Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

I really should read my own blog.

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

Presidents are not kings, and Plaintiff is not President.

Let there be snark.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

And we’re all out of bubblegum.

I did not have telepathic declassification on my 2022 bingo card.

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Seriously dangerous:

USAToday:

The mayor and police chief of Washington, D.C., on Thursday promised tight security for Sunday’s “Unite the Right” rally and counter-protests marking the first anniversary of a white nationalist rally that erupted in deadly violence a year ago.

Mayor Muriel Bowser said the city was activating its emergency operations center and would be on high alert for violence.

“We have people coming to our city for the sole purpose of spewing hate,” Bowser said. “We denounce hate, we denounce anti-Semitism, and we denounce the rhetoric we expect to hear this Sunday.”

Bowser, Chief Peter Newsham and other officials spoke at a news conference held at a synagogue in the city of 700,000 people, about half of whom are black.

Newsham said guns will be banned from the rallies, even for gun owners with legal permits. He said the white nationalists and the counter-protesters would be separated, even though both have permits to use a park near the White House.

Newsham was reticent to provide security details, saying he didn’t want anyone with malicious intent to be able to “plan ahead.”

“The rules are pretty simple,” Newsham said. “Don’t hurt anyone and don’t break anything…

Hundreds of counter-protesters, banding together as Shut it Down D.C., are planning a “Still Here, Still Strong” rally at Freedom Plaza, a few blocks from Lafayette Park. Organizers are calling on all “anti-fascists and people of good conscience” to take the streets in solidarity on Sunday…

Local news WTOP has more details, as of 4:45pmEDT this afternoon:

When and where
Unite the Right 2: 5:30 to 7:30 p.m. Sunday at Lafayette Square, according to the event’s public web page.
Counterprotests: Sunday afternoon and evening, around Freedom Plaza and Lafayette Square. (One is planned for the 900 block of 16th Street Northwest, not far from Lafayette.) A march from Freedom Plaza to Lafayette Square is also planned, which will probably impact traffic in the area.
NOTE: Informal counterprotests are possible in the area as well.

How many
It remains unclear how many protesters and counterprotesters will be on hand. The National Park Service has issued three permits — one for Kessler’s event and two for the counterprotests.

Kessler’s white nationalist group, with an estimated 100 to 400 participants, received their permit Thursday.

One counterprotesting group — the Democratic Socialists of Metro D.C. (estimated 1,000 participants) — received a permit Wednesday evening. They will assemble in Freedom Plaza and march to Lafayette Square.

Another counterprotesting group, the ANSWER Coalition, received a permit on Thursday. They anticipate around 1,500 counterprotesters at Lafayette Square, 500 at Farragut Square and 500 at McPherson Square.

A fourth permit has yet to be issued to a third counterprotesting group, which anticipates five people burning a Confederate/Nazi flag in Lafayette Park…

More (including road closures map) at the link, where I’m sure there will be updates.

Reader Interactions

284Comments

  1. 1.

    Baud

    Kessler, who dubbed this year’s event “Unite the Right 2,” filed paperwork with the Park Service in May for a permit allowing 400 people to demonstrate in Lafayette Park, just across from the White House grounds, “to protest civil rights abuse in Charlottesville Va/white civil rights rally.”

  2. 2.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    “The America we know and love doesn’t exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted on the American people, and they are changes that none of us ever voted for, and most of us don’t like .

    Yes, well the Irish are here to stay Ingraham:

  4. 4.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    Laura Ingraham is what our dear Betty Cracker calls the “Ambulatory Cream Cheese People” I will stick with that.

  5. 5.

    The Midnight Lurker

    @Baud: 400 people… let’s see, there’s twenty rounds per box, so that’s twenty boxes of– oh, sorry. Don’t mind me.

  7. 7.

    smintheus

    “The America we know and love doesn’t exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted on the American people, and they are changes that none of us ever voted for, and most of us don’t like…”

    That sounded somewhat more impressive in the original Russian.

  8. 8.

    debbie

    I don’t know. “Ingraham” just doesn’t seem like a very American name. One of those foreigner names, I think. Not American like “Jones” or “Smith” or even “White.” Maybe someone ought to accost her and demand to see her credentials. Or maybe just take her in for questioning.

  12. 12.

    debbie

    Well, isn’t this special?

    Officials in Franklin County said Wednesday they had found 588 previously uncounted votes in a Columbus suburb.

    And it happened because of human error, insists Franklin County Board of Elections spokesman Aaron Sellers.

    When election officials brought two master personal electronic ballots – or PEBs, small devices inserted into voting machines – back to the Franklin County Board of Elections from a Worthington polling location, one was uploaded into the final, unofficial total of a super-tight congressional race.

    A woman that I work with is from Worthington. A quiet, reserved, retired high school teacher was spittin’ mad when I left work today.

    The next day, as bipartisan members of the board of elections were reviewing the race, they realized the PEB’s results were missing.

    That PEB and its 588 votes were found. The breakdown was 198 votes for Republican Troy Balderson, 388 votes for Democrat Danny O’Connor and two for Green Party candidate Joe Manchik.

    They never giv eup.

  13. 13.

    evodevo

    ” Newsham was reticent to provide security details, saying he didn’t want anyone with malicious intent to be able to “plan ahead.”
    Hmmm … I’d just do like that Fred Meyers store in Portland the other day – find out where the yahoos plan to park their cars and have them towed lol

  14. 14.

    Brachiator

    Unsurprisingly, some white people are feeling a little less “economic anxiety” under Trump. According to a recent poll noted in Politico, almost everyone in America things that race relations have gotten worse under Trump, except for white Republicans.

    According to the poll, 55 percent of voters say race relations have worsened under Trump, compared with 16 percent who say they have gotten better. Another 18 percent say race relations have stayed about the same since Trump became president last year.

    Just over half of white voters, 51 percent, say race relations have worsened under Trump, while larger majorities of African-American voters (79 percent) and Hispanics (60 percent) say they have gotten worse.

    Self-identified Democratic voters overwhelmingly say race relations have gotten worse under Trump (82 percent), compared with only 4 percent who say they have gotten better and 9 percent who say they are about the same.

    But more Republicans say race relations have gotten better under Trump (35 percent) than say they have gotten worse (25 percent). About three in 10 — 29 percent — say race relations have stayed about the same. (Independents mirror the overall electorate: 13 percent say they have gotten better, 55 percent say have gotten worse and 20 percent say they are about the same.)

    Meanwhile, Fox News is clearly in step with Trump’s program and now follow his script (as dictated by Stephen Miller) in railing against legal immigrants, not just the undocumented. Any day now, they Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson will be delivering their opinion pieces with “Whites Only” signs in the background.

    Links

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/08/trump-race-relations-poll-766395

  15. 15.

    smintheus

    Ingraham gets her look from Riefenstahl but for talking points she relies upon Putin.

  16. 16.

    The Midnight Lurker

    @debbie: These people will do ANYTHING to stay in power. Like David Nunes said, “(Otherwise)… this all ends!”

  17. 17.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    The whole thing that’s vile about this nonsense is Ignrahm, Alex Jones, Kessler and so are merely Troll performance clowns and people get to die in the name of their “freedom of Speech” It’s doubtful they believe any of the garbage they spew, and that’s assuming they believe anything and aren’t merely nihilist. So they don’t even rise to the level of the real Nazis.

  19. 19.

    MattF

    @evodevo: Won’t work in DC. Demonstrators park in the burbs and take Metro to the demonstration. This may be why Metro management had the not-so-smart idea of running all-racist trains. Not a good idea, but you can see the thought process.

  22. 22.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    Apologies if the first dog on the moon cartoon has already been posted, let me see if I can link to it:

  24. 24.

    raven

    (I hear the sound of marching feet . . . down Sunset Blvd. to Crescent Heights, and there, at Pandora’s Box, we are confronted with . . . a vast quantity of PLASTIC PEOPLE.)

    Take a day
    And walk around
    Watch the nazis
    Run your town

  27. 27.

    lamh36

    HELLOOOO BJ.

    So….

    I Got admitted into the graduate program for Health Care Administration at my alma mater!

    Remember I took the GRE again (after almost 5 years!) and my scores were ok, but not fantastic…but I took a chance and I submitted them anyway..


    ??????????????

  28. 28.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @debbie: I don’t see this as negatively as you seem to. There was a problem (intentional or unintentional) and the system found and fixed it. That’s why there are safeguards during the election and audits afterwards. The institution worked.

  29. 29.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @debbie:
    So O’Connor has seemingly won?

    ETA: Nevermind. Narrows the R’s lead slightly.

  35. 35.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    Massive demographic changes have been foisted on the American people, and they are changes that none of us ever voted for, and most of us don’t like

    but, but…. economic anxiety

    Nicole Wallace is calling for a boycott on Ingraham, saying she’s racist and peddling the “grievance of White pain”.

  38. 38.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    Also re: The DC Unite the Right Rally. I hate these people. They have no respect for the dead or the feelings of the living. A man ended a woman’s life in their names just a year ago and they still wanted to rally in Charlottesville the same exact day in the same exact place. I can’t even

  41. 41.

    Thoughtful David

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Yes, except that it just happened to be from a precinct with a lot more D votes than Rs. While it could be a true accident that was caught and corrected, I think Debbie’s interpretation was probably correct. They just didn’t get away with it.

  43. 43.

    FlipYrWhig

    How much of this current weirdness about foreigners boils down to that white people think brown people are making fun of them in a different language? 50%? Higher?

  46. 46.

    raven

    @lamh36: Nice job. I got in my doc program on a “provisional” basis becaus of being a few points short. I’m Doctor Raven and no one is the wiser.

  51. 51.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:

    but, but…. economic anxiety

    These people are over 60, white and middle class. The “economic anxiety” is they are don’t like the guy who got hired to replace them when they retired. The idea an “Other” is able to replace them is an insult beyond the pale, it implies they were coasting along on white privilege and not all Self Made Men.

  53. 53.

    delk

    The America she longs for wouldn’t welcome a never married woman with a Guatemalan daughter and two Russian sons.

  54. 54.

    Haroldo

    @lamh36: I am so happy to read this! (But now ya gotta go to grad school. I am so happy that’s well in my rear view mirror.)

    Again, congratulations!

  57. 57.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Thoughtful David: You are missing my point. To me, it doesn’t matter that much if it was intentional or accidental. The important thing is that the system worked as it should.

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:

    How amazing that you would find his site. I have known his parents since 1975 — they’re normal liberalish people, although most of our friendship and communication is based on a shared interest in classical music — and I met the son literally before he was born. Don’t know where the obsessive commitment to all monarchies, any monarchy came from. He’s very knowledgeable, but as rigid and unyielding on the “divine right of kings” as any medieval ruler.

    Out of curiosity, how in the world did you happen to come across him?

  60. 60.

    Ken

    @delk: Is that Ingraham’s family makeup? Because I was kind of wondering if she was doing her part to reverse the demographic changes.

  61. 61.

    The Midnight Lurker

    @debbie:“The system worked, despite (I believe) intentional shenanigans.”

    With Kris Kobach, former head of the Voter Fraud Commission involved? What ever do you mean?

  62. 62.

    Brachiator

    @lamh36:

    I Got admitted into the graduate program for Health Care Administration at my alma mater!

    Very cool. Congratulations!

  63. 63.

    Schlemazel

    @Major Major Major Major:
    They will be once they get the damned colored in their place. Then the jews & THEN the papist idolitors. Poles, Czechs, Hungarians and Ukrainians can remain as long as they stick to their own kind.

  70. 70.

    jl

    So, the kids of earlier immigrants are going to get angry and scared about the new immigrants.
    That is like 1854 too.

    Republican Sikh man got beat up near Turlock CA (part of my ancestral area here in CA). There has been a large Sikh community in the Central Valley for well over 100 years. Pretty good chance the white kids who beat up the Sikh guy come from families who immigrated later than a lot of Sikh families who live here.

    I guess it is good to let people know that the fascists are emitting hate speech. I saw polls, maybe one here, that showed vast majority of US does not like hating on immigrants Most people here have enough info and common sense to understand where they came from, and what dangerous BS this is.

  71. 71.

    Schlemazel

    Been away again with only rare access to the juice. I believe I will be home for a bit now.

    Glad to see you jackals are battling on

  72. 72.

    raven

    @SiubhanDuinne: In the morning. The princess is going to drive me ti the airport and I’m going to take the shuttle back since I’ll be running on zero sleep Sunday. I have all these documents about the unit and I scanned them and sent them to the group as a pdf. I’ve gotten several really nice emails from guys thanking me. It must be funny for them as a bunch of dudes from the same area having “that crazy kid from California” doing all this research.

  75. 75.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @burnspbesq:
    I read that there are still several thousand provisional and absentee ballots left to be counted. This is definitely going to be a tight finish.

  79. 79.

    Ohio Mom

    @Ken: Yes, that is the makeup of Ingraham’s family. She is a single, intentional mom who adopted a daughter from Guatemala and two sons from Russia.

    I learned that today while bopping around. A commentator on one thread or another wondered how Ingraham’s immigrant children might feel about their mother’s remarks.

    Either Ingraham is an extremely cynical con artist or she is immune from cognitive dissonance.

    @lamh36: Many congrats! Your teachers will appreciate having a student with real world experience — at least the good ones will.

  82. 82.

    germy

    @delk:

    The America she longs for wouldn’t welcome a never married woman with a Guatemalan daughter and two Russian sons.

    “And what is she doing working? Why isn’t she home in the kitchen?”

  83. 83.

    Chyron HR

    “Some people think that the people who voted for Trump are racists and deplorable folks. I don’t agree, because I’ve been there.” – Mendacious Piece of Shit With a Messiah Complex (I-VT)

  85. 85.

    Brachiator

    Shocked, shocked I tells ya! From CNN.

    Melania Trump used visa opposed by her husband to get her parents’ citizenship

    President Donald Trump’s in-laws are officially United States citizens, obtaining their citizenship through the sponsorship of their adult daughter, one of the very categories of family visas that the administration has sought to end.

    Viktor and Amalija Knavs, the parents of first lady Melania Trump, were granted citizenship Thursday, their immigration attorney, Michael Wildes, announced.

  86. 86.

    Adam L Silverman

    @debbie: Kansas doesn’t have an automatic recount. It has to be requested and paid for by the candidates or by the counties. Right now they’ve got to go through all the absentee and provisional ballots. And, of course, Kobach is overseeing all of this and has refused to recuse himself.

  87. 87.

    Schlemazel

    @The Midnight Lurker:
    She is not old enough to have come in contact with those people. I have & have heard their sludge. She is willfully ignorant because she believes THIS TIME it will be different

  88. 88.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    What a small world! I literally searched in Google, “Sailor Moon monarchist” and his blog was on the first page of results.

  89. 89.

    raven

    @SiubhanDuinne: It’ll be ok, I have pretty low expectations since I did it 5 years ago. There is enough unique about this outfit that makes it worth it even though there is no great emotional attachment on my part. If I didn’t have this nasty head cold I’d probably be a bit more jacked. I watched a bunch of youtubes of the boat I’m going on Saturday am so that helps.

  93. 93.

    The Midnight Lurker

    @Omnes Omnibus: Okay… I was just trying to be funny. But, since you asked… when Kobach was Vice Chair of the bullshit Commission on Voter Integrity, he went around to all the Secretaries of State demanding they cough up voter roles. I know twenty-two states to him to pound sand, but I don’t recall Ohio. Maybe I’m wrong.

  94. 94.

    Ken

    Grrr, at 91 should of course be “So a prime candidate….” Bizarre comment editing bugs today.

  97. 97.

    CarolPW

    @lamh36: I adored grad school; it was the most interesting and fun experience I have ever had for a sustained period. My wedding day was the most fun I had in a single day, but graduation day (PhD) was second. Good job, and break a leg.

  98. 98.

    debbie

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    Ohio didn’t comply. IT was sort of surprising, considering the SOS, John Husted (now running with DeWine for the GOP governorship) has always been very vocal about illegal voting. He said he wouldn’t comply because he’d already determined there was no fraud.

  99. 99.

    jacy

    @delk:

    So weird — the woman my husband ran off with was an unmarried, racist woman with an adopted Guatemalan daughter and an adopted Russian son. As far as I know, she’s not Laura Ingraham, although I have never seen the two of them in a room together.

    And I wish the media would stop using the word “Nationalist,” and just say racist. Nicolle Wallace got on somebody today about using the word “nationalism” and said, “Just say racist! It’s racist! That’s all it is and people should call it that.” Amen.

  101. 101.

    lamh36

    Thx guys.

    So a bit about the program. It’s a Master of Science in Health Care Management. It’s the “traditional” track program, but it’s geared towards working professionals who want to pursue graduate studies while still being able to work. It’s an 11 course program, that adds ups to 33 course hours. You can enroll fulltime or part time (whichever is a good pace for you), as long as you complete the courses in 2 years. The majority of the classes are held in the evenings (again to make it easier for working professionals) and a couple are held as all day Saturday courses (those seem to be more seminar/lecture formats).

    I am still paying off my undergraduate student loans, so my plan is to pay for school out of pocket (my employer does provide tuition reimbursement for work-related degrees). To do that, my plan is to take 2 courses a semester, and pay total tuition each semester in installments. I can handled the added financial stress, as long as I am able to budget it out…I’ve already looked at my budget and 2 classes would be just in my budget sweet spot and not feel the need to penny pench (pluse it would only be for 4 installments). I don’t need anymore loans to have to pay off…tah.

    Anyway…I have to meet w/an advisor next week…then classes begin August 20!!

    Oh and YES…I plan to go to London for the 7 days in September! Hopefully there will be no exams during those days, and I would only miss 1 day of classes…we’ll have to wait and see.

  104. 104.

    Mary G

    @jl: The attacker who was arrested was black, son of the police chief of a neighboring town, who has been estranged from his family. You can watch the video here, but it is upsetting. The victim doesn’t speak English, but says they seemed to be asking him for money.

  106. 106.

    columbusqueen

    @Thoughtful David: No, someone didn’t load a cartridge correctly. I’ve worked the polls here in Franklin County, & the Dan things can be tricky to handle.

  107. 107.

    The Midnight Lurker

    @lamh36: London! Now I’m jealous! Be sure to pack a sweater (forget the umbrella – they have millions).

  108. 108.

    debbie

    I apologize and proactively request it be deleted if this doesn’t work. It seems relevant in more ways than one:

  109. 109.

    Gin & Tonic

    @lamh36: Wish you luck. My son took a leap into the unknown and started his Master’s a year ago. He’s not really working while doing it, and even still it’s an enormous time sink. But he’s delighted he took the chance. I hope you are as happy when you’re in it.

  113. 113.

    lamh36

    @Evan_Rosenfeld
    BREAKING: Special counsel Mueller to subpoena Julian Assange associate and friend of Roger Stone, Randy Credico

    5:15 PM – Aug 9, 2018

  114. 114.

    debbie

    @debbie:

    Rats. I wanted to link to the photo, but here’s the FB post:

    Humans of New York
    5 hrs ·
    “I wasn’t planning on dressing up as a clown. I’d been drinking all night in Poughkeepsie and I somehow ended up at the train station, so I decided to take the 4 AM train into the city. I had $200 in my pocket from some gutter cleaning work. I immediately spent the first $60 on brunch and Bloody Marys. Then I walked by Party City and I had the idea to get a clown wig. But then I noticed the suspenders, and the top, and the bow tie, and some balloons. I bought a red nose too but I’m not sure what happened to it. I left the store with about $100, which was enough to get some shoes and a half pint of Seagram’s. I ended the day with $10, but that got lost when I passed out in Times Square. Now I’m trying to figure out how to get home. I need to stop drinking.”

  115. 115.

    lamh36

    Ugh…why do I have to keep providing my user name and email…are we working to fix that?

  116. 116.

    columbusqueen

    @Thoughtful David: No, someone didn’t load a cartridge correctly. I’ve worked the polls here in Franklin County, & the damn things can be tricky to handle.

  118. 118.

    Adam L Silverman

    @debbie: This issue doesn’t involve the Democrats. The Democratic primary was decided outright. Any recount would be for the Kansas Republican gubernatorial candidate. The two candidates who are virtually tied with the absentee and provisional ballots outstanding are the sitting Republican governor Colyer and Kobach, who is the secretary of state. If Colyer wants Kobach recused, he will have to make the legal challenge.

  128. 128.

    The Midnight Lurker

    Uhhh guys… do you really think that republicans ONLY screw with democratic votes???

  129. 129.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: That is totally awesome! Are you planning to work toward your degree while you are still working? Or did someone give you a bundle of money :-) so you can quit your job to go to school?

  136. 136.

    Jay

    @jacy:

    I just call them Nazi’s.

    When they call me on it, I point out that I’m not gonna parse through all their Nazi BS to figure out what flavour of alt-Reich Nazi “lite” they are. I’ve got better things to do with my time.

    Feels good to use my White, Male privledge in that manner.

  139. 139.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @The Midnight Lurker: the most frustrating thing about that quote is…what is the this that will all end? Another round of tax cuts for the rich? A senile old coot tweeting out ignorant lunacy? A rapid decline into banana republic status only we have to import the bananas? The Republicans don’t know what to do with power. They want it for it’s own sake but that’s basically it. There’s no grand vision there. No policy goals. Nothing. One wonders why they bother. Is that kind of nihlism really worth the effort and expense of running for office?

  140. 140.

    lamh36

    @WaterGirl: nah…I’m all alone…so I’ll be working and paying for school myself. It’s another reason why I’m only doing 6 hours a semester (translates to 2 classes) just enough money for me to be able to pay out of pocket, and still not feel like I’m broke. I am lucky enough to earn a living in a profession that pays pretty well when you have as much experience as I do. So it won’t be a struggle to pay, but I will have to def budget in the expense as I would any expense

  142. 142.

    PaulWartenberg

    Personal good news: My short story submission to the Florida Writers’ Association’s Royal Palm Literary Awards has reached the Semi-Finalist stage!

    Dorothy if you’re out there, THANK YOU for your beta-reading on the story!

    I’ll find out who the finalists are this October!

  147. 147.

    Gin & Tonic

    @raven: If you want New Haven style, they opened a Frank Pepe in Warwick a couple of months ago. But I think Providence Coal Fired on Westminster does that a little better. If you like Sicilian or almost-Sicilian, Caserta’s on the Hill. And I’ve heard good things about Napolitano’s Brooklyn Pizza, although I haven’t been yet. That’s also in Cranston, but a lot closer to the hotel where the reunion is.

  150. 150.

    raven

    @Gin & Tonic: I’m just not sure if I’ll want to go into Providence on Friday night. Most of these guys are Italiano so they’ll probably know what’s what. What’s “New Haven” style?

  157. 157.

    frosty

    @lamh36: Congratulations! Taking GREs etc. after you’ve been out of school awhile can be a challenge. Have fun in grad school!

  160. 160.

    Gin & Tonic

    @raven: Thin crust, coal fired, super-hot oven, just on the border of charred dough. The classic Frank Pepe is white clam pizza. No tomatoes. I think they run the oven at 800-900 degrees.

  165. 165.

    Schlemazel

    @WaterGirl:
    Thanks for the heads up, I’ll try to get to them. I have been really offline the last 36 hours except of a few minutes & most of that was filled by required tasks

  167. 167.

    germy

    @Adam L Silverman: Is he really a comedian, or just a “comedian”?

    Usually, when someone is referred to as a comedian, I can see a bunch of actual stand up performances on youtube. Performances in front of laughing audiences. This guy seems to be all interviews and podcasts.

  171. 171.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:

    It’s definitely a small world (after all)! I met his folks in Flint (yes, that Flint) when I was the classical music person for the NPR station there and J (using initials so as not to out anybody) was the classical music critic for the Flint Journal. His wife, S, was (and is) a fine pianist. J was, apart from my WFBE colleagues, the first person I met in Flint. He and S have remained good friends for all these years — mostly on FB these days. They are rightly proud of both sons, one a violinist, the other (monarchist) a cellist, both extremely accomplished. I think they find T’s obsession with kings, shahs, and emperors a bit puzzling, but it’s a harmless kind of hobby :-)

  174. 174.

    raven

    @Gin & Tonic:Cool, my friend whose from them parts just said exactly what you did! They just came back from up there and went to the original Pepe’s

  179. 179.

    TenguPhule

    During Wednesday’s dust-up, Assistant U.S. Attorney Uzo Asonye pointed out that the judge had previously told prosecutors the witness could sit in the courtroom, and the judge shot back: “I don’t care what the transcript said. Maybe I made a mistake. Don’t do it again.”

    “I may have fucked up, this is all your fault!”

    Manafort Judge Concedes “Mistake”

    Once is happenstance. Twice is Coincidence….Three times…..

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    L85NJGT

    They’re working all the tried and true lines of attack as hard as they can, and can’t get that man’s approvals above 40%.

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    WaterGirl

    @Gin & Tonic: A couple places like that opened here, but they call it something different. To me, that eating that pizza is like eating burnt toast, including the charred black parts. My best friend likes it, but I think it’s disgusting.

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    WaterGirl

    Oh my gosh, I think BJ just saved my name and my email!

    Do I have to hit the check box every time I post, or it stops saving it?

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    The Dangerman

    @TenguPhule:

    Once is happenstance. Twice is Coincidence….Three times…..

    I expect the judge to be just as big a dick when it’s the Defenses turn; curiously, those people happy with the judge for being a dick to the prosecution will be screaming bloody murder.

    Manaforts going down. He won’t flip on Trump.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @The Midnight Lurker: Andrew Friction’ Napolitano said the judge’s anti-prosecution bias was out of hand. Even if that judge is sealed off from cable tv and the media, it’s hard to imagine there hasn’t been some blowback that reached him

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    Gex

    @SiubhanDuinne: Sort of like how “white genocide” is really just white people choosing brown partners. No one’s doing anything TO them but they play the victim card nonetheless.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: edit box is being wonky, so ETA: a lot of lawyers, on TV and twitter, say that this is not unusual for a federal judge in general, and that this judge in particular likes the sound of his own voice

  198. 198.

    TenguPhule

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    To me, it seems like the judge is a cantankerous asshole. It happens.

    For a trial that needs to get it right the first time more importantly then most. I’m getting unnerving flashbacks to the Bundy’s trial.

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    germy

    "I’m exploring a run for the presidency of the United States, and I wanted to come to Iowa and listen to people and learn about some issues that are facing the citizens of Iowa and do my homework," Avenatti told the Des Moines Register https://t.co/Wje8C2sY7E— Mike Memoli (@mikememoli) August 9, 2018

  202. 202.

    germy

    I am proposing a new rule for lawyers who want to appear on TV and spew nonsense – If you haven’t tried a case to verdict before a jury in the last four years, you are not permitted to go on TV. @RudyGiuliani – looks like you are grounded. How long has it been anyway? 25 yrs?
    — Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) August 9, 2018

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    Aleta

    From WaPo
    A federal judge in Washington halted a deportation in progress Thursday and threatened to hold Attorney General Jeff Sessions in contempt after learning that the Trump administration started to remove a woman and her daughter while a court hearing appealing their deportations was underway.

    “This is pretty outrageous,” U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan said after being told about the removal. “That someone seeking justice in U.S. court is spirited away while her attorneys are arguing for justice for her?” “I’m not happy about this at all,” the judge continued. “This is not acceptable.”
    (—)
    Attorneys for the civil rights organization and Department of Justice had agreed to delay removal proceedings for Carmen and her child until 11:59 p.m. Thursday so they could argue the matter in court. But lead ACLU attorney Jennifer Chang Newell, who was participating in the court hearing via phone from her office in California, received an email during the hearing that said the mother and daughter were being deported. During a brief recess, she told her colleagues the pair had been taken from a family detention center in Dilley, Tex., to the airport in San Antonio for a morning flight.

    After being informed of the situation, Sullivan granted the ACLU’s request to delay deportations for Carmen and the other plaintiffs until the lawsuit is decided, and ordered the government to “turn the plane around.”

    Justice Department attorney Erez Reuveni said he had not been told the deportation was happening that morning and could not confirm the whereabouts of Carmen and her daughter. The ACLU said later that government attorneys informed them after the hearing that the pair was on a flight to El Salvador. A spokeswoman for U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement, which implements deportations, did not respond to questions about why the Carmen and her daughter were removed from the country. “We are complying with the court’s order, and upon arrival in El Salvador, the plaintiffs will not disembark and will be promptly returned to the United States,” ICE spokeswoman Justine Whelan said.

    Eunice Lee, who is co-counsel for the plaintiffs in the case and co-legal director at the University of California at Hastings’s Center for Gender and Refugee Studies, said: “It must have been absolutely terrifying for them to think they would be returning to a country where they raised very credible claims of persecution and death. It’s outrageous to me that while we were working around-the-clock filing briefings for this case’s early morning hearing that people in the government were actively arranging for Carmen’s deportation.” The Justice Department declined a request for comment. …

    Carmen fled El Salvador with her daughter in June, according to court records, fearing they would be killed by gang members who had demanded she pay them each month or suffer consequences. Several co-workers at the factory where Carmen worked had been murdered, and her husband is also abusive, the records state.
    (—)
    In June, Sessions vacated a 2016 Board of Immigration Appeals court case that granted asylum to an abused woman from El Salvador. As part of that decision, Sessions said gang and domestic violence in most cases would no longer be grounds for receiving asylum.

    “The mere fact that a country may have problems effectively policing certain crimes — such as domestic violence or gang violence — or that certain populations are more likely to be victims of crime, cannot itself establish an asylum claim,” Sessions wrote at the time.
    (—)
    The lawsuit says Sessions’s ruling, and updated guidelines for asylum officers that the Department of Homeland Security issued a month later, subject migrants in expedited removal proceedings to an “unlawful screening standard” that deprives them of their rights under federal law. Asylum seekers previously had to show that the government in their native country was “unable or unwilling” to protect them. But now they have to show that the government “condones” the violence or “is completely helpless” to protect them, the lawsuit says.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @germy: he’s got a schtick he’s pretty good at, why does he think he has any credibility as a presidential candidate?

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    Aleta

    Wow the save-name checkbox is back and working!! Thanks Alain !!
    ( Or to MM, if you changed your mind and gave it a try after all.)

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    Jay

    “Mrs. Betty Bowers
    @BettyBowers
    The vile thing about @IngrahamAngle is one day her non-white, adopted kids will ask her: “Why did you you say those awful things about us?

    And she’ll say, “To make money. That’s what Fox was paying me to say about brown-skinned trash. Ur, no offense. Now, give rich mommy a hug!”

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    NotMax

    @Gin & Tonic

    I dunno, these days would feel kind of uncomfortable walking into a place named Pepe’s and ordering something with the word white in its name.

    ;)

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    The Midnight Lurker

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Well… that’s one way to look at it. Another person… for argument’s sake, let’s say a cantankerous ol’ Democrat from Texas… might be of the opinion that Judge Neopolitan Ice-cream might be thrown’ some shade to give the ol’ judge political cover. Not that vaunted FOX would ever allow such a thing to happen. I’m just speaking hypothetically, of course.

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    CapnMubbers

    @lamh36: Hurrah! If I knew how to do emojis, would post all the party hats, fireworks, claps, anything joyous. Congratulations!

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    Aleta

    @Aleta: I see MM did think of something to help save names. Thanks MM ! !

    Btw I also greatly appreciate JC’s commitment to commenter privacy and security. One of the good and rare things about JCole’s level of understanding.

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    Ohio Mom

    Just for fun, seeing if my nym gets remembered — checking the “save my name…” box now.

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    Frankensteinbeck

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?:

    what is the this that will all end?

    White rule. The heavily rigged system that keeps the Republican Party from becoming a meaningless minority who is already outvoted. The right to be an asshole. All three are intimately connected, and Republicans both in power and in the voting base feel correctly that they’re balanced on a knife edge, with control a mile wide and an inch deep.

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    Steve in the ATL

    On iPhone. Checkbox shows up in desktop mode; not in mobile.

    It is so noted.

    Steve in DFW

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    Amir Khalid

    @Ohio Mom:
    It remembers your nym (or name, in my case) and email if you refresh the page, but the checkbox doesn’t stay checked.

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    Mnemosyne

    @lamh36:

    Whoo-hoo! Congratulations!

    The nice thing about going back to grad school as an adult is that, when they make the admission decisions, they look more at your life experience and work experience than at your grades and test scores.

  238. 238.

    Mnemosyne

    @delk:

    If I were a jerk, I would suggest that someone call child protective services to check on Ingraham’s Latina daughter and make sure she’s not being abused by her openly racist adoptive mother.

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    smintheus

    @Gin & Tonic: A childhood friend who still lives in RI told me that Caserta’s has gone downhill in quality since we were kids (in the ’70s). Would you say that’s true?

  251. 251.

    Steve in the ATL

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I’m so cool that asked to visit, assuming that the heat wave would ease with my presence.

    NB: this may not be entirely accurate. Or even totally inaccurate.

  253. 253.

    lamh36

    @Mnemosyne: Thx! I think that def made the difference, esp since I’ve been in this healthcare game for almost 20 years now, 15 if those years i’m the hospital lab environment.

    I can’t wait to begin!

  256. 256.

    Mnemosyne

    @lamh36:

    If G had wanted to stay in healthcare instead of going to library school, my other suggestion for him would have been a master’s in public administration. It’s way more useful than a general MBA. One of his friends who stayed in healthcare just finished hers this year.

  257. 257.

    Ohio Mom

    No. Left the page, came back and my nym and email are gone. Oh well.

    I remind myself the site is still loading and that’s the main thing. I still remember that dark day when it didn’t.

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    Brachiator

    @Mnemosyne: Ingraham’s daughter is Latina? How does this work with her problem with demographics? Is this daughter supposed to be an exception? Is she supposed to despise other Hispanics?

  266. 266.

    Mnemosyne

    @Brachiator:

    She’s supposed to despise herself and any other Latinos, and to be eternally grateful for being “rescued from poverty” by Ingraham. There’s probably lots of yelling about how she now “owes” Ingraham eternal fealty because Ingraham deigned to adopt her.

  267. 267.

    Ohio Mom

    @Brachiator: Her other two kids while white, are also immigrants, two boys from Russia.

    I guess we’ve all just had a sneak preview of what the three of them as young adults will be discussing with their therapists.

  268. 268.

    Aleta

    @Ohio Mom: “Now my mother’s claiming it was all just an act to put food on the table and pay for summer camp, and we should be grateful we had it so good; ‘so you better stop whining about the racism.'”

  270. 270.

    Brachiator

    @Mnemosyne:

    She’s supposed to despise herself and any other Latinos, and to be eternally grateful for being “rescued from poverty” by Ingraham.

    This is insane. Even if she loves the child, she cannot raise her to be emotionally healthy and also hate other children like her.

  273. 273.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @M4: This is a test of checkbox persistence.

    Nevertheless, my nym persisted…. or, did it?

  276. 276.

    Mnemosyne

    @Brachiator:

    Right-wingers like Ingraham don’t adopt kids from developing countries so they can love them and nurture them into healthy adults. They do it as a power trip to prove to the outside world that they’re Good People: Look at me, I was willing to adopt a brown child! I am so much more virtuous than you!

    There are some major horror stories out there about what happens when Christianists like Ingraham adopt kids who are not sufficiently grateful and obedient as they grow up.

  283. 283.

    laura

    @lamh36: You are having a Year! What with travel and Ms. Jackson and the new babies and more travel and graduate school.
    Keep on having that year!

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