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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Hail to the Hairpiece / Open Thread: #UniteTheRight, A Little Clot of Pishers

Open Thread: #UniteTheRight, A Little Clot of Pishers

by Anne Laurie|  August 13, 20189:21 pm| 200 Comments

This post is in: Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Are these Nazis Walter?, Clown car, Riveted By The Sociological Significance Of It All

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A band of racists outnumbered by the police officers who are there to protect their free speech rights. https://t.co/Qd5MWzQGcZ

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) August 12, 2018

Never have so may protected so few who have accomplished so little. https://t.co/6f3hyqFOtf

— WhiteAnxietyHat (@Popehat) August 13, 2018

Local news in the Washington Post, “White-supremacist rally near White House dwarfed by thousands of anti-hate protesters”:

White supremacists held a rally in Washington on Sunday, and almost no one but their opponents and the police showed up.

Jason Kessler, one of the organizers of last year’s violent and deadly “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, wanted to hold an anniversary demonstration there, but the city wouldn’t let him. So he brought his show to Washington, where he hoped 400 supporters would join him for a rally at Lafayette Square, across from the White House. Fewer than 40 turned out.

The group was met by thousands of protesters who filled their half of the leafy, seven-acre park chanting “Go home, Nazis!” “No Trump! No KKK! No fascist USA!” and “Black lives matter!” They drowned out whatever message Kessler and his small band of followers had hoped to deliver — and that was their goal.

For opponents, the day felt like a victory, albeit an often tense and angry one…

how was the big incel unity rally?

— Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair (@senatorshoshana) August 12, 2018

At the site where the march is supposed to begin, and the cops are so bored that they’re tossing a ball with a police dog

— Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp) August 12, 2018

The counter protest deserved the attention. A city, with no representation in Congress, coming together to reject murderous fascism with an energy and spontaneity the President is utterly incapable of. https://t.co/bqYh4vD9B1

— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 12, 2018


Large anti-Nazi crowd already gathered at Freedom Plaza. pic.twitter.com/MkCk0wm8WK

— Matt Ford (@fordm) August 12, 2018

And since they'd have to rely on the cops for protection that meant they weren't gonna get to do any Crusader LARPing.

Just mill about in blazing August humidity as an entire, beautifully unified city yells at you and takes pics to show your employers.

Have fun, dickweeds.

— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 12, 2018

Jason Kessler says his group is small because supporters are scared after what happened in Charlottesville. He also says as soon as he got to Vienna Metro the police told him they had to get on the train. He says supporters may have been left behind. pic.twitter.com/pXt00Lirlg

— Paul Wagner (@Fox5Wagner) August 12, 2018

The face tattoos are what every employer is looking for. https://t.co/BMC5DZwa50

— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) August 12, 2018

A lot of people pointing out there aren’t many racists marching today but you have to keep in mind most of them are pretty busy right now running their campaigns as GOP candidates https://t.co/c6QlOb00z1

— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) August 12, 2018

I’ll have my HD footage of everything that went down online later, but in the meantime: something that stood out to me was the enormous police protection for #UTR2 at every point.

See the moment they first faced counterprotesters in DC: pic.twitter.com/N9jakstmwg

— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) August 12, 2018

The "kessler run" is "discreetly fleeing by police van into a metro station a few blocks away."

No one brags about it.

— Kelsey D. Atherton (@AthertonKD) August 12, 2018

It is weird and funny but also annoying and dumb that the attitude of our serious newsmen toward leftwing protesters is always that of a disappointed dad pic.twitter.com/EPwECSf7Bm

— Julia Carrie Wong (@juliacarriew) August 13, 2018

Well I was in favor of protesting against Nazis but now I see from several rightie sites that the protesters said mean things about cops in America and that's just disgraceful so now I have to withhold my support.

— WhiteAnxietyHat (@Popehat) August 12, 2018

Gosh, it’s almost like confrontational antifascism works and all of the concern trolls continue to be completely wrong https://t.co/KPAT6oZDFB

— John Carl Baker (@johncarlbaker) August 12, 2018

Jason Kessler had to disclose his backers in court in order to get the #UniteTheRight2 permit-they include a church pastor sympathetic to his racist cause who was willing to donate a charter bus. #ShutItDownDC #LafayettePark #FreedomPlaza #AllOutDC https://t.co/HDd1IBY481

— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) August 12, 2018

This guy is trying to convince a cop that an Antifa protester assaulted him. “No he did not, I witnessed it,” the cop said “He did not assault you” pic.twitter.com/1qM7HtsECM

— Carol Schaeffer (@thencarolsaid) August 12, 2018

Update: he just pitched his invention- an air conditioned police vest – to secret service

— Amber (@herrle_amber) August 12, 2018

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    August 13, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    Let’s outnumber them in the voting booth too.

  2. 2.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    Just mill about in blazing August humidity as an entire, beautifully unified city yells at you and takes pics to show your employers.

    Oh, like they even have employers?

    Of course, I don’t have to go looking to know this is being played on racist-web as LOOK AT ALL THE COPS THEY NEEDED TO PROTECT US FROM HATEFUL ANTIFA!!!!

  3. 3.

    Corner Stone

    August 13, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    My son and I were in DC on 8-6 and went to the WH area to view the Rosie + Broadway peeps protest. We got there about the time Kristin Mink (sp?) started speaking in between some songs. Maybe 200 people there in support of the protest or just interested? That was a lot of fun.

  4. 4.

    Jay Noble

    August 13, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Intersting to notice the diversity of the cops.

    Something occured to me the other night. If these twits want to cosplay as Nazis, why don’t the good guys on our side dress as WWII armed forces Army, Navy Wacs Wavs and so on. If not comfortable with the uniforms, how about poster size pictures of family members who served against the Nazis? No confrontations no Yelling. Just stand there and represent.

  5. 5.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 13, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Antifa Twitter is totally convinced that this rally sucking represents proof that antifa is the only viable way to address fascists and also this somehow represents the failure of neoliberalism.

    That was when I closed twitter for the day lol.

  6. 6.

    Pogonip

    August 13, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    Also on the subject of pets, how difficult is it to keep finches alive and happy? They sure are cute liitle birds.

    What I really want is a DOG, preferably a vicious little chihuahua that will reduce to bloody shreds the ankles of the person or persons who stole our lawn ornaments, but the autistic family member is terrified of dogs.

  7. 7.

    Lapassionara

    August 13, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    @Baud: Ditto. I know I am getting old when I wonder why the people marching against fascists are labeled “antifa.”

  8. 8.

    Jay

    August 13, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Most Antifia “twitter” accounts are snorks, grumpkins, lutzers and Russians.

  9. 9.

    Pogonip

    August 13, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    Does tattooing 14 on your face have some political significance?

  10. 10.

    raven

    August 13, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    @Lapassionara: antifascists.

    If the alt-left exists, it’s probably best represented by “antifa” (short for “anti-fascist”) — a loose network of left-wing activists who physically resist people they consider fascists. These are often the scruffy, bandana-clad people who show up at alt-right rallies or speaking events in order to shut them down before they happen, and they openly embrace violence as a justifiable means to that end.

    Antifa is not a monolithic organization, nor does it have anything like a hierarchical leadership structure. It’s an umbrella group that shares a number of causes, the most important of which is resisting white nationalist movements. Adherents are mostly socialists, anarchists, and communists who, according to Mark Bray, a historian at Dartmouth College and author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, “reject turning to the police or the state to halt the advance of white supremacy. Instead they advocate popular opposition to fascism as we witnessed in Charlottesville.”

  11. 11.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 13, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    @Jay: from where i sit it looks mostly like cosplayers and Russians.

  12. 12.

    raven

    August 13, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    @Pogonip

    The 1488 is for a white supremacist group. The 14 is from the quote, “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children” with 14 words. The 88 is for the 8th letter of the alphabet H, which means Hail Hitler.

  13. 13.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @Jay: [Writes note to self to look up snorks, grumpkins, and lutzers.]

    [Looks at note, tears it up, throws it away.]

  14. 14.

    Corner Stone

    August 13, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @Lapassionara: Because they have to cover their faces due to being tear gassed by LEO. If they weren’t labeled “antifa” then they would have to call them Steve or Bob or the guy who cuts your hair who doesn’t agree with Nazis marching in his town. And we can’t have that.

  15. 15.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @CNN
    Follow Follow @CNN
    More
    Aretha Franklin, 76, is in hospice care at her home, a source close to the singer tells CNN https://cnn.it/2KP5KIv

  16. 16.

    Amir Khalid

    August 13, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    That video clip of the racist Kessler marching to his rally with his very few supporters, behind the policemen of colour protecting them, is telling.

  17. 17.

    TenguPhule

    August 13, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @Pogonip: 14 words.

  18. 18.

    Jay

    August 13, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @Lapassionara:

    antifia = Anti Facists

    Because the US Media has to bothsides the hell out of it to normalize Nazi’s and the alt-Reich,

    and the Nazi’s, alt-Reich and ReThug need a scary boogyman,

    White Flour Clowns and Librarians Against Hate = scary Antifia

  19. 19.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    The fourteen words are: “I eat my poop and I recommend all right-thinking people do the same.”

  20. 20.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    @Jay: Why can’t we call them Fa Fighters?

  21. 21.

    Lapassionara

    August 13, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    @raven: Thank you.

  22. 22.

    jl

    August 13, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    I heard an apparently amused reporter on the news yesterday say that one of the white supremacists told her they were going home early because the weather was inclement. (why did the reporter reveal her amusement on air? More Deep State treachery, I guess). Anyway, I thought that was pretty weak excuse for the master race.

    The report also said the antifa crowd (who were strong enough to brave the supposedly bad weather) hung around and a few of them tried to draw the police into a confrontation, but looks like, thankfully, that didn’t work.

  23. 23.

    raven

    August 13, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    @Jay: They are some nasty motherfuckers. They want people to get hurt to move their cause forward. I saw the same stupid assholes in the 60’s-70’s. Some are probably agents provocateurs but not all.

  24. 24.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    @raven: This is just the “black bloc” rebranded, yes?

  25. 25.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 13, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    @different-church-lady: they self identify as ‘antifa’ because they’re trying to emulate European antifa, which has an actual history.

  26. 26.

    Platonailedit

    August 13, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    Ah, tapper the tool, never fails.

  27. 27.

    Jay

    August 13, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Snorks and grumpkins are the scary monsters under a small childs bed,

    Lutzer’s are online cosplayers who’s online “game” is to offend and spark outrage for shits and giggles.

  28. 28.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Well Dave Grohl has an actual history too, you know.

  29. 29.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    Oooh…Omarosa is going there…saying out loud what many have pondered on…

    Chump sure ain’t gon like that!

    POPCORN GIF!!!

    She said “I believe he covets his own daughter.” She’s not holding back at all. I had a modicum of sympathy for Ivanka and her having to deal with her father’s sick attraction to her. But to know that she basically flirts with her own father leaves me disgusted.

    8:36 PM – 13 Aug 2018

    https://twitter.com/itgurl_29/status/1029179858356764681

  30. 30.

    Lapassionara

    August 13, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    @Jay: not to mention retired people like me, who would have been there if I had been in the DC area. This sucks, this dismissing of a resistance against fascism.

  31. 31.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    @Jay: Thank you. But I THREW THE NOTE AWAY FOR A REASON.

  32. 32.

    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)

    August 13, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    @Pogonip: yes, or what @raven: said, who got in before my snark.

  33. 33.

    Jay

    August 13, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    You can call them anything you want. I call them friends, family and neighbors.

  34. 34.

    Amir Khalid

    August 13, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    @raven:
    Gee, and I was thinking that 14 was the collective mental age of these neo-Nazis.

  35. 35.

    Anne Laurie

    August 13, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    This is just the “black bloc” rebranded, yes?

    As I understand it, the “black bloc” is a subset of the antifa, the ones who believe that state violence can only be exposed by anti-fascist ‘retaliatory in advance’ violence.

    Whether the Black Bloc should be classified as our revolutionary vanguard or a few bad apples seems to depend on the speaker and/or the latest media-boosted incident…

  36. 36.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    @Anne Laurie: I thought the revolutionary vanguard was the Bernie Bloc.

  37. 37.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 13, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    @Baud: From your mouth to ceiling cat’s ears. तुम्हारे मुँहमे घी शक्कर.

  38. 38.

    Lapassionara

    August 13, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    @raven: “they” are the alt right or antifa?

  39. 39.

    Patricia Kayden

    August 13, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    @Baud: Which is the only thing that matters right now.

  40. 40.

    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)

    August 13, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    @different-church-lady: But you failed to eat it.

  41. 41.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    Dude…so you needed someone else to confirm you never used the word…ugh

    Omarosa def has gotten under his skin.

    @realDonaldTrump
    Blocked Blocked @realDonaldTrump
    More
    [email protected] called to say that there are NO TAPES of the Apprentice where I used such a terrible and disgusting word as attributed by Wacky and Deranged Omarosa. I don’t have that word in my vocabulary, and never have. She made it up. Look at her MANY recent quotes saying….

    8:50 PM – 13 Aug 2018
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1029183344397955074

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    Apparently Jews will replace them…

    @joshtpm thought you might be interested in our @jdforward analysis of all congressional races involving Jewish candidates. Good #bluewave data point https://t.co/7DUgXnsblE

    — David Goldiner (@davidgoldiner) August 13, 2018

  43. 43.

    Dan B

    August 13, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    @different-church-lady: Wins interwebs!
    Here’s your trophy. Sorry I snorted on it.. wipes mouth, cat peeks out from behind door.

  44. 44.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 13, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    @Anne Laurie: out in the Bay Area “Black bloc” has long been the ‘anarchists’ who show up to everything wearing all black and covering their faces and smashing windows.

  45. 45.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    Apparently the Twink for Trump has some deep seated, unresolved issues. Also, like Stephen Miller, someone else who doesn’t quite realize that the people he’s playing footsie with only see gay when they look at him, not white.

    Former Gateway Pundit White House correspondent reacts to his exit from the site by naming lobsters after his enemies, boiling them alive https://t.co/fTc3ClLmuk

    — Will Sommer (@willsommer) August 13, 2018

  46. 46.

    Jay

    August 13, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    @raven:

    YMMV.

    There are groups of anarchists ( the Black Block) who show up uninvited, to pretty much every protest, to stir shit up. They are a minority.

    Still, to bothsides the shit out of it, Everybody who shows up to protest the Nazi’s and alt-Reich is being labeled by the press as scary Antifia.

    Antifia simply means antifacist.

  47. 47.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Mostly because they enjoy those activities.

  48. 48.

    Corner Stone

    August 13, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    @lamh36: Burnett needs a really low tumbrel number when it all goes down.

  49. 49.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    That was when I closed twitter for the day lol.

    You neo-liberal sell out!//

  50. 50.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:05 pm

    @Pogonip: Stands for Adolf Hitler. A is the first letter of the alphabet. H is the eighth.

    Never mind, disregard. My Fingers got ahead of my reading comprehension. Some of these knuckleheads do have 18 tattoos where the 1 stands for the A in Adolf and the 8 stands for the H in Hitler. That is obviously not the case here as the tattoo was of a 14, which stands for the 14 words previously referenced.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    @lamh36: “I believe he covets his own daughter.”

    I believe that, also. I clicked the link – I had never seen the expression “spilling the tea” before. Something like spilling the beans, but more than that because it’s something juicy?

    P.S. I hope Omarosa spills all the tea.

  52. 52.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    @lamh36: Because Burnett sat down and watched all the tapes in the last 24 hours?

  53. 53.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 13, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    @Lapassionara:
    Agreed. There is more than one way to resist. I’m thinking part of the poor showing by the nazis is because they were pissing their pants about antifa. Good. At least some folks on our side have some huevos.

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    @franklinleonard
    Following Following @franklinleonard
    More Franklin Leonard Retweeted
    If there were no such tapes and Trump was certain that there’s no scenario where there could be, why would @MarkBurnettTV need to call him to reassure him that no such tapes exist?

  55. 55.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    @lamh36:

    @therebeccasun
    6m6 minutes ago
    More Rebecca Sun Retweeted Franklin Leonard
    Furthermore, if you’ve never said the N-word because it simply has never been a part of your vocabulary, why would you need someone to call you up to reassure you that there are no recordings of you saying a word you say you’ve never said?

  56. 56.

    zhena gogolia

    August 13, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    I love Aretha Franklin so much.

  57. 57.

    Bobby Thomson

    August 13, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    Jason Kessler says his group is small because supporters are scared after what happened in Charlottesville. He also says as soon as he got to Vienna Metro the police told him they had to get on the train. He says supporters may have been left behind.

    Oh cry me a fucking river. He gets a whites fucking only train and he has the gall to complain about timing? The ACLU probably would have gotten a TRO if they had left when they were supposed to.

  58. 58.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 13, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I thought we’d decided Jack Dorsey was the neoliberal sellout. It’s so hard to keep these things straight.

  59. 59.

    different-church-lady

    August 13, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    @lamh36: Burnett called him to say that there were no tapes of him not saying the word. Suck it, libtard.

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    @lamh36: These guys never learn. When they say I NEVER said that or did that, that’s how they really piss people off and they come out of the woodwork to say “oh yes you did, and here’s when” And where. And oh yeah, I have you on tape.

    Am I the only one who is wondering if Robert Mueller might be interested in Omarosa’s tapes?

    Also, I tried to type Mueller and it kept changing to Bueller. I never connected those names before…

  61. 61.

    Elizabelle

    August 13, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    @lamh36: I wish Aretha all the best. She is a force of nature. Enjoyed the youtube you posted this morning.

    Hospice is good. Rest be to a phenomenal voice and spirit.

  62. 62.

    Dan B

    August 13, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    @Amir Khalid: That is an insult to 14 year olds!

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:14 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Has anyone ever seen you and Jack Dorsey together in the same place?

  64. 64.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 13, 2018 at 10:14 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I mean it seems statistically likely.

  65. 65.

    Elizabelle

    August 13, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I iz innumerate. How does that follow?

  66. 66.

    japa21

    August 13, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    We were driving the last leg of our 18 day, 5200 mile round trip to the left coast and back yesterday. We kept listening to MSNBC and they were sounding almost disappointed at how there wasn’t anything really happening. It was so boring we turned on 50’s music, then 60’s music and then 40’s.

  67. 67.

    Jay

    August 13, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:

    That’s the excuse they are using to blame the poor showing and the media is deliberately echoing it to promote the idea that “both sides” and only violent people are against Nazi’s.

    The matching White Pride Demo in Toronto had 3 people show up and 500 counter protestors.

    It was heartwarming to watch Toronto Cops attacking nonviolent protestors to defend Facists.

  68. 68.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    @Elizabelle: See raven at #12. Oh hell, here’s the copy & paste.

    The 1488 is for a white supremacist group. The 14 is from the quote, “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children” with 14 words. The 88 is for the 8th letter of the alphabet H, which means Hail Hitler.

    :: waves hello ::

  69. 69.

    NotMax

    August 13, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    Been off attending to stuff which could be put of no longer, so no idea if any or all of this has already been mentioned. Things which caught the eye during the daily whiparound of some frequently visited sites:

    IOKIYAR, indeed.

    In large red letters atop a Georgia Secretary of State’s office web page featuring precinct-by-precinct vote tallies from the May 22 primary election stand the words: “Official Results.”

    But the data is hardly official. Two and a half months after the primary, many of the voter turnout figures are wrong – in some instances wildly wrong, excluding totals from the Democratic races in the red state. Source

    Sooprize, sooprize.

    At least 125 Republican campaigns and conservative political groups spent more than $3.5 million at President Donald Trump’s resorts, hotels and restaurants since January 2017, the month he was sworn in, according to an analysis by McClatchy.
    [snip]
    By comparison, candidates and political groups spent less than $35,000 at Trump properties for the entire two-year 2014 election cycle, according to FEC records. The biggest spender was former Rep. Allen West’s leadership fund, which spent more than $15,000 on fundraising expenses at Mar-a-Lago. Source

    How do you say “maybe mañana” in Paleoltilhic patois?

    New archaeological research from The Australian National University (ANU) has found that Homo erectus, an extinct species of primitive humans, went extinct in part because they were ‘lazy’.
    [snip]
    “Not only were they lazy, but they were also very conservative,” Dr Shipton said. Source

  70. 70.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    @japa21: Holy shit that’s a lot of driving. Welcome home.

  71. 71.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    Soledad O’Brien bringing the heat to her former employer…CNN in response to their Chump admin headline…

    @soledadobrien
    Following Following @soledadobrien
    More Soledad O’Brien Retweeted CNN Politics
    Very terrible! But, uh, walk me through the senior black staff at @CNNPolitics or @cnn or, hey, I’ll take cable news….

  72. 72.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    @Elizabelle: Never mind, I got ahead of my reading comprehension. I screwed that up. Some of these folks have 18 tattoos where the 1 stands for the A in Adolf and the 8 stands for the H as in Hitler. I I’ll go back and remove that one. My bad.

  73. 73.

    Anne Laurie

    August 13, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    @different-church-lady: That’s the revanchist vanguard. There is nothing revolutionary about That Guy, or any of his followers.

  74. 74.

    Amir Khalid

    August 13, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    @Dan B:
    I know. (Hangs head in shame.) I’m sorry.

  75. 75.

    NotMax

    August 13, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    @zhena gogolia

    Yippee! Gogol’s wife (dating myself with that) is back!

  76. 76.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 13, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    @lamh36: Let’s say there’s tape, Trump saying it 100 times, and it comes out tomorrow. Nothing will change. There isn’t a person in America who will actually be surprised, and everyone who hates him today will continue to hate him tomorrow, while everyone who loves him today will hear their own selves in the tape and will love him all the more for saying the “politically incorrect” thing. This speculation is a total waste of time and effort.

  77. 77.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    @NotMax: I never made the connection, so thanks for that. That’s why I hate when people change their nyms.

    edit: speaking of which, does anyone know who SIA became?

  78. 78.

    Anne Laurie

    August 13, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    @lamh36:

    If there were no such tapes and Trump was certain that there’s no scenario where there could be, why would @MarkBurnettTV need to call him to reassure him that no such tapes exist?

    As Ms. Manigault-Newman has been saying: The man is so far in mental decompensation, he can’t remember what slurs he might’ve thrown around this weekend, much less during “reality show” filming a decade ago!

  79. 79.

    Elizabelle

    August 13, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    @WaterGirl: Waving back. Hello you.

  80. 80.

    Belafon

    August 13, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    I disagree with John Bakers assessment. These Nazis were hoping for Antifa to fight them. It’s the language they understand. What scares all of these people were the larger counterprotest crowds that show up. I guarantee you that all those white supremacists in Boston last year, sitting in the gazebo being surrounded by thousands of good people were scared shitless.

  81. 81.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    @WaterGirl: Per Omarosa’s interview with Tweety

    @hardball
    [email protected] says she’ll cooperate with Robert Mueller’s office if they call her again. #Hardball

    https://twitter.com/hardball/status/1029146368135323649

    Notice she said…

    AGAIN…

  82. 82.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:25 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: What speculation? I am 100% sure that Trump said it and that it’s on tape.

    I am, however, very glad that Omarosa said what she said about Trump and his daughter.

  83. 83.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 13, 2018 at 10:25 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Former Gateway Pundit White House correspondent reacts to his exit from the site by naming lobsters after his enemies, boiling them alive

    That’s sick.

  84. 84.

    Platonailedit

    August 13, 2018 at 10:25 pm

    @Amir Khalid: More like their collective IQ.

  85. 85.

    japa21

    August 13, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    @WaterGirl: Thank you. Longest single day was 616 miles. Most of which was across Kansas. Mrs Japa and I decided to drive out to my siblings reunion south of San Francisco this year instead of flying like we usually do. Decided we are getting up there age wise and there is a lot of this country we haven’t seen. The beauty that is available to witness in this country is amazing. Of course, much of the driving was in red states so we keep pretty quiet when we were in restaurants and such.

  86. 86.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 13, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    @lamh36:

    Tim Miller @ Timod
    Totally believe you and I think @MarkBurnettTV should release all the Apprentice tapes just to verify and prove you right once again Mr President!

  87. 87.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    @lamh36: I wonder if she blew them off the last time?

    Love your popcorn guy. Not quite as much as your lawn chair guy. Of course, my real love is saved for Idris Elba. You weren’t here the night we were talking about Idris being on the super-short-list for Bond. Unless you came after I closed up for the night.

  88. 88.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 13, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    The Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has accused the United States of stabbing his country in the back.

    What did you expect Neo-Sultan Erdogan? It’s Trump. Being an untrustworthy, unstable asshole that stabs people in the back when convenient is kind of his thing.

  89. 89.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I love that!

  90. 90.

    JoeyJoeJoe

    August 13, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    @jl:

    I was right behind some of them at about 4:45. I overheard them talking about how to move around and get up right next to the nazis

  91. 91.

    Platonailedit

    August 13, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Exactly. The proof is in the pudding tapes.

  92. 92.

    NotMax

    August 13, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    @WaterGirl

    IIRC, it was a change forced by FYWP’s sudden decision that nyms containing an apostrophe were cyberpersonae non grata.

  93. 93.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    @japa21:

    Longest single day was 616 miles. Most of which was across Kansas.

    And here I always thought it just SEEMED like driving through Kansas took forever.

  94. 94.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 13, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: Why is it sick? That’s the normal way to boil a lobster.

  95. 95.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 13, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @WaterGirl: SIA?

  96. 96.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @franklinleonard
    23m23 minutes ago
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    Just messaging my friends to let them know that I definitely do not have tapes of them using the N word.

    You know, as one does.

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    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @lamh36:

    Omarosa secretly recorded Jared and Ivanka, too, she is telling friends and associates. W @anniekarni – https://t.co/6x48WLqqFA

    — Eliana Johnson (@elianayjohnson) August 13, 2018

  98. 98.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 13, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    in other news, the rolling grift rolls on

    Kyle Griffin @ kylegriffin1
    In 2014, political spending at Trump properties was $35,000.

    In 2018, it’s $3,500,000, according to McClatchy.

    LOLGOP @ LOLGOP
    A Macy’s parade balloon-sized parody of what they pretended the Clinton Foundation was.

    remember pay-to-play? and that probably doesn’t count stuff like the Saudi prince who pushed the hotel in NYC into the black, or the doubled membership fees at Mar-A-Lago, or….

  99. 99.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: And not kosher. But also delicious if served with melted butter!

  100. 100.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 13, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    @NotMax: Shouldn’t that be personae non gratae?

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    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: SIA was a former commenter (or possibly a current one and I just don’t know the connection). SIA stood for Screaming in Atlanta. I always liked SIA.

    I also wonder about AWS sometimes. That stood for Arguing With Signposts. Good guy, very interesting. Awesome cat photos, you would have liked him.

  102. 102.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Please please please someone release tapes of Jared and Ivanka saying bad things about daddy.

  103. 103.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 13, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: All I can think of is “stuck in active”, which is not a good thing if you’re a BGP admin.

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    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    @WaterGirl: I missed that thread, but ya already know, I heard about that news. Remains to be seen if it comes to pass, but I’m on record saying I love Idris no matter what, but Bond needs Idris more than Idris needs Bond.

  105. 105.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 13, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    @WaterGirl: hmm, now that second one seems familiar. But ??‍♂️

  106. 106.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:39 pm

    @elainaplott
    Follow Follow @elainaplott
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    Source passed along an early copy of Omarosa’s book, which I read so you don’t have to. Here’s what she says about members of the “cult of Trumpworld,” beginning with VP Pence and Hope Hicks:
    https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1029185248213577728

    She says she’ll be updating with more excerpts about Reince, Spicer, the family and Melania!

    She’ll read it, so we don’t have to

  107. 107.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:39 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Au gratin.

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    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    @WaterGirl: Where we find out that Ivanka’s porn star voice is fake and Jared’s “I haven’t gone through puberty yet” voice is real.

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    rikyrah

    August 13, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    @lamh36:
    ???

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    Kay

    August 13, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    I love the leader in the suit, striding purposefully with the rest of the losers fanning out alongside.

    I think the same thing of these people I used to think about birthers- their grandchildren will see these photos. God, I’d die of shame. “What were you DOING grandma?”

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    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 13, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    You speaking from experience? : p

  112. 112.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    @lamh36: Me, too. I love Idris, though I have to say there’s some lust in there, too. You’re right about Bond and Idris. They would be nuts not to do it. And money-wise, I’m sure box office would be over the moon.

  113. 113.

    NotMax

    August 13, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    @WaterGirl

    Also too PurpleGirl, who vanished without a cybertrace a couple of years ago.

  114. 114.

    zhena gogolia

    August 13, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    @NotMax:

    Sort of. I can’t get through losing A. Franklin without some company.

  115. 115.

    Procopius

    August 13, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    @raven: Jake Tapper and Brian Stelter complaining about “totally unacceptable” behavior by a protester. Reading between the lines, I guess they shoved a camera in her face and she pushed it away. Just shows how deeply they are in denial about how many people hate them, not just Trumpists.

  116. 116.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 13, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    Oof there is always a tweet

    "@EDM___HEAD: @realDonaldTrump @EdandBev lyin ass nigga" Why does Paula D get destroyed and you can use the "N" word so freely, asshole?

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2013

  117. 117.

    danielx

    August 13, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:

    Former Gateway Pundit White House correspondent

    Actually it sounds pretty normal by the standards of the Gateway Pundit. But yes, Lucian Baxter Wintrich IV is a sick little fuck.

  118. 118.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Yep… I saw that too. Like who DIDN’T she record…seems to me she was very strategic with who she recorded…hmm

  119. 119.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 13, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Thanks for the tip about clcboats. That could be just the ticket, although I would use a much beefier trailer frame. Did you say you built your boat?

  120. 120.

    zhena gogolia

    August 13, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I disagree. I think actually hearing him say it would have an effect on people who’ve been whistling past the graveyard.

  121. 121.

    Ken

    August 13, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    @WaterGirl: I remember driving across Kansas and seeing signs for some roadside attraction – “500 miles to the World’s Largest Fiberglass Gopher” or some such nonsense. I decided to stop and see the thing, because what else are you going to do crossing Kansas? 400 miles, 200 miles, 100 miles, 50 miles, finally “Gopher next exit!” Joy!

    Then at the exit, the sign said “Gopher 20 miles >>> Take County Road CC north”.

  122. 122.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Love that emoji. Might be my favorite.

  123. 123.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 13, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    @Kay:

    “What were you DOING grandma?”

    “I was fighting to secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children you ungrateful race traitor!”

  124. 124.

    Kay

    August 13, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    How stupid are these people? It didn’t occur to any of them that one of the grifters they surround themselves with would record their gross conversations? Of course she did. She’s not the only one, I’d bet.

    Cohen recorded too. They all probably do it. They don’t even stay bought, these people. They got paid AND they’re selling the Trumps out.

  125. 125.

    chopper

    August 13, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    that’s just rich, buttery win right there.

  126. 126.

    Chetan Murthy

    August 13, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    @lamh36: Between John Luther and Stringer Bell, he could play *both* the supervillain *and* the secret agent, ha!

  127. 127.

    zhena gogolia

    August 13, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:

    It is, but although I don’t eat lobster I’m considering naming one DJT . . . .

  128. 128.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 13, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    @A Ghost To Most: Yes, I did (both say that and actually do it.)

  129. 129.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 13, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:
    The lobsters named after his enemies part is what disturbed me.

  130. 130.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I’ll settle for a recording of Ivanka saying how she cringes when her dad touches her or looks at her. Or maybe she does flirt with him. Eeww.

  131. 131.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:47 pm

    Hm…this explains why there hasn’t been any Burnett interviews…

    @THRMattBelloni
    5m5 minutes ago
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    Mark Burnett won’t do media interviews unless the outlet agrees not to bother him with Trump questions. But he’ll channel his comments through Trump himself?

    https://twitter.com/THRMattBelloni/status/1029196329459666944

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    chopper

    August 13, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    @lamh36:

    [email protected] called to say that there are NO TAPES of the Apprentice where I used such a terrible and disgusting word

    translation: “tapes will be coming out soon”

  133. 133.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Like who DIDN’T she record…seems to me she was very strategic with who she recorded…hmm for maximum effect at disclosure maybe?

  134. 134.

    zhena gogolia

    August 13, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    @NotMax:

    Oh, God, you’re right. I wonder what happened.

  135. 135.

    NotMax

    August 13, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    @WaterGirl

    “Show me on the doll where the president touched you.”

  136. 136.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    @lamh36: There is always a tweet:

    "@EDM___HEAD: @realDonaldTrump @EdandBev lyin ass nigga" Why does Paula D get destroyed and you can use the "N" word so freely, asshole?

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2013

  137. 137.

    chopper

    August 13, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    same on the east coast. i ran with those guys back in the day in DC.

  138. 138.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    @Ken: Is that when you started banging your head against the windshield?

    I’ve never stopped at any of those tourist places – hard to believe I was able to pass up the world’s biggest ball of twine!

  139. 139.

    BruceFromOhio

    August 13, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    @Ken: way to spot the con, there, Ken.

  140. 140.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    new Gallup Poll on how Americans view Trump's performance as president: 39% approve, 56% disapprove

    — John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) August 13, 2018

  141. 141.

    Platonailedit

    August 13, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    @Kay:

    Apparently the racist ratfucks hired a professional black MC (you can see him at the end of the clip) for the event and that pissed off the other racist ratfucks.

  142. 142.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:51 pm

    @Chetan Murthy: I never knew until the discussion the other night that Idris was in The Wire. Reason 101 for me to finally watch The Wire. I can only imagine what he looked like when he was a young pup.

  143. 143.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:51 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: Yep.

  144. 144.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:51 pm

    Sad news about Aretha Franklin…

    If you are so inclined…check out this twitter thread from this music journo I follow. She creates twitter thread where she weaves in facts and performance clips from well known legendary artist.

    Even before the sad news, she did a thread on the Queen of Soul. It’s pretty great…so check it out…you won’t regret it.

    @naima
    Jan 7
    More
    Ok, let’s get into it with The Queen of Soul.
    Aretha’s shade to all other female artists can kinda be justified on paper.
    She’s the most-charted female artist, period.
    18 Grammys.
    75M albums sold.
    First woman in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame…..

    https://twitter.com/naima/status/950139004455931910

    ETA: Really, check out her thread..the clips she finds are GOLDEN!

  145. 145.

    zhena gogolia

    August 13, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Check out Inspector Lynley, Written in Blood.

  146. 146.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 13, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    @NotMax:
    We’re all doomed to vanish into the either some day. The scary thing about eternity is that eventually even historical figures like Gaius Julius Caesar, George Washington, Adolf Hitler, Rosa Parks, Gandhi, and MLK will be forgotten.

    /existentialist dread. Also too, fuck all the Chris McCandless hagiography.

  147. 147.

    Kay

    August 13, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    Glenn Thrush
    ‏
    Verified account

    @GlennThrush
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    President Trump pledged to protect service members and vets.
    At the behest of the bankers, Trump’s consumer chief, Mick Mulvaney, is quietly halting oversight of predatory lenders who prey on soldiers and their families, per internal docs.

    Just a reminder that while Omarosa is fun to sneer at, the respectable Trump hires are much bigger scumbags.

    People will get brutally ripped off and be poor in their old age because of the respectable Trump hires. Omarosa harms only the rich and powerful Trumpsters, they all richly deserve it. She’s fucking Robin Hood compared to the rest of these people.

  148. 148.

    Matt

    August 13, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    Here in Canada I’m hearing some of the stories of Saudi graduate students being forced by their government to leave.

    Some are told the day before that a bus will show up and take them to the US, where a university there has agreed to take them.

    Even those who are paying their own way are leaving, the leverage presumably being the threat to their family back home.

  149. 149.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    @lamh36: @Kay: Apparently White House staff are very worried she used one of those digital audio recording pens as that wouldn’t set of the sensor system throughout the White House and the Eisenhower Executive Office Building the way a cellphone would. And no one would think twice about someone having a pen with them at all times.

  150. 150.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Still, 4 out of 10 people approve of him. That’s fucked up.

    Also, 5% have no opinion. I guess they live in a cave.

  151. 151.

    BruceFromOhio

    August 13, 2018 at 10:54 pm

    @WaterGirl: Want forever from an interstate perspective? I-10, Texas. It’s the Sahara with gas stations.

  152. 152.

    debbie

    August 13, 2018 at 10:55 pm

    @Kay:

    It’s his own damn fault. He refused to leave his phone at home and he refused to stop using it in the Oval Office. If not for that, security would have prevented something like this from happening.

  153. 153.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 13, 2018 at 10:56 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:
    It looks like a good way to get a light yet strong shell. I watched the videos the Waterlust guy made. They were very good. His only complaint was it needs insulation for cold weather use.

  154. 154.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 13, 2018 at 10:56 pm

    @Kay:
    Is Discover Student Loans a predatory lender? Because I got a loan with them recently. Fixed rate and I’m paying off the interest. It’s only for two years and only borrowing for tuition.

  155. 155.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 13, 2018 at 10:57 pm

    @WaterGirl: Geh. Blech. I was about to say something important until you made me throw up in my mouth a bit.

  156. 156.

    rikyrah

    August 13, 2018 at 10:57 pm

    I really didn’t understand why Aretha Franklin was ARETHA until this song. In the middle of the song, I felt like the Spirit moved me

    https://youtu.be/WzRA9UzuU8c

  157. 157.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Thanks! I went to Netflix to search for it, no go. Looks like it’s on Amazon, which I hate. But for Idris Elba, I might have to get over that.

    I HATE the Netflix starts autoplaying videos now, the second I load their page. Ugh.

  158. 158.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    smh..there always is isn’t there

  159. 159.

    Kay

    August 13, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    @Platonailedit:

    We could have a photo montage of racist gatherings collected over the last ten years. All these individuals, captured forever for posterity. Remember the lady screaming that Obama had a fake birth certificate at one of those town halls? She had her own in a baggy like it was some kind of magic scroll? Her face all contorted with rage? This has been going on for years. There are hundreds of photographs. These people work and have families- they’re behind you at the check out counter. Just fucking seething – for years.

  160. 160.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 13, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    @BruceFromOhio: Kanz-ass is little better, nor is Nebraska. Drive-over country.

  161. 161.

    Platonailedit

    August 13, 2018 at 11:01 pm

    @Kay: Wingnut froth brewed by pox news.

  162. 162.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 13, 2018 at 11:01 pm

    @Kay:

    Just fucking seething – for years.

    Decades.

  163. 163.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 11:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’m sorry about that.

  164. 164.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 13, 2018 at 11:02 pm

    @Kay:

    She had her own in a baggy like it was some kind of magic scroll?

    I wish I could have been there to grab her birth certificate and light it on fire

  165. 165.

    Dan B

    August 13, 2018 at 11:03 pm

    @Amir Khalid: You are forgiven…….NOT! Said in snarky 14 yo voice..

  166. 166.

    Kay

    August 13, 2018 at 11:04 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Why are they so worried Adam? Why don’t the Trump hires want anyone to hear what they say in the White House?

    It’s not their personal lives. They’re supposed to be working. WTF are they saying in there on a daily basis that they all freak out when they find out they’re being recorded? You can record most people at work. It won’t end their careers, because they’re working at work, not reciting racist rants or planning criminal activity.

    She wasn’t bugging their bedrooms. How exactly do they behave at work, anyway? I guess we’re going to find out!

  167. 167.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 13, 2018 at 11:05 pm

    @A Ghost To Most: I don’t know about the trailer shell, but the kayaks typically use 3mm and 4mm plywood, so yeah, you definitely don’t have any natural insulation there.

  168. 168.

    NotMax

    August 13, 2018 at 11:07 pm

    @BrucefromOhio

    I-90 across Montana, a state which still has entire counties with a population under 1000.

  169. 169.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 13, 2018 at 11:07 pm

    @Kay: I do not want to actually imagine it given what we know about this crowd.

  170. 170.

    WaterGirl

    August 13, 2018 at 11:08 pm

    @Kay: If Omarosa brings Trump down, it will be reminiscent of the National Enquirer breaking the story that brought down John Edwards. x1000

    These are vile people, can’t wait for them all to be shown to be what they are – in some undeniable way.

  171. 171.

    Steve in the ATL

    August 13, 2018 at 11:09 pm

    Idris Elba as James Bond in a remake of “Live and Let Die”?

  172. 172.

    danielx

    August 13, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    Why do I get all these notifications (continuously) about googleapis.com and such down in the lower left corner of the browser screen? No wonder the server has a hard time…..

  173. 173.

    Shell

    August 13, 2018 at 11:12 pm

    Watched the first season of The Good Place on Netflix and enjoyed it very much, thank you. Then was bummed to find the second season wasn’t available yet. Aaaargh!

  174. 174.

    Dan B

    August 13, 2018 at 11:13 pm

    @JoeyJoeJoe: This belief that you must fight proves a lack of awareness of the way the world works. It goes against the principles of organizing and misses the techniques that minorities need to influence society at large. They nearly derailed the WTO demonstrations in Seattle.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 13, 2018 at 11:18 pm

    @Shell: I liked it too, and season 2 is one of the reasons I’m thinking of signing up for Hulu.

    And if you liked The Good Place, you should check out Albert Brooks’ Defending Your Life, I think it was big inspiration to TGP’s creators

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    Martin

    August 13, 2018 at 11:19 pm

    @raven:

    Adherents are mostly socialists, anarchists, and communists who, according to Mark Bray, a historian at Dartmouth College and author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, “reject turning to the police or the state to halt the advance of white supremacy. Instead they advocate popular opposition to fascism as we witnessed in Charlottesville.”

    Well, my son considered joining an antifa group. He is fully in support of turning to the police or state, but when the state is a bunch of overt white supremacists and the police all too often shoots black people for the sin of existing, it’s hard to argue that conventional approaches are working.

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    Mnemosyne

    August 13, 2018 at 11:19 pm

    @Shell:

    I think the 2nd season is still on Hulu. That may change once season 3 starts in a few weeks.

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    Platonailedit

    August 13, 2018 at 11:22 pm

    @Martin:

    A traitorous thug is at the helm with help of foreign powers and complicit racist party is proof enough that the conventional approaches are not working.

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    NotMax

    August 13, 2018 at 11:30 pm

    @Shell

    2nd season arrives on Netflix August 28.

    List of August arrrivals.

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    The Midnight Lurker

    August 13, 2018 at 11:35 pm

    We are eat up with these assholes down here. The problem is, they’re not as easy to spot as these costumed jackasses. Some of them are professional people and business leaders who wouldn’t be caught dead at a Alt-right or KKK rally. But they share the same views and ideals as Kessler, Miller, and Trump. And there’s a shitload of them.
    It keeps me up at night.

  181. 181.

    Mnemosyne

    August 13, 2018 at 11:36 pm

    @Shell:

    Also, too, if you were not aware, there is now an official “Good Place” podcast, hosted by Mark Evan Jackson (he plays Shawn ?). His guests are a really good mix of the actors, writers, and technicians, so you get to hear about costume design and how to do a location shoot in addition to the usual stuff. It’s really good and should be available for free on any podcasting platform. Each episode is 40-60 minutes, so it’s not a huge time commitment.

  182. 182.

    Mathguy

    August 13, 2018 at 11:42 pm

    @Pogonip: Zebra finches are great for a beginner. They are fairly easy to keep. I’ve had fire finches, which are beautiful, but a bit trickier. A of zebra finches will be entertaining, given the proper cage and environment.

  183. 183.

    The Midnight Lurker

    August 13, 2018 at 11:55 pm

    @Kay: I often canvass rich, white neighborhoods. When we were working on the Obama’s second mid-term (God, that seems like a million years ago), I can remember talking to republicans back then. Sure, some of them would yell at you, slam a door in your face, etc. But a lot of them were nice.
    One lady reminded me of Zaza Gabor when she came to the door. She was all decked out, wearing her jewelry at 11:00 in the morning. She listened politely before saying, “Oh, darling! I’m a republican! I would never vote for a democrat. But would you like a lemonade before you go?” I liked her immediately.
    Another elderly republican couple invited me into their home. We had coffee and talked for a hour and a half about the strengths and weaknesses of both the Bush and Obama administrations. They were very intelligent and made some salient points. To my mind, that was the last intelligent conversation I had with republicans.
    That’s all changed. Now, if they come to the door at all, the best you can hope for is clenched teeth and bulging veins before they slam the door. A lot of them start screaming, enraged.
    I’ve been called a pediphile more times than I can count. One lady chased me down the street, yelling, “I bet you eat at Ping Pong Pizza everyday!” I wanted to yell back, “Sure do! I take the bullet train to Maryland through the secret tunnel under the abandoned Wal-mart. One more punch on my card and the next infant is half-off!” But I just ran away instead. What a hero.
    This summer, I’ve had the cops called on me more times than a black man at Starbucks. Usually, the cops are very polite and understand what’s going on, although they often suggest I canvass in another area. One time, a couple of hammerheads jacked me up for almost an hour. They had me put my hands on the black hood of their car in 100 degree heat while they went through every piece of ID I had in my wallet. I’m sure it was a big show for the neighborhood. Good thing they didn’t look in the trunk. That’s where I stash the bones of the infants I feast on when my wife is too lazy to pack me a lunch.
    They’re so enraged. I often feel like I’m somewhere between Invasion of the Body Snatchers and 28 Days Later.
    All this rage… it has to go somewhere.

  184. 184.

    NotMax

    August 14, 2018 at 12:05 am

    @The Midnight Lurker

    I’ve been called a pediphile more times than I can count.

    Maybe leave the NAMBLA T-shirt at home?

    Although technically, I guess, a pediphile is someone with an especially robust foot fetish.

    :)²

  185. 185.

    The Midnight Lurker

    August 14, 2018 at 12:09 am

    I always try to wear a suit and tie, you know, dress like a republican. But I’m an ape of a man with a ponytail, so they probably think I’m there to repossess the Mercedes. And yes, mis-spel-chek will be the death of me.

  186. 186.

    Mnemosyne

    August 14, 2018 at 12:11 am

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    IMO, they’re enraged for the same reason certain family members get enraged when you talk back to Drunk Abusive Daddy at Thanksgiving — your refusal to knuckle under to preserve the peace makes them uncomfortably aware that they’re complicit in letting Drunk Abusive Daddy continue abusing everyone, and they would rather let him continue screaming and hitting than have to admit that there’s something terribly wrong with the family.

    If you’ve ever watched an alcoholic or mentally ill family member’s family continually cover up and make excuses for that person, that’s the mentality here. Admitting that something is wrong means that they’re part of the problem, and they will go to almost any length to avoid having to admit that.

    So that’s where we are: Drunk Daddy Trump is passed out facedown on the turkey platter, and the rest of the family is trying to pass the plates around and pretend that everything’s fine. You are the person at the table who points put that they’re passing around plates full of Drunk Daddy’s vomit, and they don’t want to hear it. Eat your Thanksgiving dinner, or you’re gonna get a whupping, mister!

  187. 187.

    The Midnight Lurker

    August 14, 2018 at 12:18 am

    @Mnemosyne: I get what you’re saying. But I think this is bigger than Trump. Deeper, darker. Their heads explode. I never mention Trump. I talk about health care, international relations, etc. I try to stay positive and on message. I keep smiling and always thank them for their time. Unless I’m being detained by the police or running down the street for my life.
    It really is like 28 Days Later. It’s like a sickness. A disease.

  188. 188.

    Jay

    August 14, 2018 at 12:21 am

    @Martin:

    The Anarchist’s ( Black Bloc) are pro violence, all violence,…..

    The Spartacists, Socialists and Communists use violence defensively,….

    SOAR, (Skins) have come a long way. Now they use violence defensively, but back in the day, when the Nazi’s could only organize in Clubs, they used to hunt Nazi’s down in their holes.

    The rest of the Antifia use words, presence, shaming and mocking.

  189. 189.

    Mnemosyne

    August 14, 2018 at 12:24 am

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    You are threat to white supremacy, and they know it. That’s why they hate you. Stay safe — white civil rights workers in the 1960s got murdered, too.

  190. 190.

    The Midnight Lurker

    August 14, 2018 at 12:31 am

    @Mnemosyne: Ugh! Thanks for the comparison but A.) I’m not worthy of that kind of praise. I’m just trying to get Beto! and a shitload of others elected. And B.) Getting shot is a hot topic down at HQ, but one I dare not breathe a word of at home. My wife and kids want me to quit. I would be lying if I said it hadn’t crossed my mind… every ten minutes.
    But thank you for your concern. It helps.

  191. 191.

    Chetan Murthy

    August 14, 2018 at 12:47 am

    @The Midnight Lurker: Damn! You’re doing that in Texas Goddamn! Respect, man. Respect. I grew up there, and I couldn’t do that, nosirree. Don’t they send you out in pairs at least? I have a relative who’s canvassing, and she -assured- me they sent ’em out in pairs. Which didn’t reassure me enough, but then, she’s an adult, whatamigonnado?

  192. 192.

    jl

    August 14, 2018 at 12:52 am

    @The Midnight Lurker: Thanks for telling your story. I phoned for the 2016 election and got the same rage from a lot of older people, and some younger ones. Completely unhinged mindless rage. I am sure my experience over the phone was safer and easier to deal with.

    I haven’t done any work since. I have to travel over 100 miles to get out of deep blue. I can easily imagine it is worse now. Especially bigots who, whether they are willing to admit to themselves or not, have been forced to witness that Obama was a top ten or fifteen president, and their great white hope Trump is a miserable failure.

    I think best thing to do for your peace of mind and safety is to waste as little time on them as possible. ” And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. ” as the Good Book says. Spend time with those who can be saved from mindless hatred, rage and despair.

  193. 193.

    joel hanes

    August 14, 2018 at 1:03 am

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    They’re so enraged

    Sorest winners ever seen.
    They have all three branches of the US government and still they feeling oppressed and discriminated-against.

  194. 194.

    Jay

    August 14, 2018 at 1:04 am

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    Rage and resentment is all they’ve got left.

    ReThug’s havn’t built anything for Americans since Nixon. All the ReThugs do is tear another piece of America down. Everything nice they have, came from a Democrat, worse yet, an N word President. The Wars can’t be won, life is getting short, nasty and opoided,

    And they swim for hours in a stew of Wingnut hate, racism, desentment, lies and hate for hours and hours everyday.

    It’s all that remains of American Conservatism.

  195. 195.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 14, 2018 at 1:30 am

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    I’ve been called a pediphile more times than I can count.

    How do these people know you’ve got a thing for feet?

  196. 196.

    Viva BrisVegas

    August 14, 2018 at 2:06 am

    @NotMax:

    I-90 across Montana, a state which still has entire counties with a population under 1000.

    I’ve driven the I-90 across Montana. I thought it was a bit crowded, towns everywhere.

    If you want lonely, try the Eyre Highway across the Nullarbor or the Stuart Highway across the Centre.

  197. 197.

    sukabi

    August 14, 2018 at 3:32 am

    @different-church-lady: or Donald called him to ask him to burn all the tapes…or more likely trump is lying like he always does…

  198. 198.

    otmar

    August 14, 2018 at 4:28 am

    @Gin & Tonic: sheesh. I used to run my employer’s network including our presence at an IXP. I know what you mean.

  199. 199.

    sukabi

    August 14, 2018 at 4:33 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I call Bullshit. Trump and or Kelley had the sensors turned off so The Mad Twatter could bring his unsecured phones with him without setting them off all the fucking time.

  200. 200.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 14, 2018 at 6:47 am

    @Mnemosyne:
    So you’ve met my family? That is spot on.

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