeling a bit more grounded, go talk to an attorney specializing in employment issues. He/she can give you better advice than any of us on the specifics of whistle-blowing.

    It’s horrible to have horrible job situation. You want to work on getting out, and you will eventually find a new, better place (I say “eventually” because a job hunt always feels longer than it is). But first you need more information on your inner state and more information on what your Iegal options are.

    Good luck and keep us posted.

  201. 201.

    danielx

    Ewwww….that back yard looks soggy. Which in and of itself is no big thing, but it’s gonna come a bumper crop of mosquitoes in fairly short order. Sweet anopheles…

  202. 202.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Steeplejack (tablet): There was a pizza place about two doors up from Jaggers. Did sort of a semi style deep dish. It wasn’t Chicago, but it wasn’t neopolitan. I can’t for the life of me remember it’s name. Then up and around the corner from that was a Taco Mac. Down about two doors from Jagger’s was a little Lebanese restaurant and coffee house.

    One of the best Italian places was Carmella’s. But I can’t remember what street it was on.

  203. 203.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Luthe: What @Ohio Mom: said. And then consult an attorney. Preferably one that specializes in protecting whistle blowers. They’ll know how to assist you in getting the information to the right people without putting yourself in jeopardy.

  205. 205.

    Gin & Tonic

    Really long and shitty day traveling and working, so I’m closing it down with a large Gibson at The Dearborn in Chicago. A good bar, if you ask me, which nobody did.

  206. 206.

    Another Scott

    @Gin & Tonic: Bad travel experiences suck, and they’re far too common these days. I hope you have a good evening.

    ‘night all.

    149 days to go…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  208. 208.

    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)

    @Another Scott: @satby: I am not suggesting you dump antihistamines and neither is the researcher that wrote the article. Just be careful, especially of common older OTC ones. There are alternatives that do not appear to have the same correlation with dementia. This is not a one off soon to be disproven study. It is a long term research project. It doesn’t prove causation but it raises cautions.

  209. 209.

    MoxieM

    @schrodingers_cat: Ocean State Job Lot! Since I believe you’re more or less nearby, I recommend the one in Holyoke on Rt. 202–also, the Stop & Shop there (being south of the Tofu Curtain) has a terrifically diverse and non-white bread & ketchup assortment of foodstuffs.

  211. 211.

    Ohio Mom

    I just saw the back yard photo. I hope that water isn’t getting into the basement.

    Sign me,
    Been there, done that

  212. 212.

    satby

    @Gin & Tonic: lots of weather delays I assume, because there’s been heavy rain all day moving through the area to my area.If you were staying a few days we could maybe get a meet up organized. Welcome, anyway!

    Edited to add, good night all!

  213. 213.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    Uh-oh, now De Niro is going to have to recuse himself from playing Robert Mueller in the SNL skits. Sad.

  218. 218.

    joel hanes

    @Luthe:

    Been there. If you don’t quit soon, find a therapist.

    If you’re going to blow the whistle, keep a journal of who/what/where/when
    for the things you think are illegal. Save supporting documents. Do not keep it at work.

    Any thoughts on how to get more energy to job search?

    When they commit some new outrage,
    use the anger to motivate you to :
    – work on your resume
    – look up the procedure for quitting, and prepare to follow it
    by making a timeline of what you’d have to do if you gave notice tomorrow.
    Then take any of the preliminary steps you can without blowing your cover.
    – call a trusted co-worker from a previous job, and arrange a lunch or dinner date
    (Former co-workers are the best road into a better job.)

  219. 219.

    SectionH

    @Steeplejack (phone): Probably too late with this, but I’ve always thought it’s The Trooping of the Colo(u)r.
    The more I thought about it, the more I confused myself. So link to the source. Never mind that that page on royal.uk* omits the preposition from the page title, which just adds to the confusion.

    (*Seems to be legit… )

  220. 220.

    Steeplejack

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Jesus, don’t start this fucking nym police shit again.

    Google:

    site:balloon-juice.com "pj says"

    Gee, they seem to be a commenter going back to at least 2014 and possibly 2006.

    “Welcome, lurkers and infrequent commenters. Please feel free to add your voice to the conversation, unless you happen to say something deemed unacceptable by the rules committee.”

  221. 221.

    joel hanes

    @YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S):

    I’m 65, have had serious seasonal allergies my entire life.
    I have taken literally thousands of doses of chlorpheniramine maleate,
    and hundreds of doses of diphenhydramine.

    Oh, well. Ever since Trump, thinking has been hurting me.

  223. 223.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Steeplejack: I’m all for lurkers de-lurking and commenting, but someone who is not a regular poster and therefore an unknown quantity should not show up out of the blue talking shit about regular posters. Establish an identity and some credibility first so we know you’re not a troll or a moron.

    Though if you’re a moron, there’s a decent chance that the Republican Party will cheat and make you president.

  224. 224.

    Steeplejack

    @SectionH:

    That site is a bit inconsistent, using different phrasing interchangeably.

    If you Google “regimental colors” (or “colours”), for example, it is clear that in this context colors is a collective noun referring to the flag or pennant or whatever. It’s used that way even in the Wikipedia article, which seems to have been written (or heavily edited) recently and advances the “Trooping the Colour” trope.

    This isn’t a rhetorical hill I’m willing to die on. But I always heard it as “trooping of the colors,” including when I lived in England as a child, and this is the first time I have heard “trooping the color.” Just seemed strange to me.

  225. 225.

    Ruckus

    @Luthe:
    I worked for a drunk for 2 yrs before I could figure out and find an exit strategy that worked. And I had good friends working there that I couldn’t talk to about it. After I quit I spent 4 months remodeling my house so I could sell it and move. The day I told the CEO was one of the best days of my life. He told me that I had to tell my boss and I told him no fucking way, why did he think I was leaving in the first place. He also told me I needed to do an exit interview to catch up my boss and I told him no, I didn’t. Ended up doing it with the CEO and my boss, never spoke a word to the drunk. The CEO didn’t know the guy was a drunk, even though it was the CEO that screwed him in front of the entire company. Fun times. Sounds like your situation may be worse.
    Can you write down everything you want to say and mail it to someone so it has a postmark date and the company won’t be able to blame you for everything? Or make a live report the day before you quit.
    I found that the 4 months off, fixing my house was pure relaxation from the job that had been for 11 yrs about 60 hrs a week. If you can afford it I highly recommend taking some time. I opened my own business after looking for a job for about 15 months while I worked the old job and then another 9 months setting up my business. Part of my problem with finding a job was that I wanted to move back to CA and that my job for the last 11 yrs had been in pro sports from the ruling body. Made it more difficult to find work with no recent experience.
    Don’t know if that helps, I’m sure some others here have also gone through leaving a shitty job so ask questions, there may be an answer out there waiting for you.

  226. 226.

    Steeplejack

    @Steve in the ATL:

    So, what, three months of “I like pets!” and “How about that wacky Cole?” and then you’re good to go?

    Omnes and Goku shat the bed last week. It won’t kill them to take a little heat.

  228. 228.

    PJ

    @Steve in the ATL: I’ll have you know that I am a very important commenter on a top 50,000 blog!

    But, more seriously, Kay is the only commenter (not talking about front-pagers) who regularly contributes substantive comments (not the I’ve got an opinion and it’s very important that you hear it crowd that everyone belongs to) about Democratic politics based on on-the-ground experience, and it’s a shame that Omnes and Goku drove her away.

    If you don’t like what I have to say, feel free to ignore me, but it’s not your little club to decide who gets to comment on what.

  231. 231.

    Gemina13

    @debbie: While I like Cohen’s performance of his own song, Jeff Beck’s cover is my favorite. I’ll cry listening to that one.

  232. 232.

    PJ

    @Corner Stone: your feels, everybody’s feels, are welcome, as far as I’m concerned, but if you are Bob in Portland or Right to Rise, be ready for the heat that will follow

  234. 234.

    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)

    @joel hanes: Seriously, this is something you should talk to your doc about. The study results are recently published. At the very least you might explore other antihistamines to see if they work for you.

  235. 235.

    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)

    @Gemina13: Be aware that their are other Spiro’s pizzas (one in Kitsap county that I know of) that are not part of this group. The one I referenced has a branch in West Seattle, Shoreline and Mukilteo. I have only eaten at the Shoreline branch.

  236. 236.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Gemina13: If you have a pizza place that also sells gyros, just ask for gyro meat, black olives, and feta cheese. Or if you have a Greek restaurant that sells pizza.

  241. 241.

    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)

    @Adam L Silverman: I had to read the original post a second time to get that too. But I suppose Steve is tweaking you. Corner Stone will probably just assume he is dead to us.

  242. 242.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @PJ:
    Since when was Kay “driven away”? I welcome her input here. I apologized to about everyone I talked rough to that night. And no I’m not a sockpuppet of Omnes, not that I care about your opinion of me.

  243. 243.

    Steeplejack

    @? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:

    Since when was Kay “driven away”? I welcome her input here.

    You last Tuesday:

    Do you have to be such a downer, Kay? I mean, Christ, why did you comment about it here if you didn’t believe it?

    And:

    The emo routine is starting to grate. I don’t mind some venting but this is starting to become excessive and depressing.

    Etc., etc. Yes, clearly you were “welcoming her input.”

    And, yes, you did later apologize to some people, although I don’t remember that Kay was one of them. But you deserved some lumps, so maybe shut up and take them in silence.

  244. 244.

    joel hanes

    @YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S):

    I was being serious.
    I switched from chlorpheniramine maleate to citrizine HCL (Zyrtec) as soon as the latter went generic.
    Still take an occasional diphenhydramine if I’m in insects and get all bitten up, but that’s down to once or twice a year.

    But I can’t change the past.
    Also unchangeable: I spent a couple childhood years melting and casting lead into lead soldiers and fishing weights and sundry other useful forms. And crimping lead split-shot onto my line with my teeth.
    Used to pick over the old police firing range backstop hill and melt down the slugs.
    And later I spent a couple years hand-soldering circuitry with lead/tin solder.
    We didn’t know.

  245. 245.

    J R in WV

    @Adam L Silverman:

    You banned Bob in Portland????!! But he was a union man, elected officer in his local, worked for the working man. All that. Was that all a script written by PhD English majors hired in St Petersburg, RU ?? Then kick his nym out the back door and let us get back into American politics without these Russian trolls and hired rabble-rousers working for the RussianRepublicans.

  246. 246.

    J R in WV

    @joel hanes:

    I grew up in an old printshop/newspaper plant. Family business, Dad was the night shift editor, mom did the TV Weekly layout published in the Saturday morning papers.

    After school when I needed to wait for a ride home, I went down to the composing room, full of big black cast iron Linotypes, each with a lead pot with an ingot hanging into the molten typsetting metal, and the chain would let it down an inch or two as it cast type.

    After I got out of the US Navy where I painted everything with lead paint, of there was one primer we used that was chromate-based with alcohol as the liquid. It dried fast on bare metal, then got covered with Red Lead primer.

    My dad’s desk was on the top floor above the press room the press itself was 3 stories tall, the floor was even with the second story of the press where the plates were set onto the rollers, big curved lead plates, cast from a really big furnace in the corner, right under the spot where Dad’s office was on the top floor.

    Lots of lead, and I like to target shoot, so lead bullets, burnt powder, the smell of the gun range. Now I’m 67, have been working around and with lead since I was a tot, when Mom or Dad had to drop by the office before dinner or after dinner to check a story, make sure the photo came out good enough to use, etc. It was always something.

    I’m a little erratic, will shout at the TV personality on my laptop screen, curse actually, if they aren’t mentioning that the thing Trump just did is fucking illegal and always has been!!

    If I get mental, at least I won’t know about it, just everyone around me will know. I think the neighbors will help keep us safe up our little hollow. I do worry about dementia, actually. Since we don’t know what causes it most often, but we do know lead and pharmaceuticals have to help it along. That’s why I’m typing at 4 am instead of sleeping soundly.

    Goodnight all!

  247. 247.

    Amir Khalid

    @Adam L Silverman:
    You keep mentioning this Malaysian place in Florida. What is it called? Is it run by an actual Malaysian? How ethnically diverse is the menu?

  250. 250.

    Kay

    @? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:

    I welcome her input here.

    Yes, Goku, you welcome my input here. As long as I stick to reports to BJ management on the “practical” work I’m most suited to, right? Doors knocked, meetings attended, like that? I should leave the big picture opining to the Balloon Juice think tank members and attend to my grunt work. After all, commenting privileges here must be earned by some people.

    You don’t tell me what to do. I’m not your subordinate. If I want to talk about “ground level” and “practical” ‘ll do that and if I don’t I won’t. Got that? I’m not your fucking employee. Following me around ordering me to get back to work and stop complaining is snobby and I’d just like to know where you get off assigning me a role, where I’m limited to talking about what I do for the Party and you and your positivity police task force aee in charge of strategy and “tone”. I don’t accept the lower status. It doesn’t apply to anyone else here.

  256. 256.

    Kay

    @Kay:

    I saw it Goku. I saw the scoldings. I know it makes you uncomfortable. Omnes asked me weeks ago if I had “blocked” him because I wasn’t following his directions. Because of course I must have blocked him! Why else would I ignore his stern warnings that my commenter status was in jeopardy and I risked ejection from the BJ salon! So tell me that. Tell me why I alone have to earn my keep and the rest of you can talk about fuck-all anytime you want.

  258. 258.

    rikyrah

    @Kay:

    There’s so much that I’ve missed your input on.
    But, over all..

    1. The goons are going after Obamacare again
    2. The official policy of the United States to separate parents and children.
    and
    3. Never did hear your opinion of the Parkland kids including voter registration in pretty much everything they do.

    once again…

    I.HAVE.MISSED.YOU.

  259. 259.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @Kay: What rikyrah said. I’ve missed you and am glad you’re back. (I’m also glad I was on vacation and missed the ugliness that led to your – hopefully temporary – departure.)

  261. 261.

    waysel

    @Kay: So glad to see you back, Kay. You are worth 10 Gokus or OOs in my estimation. And fuck the whiny, short-sighted tone police.

  262. 262.

    Elizabelle

    @Kay: Hello there Kay.

    There you go again, being an intelligent and practical woman of a certain age.

    What sticks with me is your comments about institutions failing us.

  263. 263.

    SWMBO

    @Kay: So glad to see you back. To add to what @rikyrah: said, Trump tore up the G6+1 agreement. He’s meeting with Kim Jung Un in Singapore tomorrow. He told Pence he didn’t want any crazy talk out of the White House while he’s gone. There was the Tony Awards. Putin is getting his money’s worth. And once again, so glad to see you back.

  264. 264.

    lowtechcyclist

    DRAIN THE SWAMP!! DRAIN THE SWAMP!!

    (apropos of the backyard pic, of course.)

  265. 265.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Kay:

    Very glad to see you back, Kay. I find your observations of the political scene and our current crisis to be invaluable. It’s not “emo” to call a spade a spade, and our current situation is nearing a systemic crisis, if it isn’t there already. And you have to have an accurate—even if awful—picture of the situation to know best how to cope with it.

    Plus I like your funny stories about your hipster musician son and his merciless crew scorning the Debbies and the tablets and whatever.

  266. 266.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Kay: I am glad you have come back. I did not intend my comments to you to come off that way. Obviously, they did. And for that I am truly sorry.

  269. 269.

    Ruckus

    @Kay:
    Excellent!
    Welcome back. A fine and fitting return.
    I know I’m not alone to say you were missed.

  270. 270.

    Gemina13

    @debbie: ::facepalms:: Yes, Buckley. Arrrgh. I can’t believe I fucked that up; I only play his cover of it most nights of the week . . .

  271. 271.

    ET

    Isn’t situations like your yard right now ideal for those bugs that make doggy tummies hurt – I think Giardia? Just be careful with the pups (and maybe the Steve?).

  272. 272.

    Aleta

    @J R in WV: I have friends who say they used to play with the balls of mercury (out of thermometers) as toys. My cousin who worked on cars from a very young age (gifted at it, too) used to wash his hands in leaded gasoline, along with the car parts. (All still doing fine.) I think the handwashing was common, for heavy grease.

  273. 273.

    NeutronFlux

    @Kay: You be you. I like it when you tell your truth. The scroll wheel is made for the likes of Goku annd Omnes.

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