I don’t have any time at all to fundraise, but I’m going to try to highlight good ads done by Dem candidates and then do fundraisers for them. Seems like a good time to start right now after the Trump/Miller debacle of the past week.
In the fall, I will put together a fund again I hope. I may try to recruit some of you to help me. This election is too important to leave any money on the table.
This is a great ad, done by MJ Hegar, running in TX-31.
Let’s raise some money for her.
rikyrah
Thanks for this.
Will you do one for the Democratic Candidate for Governor in Georgia?
Doug!
@rikyrah:
Sure thing. Can you email me a blurb and video that I can paste into a post?
germy
Michelle Alexander, author of the best-selling book The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, will become a columnist for the New York Times Opinion pages, the Times announced Thursday.
TaMara (HFG)
Thank you! I didn’t know how to do the act blue thing when I posted her video this week. You are a god.
jl
We have to work for a blue tsunami in November. Money, time, talk with friends and family, letters to editor, anything anyone can do.
Trump’s short attention span and childish fantasy life may help us. The miserable fool cooked up, or someone placated him with, the notion of an Orange Wave in November. He gets bored too quickly to carry through with his and his flunkies’ disastrous and evil schemes. Except ordering up lists for new BS and harmful tariffs is easy enough for him to keep up, which may mess up the economy enough be November to hurt the GOP without causing permanent harm (I am hoping the rest of the world does not give up on the patient until we allow Trump to play doctor for more than two years).
So, good chance Trump will while away the time by concentrating on his idiotic and noxious rallies, and playing Trade Warrior fantasy games.
Four months, one week, and a few days change until November election.
jl
I’ve been going back and forth between ‘while’ and ‘wile’ away the time. Grammar site on internet says either is OK.
Trump whiles away the time because he is too stupid to wile it away, he can merely fill it up with his childish and toxic BS.
Unfortunately, some Trumpster are just smart enough to wile it.
efgoldman
@germy:
How did she sneak in? Must be a mistake
debbie
@jl:
Definitely “while.”
ETA: Merriam-Webster defines the verb “wile” as “luring as if by magic.” So you could be right.
The Ancient Randonneur
@germy: Wow! That is great news. The book is a must read for anyone interested in the history our Justice system.
Doug!
@TaMara (HFG):
The ActBlue stuff is slightly painful to learn unfortunately .
raven
@debbie:
Lapassionara
@germy: Yes!
Mnemosyne
@jl:
Mango Mussolini is making me nervous with his talk of a “red wave” — it makes me think that he’s already working with Russian hackers to mess with the vote. But that’s what makes it imperative that we have a huge turn-out on our side. It’s the only way to counter those kinds of shenanigans.
Play like we’re 10 points behind, all the way to November.
efgoldman
@jl:
Weasel Face is not a politician; he doesn’t understand elections or votes [he doesn’t understand any fucking thing]; he hit the powerball by chance and that makes him a genius.
If he doesn’t stroke out before November, a wave might force it.
Kathleen
@germy: Do you think they realize she thinks Jim Crow is bad thing?
germy
@Kathleen: Maybe they hired her thinking she’d defend Jim Crow. Good point.
Maybe the opinion editor said, “Can we just get this guy Jim Crow to write a column? Does anyone have his contact info?”
germy
@Mnemosyne:
Reminds me of W during the 2000 race. “Heh heh heh, we’ve got this in the bag,” he said.
I think he was with Jeb when he said this.
jl
@Mnemosyne: Agreed there. We have to hope that Trumpsters are too incompetent to actively collaborate. Seems like at least half of the big Trumpster voting suppression effort fell apart due to abject and truly hilarious incompetence. Kobach’s flunkies are reduced to flirting with jail time by claiming that the word ‘immediately’ in a court order is ambiguous.
Most states are very jealous of their own voting system. Even if some are just that only for the purpose or rigging their own elections. they don’t want anyone else to have the power to do the rigging. We have to hope that two years is just not enough time, and 400+ Congressional district elections, run by the 50 individual states and DC are too many to effectively rig.
One thing to remember that a true voter tsunami in 400+ races is just to many to rig effectively. Tell anyone worrying about rigging, that an unexpectedly massive turnout is one of the best ways to beat that kind of deviltry. Having the House is a very important beachhead in this political war to retain democracy.
raven
@germy: Gee when else did an candidate think it was in the bag?
piratedan
still a great ad, and it works on a local level not just a national one. Nothing beats personal
zhena gogolia
@raven:
No question, it’s “while.”
JPL
My representative Karen Handel, tries to stop Ted Lieu from playing the audio of the babies crying on the House floor.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/watch-dem-lawmaker-plays-audio-crying-immigrant-kids-republican-tries-shut/
zhena gogolia
@germy:
They do have Paul Krugman and Charles Blow, after all, who are impeccable (now; Krugman wasn’t good on Obama), and Gail Collins and Michelle Goldman, who aren’t too bad. So it’s not all that surprising. But encouraging!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl:
DC doesn’t elect a voting member of Congress.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: thanks oh wise and knowledgeable one. Simi Valley Boy Scouts are always prepared.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Milky Way from Mt. Pinos. The trees aren’t the right height.
ETA: Wouldn’t know about the scouts in Slimy Valley.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Thanks, Very nice pic.
gene108
Can we do a fundraiser for Andy KIm, who is looking to unseat my odious Rep. Tom MacArthur?
NJ-3, like other NJ districts held by Republicans are ones we need to win to retake the House.
jl
Trump doesn’t understand the great banana trade war. Sad. Loser. A mess.
@paulkrugman
As James Stewart says, one reason the “banana war” is a bad precedent for Trump is that in that case the U.S. worked with the system — we were the ones demanding that others abide by WTO rules 1/
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1010145079435124737
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@jl:
I think that if turnout is large enough we’ll be ok. Even if the GOP somehow managed to maintain control over the House, I don’t think anybody would believe the results. They voted, after all. There would be massive demonstrations calling on GOP officials to resign and for new elections.
I don’t care if there isn’t anything in the Constitution, something will have to be done or else shit will stop functioning.
TenguPhule
@jl:
Sadly, its not a fantasy.
Trump has literally picked a fight with EVERY MAJOR TRADING PARTNER of the USA.
EVERY SINGLE ONE. Counter-tariffs are kicking in this month and more are coming starting in July.
We are headed for a 2019 recession. Possibly the worst one ever in American history.
There is going to be a strong push for Democrats to “come together across the aisle” to fix Trump’s deliberate fuckup of everything.
It can’t be allowed to happen. This is War. No Quarter. No bailouts.
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
/puts money down on shit stopping to function
rikyrah
Tell it, Bishop
https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/status/1010178995722379264
The Ancient Randonneur
@JPL:
**
Oh my, was Congressman Lieu being uncivil? How does one recover from such an atrocity?
debbie
@raven:
Absolutely right!
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
Trump’s fuckups will be only be fixed when Dems have unified control over the federal government. We’ll certainly try to offer solutions that the GOP and Trump will shoot down. But that’s ok. We’ll make them all own it. Turn it around on them: why aren’t you working with us?
Kathleen
@germy: Cue Twitter Magsplain: White House sources are saying Stephen Miller’s new aid, Jim Crow, will bring the skillset Stephen needs to remain viable.”
TenguPhule
@jl:
The key to successful vote rigging is to get just enough votes in just enough districts to retain a majority.
The enemy isn’t going to target every race. Just the ones that they need to survive.
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
I’m sorry, have you seen the media we have to work with these days?
debbie
@raven:
Just listened and bookmarked. My favorite version of his!
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
But here’s the thing; historically, the midterm elections go pretty badly for the president’s party. If the House doesn’t flip, we’ll know something is wrong and we’ll have to demand new elections
jl
@TenguPhule: I think you are both too alarmist and too complacent. If the trade wars only last a little while, they won’t have a big effect on the economy. If they only last over the summer, supplier stockpiling, which is already happening, will reduce the impact, and in some cases defeat them. Hilariously, the (now it can definitively be said) liar and crook Wilbur Ross who shorted his stock to profit off an upcoming negative story about him and his corruption, was complaining that suppliers stock piling steel were evildoers, and committing treasonous sabotage of Trump’s great patriotic trade crusade.
And, until House and Senate can be regained, Trump will eagerly play a trade war of his fantasies as much as he wants (all he has to do is sit on his fat dumb ass and order up someone else to compile lists of paired goods and numbers), with transparently false rationales, due to powers Congress has given the Executive. I think the judiciary will let Trump get away with it in deference to the mere word ‘national security’ even if the logic is ridiculous and the evidence nonexistent.
The Ancient Randonneur
@TenguPhule:
I’ve been reading the Des Moines Register for the past couple of weeks and the tears haven’t started yet. But I do see signs that a slow realization of just how bad things might get dawning on Trumplandia. All those phony Midwestern smiles are about to get an economic bat right square in the kisser.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
We’ll have to work on them too. Won’t be easy, but anything worth achieving rarely is.
marcopolo
Thanks for posting. Gave money to MJ’s campaign earlier this week, along with Amy McGrath in KY 6, Betsy Londrigan in IL 13, and Audrey Denney in CA 1. Denney is a true long shot but both Amy & Betsy have a chance given a decent blue wave.
And I’ve seen in a few threads folks talking about how their congressional races are not competitive. For starters, I think there are now only 4 House races without a D candidate running. That is freaking unbelievablevable. Everyone BJer now represented by an R should consider doing some volunteering in their home district. First, you’ll be spreading the D message, even if the R is an overwhelming favorite. Second, if there are contested statewide races (like for Senate here in MO), every D vote counts no matter which congressional district it is cast in. For Claire McCaskill to win she needs a blowout vote in KC and StL AND to keep the R margin in rural red areas as small as possible.
Or if you live in a ultra safe R (or D) district but a more flippable one is close by go help there. I live in blue blue blue MO 1 but will be driving a few miles south to help the D candidate in MO 2 (once the primary is over in August and we have a D nominee). I have already gone across the Mississippi to IL 12 twice to help out Brendan Kelly beat Mike Bost in IL 12 (that is the best red to blue flip possibility close to me).
If you are in a safe R or D district but too long a drive away to help with a competitive/flippable race then donate some scratch & go to postcards to voters to help with sending GOTV postcards to voters across the country.
Trust me, whatever winds up happening in November you will feel better if you’ve helped out on a campaign between now and then. And mucho thanks to all the BJers who are doing it!
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@jl:
But that’s not fair. These people have to face the consequences of their actions. These suppliers are wrong to do this; they’re protecting Trump’s supporters whether they realize it or not.
jl
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: With a huge turnout and unexpectedly huge wave, will be hard to guess which of the 400+ districts to jigger. And if we do reach a tragic extremity, then you are right, hundreds of thousands of people in the streets, and general strikes will start to roll things back. More and more evidence coming in that Trump is the miserable coward some people have been saying he is.
Now is the time to full potential swing and new voters with confidence, not fear or doubt.
GregB
The trip down Trump’s golden escalator to Hell is gaining speed. At his ghoulish event where families of crime victims are retelling their tagic stories, they are holding large pictures of their loved ones that Trump has garishly signed.
A descent into madness.
trollhattan
@JPL:
My God that woman is an utter shitbag. Is her seat vulnerable?
Another Scott
I agree it’s a great ad. I sent her some money yesterday.
One thing I really liked about it was the credit at the end which said that the DCCC also helped pay for it.
More, please.
Cheers,
Scott.
Mnemosyne
@JPL:
I think you should call Handel’s office and asked what happened to her concerns about babies. She ran saying she was worried about all of the babies being killed by Planned Parenthood, and now ACTUAL babies are being harmed. Why isn’t Handel helping the babies in need?
Now, you and I know exactly why Handel isn’t helping babies in need, and that’s why you want to push the “babies” line when you call her office. Babies need help! Why isn’t Handel helping the babies? I thought she was “pro-life” and wanted to help babies!
Make sure you use the word “babies” at least once in every sentence. I bet you could get the intern to stammer.
rikyrah
That is exactly where they should wind up ???
https://twitter.com/NicoleS35317814/status/1010160389210955777
jl
@GregB: Need to contact media and tell them to do their jobs and report facts. Immigration does not increase crime, period. It is true that there are isolated cases of tragedies and crimes committed by immigrants.
But you could easily get a a short list of horrid crimes committed by the great Celtic Ginger Threat, and yell about the country being overrun with the vile Gingers. Or the Krauts. Or even my people, the vicious Irish-Zuricher threat. Need to put those Irish-Zuricher filth in camps.
The Moar You Know
@raven: Changed his guitar strings once. Fucker didn’t want to pay for it. Thought he was rock royalty or some shit like that.
First music store gig I’d ever worked. I made ’em all pay, even Betts and the Allman guys. I was a young punk, didn’t know who the hell any of those old guys were and didn’t care. My boss was horrified. But y’know something weird…they all came back.
ruemara
@rikyrah: AS an FYI, he’s talking good now, but he didn’t vote for Hillary in 2016.
rikyrah
Plans to build concentration camps
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1010230152092180480
jl
@ruemara: We can fight that out after we beat back the Trumpsters.
Amir Khalid
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
Demand new elections? How? What constitutional provision lets a political party demand a redo of an election that didn’t go its way?
trollhattan
JRubz hits Trump where he’s most vulnerable, calling him weak.
In tandem with Michelle Wolf repeatedly calling Trump broke, attacking his manly vanity and wealth are the two things up with which he cannot put.
The Moar You Know
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Fair? FAIR? Fuck, you have to be kidding me. The suppliers are absolutely right to do this: their duty is not to pick sides in a political spat, but to stay in business. Does it protect Trump’s supporters? Probably. Is that the goal? Absolutely not.
If I know something is coming down the pike that’s going to cost my employer money, I’d damn well better do what I can to mitigate that and help the business do what they can, or be out on the fucking street.
You’re usually WAY smarter than this.
jl
@Amir Khalid: I don’t know of one. Would be interesting to hear from the BJ legal flying wedge on the topic.
But the point is for mass quantities of citizens to scare the crap out of state and local authorities and enlist them in throwing sand in corrupt and illegitimate federal gears. And even at the federal level, even if (God forbid) another GOP House with just a couple of GOPers making the difference, and a dozen GOPers who just had the crap scared out of them in the general, will act very differently than the one we have now.
There will be desperate measures if we reach desperate times, and they will work if people get out in the streets before things have gone too far down the road of authoritarianism.
The Ancient Randonneur
My hero Congressman John Lewis:
https://mobile.twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/1009471314485227522
Amir Khalid
@The Moar You Know:
How does a guitar player not know how/get too lazy to change strings for himself?
The Moar You Know
@Amir Khalid: Christ, if there was one we should have busted that out November 9, 2016.
I can’t think of any democracy that has such a provision, interestingly enough.
raven
@The Moar You Know: In Macon? Me and a buddy were talking about Chuck Berry the other night. We went to a show in Decatur, IL and he wouldn’t play until the crowd passed the hat and gave him more. We passed it all right but he ain’t got none of it!
rikyrah
@The Ancient Randonneur:
BRAVO!
jl
@trollhattan: Trump is just such a childish fool, he doesn’t understand how to allow the media to play its preferred ‘bothsidedoitism’.
We’ve seen it before, with far better people. I think McCain during his presidential campaign, forced the media to do it’s job. The ‘bad’ McCain just couldn’t help himself as the economy fell apart, and along with Palin, dealt the media hands that they could not play as they preferred.
Hard for the media to play their usual lazy game, when they have to cover Trump as he blows the whole Kabuki Theater to smithereens.
The Ancient Randonneur
@Amir Khalid: Just wait until you’ve been on tour with your very own guitar tech for a while, then you’ll get it.
The Moar You Know
@Amir Khalid: Called a “gear tech”, still very common with any decently-sized touring band, and they just do it for you. They also make sure the thing is set up just the way you want it. I understand the allure! Truth be told, most guitar players are not very good at it. They’ve only done a few hundred in their lives. I’ve done well over 5,000 and that’s a pretty conservative estimate. I can do it better, and FAR faster, and it’s not very pricey. So, that’s how.
raven
@The Moar You Know: A buddy was REM’s gear tech. When he got married the band came in, picked up the wedding band’s gear and played 7 songs. I had just bought a new camera I got the video (save one song where I zoomed too much and distorted the visuals) I’ve asked their manager if it’s ok if I put it on youtube and he always hems and haws so no one has ever seen it.
The Moar You Know
@raven: Nope, San Diego, he was playing a block away. He was a really nice guy.
Chuck Berry was known for that bullshit. That’s one guy I would have flat-out refused to do ANYTHING for under any circumstances, he had a reputation for treating people like absolute shit that frankly was not only deserved, but less known than it should have been.
Teddys Person
@The Ancient Randonneur: John Lewis is a national treasure.
Mnemosyne
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
Let’s not wait. Let’s start working now to get people out to vote in huge numbers.
Swamping the vote with our side is the best way to prevent shenanigans.
cmorenc
That indeed *is* the best political ad I’ve ever seen. If people are hungering for a natural strong no-bullshit leader and listener, she’s it.
trollhattan
@The Moar You Know:
This may sound like a stretch comparison but lacing a bicycle wheel is also a bit of an artform only attained with a LOT of repetition. I’ve never built a wheel but have re-spoked wheels and am simply no match for someone who builds them routinely. A well-made wheel not only rides better, it’s stronger and remains true much longer. I’m guessing a well-strung guitar stays in tune rather longer, dunno about broken string frequency though.
raven
@The Moar You Know: Huh, I’ve never seen this article:
efgoldman
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
Haven’t you been paying attention? Shit stopped functioning after the RWNJs took control of both houses. I certainly wouldn’t call what’s happening on Capitol Hill the last four years or so “functional”
cmorenc
@The Moar You Know:
Another famous musical artist, the one who just won a Nobel Prize (Bob Dylan) is someone I went to see *once* – NEVER again. His demeanor toward the audience was unforgivably rude and distant – I don’t need a performer to blatantly suck up to the audience, but he never look at or acknowledged the 10-15k people there to see him *once* – didn’t even speak a word to us. What made his bad demeanor stand out even more was that he was doing a doubleheader tour with Willie Nelson, who went on first – Willie has a way of making the audience at his concerts feel like invited guests to a picnic out at his ranch.
efgoldman
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
And? Fantasyland
eric
@Amir Khalid: See The Edge.
trollhattan
@The Moar You Know:
Heh, James Brown stories aren’t far off. He’d fine band members for what he considered fuckups, on stage and in real time, indicated via flashing hand signals behind his back. A story (apocryphal?) is one show he was busy dancing, got distracted and fell off the stage, signaling band fines on his way down.
Show biz.
raven
@cmorenc: When I saw Miles he had his back turned on the audience the entire show,
rikyrah
Jeff Sessions Now Says the Administration “Never Really Intended” to Separate Families. Liar Liar Liar!
By BEN MATHIS-LILLEY
JUNE 21, 20185:35 PM
Attorney general Jeff Sessions tried to do some cleanup on the administration’s unpopular and maybe-disavowed family separation policy in a Thursday interview with Christian broadcaster CBN. Here’s one of the things he said:
It hasn’t been good and the American people don’t like the idea that we are separating families. We never really intended to do that. What we intended was to make sure that adults who bring children into the country are charged with the crime that they have committed.
Nope!
• In March 2017, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer asked White House chief of staff John Kelly, who was then running the Department of Homeland Security, if DHS was considering a policy that would “separate the children from their moms and dads” at the border. Kelly said that DHS was “considering exactly that” in order to deter other potential undocumented crossings.
• In May 2018, Kelly was asked during an NPR interview if he supported the now-imminent plan to prosecute all border-crossers in such a way that would separate children from their parents. He answered affirmatively, noting that “the laws are the laws” and “a big name of the game is deterrence.” His interviewer responded that “family separation stands as a pretty tough deterrent,” to which Kelly then said that it would indeed “be a tough deterrent” and would create “a much faster turnaround on asylum seekers.”
• On a media call in June, a Health and Human Services official reiterated the administration expected and hoped that family separation would result in a deterrence effect.
And, of course, there was the time on May 7 when attorney general Jeff Sessions literally stood in front of a fence at the California-Mexico border and pretended to talk directly to potential undocumented border-crossers in a speech:
I have put in place a “zero tolerance” policy for illegal entry on our Southwest border. If you cross this border unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It’s that simple. If you smuggle illegal aliens across our border, then we will prosecute you. If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you and that child will be separated from you as required by law.
Incidentally, according to DHS’ own numbers, groups that include suspected smugglers make up 0.61 percent of the family units apprehended at the border. (The separation policy Sessions was announcing, of course, applied to all family units.)
In summary, a politician is being dishonest!
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
This has been repeatedly pointed out to you by other commentors that this is not true.
trollhattan
@raven:
Love the idea somebody could unironically get married at a bowling alley.
Ohio Mom
@germy: As an expert in incarceration used for political purposes, Alexander certainly has her work cut out for her. I wonder if this is a permanent gig or just for a few months.
TenguPhule
@jl:
Are you familiar with “short victorious war”?
rikyrah
President Trump’s roundup of immigrants is beginning to resemble a sort of ethnic cleansing campaign. He’s already proven that he won’t be constrained by our democratic norms, our respect for human rights or even basic human decency. https://t.co/DVGGyrOMLx
— Southern Poverty Law Center (@splcenter) June 22, 2018
rikyrah
As HHS tent city filled with kids, Azar left for college reunion
Rachel Maddow reports that HHS Secretary Alex Azar, whose purview includes the facilities housing separated migrant kids whose parents can’t find them, skipped out for his college reunion on the day after his agency build a tent city in Texas to house migrant children taken from their parents.
Gravenstone
@Amir Khalid: Shh, don’t spoil the kid’s beautiful fantasy.
rikyrah
Conscientious objectors to Trump border policy get free legal aid
Jason Rittereiser, whose law firm has offered free legal representation federal employees who refuse to carry out Donald Trump’s migrant family separation policy, talks with Rachel Maddow about response to the offer both from other lawyers wanting to help and at least five government employees who have reached out for help.
rikyrah
Senators push back on DoD over JAGs assigned to immigration cases
Rachel Maddow reports on a letter sent to Defense Secretary Mattis from Senators Gillibrand, Leahy, and Ernst, asking him to reconsider sending JAGs to border states to help the DoJ prosecute immigration cases.
Amir Khalid
@rikyrah:
This is my shocked face.
TenguPhule
@jl:
Cue martial law, crackdowns and finding out which side the majority of military and law enforcement stand with.
rikyrah
Kids removed from parents by Trump policy suffer lasting trauma
Dr. Marsha Griffin, pediatrician and co-chair of The American Academy of Pediatrics Special Interest Group on Immigrant Health, talks with Rachel Maddow about the lasting developmental damage done to children when they’re taken away from their parents.
rikyrah
Multiple states sue Trump admin to stop family separation policy
Rachel Maddow reports on a lawsuit filed by Washington state Attorney General Bob Ferguson and joined by several other states to stop Donald Trump’s migrant family separation policy.
Jun.21.2018
jl
@rikyrah: ‘beginning’ to?
efgoldman
@TenguPhule:
Enough apocalypse for one day. Fuck, it’s still late afternoon in the East, can’t you save any of your bullshit for later when Adam will be around to stomp on you?
Mnemosyne
@rikyrah:
Unfortunately, he went to Dartmouth, so he’ll probably get a standing ovation from his classmates. ?
rikyrah
National Enquirer consulted Cohen, Trump on 2016 stories: WaPo
Rachel Maddow shares reporting from the Washington Post that the National Enquirer sent stories about Donald Trump to Michael Cohen for approval before publishing and took suggestions for stories about Hillary Clinton from Trump.
Jun.21.2018
geg6
@cmorenc:
Saw him once myself and was completely insulted by what a jerk he was.
He was playing the old Civic Arena here in Pittsburgh and Mark Knopfler was playing guitar in his band. Knopfler was the only one entertaining the audience. Dylan literally kept his back turned to the audience for the entire concert. Never once turned around or acknowledged the audience. Asshole. I’ll never see him again. Jerk.
raven
@trollhattan: It was great, a little 7 lane joint just up the street!
germy
@Ohio Mom: Well, I hope it’s a permanent gig.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@TenguPhule: Tengu, cut the paranoia out; Trump isn’t getting demonic aid. Who in the administration has the focus, political experience and the skills to work with the GOP House caucus to craft a detailed plan like that? Manfort is in jail, Bannon is out of power and Trump doesn’t even listen to his own lawyers.
Gelfling 545
@Mnemosyne: My daughter interned in Gillibrand’s local office when she was an undergrad. She says some the phone calls were a hoot. One constituent used to compose a somg based on issues highlighted through the week and call up and sing it to them.
Mnemosyne
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a performer who was a jerk to the audience or didn’t face them. I think the closest to that was when I saw the Pogues and Shane McGowan would go to the back of the stage to smoke and drink a Heineken when he wasn’t singing lead.
germy
@geg6: “Contempt for the audience. That’s what killed Dennis Day.”
geg6
@TenguPhule:
You’ve been relentlessly quashing any optimism anyone may feel for the last few days. For a while there, you were getting better to read, but I’m going to start skipping over your comments again. You are killing any hope anyone may ever have. It’s really a bummer to have to use my version of pie on you again, but I can’t take the 24/7 “we’re all gonna die” ranting. I just can’t.
The Ancient Randonneur
@Mnemosyne:
Dinesh D’Souza got a warm welcome a few months after completing his sentence.
Yarrow
@rikyrah: Since you mentioned the National Enquirer:
And just as a matter of interest, when I searched for this article both the WSJ and the NYT came up in the news list as having articles about it.
WSJ: “Publisher of National Enquirer Subpoenaed in Michael Cohen Probe”
NYT: “National Enquirer Executives Said to Be Subpoenaed in Cohen Investigation”
Said to be?
raven
@germy: I knew Doris Day before she was a virgin!
germy
@Yarrow: Sometimes I think the person in charge of writing headlines is the same person in charge of the opinion page.
Some good reporting from the NYT that is often watered down by the headlines.
germy
@raven: Oscar Levant got kicked off TV for saying that.
efgoldman
@germy:
Some editor years ago probably included conditional headlines in their style book, and they’ve gone with it ever since.
They suck, they’re uninformative, and they don’t draw the reader into the story
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@germy: Ha! that makes it funnier
Gelfling 545
@The Moar You Know: Yes,just as I’d prefer getting secure and affordable health care for all (by Divine intervention or some curious concatenation of circumstances), get the Dreamers legal status, reunite families, etc. though it might risk making Trump and his minions look less bad. We can always count on them to make themselves look bad in some other way anyhow.
raven
@germy: I meant to put quotation marks on it!
germy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Oscar was a quote machine. He once told an interviewer he’d been kicked out of a mental hospital because he was depressing the other patients.
efgoldman
@germy:
Given his Droopy Dog face and the way he talked, that was a credible joke.
Yes, I’m old enough to remember him on the TeeVee machine.
waysel
@raven: I hadn’t heard that one. It’s very funny.
germy
@efgoldman: I remember a clip of his Jack Paar appearance.
Paar asked him what he did for exercise.
“I stumble… and I fall into a coma,” was his reply.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@germy: I used to have a book called the Portable Curmudgeon. As I recall, half of it was quotes and anecdotes from the Algonquin Round Table, including Dorothy Parker saying the whole ART was overrated– a bunch of drunks sitting around asking each other, have you heard the clever thing I said the other day?
Amir Khalid
@The Moar You Know:
I’ll never get pro enough to hire a guitar tech. Like all the other amateurs I’ll have to learn to be my own tech.
Anotherlurker
@trollhattan: In defense of James Brown, Taj and other “difficult” acts, many of them experienced being ripped off by promoters and othere management.
Ray Charles was very hip to the big possibility that his work could be recorded and bootlegged.
Ray had members of his team make sure that any video/audio recording means were un-plugged if he was not one of the acts being recorded.
One of the best gigs I shot was an up-front. The after show act was the Eagles. We had to unplug our cameras and audio multi, cover the equipment and wait for them to finish their full 90 min. set.
We were heartbroken.
Not! We were on O.T and the band kicked ass!
germy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think she may have been right about the ART. At least about guys like Alexander Woollcott.
And who nowadays reads Franklin P. Adams?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@germy: I still would’ve liked to sit at the next table and eavesdrop every now and then
I wouldn’t have wanted to go drink for drink with them, especially Mrs Parker.
The Moar You Know
@trollhattan: Odd you should mention. My only non-music industry job – up to my current one, which has nothing to do with it – was managing a Performance Bike. And you are spot-on in your assumptions. A properly strung guitar should stay in tune for a long time and yes, it reduces broken strings (a properly set up guitar will NEVER break strings).
My mechanic built my wheelset – and I had him build it total overkill as I was an urban rider in SF. It took him about four hours. I couldn’t have done it in four weeks. It has never needed truing, even after crashes, and I still ride ’em. Twenty years later.
germy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: A documentary about them, “The Ten Year Lunch” is on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ObXzrP4wdc
eric
@Amir Khalid: and talk yourself into how your strings are not “that” dirty. and if you dont have locking tuners, go get them…..
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@efgoldman:
And? You continuously harass them until they do something. Make their lives unbearable. Mass demonstrations demanding change worked in many eastern European countries at the close of the Cold War.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
That’s funny. I didn’t say it would happen every midterm election, but there is a historical trend. And with these fascist cretins in charge, would you believe the results?
trollhattan
@The Moar You Know:
Nice. Treasure them!
The Moar You Know
@Amir Khalid: It’s looking as though I won’t either :)
Been doing it since I was fifteen. In my early fifties now. I love it. I still absolutely love it. Do all my own work and knock out a few guitars (not from parts, either) per year out of my garage – it’s a lot easier when you work in a shop! But since I don’t have room for a lot of the tooling, I end up doing a lot of work by hand, and those aren’t bad skills to have.
Jager
@raven:
Chuck Berry was weird and cheap, he didn’t have a band and hadn’t for a long time. He get a few locals to back him up, pay scale and move on to the next gig. A friend of mine played drums and was excited as hell to play with Chuck. He and the other locals showed up 3 hours early for a show at a dinner theater, they set up and waited for Chuck to show. About 10 minutes before showtime, Chuck walked in and said, “you guys all know my stuff, just watch me and play along.” No wonder his shows sucked for about the last 40 years of his career.
The Moar You Know
@trollhattan: I do. And the bike they’re on. Last of the really good steel Rockhopper frames, Specialized sent them out to bike shop employees, which I thought was a class move.
raven
@Jager: And at the show I was at he had the lead payer unplugged because he was too good.
Steve in the ATL
@marcopolo: related question: are you going to Bob Costas bobble head night on Monday?
raven
@Anotherlurker: I hate the fucking Eagles man. . .
Jager
@trollhattan:
In Keith Richards’ biography, “Life” he tells a story about the young Stones opening for Brown on a UK Tour. They finally were invited to an after gig party with Brown and his band. One musician was shining JB’s shoes, another pressing his pants, another running out for food, etc. Keith says he was “appalled but Mick was enthralled.” Great book.
TenguPhule
@efgoldman: You expect these assholes to respond rationally to the proposed scenario?
Mnemosyne
@germy:
He got kicked off twice. The final straw was after Marilyn Monroe converted to Judaism after her marriage to Arthur Miller, and Levant said, “Now that Marilyn is kosher, Arthur Miller can eat her.”
On live TV, IIRC.
TenguPhule
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Russia? Some GOP members with simple self interest? i don’t know why people keep thinking that this has to be a big plan. A few small plans in the right places are just as dangerous and those tight districts should be the ones where attention should be paid,.
PJ
@Mnemosyne: Shane always did that, he wasn’t being rude, it’s just that it’s hard work being an alcoholic and he needed to rest when he wasn’t singing. Besides, otherwise, he’d just be standing there with his mouth half full of teeth doing nothing.
Jager
@raven:
One of my best radio pals was the program director of an album rock station in Philly in the 70’s, the entire staff hated the fucking Eagles. He told them, “if you hate the fucking Eagles that much, turn down the speakers and take your fucking headset off.”. When he took over WNEW in NYC, the staff told, him “New York isn’t a rock and roll town like Boston and Philly.” Charlie laughed and said, “Lou Reed, Talking Heads, Steely Dan, that guy from Jersey, what’s his name, Bruce something…”
Steve in the ATL
@raven: @The Moar You Know: that fucker also stiffed his lawyers!
PJ
@Jager: Another anecdote I heard was, when Chuck finally showed up, one of the pickup musicians asked him what songs they were going to play, and Chuck turned and said, “We’re going to play some Chuck Berry songs.”
Sometime in the 90s, the Circle Jerks were playing in St. Louis and the manager came on stage and asked if this old guy could get up and play with them. Greg Hetson: “About halfway through the show, the stage manager hands me a note saying, ‘Chuck Berry is here and he wants to play with you. Is that okay?’ I say, ‘Yes, of course! Bring him up!’ So I unplugged one of my amps and gave him my spare guitar.” Berry calls out for “Roll Over Beethoven” and Hetson turns to bandmate Zander Schloss: “Oh shit, what key? Then I remembered from watching Keith Richards in Hail! Hail! Rock ‘n’ Roll that most of his songs were in C, so I yell “C!” And we followed his lead. He left before we finished our set so we didn’t get to meet him. Our singer, Keith Morris, heard from the club manager that he thought we were one of the best rock bands he’d ever seen. Who would have thunk?” And here’s Keith Morris about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ9tzt2CN0E
germy
@Mnemosyne:
I remember reading his memoirs when I was a teenager. I think there were two books.
Harpo Marx had some interesting things to say about him in his own autobiography.
I remember seeing a grainy clip of Oscar’s own (short-lived) TV show. Fred Astaire was the guest. At one point, Astaire reaches out to shake Oscar’s hand. Oscar just stares at him.
Apparently, shaking hands was one of his phobias or something.
raven
@Jager: Fucking Irving Assoff.
debbie
@raven:
Even Joe Walsh’s guitar?
Jager
@debbie:
Joe was “Fucking Irving Assoff’s idea”.
debbie
@Jager:
Not familiar with him, but I liked Walsh’s work on the song Hotel California. Couldn’t stand listening to him speak though.
ETA::Wiki tells me he was with Ticketmaster. Okay, he’s a schmuck.
Raven
That was old business. I knew Irving when he ran light shows in Champaign
Raven
@debbie: he owns Live Nation. Got his start with bands with Fogleberg and the Eagles.
debbie
The stories here have been great. All this behind-the-scenes stuff. All I’ve ever been is one of the idiots jumping up and down in front of the speakers.
Raven
@debbie: I don’t know if gunfire or the dead ruined my hearing
debbie
@Raven:
Yeah, my days of hearing “Yanny” are long gone.
Marcopolo
@germy:@Steve in the ATL: will be in PA through July 1–leave tomorrow.
J R in WV
@marcopolo:
My congressional district is WV#3 and the candidate is a retired Army Major named Richard Ojeda — a WV Senate member who supports unions, medical cannabis, and who was attacked physically, put in the hospital during hsi last campaign. I’ve been contributing with Actblue on a monthly basis, and I intend to volunteer for whatever I can do in the near future.
His opponent is some Republican woman, which in this district is a good thing as there are quite a few voters who don’t believe in women running anything past their kitchen. I learned this doing phone work for a female Senate candidate in the election cycle before last. She was defeated by Shelly Moore Capito, now in the US Senate to steal everything not nailed down tight. MS Capito is the daughter of a previous governor of WV, the felon Arch A Moore.
Please consider kicking in to Richard’s campaign with me. He isn’t a wild eyed progressive like me, but for a Senate candidate I think he’s a pretty good egg. Click here!
Thanks!
Anotherlurker
@raven: LOL! to each their own.
They were so good live. Tight. Great harmonies.
Henley dedicated “Dirty Laundry” to “Rupert Murdoch, that fucking asshole” Gotta love that shout out.