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You are here: Home / Grandpa Crankypants Is In A Mood

Grandpa Crankypants Is In A Mood

by John Cole|  August 5, 20189:48 am| 201 Comments

This post is in: "Lock Her Up!!"

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"I…worked on this investigation for over a year…and…he just…he tweeted it out." – Robert Mueller. Probably.

— ᴊᴏꜱʜᴜᴀ? (@billyliberty) August 5, 2018

So, ummmm, the excuse used to be this was about adoption and had nothing to do with oppo research.

Trump Tweets a Confession, Then Sekulow Admits His Client Has Been Lying about His Involvementhttps://t.co/05JwonYZke

Maybe the President and his lawyers think the best way to avoid an interview with Robert Mueller is to confess to everything before noon on Sunday morning?

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 5, 2018

I guess Sunday has started with a bang.

BTW- related to the post last night about cheap eating as a kid, my mom called to remind me (I had completely forgotten), that Bill Chambers at Chambers General Store in town used to give my dad large bags of free wings when we were kids and we loved them. Apparently he would get the fresh chickens and have to butcher them, and no one wanted the wings. Dad, who grew up on a farm, knew better.

Have I told you all about Chambers General Store before?

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  1. 1.

    debbie

    August 5, 2018 at 9:52 am

    Too bad a large portion of the Media refuses to report the lies and corruption having to do with the Rigged Witch Hunt – but that is why we call them FAKE NEWS!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 5, 2018

    Too bad your own wife tweeted out against you in regard to LeBron James. I hope you are choking on this!

  2. 2.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 9:52 am

    Infrastructure Week — the gift that keeps on giving?

  3. 3.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 9:57 am

    Unrelated to Shitgibbon: the picture of “white cliffs of Dover-type chalk” in Cole’s tweetsteam (or whatever it’s called) is pretty amazing.

  4. 4.

    Mike in NC

    August 5, 2018 at 10:01 am

    @debbie: Fat Bastard can’t stroke out fast enough…

  5. 5.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 10:02 am

    Shouldn’t the tag be Lock HIM Up?

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 5, 2018 at 10:03 am

    @debbie: Speaking of: LeBron James, the most important athlete in America, explained

    But the 33-year-old James is much more than a living sports legend. He is an actor, a media mogul, and a cultural icon. He rose to the top of his sport at the same time that America was forced to confront its systematic violence against black people, especially young black men, and James has taken up that cause as one of the most famous young black men in the nation. He is perhaps the most socially and politically influential athlete since Muhammad Ali.

    When Fox News host Laura Ingraham told James to “shut up and dribble,” it became a national news story. When James called President Donald Trump a “bum” on Twitter, defending players who bucked the tradition of championship teams coming to the White House, it was a headline on the front page of the New York Times. He held a campaign rally for Hillary Clinton during the 2016 campaign.

    The 2018 summer reminded us of LeBron’s gravitational force. He signed with the Los Angeles Lakers, the NBA’s biggest franchise, and rebalanced the league. He opened a new public school in his hometown of Akron. Then that very same week, the president insulted this young successful black man’s intelligence on Twitter.

  7. 7.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 10:06 am

    Multiple sources tell The Daily Beast that David Pecker and the National Enquirer's top brass made a conscious decision to pull back on their pro-Trump coverage, just as Pecker's media empire found itself embroiled in Trumpworld's legal and P.R. woes.

    https://t.co/65Exqxi0UO— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 5, 2018

    The turd’s touch. It never fails.

  8. 8.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 10:07 am

    Mueller got back from vacation on Friday. This week is going to be even more nuts than usual.

  9. 9.

    CarolDuhart2

    August 5, 2018 at 10:07 am

    OT:? I have three blogs on my website, plus a website itself. I’m trying to decide if I can afford a move. I pay $75 annually for hosting at a place where I’ve been for 20 years back when they were the only one working with Web Tv. Well, one blog timed out after 10 minutes, and the others have so little traffic it hardly matters. This morning I did a speed test for my domain, and even the domain didn’t come up. Anyone have any suggestions that are reasonable?

    BTW, my domain is: Carol Duhart. Com

  10. 10.

    debbie

    August 5, 2018 at 10:09 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Nice to see that Michael Jordan is supporting LeBron and is pushing back against Trump. Despite Trump’s “I like Mike!” bullshit.

  11. 11.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 10:10 am

    Trump just live-tweeted that his campaign willingly met with a foreign adversary to throw an election.

    This insanity is bein’ brought to you courtesy of the Republican Party. Remember that when you vote in November.

    https://t.co/0IZb665ZHV— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) August 5, 2018

  12. 12.

    CarolDuhart2

    August 5, 2018 at 10:10 am

    Keep watching for the day they find him under the Resolute Desk babbling and unable to even ask for his orange juice and Egg McMuffin. Will Melania do a Woodrow Wilson and transcribe stuff for him, hiding this from the rest of the world, or will she call Pence over and ask that he be 25th Amended? Stay Tuned.

  13. 13.

    BruceFromOhio

    August 5, 2018 at 10:13 am

    Have I told you all about Chambers General Store before?

    It seems familiar, but do please elaborate. Perhaps in a contrast & compare piece of its own?

  14. 14.

    CarolDuhart2

    August 5, 2018 at 10:13 am

    @CarolDuhart2: There’s a reason why Reagan was the oldest person up until Trump to be nominated, maybe even run for President. And Reagan had enough political experience to at least muddle through. Watching a President deteriorate before your eyes is an ugly thing.

  15. 15.

    PsiFighter37

    August 5, 2018 at 10:14 am

    Really cannot take 2.5 years more of this stupidity and insanity…

  16. 16.

    Mike E

    August 5, 2018 at 10:14 am

    This all is starting to resemble the police call to John Wayne Gacy’s house where he greeted them at his door with, “Nobody suspects a clown, amirite?”

  17. 17.

    BruceFromOhio

    August 5, 2018 at 10:15 am

    @debbie:

    Despite Trump’s “I like Mike!” bullshit.

    Perhaps the dumpster fire was confruding him with Pence?

  18. 18.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 10:16 am

    @CarolDuhart2: Mnem was recently looking at places to host a website for her book. She might have some suggestions since she did some looking and also got input here.

  19. 19.

    hueyplong

    August 5, 2018 at 10:17 am

    Odd, if the meeting was totally ok, that Trump feels the need to say he wasn’t aware of it at the time.

    I guess when you are King of the Idiots, you don’t worry about your devoted lickspittles being given pause by that apparent contradition.

    Kind of enjoying the boa constrictor effect here. Keep going slowly and steadily, Mueller. It’s messing with the sentient part of Trump’s head.

  20. 20.

    MattF

    August 5, 2018 at 10:19 am

    My theory has been that Trump is deeply spooked by the financial revelations in the Manafort trial. Trump hasn’t budged a millimeter in his refusal to release tax returns– and now here’s Mueller dropping Manafort’s kimono. Repeatedly. I’d guess that Trump’s sources of cash and the places the cash ends up are, um, similar to Manafort’s.

  21. 21.

    dmsilev

    August 5, 2018 at 10:20 am

    We’ll learn later that this _is_ Mueller’s interview with the President. Leak suggestions about topics, and wait for Tweets to come back. It’s innovative, but effective.

  22. 22.

    rikyrah

    August 5, 2018 at 10:20 am

    Did Dolt45 throw Jr. Under the bus yesterday?

  23. 23.

    Gravenstone

    August 5, 2018 at 10:22 am

    @Mike in NC: Given that he now (belatedly) recognizes the jeopardy his moron sprogs are in, that possible outcome moves closer each passing day.

  24. 24.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 5, 2018 at 10:24 am

    Both my grandpas were kind, affectionate and wonderful, not odious like the person in WH.
    We ate meat once a week, were completely vegetarian three times a week and had fish and legumes the other three days. Never thought it was privation then and would go back to that kind of a diet now if it were not so expensive in terms of both time and cash. I miss the fresh fish, the crabs, the clams, most not even found in the cold Atlantic waters. Hapoos mangoes, figs, custard apple. OMG I so miss the food of my childhood

  25. 25.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 5, 2018 at 10:25 am

    @hueyplong:

    the sentient part of Trump’s head.

    ?????? I hadn’t realized there was such a thing.

  26. 26.

    Citizen_X

    August 5, 2018 at 10:26 am

    @Platonailedit: I’ve been calling him the Shit Midas or Reverse Midas, now I’m going to with the brown hole. Once you’re in his orbit, nothing can stop you from spiraling in to your shitty doom.

  27. 27.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 10:26 am

    @rikyrah: He will throw everyone under the bus to save himself. Ivanka will be last but he won’t spare her.

  28. 28.

    rikyrah

    August 5, 2018 at 10:27 am

    I never forget the segment on Maddow, where she outlined the numerous occasions that the Russians offered to help political campaigns throughout our history, and all those campaigns went straight to the FBI.??

  29. 29.

    CarolDuhart2

    August 5, 2018 at 10:28 am

    I had some thoughts last night: that he might bolt if he could somehow install Ivanka as VP. What about Pence? If Pence is considered too tainted to confirm, or feels he would be left with the flaming bag of poo, then a craven, cynical Congress confirms her in order to hold on to the Trumpers for 2020. Crazy? I’m seeing crazy in politics that I never thought I’d see. Even a Dem Congress might let her through because they think she would be a weak candidate, unable to rally the Trumpers like Dad, and possibly complicit herself.

  30. 30.

    Citizen_X

    August 5, 2018 at 10:28 am

    @Citizen_X: “go with.” Where’s mah edit function on mobile?

  31. 31.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 5, 2018 at 10:30 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    If Pence is considered too tainted to confirm,

    There is no confirmation process for a VP ascending to the Presidency, it’s automatic.

  32. 32.

    kindness

    August 5, 2018 at 10:31 am

    Funny. That story about Chambers General Store made me flash on Green Acres. Of course they would have know chicken wings can bring tiny bits of awesome to ones taste buds.

  33. 33.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 10:32 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    Despite his delusions, the thug is not a king/dictator to anoint his ‘heir’.

  34. 34.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 10:32 am

    @MattF:

    Trump hasn’t budged a millimeter in his refusal to release tax returns– and now here’s Mueller dropping Manafort’s kimono.

    Doing so would show the world that he’s a thousandaire, assuming he’s not actually insolvent (which in not necessarily a good assumption).

    And then we’d get articles from the usual suspects (FTFNYT, for example) about how the still-Shitgibbonistas are reacting to the news, etc., etc. Good times, good times.

  35. 35.

    CarolDuhart2

    August 5, 2018 at 10:34 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Under this scenario, they find a way to move Pence out of the way like
    Agnew-maybe he’s complicit too, and a VP lacks Presidential immunity-and a convenient indictment pressures him to resign. Then Ivanka becomes a “continuity” candidate, especially since it doesn’t look like the Republican Party has anyone else that could get enough votes and they fear that anyone else would lose them the Trumpers.

  36. 36.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 10:35 am

    @rikyrah:

    I never forget the segment on Maddow, where she outlined the numerous occasions that the Russians offered to help political campaigns throughout our history, and all those campaigns went straight to the FBI.

    “That’s why I love him! He’s draining the swamp, destroying Big Gummint convention, not operating in a business-as-usual way like that blackity-black black guy.”
    – Cletus N. Spucker, economically-anxious WWC voter

  37. 37.

    Tokyokie

    August 5, 2018 at 10:36 am

    @Yarrow:
    Yarrow
    August 5, 2018 at 10:26 am

    He will throw everyone under the bus to save himself. Ivanka will be last but he won’t spare her.

    My guess is that once Ivanka figures out that Daddy’s estate is of negative worth and that the threat of getting cut out of the will is an empty one, she’ll turn on him with a tell-all revealing that yes, yes he did, when she was in her mid-teens. (Yet the public scolds of the Evangelical movement will still support him.)

  38. 38.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 10:36 am

    related to the post last night about cheap eating as a kid, my mom called to remind me (I had completely forgotten), that Bill Chambers at Chambers General Store in town used to give my dad large bags of free wings when we were kids and we loved them.

    Was your mom reading the blog???!!!!

  39. 39.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 10:38 am

    Jay Sekulow on Trump's role in dictating statement to Don Jr. on Trump Tower Meeting:

    "I had bad information at that time and made a mistake in my statement … over time facts develop"

    WRONG!

    Facts always stay the same.

    Lies "develop"!

    — Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) August 5, 2018

  40. 40.

    Gravenstone

    August 5, 2018 at 10:40 am

    @rikyrah: All, except one…

  41. 41.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 10:40 am

    @CarolDuhart2: That won’t happen. Ivanka is a traitor and if it even looks like he might be thinking about it, her treason will become more public.

    @Tokyokie: She may do that, or try to do that, but again, her treason will become public and it’s not going to work out as well for her as she might think.

  42. 42.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 10:41 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    I’m pretty cynical, but I think the probability of Ivanka — or Uday or Qusay or Melania or Jared or take-your-pick — getting anything like that is so close to zero that you need an SEM to see space between them.

    Now, I can MAYBE see the jeenyuses in Congress begging ZEGS to do it, “for the good of the country,” and him doing it (after refusing the laurel crown three times, of course), but that’s about it.

  43. 43.

    Mike J

    August 5, 2018 at 10:42 am

    @rikyrah: I’d love to see that if you can dig up a link. Republicans are already arguing that any campaign would break the law the way Trump did. They seem to have forgotten about Al and the magic prep book.

  44. 44.

    Gravenstone

    August 5, 2018 at 10:45 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    maybe he’s complicit too

    No maybe about it. Pence is Manafort’s hand picked man. Remember Donnie getting cold feet on AF1 and asking if he could change his mind prior to the announcement?

    Of course, the hands manipulating Manafort remain slightly offstage. In the end, Pence is as bought and paid for as the rest of them.

  45. 45.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 10:47 am

    More shit rolling down the trumpike.

    New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood has announced that she's already conducting an investigation asking if Trump had violated the emoluments clause at his businesses in New York.

    https://t.co/hK1Efztzxy— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 5, 2018

  46. 46.

    Baud

    August 5, 2018 at 10:47 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Lebron James is like the Baud! of basketball.

  47. 47.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 5, 2018 at 10:48 am

    The dotard has confessed.

  48. 48.

    CarolDuhart2

    August 5, 2018 at 10:49 am

    Admittedly, the VP scenario is a long shot-Pence would have to resign before ascending, and somehow daddy nominates her to replace him. But as craven as this Congress has been, I’m not sure they would face the wrath of the Trumpian base and actually refuse him. A better-but still long-shot scenario would have him not run in 2020 and anoint her informally as his successor. She wouldn’t likely win, but try telling Daddy that.

  49. 49.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 10:49 am

    @Gravenstone: Absolutely right. Pence is as dirty as the rest of them. Remember that Manafort had to have the pilot fake engine trouble for the plane so they “had to” stay over another night in Indianapolis so Trump would spend more time with Pence?

  50. 50.

    Baud

    August 5, 2018 at 10:51 am

    @CarolDuhart2: It takes 2/3 vote to confirm a new Veep.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    August 5, 2018 at 10:52 am

    @rikyrah: Do we think Trump is smart enough or clever enough to throw Jr. under the bus while SEEMING to be supporting him? No. Do we think he might have an evil advisor who is? Yep.

    Is that what actually happened here? I have no idea. What’s your take?

  52. 52.

    Doug R

    August 5, 2018 at 10:52 am

    All the Costcos around here offer a bucket of 30 chicken wings for $19.99.

  53. 53.

    Tokyokie

    August 5, 2018 at 10:56 am

    @Yarrow:

    She may do that, or try to do that, but again, her treason will become public and it’s not going to work out as well for her as she might think.

    Well, a family trait she shares with der Trumpenführer is thinking she’s considerably smarter than she is. Look how her fashion line or her efforts to be the spokesmodel for working women have worked out.

  54. 54.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 10:56 am

    @Baud: I’ve read it’s just a simple majority, not 2/3.

  55. 55.

    Tokyokie

    August 5, 2018 at 10:58 am

    @Mike J:

    I’d love to see that if you can dig up a link. Republicans are already arguing that any campaign would break the law the way Trump did. They seem to have forgotten about Al and the magic prep book.

    Republicans assume that everybody else is just as corrupt as they are, because everybody they know is that corrupt.

  56. 56.

    randy khan

    August 5, 2018 at 11:02 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    I run four sites and use Heller Information Systems (his.com) for all of them. My sites are pretty simple and low maintenance, so I can’t attest to how they handle video, or anything that requires real throughput, but I will say that the customer service is great and I’ve had almost no problems that weren’t my own fault.

  57. 57.

    Gelfling 545

    August 5, 2018 at 11:04 am

    @SFAW: OMG I just had a terrible thought. You don’t suppose Ryan is resigning because he hopes to be Pence’s vp do you? Please dog, no!

  58. 58.

    Thoughtful David

    August 5, 2018 at 11:05 am

    @CarolDuhart2:
    I highly suspect there has been no direct communication between Melanoma and Trump since the incident where he caught her watching CNN. Probably haven’t been in the same room, and probably won’t be if it’s her choice. Keep in mind that since the CNN incident we’ve also heard the recording of him talking with Cohen about paying off yet another woman. Yeah, she won’t be doing anything to help him out.

  59. 59.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 5, 2018 at 11:06 am

    Matthew Yglesias @ mattyglesias
    Specifically with the assistance of Hope Hicks who rematerialized in Ohio yesterday for a timely opportunity to do a little witness tampering

    context: She ‘assisted’ in drafting the AF1 statement about Li’l Donnie and the Colluders. I can’t imagine Hicks wasn’t interviewed for hours by the Mueller team. Is she dumb enough to try to change her story now? How did her lawyers (friends, parents, somebody) not throw a net over her when she piped up that she was going to go on this trip?

  60. 60.

    randy khan

    August 5, 2018 at 11:06 am

    I read his tweets and wonder what it must be like to go through life angry all the time. Even the boastful tweets are filled with grievances about other people (often made up, but never mind). It must be awful.

  61. 61.

    RedDirtDirl

    August 5, 2018 at 11:08 am

    @BruceFromOhio: I figured he was talking about Mike Tyson.

  62. 62.

    Central Planning

    August 5, 2018 at 11:08 am

    @Tokyokie:

    My guess is that once Ivanka figures out that Daddy’s estate is of negative worth

    How can she not know it is worthless? I can’t believe she is dumb enough to not realize that.

  63. 63.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 11:10 am

    @Gelfling 545: No. Pence is resigning because he’s a traitor and his treason is known by Mueller.

  64. 64.

    Tokyokie

    August 5, 2018 at 11:12 am

    @Central Planning:

    How can she not know it is worthless? I can’t believe she is dumb enough to not realize that.

    She inherited her daddy’s intelligence and still believes that the Trump brand itself is worth eleventy billion dollars.

  65. 65.

    Mike in NC

    August 5, 2018 at 11:13 am

    @randy khan: For the Trumpsters (Fat Bastard, Possum Queen, et al) every day is Festivus, with ritual Airing of Grievances.

  66. 66.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    August 5, 2018 at 11:15 am

    Someone speak stupid, because Trump really isn’t make any sense here.

  67. 67.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 11:16 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Maybe she was wearing a wire.

  68. 68.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 11:17 am

    @Gravenstone:

    No maybe about it. Pence is Manafort’s hand picked man. Remember Donnie getting cold feet on AF1 and asking if he could change his mind prior to the announcement?

    This might be a blockbuster. Some direct evidence that some Russian operative instructed Manafort to pick Pence.

  69. 69.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 5, 2018 at 11:18 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: That’s my problem with most of his tweets, they don’t make much sense. We need a Moron to English translator.

  70. 70.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 5, 2018 at 11:20 am

    @Yarrow: Before or after T?

  71. 71.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 5, 2018 at 11:21 am

    @Tokyokie: Whatever Jared fucked up with that 666 building, the Kushners have un-glamorous real estate all over the greater NY metro area, especially I believe northern New Jersey. And Jared’s little brother, the one who went to the women’s march (and the gun safety march?) runs what is essentially the family hedge fund, which I think I’ve read is hundreds of millions. I’m sure that money is firewalled off from 666 in a thousand ways. Lucretia will be fine, financially. I think there’s a solid chance that she and Jared will both face NY state charges.

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    August 5, 2018 at 11:21 am

    @Mike J:

    They seem to have forgotten about Al and the magic prep book.

    ???

  73. 73.

    Kay

    August 5, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Mueller won’t Comey this all up and skew an election result with some big dramatic announcement on election eve, so I think he tries to bring anything big in the period before the midterms. Is that a reasonable guess, do you think?

  74. 74.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 5, 2018 at 11:23 am

    @Citizen_X:
    Orange hole.

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: As I said below: wutta maroon. Or he’s really tired of doing the puppet thing, and is starting his flameout.

  75. 75.

    satby

    August 5, 2018 at 11:24 am

    @Yarrow: where did you read Pence was resigning? Or did you mean Ryan?

  76. 76.

    chris

    August 5, 2018 at 11:24 am

    Don Jr. and another Russian. Probably just another coincidence.

  77. 77.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 11:24 am

    @schrodingers_cat:
    @Yarrow: Gah. That should have been Ryan. Sorry.

  78. 78.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 11:25 am

    @satby: I meant Ryan. Have not yet had coffee. Edit function was not available and site went blank for a minute. UGH. Sorry for mix up.

  79. 79.

    Frankensteinbeck

    August 5, 2018 at 11:26 am

    @Gravenstone:

    In the end, Pence is as bought and paid for as the rest of them.

    Mueller doesn’t leak, and Pence is the kind of stupid that doesn’t say anything that isn’t pre-scripted. Unlike Trump, he won’t spontaneously incriminate himself in public. For all we know, Mueller has Pence square in his sights and the press just hasn’t picked up that THAT is why Manafort is an early target.

  80. 80.

    Felony Govt

    August 5, 2018 at 11:26 am

    @CarolDuhart2: I’m working on a website on Wix and they seem fine so far. Wait for the 50% off deal for the first year which gets you a $7 per month rate. I don’t know if they could handle 3 blogs though.

  81. 81.

    WaterGirl

    August 5, 2018 at 11:27 am

    @Thoughtful David: Trump has done a million things that would humiliate a normal person, which Melania isn’t, but I imagine she has felt some humiliation at least. Him publicly making it clear that she gets scolded like a child if she watches a news channel that is not FOX?

    I think that was a bridge too far for Melania. So either that’s the reason why she is speaking out now – Lebron James, etc – she’s so pissed and humiliated that she doesn’t care. Or she suddenly has proof that Trump violated their prenup so she feels she can speak out.

    If they weren’t destroying our country in the process, it might be interesting to study the personal dynamics since these are not normal people.

  82. 82.

    WaterGirl

    August 5, 2018 at 11:29 am

    @Yarrow:

    No. Pence is resigning because he’s a traitor and his treason is known by Mueller.

    Be still my beating heart.

    I assume you meant that Pence would be resigning…? Please don’t get my hopes up like that! :-)

    edit: never mind, I see that you meant to say Ryan.

  83. 83.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 11:30 am

    Too bad a large portion of the Media refuses to report the lies and corruption having to do with the Rigged Witch Hunt – but that is why we call them FAKE NEWS!— Donald J. Trump

    Damn, Trump is a tiresome old fool. I know his supporters eat this shit up, but Trump is normalizing a vision of the presidency as a petty sewer wallow. And this from a con man who promised to “drain the swamp” of Washington DC. Instead he’s made the White House into Swamp Central. And it stinks to high heaven.

  84. 84.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 5, 2018 at 11:30 am

    @Mike in NC: With 3STX Bobby back from vacation, time for Arrestivus.

  85. 85.

    WaterGirl

    August 5, 2018 at 11:30 am

    @Yarrow: I’m guessing that Hope Hicks was brought in to calm Trump down.

    Surely she wouldn’t be wearing an old-fashioned wire, but they can do a lot with cell phones today, right? Or is that just a TV thing?

  86. 86.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 11:30 am

    @Kay: I’m expecting a lot to drop in August. Another indictment this week will not surprise me at all.

  87. 87.

    The Dangerman

    August 5, 2018 at 11:32 am

    @Tokyokie:

    My guess is that once Ivanka figures out that Daddy’s estate is of negative worth…

    I think Melania just fainted.

  88. 88.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 11:32 am

    @WaterGirl: Read my comments on that. Mixed up Ryan with Pence and I couldn’t edit and blog went dark for a minute for me. Also, no coffee.

  89. 89.

    rikyrah

    August 5, 2018 at 11:32 am

    @Mike J:

    Here you go

    History highlights Trump’s failure on Russian election outreach

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/history-highlights-trump-s-failure-on-russian-election-outreach-1240708675751

  90. 90.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 5, 2018 at 11:32 am

    @Yarrow: No worries, ultimately they will all fall down.

  91. 91.

    Uncle Cosmo

    August 5, 2018 at 11:32 am

    @Citizen_X: Reverse Midas – as in Sadim Insane?? (Hey, it ain’t “Agolf Twitler,” but then again, what is?)

  92. 92.

    Cermet

    August 5, 2018 at 11:33 am

    @CarolDuhart2: uh, the VP automatically becomes president if the current president is unable to serve for any reason – congress does not confirm nor have any roll in such a transition.

  93. 93.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 11:33 am

    @WaterGirl: Yes, “wearing a wire” is just how it’s often described. Mobile phones can be turned into recording devices, a technique that was used by the FBI many times to catch these Republican traitors in action.

  94. 94.

    Another Scott

    August 5, 2018 at 11:35 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The 666 is saga is apparently coming to an end, but of course there are likely lots of things that Mueller could look at under the surface… Curbed from May 17:

    Kushner Companies’s ongoing troubles over its 666 Fifth Avenue flagship may finally be coming to an end. The New York Times has learned through real estate sources that Kushner Companies is close to signing a deal with Brookfield Properties that would allow the latter to take over the leasing and operation of the office tower.

    The deal with Brookfield however may bring up the same sort of issues that hobbled a Zaha Hadid-designed $7.5 billion redevelopment of the site. That deal, which was with the Chinese insurance company, Anbang, fell through because legislators raised concerns about Jared Kushner’s ties to the White House and his family business (he stepped away from the family business after Donald Trump was elected president).

    Qatar Investment Authority, which has ties to the Qatar government, is one of the major investors in Brookfield, and the Times posits that Kushner’s role in the White House as the Middle East liaison might complicate the Brookfield deal as well.

    […]

    Qatar? That Qatar?

    The Guardian:

    The government of Qatar bought a $6.5m apartment in one of Donald Trump’s New York towers soon after the dismissal of a lawsuit that tried to stop the president benefiting from such deals.

    Qatar’s mission to the United Nations signed a deal for the condominium at Trump World Tower on 17 January, according to city records. The purchase means that the Middle Eastern state now owns four units in the building, for which it paid $16.5m.

    Qatar? That Qatar? FTFNYT:

    WASHINGTON — President Trump, who last year denounced the Persian Gulf state of Qatar as a “funder of terrorism” and backed its rivals in a contentious regional feud, welcomed its monarch to the Oval Office on Tuesday and portrayed him as a partner in the fight against extremists.

    The friendly visit represented a remarkable turnaround for a president who had once portrayed Qatar as part of the problem. But it reflected the success of an intense and expensive effort by Qatar and its paid lobbyists, including a top fund-raiser for Mr. Trump, to change its image in Washington and present it as a partner with the United States in the war on terrorism.

    […]

    Last June, Mr. Trump stood in the Rose Garden and accepted the view of Qatar’s regional rivals, including Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, that the small energy-rich emirate was providing money to terrorist groups, cozying up to Iran and harboring fugitives. The Saudis and others had instituted a boycott of Qatar, citing terrorism financing, and Mr. Trump echoed their conclusions during a meeting with reporters.

    Qatar, he said then, was a “funder of terror at a very high level,” and he demanded that it cut off that money flow to rejoin the circle of responsible nations. That put him at odds with Rex W. Tillerson, then his secretary of state, who sympathized with Qatar as it endured the Saudi-led boycott. Mr. Trump recently fired Mr. Tillerson for other reasons, but has now come around to his point of view.

    […]

    Etc., etc.

    “Follow the money!!”

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    August 5, 2018 at 11:35 am

    @Yarrow: Thanks for the confirmation!

  96. 96.

    Baud

    August 5, 2018 at 11:35 am

    @Yarrow: You’re right. I was thinking of Section 4 of the 25th amendment.

  97. 97.

    Jim Parish

    August 5, 2018 at 11:35 am

    @Baud: No, it’s a simple majority vote in both houses. Amendment 25, Section 2..

  98. 98.

    Kay

    August 5, 2018 at 11:37 am

    @Yarrow:

    I feel like if the “norm” is they attempt to not interfere in elections- a norm Comey admitted but then excused with his ridiculous, circular blathering- then Mueller will follow the norm.

    Remember, too. The one and only reason the Trump kids are at risk is because they and their father put themselves at risk.

    They could have opted not to take advantage of nepotism and led their own lives like normal grown ups, but they all made a conscious decision to hop on the Trump Presidential grift train. This is THEM. Their poor decisions. Jared shouldn’t have taken a no-work job with his father in law and Don Jr. should have stuck with quietly laundering money for his father’s criminal enterprises.

  99. 99.

    Thoughtful David

    August 5, 2018 at 11:39 am

    @WaterGirl:
    Yep. My point was that I can’t see her helping to bail him out on anything.

  100. 100.

    sukabi

    August 5, 2018 at 11:47 am

    @Platonailedit: absolutely. LOCK HIM UP. LOCK HIM UP. LOCK. HIM.
    UP.

  101. 101.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 11:49 am

    @Kay: I think Mueller will follow the norm too, but Trump isn’t on the ballot. His kids aren’t on the ballot. Still, I agree he’ll err on the side of caution.

    The kids are awful people and they put themselves in this position. No sympathy. None whatsoever.

  102. 102.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 11:52 am

    @Kay:

    I am happy that the fugly’s family ‘volunteered’. Now, finally we can see the whole corrupt con klan going down.

  103. 103.

    dnfree

    August 5, 2018 at 11:53 am

    @CarolDuhart2: I’ve said this before, and it’s not particularly popular here, but no one in my age group should be running for president, or should have been running in 2016. That includes Bernie, Hillary, Elizabeth Warren, and Joe Biden along with Trump. I don’t care how otherwise wonderful they are or how much supposed stamina they have. The generational passing of the torch happened with Obama. No one currently over the age of 66 (just to pick an arbitrary number) should be planning to run in 2020. Go ahead, jump on me.

  104. 104.

    Uncle Cosmo

    August 5, 2018 at 11:53 am

    @CarolDuhart2: Problem is, there’s such a thing as the official line of succession. In case Article II Section 1 of the Constitution isn’t explicit enough –

    In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President

    – Amendment XXV, Section 1 makes it crystal clear:

    In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

    (Amendment XXV, Section 1) (ETA: removed a stupid incorrect comment)

    So one would first have to remove Mikey Dense from the office of VP (via impeachment & removal or resignation Agnew-style), then replace him with Lucrezia (per Amendment XXV Section 2) & deep6 the Orange Tufted Shitgibbon.

    Seems like several bridges too far for an Agolf Twitler & his Schitzstaffel. But I’d dearly love to see it get as far as to remove the former SMOTHOR (Stupidest Member Of The House Of Representatives) from the on-deck circle…wouldn’t you? :D

  105. 105.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 11:54 am

    @Gelfling 545:

    OMG I just had a terrible thought. You don’t suppose Ryan is resigning because he hopes to be Pence’s vp do you? Please dog, no!

    I don’t think he would need to resign before being nominated, but I’m not an expert on succession protocols (or whatever).

    I DO think he is “retiring” because there was a reasonable chance he would lose in November. [I think Randy Bryce had the early edge; I’m thinking — admittedly based on zero data — that either Bryce or Cathy Myers would beat ZEGS.]

  106. 106.

    JMG

    August 5, 2018 at 11:55 am

    When I was a kid, eight or nine, in Delaware in the late ’50s, my mom went to an auction of a bankrupt chicken processing company. She returned with 100 pounds of chicken wings she had gotten for a bid of eight cents a pound. A hundred pounds is a lot of wings, but we had one of those old style freezers big enough for human bodies in our basement. Had them about every meal that summer and my parents had lots of cocktail parties where wings were the food served. I’ve loved them ever since. If only we had known about buffalo sauce back then!.

  107. 107.

    Betty Cracker

    August 5, 2018 at 11:56 am

    This is kinda alarming:

    The Fake News hates me saying that they are the Enemy of the People only because they know it’s TRUE. I am providing a great service by explaining this to the American People. They purposely cause great division & distrust. They can also cause War! They are very dangerous & sick!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 5, 2018

    The media is totally going to start a war by criticizing Trump.

  108. 108.

    sukabi

    August 5, 2018 at 11:56 am

    @CarolDuhart2: it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if that’s how he spends most of his days…maybe not under the desk…but in the bathroom or bedroom wandering the halls babbling / tweeting nonsensically…

    Melania’s not going to seek “help” with removal…she’ll hire some poor bastard to keep him clean and keep him propped up while she goes about her business wearing her “I really don’t care” jacket.

    And we’re back to having to re-enter nym and email….grrrrrr.??

  109. 109.

    Mike J

    August 5, 2018 at 11:58 am

    @WaterGirl: When Al Gore’s Campaign Received Illegal Election Material, He Turned It in to the FBI

    @rikyrah: Thanks!

  110. 110.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 11:59 am

    @dnfree:

    Yup. The oldies have fucked up enough. Time to give that chance to next generation.

  111. 111.

    Uncle Cosmo

    August 5, 2018 at 11:59 am

    @Baud: Um…wrong. Amendment XXV, Section 2:

    Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

  112. 112.

    trollhattan

    August 5, 2018 at 12:00 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    He’s like a movie autocrat, but as directed by Ed Wood.

  113. 113.

    Gravenstone

    August 5, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    @Brachiator: There has been assertion that Russia vetoed Romney for SecState based off communication intercepts. I don’t think it unreasonable to believe similar evidence exists directing Pence’s selection.

  114. 114.

    The Dangerman

    August 5, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    The media is totally going to start a war by criticizing Trump.

    Citizen Can’t?

    ETA: Trump sure as hell isn’t calling out for Rosebud in the end.

  115. 115.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I’m guessing that Hope Hicks was brought in to calm Trump down.

    Ooh, I think you are right about that. Interesting that she seems to be one of the few people who can calm him down.

    OTOH, a British tabloid recently reported that Hicks and disgraced aide Rob Porter were seen frolicking in Central Park. Hicks had a chance to distance herself from this administration, but seems willing to jump back into it.

  116. 116.

    trollhattan

    August 5, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    He’s like a movie autocrat-dictator, only as directed by Ed Wood.

    [weird–my comment disappeared and I have an edit option beneath somebody else’s, which I totally am not taking advantage of.]

    ETA the second–now earlier comment appears. Alain!!!

  117. 117.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    They seem to have forgotten about Al and the magic prep book.

    ???

    During the 2000 campaign, the Gore campaign was given some debate-prep materials (apparently) stolen from the Bush campaign. So, of course Gore, being the corrupt evil Demon-rat that he is, immediately turned it over to the FBI.

    ETA: Or what Mike J said.

  118. 118.

    Uncle Cosmo

    August 5, 2018 at 12:04 pm

    @Yarrow: What you said more succinctly (can’t edit prev comment).

  119. 119.

    trollhattan

    August 5, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    @Brachiator:
    Hope Hicks IS Infrastructure Week.

  120. 120.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    @JMG:

    A hundred pounds is a lot of wings, but we had one of those old style freezers big enough for human bodies in our basement.

    So what did you do with them, to make room for the wings? A little early for it to have been Jimmy Hoffa, but …

    Or is that not what you meant?

  121. 121.

    dnfree

    August 5, 2018 at 12:09 pm

    @Mike J: I’m glad someone else remembers Al Gore and the prep book. I’ve mentioned it to people and gotten blank stares.

  122. 122.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    Trump sure as hell isn’t calling out for Rosebud in the end.

    Liar-in-Chief WISHES he were as rich as Kane/Hearst. Hell, he wishes he had one-hundredth of Hearst’s wealth.

  123. 123.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    Is this Trump’s confession and cry for help?

    The Fake News hates me saying that they are the Enemy of the People only because they know it’s TRUE. I am providing a great service by explaining this to the American People. They purposely cause great division & distrust. They can also cause War! They are very dangerous & sick!

    Trump: I am the Enemy of the people. I purposely cause great division & distrust. I can also cause War! I am very dangerous & sick.

    Pretty much says it all.

  124. 124.

    Uncle Cosmo

    August 5, 2018 at 12:12 pm

    @Brachiator: I tell ya, the former SMOTHOR (Stupidest Member Of The House Of Representatives)** is in fact the KKKamchatkan KKKandidate, “Mother” is in fact his controller (a la Angela Lansbury in TMC), & Vlad’s devious scheme is to simplify into a winning endgame by sacrificing his Shitgibbon & promoting Dense. Cross fingers, toes, eyes that Bobby 3Styx is on him like ugly on a moose.

    —–
    ** & y’know, if Louie “Gomer” Gohmert was in there at the time, that’s Some. God. Damn. Distinction…in a negative sense...

  125. 125.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 12:12 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    It’s always projection with him. He’s the Enemy of the People. He purposely causes division and distrust. He can start a war and is very dangerous and sick.

    Given that, I’ll expect war talk this week. Probably against Iran but possibly some other country as well. Maybe a warning tweet at Kim Jong Un.

  126. 126.

    Kay

    August 5, 2018 at 12:13 pm

    @Platonailedit:

    I am too but it is also true that smart, experienced lawyers can’t and don’t predict how legal proceedings or prosecutions or litigation will turn out and that’s because they can’t. It takes weird twists and turns. It’s like starting up a big machine where you can’t control the outcome – what you’re trusting is the process will lead to the right result. It gets it legitimacy not from the result but from adherence to process. The outcome is not the thing because there are endless variables. That was Comey’s big mistake. He doesn’t actually believe in process and you have to. He replaced process with his judgment, made us vulnerable to his poor judgment, and that’s the mistake he couldn’t correct. That’s where all the other mistakes came from.

  127. 127.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    Weird. Something broke and I find that I have to re-enter nym and info using a mobile browser.

    Oh, well.

  128. 128.

    lollipopguild

    August 5, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    @trollhattan: At the Big Orange Groundhog White House every week is Infrastructure Week.

  129. 129.

    The Dangerman

    August 5, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Probably against Iran but possibly some other country as well.

    I dunno … he seems to have a thing for Venezuela and some odd things are going on down there.

    I’ve been waiting for him to go completely bonkers, try to declare war on Mexico, and mine the border, calling it a horizontal Wall.

    ETA: Oh Oh, Nym save blew up.

  130. 130.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    @The Dangerman: Yeah, it could be any other country. Maybe even an ally if someone like Merkel or Trudeau pisses him off. I think it’ll all just be talk but in the case of Iran, Bolton has had a hard on for war with Iran since forever so he’ll be cheering that on.

  131. 131.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    Vlad’s devious scheme is to simplify into a winning endgame by sacrificing his Shitgibbon & promoting Dense.

    This would indeed be a masterful move. And a Republican Congress would eagerly go along with this.

    Yeah, let’s hope that Mueller has this covered.

  132. 132.

    Gvg

    August 5, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    @CarolDuhart2: I don’t think this is a realistic scenario. Remember the base of the GOP is decidedly anti woman. Also I don’t think the professional party people really like Trump. He has made nothing but trouble for them. I think even the ones that say they are loyal, are lying.
    If Pence resigns, until a replacement VP is designated, Ryan is next in line. I kind do wonder if he won’t choose to not have a vote until his term is almost over. Actually I also think he could be accused of sabatoge by someone if he even does a little due diligence. I like to dream of about a 5 way internal fight over the speakership or VP nomination. Several of them are unrealistically ambitious.

  133. 133.

    J R in WV

    August 5, 2018 at 12:25 pm

    @dnfree:

    No one currently over the age of 66 (just to pick an arbitrary number) should be planning to run in 2020. Go ahead, jump on me.

    As a 67-y-o- retired software junky, I’m jumping on your bandwagon. I’m relatively healthy and active, but I would never undertake to be President of the US unless I was drafted by a majority of both houses of Congress without running, because of my obvious superior intelligence and all around good heart. Haha.

    Seriously, I don’t have the energy to do what would be needing to be done. I think Hillary thought she knew what being President would be like from her vast experience in government, but I also think the job would have killed her much younger than she should go.

  134. 134.

    Ruckus

    August 5, 2018 at 12:26 pm

    @CarolDuhart2:
    Some of us watched Ronnie do the same. But his wife seemed to like him so she did a better job of hiding the obvious.

  135. 135.

    trollhattan

    August 5, 2018 at 12:26 pm

    Proof of life nine hours ahead–we have pics of the kid at Santiago Bernabéu Stadium in Madrid–on the field and in the locker room. Now it’s dinnertime for her while I’m still on morning coffee. Must be discombobulating, but the grins on the girls’ faces indicate they’re coping.

  136. 136.

    Roger Moore

    August 5, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    @Baud:

    It takes 2/3 vote to confirm a new Veep.

    Nope. Simple majority in both houses of Congress. See section 2 of the 25th Amendment:

    Section 2.

    Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

  137. 137.

    Ramiah Ariya

    August 5, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    I don’t understand this – leave legality aside. Trump is saying that they met with a foreign power’s reps to get dirt on an opponent. Then that foreign power releases that “dirt”. Doesn’t that mean Trump agrees with the what the Russians did – both the hacking, and the release of it? Doesn’t that make him a man beholden to the Russian govt?
    How could a country, let alone the lone superpower have such a person as the commander-in-chief? This is the mother of all conflicts of interest, and even if he has committed no “illegality”, how can Congress not try to remove him from power?

  138. 138.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    @Ramiah Ariya: Because Russia played the long game, got a ton of dirt on many elected Republicans in Congress (and some Democrats) and if they vote to remove Trump they risk their treasonous actions becoming public.

  139. 139.

    debbie

    August 5, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    @dnfree:

    Oh, I remember. They traced back and found that a Bush campaigner (Mark McKinney?) had mailed it. His excuse is that he thought he was mailing a package for his daughter, a return to Gap.

  140. 140.

    ruemara

    August 5, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    @CarolDuhart2: girl, what Dem Congress do you envision would be ok with Ivanka being installed? It does not exist. You’re hyperventilating in text. In reference to your first post, try squarespace.

  141. 141.

    hueyplong

    August 5, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    So the GOP could put Meadows in as VP and make the country hesitate to dump Trump.

    Winning the House in November appears to be a life or death thing on many levels.

  142. 142.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 12:48 pm

    LOL.

    Out: "NO COLLUSION!"

    In: "SOME COLLUSION!"

    https://t.co/IsFqNh3u7p— David Frum (@davidfrum) August 5, 2018

  143. 143.

    ruemara

    August 5, 2018 at 12:50 pm

    @WaterGirl: No. This is just PR.

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    Jeff

    August 5, 2018 at 12:52 pm

    I remember when chicken wings were cheap. I used them all the time. I’ve switch to thighs bcuase they aren’t that popular yet.

  145. 145.

    John Carter

    August 5, 2018 at 12:53 pm

    So while the nation collectively watches a reality conspiracy trial and everyone in government is glued to their viewing item of choice and no one is minding the store, is that when Red Dawn takes place?

  146. 146.

    Mai Naem mobile

    August 5, 2018 at 12:53 pm

    @SFAW: tweetsteam is such an appropriate term for Crazypants’ twitterstream.

  147. 147.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    @Yarrow:

    I think he has already gone past that claiming collusion is not crime.

  148. 148.

    Doug R

    August 5, 2018 at 12:59 pm

    @Platonailedit: They were always weird trash, but I think that anthrax attack put them over the edge.

  149. 149.

    Suzanne

    August 5, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    I have so much to do and yet it is about ten thousand degrees outside and I can’t make myself do any of it.

    Car will have to stay dirty, nails will have to remain undone, face will remain peachfuzzy, driveway and front walk unswept, and forget taking SuzMom to the yarn store.

    I just can’t deal with this summer shit.

  150. 150.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    Ted Lieu has been one consistent loud dem voice against the traitorous thug from day one.

    Conspiring with a foreign power to get dirt on an opponent in US elections is a violation of campaign finance laws.

    This tweet by @realDonaldTrump also shows he lied when he drafted the statement about the meeting. It wasn't about Russian adoptions.

    #SundayMorning Thoughts https://t.co/Dp5RYbxYDT— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) August 5, 2018

  151. 151.

    Haroldo

    August 5, 2018 at 1:02 pm

    @J R in WV: Whaddya reckon the median age of this pack of jackals is? I’m 66. I likewise do not possess the energy to function as a president. Hell, given the wages of my misspent youth, I barely have the energy to balance the checkbook.

  152. 152.

    Yarrow

    August 5, 2018 at 1:02 pm

    @Suzanne: August is the worst. It just seems like summer will never be over.

  153. 153.

    Platonailedit

    August 5, 2018 at 1:02 pm

    As the President refers to successful black people as “dumb” Let us remember on this day in 1936 Jesse Owens won Olympic gold in the long jump in fascist Germany in front of Hitler making all Americans proud.

    — Matthew Dowd (@matthewjdowd) August 4, 2018

  154. 154.

    Gretchen

    August 5, 2018 at 1:05 pm

    What part of India are you from? My soon-to-be son-in-law’s family is from Kerala and they seem to eat a lot of seafood.

  155. 155.

    lynn

    August 5, 2018 at 1:07 pm

    Trump only confesses the stuff he has told his attys and thinks Mueller [email protected]Platonailedit:

  156. 156.

    debbie

    August 5, 2018 at 1:09 pm

    @Suzanne:

    So Google tells me. I remember being poolside in Scottsdale in 96 degrees. I didn’t mind it, but I think 97 degrees would have been a bridge too far for this sun addict. I cannot imagine 100+ temperatures. I don’t even think a breeze would help.

  157. 157.

    Roger Moore

    August 5, 2018 at 1:11 pm

    @Ramiah Ariya:

    How could a country, let alone the lone superpower have such a person as the commander-in-chief? This is the mother of all conflicts of interest, and even if he has committed no “illegality”, how can Congress not try to remove him from power?

    Because the Republicans have decided it’s better to collaborate with a foreign enemy than to let their domestic enemies win. Nor is this really new territory. Both Nixon and Reagan cut deals with foreign enemies to help them win their elections. Nixon convinced North Vietnam to hold out in peace talks because he thought the war hurt the Democrats, and Reagan convinced Iran to refuse to release their hostages until after the election. Once might have been a single bad individual. Twice is very suspicious. But when the same party cuts deals with foreign enemies three times to swing the election, it’s a sign they’ve given up on winning fairly and care only about stopping the other party.

  158. 158.

    Roger Moore

    August 5, 2018 at 1:14 pm

    @Yarrow:
    I think you’re cutting the Republicans too much slack. They didn’t decide to betray their country because they were being blackmailed. They decided to betray their country because they’d rather do that then see the Democrats win. The picture in this tweet sums it up nicely:

    This about sums up the Republican party right now. pic.twitter.com/Kh1G3QocZD— Noah Smith (@Noahpinion) August 5, 2018

  159. 159.

    ? Martin

    August 5, 2018 at 1:16 pm

    Uh. Cheap eating as a kid. We spent a few years being properly poor (singlewide, parents skipping meals so I could eat, all that). Jiffy corn bread was a staple. I think a box was $0.05 when you bought them in some kind of quantity. The other was La Choy Chow Mein. Good lord that stuff was vile (I love chow mein today, but – you know, stuff made by people who give a shit), but according to my mom it was nutritionally the best bang for the buck, and (probably due to it’s vileness) she could get it really cheap at some local market. It didn’t help that my mom was (and still is) a terrible cook – for someone who is incredibly smart and conscientious, something happens when she gets around food that causes her to get distracted. That one skipped a generation.

    At the time Entenmanns had a little store where they’d put all the stuff approaching it’s sell-by date, and whatnot, that wasn’t far from where we lived. When we had a little extra some goodies would arrive home.

    I remember when we were on food stamps. I thought they were great – much more colorful than the regular money, and would get all excited in the store when my mom would pay with them. My pointing it out and being excited just made the shame of being on food stamps all the worse.

    But we made it through, with a lot of help from others. I think that’s a big part of why I feel compelled to work in the public sector.

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    Mr.Mack

    August 5, 2018 at 1:17 pm

    Long time lurker and infrequent commentor here… but I have to chime in before this “the olds messed it all up” mindset becomes acceptable to say. The Olds, (I’m 62) vote. Had more younger voters turned up in 2016, and/or, if more of them had actually informed themselves before gravitating to Sanders and Stein, we’d be here, bitching about how the media is treating President Hillary Clinton. Sure, she’d be triangulating a little, maybe too cautious and reckless for us from time to time, but she would have attacked her position like the powerful and intelligent woman she is. She’s a force of nature, and if she had a penis she would be President today. Age should not be a factor to consider…especially when a potential candidate had displayed the type of stamina and overall health as Clinton, Warren, etc. I am truly looking forward to when there are enough younger people at the helm of this huge and diverse Party, and their day will come. I see no reason to think it will come in 2018 or 2020. YMMV.

  161. 161.

    Mr. Mack

    August 5, 2018 at 1:20 pm

    I comment here every five years like clock-work….and I wrote a long paragraph that FYWP has apparently eaten. Damn.

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    Ruckus

    August 5, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    It also signifies that they know their “ideas” are crap and are just in it for the money. Not to sully the good image of whores, but they are all whores, selling out themselves and their country for mostly chump change, just so someone, anyone will like them. And it isn’t working for the most part. As more and more people see who they are and what they are doing their support gets smaller and smaller. Of course there always has been and always will be a not insignificant number of true believers, those who would follow a garbage truck for the left overs and scraps and count themselves lucky.

  163. 163.

    Gravenstone

    August 5, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    @? Martin:

    The other was La Choy Chow Mein

    My stepfather’s parent’s both retired from La Choy. I had more of that shit growing up than should be legal, let alone ethical.

  164. 164.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Nixon convinced North Vietnam to hold out in peace talks because he thought the war hurt the Democrats, and Reagan convinced Iran to refuse to release their hostages until after the election.

    As scummy as this is, it is still not as vile as selling the presidency itself to a foreign power.

    But yeah, it’s funny how the Republicans sell themselves as being more patriotic, and yet they consistently enlist foreign governments to provide aid and comfort.

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    Kristine

    August 5, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    “Please proceed, Mr. President.”

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    Roger Moore

    August 5, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    @Ruckus:

    It also signifies that they know their “ideas” are crap and are just in it for the money.

    I think you’re wrong about this. It’s not so much that they’re a bunch of unprincipled mercenaries as it is that they’ve been lying about what they believe because they’re afraid to state their core beliefs in public. A lot of them are selling out because they’re white supremacists. They’re genuinely worried about their key political issue, and they’re allying themselves with a foreign power that’s fully on board with their key principles.

  167. 167.

    Rand Careaga

    August 5, 2018 at 1:31 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Nixon convinced North Vietnam to hold out in peace talks because he thought the war hurt the Democrats

    South Vietnam.

  168. 168.

    Beth

    August 5, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    Wings are the best part, and always have been! I am so bummed that the delicious, cheap meats I used to get for a song are all ‘discovered’ and expensive now.

    As for wings, we put extra ones on our Thanksgiving turkey so that everyone gets their own crispy treat! It makes the bird look hilarious.

  169. 169.

    Ruckus

    August 5, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    @Brachiator:

    the Republicans sell themselves as being more patriotic

    Well when one thinks more of their traitorous party than the country they live in and when doing so makes them money, people with no scruples will say and do anything. And then try and justify all of their actions, lies and under the table payments. They don’t want to be dishonest (Ok some, Ok a few of them don’t) but they can’t help themselves, they are who they are, the remains of selling what little honor they have, their country, hell everything of any value for pennies on the dollar has made them desperate. They have little time to make this work, they have less skill than required and their hair is on fire. Not a good look. Dangerous yes, but not a good look.

  170. 170.

    WaterGirl

    August 5, 2018 at 1:42 pm

    @Yarrow: Yep, I have no sympathy for them, either. The kids aren’t even kids! JR. is in his 40s, I believe. They play every single angle and it makes me crazy.

  171. 171.

    WaterGirl

    August 5, 2018 at 1:45 pm

    @Mike J: Thank you!

  172. 172.

    Ruckus

    August 5, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    Oh they have principles. Not good principles for sure but they have them. But if they were true believers, they would be violent, they would start wars. (Oh wait, they’ve done that) They don’t want that, they have a reasonable concept (and proof) that they would lose and badly. They seek allies, like Russia, or Vlad actually, who has no scruples about violence because they are chickenshit. They rile up their base, bring out those who are even dumber than them for the power. And the only thing that will protect those morons is that the police is often on their side. Now if you mean the entire right wing then as a group I think you may be right. The leadership of the right? MONEY and money only. Everything else is a con.

  173. 173.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 5, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    @Jeff: Thighs are the best part of the chicken.

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    Suzanne

    August 5, 2018 at 1:58 pm

    @debbie: Per my at-home weather station, it was 97 two hours ago. It will probably approach 110 today, and that is cooler than last week. It’s just so fucking nasty. And to top it off, the garage door opener broke on Friday, so I can’t park my car in my garage. NOT HAPPY.

    No, breeze doesn’t help. It just feels like a hair dryer and brings more dust. Dust which I am, by the way, VERY ALLERGIC TO.

    I HATE ARIZONA AND I HATE SUMMER AND FUCK EVERYONE.

  175. 175.

    pat

    August 5, 2018 at 1:58 pm

    @dnfree:

    No one currently over the age of 66 (just to pick an arbitrary number) should be planning to run in 2020. Go ahead, jump on me.

    My thoughts exactly! Here’s where you can jump on me, I also think it should be a man, who will “look like a president” to the masses…..

  176. 176.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 2:00 pm

    May have been noted already, but this looks like an interesting article/commentary.

    Its subtitle is “The research suggests that when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy.”

    Quelle fucking surprise.

  177. 177.

    dnfree

    August 5, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    @Mr.Mack: I might have thought the same thing when I was 62. Now I’m 72. My generation (oldest baby boomers) had their turn. The presidency ages and wears on a “normal” president. (Not sure about Trump.) Starting a presidency around age 70 is a mistake.

    I’m not saying “the olds messed it up”. I’m saying there’s an age when people are too old to successfully president, regardless of party.

  178. 178.

    SFAW

    August 5, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    @Ruckus:

    The leadership of the right? MONEY and money only.

    Power, too. Because what good is money if you can’t make all those people you hate, do what you want?

  179. 179.

    trollhattan

    August 5, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    @Suzanne:
    Is it the remote or opener motor that’s on the blink? You should be able to open it manually–pull the handle and roll it up.

    Can’t help you with Arizona. I’ve been to Phoenix in August and it was the most comically awful weather I’ve ever experienced. How can it be 118 and rain on the same day? Why is that legal?

    We have 100, ash and smoke, which I heartily disrecommend.

  180. 180.

    debbie

    August 5, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    @Mr. Mack:

    It’s showing. This is the new American Way: Blame everyone else.

  181. 181.

    debbie

    August 5, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    @trollhattan:

    You’re exactly right: How can this summer weather be legal? Where can I go to sue?

  182. 182.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    @Ruckus:

    Well when one thinks more of their traitorous party than the country they live in and when doing so makes them money, people with no scruples will say and do anything.

    It’s not just about money. It’s about power.

    Republicans see themselves as the sole legitimate political party in the US. Whatever they do is acceptable because they see it as necessary to keep America out of the hands of those they deem unfit to govern. Which, of course, is anybody who is not them.

  183. 183.

    Another Scott

    August 5, 2018 at 2:06 pm

    @Mr.Mack: +1

    Dorothy Rodham lived to be 92.

    Obama signed the PPACA on March 23, 2010. Nancy Pelosi was 3 days short of her 70th birthday then.

    I’m all for having more younger people active in politics and having leadership positions. We need a deep bench. But we shouldn’t have arbitrary ages for candidates.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  184. 184.

    trollhattan

    August 5, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    @debbie:
    “Lock it up! Lock it up! Lock it up! Lock it up! Lock it up! ”

    Feel free to lose the key, also, too.

  185. 185.

    sukabi

    August 5, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    @John Carter: yes, and as proof Russia just appointed Steven Seagal as goodwill ambassador to the US.

  186. 186.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    @Another Scott:

    I’m all for having more younger people active in politics and having leadership positions. We need a deep bench. But we shouldn’t have arbitrary ages for candidates.

    You mean like requiring a member of Congress to be at least age 25, or that a president be at least age 35?

    I don’t think a maximum age should be specified, but I am not interested in seeing a senior citizen president. And yeah, I will pander to the youth if it means getting more of them to the polls and voting for a Democrat.

  187. 187.

    Tokyokie

    August 5, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    @debbie: It was a woman who worked for Mark McKinnon. an asshole I know from college. I always figured Rove and McKinnon thought leaving the debate book as bait for the Gore campaign was a master stroke of genius, but then Rove made sure someone who worked for McKinnon carried out the mailing, so he could isolate McKinnon, who’d previously worked for Democrats, from Shrub. McKinnon, not satisfied with helping to pave the way for the annihilation of millions of Iraqis, is now working the No Labels con.

  188. 188.

    burnspbesq

    August 5, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    he seems to have a thing for Venezuela

    Indeed. Has Maduro blamed the failed drone “assassination attempt” on Trump yet?

  189. 189.

    Another Scott

    August 5, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    @Brachiator: Imagine I typed “new, maximum” before “arbitrary ages for candidates.”

    ;-)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  190. 190.

    trollhattan

    August 5, 2018 at 2:21 pm

    @Another Scott:
    Jerry 2.0, too.

    I thought that Obama’s presidency represented a passing of the generational torch and Donny the Lesser sure proved that wrong. But like Bob Dole signaling the end of the WWII generaton’s role in national politics, Trump signals the end of…something.

  191. 191.

    trollhattan

    August 5, 2018 at 2:23 pm

    @burnspbesq:
    Pretty sure they have. Bolton was saying “no, not us” today and yet other press maintains it was a propane explosion and nothing more.

    Maduro must love that “his” military scattered when it happened.

  192. 192.

    Suzanne

    August 5, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Is it the remote or opener motor that’s on the blink? You should be able to open it manually–pull the handle and roll it up.

    Can’t help you with Arizona. I’ve been to Phoenix in August and it was the most comically awful weather I’ve ever experienced. How can it be 118 and rain on the same day? Why is that legal?

    I just attempted a task outside (cleaning out the car and taking out the trash). It is 107. Should be 111 all afternoon.

    The garage door seems to be a problem with the motor. We got a new opener a couple of years ago and it should be under warranty, so it’s not a financial crisis, just another thing to deal with (I haven’t even gotten to tell y’all about the fucking leaky plumbing that caused MOLD and is resulting in almost a complete renovation of the upper floor of my house this summer).

    BUT IT’S HOT IT’S SO HOT I CAN’T DEAL.

    And now for the first of what will be likely multiple showers today.

  193. 193.

    Ruckus

    August 5, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    @SFAW:
    If they had enough money, they could buy the people they hate or at least pay to have them silenced.
    Money is everything, everything/everybody is for sale, you don’t think so, just look at them.

  194. 194.

    Ruckus

    August 5, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    @Brachiator:
    I’m thinking more of them might actually vote if they had any idea that the people getting elected and running the country weren’t older than their grandparents.

    ETA older than their grandparents. Or me.

  195. 195.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 5, 2018 at 2:56 pm

    @Gretchen: I am assuming this question is for me. Further up the west coast, Mumbai.

  196. 196.

    debbie

    August 5, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    @Tokyokie:

    Thanks for the clarification.

  197. 197.

    WhatsMyNym

    August 5, 2018 at 3:17 pm

    @Roger Moore: I would have said both of those men were of recent Russian ancestry or a nearby country.

  198. 198.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    @Mr. Mack:

    For future reference: Did your comment just disappear or did you get a message saying it had gone into moderation? I believe pen­is is currently still a bad word, which gets you moderation. In any case, that comment seems to have appeared.

    ETA: Also, FYWP probably saw “Mr.Mack” as a new nym, different from “Mr. Mack.”

  199. 199.

    Dan B

    August 5, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    @Suzanne: Big article in the NYT (not the FY when they do this) about the heat in Europe this year. Swiss cows dying of thirst. Salt water coming through dikes in the Netherlands. England importing 30,000 heads of lettuce from California in one weekend. No mention of heat worldwide, let alone Arizona.

  200. 200.

    Brachiator

    August 5, 2018 at 5:14 pm

    @Dan B:

    No mention of heat worldwide, let alone Arizona.

    There have been articles about worldwide heat problems all over the place.

    WaPo story: Japan soars to its highest temperature ever recorded: 106 degrees

    Earlier, my sister clued be in to an elegant story about a system originating in Africa which brought record temperatures to the US.

    It’s been a scorcher in a lot of places.

  201. 201.

    Mr. Mack

    August 5, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    @Steeplejack: Yeah it just went poof! Later, I realized I used the dreaded “P” word, and I think you’re right, I got moderated…Then I had to put my name in again, and it’s been the same for what…ten years?

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