Someone get Rick Santelli on the fucking horn:
The U.S. Agriculture Department on Tuesday plans to announce a $12 billion package of emergency aid for farmers caught in the midst of President Trump’s escalating trade war, two people briefed on the plan said, the latest sign that growing tensions between the United States and other countries will not end soon.
You ask me, this is thousands of times worse than bailing people out with their mortgages (which never happened anyway because all the fucking money went to the banks- the greedy fuckers who caused the mess). They couldn’t pay their mortgages because they were sold predatory mortgages to cause the crisis and then lost their jobs because of the crisis.
This is just a bunch of douchebags who are getting EXACTLY what they voted for. This is a payoff before the midterms. I don’t want to be paying some farmers bills, do you Rick Rantelli?
Cheryl Rofer
I am feeling very impatient today. Trump is doing so much damage. We should all be in the streets protesting constantly.
zhena gogolia
How’s your heinie?
Yarrow
White welfare states = farm states.
Manyakitty
@Cheryl Rofer: There’s definitely a greater sense of urgency lately. Like the republicans are desperately trying to destroy as much as possible before they’re removed from power, kicking and screaming.
JPL
The farmers are getting bailed out. What about me? I am spending 1/3rd more to rebuild my wall and steps. We are talking about real money, so just f.k him. He wants to bail out wealthy agri companies, but leave the rest of us in the lurch. I hate him.
The Moar You Know
Family farmers don’t exist in numbers that even remotely matter anymore, so this, like the “mortgage bailout”, is just a huge bribe to agribusiness to keep them silent and in line until at least after the midterms.
I doubt 12 billion is anywhere near the amount they’re going to lose in this trade war, but I’d bet anything they’ll shut up and do what they’re told anyway.
Luthe
Bribery was good enough for Boss Tweed, so of course it’s good enough for the GOP.
Raoul
Trump’s poll numbers look like shit. Moar farm subsidies!
Quinnipiac: Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as
president?
Aprv – DisAprv – lol, whut
7/24/18 | 38 – 58 – 4
7/03/18 | 40 – 55 – 4
6/20/18 | 43 – 52 – 6
6/06/18 | 40 – 51 – 8
4/25/18 | 39 – 54 – 7
4/10/18 | 41 – 52 – 7
3/21/18 | 40 – 53 – 7
3/07/18 | 38 – 56 – 6
2/21/18 | 37 – 58 – 5
2/07/18 | 40 – 55 – 5
1/25/18 | 36 – 58 – 6
1/17/18 | 38 – 57 – 5
1/10/18 | 36 – 59 – 5
Down 5 on the Approval since late June (aka Before Helsinki). Doin’ great!
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer:
People still need to pay rent and eat.
kimp
Exactly. That nail factory in SE Missouri that is being hurt by policies instituted by this President? They were bought out in 2012 by a Mexican firm. The company just took out a full page ad in the hometown newspaper , pleading for Trump to exempt them, as they overwhelmingly support him and his efforts. I just marvel at the disconnect.
Doug R
Yes, but helping farmers, especially corporate farms strikes the right tone* don’t you see?
*skin tone
TenguPhule
Reposted from the previous thread.
This is how Trump is getting around Congress.
$30 billion credit line. He’s tapping $12 billion of that just for this year.
Next year will be worse. And that’s assuming no actual natural disasters happen to agriculture in the meantime.
Raoul
@John: Rick Rantelli is a morally bankrupt bag of salted prunes. I’m sure he couldn’t care less about first principles or free markets.
Doug R
@Raoul: Looks like his performance at NATO is affecting his numbers.
Wait until Helsinki sinks in
Corner Stone
Hmmm…wonder how that happened?
Luthe
@TenguPhule:
Joseph Heller was a motherfucking prophet.
Corner Stone
Personally, the price of pork has yet to decrease around this locale. I don’t eat a lot of pork but with the price of chicken being sky freakin high I was looking forward to some pork stir fry.
ETA, fresh Olathe corn is on a good sale but that’s seasonal, not really a byproduct of outside market actions. Milk was recently at a multi year low but has ticked up slightly. Still reasonable, IMO.
Raoul
@Doug R: When 43 – 52 is your high water mark, you have no where to go but [checks notes] … uhhh, down!
mad citizen
Fuck these people. Start a trade war and bail out the losers, WTF? Totally bass ackwards. You’re supposed to engage in beneficial worldwide trade, and provide retraining or compensation for those who lost due to the increased trade that benefitted the nation as a whole.
Cheryl Rofer
This is amazing, and perhaps encouraging. Now we have to see if they actually do something.
TenguPhule
@Corner Stone:
2.5 Billion pounds of pork, beef and chicken currently in domestic cold storage.
Yes, you read that right. Billion with a B. The suppliers are trying to ride this out in hope that it will be a short victorious trade war.
Corner Stone
@Raoul:
I really enjoyed seeing Rick on straight news segments being consulted as if he were some kind of svengali of wisdom.
mad citizen
Over at CNN: This is very funny: “Ivanka Trump has decided to shut down her company after deciding to pursue a career in public policy instead of returning to her fashion company.”
TenguPhule
@mad citizen:
But this doesn’t make Trump any money.
lollipopguild
@mad citizen: You are very funny!
Brachiator
@TenguPhule:
So, Trump is using a program created by Democrats to help people who refused to vote for Democrats?
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer:
Narrator: A strongly worded non-binding bill of protest was delivered to Donald Trump. He wiped his ass with it.
TenguPhule
@Brachiator: Yep. The irony, it is sickening.
MattF
Somewhat OT. This Slate article highlights a Trump tweet whose dishonesty and flat-out weirdness is impossible to exaggerate.
lollipopguild
@Cheryl Rofer: Gee, do you think that at least a few of the members of the GOP are finally getting a clue?
Corner Stone
@Cheryl Rofer:
One wonders what other “areas” those might be that face a cut? I am pondering it deeply but just have no idea what they might possibly be.
NotMax
The next question is how will they screw this up?
Funneled only through banks which have a history of throwing money exclusively Republican PACS?
Handling and processing fees which eat up the bulk of anything which finally trickles down?
Require recipients first sign a loyalty oath to dear leader?
From your link:
New Deal! New Deal! Socialism! ‘Principled’ Republicans in Congress will, of course, quash this as soon as possible.
In a pig’s eye.
As to the CCC,
Cheryl Rofer
jl
I wouldn’t mind if Cole checked into whether there was a backyard mater program he could qualify for.
If he’d put in some pawpaws like he promised he would, he could tap into the Pawpaw Emergency Stabilization Fund.
ellie
@Brachiator: Yes. I have no words.
NotMax
@jl
“Better pawpaw than war-war.”
– Winston Churchill’s chef
:)
Gin & Tonic
@Cheryl Rofer: These fucking morons are Senators. US Senators. All they have to do is grow a fucking pair of balls and exercise their Constitutional responsibility. It could not be clearer:
All they have to do is say “tariffs? no fucking way.”
Idiots.
jl
@NotMax: John G Cole, is ‘heartland’ if anyone is. If he can get some of that agricultural stabilization money, I trust him to plow it back into the economy.
Did he plant any soybeans next to the snaps?
Edit: Cole, go out an check what you planted. I’ll look for the garden pix and status report later.
Corner Stone
@NotMax:
Some combo of this is my best guess. They will pay people a fortune to vet potential recipients, then funnel the money through crony owned (read Russian mobbed up) to get their cut, and end up lining the pockets of a few R PAC lobbyist types.
Yutsano
@NotMax:
WHAT COULD POSSIBY GO WRONG???
Jeffro
@Cheryl Rofer: These tariffs – their cost to actual American companies, that is – are going to mount up quickly. In addition to the hit on almighty profits, they could definitely help get a recession going. GOP’s in charge of all three branches of government. Not hard to figure out why Johnson and Thune are upset.
rikyrah
@kimp:
What disconnect. That’s the epitome of who they are. They voted for him because they thought that he would hurt THOSE people.
Going to take away healthcare?
Sure….
But but but…I thought that you were going to take THEIR healthcare away….
That is who they are.
Raven
Hmm, Houston looks like Atlanta with no hills!
momus
Attention, Attention Russian Mob and 1%ers — Wealth Transfer Opportunity Alert!! Attention, Attention!!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Raven: You must have done something very, very bad to have to go to Houston.
JPL
@Cheryl Rofer: This is when Paul Ryan says it’s unfortunate.
NotMax
@momus
“We are at Griftcon 2!”
smintheus
@Raoul:
I wanna steal that.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: thanks for beautiful pix from Huntington yesterday.
You could go to Houston and take some pix and make it pretty!
Raven
@?BillinGlendaleCA: all expense paid! I didn’t get in the joint with the Texas shaped pol though!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: Has your delivery arrived?
germy
NotMax
When it comes to the Dolt 45 supporters who farm, “reap what you sow” cold not be any more applicable.
All those evangelical and fundamentalist voices will be on the stump urging them to refuse participation in 3 – 2 – never.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: I’ve done my time in Houston, I don’t think it’s possible to make it pretty.
Thank you for your kind words, here’s another pic from The Huntington.
NotMax
@BillinGlendaleCA
Not yet. But then, not even 10 in the morning yet.
HeleninEire
I lost my shit when I saw this. I have no more can’t evens. Also saw someone else say on Twitter “I don’t have enough middle fingers.” Yeah that’s me.
Applications are still open, but oh holy hell the price is going up. ;)
Leto
While we’re linking to outrage pieces, and also because of the conversation poster Jeffro posted about him and his father two threads down:
Alex Jones compares himself to Woodward, Bernstein in bid to dismiss Sandy Hook lawsuit
He’s now claiming to be a “journalist”.
Raven
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I want to see a Slab!
TenguPhule
Corner Stone
@?BillinGlendaleCA: We have a few highlights – very good museums and a pretty darn nice zoo. NASA is a little bit of a drive but worth it if that’s your thing. Minute Maid Park is a beautiful place to catch a ballgame, never had a bad seat there.
But if you’re going to spend much time here you’d better like to eat and drink adult beverages because that’s really the backbone of the whole place.
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
What horrible thing did you do to be sent there?
matt
There’s always money in the banana stand to pay members of the Rent Seekers Party.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule: Heh, I see what you did there.
TenguPhule
@Corner Stone:
I like a hard drink as much as the next person, but that might be a little too stiff for me.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Corner Stone: Guess I’m outa luck, I no longer consume adult beverages.
Mnemosyne
@Raoul:
Funny, some infrequent commenters were telling me just a few weeks ago that Trump’s numbers were on an inexorable upward trend.
What a difference a month makes.
Jeffro
@Raven: They both have the same charm about them, which is to say, none.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule: I used to work for Satan.
smintheus
@Luthe:
Brutal reality checks of right-wing BSers used to be common in American literature in the early to mid 20th century. I forget which novel or story of Ring Lardner (?) began by mentioning that the protagonist’s father, an up-by-ones-bootstraps midwestern leather magnate who grew rich on government contracts during WWI, died of a heart attack when the armistice was announced, allowing the subject of the story to live a life of leisure.
Doug R
You know, if minimum wage were a LIVING WAGE, everyone could afford to pay slightly more for food and farmers could get fair prices.
You know, like a FREE market.
Plus tax revenues would go up without raising rates.
NotMax
@Corner Stone
Wondering how raven will look wearing a grossly oversized belt buckle.
;)
TenguPhule
@Doug R:
That’s crazy talk, everyone knows tax revenues rise when you cut the rates! //s
Jeffro
@germy: That’s an excellent question. How about it, national media types? Can y’all throw that one at the Possum Queen and see what she says?
Corner Stone
@TenguPhule: If your Bloody Maria at brunch isn’t thick enough to chew through, then the barkeep is doing it wrong.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Doug R: Living wage? What are you, some kind of commie?
smintheus
@jl: I did plant pawpaws. Where’s that money at?
Mnemosyne
Remember, Trump proposed cutting children’s healthcare (CHIP) by $7 billion because we couldn’t afford it as a country. But apparently we have $12 billion just laying around to send to corporate farmers.
TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
She’s still playing zombie.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne: Of course we do, priorities!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule: That’s what possums do.
Jeffro
@Leto: Eh, Pops is a Fox fanboi but he’s no Alex Jones fan. I know there is some overlap in those sets, he’s just not in that part of the diagram.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
Its a credit line of $30 billion. Or as Trump put it about his actions affecting the stock market “Its the bank’s money!”
Please note he’s pissing away almost half of it in the first year and this trade war is not going to be short.
The Dangerman
@Cheryl Rofer:
Let’s see, Puerto Rico or Houston? Lessee, which one …
Doug R
@Cheryl Rofer: Even when Goldberg makes sense he screws up something.
IT’S not IT IS, it is the possessive form of it which is ITS.
Mary G
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Those are all gorgeous. New camera is good.
Corner Stone
@?BillinGlendaleCA: There are a few dry counties still, mostly in the Panhandle I believe. But they lack the delightful je ne sais quoi of Houston.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
One of my Denver regrets is that I did not get to try a shaketini from this place. Several of those listed would have made me happy, but there was no time. ?
A Ghost To Most
Moral hazard, motherfuckers. Eat your soybeans.
rikyrah
@Corner Stone:
I’m waiting for my cheap bacon. I keep on hearing about the glut of pork..where’s my cheap bacon?!?!?
The Dangerman
@Gin & Tonic:
I see (thankfully, DON’T SEE) the problem.
Eunuchs all the way down.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne: Looks delightful.
TenguPhule
@rikyrah:
2.5 billion pounds of meat in US cold storage. The meatpackers are trying to ride this out, assuming it will be a short victorious trade war.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Houston has bayous, of a special kind. When I was there they were ‘in the air’ as it were. You have a pic of the Houston bayous?
And thanks for another nice pic. I love those gardens, nice to see them again.
rikyrah
@Cheryl Rofer:
They aren’t going to do shyt.
jl
@smintheus: pawpaws are our biggest and bestest native tree fruit.. Trumpsters must have some sweet MAGA moolah for them someplace. America first! Just gotta look.
Leto
@Jeffro: Well that part’s good to hear. Though I think there’s more overlap than we care to admit. Also during his divorce proceedings, he claimed he was an “entertainer”. Now he’s a “journalist”. I hope the parents take it all.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mary G: The new camera helps, but it’s the same sensor as the old one. I’m just getting better at taking the pictures and processing them. I did learn one important thing, expose so the highlights are never blown even if it leaves the rest of the frame underexposed.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Mnemosyne:
TBF, that’s just one polling outfit. An aggregate of multiple polling outfits over a stretch of time is the most accurate.
Mnemosyne
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
If you watched teevee, I would alert you that a large number of scenes of the first 2 seasons of “The Good Place” are filmed at the Huntington. It’s one of the stand-ins for (ersatz) Heaven.
Millard Filmore
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
In this capitalist paradise, it is the duty of you serfs to work hard and make me rich.
Leto
@rikyrah: My waist does not need cheap bacon. Not that I’m going to say no, but just saying…
Ruckus
Did anyone here expect anything different from the shitgibbn? Like anything that wasn’t stupid reactions to stupid shit he said, five minutes after something else stupid he said. And so on..,.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Good news about the Chinese Garden, it’s going be getting bigger soon. From the email I get from The Huntington, they’re pretty close to their fundraising goal to finish phase 2 of the garden.
ETA: I never took a camera to Houston; Alaska, now that’s a different story.
schrodingers_cat
@Cheryl Rofer: Is Sherrod Brown still supporting the tariffs? What about the tribune of the masses from Vt. Many leftier than thous, love tariffs and trade wars and are in agreement with the Doll Hair Combover.
TenguPhule
Whelp, Heller is working out so well for the USA. //S
9th Circuit Court of Appeals rules 2nd Amendment allows right to carry guns in public
Mnemosyne
Also, anyone NOT watching “The Good Place” needs to get caught up on it before Season 3 starts. It is a fucking amazing show that manages to make ethical philosophy entertaining. Plus there’s eye candy and great acting to everyone’s taste.
NotMax
FYI, from Jeff Sessions. DOJ gonna police school curricula?
The alliteration is more than evocative of one S. Agnew’s speech writers.
Cheryl Rofer
@schrodingers_cat: All I know is what I see on the twitters. Haven’t seen anything from them yet.
TenguPhule
@NotMax:
Also known as Young Republicans.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne: I only watch the 11pm news and Bruin Football and Basketball anymore, but The Huntington would be a good substitute for heaven.
sherparick
@Raoul: In June he got is Summit with Kim bump. He has been grinding it down ever since. This bailout of the agribusiness farmers is such a joke. Most of these folks are millionaires as farm policy and concentration have eliminated most family farms in regard to wheat, soybean, corn, and cotton farming and this is where almost all the subsidies go. I expect with the nut jobs in the Freedom caucus, Ryan and Trump are going to need Democratic Votes. They can add an extra 6 Billion for SNAP and make it linked with steel to the Farm Bill for the next five years and in the Senate this gets to be called the Heitkamp-McCaskill-Donnelly Bill.
NotMax
Jackal kibble presented sans further comment.
TenguPhule
MOFGA.
MOFO Go Away.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule: That’ll be overruled if it goes to the full 9th Circuit.
TenguPhule
@NotMax:
Says it all, doesn’t it?
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Probably, and then on to the Supreme Court.
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne:
Farmers work hard. Children are freeloaders who deserve nothing. Or something equally dumbass.
Jeffro
So I was thinking more about the midterms, and about Trumpov’s fantasy tweet that Russia is pulling for Democrats to win because he’s been so tough on Russia…
…I think it would be a pretty good idea for our Helsinki translator to weigh in, and soon, on whether or not Trumpov got that idea from Putin.
For him to float the idea, now that there’s such a huge public perception of/so much evidence out there regarding Russia as an election-meddler for him and the GOP, it’s more evil genius than I think he’s capable of on his own.
“Yeah, okay, they meddle: and LOOK! They’re doing it to help those traitorous Dems!”
It helps Trumpov throw off chaff and benefits him in multiple ways
– it turns election meddling into a “both sides” issue, meaning that with the public (not Mueller) it has the potential to defuse dimwits’ minds about who is really guilty here
– it makes anything a new House Democratic majority tries to do look like partisan warfare instead of justice
– it keeps the fighting going strong and prevents any unity in our country
Remember how that last month before the election (pre-Comey interference, anyway) it was looking like Hillz was going to sweep things, and Trumpov started only giving speeches with his hat on, pulled low over his eyes? When all he would talk about was the election being rigged and illegitimate (unless, of course, he was elected)? He’s going to do that again.
Nothing is working for him (not the tax cut, not North Korea, not Iran, not Helsinki, not the tariffs, not even the stupid “MS-13!!!!GAHH!!!” stuff) and so now it’s going to be “Dems are the real traitors”, and when they win, it’ll be “Russian COLLUSION by Democrats!!”
I just hope our Dem campaigns know how to avoid being set up with offers of data and dirt on their GOP opponents.
trollhattan
@TenguPhule:
Oh crap.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
They only want moldable school kids, that don’t know better than to work for far less than a living wage, doing manual farm labor in the cornfields, that no one needs.
They thought that the best and the brightest was a cautionary tale and the want no part of it.
TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
For better or worse, our people run ethical campaigns.
schrodingers_cat
@Cheryl Rofer: Senator Brown blocked R efforts to gut the tariffs. He supports them.
From his official website
.
hueyplong
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I agree this sounds like an unlucky panel draw, but the Supreme Court is likely to be bad, too, isn’t it?
Gin & Tonic
@Jeffro: 1) she was an interpreter, not a translator and 2) she will never talk – that’s not their role.
NotMax
@TenguPhule
P.U.
Projection University.
;)
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat: We’re not allowed to badmouth any D Senator until we no longer need their vote. //
TenguPhule
@Gin & Tonic:
I thought an interpreter’s entire job was talking?
schrodingers_cat
@TenguPhule: I am quoting his official website, how is that bad mouthing?
BS of Vt has a more nuanced position, he likes tariffs but not the ones proposed by the man in the WH.
Jeffro
@TenguPhule: Thanks, I’m aware of that. It’ll only take one campaign taking one meeting – not even accepting dirt or data, just the meeting – and we’ll be in False Equivalence Hell forever and a day.
Gin & Tonic
@TenguPhule: Don’t be an asshole; you know what I was saying.
NotMax
@Ruckus
Embracing the ivory, repulsed by the tower.
Gravenstone
@Cheryl Rofer: Yet we know you won’t do a fucking thing, Ronnie boy, because WI farmers will be among the beneficiaries of this largesse.
Litlebritdifrnt
Too lazy to look right now but a poll came out today that said 51% of voters believe Putin has something on Twitler. Tick Tock.
Brachiator
@Jeffro:
Is the second Trump-Putin summit supposed to happen before or after the mid-term elections?
Simple Question. President Trump, you said that Putin told you that Russia did not interfere with the presidential election. But you say that they are trying to interfere with the mid-term elections. Did you tell the Russians to stop? If they don’t stop, will the consequences be as strong as those you threatened Iran with?
Simple Question 2. To Putin. President Putin, did President Trump tell you to stop meddling in the midterm elections? Are you going to stop?
TenguPhule
@Gin & Tonic: Yes, but she’s also the only reliable witness to what actually happened. This is what happens when Trump is allowed to circumvent the mandatory record keeping of actual presidents.
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
Facts have an inherently liberal bias! //
TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
Did you see Trump’s tweets this morning? We’re already there. Evidence not necessary.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@hueyplong: Depends on Kennedy’s replacement.
Cheryl Rofer
@Brachiator:
Putin says no.
hueyplong
You are clinging to more hope on that point than am I.
Turning the entire nation into Deadwood is a long term goal of theirs.
Jeffro
@Gin & Tonic: There is this word I am thinking of, “pedantic”, that just seems so appropriate for both points #1 and #2 there…
Let me a little more clear: I think the president* of the United States is, and increasingly will be, promoting the idea that the Democratic Party is the one working with a hostile foreign power to win illegitimately this November. I think he may have gotten that “plan” from the very same hostile foreign power. That’s beyond alarming. Whether the trans…excuse me, interpreter…talks or not is beside the point. I’ll take a Finnish recording. I’ll take some Five Eyes SIGINT magic. Whatever. I want to know what they said and I want to know where he got the idea from and I want people knocking it down, HARD, or we really will be at a grave point in this country.
Gin & Tonic
@Jeffro: Guilty as charged.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Mnemosyne:
I watched a bit of the Good Place and I have to say I have a serious problem with the whole system in that show. I’m probably supposed to be opposed to it, but what gives whoever or whatever (God) the right to morally judge and punish people? Who is God accountable to? Where’s the due process?
Enlightenment ideals like popular sovereignty and due process don’t tend to mesh very well with omnipotent gods. This is my atheistic humanism speaking.
TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
I think you’re looking at “point of no return”. We’ve been in a grave since January 2017.
lynn
Trump is just bailing out Tyson…corp food business. The people that move the meat/soy to ports will not get a bailout. The truckers, barge operators, rail workers, and the longshoremen (the real good paying jobs) are going to get laid off.
Jeffro
@Brachiator:
The Hill is reporting that Putin said he’s “not ready” to accept Trumpov’s invitation. So for now…no one know if or when.
Hill story on Trumpov’s “Dems are the real Russia colluders!” is here.
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
That’s Satan talking, friend! //s
Mary G
Welp, buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride:
ETA: I really like Senator Schatz at least for his Twitter game:
TenguPhule
@lynn:
Coincidently, many of them are traditionally union members.
jl
@Cheryl Rofer: Putin smart enough to know a scheduled appearance in the new provinces would not help his side in the midterms?
Or he doesn’t want to think about the Trump/Putin baby blimps that will be following him around? Probably not that, Putin doesn’t care about that kind of nonsense, at least over here.
gvg
This administration is too incompetent to administer anything this big. they are going to screw up and it will also turn out to be cheap skated to nonsense. Promise what they can’t deliver. Farmers are going to get a close up view of nonsense while their income burns.
I think democrats should also run on the slogan “competence does matter” and “If they say Government doesn’t work, don’t elect them”
Major Major Major Major
This is worse than TARP, not even for any moral reason, but just because it’s a completely unnecessary handout to butthurt idiots.
Uncle Cosmo
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I spent a month in Houston one night, in August 1970.
In the bus to the airport the next afternoon I remember noticing how the interstate was rising up gradually on concrete pilings, until finally there was enough ground clearance for the lower part of a cloverleaf interchange. I had never seen land that flat, & abruptly I thought, Now I know why they call it topographic relief.
zhena gogolia
@Mary G:
You’ve given me an opportunity to air my latest brilliant insight: When Bette Davis in All About Eve (1950) says, “Fasten your seatbelts. It’s going to be a bumpy night,” she must be talking about AIRPLANE seatbelts. Cars didn’t have seatbelts yet, for the most part. When this hit me, it just turned my world around.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mary G:
So I guess we’ll have to wait for confirmation then.
TenguPhule
Trump lawyer uses government action on abortion to raise cash for own group
Its seems nothing can get a Trump lawyer disbarred. Absolutely nothing.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
And it taps funds meant for an actual emergency.
Yarrow
@gvg:
Yes! It’s about time we got past the whole “the nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government, and I’m here to help'” bullshit.
trollhattan
@Major Major Major Major: .
It’s like paying Enron to build and operate power plants in response to crashing the western power grid. Nice work if you can get it.
TenguPhule
@Yarrow:
trollhattan
@TenguPhule:
Ooh, selling baby parts. That sounds bad.
lgerard
Spicer book tour stop canceled at Massachusetts store due to ‘political climate’
There goes my plans for Saturday
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: So do you just, like, not consume any of the many fine Abrahamic-religion-inflected fantasy stories?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Major Major Major Major: well, I always thought Aslan was kind of smug
ETA: And whoever created the Good Place owes Albert Brooks some kind of royalty for Defending Your Life, but I think there are some hat tips in TGP
trnc
So, 12 billion bribe for the base, but we couldn’t afford more than 200 mil for highways, bridges etc?
Infrastructure week is so confusing.
tobie
@Mary G: Quality snark from Schatz! I didn’t know he had it in him. Good on him.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@tobie: Schatz is really good on twitter. I’m guessing he’s one of those many, many camera-shy senators who doesn’t get on TV even though they ask all the time.
Major Major Major Major
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: “Aslan”
Well, there’s plenty of abrahamic fantasy that *isn’t* thinly veiled Jesus fanfic too.
AnonPhenom
@lynn:
If we all weren’t the savvy cynics we are in regards to general strikes, I would say this situation is developing in a way that would make a (general) consumer strike very effective.
Ah fuhgeddaboudit, who would wanna go vegan for a few weeks anyway, amirite? …too much like work.
hueyplong
The only person I’ve ever heard of with baby parts in his house is a Republican (Rick Santorum).
smintheus
@Mary G: It’s interesting that Trump’s overall approval in the latest Q-poll (38%) is below the 40% of crazies who still are saying that the Mueller investigation is a “witch hunt”.
Hobbes83
Welfare for white people; how apropos. They vote for a person who fucked them over for no goddamn reason, and then they receive a bribe for it. You really can’t make this shit up.
trollhattan
@hueyplong:
Yeah, literally. I wonder how badly scarred that Santorum brood is after all the parental maltreatment. Got yer next generation of WH press officers at the ready.
TenguPhule
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
He’s a Democratic Senator from Hawaii. They don’t ask him on.
Barbara
@smintheus: There may be those who support the idea of a witch hunt.
TenguPhule
@AnonPhenom:
I’m sure a boycott on food would work out well. //s
hueyplong
My reaction to the flyover freeload is a little different. I’m mildly surprised at how quickly they have hit the panic button so early in the Great Triumphant Trumpian Tariff War. They must think fecal matter is about to hit the fan in a big way.
Kind of fun watching these rugged individualists squeal like the pigs they are.
catclub
@Cheryl Rofer:
But Ron Johnson will still vote for all of trump’s nominees. Almost serious enough to do something against trump.
Raven
Nice downtown grocery/buffet, the Phonecian!
trollhattan
@TenguPhule:
More like senator from KENYA.
TenguPhule
@hueyplong:
It already has.
Soybean prices are down 10% for the year. That pretty much wipes out the profit margin for the farmers.
This goes into next year or gets worse, farmers start going bankrupt.
NotMax
If it turns out that Kushner owns interests in any affected farming operation, I may end up splitting the desk with my forehead.
AnonPhenom
@TenguPhule:
I hear you could afford to lose a few pounds.
TenguPhule
@NotMax:
Use Kushner’s head instead.
Yarrow
@Raven: Told you to check it out! Fun to wander around.
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax: Better than your forehead with your desk.
TenguPhule
@AnonPhenom: So how do your people stay alive on your planet, friend? Photosynthesis?
catclub
@TenguPhule:
When you apply tariiffs on Canadian steel and claim it is for national security, bogus excuses are already in the mix. Anything that hurts Trump is a national emergency.
Raven
@Yarrow: we have a special gig at 8 th wonder tonight. I don’t drink but I may go. Lots of homeless folks by Irma’s. What about Cajun down here?
smintheus
@Yarrow:
Or just go with the nine most terrifying words in the English language:
Jager
Cut the crap about Corporate farming, the vast majority of farms in the US are Family owned. There are certain crops, like strawberries produced by actual corporate farm operations owned by big diversified companies. The real change came because family farms have gotten much, much bigger. In my family the original farm was a smaller medium sized operation (owned free and clear) until the mid 70’s. Today the owned acreage consists of land that at one time was 8 other family farms. By my math that means 8 farm families moved to town. In addition to the owned land, the family rents another 1,000 acres from people who have no desire to farm it themselves. It’s a big operation and it’s a family corporation, with millions invested in machinery, etc. The days of the hayseed in bib overalls are long gone and have been for decades. In California if you drive up I-5 you see huge ag operations, building after building, guess what they are family farms. My MAGA relatives are going to get an ass kicking from the tariffs and it pisses me off they may get a bailout, but s big as they are, it’s still a family owned farm. Maybe they’ll only go to Vegas once this winter and blow off the Hawaii trip, my baby Aunt may have to drive her Escalade for another year.
debit
@TenguPhule: Coprophagia is my guess.
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
Hard head, soft heart, mushy knees, tender feet.
:)
Major Major Major Major
eta nm
TenguPhule
@Jager:
on the bright side, the bailout is probably not going to be even remotely close to what they could have earned if they hadn’t decided to fuck themselves out of their biggest markets.
And the bailout will be temporary, the lost international markets will be till the day they die and probably longer.
Mary G
Love this letter of resignation. Favorite phrase is “utter depravity,”
Dorothy A. Winsor
@NotMax: I wonder if this is connected somehow to one of the legal investigations against her. Maybe she knows there are problems and is trying to duck out of the situation.
J R in WV
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
You caught the “golden hour” smack dab at its most golden, didn’t you!??!!!
Wonder color because of the wonderful evening light! Keep up the good work!
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Major Major Major Major:
Well, I did enjoy Narnia when I was younger. I read the final book later on and I was pissed that Lewis made it obvious that Aslan was the Christian God instead of leaving it ambiguous.
I also enjoy stories that bash the concept of omnipotence and portray the ugly consequences that can result from it, like It’s a Good Life.
The bottom line is I don’t trust anything that’s power can’t be checked. Omnipotence and omnibenevolence at the same time is a paradox IMHO.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Cheryl Rofer:
They’ll slash heating assistance, EBT, education and science grants to make up for the payment to Our Heroic White Farmers.
Brachiator
@Jeffro:
Shorter: This is just a typical Trump Reversal.
This attempt at misdirection is a thing that Trump does. He takes something he has done, or is guilty of, and flips it.
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Have you read the Sandman Slim books? You might enjoy them.
ETA unless your threshold really is “abrahamic god exists” then you *probably wouldn’t* enjoy satanic adventures
J R in WV
@rikyrah:
The problem with bacon is that when fresh ripe tomatoes come in, demand for bacon rises a great deal. On the commodity markets they call that the BLT effect, and it’s a real thing in Chicago. So not until late fall…
trollhattan
Cue up “Go Your Own Way”
TenguPhule
All of those veterans should immediately have their honorable discharges retroactively revoked into dishonorable discharges for turning into Nazis and betraying their oaths.
Mary G
I’m calling it – The Texas Tribune will get all the Pulitzers for their coverage of the immigrant children scandal:
and:
This is the textbook definition of cruel and unusual punishment and Secretary Nielsen is going to hell if there is one. The LA Times is doing pretty good with local stories, but the major papers don’t seem much concerned as we await the Thursday deadline.
Brachiator
@Jager:
A recent 538 article maybe also sheds some light on this issue: Big Farms Are Getting Bigger And Most Small Farms Aren’t Really Farms At All
rikyrah
Uh huh ? ?
@roxydavis99: I’d like to point out that Bernie isn’t a Dem and his campaign manager, Ted Devine, worked with Manafort and Russian/Ukrai… https://twitter.com/roxydavis99/status/1021779936372305925?s=17
TenguPhule
These assholes keep lying under oath without any consequences.
Its all going to come apart at the seams.
Major Major Major Major
@J R in WV: Fun fact: McDonald’s brings the McRib back when the price of pork, relative to beef, drops to a certain point.
Chyron HR
@Brachiator:
HE SAID CUT THE CRAP BRAH
TenguPhule
@Mary G:
I vaguely remember what normal looked like back in 2016.
Seems like a lifetime ago now.
Mary G
More craziness to come tomorrow a.m.:
ETA: The VFW stands up for what’s right:
Jeffro
@Brachiator:
Ok, thanks. I’m aware of the projection and the Rove-ian (Goebbels-ian?) aspect here. I’m saying this is different because of both the magnitude of his/his campaign’s crimes against this country, and the incredible importance of us winning the House at a minimum this November. Also possibly avoiding some serious civil strife if and when he incites his base against “traitor” Dems.
TenguPhule
@Mary G:
Biggest Turnout! Best Turnout! Believe you me! //
Brachiator
@Mary G:
Sigh. I remember when the LA Times was considered to be a major paper.
That aside, you’re right, there is good coverage on this issue. And the letter of resignation you noted earlier is stunning. There are people who will not be part of this administration of cruelty.
California Stars
Are there actual economists recommending this bailout with some kind of logical/historical precedent, or is this just trump spitballing ideas to try to bribe his base? Has anyone seen pundit offering a cogent theory about why this is a good idea, beyond the obvious/dumb “they’ll be thanking us once we WIN the trade war” AKA “we’ll give ’em some money and hope they keep voting for us”?
Dan B
@schrodingers_cat: WTF? Brown in favor of tariffs? Is there some cockamamie plan to destroy the economy to make the GOP look bad? It diesnt sound like there could be anything else bad in an amendment, or was there?
Shell
Oh, c’mon! He made it obvious in the very first book!
JPL
@Jager: @Brachiator: The family farm that I purchase from is thriving, because there chickens are truly cage free, and all their vegetables are organic. They sell eggs and produce to local restaurants. Before that they could not compete with the corporate farmers. There are still family owned farms in GA, but they tend not to be big exporters of their products.
KSinMA
@Mary G: Great letter … and, as the Twitter thread points out, that was no “employee”–that was Elizabeth Holtzman!
Major Major Major Major
@Dan B: Left-populists are often in favor of tariffs. (They’re more often opposed to free trade agreements, but it comes from the same place)
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jager:
The Horror!
TenguPhule
@Mary G:
Weak tea. Its their own members and that’s the most stern they can get?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@J R in WV: Thanks, I really do love The Huntington’s evening stroll; but you can only go if you’re a member. They also have member’s evenings for “upper members”, we had a nice picnic about a month ago and are going again next month.
Chyron HR
@AnonPhenom:
That’s right, the American people are all yearning for a great progressive revolutionary to declare a general strike, but you can’t do it because a handful of miscreants on this random blog are insufficiently devoted to the cause.
Brachiator
@Jeffro:
The press is trying to make sense of Trump’s intellectual gibberish. This is a waste of time. The Republican leadership is play acting at taking action. For example,
Hasn’t Trump failed to act on sanctions already imposed? And what does this mean is Trump is still committed to sucking up to Putin?
This is childish. There is no foreign policy being done here. “Won’t you be my neighbor?” is fine for Mr Rogers Neighborhood, but has got nothing to do with relations between nations. What concrete policy (aside from lining his pockets) is Trump advocating?
I agree with you big time that winning the House, and hopefully the Senate, is essential.
Trump may be crazy enough to try to cause mischief with his base no matter what. He is unhinged, and unfortunately, the GOP refuses to rein him in because they still perceive him to be useful.
But it says something unpleasant that Trump is stuck on his Putin love and dismissal of domestic intelligence despite all attempts to get him to walk this stuff back. He does not seem capable of changing his mind or recognizing reality. And he is really obsessed with this empty “Russia, friend!” thing.
Jager
@Brachiator:
My grandfather’s farm (other side of the family) was 3/4’s of a section. The one mile stretch of county road the farm was located on had 5 similar sized family farms. There is now 1 big farm. My baby Uncle sold one of the extra farm houses he owned to a retired B-52 pilot, he bought the house and 5 acres. Under the USDA rules, the retired Colonel is a farmer since he sells eggs and veggies at a farmer’s market. Baby Uncle and 10-12 other big operators do group buying of fuel, seed, fertilizer, like a mini coop. It’s interesting, the original Homestead Act was for 160 acres. It didn’t more than 30 years until most of the homesteaders sold out and moved to town. My home county in ND has 71.000 people, only 700 farms.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@trollhattan:
Hmmmm, who was Governor in 1960?
J R in WV
I spent quite a bit of time in Houston while my brother’s family was there, and my dad started out spending winters there to be with his only grandkids.
Then dad was diagnosed with a very rare form of leukemia, which interested the M D Anderson Cancer Center, which proceeded to get him into a clinical trial, which beat the leukemia, but the side effects of old-fashioned chemo required to make him eligible for the clinical trial caused COPD which killed him pretty quickly.
There is great Cajun and Creole food in Houston, great Asian food, great Latin American food. My first visit to Houston, we saw these huge concrete gullies running around the city, and I wondered what for?
The next day was all thunderstorms all day, and those giant concrete waterways overflowed instanter, with water lapping at the thresholds of the stores we were visiting to kill time before the bowl game, in which WVU beat TCU by scoring the first several times they had the football. Quite a while before family moved there.
Won’t be visiting Houston again for fun or family, ever. Nor Texas in general.
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Gavin Newsom Sr., wasn’t it?
tobie
@KSinMA: Yay for Liz. Love the closing of that letter. In lieu of saying Abolish ICE, maybe we should be saying Abolish the Dept of Homeland Security. The agency was only created after 9/11 and the name has always had a nativist air. Under Nielsen leadership it’s become a human rights violator.
debit
@Chyron HR: It reminds me of the time my cat slept in the sink and I used to tub faucet to brush my teeth and, according to a comment here, it was somehow my fault that democrats couldn’t get anything passed in the senate. Because I didn’t want to move my cat.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Yarrow:
If this were an episode of Supernatural, we’d dig up Reagan’s bones to apply salt and flames.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Major Major Major Major:
I mean, I can usually turn my brain off to enjoy fantasy stories that involve supernatural elements; even ones that involve them in “real world” setting. What I don’t like is when the author denigrates skeptics and turns them into strawmen.
However, in my own writing, I have a hard time writing god-like characters as good guys for the reasons I’ve layed out.
Brachiator
@Chyron HR: ?
Miss Bianca
@Mnemosyne: D and I just finished Season 1. Wasn’t sure at first whether it was going to make “the cut” – usually takes him longer than me to warm up to a new show like that one – but we got some genuine LOLs out of him so I think we’ll go on to Season 2. Plus, Kristen Bell, DUH!
Yarrow
@Raven: I’m way out of date on restaurants, but since you’re downtown try the Zydeco Louisiana Diner. It’ll be several blocks from your hotel but you can walk there. I was always fond of the Ragin’ Cajun, but it’s out on Richmond and that would be a drive for you.
JWL
I’m a Californian, and I’m OK with our tax dollars helping Americans scattered over the other 49 states. I’m conservative on that score, however. I expect that money to be spent wisely. But however easy it would be to cast political stones at those Trump voting fools that got themselves (and us all) in this mess, it does looks like they’re soon need all the help they can get. Again, that’s OK with me. Not every American in those red states is a republican voting fool who deserves to eat shit. Remember, too, the sins of todays political schmucks should not be visited on the next generation. In other words, Californians will never turn their backs on their fellow Americans however badly they fuck up. God knows we’ve too much history to do anything other than speak in the humblest of terms when offering political advice, too, having bequeathed the nation Nixon AND Reagan (and, just for laughs, Schwarzenegger). But those farm folks in the red states need to take a long, hard look in the mirror today. Like Californians did, when we finally snapped out of it and ran republicans back into the sewers after they gang raped our Aunt Millie (even then, we first suffered years of Schwarzenegger’s shuck and jive act as a direct consequentce of our own faults and follies before wising up).
Mary G
Miss Bianca
@zhena gogolia: It never occurred to me that it could be anything *but* airplane seat belts. The “bumpy night” thing seemed like a pretty obvious reference to turbulence.
zhena gogolia
@Mary G:
Haha, that’s where my high school graduation was. It ain’t a very big hall.
Baud
@Mary G: Maybe they shouldn’t be so private about it.
zhena gogolia
@Miss Bianca:
I always thought she was just talking about the party she was hosting.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: Ah yes, how could I forget.
zhena gogolia
@debit:
Oh, you sound like me! The gyrations I’ve gone through to accommodate the quirks of a cat!
Baud
@Mary G: Schatz deserves a golf clap for that one.
Jager
@JWL:
As a non-native Californian I agree with you. I left ND when I was 18, I go back for family events and that’s it. At one time ND was one of the most progressive states in the Union, it has a state bank, low interest, school, farm and business loans. It has a state owned mill and elevator. The RWNJ governor and legislature won’t go near the bank or the mill. The last governor, now Senator Hoeven wanted to move the state bank into the commercial banking world and got his fingers burned. Never the less they vote for wingnuts and for trump
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Jager:
White socialism. It always was, let’s face it.
schrodingers_cat
BS of Vt called the Ds, the party of 1%. Russian asset #2 is giving Russian asset #1 an assist just like he did prior to 2016 elections.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat: Do you have a link?
NonyNony
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
I’m pretty sure that those are questions the show is raising intentionally. The existence of Mindy St. Claire’s Medium Place alone could fuel years of discussion about the nature of the Celestial Bureaucracy that must exist in that universe…
debbie
@TenguPhule:
Recent weekly reports show pork exports to China at zero.
SiubhanDuinne
@Yarrow:
Completely O/T, and honestly I don’t really care, but whatthehell ever happened to James Carville (and Mary Matalin, for that matter)? I feel as though I haven’t heard of either of them in ages and ages.
ETA: Which is fine.
NotMax
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
“It’s a mystery.”
All purpose ecclesiastical fortune cookie message.
;)
Patricia Kayden
This is definitely a quid pro quo situation because White farmers aren’t the only people who will be heavily damaged by Trump’s stupid and unnecessary trade wars. The rest of us chumps will be paying more for our good and yet we’re not getting any funds from the Trump regime.
frosty fred
@SiubhanDuinne:Lucky you. I get e-mails from Carville regularly.
rikyrah
@Mary G:
They have been wonderful with their reporting.
NotMax
@SiubhanDuinne
Last century’s flavor of the month.
Actually, Carville occasionally still shows up. His accent has gotten so thick, and his affected countrified speech slurring so pronounced, that it requires subtitles to figure out what he’s saying most times.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Come on, this is the Trump admin, they can do dumber than that in their sleep – the Farmer bail out will come out of cuts from the Department of Agriculture pest abatement programs.
Baud
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Professional courtesy.
RAVEN
@Yarrow: cool!
Bill Arnold
@Jeffro:
Are there any think tanks or similar organizations that are set up to do rapid and updated (and respectable) analyses of economic consequences of [stupid shit] like trade wars? Better that they not be particularly partisan. (Serious question, actually. E.g. the NYTimes occasionally does this sort of analysis but it would need to be maintained over time as new news hits.)
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Mary G: This one of those mob things then, someone starts cheering and then everyone is cheering without realizing what’s being cheered?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
She made a great show of leaving the Republican Party, declaring herself a Libertarian, when trump won the primary, and was later revealed to be working for some pro-trump astroturf group. I resist the urge to condemn by association, but after 2000 and even more so after Iraq, I could never quite trust Carville.
Beagle strikes me as smart and canny and on the right side, but I don’t see much of him because he shares a network with Wolf Blitzer and Ari Fleischer
J R in WV
Goku,
I have to admit, I tried as a youngster to read those C S Lewis books, but ran out of steam on most of them. They were preachy and boring, and the more I realized how phony and xtian they were the less motivated I was to keep plowing, looking for something interesting.
So we aren’t always on opposite sides of the fence!
MoxieM
@lgerard: That’s hilarious…it’s freakin’ BJ’s in Seekonk…. not like it’s Northampton or Concord or some other blueblooded lefty town. I guess we would be expected to have a bacchanal and tear him limb from limb. These guys are all chickenshits.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Link
Baud
@schrodingers_cat: Thanks. Wow. Is it just me or is he getting worse?
Gelfling 545
Here’s his opinion on wht a trade war is ok. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-odd-defense-his-trade-war-were-playing-the-banks-money
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@schrodingers_cat: @Baud: god, I hate that man with a passion
Yutsano
@SiubhanDuinne: Mary shows up on Fox and CNN on occasion. James has pretty much disappeared. And AFAIK they’re still married.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@schrodingers_cat:
@Baud:
A lot of the comments to the tweet are critical of him (Wilmer), accusing him of being a Russian asset. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised. I mean, why couldn’t the guy release his tax returns if he had nothing to hide?
Viva BrisVegas
@J R in WV:
You mean those books where a main protagonist is exiled from the group for becoming a woman and therefore impure.
Where the happy ending is that a group of heroic children are killed before they can become morally polluted adults, in order that they may go to heaven.
Those books weren’t creepy at all.
Aleta
So insulting. This is how you describe a drought when no rain is forecast. All we can do is wait passively because the cause is external, not something we did.
Growing tensions? They’re not storm clouds we can only watch. Caused by the GOP, they can be ended by the GOP.
“…, the latest sign that Trump-Pence will not end their irrational policies that damage farmers.”
Keep the focus on 3 things: Trump-Pence chose to hurt farmers, they’re choosing to increase taxes on the middle class by borrowing 12 b (from whom? from the Chinese?), and everything they do requires people at the bottom to subsidize those at the top.
And ask the press to retract the “populist movement” stories.
Kathleen
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think I love you. In a platonic way of course!
Platonailedit
@TenguPhule:
White entitlement.
Bill Arnold
@Jeffro:
You are however right to be concerned that there is sometimes tactical messaging competence (of the evil sort usually) displayed by the administration. It’s not (just) DJT. (Probably not him at all IMO; he’s increasingly addled, and an intellectual diet of pure one-sided propaganda is not compatible with a reliable political intuition.) Start by trying to distinguish the voices on https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
Edit: also see “his” latest tweet:
catclub
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
I would ask why you could expect to find evidence of being a Russian asset in tax returns. Wouldn’t that kind of thing be omitted in tax returns?