Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

This really is a full service blog.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

Hot air and ill-informed banter

It’s the corruption, stupid.

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

The GOP is a fucking disgrace.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

Don’t expect peaches from an apple tree.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

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But I don’t think Trump hires only the best people:

Joseph W. Hagin, a deputy chief of staff to President Trump and one of the most seasoned government veterans on a team populated mainly by newcomers with little if any prior experience in the White House, plans to step down next month.

Mr. Hagin has run White House operations for Mr. Trump for 17 months, overseeing the daily administration of a building often whipsawed by chaos generated by the president. Just this month, Mr. Hagin led a delegation of officials in Singapore who arranged the logistics of Mr. Trump’s landmark summit meeting with Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader.

The NY Times fails to mention WHY he might be leaving, so we’ll leave that up to Buzzfeed:

Igtet, however, had other interests outside recovering Libyan riches, including one at the center of a major sex-trafficking case. Igtet was deeply involved in NXIVM, the celebrity “sex cult” whose leadership is now under federal indictment, two sources said. Igtet proselytized for the group, BuzzFeed News has learned, while his wife, the heir Sara Bronfman, reportedly kept the cult afloat with tens of millions of dollars.

And in 2013 — as Hagin’s future boss was railing against the Obama administration over the 2012 terrorist attack on the US embassy in Benghazi that killed a US ambassador — Igtet met with the man the US believed to be the mastermind of the attack, who has since been convicted on terrorism charges.

But Hagin’s firm, seeing the chance to reap millions, viewed Igtet as a golden goose and continued to work with the couple even as their associations with NXIVM became increasingly public.

Oh.

Meanwhile, another one of Trump’s finest is making news tonight:

I can’t wait for the day when this Lewandowski asshole gets road rage and fucks with the wrong person and gets what he so richly deserves.

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  4. 4.

    lamh36

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    DHS Secretary Nielsen just got driven out of a Mexican restaurant here on 14th Street by activists. DSA, I believe.

    https://twitter.com/OsitaNwanevu/status/1009229501488775169

    First of all..GOOD.

    Second of all…a Mexican restaurant…she betta be glad she was run off, cause if anyone knew who she was, she might just have been eating something they may have called enchiladas, but was actually…well…let’s just say something she does not want to eat.

  6. 6.

    arrieve

    Even though I no longer have even the slightest expectation that any of these scumballs will not behave in the worst possible way, they continue to astonish me. How is it even possible? Every time I think they can’t possibly go lower they manage to find a way.

  9. 9.

    Calouste

    You say the sex cult is the reason he is leaving. I say it was the reason he was hired in the first place.

  10. 10.

    TenguPhule

    Igtet met with the man the US believed to be the mastermind of the attack, who has since been convicted on terrorism charges.

    Are you fucking kidding me? The Republicans have a direct connection to the Benghazi mastermind and this NEVER EVER FUCKING CAME OUT?!

  11. 11.

    SiubhanDuinne

    This (and Ann “child actors” Coulter, and Laura “summer camp” Ingraham) have had me a state of incandescent rage for days now.

  13. 13.

    TenguPhule

    @Pogonip:

    “Womp womp”? I don’t get it. Can someone explain?

    Peanuts animated cartoon? The adults speaking in gibberish?

  15. 15.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @lamh36:

    she might just have been eating something they may have called enchiladas, but was actually…well…let’s just say something she does not want to eat.

    Maybe she never saw The Help ?

  16. 16.

    Yarrow

    @lamh36: Her ratings must be awful. I saw a rumor they’re trying to move her to the fourth hour of Today. Also, her producer’s leaving.

  17. 17.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @lamh36:
    Yeah, when I heard about Pence and the protest gathering for his visit to Philadelphia, I realized that people are enraged right now, and Trump’s administration people are likely to start seeing it directed at themselves personally.

  22. 22.

    germy

    @Yarrow: Some of the production crew have said how badly she treats the crew. Makeup people, etc., she treats like shit.

    She reminds me of every high school mean girl I ever sat next to back in the ’70s.

  23. 23.

    sukabi

    @Pogonip: if you listen to the video in the tweet its self explanatory.

    I don’t care what anybody says. Samantha Bee is right, except she didn’t go far enough…Feckless c…s the lot of them.

  25. 25.

    Platonailedit

    Amazing how these scumballs with all the investigations and indictments are still out there in public parading their increasingly disgusting levels of ugliness every day.

  28. 28.

    Pogonip

    @TenguPhule: Thank you.

    I used to work in a warehouse where the loudspeaker sounded exactly like Charlie Brown’s teacher. One guy had been there 20 years and had never been able to decipher an announcement.

  29. 29.

    Hungry Joe

    Such people are now mainstream. And more and more are signing up:

    “University professors, students, intellectuals were turning Nazi, Iron Guards, one after the other. At the beginning, certainly they were not Nazis. We were some fifteen people who used to get together to discuss, to try to find arguments opposing theirs. It was not easy…From time to time, one of our friends said: ‘I don’t agree with them, to be sure, but on certain points, nevertheless, I must admit, for example, the Jews…’, etc. And this was a symptom. Three weeks later, this man would become a Nazi. He was caught in the mechanism, he accepted everything, he became a rhinoceros. Toward the end, we were only three or four to have resisted.” — Eugene Ionescu, 1970

  30. 30.

    Mart

    This is hitting me a bit like 911. I am shocked to the point of numbness. I am going to a party on the 4’th near Houston with a group of college friends. it is our 35th anniversary. I am going to go to war this time over the followers of asshole dear leader who has surrounded himself with fucking Nazis’ Miller, Gorka, Bannon, et. al. No more Mart, whatever you do, do not bring up politics. And then the Trumpies fire off one shot after another at me. I now know how a person feels about these kids is a tell if they are an American, or a Nazi. This.American.Carnage.Ends.Now – Womp Womp Motherfuckers.

  31. 31.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @germy:
    I sense a theme here. Roseanne was difficult to work with, apparently. Was the reason none of this came out during the original run of her show because the internet was (even as late as 1997) still in its infancy? Or was she just not as batshit crazy then as she is now?

  33. 33.

    jacy

    @lamh36: these people should probably invest in some scott-pruitt-level security. Things are starting to feel unhinged.

  34. 34.

    ender

    You know, though, these shitheads are cowards. If they really had the courage of their convictions, they wouldn’t be trying to pretend the Democrats are responsible, or imagining that gluing the families back together again is possible, or any other half-assed hedging.

    If they actually had balls, they’d proudly say yes, and they’re not done. Use them for slave labor to build the wall, or let their ragaholics shoot ’em up, to spare the schools and churches. But no, they don’t have the courage of their convictions.

    Cowardly Donnie and the Nutless Wonders, breaking shit again.

  35. 35.

    TenguPhule

    Trump seems to be saying more and more things that aren’t true

    Wapo headline.

    Baby steps.

    Since Saturday, Trump has tweeted false or misleading information at least seven times on the topic of immigration and at least six times on a Justice Department inspector general report into the FBI’s handling of its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server. That’s more than a dozen obfuscations on just two central topics — a figure that does not include falsehoods on other issues, whether in tweets or public remarks.

    And the piece de resistance:

    It’s extraordinary how he is completely indifferent to truth. There’s just no relationship between his statements — anything he utters — and the actual truth of the matter,” said Thomas Murray, president emeritus of the Hastings Center, the founding institution in the field of bioethics. “As far as I can tell, the best way to understand anything he says is what will best serve his interests in the moment. It’s irrespective to any version of the truth.”

  39. 39.

    TenguPhule

    @jacy:

    these people should probably invest in some scott-pruitt-level security.

    Stop making it harder for justice to be done.

  41. 41.

    efgoldman

    @Pogonip:

    I don’t get it. Can someone explain?

    Translation: I am much more of an asshole than even you thought I could be.

  44. 44.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Yarrow:

    I haven’t had a TV in seven or eight years now. How the hell many hours long is the fucking Today Show these days, anyhow?

  46. 46.

    Mary G

    Love him or hate him, Michael Avenatti’s got reality show instincts better than Twitler’s. Here he tweets a letter from a mother to her 6-year-old who was taken away from her for “a bath” two weeks ago. You don’t even need to be able to read Spanish, just look at her little drawings to be appalled that they are not together. Also, it certainly doesn’t fit the administration’s narrative that these are illiterate useless people trying to come in.

    Here is a letter my client Levis just wrote to her 6 yr old son Samir, whom she has not seen or comm with in over 2 weeks. They told her he was being taken for a “bath” & would be brought right back. He is a gentle boy and very attached to his mother. She is terrified. #Basta pic.twitter.com/EnyDCaloft— Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) June 19, 2018

  47. 47.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Yarrow:

    Me too, but it’s really ratcheted up since the family separation border news started breaking last week.

  48. 48.

    oldster

    So the Republicans–a guy who has worked in every Republican administration since Reagan–was in bed with the actual attackers at Benghazi. Unbelievable.

    With Republicans, it is just projection all the way down.

    At this rate, I am pretty sure that Trump was born in Kenya, and it’s even odds that he was married to Bill Clinton.

  49. 49.

    Yarrow

    @SiubhanDuinne: Four hours. Two of the actual Today Show. An hour of Megyn Kelly Today. Another hour of Kathie Lee and Hoda, also under the Today umbrella.

  53. 53.

    hilts

    @lamh36:

    Melania’s lack of self awareness is breathtaking. With each successive tweet, she reinforces the fact that she’s an utterly clueless horse’s ass.

  54. 54.

    TenguPhule

    The only remaining solution is particle beams from orbit.

    The Wisdom of Balloon Juice Provides!

  55. 55.

    jl

    For the GOP and Trumpsters, there is a limited liability doctrine for bad people and bad countries. If you can make some money with them, you are dealing with the holding company, not the bad entity itself. So perfectly OK to damn and smear people you can associate with the bad thing, but OK to make lots of dough with the same bad thing, since for that purpose it is a different thing, not bad at all. See? Easy.

  57. 57.

    Steeplejack

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I “read” the sad trombone sound as more “Wah-wah-wah” than “Womp-womp”—needs to be three, Corey, not two, by the way—but whatevs.

  58. 58.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @zhena gogolia:
    It makes me mad that the network covered it up for years while the show was on the air. It makes me even madder that ABC gave her show knowing full well what she was.

  60. 60.

    germy

    @oldster:

    With Republicans, it is just projection all the way down.

    At this rate, I am pretty sure that Trump was born in Kenya, and it’s even odds that he was married to Bill Clinton.

    Let’s just say:
    in his pizza joint, there is a basement.

  61. 61.

    Brachiator

    @hilts:

    Melania’s lack of self awareness is breathtaking. With each successive tweet, she reinforces the fact that she’s an utterly clueless horse’s ass.

    Feckless, too.

  62. 62.

    TenguPhule

    @germy: Its worse.

    womp womp: A lighthearted phrase that indicates a loss.; A sound of loss heard on a gameshow. (first womp is a higher frequency sound than the second womp)

    Via Urban dictionary.

    He was comparing her internment to a fucking GAME SHOW LOSS.

  63. 63.

    hilts

    @Yarrow:

    An hour of Megyn Kelly Today.

    That’s brutal. Hopefully, she’ll get cancelled before her contract expires. She’s a trainwreck.

  64. 64.

    Chet Murthy

    @Brachiator: All she fuckin’ had to do was continue to stay away. To say *nothing*. To do *nothing*. She (like St John McMaverick McCain) couldn’t manage to do *nothing*.

    Ah, well.

  65. 65.

    arrieve

    @oldster:

    With Republicans, it is just projection all the way down.

    At this rate, I am pretty sure that Trump was born in Kenya, and it’s even odds that he was married to Bill Clinton.

    Okay that made me laugh. Thank you.

  66. 66.

    Amir Khalid

    @oldster:

    it’s even odds that he was married to Bill Clinton.

    I found myself imagining what the wedding pictures might look like. And I’m all out of brain bleach. I hates you.

  67. 67.

    germy

    @hilts: Either way, she gets paid.

    Same as Roseanne. They’re talking about doing a spin-off without her. She won’t appear in it, but she’ll get a giant paycheck, because it’s her “concept”

  68. 68.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @jacy:

    these people should probably invest in some scott-pruitt-level security. Things are starting to feel unhinged.

    Tell me about it. This is not normal.

  69. 69.

    Ruckus

    I just got home and posted this on a probably dead thread so I’m sticking it here as well.

    I hate to sound like or be a downer. I have to stay positive because of my health, falling off that cliff of despair makes me far worse than a normal crappy day. It makes me physically sicker. Yesterday morning I couldn’t type. I tried but my fingers wouldn’t stay on the keys and I couldn’t control where they went. That’s my life, it’s OK, that’s how it is. No one did this to me, it isn’t anyones fault. It’s shit but it’s life. Some are better than mine, some are far worse.

    But things we can control, things we can make better, even if only a little bit, to turn around and make those far, far worse because you are a sick fuck of a human being and you have to bring along a crew of like minded asswipes? And they don’t even seem to be in it for the money. WHATTHEEVERLOVINGFUCK.

  70. 70.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Mary G:

    That made me cry. Heartbreaking. Avenatti may be a bit of a showboat, but his instincts are great, he defends sympathetic clients, and he really seems to know his stuff.

    Also, he’s extremely hot.

  72. 72.

    Yarrow

    @hilts: I’ve occasionally seen a few moments of it and she always looks like a snotty mean girl. I don’t understand why anyone would watch her show on purpose.

  75. 75.

    germy

    Quite the wordsmith:

    For almost two years now a screeching, squealing would-be political lynch mob of deceitful partisan degenerates has managed to invent, promote, proliferate and perpetuate the most brazen coordinated mass fraud ever inflicted on the American public in our nation’s history.

    Of course I speak of the malicious concoction better known as the Obama-Clinton-DNC Russia collusion hoax.

    Amplified 24/7 by effete Trump-deranged corporate media megaphonies, the collusion hoaxsters have extracted significant political value in the diversion, distraction, defamation and disinformation that their cynical scam has enabled them to propagate at the expense of political adversaries who rightfully handed these corrupt, arrogant elites their asses in the historic election of 2016.

    link

  76. 76.

    Yarrow

    @SiubhanDuinne: Yep. If you happen to walk by a TV tuned to NBC anytime in the morning you’ll probably be looking at some version of Today. It’s just gross.

  77. 77.

    lamh36

    Folks talking about Nielsen went to a Mexican restaurant to get just the reaction she got.

    Of course she did…it’s the Chump school of drama…like Pence leaving the football game cause some players knelt, nevermind that was the whole purpose for going.

    But I can’t be mad at folks for being pissed and wanting to shout even if it’s exactly what the FUQ’er wants

  78. 78.

    germy

    promote, proliferate and perpetuate

    diversion, distraction, defamation and disinformation

    He must have taken writing lessons from Safire.

  79. 79.

    hilts

    @Brachiator:

    Absolutely. I’m sick and tired of any idiot who still believes that Melania or Ivanka could serve as moderating influences on Donald Trump. As far as I’m concerned, the whole damn Trump family is scum.

  80. 80.

    TS (the original)

    @lamh36: Listening to Rachel – Melania is following instructions – make everyone outraged – the president* loves chaos – the more they protest, the happier he is. Everything the ahole has done since he was elected reinforce this concept. Melania and Ivanka do EXACTLY as they are told.

  81. 81.

    Shell

    Was on Youtube doing some searching and what pops up was Neil Diamonds “America”. Hadn’t listened to it in a while, did…and well. Perhaps it should be played at every WH briefing and at every pundit trying to justify this policy. Heres the beginning lyrics.

    Far,
    We’ve been traveling far
    Without a home
    But not without a star

    Free,
    Only want to be free
    We huddle close
    Hang on to a dream

    On the boats and on the planes
    They’re coming to America
    Never looking back again,
    They’re coming to America

    Home
    Don’t it seem so far away
    Oh, we’re traveling light today
    In the eye of the storm
    In the eye of the storm

    Home
    To a new and a shiny place
    Make our bed and we’ll say our grace
    Freedom’s light burning warm
    Freedom’s light burning warm
    **************************

    Goddamn.

  82. 82.

    Ruckus

    @hilts:
    A horses ass is a useful part of the animal. The hind legs attach somewhere around there, there is an outlet for fertilizer…… That’s 12 more uses for a horses ass than for shitgibbon’s immigrant wife.

  83. 83.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @germy:
    Yup, he’s freaking out. He fears he’s going to be caught up in this mess too.

  84. 84.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Ruckus: People (who have been doing it since the Women’s March) are doing what needs to be done and institutions seem to be figuring out how to deal (imperfectly) with what is happening. Congress is acting. Media seem to be getting a clue. Kids from moms is visceral.

    On a personal level, please keep on keeping on as best you can.

  87. 87.

    JPL

    I think Trump lost Alan Dershowitz, but the question remains is whether or not he will lose the house.

  88. 88.

    efgoldman

    @germy:

    Quite the wordsmith

    Why did you link that excrescence? No one should get out of the boat. Shame on you.

  92. 92.

    Brachiator

    Fuck the New York Times

    From HuffPo.

    Bowing to pressure from the White House, The New York Times did not include in its news podcast an audio clip from an on-the-record interview with Stephen Miller, a senior adviser to President Donald Trump.

    The audio recording stemmed from a June 16 story in the paper, “How Trump Came to Enforce a Practice of Separating Migrant Families.” According to Times reporters Julie Hirschfeld Davis and Michael Shear, Miller was instrumental in Trump’s decision to implement a zero-tolerance immigration policy that had been considered but ultimately deemed inhumane by previous administrations. …

    Michael Barbaro, who hosts “The Daily” podcast for the Times, said in Tuesday’s episode that he intended to play the audio for a segment on the immigration crisis until Davis heard that the White House was “not at all comfortable” with Miller’s voice being featured on the podcast. …

    Since the interview was on the record, the White House was aware that anything Miller said could appear in The New York Times. But Davis said the White House officials felt they should have been told if the audio recording might be used outside of a written story.

    “When they found out that his voice was actually going to be on a podcast discussing this, they were not happy about it. So they asked us not to use it,” Davis said.

    The Times addressed the White House request in a statement posted to Twitter.

    “While Miller’s comments were on the record, we realized that the ground rules for the original interview were not clear, and so we made a decision not to run the audio,” the outlet said, adding that its reporters “made extensive use of the interview in both the original weekend story and The Daily.”

    Easier for Trump to label a written interview as fake news if there is not audio to contradict his lie.

  93. 93.

    Mary G

    @germy: He’s pretty riled up, I wonder why?

    This is rich:

    The courageous (real) journalist and corruption-exposer Glenn Greenwald weighed in on one of Chait’s uber-hypocritical laments about the political correctness Chait himself has very much wrought, calling Chait one of those “journalists writing grievances about how they’re victimized by online hordes.”

  94. 94.

    efgoldman

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Congress is acting.

    For some version of action.
    Fucking senile Hatch was on CBS tonite bleating about the unacceptable policy. Did he sign on to Difi’s bill? Can i dunk a basketball?
    Smelly old senile prick.

  97. 97.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Frankensteinbeck: They should, a lot of them are sounding like inbred decedent perverts the French imagined the Nobility of their time to be.

  99. 99.

    dexwood

    Our fake president has declared war on our allies. Worse yet, he has declared war on our country. And, he has too many supporters, traitors really, willing to defend him. Quite a fight ahead of us.

  100. 100.

    hilts

    @germy: @Yarrow:

    I’ll go to my grave never having understood the appeal of Megyn Kelly. Meanwhile, I can’t imagine 3 more years of Trumpenstein in office. If the Cubs could win the goddamn World Series in my lifetime, it should be possible for some miracle to occur that will result in Trump’s removal from office.

  102. 102.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @ender:

    You know, though, these shitheads are cowards. If they really had the courage of their convictions

    That’s the thing, they are moral nihilists.

  103. 103.

    Felanius Kootea

    I just saw Chet Murthy’s comment in another thread about Warsan Shire’s poem, “Home.” Shire is Somali-British and write the poetry for Beyonce’s Lemonade album.

    Her words are like a punch in the gut and she captures perfectly why people leave home even when they are not
    welcome where they are going.

    I’l except the first part below (read the rest at the link above):

    no one leaves home unless
    home is the mouth of a shark
    you only run for the border
    when you see the whole city running as well

    your neighbors running faster than you
    breath bloody in their throats
    the boy you went to school with
    who kissed you dizzy behind the old tin factory
    is holding a gun bigger than his body
    you only leave home
    when home won’t let you stay.

    no one leaves home unless home chases you
    fire under feet
    hot blood in your belly
    it’s not something you ever thought of doing
    until the blade burnt threats into
    your neck
    and even then you carried the anthem under
    your breath
    only tearing up your passport in an airport toilets
    sobbing as each mouthful of paper
    made it clear that you wouldn’t be going back.

    you have to understand,
    that no one puts their children in a boat
    unless the water is safer than the land
    no one burns their palms
    under trains
    beneath carriages
    no one spends days and nights in the stomach of a truck
    feeding on newspaper unless the miles travelled
    means something more than journey.
    no one crawls under fences
    no one wants to be beaten
    pitied

    no one chooses refugee camps
    or strip searches where your
    body is left aching
    or prison,
    because prison is safer
    than a city of fire
    and one prison guard
    in the night
    is better than a truckload
    of men who look like your father
    no one could take it
    no one could stomach it
    no one skin would be tough enough

  105. 105.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @germy:

    If you eliminated all the modifiers, you could get that whole thing down to about 200 characters.

  109. 109.

    hilts

    @Ruckus:

    A horses ass is a useful part of the animal. The hind legs attach somewhere around there, there is an outlet for fertilizer…… That’s 12 more uses for a horses ass than for shitgibbon’s immigrant wife.

    I stand corrected. I find Melania utterly repulsive and horse’s ass was simply the first insult that popped into my mind to describe her.

  112. 112.

    Thoughtful David

    @Brachiator:
    She’s not doing any of those tweets or anything else. What, she’s been seen once in 8 or 9 weeks? Some aide is writing that shit.

  113. 113.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    I am thinking, you can’t be this blatantly vindictive like Trump is because as Micheaville said the leader wants fear, not contempt. That’s why Hilter and Stalin did their nasty stuff in secret and never in the open. It’s getting to the point were anyone on Trump’s shit list will have nothing to lose but attack Trump directly themselves. Intresting.

  114. 114.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @TenguPhule: My point is both people and institutions are acting. I know it postpones the war in the streets that you are waiting for, but it is happening.

  115. 115.

    Ruckus

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Thanks. I do try but this level of fucking bullshit, not on a daily but an hourly, not trickle but a fucking flood, it’s worse by far than the Vietnam war. And that was absolutely fucking bad. I was part of that. Didn’t have any good choice sure but still had a small part in it. I didn’t vote for this shit, most of the citizens didn’t vote for this shit. But here we are, at the confluence of way too many shit rivers and the smallest one makes the Mississippi look like a dried up creek. One can’t help but feel like crap since Nov 8, 2016. I knew it would be bad, because the shitgibbon has zero talent as a human being, he’s incapable of even trying. But this is far worse than my worst concepts of how bad it would get.
    I know it’s possible that we can recover. I really don’t see much of a path to get there though.

  116. 116.

    Chet Murthy

    @Thoughtful David: One says to oneself that if she really wanted to make sure that she wasn’t associated, she’d delete her account. Sure it’d be reactivated. But it wouldn’t be hard to get the message across, that she was *done*. Nobody’s [at least I’m not] asking her to divorce the fucking traitor. Just make it clear she’s not a part of it.

  117. 117.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @dexwood:

    Quite a fight ahead of us.

    We’ve been in this war for at least ten years. You could make a good case for as long as fifty. Our side didn’t want to see it until now. For conservatives, it has been a viscerally clear existential battle for a long time.

  119. 119.

    Kay

    @lamh36:

    Blech. The Trumps should stay away from other peoples children. Not that Melania will actually do anything. The Trumps aren’t big on volunteer work.

  120. 120.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Ruckus:

    I really don’t see much of a path to get there though.

    I do. It involves a lot of work. And you may have done your part already. My parents are in their 70s; they have done their bit. I watched it.

  126. 126.

    hilts

    @Ruckus:

    One can’t help but feel like crap since Nov 8, 2016.

    Every day since Trump was elected, my mood has oscillated between Jack Nicholson at the end of Chinatown and Charlton Heston at the end of Planet of the Apes.

    I knew it would be bad, because the shitgibbon has zero talent as a human being, he’s incapable of even trying.

    I’m convinced that Trump has Cro-Magnon or Neanderthal DNA.

  127. 127.

    dexwood

    @Frankensteinbeck:
    I agree with your long view. My political awareness & activism goes back to the 60s. Traitor Trump and his supporters have taken it up to, or down to, a new level. Things have changed for the worse. Racism, ugliness, have a new face, same as the old face, just shinier.. The Obama years, years of hope and progress, I thought, brought out the worst of the nightcrawlers. The fight continues.

  128. 128.

    Brachiator

    @hilts:

    I’m convinced that Trump has Cro-Magnon or Neanderthal DNA.

    Naw. Trump would be a better human being if he did.

  129. 129.

    Ruckus

    @hilts:
    It’s normally a good insult. We’ve all used it a times, it’s been around since people drove wheeled vehicles looking at horse’s asses.
    But this group, they really are far, far worse than any horse’s ass. They are what the scum of the earth looks down upon. They are worse than the slime that the scum of the earth leave when they are done eating whatever scum eats. They make the devil seem nice. Compared to them the devil IS nice. The devil has one redeeming quality, he looks good in comparison to them.

  130. 130.

    Sherparick

    @rikyrah: Sadly, they are all to human. That worst humans are devils; and these people are devils. They are not going to Hell, they are already there.

  131. 131.

    Immanentize

    @oldster: All of the missing girls and toddlers are being held in the basement of a pizza parlor in D.C. next door to the Trump Hotel.

  132. 132.

    Ruckus

    @schrodingers_cat:
    I use iMac and it has a dictation app. Haven’t tried it. I have bad days and OK days. Yesterday was a Really Bad day. But I’m typing this so it isn’t all that bad. Actually it’s an OK day, I’m only having to correct about every third word. And a year ago I could type 50-60 words a min. I still can but readability is crap. I often go back and correct things after I post and I rarely used to have to do that.

  133. 133.

    Gvg

    @Chet Murthy: if she is actually writing that, she is getting all her info filtered by Trump chosen hires and Fox News, going back years too. She started from a Russian client state too so she didn’t get our public school education and doesn’t already know things we take for granted. I don’t like her or know her really but I kind of think it’s a waste of time to try to judge her.
    Maybe after he is arrested and she has been freed of him for a few years, it’ll be possible. I don’t think she is that important nor fascinating. Given how bad he is, I am kind of keeping an eye out. If Barron turns out OK in 10 years, I’ll assume she is an exceptional mother because she’ll have a lot to overcome.

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    Ruckus

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Well I’m days away from turning 69 yrs old. I never really thought I’d get this far. I wonder how many people think that way. Now I want to see how far I can get, if for no other reason than to keep poking a very sharp, if imaginary, stick in the shitheads that think that making people miserable is fun. Miserable sucks donkey balls. Fuck those assholes.

  136. 136.

    hilts

    @Brachiator:

    All I know is that Trump has no heart, no soul, and no brains. He’s just an overfed knuckledragger consumed with vindictiveness and massive insecurities.

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    The Lodger

    @hilts: Most people of European ancestry have between 1 and 2 percent Neanderthal DNA. Even the ones with chins.

  138. 138.

    Brachiator

    @Ruckus:

    Well I’m days away from turning 69 yrs old. I never really thought I’d get this far. I wonder how many people think that way.

    I remember as a kid thinking that I would be ancient when I reached 40. I’m well past that now. I’ve had a few health challenges, including significant dental work just today. But I’m hoping to be able to contribute even a little something to the battles ahead.

    Hope you have a happy birthday in the days ahead and whatever you need to keep on keeping on.

  139. 139.

    Ohio Mom

    @Pogonip: My kid goes Womp Womp when he’s blowing me off, particularly when I am trying to explain what he did wrong and why it matters.

    It’s the verbal equivalent of rolling his eyes at me. It’s Yadda, Yadda, Yadda, I cant hear you, I have my fingers in my ears.

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    hilts

    @Ruckus: @Ruckus:

    The day Trump was elected, we went through the goddamn motherfucking looking glass.

    I think of myself as someone with a fairly good imagination, but never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined that Barack Obama would be succeeded by someone as stone cold stupid and mentally deranged as Donald Trump.

  141. 141.

    Jager

    I’m involved in a lawsuit, I was in court today for three hours, during a break, I wandered outside, there was a construction site across the street, I was looking at the Cat version of the old Melroe Bobcat. The operator was a Mexican American guy. We had a nice talk, I told him I used to run an original when i worked on construction in college. We got around to trump, he said, “Man if this shit had been going on when my parents crossed, I’d be fucked.”

  142. 142.

    Brachiator

    @hilts:

    All I know is that Trump has no heart, no soul, and no brains. He’s just an overfed knuckledragger consumed with vindictiveness and massive insecurities.

    Oh, I agree he’s a throwback and a monster. Neanderthals weren’t knuckledraggers, and were undoubtedly smarter than Trump. But they would let him hang with them out of pity. They also probably had more soul than him, also.

  143. 143.

    hilts

    @The Lodger:

    Most people of European ancestry have between 1 and 2 percent Neanderthal DNA. Even the ones with chins.

    I was trying to think of something that could possibly explain Trump’s level of barbarism.

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    Mnemosyne

    @TenguPhule:

    “As far as I can tell, the best way to understand anything he says is what will best serve his interests in the moment. It’s irrespective to any version of the truth.”

    As people have been saying for months, Trump is a toxic narcissist. “Truth” is whatever he decides it is, and the flunkies around him had better get on board or there’ll be hell to pay.

  145. 145.

    Amir Khalid

    @The Lodger:
    As I understand it, everyone descended from the original small group of emigrants out of Africa — i.e. everyone but today’s sub-Saharan Africans — has some Neanderthaler DNA.

  146. 146.

    hilts

    @Brachiator:

    Now that you mention it, I vaguely recall a NY Times article from a few months ago discussing art work created by Neanderthals. I don’t believe Trump has a creative bone in his body, so based on that metric alone Neanderthals were superior to him.

    I also had recent dental work done myself and it’s a bitch. I’ll be glad when it’s over.

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    Kay

    @Ohio Mom:

    This is how the Trump people act in public, on television. Imagine the discussions in that White House. No one must be safe from their childish, vindictive nastiness. I can’t even imagine how these children were talked about when they were cooking up this cruelty. They discussed it for months. The “infestation” – these children.

  148. 148.

    hilts

    @Mnemosyne:

    “Truth” is whatever he decides it is,

    I think Harry Frankfurt’s On Bullshit has more relevance than ever given the fact that Trump is the biggest bullshit artist in the nation.

  149. 149.

    B.B.A.

    Fuck it. Not only am I for open borders, I don’t give a fuck if MS-13 murders me and every other white person in this shithole of a country. It’s not like we don’t have it coming.

    (Spoiler alert: MS-13 doesn’t exist.)

  150. 150.

    B.B.A.

    “The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean Algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, and Balanchine ballets don’t redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history.” – Susan Sontag, in remarks she later apologized for as unfair to cancer.

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    Ohio Mom

    @Ruckus: Oh dear. I know you don’t like harping on your big health issue — I am not really sure what it is, and respect your privacy.

    But I hope you have an OT who is helping you find tricks around your new limitations. For instance, what pops into mind for days typing isn’t happening is a voice activated system (yeah, I know they can have glitches). A good OT will have lots of work arounds.

    We all have to find ways to take care of ourselves nowadays, we are of no use if we internalize all the despair. That’s what they want, for us to give up. Let’s not any of us do that.

  152. 152.

    Kay

    @B.B.A.:

    They’re just so ungenerous, the Trumps and their awful hires. They;ve been given so much and they’re so crabbed and stingy. All they talk about is people TAKING things from them. How much do they need? What would be enough to make them grateful and easy with the idea that someone else might get something? There’s plenty of fucking room in this country. There’s who areas of the midwest that are DYING for young people. No one will take anything from them. It doesn;t have to be zero sum. At this point I would trade the whole pack of them for one of these kids- who have to be tough and brave to get here in the first place, tougher and braver than any of these coddled, privileged blabbermouths who have never wanted for anything a day in their lives.

  155. 155.

    Ruckus

    @Ohio Mom:
    Primarily why I vent here.
    One of my docs thinks I may have Parkinson’s. I have a bunch of the symptoms, what I think was a problem 8-9 months ago was the stage of my symptoms. Things have gotten worse and on some days, it’s bad. Best explanation I’ve come up with about how it feels constantly is it’s like a car that is supposed to idle at 800 RPM, but is idling at 1800 RPM. There is just a constant level of stress/movement going on. That’s just the every day stuff. There are lots of moving bits and pieces. And some days, like yesterday, the tremors, which I’ve had for a while and which are getting worse, just take over. Last Thursday I had to ask a coworker do something for me because I couldn’t control my fingers/hands well or safely enough. As I stated above, it is what it is. The VA will most likely figure it out, it just takes a while. But I wonder what I’ll do if the shitgibbon and friends tries to cut back the VA in the way they are trying to cut back Medicare or SS? Cutting back any of those would make my life untenable. And I doubt I’d be happy about that.

  157. 157.

    Ruckus

    @Kay:
    I really can’t think of anything worse for an over privileged asswipe than to be in prison. Then they find out how good they used to think they didn’t have it. And of course I’m not talking about one of those low risk, stuck in a nice beach community bullshit jails. I’m talking about any big city jail or a county jail like that fuckstick in AZ ran. A peanut butter sandwich on 2 day old white bread with no butter for lunch or surprise chill for dinner, lights out a 9, lights on at 6, community showers/toilets….. Damn that sounds a lot like the navy I was in. OK there the bread got to 10 days old before they ran out and had to make some. Back to today. I don’t want these asswipes to be hung, I want them all to live out their lives in the same conditions that they are keeping innocent kids in. I want them to never have another free day. And I normally disapprove of long sentences. No disapproval for this bunches overly long sentences.

  158. 158.

    Aleta

    They are so corrupt that the story about Wilbur Ross shorting stock in a shipping company that did “substantial business with a Russian energy firm called Sibur, whose owners include Putin’s son-in-law Kirill Shamalov and Gennady Timchenko, a Russian oligarch”* (the day after he learned the NYT was writing a story) is struggling for space and attention.

    * from Bloomberg

  159. 159.

    Aleta

    @Ruckus: Don’t want to bother you with questions you’re probably tired of. So it’s OK to ignore these if you prefer — Has anyone suggested a support group for (possible) Parkinsons? Has any doctor suggested medication? I have two friends with it. One was initially misdiagnosed with Lyme, so the Parkinsons diagnosis was relatively late. (Btw Have you been tested for Lyme?)

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