NEW: Special counsel obtains Trump ally Erik Prince's phones, computer https://t.co/DIpPrp8RBH
— Yashar Ali ? (@yashar) June 25, 2018
Prince is another dangerous Banana Republican grifter who I’d be happy to see frogmarched, so this story met my requirements for Happy Daily Uplift:
… Prince, America’s most famous private military contractor, acknowledged last week that he “cooperated” with Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election after falling under scrutiny amid questions about an alleged effort to establish a backchannel between the Trump administration and the Kremlin, something Prince has vehemently denied.
ABC News has since learned that Mueller is also reviewing Prince’s communications, a sign that Mueller could try to squeeze Prince, as he has others, probing potential inconsistencies in his sworn testimony in an attempt to pressure him to turn into a witness against other targets of the investigation. In response to questions from ABC News, a spokesperson for Prince released a statement noting that Prince has provided Mueller with “total access to his phone and computer.”…
In April 2017, the Washington Post reported that Prince, whose sister Betsy DeVos is President Donald Trump’s education secretary, had traveled to the Seychelles in January following Trump’s election for a secret meeting with a Russian official with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Prince testified before the U.S. House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in November that he hadn’t made the trip “to meet any Russian guy” and described his meeting with Kirill Dmitriev, the Putin-appointed head of Russia’s sovereign wealth fund, as a chance encounter “over a beer.”
ABC News reported earlier this year that Mueller has obtained evidence that calls that testimony into question…
And that’s not the only potential inconsistency in Prince’s testimony before the House Intelligence Committee that appears to have caught the attention of investigators.
Prince had a simple answer when asked by Rep. Eric Swalwell, a Democrat from California, whether he ever had any “investments” or “business partnerships with Russian nationals.”
“Zero,” Prince replied.
Two of Prince’s former business associates, both of whom asked to remain anonymous, told ABC News they have been contacted by investigators probing a pair of proposed business deals between the Hong Kong-based security firm Frontier Services Group, of which Prince is the founder and chairman, and Russian nationals.
One former business associate, who has worked with Prince since the 1990s, recounted a recent conversation with FBI agents from Mueller’s office.
“Are you aware of any falsehoods in the testimony that Erik Prince gave to the House Intelligence Committee?” the associate said agents asked him.
The associate said he told the agents about Prince’s previously undisclosed alliance with Dimitriy Streshinskiy, a former Russian special forces soldier turned arms dealer and manufacturer…
Another former business associate told ABC News that he was approached by the FBI about Frontier Services Group’s dealings with the Russian state-owned energy firm Rostec. According to the former associate, Rostec asked Prince’s Frontier Services Group to work on logistics for a proposed refinery operation in Tanzania and Uganda.
“Frontier Services Group was trying to build a relationship with Rostec to be the logistics guys,” the associate said, “and Rostec met with Erik.” …
…[F]or Rep. Swalwell, a Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, the renewed focus on Prince is a welcome sign.
“I have a lot of questions about whether he was being straight with us,” Swalwell told ABC News. “I’m heartened to hear that the special counsel is doing what Republicans on the committee were not willing to do … and follow up and not take Mr. Prince at his word.”
Of course, Prince has his own private fortune to stand between him and justice…
“The legal fees were suffocating.” https://t.co/ACakwMjMsk
— VICE News (@vicenews) June 25, 2018
every single one of them has vastly more resources to secure a legal defense than 99% of people who come into contact with the justice system. And 100% of people who get their kids stolen from them at the border.
— zeddy (@Zeddary) June 25, 2018
Yeah, I can well remember when all the finest Repub media outlets were encouraging Ken Starr’s hopes of bankrupting the Clintons over
Watergate Whitewater even if they’d done nothing wrong (beyond being Democrats, that is). Also relevant, threatening crushing lawsuits has been Trump’s go-to tactic for not paying contractors any time during the last forty years. So my sympathy for the “suffocating fees” punishing these weasels is somewhere well into the negative numbers.
If Prince voluntarily turned over his computers and phone to Mueller, you know damned well that they aren’t the ones with the dirt…
Good Morning Everyone ???
Uh huh ?
The Ancient Randonneur
In that last paragraph you wrote Watergate. Did you mean to write Whitewater?
@rikyrah: Good morning ?!
@sukabi: pretty confident Mueller and his team would be aware of that.
@The Ancient Randonneur: Duh! Thanks — road trip is finally over, but brains have not yet returned to normal mode.
Off to bed, for now!
The Ancient Randonneur
As Prince never paid a meaningful price for his employees murdering innocent Iraqis, I hope Mueller rolls him up and he ends up in a prison cell between Paul Manafort and Roger Stone.
The Ancient Randonneur
@Anne Laurie: Congratulations on surviving and you’re welcome.
They all “cooperate”, right up to the point they get indicted. Then they cooperate. Except Manafort, but he has a preexisting condition that can be fatal if untreated.
famous private military contractorinfamous mercenary.
OT: I was going though some of my old Milky Way shots(the ones shot last year) to see if I could improve the look since I’ve learned a great deal since I took the pics. Here’s one that I think turned out well.
@Anne Laurie: Sweet dreams!
Remember when it was in very poor taste to call them mercenaries? So rude.
And yet they still kiss his fugly ass. Talk about codependency.
Civility, what does it mean?
And they lecture us about civility.
J R in WV
If the devices Prince turned over to Mueller’s team aren’t the ones that Mueller’s team have files from, that would be a felony, akin to false swearing. Prince thinks he plays a swift game, but he’s dealing with the real counter-intel professionals now. They have a lot of data to compare new offerings with, and they had better match up with already recorded communications, or else!
I can’t think of anyone (outside Trumpelstiltkin himself) I would rather see nailed by high-tech methods than Prince and his sister.
PS… My Nym and email were gone again, although they were there before. Same session as I haven’t turned off my device lately.
J R in WV
Billin, your photo looks great. Both the Joshua trees in the foreground and the starstruck sky. Do I see a tiny line along the edge of the hilltops? Is that where the two photos are merged? Could one of the focus-stacking tools do that a little slicker???
Still, the photo is great!
ETA: Now my Nym and email seem to be sticking again. No clue to what made them go away, maybe closing all my Balloon-Juice tabs?
@MagdaInBlack: Be Best bully you can.
The thug knows the press cowards will not call him out.
I hope Mueller’s team is as skilled and professional and thorough as reports seem to indicate. And I hope I live long enough to see them make a movie of it – if all goes well, it’d be the Apollo 13 of political thrillers (in that the jarring, suspension-of-disbelief-breaking elements are true).
@J R in WV: Actually it used part of the focus stacking workflow(auto align layers), but it didn’t work well in this case. I’d already fixed a problem on the right hand side, now I see there’s one of the left(possibly caused by what I did on the right).
J R in WV
It looks like when I edited comment 18, the Reply tag went away. For me at least. I’ll see if an update gets it back now.
Nym and email are still there…
ETA1 And when I posted this comment, the Reply tag reappeared on comment 18. I wonder if this edit will make it go away temporarily?
ETA 2 the reply looks invisible after the first edit, I’m surprised I got to try a second edit.
@J R in WV:
As bill o’ racist says, it’s like tides, they come and go and we don’t really know why.
Why is Maxine Waters the only politician being punished for civility infractions?
Good job, pundits and political news people. More excellent work. We now have two standards of behavior- a lower standard for the president and his administration and a higher standard for everyone who is not the president or a member of his administration. Literally everyone. Any random member of the public is now held to a higher standard of behavior than the President.
This is ludicrous. It’s ridiculous. No one will follow this standard, this new “norm” they invented over the last 24 hours, because it will make no sense to people, and it shouldn’t. It’s never been applied to anyone except Donald Trump.
Ummmm, let’s see: She’s Black. She’s a woman. She’s a DEM. Does that cover it?
The Prince family, including Betsy DeVos, have devoted their entire lives to funneling public money to private entities.
They are people who espouse government contracting. Their business model depends on public funding. It’s not even an ideology. It’s just a contract. They are people who encourage, start, run and profit from public funding of private businesses. That’s the long and short of what they “believe”. They move money around- take it from public entities and transfer it to private entities. The only way they “make” money is to skim some of the government funding off the top.
@Platonailedit: It’s lunacy.
Is Sarah Sanders going to be held accountable for using her government account and official position to complain about a restaurant? What about Donald Trump using his position to try to put the restaurant out of business?
Are there rules or not? Maxine Waters is the single politician who has to follow the two tiered standard of behavior?
They’re not promoting civility. They’re discrediting the whole idea by applying it inequitably and (also) stupidly.
Lying to people is disrespectful. When Trump or Sanders or Kelly or Sessions lie to people, they are disrespecting those people. Tricking them. Making fools out of them. And they do it every day.
@J R in WV:
I’m guessing Mueller has the phones and computers that were at the other end of some of the communications, and just wants to confirm MAC numbers and things like that from Prince’s. So it doesn’t matter much if Prince has scrubbed his devices.
@Kay: trump encourages his supporters to attack protestors at his rallies, but Chuck Schumer “strongly disagrees with harassing people who don’t agree with you” in a restaurant.
This isn’t about disagreements Chuck. This is about blatant fascism and you need to grow some balls.
I actually wondered about this, whether the “condemnation exercise” would reappear now that Trump has violated every single norm.
I have my answer! It will be applied, but only to members of the public and Maxine Waters.
This is worse. They actually managed to go from “no standards” to “standards, but for everyone but the President and the people who work for the president”. They made it worse. Now in addition to being uncivil it’s also horribly unfair.
My Happy Daily Uplift often comes from Lin-Manuel Miranda’s tweets. Here’s last night’s good night tweet
It’s kind of nice for Maxine Waters in a way. They’ve set this up so there’s two tiers- the public and Maxine Waters (higher expectations for behavior) and then all other “senior government officials” (lower expectations for behavior)
She’s with us! She’s in our category! She’ll probably be more popular now, not less.
FWIW, you’ve just nullified Michelle Obama’s “Go High” principle.
I have to leave for work so I can’t continue the discussion, but I’m not sold on this public shaming. I’ll stick to my one-on-one humiliation. I agree that it’s no different from that crapcake baker, but that was also wrong.
J R in WV
Except that it would be illegal for him to have destroyed evidence, or to be falsely claiming that the devices he turned over at the real ones if they’re not.
And my Nym is gone… It was working for me while everyone else was going south, and now it’s broken for me. Darn it.
I also follow him. He is relentlessly cheerful.
I saw the most hilarious bumper sticker yesterday. It said “MUELLER 2020”
@OzarkHillbilly: Chuck also said
I disagree because going high has not worked out in the past, but he did call the pres.
For the civility police
Prince, America’s most famous
private military contractormercenary,
Keep on telling it, Kay.
He is pretty positive. Except when it comes to Dolt45 and Puerto Rico.
@Kay: She is certainly more popular with me. Also this:
via commentator<a href="@teve tory: “> teve tory at OTB.
I saw this in the primaries as well. Trump pulls everyone down into the gutter. In the gutter he is King.
That was beautiful ?
Maxine Waters brought receipts ??
Good morning AL. In general let me say:
There is something to said for the wisdom of cutting off your nose to spite your face, and whether that applies to the current situation and you personally I’ll leave to y’all, because I can’t tell you how to respond to things such as Sanders and Trump puke up on a daily basis.
But I refuse to be shaped in thoughts words or deeds by low life’s. I will not become the ying to their yang. Their’s is not the change I want to see or become.
Having read many of the tut tutting voices of the ‘Very Serious People’ about public outbursts directed towards members of the administration only reinforces my opinion of them as either ossified relics of a bygone era, or the blind leading the blind. They would not have tolerated this behavior from the conservatives if they were not in fact sympathetic to their values, nor exposed their hypocrisy if they were not either blind or ossified.
But I will say this, anyone, anyone, who is outraged by the policies along the border has and ally in me, and I welcome you whole heartedly to outrage at inhumane behaviors by our government towards those whom, like their own fore-fathers, left home and country behind because it was not safe for them and their families to remain among their own countrymen, under penalty of death.
I refuse to be ruled by hatred, in my heart or theirs. It really is just that simple.
@Kay: Who is this amanda? Another courtier media minion? More than the white men, it’s the women in media that stick up for this sexist fugly thug that are annoying.
@rikyrah: Thanks, but J R in WV’s right, it’s not quite lining up right; I’ll fix it later today.
He better get used to denouncing. Now that they know he’ll do it they’ll be back! The Ritual Denouncing is a pundit staple.
Now, of course, it applies exclusively to Maxine Waters and the owners of one restaurant in Virginia, so now it’s completely nonsensical where it was merely boring before, but they’re sticking with it anyway.
They don’t know how to deal with Trump. They keep going back to the well for the methods they’ve always used. None of them fit this situation but you know, when all you have is a hammer..
They need to find a new approach. Everyone does. The old rules won’t work when the Trump Administration doesn’t follow them. That’s not fair and people won’t accept it.
@debbie: reasonable people (you and me of course) can reasonably disagree. The trump admin people are not reasonable.
@JPL: I figured he had, but as sins go… well, separating children from their parents in the name of ethnic cleansing, oops, my bad, I meant “controlling our borders”, isn’t even in the same ball park as causing indigestion.
I am all about treating people with the same respect as I would like to be treated with, however after I reach a point of being repeatedly treated like shit (lied to from day one) I no longer feel any desire to control my inner asshole.
Sir Alan Duncan, the foreign office minister, says the UK government is increasingly concerned about the health of Julian Assange, who has been in the Ecuadorian embassy evading arrest for almost six years. If Assange were to leave, he would be treated humanely, Duncan says.
MLK had these muthaphuckas ? nailed 50 years ago ?
Joy Reid visited one of the internment camps
Well, this “norm” they’ve come up with won’t work. No one will accept a norm that only binds less powerful people. It’s unfair and ludicrous.
They’re kind of bad at this. They might want to get out of the sociology business and go chase down some facts or something. No one turns to them for moral guidance. I wouldn’t, because they are such poor judges of character.
You literally petted that animal’s head in fucking teevee, jimmy. Now you are whining that it ate your face? Fuck off.
@rikyrah: Thank you.
More from Joy
If, He’s got everything tight enough to go for Prince, he’s got to be VERY close to the core conspirators, The only people left are the Mercers, Wayne LaPierre, Mitch McConnel, Paul Ryan, Devin Nunes and Rudy Giuliani. Maybe Scott Pruitt If he’s not just been running a massive Grift.
The President is attacking another private business, because they embarrassed him with a business decision.
The norm police might want to release Waters and arrest this high-ranking norm violater. He’s dangerous. Will anyone have the balls to call him out for this? He’s using his office to harm this company. That’s not okay.
Say it for the bleacher seats
@AlienRadio: The only people he’s got left is the entire GOP.
Every single Republican should be asked to denounce the President’s decision to attack Harley Davidson.
If they aren’t then this isn’t a “norm”, it’s a double standard, and no one should comply with it.
Fairness is important. It’s where credibility comes from.
Once again, my man David Brooks sets out one of those pieces you don’t have to read. All you need is the title.
One more piece of apologia in which Brooks draws an artificial distinction between your imaginary ideal conservative and Republicans, as though there is a difference between the two. This from a man who has spent the last three decades enabling teh crazy which has infected Republican brains like fucking rabies.
More leaked footage
@Kay: Enemies list.
Lady Macbeth’s hands are cleaner than are Prince’s.
Words I thought I would never type: The Missouri GOP shows the national party how to deal with an out of control cheif executive.
But her emails!!!
I noticed this the other day, that the standard the media seemed to be enforcing was that it was only OK to shit down, not up. The rule doesn’t seem to apply to Republicans though.
Case in point. The media is going on and on about how Maxine Water’s comments might somehow lead to a confrontation that escalates to violence. Seems sort of mum about the fact that Sanders’ and Trump’s comments have already led to vandalism and threats of violence against the Red Hen and several establishments with similar names.
This is the media and republicans telling Maxine she is too uppity. She needs to know her place.
It’s racist AF and chilling to see how the media get rolled every time when their implicit bias impels them to accept bullying and authoritarianism. They also expect to never be held accountable which is why pundits and experts who are always wrong are still on my tv and in the papers every GD day.
The other thing that is really causing me to want to smash things is the way the media and republicans keep focusing on the reactions to policies (another word that takes away agency) instead of the viciousness of the actions. Babies are ripped out of their mother’s arms while breastfeeding. That action is cruel. It is torture. It is a crime against humanity. These stolen children are then secreted away in the middle of the night to places unknown. It is not just some policy disagreement that can be debated civilly. The president suspended due process. That is a bedrock principle of democracy. The media and republicans are more upset about Huckabee Sanders being asked politely to leave a restaurant or Maxine correctly pointing out that we are each of us called to act to disrupt the authoritarian assault on human beings and our democracy than they are with a president asserting that he can unilaterally suspend the fifth amendment of our constitution. Seems like a fucking big deal that demands a response, no?
@But her emails!!!: You would think that calling the press the enemy of the people would be mentioned.
I dunno, Bill. It’s the combination of the plants/trees, combined with the Milky Way – that’s why it’s beautiful to me :)
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Off topic, but the next time a Wingnut whines about Trump officials being publicly shamed, point out they were just publicly servicing themselves over a cake shop refusing to make a cake for a gay couple. What goes around comes around.
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Nothing is off topic at the place where we might not remember your nym.
The Ancient Randonneur
Did you watch Maddow last night? Video of that little girl is still in my head.
Can’t be a movie. It will be a limited Netflix event, of about 12-15 episodes :)
SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE BLEACHER SEATS!!
I see a new political party is forming: SAM
Their main focus right now seems to be “civility”
No. It’s not Okay. But, will they say shyt?
Thank goodness Maxine Waters isn’t Corey Booker.
Maxine Waters is an Elder Black Woman. It’s her makeup to absolutely, positively not to give one single, solitary phuck.
Which is why, Kay, is correct. The ‘common man’ has seen this, and is fed up, and is taking steps – for himself – to fight on the ground. I have been gratified by social media lighting up the mushmouth muthaphuckas who thought they were gonna shame folks for cheering on those who have been going after the GOP. They have been told to sit down and STFU, cause nobody is playing with you. This HAS now morphed into good vs. evil, and the pundits seem to be the last to know, but nobody is playing with them.
@The Ancient Randonneur:
Maddow and LarryO.
The pain in that child – multiply by thousands…
and, they wonder why folks are done with civility.
The Ancient Randonneur
GOP stalking horse written all over it.
Greg Gianoforte never seemed to be much of a problem for the civility enforcers.
Come sit by me.
Side eyeing these muthaphuckas.
What Rachel Maddow exposed on her show provided proof that the Trump administration is running a migrant child kidnapping ring with no thought of reuniting families. https://t.co/VdhC56UvsT pic.twitter.com/86ZHtuF4JB
— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) June 26, 2018
@rikyrah: Good question.
They strike me as a bunch of republican centrists trying to rebrand themselves. I have a feeling they’re “pro business” and “concerned about the spiraling cost of entitlements” (I don’t see this on their website, but that’s the vibe I get)
@OzarkHillbilly: He’s already gone. Pretty easy for them to stand up to him now.
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Undoubtedly the universe is unfolding as it should. I think that’s an excellent shot, love the earth lighting juxtaposition with the alpha quadrant.
She is the leader of the resistance because she speaks the truth and claims her power.
@The Ancient Randonneur:
Rotary Club types too embarrassed by trump to call themselves republicans?
@Kay: The Post’s article on this is so on-point, they oughta call it a, um, compass point. Something REALLY sharp, anyway! ;)
Here you go, folks:
Trumpov Threatens Harley-Davidson With Taxes ‘Like Never Before’
(the Twitter posts are quite insane)
I was feeling bold, so I had to tweak my RWNJ dad and brother over all this:
Catherine Rampell is also compass-sharp this morning (I think she’s enjoying writing about the economic aspects of politics quite a bit, imho)
Factory Workers Aren’t Getting What Trumpov Promised
Mueller will put plenty of these clowns away for good, eventually, but it’s good to see Trumpov finding yet another way to be a drag on his and the GOP’s fortunes this fall.
BREAKING: Republicans helped set up Putin’s lobbying operation in America. You heard that correct. You’re not seeing things. This is real. Republicans helped set up Putin’s lobbying operation in America. Putin’s tentacles are all over the GOP. #TrumpRussia https://t.co/UhQbVlI4Vo
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) June 26, 2018
BREAKING: Trump isn’t reuniting some refugee families, unless they sign an agreement to be deported. They are kidnapping refugee kids and using them as ransom. Forcing their parents to agree to be deported and drop their case for asylum. Or they don’t get their kids back. Evil.
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) June 24, 2018
MEMORIZE THIS PHRASE:
“If we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance along with it.”
– Karl Popper, 1945 pic.twitter.com/AcbLNz8jIH
— Mikel Jollett (@Mikel_Jollett) June 26, 2018
‘spiraling cost of entitlements’? Fuck THAT. They can give me a call once they’ve repealed the GOP’s deficit-nuking tax giveaways to the rich and large corporations earlier this year.
Or when Trumpov told a rally crowd it was okay to beat up protestors – he’d pay their legal bills.
COME ON MEDIA, DO YOUR JOBS!
I saw last night on twitter (sorry I can’t remember where and don’t remember the exact wording), “One-sided civility is called servility, and it’s a step on the road to fascism.”
Good observations, third parties in America are distractions. There is no way Democrats, Republicans, or the media are going to let them get any traction.
The problem I have with any and all reports like this is the memory of the FBI’s counter intelligence programs, which sound very much like the KGB, and Russian trolling of the last election. I’m not saying I disbelieve the report, only that it sounds too much like what I want to hear. As to it’s veracity, never underestimate the stupidity of some Republicans.
How about starting with dog catcher or town council and working their way up?
@germy: There’s already Third Way? Who needs another chorus to the same song?
No, they want to start with Governor of New York State.
@germy: Yet another nolabels weed that pops out just before election season.
@rikyrah: RICO the GOP. Tick tock, motherfuckers.
The Ancient Randonneur
Yes and I am still asking:
Where are the girls?
Where are the toddlers?
Where are the infants?
Fuck civility. Publicly shaming and harassing government officials is not equivalent to putting children in concentration camps or screaming in the face of a private citizen entering a facility to receive her legal and necessary reproductive healthcare. It isn’t equivalent to the law enforcement arm of the government destroying black bodies, because–reasons. It isn’t equivalent to our LGBTQ+ friends, neighbors and family members fearing for their personal safety. Civility is for people who can choose to look the other way. For now.
Finally, stealing from Yarrow:
Tick, tock motherfuckers
LOL. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if these numbnutz did it.
@rikyrah: And what does “Sam” mean in Russian?
@?BillinGlendaleCA: your picture is sublime! Thanks for posting it.
Never gets old.
@The Ancient Randonneur:
“myself” (or “himself”)
@Calouste: screw amurka maliciously?
@zhena gogolia: “Myself” is quite appropriate.
First, I can’t like Maxine any more, I’m already at 100% like.
Second that tweet is perfect.
I get a possible reason why people would want Maxine to be quiet right now. Not saying I agree, I just can see why that might be better. OTOH fuck civility. They want civil they need to start. They work for us. We pay them. We have an entire enforcement arm of the government to insure that the plebes pay up. But bottom line politics is public employment. We are their employers. We have the right and duty to call them out when they are doing a shitty job. And boy are they doing a shitty job. Which figures, they are shitty people.
@Bruce K: Late to the thread, as usual but when I saw your post
I couldn’t help but think of the highlight scene when the Apollo 13 crew made contact after re-entry – they made it! All the people in mission control sprang to their feet and cheered but the stone cold Gene Kranz sank in his chair and wept.. I picture the same think happening when trump is convicted – the nation cheers while Robert Mueller weeps in relief.
NASA Director: This could be the worst disaster NASA’s ever experienced.
Gene Kranz: With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour.
Steve in the ATL
@Kay: written by someone else, though. NFW trump knows the word “hence.”
J R in WV
You think he’s already got “Bishop” Pence the unwary? ‘Cause getting rid of Trump is no good without getting rid of Pence. And I’m not sure he’s “after” Prince as opposed to looking for more nails for Trumpelstiltskin and the white house magats.
Also, copied from a good man on twitter:
Chuck Schumer, you need to know this!!!
my Nym is gone
J R in WV
It is beautiful, well shot, well composed, the Joshua Trees, the distant light from humanity, the very distant remote galaxy we live in, that we can never get much closer to than we are right now. Great philosophically, as well as artistically.
No one should think I was negative when I see something, as an artifact, in a photograph. Critical as in an opportunity to repair an unwanted artifact of post processing. Bill will fix that tiny line and it will be that much closer to perfect.