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Wednesday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  August 8, 20188:11 pm| 185 Comments

This post is in: Get off my grass you damned kids

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I just read some of the comments from the post below and I would like to state that you all suck and I never liked any of you.

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  1. 1.

    Nicole

    August 8, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    Whatever. I like you and I like this blog and THERE’S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. SO PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT.

    Also, I didn’t read the other thread. I’m going to go do that now.

  2. 2.

    jacy

    August 8, 2018 at 8:17 pm

    You mean you don’t read all the comments? On your own blog?

    I AM SHOCKED.

  3. 3.

    TenguPhule

    August 8, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    We are your penance for your earlier years of being a Republican, John.

    Your eternal penance.

  4. 4.

    The Dangerman

    August 8, 2018 at 8:20 pm

    Hey, no pu$$y footing around.

  5. 5.

    batguano

    August 8, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    People just don’t have proper respect for jalapeno strips & fish tacos

  6. 6.

    Chetan Murthy

    August 8, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    Damn, that is some primo photoshop there, blogfather.

  7. 7.

    Brachiator

    August 8, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    Cole, you funny guy.

    It’s amazing how eager some Republicans are to follow Trump’s lead and make nice with Putin. Are Putin’s pockets really that deep?

    From a USA Today story about Rand Paul delivering a letter to the Russian leader.

    “I was honored to deliver a letter from President Trump to President Vladimir Putin’s administration,” the Kentucky Republican announced on Twitter. “The letter emphasized the importance of further engagement in various areas including countering terrorism, enhancing legislative dialogue and resuming cultural exchanges.”

  8. 8.

    nwerner

    August 8, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    I haven’t seen such bluster and acrimony since the Moraz vs. Wakeman debate of 1993.

  9. 9.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    August 8, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    Ehh, looks next enough to me. I do know about these amazing pointless arguments though. My favorites were the ones I sometimes heard between my wife’s mother and grandmother about what color something was. One would say something somebody was wearing was pink and the other would say it was peach, and, Lord, they’d just go at it, back and forth, like they were debating in Congress. I really never understood that, but it was fun as hell to watch, since I had no dog in any of those desperate fights.

  10. 10.

    Miss Bianca

    August 8, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    @batguano:

    People just don’t have proper respect for jalapeno strips & fish tacos

    Man, that sounds like a great combo to me!

    Now, off to read the other thread to discover what we’ve done *this time* to to merit the BlogFather’s disapproval…//

  11. 11.

    JPL

    August 8, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    @Nicole: It’s Bqhatevwr. just sayin

  12. 12.

    Mary G

    August 8, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    Kansas.com explains that Kris Kobach feels no need to recuse himself from the recount of his own primary race for governor.

    Colyer has the right to request that Kobach’s office initiate a recount if he still trails after counties tabulate provisional ballots and mail-in ballots postmarked by the deadline.

    The governor also would also have to file a bond with Kobach’s office to cover the cost of a recount, at a price set by Kobach. If a candidate wins following a recount, no action would be taken on the bond.

    Mark Johnson, a Kansas City attorney with experience in election law, said Kobach’s role in setting the cost is the primary reason why he should recuse himself. He said Kobach should cede this authority to a deputy.

    “Secretary Kobach should not decide that. That is a conflict, in my opinion. To that extent, the secretary is directly involved in the recount process. … He could set the bond so high that no one could afford that,” said Johnson, who was a member of the team that defeated Kobach in federal court earlier this year in a case that overturned a Kansas voting restriction.

    There is nothing whatsoever that causes Republicans to feel shame, example ten zillion.

  13. 13.

    Josie

    August 8, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    Strangely enough, John Cole, that’s pretty much the attitude my 2 1/2 year old granddaughter displayed a while ago when everyone was paying more attention to the baby than to her.

  14. 14.

    Mai Naem mobile

    August 8, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    YOU BETTER TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW COLE!
    Is that Steve BTW? That is awesome if it is.

  15. 15.

    grumbles

    August 8, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    I’m pleased to see John is back in form. He was being a little earnest there for a bit – I was starting to think he actually gave a damn for a minute there.

  16. 16.

    Roger Moore

    August 8, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    @Brachiator:

    It’s amazing how eager some Republicans are to follow Trump’s lead and make nice with Putin. Are Putin’s pockets really that deep?

    I think they’re hoping for some help in their next reelection campaign.

  17. 17.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 8, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    I would like to state that you all suck and I never liked any of you.

    Yeah, we know…(sobs uncontrollably).

  18. 18.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    Cole, did you edit that photo to make it look like we are getting the middle finger? Made me laugh, and I am impressed with your skills.

    Please let the record show that I did not engage in the piling on from the last thread, no matter how deserved.

  19. 19.

    Chetan Murthy

    August 8, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    b/c OT: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-brock-turner-sexual-assault-appeal-20180808-story.html

    It’s not enough, and it’s not enough, and it’s not enough. But it’s better than the worst outcome.

  20. 20.

    jimmiraybob

    August 8, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    The scientist in me says that you blew it. The casual direction giver in me says spot on.

  21. 21.

    Raven

    August 8, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    The power is out in our neighborhood. They say at least an hour!

  22. 22.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    My mom has been gone for 33 years. Enjoy your little spat, Cole, we all know how much you love your mom.

  23. 23.

    Ruviana

    August 8, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): In one of the classes I teach we talk about cultural and gendered perceptions of colors. The male students are always entertained by the arguments that break out among the female students as to whether a color is lavender, periwinkle, or lilac.

  24. 24.

    different-church-lady

    August 8, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    If you don’t like answers, don’t ask questions.

  25. 25.

    Raven

    August 8, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    Those ain’t jalapeños

  26. 26.

    low-tech cyclist

    August 8, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    I would like to state that you all suck and I never liked any of you.

    That’s OK, we don’t like you either and you suck even more. But with Betty and Anne and Tom and David and Cheryl and Adam and this really Major dude and whoever else is on the front page these days, we can’t resist hanging around here anyway, providing a supply of anthropes for you to be misanthropic to. So it all works out.

  27. 27.

    Shana

    August 8, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    @Ruviana: well to be fair most of them are probably color blind

  28. 28.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    Totally OT, I had my first session with the new physical therapist yesterday. (The other one wasn’t very good, I could do his exercises in my sleep and I wasn’t getting any better.) I’m really struggling with the exercises from the new person, so I finally have hope again that I will be able to walk normally again.

    My balance after the broken ankle is laughably bad – truly unbelievably bad. Pathetic. Apparently that’s quite normal, and no matter how much I mentioned it, he didn’t address it. If it wasn’t my ankle – literally – then it wasn’t his problem. It’s been quite discouraging. 10 years of PT experience – that guy should have come with a warning label.

  29. 29.

    Brachiator

    August 8, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    @Ruviana: Isn’t some of this more about recognition of differences in shades of color. Like off white vs bone?

  30. 30.

    EBT

    August 8, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    Once again, a fucking adorable cat I live with. https://twitter.com/norintha/status/1027041572305756161
    If you are blocked it’s from my overzealous use of block chain on someone you follow. Just tell me your name and I can unblock you.

  31. 31.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    August 8, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    O.K., Chris Hayes is talking about how three random dudes who belong to Deadbeat Donnie’s shitty club have been running the V.A. for the last year and a half. I don’t even know what to say about this. It’s some random doctor, some random lawyer and some random movie company owner who sit around at this golf club and have V.A. people head down to Florida to answer to them. The congressmen on the committees that oversee the V.A. didn’t know about this. I guess the only thing we don’t yet know is what these three guys were getting out of this and how much it’s been worth to them.

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    @Raven: I wondered about that, too. They would have to be double-gigantic jalapeños, and even then they are the wrong shape. Cole probably asked for jalapeños and they just gave him whatever peppers they had in the kitchen.

  33. 33.

    Raven

    August 8, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    @WaterGirl: I didn’t read the thread, did anybody else mention it?

  34. 34.

    Raven

    August 8, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    @WaterGirl: plus she’s a Bulldog!

  35. 35.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 8, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    @Raven: Pretty much no.

  36. 36.

    Ruviana

    August 8, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    @Shana: Lol, you’re probably right!

  37. 37.

    Raven

    August 8, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I mean they are obviously bell peppers.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    @Raven: Nope!

  39. 39.

    HinTN

    August 8, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    BlogFather’s disapproval

    Opprobrium, please.

  40. 40.

    Ruviana

    August 8, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    @Brachiator: Perhaps, but this would prompt an argument from the women and bemused silence from the men. Or something like, “It’s all white. Don’t worry about it.”

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    @Raven: Perhaps it runs in the family?

  42. 42.

    kindness

    August 8, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    I wanna teach my cats how to do that. Getting them to learn photoshop might be tough though.

    Well played, John. Well played.

  43. 43.

    low-tech cyclist

    August 8, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    @Ruviana:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): In one of the classes I teach we talk about cultural and gendered perceptions of colors. The male students are always entertained by the arguments that break out among the female students as to whether a color is lavender, periwinkle, or lilac.

    Of course we are. We guys only have to know the names of, and be able to distinguish, a very limited number of colors.

    How many? Fourteen, plus the colors of the teams we root for.

    The three that exist for you even if you’re color-blind (black, white, grey)
    The six primary and secondary colors (red, yellow, blue, orange, green, and purple)
    The colors of money (gold, silver, copper)
    The oddballs (brown, pink)

    That’s it. We might well know what turquoise or maroon look like, but we don’t have to. Let alone crap like fuchsia (thank goodness for spell-check) or ecru. Thank goodness.

  44. 44.

    germy

    August 8, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    Just got back from a screening of “The Spy Who Dumped Me” and Edward Snowden (at least an actor portraying him, filmed in low light from the back) plays a tiny role.

  45. 45.

    Ruviana

    August 8, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    @low-tech cyclist: Lol, I might actually use that if I teach the class again!

  46. 46.

    Roger Moore

    August 8, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    @Shana:

    well to be fair most of them are probably color blind

    I don’t think this is about color blindness; I think it really is about cultural factors. Men can have very good color perception (for example, I aced this color perception test) but not know or care about the names for colors they can easily distinguish. Women are encouraged to care more about color, particularly as it relates to fashion, and to learn names for all the slightly different shades. If the men are bemused by women arguing about what to call a color, it may be because they don’t think it’s worth arguing about, not because they can’t perceive the difference.

  47. 47.

    germy

    August 8, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    13 Colors Humans Can’t Even Imagine Can Be Seen By Shrimps

  48. 48.

    Roger Moore

    August 8, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    I guess the only thing we don’t yet know is what these three guys were getting out of this and how much it’s been worth to them.

    The thing we really don’t know is what other parts of the government have been treated the same way. If Trump lets his customers at Mar-a-Loco run the VA, it’s a good bet he lets them run other branches of the government he doesn’t care about, too.

  49. 49.

    TomatoQueen

    August 8, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Obligatory :https://youtu.be/8I9obySo80Y

  50. 50.

    satby

    August 8, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Atten jackals near St. Louis: my rescue got an adoption application on our little deaf kitten today from someone down that way. If it’s one of you, or someone you know, please let me know, thanks!

  51. 51.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    August 8, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    @Roger Moore: Also, they would fight about all kinds of other random, meaningless–to me at least–shit. The colors seemed to get them the most heated, but they’d fight about whether we’d had chicken for dinner last week on Wednesday or Thursday evening. They were as invested in this as they would have been if they’d been debating whether to take the country to war. I’d just sit back and watch.

  52. 52.

    Calouste

    August 8, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    @low-tech cyclist: If black, white, red, yellow, and blue were good enough for Mondrian, they are good enough for anybody.

  53. 53.

    chopper

    August 8, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    i like how you put up this post right next to the other one, cole.

  54. 54.

    Mike J

    August 8, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    @Ruviana: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s33ScN4D-HU

  55. 55.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    Quick drive to the bank and back. Gas prices in the neighborhood now up to $4.12 for regular, $4.42 for hi-test.

  56. 56.

    Miss Bianca

    August 8, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    @HinTN: And you would know, as you got some personal opprobrium, didn’t you? ; )

  57. 57.

    Brachiator

    August 8, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    @Ruviana: Recently in Southern California, men calling in to talk radio argued endlessly about the proper shade of blue of LA Charger uniforms (they were usurping Dodger Blue). It’s more context and gender than gender alone.

    ETA. There were women calling in too, but the callers (as opposed to all listeners) skew heavily male.

  58. 58.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    August 8, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    @Roger Moore: I took the test, too, and I got a perfect score!

  59. 59.

    Brachiator

    August 8, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    @germy: RE: Just got back from a screening of “The Spy Who Dumped Me”…

    Did you like the movie?

  60. 60.

    dexwood

    August 8, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    @NotMax:
    Ouch. I poured in $20 at 2.49 today. Perhaps I should top off tomorrow.

  61. 61.

    Roger Moore

    August 8, 2018 at 9:11 pm

    @germy:
    IIRC, it turns out mantis shrimp don’t have particularly good color perception. We get our color perception by looking at differences in response between color receptors with different spectral sensitivities. If something gives a stronger response in the red cone than the adjacent green cone and weakest in the blue cone, we perceive it as orange. The most current thinking is that the mantis shrimp have a bunch of color receptors so they can skip the comparison step. That lets them respond to different colors very rapidly- they can skip a bunch of neural processing steps- but means their color perception isn’t that great. That speed is really important because they’re predators who rely on rapid reactions when hunting.

  62. 62.

    Raven

    August 8, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    @dexwood: He’s On Maui .

  63. 63.

    dexwood

    August 8, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    @Raven:
    Thanks. Explains much.

  64. 64.

    zhena gogolia

    August 8, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    I just bailed on Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy and went back and read that thread. It is a classic, on a par with the faxed credenzas.

  65. 65.

    Raven

    August 8, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    West Virginia House Panel Votes To Impeach Entire Supreme Court

    “West Virginia’s House Judiciary Committee has adopted articles of impeachment against all four justices on the state’s Supreme Court of Appeals, accusing the judges of a range of crimes and throwing the court’s immediate future into disarray.”

  66. 66.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    Seems like as good a place as any to repeat something from early this a.m.

    Snapped a pic of the awning of an apartment house in Mom’s neighborhood, the name of which always evokes a small grin when I pass by. (Site where have uploaded the pic rotates it 90 degrees; sorry ’bout that.)

    Imagining the scene: (takes long drag from bong) “Dude, you gotta get an apartment there!”

    :)

  67. 67.

    EBT

    August 8, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    @Roger Moore: They punch at the speed of a .22 if the documentary I saw is correct.

  68. 68.

    jl

    August 8, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    “I would like to state that you all suck and I never liked any of you.”
    We knew that.
    But a general condemnation from Cole is rare these days, so I checked out the previous post.
    I guess I’ll leave well-enough alone, other than to say Cole’s mom is right.

    Thanks for stock photo petpix Cole. Good thing most cat’s can’d do that, otherwise they would not be fit for a full-service family blog.

  69. 69.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    @Ruviana: Hey, get off my back. I have color deficiency (a mild color blindness); I can see the 14 important color (my team’s colors are green and gold so I am good to go), but I sometimes perceive shades differently. If something is on the blue-green spectrum, I may perceive it as more green than blue whereas 99% of people would see it the other way. I tend not to be adventurous with color in my clothing choices.

  70. 70.

    Brachiator

    August 8, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    @Roger Moore: Fun test. Got a perfect score. I took a couple of art classes in college that dealt with shade and color, so I guess I remembered what I had learned.

  71. 71.

    jl

    August 8, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    Can’t edit my comment, so please correct the typos in your heads.
    Speaking of cats, on my ‘puter, the edit screen has turned into an inaccessible Cheshire Cat sort of thing. I’d complain, but so far I’ve enjoyed looking at if fade in and out, hide behind things and then jump out in front and do its various tricks.

    Edit: OK, open in a new window works. I guess I missed some instructions on it.

  72. 72.

    Pogonip

    August 8, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    4 in a row from this John Cole guy. He sure has a lot to say.

  73. 73.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    August 8, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: My son is red-green color blind. He told me he read that mothers of men with color blindness may have extra color perception. I don’t know how I would know if I had that or not.

  74. 74.

    khead

    August 8, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    I’m just glad to see a main street in WV where the buildings aren’t empty and boarded up.

  75. 75.

    germy

    August 8, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    @Brachiator: It was my wife’s idea, but I found myself enjoying it. Funny, fast moving, smart. A good movie.

  76. 76.

    lamh36

    August 8, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    NEW: @Maddow obtained secret audio of Devin Nunes speaking at an event for Cathy McMorris Rogers, where he admits there is still an active (secret) effort to impeach Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, & that House Republicans plan to revive it after the Senate confirms Trump’s SCOTUS pick

    https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/1027363881914720259?s=21

  77. 77.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 8, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    @chopper:

    i like how you put up this post right next to the other one, cole.

    It’s good to be King.

  78. 78.

    Another Scott

    August 8, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    In other news, Reuters:

    U.S. senator says Russians have penetrated Florida election systems: Tampa Bay Times
    Reuters Staff

    (Reuters) – Russian operatives have penetrated some of Florida’s election systems and could delete registered voters ahead of the November elections if the systems are not adequately protected, Florida U.S. Senator Bill Nelson told the Tampa Bay Times on Wednesday.

    “They have already penetrated certain counties in the state and they now have free rein to move about,” Nelson told the newspaper, which posted an audio recording of the interview on its website.

    Democrat Nelson and Republican Senator Marco Rubio of Florida wrote a letter last month to the state’s 67 county election supervisors about potential threats, the newspaper said. But that letter lacked the specificity Nelson has laid out, according to the Times.

    “We were requested by the chairman and vice chairman of the (Senate) Intelligence Committee to let supervisors of election in Florida know that the Russians are in their records,” Nelson told the newspaper.

    […]

    Vlad and his minions aren’t giving up. We can’t either.

    89 days to go…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  79. 79.

    Amir Khalid

    August 8, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    A propos of nothing at all, Tori Amos is a musical genius.
    I spent a few minutes last night re-doing the set-up on Lady that I’d paid good money for at the music store. I should have stopped the fat little toad at the store when he cleaned the maple fretboard with lemon oil, which you ONLY PUT ON AN UNFINISHED ROSEWOOD FRETBOARD. I should have said something when he forgot to set a radius on the string bed to match the fretboard’s radius of curvature, which a guy should know to do if he’s really been setting up guitars for ten bloody years. I should have said something about him setting the treble side of the pickups almost flush with the pickguard while the bass side was half a centimetre higher, or about the rattling noise from the G string. All of which I had to fix myself. Harrumph.

  80. 80.

    geg6

    August 8, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    Anybody watching Rachel? The tape of Nunes speaking at a closed fund raiser for Cathy McMorris Rogers is something else.

  81. 81.

    Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)

    August 8, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    @lamh36: And Nunes basically came right out and said Republicans are all about impeding Mueller’s investigation. Lovely.

  82. 82.

    lamh36

    August 8, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    @lamh36:

    WOAH. In a secret recording obtained by @Maddow, Devin Nunes (House intel chairman) is speaking about why it’s so important for House Republicans to keep the majority, and he flatly admits:

    “If Sessions won’t un-recuse and Mueller wont clear the president, we’re the only ones.”

    https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/1027364972446314496?s=21

  83. 83.

    Pogonip

    August 8, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: My brother’s red/green color blind. I have had several eye doctors tell me this only manifests in the male but I think Mom was at least somewhat color blind because she would wear the weirdest color combinations.

  84. 84.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Color blindness/deficiency is often correlated with good night vision – which I have.

  85. 85.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    @Amir Khalid

    First read that as Tori Avey and was confoozled.

    :)

  86. 86.

    germy

    August 8, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    In b&w film, red photographs black.

    Which is why Harpo switched to a light blonde wig for the movies. On stage (and on one late-career color film) his wig was red.

  87. 87.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    August 8, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I think this is what my son was talking about.

  88. 88.

    germy

    August 8, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    @lamh36: If that isn’t obstruction of justice, I don’t know what is.

  89. 89.

    Amir Khalid

    August 8, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    It might not necessarily be you. Different cultures divide the colours up differently, so that the green/blue can be placed differently in different countries. If you’ve ever been in Japan, you’ll notice (or not) that the green in their traffic lights is a bluer shade than it is in other countries.

  90. 90.

    MobileForkbeard

    August 8, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    @lamh36: If Mueller wont clear the president, it’s because the President is GUILTY. This should be hung around the neck of every republican.

  91. 91.

    MobileForkbeard

    August 8, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    @germy: Right? Its textbook “If he’s guilty, we can make sure there’s no consequences.”

  92. 92.

    Platonailedit

    August 8, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    My colleague @jolingkent at NBC Nightly News has been asking @jack for an interview for, no joke, five years.

    He's going on Hannity today.

    This is getting ridiculous.

    — Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) August 8, 2018

    ugh, still fucked up login.

  93. 93.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 9:37 pm

    @Amir Khalid

    MacArthur’s Park is melting in the dark
    All the sweet blue icing flowing down

    :)

  94. 94.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 8, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    @NotMax: In LA MacArthur Park isn’t a cake.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    @NotMax: I filled up today and it was $37. It hasn’t been that high in a few years. Trump is an excellent negotiator!

  96. 96.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    @Amir Khalid: No, this first manifested when I was a child and my mom told me to wear my green hat. And I insisted no such hat existed. When she handed it to me, I said “That’s my blue hat.” And so to the doctor we went. No cultural differences. It is my perception.

    Hey, I got the almost cat-like night vision as a compensation.

  97. 97.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 8, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @WaterGirl: $3.40 at Costco this afternoon.

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    germy

    August 8, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    I’ve been DMing with @jack about his bizarre need to verify white supremacists on his platform for the last 8 months or so, and after all the exchanges, I’ve reached a conclusion: the dude simply does not seem to give a fuck.
    — Seth Rogen (@Sethrogen) July 3, 2018

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    TenguPhule

    August 8, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I tend not to be adventurous with color in my clothing choices.

    50 Shades of Grey?

  100. 100.

    Mary G

    August 8, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @Roger Moore: I thought I had good color vision, but I got an 8 on the test and it says my green/blue vision is lousy. Apparently the reddish one was good. I also took a bunch of college art courses and have been complimented on my ability with color. I have decided to blame my monitor.

  101. 101.

    Alain the site fixer

    August 8, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    FYI folks, I know about the edit comment issues, especially on the mobile site. I’ll take a look again in the morning with some fresh inspiration. I’d hoped to solve the comment box issues that remain first, but today has been all about estate stuff – financial, legal, inventory. accounting, etc. Lots of great, good, groovy stuff. I just wish I had a good hill to dump some garbage over (joking!).

    Have a good evening to all, try the (fake meat!) burgers – I will be experimenting Thursday lunch!

  102. 102.

    Amir Khalid

    August 8, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    @WaterGirl:
    They do say that if Donald had just sat on the seed money his dad Fred gave him, he’d be a for-reals billionaire today, with a bigger shitload of actual money than he has ever claimed, and not in hock to the Russians.

  103. 103.

    gene108

    August 8, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @Ruviana:

    This chart nicely summarizes how men and women see colors

  104. 104.

    TenguPhule

    August 8, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @MobileForkbeard:

    This should be hung around the neck of every republican.

    Hemp rope has more weight.

  105. 105.

    Alain the site fixer

    August 8, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    @Alain the site fixer: FYI Use escape key to cancel edit comment travesty. I’m not sure why it’s gone crazy, but I will kick itz azz tomorrow.

  106. 106.

    Ruviana

    August 8, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I will add you to my collection of colorblind men. Yes, I have one.

  107. 107.

    Alain the site fixer

    August 8, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    @Amir Khalid: please email me if you want access to test site, you’re one of a few I’d like early input from.

  108. 108.

    TenguPhule

    August 8, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    @Ruviana:

    I will add you to my collection of colorblind men. Yes, I have one.

    With Omnes you now have two!

  109. 109.

    Calouste

    August 8, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    @germy: Jack is the CEO of Twhiter I assume?

  110. 110.

    Jim Parish

    August 8, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    I teach a course in advanced geometry every fall. A few years ago, I was telling them about a certain configuration of circles. The circles fell into two groups in a natural way, and so, in the slide displaying the configuration, I made one set red and the other green for maximum contrast.

    Unknown to me, one of my students was red-green colorblind.

    Fortunately, the two sets could also be distinguished by position, so he got the gist of the discussion.

  111. 111.

    TenguPhule

    August 8, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    @Alain the site fixer: The site is starting to freeze up so that the comment box bottom half isn’t loading, just thought you’d like to know. Had to refresh twice to get there.

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    Brachiator

    August 8, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    RE: Colors. I think a couple of times I had a 64 count box of Crayola Crayons and would use as many different colors as I could, and blend them to get even more.

    Burnt Umber, muthafuckas…

  113. 113.

    tobie

    August 8, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    @germy: Who is Jack? I feel like this is another chapter of pop culture I’ve missed out on.

  114. 114.

    Ruviana

    August 8, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    @NotMax: I always thought it was “sweet cream icing.”

  115. 115.

    Amir Khalid

    August 8, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    @Alain the site fixer:
    Okay.

  116. 116.

    Ruviana

    August 8, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: And I always thought the cake was IN McArthur Park. (L.A. girl here.)

  117. 117.

    Alain the site fixer

    August 8, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    @TenguPhule: Ugh. Thank you, I’ll rebuild the cache.

    Final note, On the Road will be back, we’re just doing a lot of changes and I have only so much time to work on things. I miss it and know many do, too. I’ll post about that soon, but now I’ve got to go pull enchiladas from the oven and put out the trash and recycling.

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    Jeffro

    August 8, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    Two things:

    1) Had lunch with a friend today, discussing mostly non-political things, and at the end we were talking about the off-the-looking-glass, through-the-map nature of these past two years. Friend goes, “You know, I’m almost there thinking that the Russians actually changed the voting, you know, hacked the voter tallies and everything”. And I felt this rush of IT. DOESN’T. MATTER – the man was unfit when he went after the Khans, when he confessed to sexual assault on tape, when he’s been nothing but a racist his whole life. And there’s been enough Russia material out there for two years now…it’s clear that some of us *cough* have been right all along.

    But I was like, “yeah, that could be it, certainly they did everything else for him…I guess the big deal now is to get out and vote in November, eh?” Fortunately, he agreed. Just weird that anyone left of Genghis Khan could even think that the weirdest, worst-case scenarios with Trumpov & Co are “almost there” for consideration – just consider the worst, period, and you’ll be right more often than not.

    2) I just got started reading Ben Rhodes’ book The World As It Is tonight (after blitzing through The Last Policeman these past two days…fascinating to see such a close-in take on PBO. Will probably offer more thoughts on the book and the Obama years in a week or two once I’m done.

  119. 119.

    Amir Khalid

    August 8, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    @Brachiator:
    In H2G2, Douglas Adams refers to the colour “Burnt Hombre” …

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    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    @TenguPhule

    Then again, there’s this stuff. (.pdf link, as all the html pages on the actual Oak Ridge site are showing up as 404 errors for some reason).

    ;)

  121. 121.

    chris

    August 8, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    @tobie: CEO of Twitter

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    CapnMubbers

    August 8, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    @gene108: cannot see chart, link doesn’t work.

  123. 123.

    tobie

    August 8, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    @chris: thanks!

  124. 124.

    Ruckus

    August 8, 2018 at 9:59 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
    Probably not getting all that much out of it other than they get to fuck with people they don’t know and think are stupid because they couldn’t figure out a way to avoid military service. And also they get to show how much they don’t know about everything. (That may not be a plus for them….) We’d like to think there’s more to it than that, but I’d bet there isn’t.

  125. 125.

    Jeffro

    August 8, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    @germy: “Jack” went on Hannity tonight to defend himself…despite having been asked to go on NBC News for the past year or so

    He knows who…or rather, whose allies…pay his bills

  126. 126.

    Jersey Tomato

    August 8, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    @nwerner: Wakeman all the way.

  127. 127.

    Amir Khalid

    August 8, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA):
    Nunes just put the Republican Congressional caucus in Special Counsel Mueller’s line of fire. Der Müller Gottes mahlt langsam, aber mahlt außerordentlich klein.

  128. 128.

    Steeplejack

    August 8, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Bummer about the old guy. Hope you’re on the right road now. Happy healing!

  129. 129.

    Ruckus

    August 8, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    @NotMax:
    Unocal station on my way home, in Pasadena, regular is $4.69. About a mile away another Unocal station regular is $3.59. People were pulling into the first station. I have no idea why.
    Probably for the same irrational reason for the truck I saw on the way home. Brand new Chevy dually diesel pickup. Jacked up, rear wheels sticking outside the already wide fenders about 6 in/side, with those very long shinny, pointed lug nut covers on the front wheels that are about 3 in long. He was rolling coal a couple of blocks ahead of me when I first spotted him. I’m thinking moron but it’s possible that he hasn’t evolved that far.

  130. 130.

    Mnemosyne

    August 8, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    @Ruviana:

    Lavender is true purple in a lighter shade, perwinkle leans blue, and lilac leans pink.

    What’s the argument?

    Actually, if you really want to mess with people, let them in on a little secret: color is relative, and the same color will look different depending on what other colors you combine it with.

  131. 131.

    Amir Khalid

    August 8, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    @WaterGirl:
    Is your insurance paying for this therapist? Maybe you could complain to them, or to the hospital that referred you to him.

  132. 132.

    The Midnight Lurker

    August 8, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    Holy shit! I just saw Maddow’s piece on what David Nunes said at a GOP fundraiser. (Paraphrasing here) “If we don’t stop Mueller – this all goes away.”

  133. 133.

    Drunkenhausfrau

    August 8, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    Dear GOD (FSM or whatever) this is why I LOVE you all! Thank you for keeping me sane. The tacos place is clearly next to the barber, ?

  134. 134.

    The Midnight Lurker

    August 8, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    Mr. Cole… they don’t like me either. But you should hear the things they say about you!

  135. 135.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    @WaterGirl: Valdivia took almost a year before she could walk normally after she broke her ankle. She is about 18 months out now and she still has issues if she is one her feet too long. By which, I mean to say it can be a long road. Bon chance.

  136. 136.

    Mary G

    August 8, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    Wow, they’re not even pretending any more:

    Russian media published a draft of a bill (S.3336) that was introduced in the US Senate on Aug. 1. The bill pertains to NATO, cybercrime, & Russian sanctions…. it's still not avail. on any US govt websites. It appears *someone* leaked it. To Russia. https://t.co/n9RNcRGRp9 https://t.co/78wRihubzZ— Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) August 8, 2018

  137. 137.

    debbie

    August 8, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    It also depends on lighting. A guy at work insisted my black coat was dark green, then when work upgraded the lighting, he was shocked I had been right.

  138. 138.

    Platonailedit

    August 8, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    @Mary G: ron paul spawn?

  139. 139.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I am told that my eyes look blue-green if I am wearing blue, gray-green if wearing gray, hazel if wearing brown, and bright green if wearing green.

  140. 140.

    debbie

    August 8, 2018 at 10:25 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    As I’m sure others have said, be patient. Push too hard and it’ll become a chronic injury.

  141. 141.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    Hm. Switched on O’Donnell’s show. Poor guy looks as if he hasn’t slept in a week. Multiple bags under the eyes.

  142. 142.

    Platonailedit

    August 8, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    A US woman arrested after speeding through a stop sign asked police to let her off because she is “a clean, thoroughbred white girl”, officers say.

    The arresting officer, who is white, detailed in his official report how Lauren Cutshaw, 32, appealed to him for special treatment based on her race.

    When asked why, Ms Cutshaw replied: “You’re a cop; you should know what that means,” the report states.

    She was arrested on Saturday night and also charged with drug possession.

    Ms Cutshaw was pulled over after she drove through a stop sign at 60mph (96km/h) in Bluffton, South Carolina.

  143. 143.

    satby

    August 8, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: tell Valdivia we miss her!

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    Mary G

    August 8, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @Platonailedit: My lead suspect.

  145. 145.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    @satby: She knows. But all of you who really like her should know that she has a really dark side. She is a Real Madrid fan.

  146. 146.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 8, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: With us, um, older folk, recovery from serious injury takes far longer than we expect.

  147. 147.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Define older.

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    hilts

    August 8, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Have you read any other novels by Ben Winters? if so, how does The Last Policeman stack up against them?

  149. 149.

    Mike in NC

    August 8, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    @Platonailedit: We quickly found out that in South Carolina, nobody ever uses turn signals, and drivers have a tendency to back up without looking for what’s behind them.

  150. 150.

    PsiFighter37

    August 8, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    FUCK THE WORLD we live in. As an early-30s millennial, I have to ask: why did you stupid apathetic white people fuck it up for everyone else?

    PF37 + hard drinks / not waking upp on time tomorrow / typing deliberately

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    sukabi

    August 8, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    @WaterGirl: how are stairs for you? I’m still having a bit of trouble coming down them…ankle isn’t flexing as well as it should.

  152. 152.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus

    People who can remember mulling over the choice of penny candy..

    ;)

  153. 153.

    PsiFighter37

    August 8, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    I’d be more impressed if you showed an ounce of passion that inspired a young college student to almost fail out of college and elect true progressives.To be clear, that does not mean Richard Ojeda and similar dim-witted idiots,

  154. 154.

    PsiFighter37

    August 8, 2018 at 10:47 pm

    @NotMax: HA! People who can remember fucking around over trifling little shit like candy! How delightful!

  155. 155.

    debbie

    August 8, 2018 at 10:47 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    He’s probably too depressed to respond. Between mid 40s and 50, one doesn’t bounce back like they used to.

  156. 156.

    Jay

    August 8, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    @Ruckus:

    They’ve fired a bunch of people, created worthless pet projects, subcontracted work out ( to their Companies), killed programs and projects and are advancing the program to privatise the VA.

  157. 157.

    sukabi

    August 8, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    @Mary G: guess we know what Rand Paul was delivering to Putin. ?

  158. 158.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    @PsiFighter37: Why do you think that directlng that question here is helpful? The white people here aren’t stupid or apathetic – for the most part.. Or was it it just a cri de couer?

  159. 159.

    satby

    August 8, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: @debbie: for bones to knit back well? Possibly even younger than 40-50s.

  160. 160.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    @NotMax: Woohoo! i am still young!

  161. 161.

    debbie

    August 8, 2018 at 10:54 pm

    @satby:

    I was trying to be kind. My back’s been screwed up since my 30s.

  162. 162.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus

    “Decisions, decisions. I could get 1 Walnetto, 2 Pixie Stix or 12 of those candy buttons one has to peel from the paper ribbon&#8230.”

    :)

  163. 163.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    Code fail.

    “Decisions, decisions. I could get 1 Walnetto, 2 Pixie Stix or 12 of those candy buttons one has to peel from the paper ribbon…”

    :)

  164. 164.

    The Midnight Lurker

    August 8, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    @PsiFighter37: I’ll field this one. In a word – greed. It is an ancient evil, a evil that spawns most others. It infects almost everyone at some point in their life. Even you.

  165. 165.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    August 8, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    @Platonailedit: My wife’s friend wound up getting asked for her number as opposed to getting arrested for a dwi when she was @22. Circa 1997.

  166. 166.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    @debbie: My mom’s back has been messed up since the day I was born wen she was 23. No, I have no complex about it. Because your mom being in pain more or less since the day you were born isn’t a thing.

  167. 167.

    Platonailedit

    August 8, 2018 at 11:02 pm

    Democrats pick former Michigan state Rep. Rashida Tlaib to run unopposed for congressional seat that former Rep. John Conyers held for more than 50 years. Tlaib would be the first Muslim woman in Congress. https://t.co/q6L8mRO2Yx— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) August 8, 2018

  168. 168.

    Platonailedit

    August 8, 2018 at 11:03 pm

    These are pretty dismal top-two primary numbers for Rs in WA. They're at 49.7% of major party votes in #WA03, 51.7% in #WA05 & 48.6% in #WA08 (they're incumbents in all of them).— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) August 8, 2018

  169. 169.

    debbie

    August 8, 2018 at 11:06 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Yeah, I bet. My mom came down with some sort of pseudotumor in her head when I was about 16. Somehow she lived into her 70s, but she generally felt like crap.

    Speaking of crap, I just saw the Green Party candidate for Ohio’s 12th district (Manchin?) interviewed. The guy was either high or a total loss of a being.

  170. 170.

    smedley the uncertain

    August 8, 2018 at 11:07 pm

    @Ruviana: Color can Change your wardrobe…
    Over the years I had accumulated several sports jackets that coupled with a shirt and tie and appropriate slacks represented acceptable office attire. I rarely paid attention to the color and just selected them by style and fit. My wife over the years suggested various attire and said wear the navy blue one. I didn’t have a Navy jacket! Years pass and finally I succumb to cataract surgery. Yea verily! A Miracle I had Navy blue jackets in my wardrobe. It’s a Miracle.
    I couldn’t see blue….

  171. 171.

    rikyrah

    August 8, 2018 at 11:08 pm

    @satby:
    Awe??

  172. 172.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    What a world, what a world.

    Found the prize from the mini-pouch of Cracker Jack the TSA sprinkled over the interior of my suitcase.

    Peeled open the gaudy paper and there are instructions to download a free app to “reveal a fun digital experience.”

    Bah, humbug.

  173. 173.

    Mnemosyne

    August 8, 2018 at 11:12 pm

    @smedley the uncertain:

    There’s a famous anecdote about Monet being caught touching up some of his paintings inside museums after he had cataract surgery, because he realized they weren’t blue enough post-surgery.

  174. 174.

    The Midnight Lurker

    August 8, 2018 at 11:15 pm

    @NotMax: A crummy commercial?

  175. 175.

    Sherparick

    August 8, 2018 at 11:27 pm

    @Platonailedit: In someways it is a gift that Trump has encouraged all the racist assholes to let their freak flag fly. No more of this “I’m not a racist, but…”crap.

  176. 176.

    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]

    August 8, 2018 at 11:43 pm

    @Jim Parish: I taught a lab in microbiology for a couple of years, and one of the things I said on the first day was for any colorblind people to please contact me after class (A large part of the class was dedicated to detecting color changes in chemicals to determine bacterial metabolism), Nobody ever came forward, I was hoping on developing some techniques for colorblind students.

  177. 177.

    WaterGirl

    August 9, 2018 at 1:07 am

    @Amir Khalid: My co-pay is $30 bucks a shot. 16 sessions with him, about half of them useless, that’s $480 out of pocket. Nothing to be done about that, but the orthopedist was great about writing a prescription for me to see the new person who had been recommended to me. So I just have to move forward, though it’s a lot of money out of pocket. I just want to get better!

  178. 178.

    WaterGirl

    August 9, 2018 at 1:11 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Wow, I feel for her. It’s been 5 months for me and I’m feeling pretty cranky about that. A year? yikes.

  179. 179.

    WaterGirl

    August 9, 2018 at 1:17 am

    @debbie: My problem, I think, is that my balance was bad and I was compensating for the bad left ankle with my right knee, which would hurt like the devil at times and cause some serious pain in my groin at the same time. So I’d be at the grocery store and it would hit, and I would stand there trying to figure out how the hell I was going to get out of the store and to my car. It was a pretty unhappy situation, and it felt like it was turning into a chronic one. The only way I could lessen the knee and groin pain was to limp, which sucked.

    I am really happy to be seeing this new person. She came highly recommended buy the guy I know from the running shoe store here. He said he had seen her (after seeing 2 people before her) and she said “We’re not going to fix your back problem until we get your foot right.” He and I both thought that sounded like exactly the person I needed to see, and I think we were right.

  180. 180.

    WaterGirl

    August 9, 2018 at 1:19 am

    @sukabi: Yep, stairs aren’t great yet, either.

  181. 181.

    WaterGirl

    August 9, 2018 at 1:21 am

    I guess the thread was dead before I got back to it and was able to reply.

  182. 182.

    Steeplejack

    August 9, 2018 at 1:45 am

    @WaterGirl:

    Some of us are still reading, or we circle back.

  183. 183.

    debbie

    August 9, 2018 at 7:14 am

    @WaterGirl:

    If you do circle back:

    Yes, compensation is inevitable, but it does have consequences. I never broke my ankle, but I do have chronic inflammation issues and only experience has taught me how to cope, outlast, and get beyond flare-ups.

    I hope your new therapist can help, but be sure to ask for suggestions on how to deal when you’re caught by surprise at the grocery, etc.

  184. 184.

    debbie

    August 9, 2018 at 7:17 am

    @debbie:

    I’ve learned over the years how to distinguish between “good” pain I can just push through vs. the kind of pain telling me to stop what I’m doing. Ask the therapist about that. And never stop doing the stretches etc. that they give you.

  185. 185.

    WaterGirl

    August 9, 2018 at 8:33 am

    @debbie: I also know the difference between “good” pain and “holy shit stop doing that right now”. I agree that it’s really important.to be able to distinguish between them. thanks

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