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You cannot shame the shameless.

Just because you believe it, that doesn’t make it true.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

Innocent people don’t delay justice.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

Cole is on a roll !

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Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Glad to see john eastman going through some things.

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Omnomnom open thread

by Major Major Major Major|  August 16, 20182:04 pm| 113 Comments

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We rented some goats at work to help clear the grass.

‘Some’ being that many. One of them is a baby!

Here is an open thread to disengage from the news of the day, and be like the goats.

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  1. 1.

    MoxieM

    August 16, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    You want us to eat grass? Kale is bad enough! (eta: cute goats)

  2. 2.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 16, 2018 at 2:08 pm

    @MoxieM: i mean goats will kinda eat anything, even kale!

  3. 3.

    I'll be Frank

    August 16, 2018 at 2:09 pm

    That’s enough goats for a rodeo.

  4. 4.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 16, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    Baby goat is cute and woolly.
    Yesterday was India’s independence day. Here is my blog post about it.

  5. 5.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 16, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    One of them goats ain’t!

  6. 6.

    Corner Stone

    August 16, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    It’s not a disengagement but I have to say: I’m not the biggest fan of Omarosa but she is enjoying her steak, rare and bloody, one bite at a time.

  7. 7.

    Elizabelle

    August 16, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    Your Daily Goat.

    I like it.

  8. 8.

    shell

    August 16, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    Looks like goats have their own union. (Wonder what the term is for gathering of goats?)

    Is the baby the fluffy one in front?

  9. 9.

    Brachiator

    August 16, 2018 at 2:12 pm

    Ah, another opportunity to repost my favorite crazy pop lyric. Oh…..

    Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
    A kiddley divey too, wouldn’t you?
    Yes! Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
    A kiddley divey too, wouldn’t you?

  10. 10.

    MisterForkbeard

    August 16, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    Wait, are you some kind of field programmer? :)

    I’m trying to figure out where this is. Because I can’t think of anywhere in the South Bay that looks like this unless there’s a patch near 280 I’m not aware of. In which case… either North Bay or East?

  11. 11.

    Lapassionara

    August 16, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: I’m not seeing the goat that ain’t.

    Thanks, M 4.

  12. 12.

    Steeplejack

    August 16, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    @shell:

    Wonder what the term is for gathering of goats?

    In descending order (of use): herd, flock, trip.

    “A trip of goats” has a nice ring to it. Let’s make that a thing!

  13. 13.

    TenguPhule

    August 16, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    I think I like this goat rodeo compared to the alternative.

  14. 14.

    TenguPhule

    August 16, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    Also, Shouldn’t a clip from “The Men who Stare At Goats” be obligatory for this thread?

  15. 15.

    TenguPhule

    August 16, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I’m not the biggest fan of Omarosa but she is enjoying her steak, rare and bloody, one bite at a time.

    That’s not steak, those are Rocky Mountain Oysters.

  16. 16.

    dexwood

    August 16, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    Since an open thread, I have a question for the Jackal Think Tank Pack: Anyone here own a Tuft and Needle mattress who can give me an opinion? Looking at the queen Mint mattress. Need to run out for awhile, but I’ll check in later. Thanks in advance.

  17. 17.

    tobie

    August 16, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    Wow! I was once told to get sheep or goats to mow my lawn. Evidently they do clear the grass. What happy pictures!

  18. 18.

    jl

    August 16, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    Thanks for goatpix.

    Goats are noble, goats are good,
    Goats clean up the neighborhood!

    Except, is child goat labor OK? I hope someone checked into that.

  19. 19.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 16, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: out by the stanford dish.

    @OzarkHillbilly: a giant dog definitely came up to me after I took the pictures and wanted me gone. Are you seeing that?

  20. 20.

    Joyce Harmon

    August 16, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    It must be Take Your Kid To Work Day.

  21. 21.

    PaulWartenberg

    August 16, 2018 at 2:20 pm

    you needed a herding llama in this.

    P.S. the checkbox for “Save My Name” does not work. I *do* use different computers to visit and post here, so could that keep throwing off the setting?

  22. 22.

    The Dangerman

    August 16, 2018 at 2:21 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    …those are Rocky Mountain Oysters.

    OUCH!

  23. 23.

    Gelfling 545

    August 16, 2018 at 2:22 pm

    @tobie: Get goats. Sheep will eat it roots and all.

  24. 24.

    MisterForkbeard

    August 16, 2018 at 2:22 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Ah. I thought it was a little too bare for that. Guess I was wrong. Nice area, for the 2 months every year that it’s green. :)

    @Joyce Harmon: You won the thread.

  25. 25.

    Mandarama

    August 16, 2018 at 2:22 pm

    I just wanted to thank folks from the other day for their kind wishes to my golden retriever Murphy. He is getting to come home from the hospital today! He has lost his sight and is pretty clumsy, and I doubt the seizure disorder will be OK in the end. But even if we only get this weekend with him, it’ll be worth it. I’ll just hold him and let him lick ice cream off a spoon. Losing our cat so suddenly and unexpectedly was hard on my boys, and they’re trying to be stoic boy teens. So I really want them to feel our care and love for Murphy, and if we have to let him go soon, I want them to understand the gift and necessity of death too as part of being pet lovers.

    That said, this dog is my 3rd baby and having to be the calm mom explainer sucks. Big time.

  26. 26.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 16, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    @Joyce Harmon: booo

  27. 27.

    Gelfling 545

    August 16, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    Here are crows being helpful too https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/french-theme-park-taught-crows-pick-trash-180969996/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=socialmedia

  28. 28.

    Another Scott

    August 16, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    In other news, … GovExec:

    The estimated cost of the Trump administration’s military parade, planned for Nov. 10 in Washington, reportedly has grown to $92 million, a 600 percent increase over the $12 million the Defense Department estimated in July.

    According to CNBC, the parade is to include as many as eight tanks, along with other armored vehicles such as the Bradley and Stryker fighting vehicles and the M113 armored personnel carrier. The parade as currently conceived also would include a variety of aircraft, including helicopters, fighter jets and flyovers from historical planes.

    But there is one problem with the proposal, which has not been officially announced: the Defense Department is legally barred from using any of those vehicles in the parade.

    A provision in the fiscal 2019 National Defense Authorization Act, signed by President Trump on Monday, explicitly prohibits the use of tanks, planes or other vehicles from being used during the event.

    […]

    What’s a few more “high crimes and misdemeanors”?

    (sigh)

    81 days to go… Eyes on the prize!!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  29. 29.

    Joe Falco

    August 16, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    So this morning, after I left the local Social Security office to turn in some paperwork for the MIL, I hear a strange noise close by. I turn around to see what it was and there in an empty parking lot next door was a goat bleating at nothing as far as I can tell. I didn’t see anyone going after the poor thing. It was the oddest thing I’ve seen today.

    And that’s my goat story.

  30. 30.

    Shell

    August 16, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    @Mandarama: Aww, Honey, I am so sorry

  31. 31.

    Gelfling 545

    August 16, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    @Mandarama: However long you have with him, I hope it will be peaceful and comforting for you both.

  32. 32.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 16, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    @Mandarama: aw. Hugs! ?

  33. 33.

    JCJ

    August 16, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    @Joyce Harmon:

    groan

  34. 34.

    burnspbesq

    August 16, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    If you think you’re having a stressful day, just think about the lawyers in the Manafort case.

  35. 35.

    Mnemosyne

    August 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    Goats amuse me. They somehow manage to be friendly and suspicious at the same time.

    I have fallen into a pit of despair when it comes to decluttering my craft room. Somebody tell me that it’s impossible for it to be an actual bottomless pit and I just need to stick with it until it’s done.

  36. 36.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 16, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    @shell:

    (Wonder what the term is for gathering of goats?)

    “Flock” and “herd” are the most common, and perfectly correct; but the best collective noun for them is “a trip of goats.”

    ETA: Curse you, Steeplejack!

  37. 37.

    Shell

    August 16, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    How do the goats charge? By the hour or by the field?

  38. 38.

    Mnemosyne

    August 16, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    @Mandarama:

    I’m so sorry. He had a good life with you, so now you need to make him comfortable as he leaves it. ?

  39. 39.

    Manyakitty

    August 16, 2018 at 2:39 pm

    @Mandarama: Peace and love to you all. Glad you get to bring him home for lots of extra love and spoiling.

  40. 40.

    Manyakitty

    August 16, 2018 at 2:40 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Tiny bites. Pick a box or bag, set that as your minimum, and keep going after you fill it if you’re on a roll.

  41. 41.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 16, 2018 at 2:42 pm

    @shell: @Lapassionara: That scab is a sheep. GOATS UNITE!

  42. 42.

    Heidi Mom

    August 16, 2018 at 2:44 pm

    @Mandarama: Wishing you and Murphy all the best.

  43. 43.

    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 2:44 pm

    I love goats. When I was a kid (no pun intended) we had a Swiss goat. The intention had been to get a docile Nanny who would enjoy hanging out with our horses and being a combination milk goat / cosseted childrens” pet.

    My father went alone to select the goat (big mistake) and returned instead with a crafty, saucy, gigantic neutered Billy named Charles (or “Charles de Goatte”, or “”Get down off of the oil tank, Charlie!”, or “Stop eating the neighbor’s hair!!” or “No!No!No! Not the roses!!!”)

    I used to give my Dad fits by sneaking Charlie in to the house to watch Saturday morning cartoons with me. O Mighty Isis!!!

  44. 44.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 16, 2018 at 2:45 pm

    @Mnemosyne: @Manyakitty: yep. Just like writing a story—if you just keep at it, eventually you’ll reach the end!

  45. 45.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 16, 2018 at 2:46 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Guardian dogs are protective of their charges. Was it a Pyrenees? Those are the most common ones around here. A buddy of mine has an Akbash (unsure of spelling) for his sheep. The sheep is the one with the curly hair.

  46. 46.

    Corner Stone

    August 16, 2018 at 2:46 pm

    @Shell:

    How do the goats charge? By the hour or by the field?

    You asking for a friend or what?

  47. 47.

    trollhattan

    August 16, 2018 at 2:46 pm

    @Mandarama:
    So sorry! Goldies are so loveable, hope you and your boys can navigate this hard journey.

  48. 48.

    trollhattan

    August 16, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    Na-a-a-a-a-ah.

  49. 49.

    Mnemosyne

    August 16, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    @Manyakitty:

    I did that for a week, and I don’t feel like I’ve made more than the smallest dent. Hence the pit of despair. ?

    At a minimum, I need more boxes.

  50. 50.

    MoxieM

    August 16, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    @dexwood: Yeah!! I adore mine. However, I bought an original model, and I believe they have changed the construction a bit.
    Mine is a 10″ thick–I started with the 5″ (don’t know if they still offer that) and it was a bit too, uh, spartan. But I have a seriously bad back and the Tuft & Needle has been a godsend for me. A++ rating

  51. 51.

    TenguPhule

    August 16, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    @Mel:

    My father went alone to select the goat (big mistake) and returned instead with a crafty, saucy, gigantic neutered Billy named Charles

    Milking it must have been fun.

  52. 52.

    Corner Stone

    August 16, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    @Mel: This really should be turned into a mini-series treatment on Netflix.

  53. 53.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 16, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    @Mandarama: Thoughts.

  54. 54.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 16, 2018 at 2:49 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: ah man I was hoping that was a baby goat, though I had my suspicions…

    Dog could have been a Pyrenees.

  55. 55.

    TenguPhule

    August 16, 2018 at 2:50 pm

    @Another Scott:

    According to CNBC, the parade is to include as many as eight tanks, along with other armored vehicles such as the Bradley and Stryker fighting vehicles and the M113 armored personnel carrier.

    Wonder how they plan to keep the street pavement from turning into Mad Max at Fury Road.

  56. 56.

    Corner Stone

    August 16, 2018 at 2:50 pm

    @trollhattan: I’m just sayin’. If you have to ask you probably can’t afford it.

  57. 57.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 16, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    It’s 1 a.m. and my bags are essentially packed and ready to go. There’s a little final stuff to be done when I get up at Zero Dark Thirty to dilate and put my face on. Not sure if I’ll try to get a few hours of sleep, or whether I’ll be able to. Regardless there’s plenty of time to sleep on the plane. Six hours from Bangkok to Tokyo, a brief layover and then another 10 hours to San Francisco.

    Like most patients who can afford it, I’m flying business class. Expensive as fuck, but the seats that lay down into beds are worth every penny after genital reassignment surgery. You really, really, don’t want to be sitting for 16 hours.

    Hard my final check-up this afternoon, and Dr. Suporn pronounced me healthy and healing well. There’s some stitches are pokey and uncomfortable as they come out and can make it ouchy to walk at times, and there’s some dead skin on the inner side of my labia (which is normal and will slough off in good time). Dr. Suporn asked if I wanted to see photos from my surgery, and being the medical nerd I am, I said I did. Didn’t particularly freak me out, even though I thought it might. The clinic actually send you home with a USB drive with photos and potentially some video. Not sure I need to see that though.

    Someone asked me to summarize my experience in a word. It’s difficult because there’s some many complex emotions, but I finally settled on “intense.”

    It’s emotionally intense when you arrive, the surgery and the recovery are both physically and mentally intense. But there’s also an intense bonding that occurs with your fellow patients, especially those whose surgery dates are close to your’s, so you seem them for most of the month that you’re here.

    Sisterhood is a word that’s overrated, but it’s applicable here. We’ve shared a unique and grueling experience, and that leads to some intense bonds. Realistically, I may never see many of my new friends in person again — Dr. Suporn literally has patients from around the globe — but I do plan to keep in touch online. I suppose it’s a tiny bit like being in combat — you can talk about it to others, but it’s different with someone who’s actually been through it themselves.

    It’s a bittersweet parting of the ways.

  58. 58.

    Manyakitty

    August 16, 2018 at 2:52 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Ask me about my yarn stash (actually, don’t. It’s enough to open my own shop. Oy.) I started using space bags, and it’s still EVERYWHERE.

  59. 59.

    Corner Stone

    August 16, 2018 at 2:53 pm

    @Manyakitty: So how is your yarn stash, anyway?

  60. 60.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 16, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    @burnspbesq: The world’s tiniest violin is way too large to express my concern for Manafort’s lawyers. I hope he paid them with a wire transfer from one of his Cyprus banks and after he’s convicted Mueller indicts them for money laundering.

  61. 61.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 16, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Long fluffy hair? Looks like it would die in our humid Ozark summers?

  62. 62.

    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    @Mandarama: I am so sorry. Losing one is unthinkably hard, but two in short order – my heart goes out to you and your boys.

    I’m so glad that Murphy has stabilized and can come home to you! Just hold him, love him, and don’t worry about anything but you, Murphy, and your family for now. Just be with him, with each other, and know that everything else can wait for a day or two. Sending your family love and many hugs and purrs from me, Pixie B, and Jane Kat.

  63. 63.

    Roger Moore

    August 16, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    @Shell:

    How do the goats charge?

    The goats charge by running really fast and trying to hit you with their horns. The humans who own them probably charge by the day.

  64. 64.

    Manyakitty

    August 16, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    @Corner Stone: Self-perpetuating, apparently. Hahahahahahaha! (laugh/cry emoji)

  65. 65.

    Elizabelle

    August 16, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    @Shell: Visa. Less places are taking American Express, but some goats still use it.

  66. 66.

    Roger Moore

    August 16, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I did that for a week, and I don’t feel like I’ve made more than the smallest dent.

    The way these things usually go, 80% of the time produces only 20% of the visible results. When it looks like you’ve made the smallest dent, you’re actually well on your way to finished.

  67. 67.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 16, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    @Mnemosyne: My shop gets that way. Eventually it gets so bad I HAVE to do something about it. Then I just set a day aside and go thru it front to back putting anything I am unsure of outside to await a decision. Anything still outside when I am done gets put away in the trash.

  68. 68.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 16, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: You know, although I don’t have photos or video of my own surgery (ORIF of distal radius) there are plenty available on-line, and I’ve managed to avoid every opportunity to view them. Some things I don’t need to see.

    Wishing you safe and comfortable travels.

  69. 69.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 16, 2018 at 3:00 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: yep, looked like a brown-patched version of the pictures on google.

  70. 70.

    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 3:01 pm

    @Manyakitty: That’s me, only with quilting goods and beads. Thank goodness one of my nephews and also my niece appear to have inherited the “let’s go make stuff!!” gene, as well…

  71. 71.

    Manyakitty

    August 16, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    @Mel: It’s possible that I’m sticking a toe into quilting very soon. Like, I bought the fabric, now I need to lay it out. Yay!

  72. 72.

    OzarkHillbilly

    August 16, 2018 at 3:08 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Probably a cross breed then. I don’t know Guardian dog breeds near well enough to venture a guess as to which it might have been crossed with.

  73. 73.

    silvery

    August 16, 2018 at 3:09 pm

    @dexwood: I bought a Tuft and Needle mattress six months ago and have been happy with it. They run a little firm, but not too firm. I have some nerve damage in one arm/hand that is sensitive to too firm of a mattress and haven’t had any problems with it. They are very prompt shipping-wise, and the set-up is super easy. There is no motion transfer with another person on the bed. I’ll check back into this thread for the next day or so if you have any questions.

  74. 74.

    Mnemosyne

    August 16, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    @Manyakitty:

    I have yarn AND papercrafting AND office supplies AND books. Ugh. I was trying to sort like things into the same boxes, and then I ran out of boxes.

    @Roger Moore:

    When it looks like you’ve made the smallest dent, you’re actually well on your way to finished.

    Feh, I say. Feh!

    I’m buying more boxes from Amazon, because they’re the only place that carries the moving boxes that don’t need tape. I accidentally bought the large ones, which was (literally) a huge mistake. They work for yarn and other relatively light things, but not books or office supplies.

  75. 75.

    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 3:12 pm

    @TenguPhule: Um, no. EW.

    Although one of my non-farmkid friends did point at the zone in question and ask, “Does that make the milk, like on the cows on tv?”

    Very awkward 3 minutes of explanation of boy goat anatomy versus girl goat anatomy to a stranger’s kindergarten aged child ensued for my Dad.

  76. 76.

    Mnemosyne

    August 16, 2018 at 3:20 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    I’m being a giant wimp about having one little knee ligament replaced at the end of this month, so it’s good for me to see someone go through a major reconstructive surgery and do well.

  77. 77.

    captnkurt

    August 16, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    This whole tweet from the Pr*sident crowing that Republicans “have now won 8 out of 9 House seats” since he was inaugurated. I thought that Democrats were flipping a bunch of seats out there in these special elections. Am I misunderstanding something?

  78. 78.

    Manyakitty

    August 16, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne: What’s the motivation? Are you moving? Trying to get organized just because? Other? Because that makes a difference in how you sort and store your supplies.

  79. 79.

    MoxieM

    August 16, 2018 at 3:23 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: That would make sense. They are very common as LGD (livestock guardian dogs) out west. My Murphy is mostly Pyr, although mixed with Black Lab she’s got a tuxedo and dainty little white feetsies. But she has the shepherd’s crook in her tail, the muzzle shape, and oh wow! does she ever have the temperament. To say I feel safe with her is an understatement. She’s only 90 lbs., but she would seriously take on all comers, including bears (common around here), and the police dept snapped a photo of a Puma out the office window in the town next door. (Ridiculous). And yet… people around here let their cats loose all the damn time, and then wonder why they disappear. (Coyotes and Coydogs also common.) I forbear to point out the stupidity, but the plaintive messages make me nuts.

  80. 80.

    Corner Stone

    August 16, 2018 at 3:24 pm

    @Mel:

    Um, no. EW.

    Don’t you mean “ewe”?
    So, the door’s this way, right? I’ll see myself out.

  81. 81.

    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    @Manyakitty: Yeah!! I’m working on a batik quilt for my nephew (just turned 5 years old). The quilt top consists of various stars in blues, purples, greens, and yellows (his favorite colors), and each star represents a member of the family. On the quilt backing, each block /star’s area will have info embroidered about that family member (his Mom, Dad, Grandparents, Grt Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles, and his two cousins): where they were born, birthday, and something that they love (or loved) to do.

    We gave his Mom and Dad two quilts made by my great grandmother, and he loves those quilts like crazy, so I wanted him to have one of his very own. Hopefully he’ll like it!

  82. 82.

    JAFD

    August 16, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    Good afternoon from New Jersey. Lots of rain lately, but clear and hot today Tomorrow is last 90-degree day in 7-day forecast, tho.

    Ms. Harmon, you are a lady after mine own heart.

    Mrs Mandarama, my sympathies. Ms. Golden Bear, have good trip and speedy recovery.

    Mnemosyne, welcome to club. Projects am doing for friends, gifts and favor returns, three small armies and a couple of War of 1812 sailing ship models, birthday gift so Mark can release his inner Hornblower (ballad at http://www.americanantiquarian.org/thomasballads/items/show/335). Am in a ‘get these guys Finished ANd Outtahere’ mood. Pictures if I get chance will post.

  83. 83.

    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    @Corner Stone: With a drumroll, though…

  84. 84.

    frosty

    August 16, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    @Mnemosyne U Haul had some nice foldup boxes last time we did some major packing up. They buy back the ones you don’t use.

  85. 85.

    Mandarama

    August 16, 2018 at 3:27 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: I’m so happy for you! Have a safe journey.

  86. 86.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 16, 2018 at 3:30 pm

    @MoxieM: I don’t think Samwise has ever been outside. Not since I’ve had him at any rate.

  87. 87.

    Manyakitty

    August 16, 2018 at 3:31 pm

    @Mel: That sounds spectacular! I’m making a batik quilt also (the best of us do, it seems), but it’s mainly to line the “seat” of my newish living room bay window. Picture the top section of a stop sign, just above the square part. I thought I’d lay the fabric out in rays, so it looks like a sun. Not sure what order I want the colors, or if I want to try getting fancy with the sections. If this works out, I’ll expand to one for the bed.

    Don’t really know much about proper quilting technique or anything, but I figured this was a pretty low stakes project to try winging it (as I tend to do)

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    Mandarama

    August 16, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I’ve had my ACL replaced, and I have anxiety and medical phobia. But it was actually not horrible! I got a donated (cadaver) ligament so someone’s tissue is dancing onwards. The PT was really tough, but I promised dr. that if he’d get me through the skeery part I would do the work part. It was outpatient and pretty quick.

    We did buy the icing machine the clinic used. That thing is awesome. I think it was about $200 but WORTH it. My cat liked to curl up in the tubes of it for coolness as it was running. And we’ve dragged it out for boy sports injuries in the years since, so it’s useful.

    I love yoga and wanted to get hyperflexibility back, and I did! The only thing I won’t do anymore is roller skate, because I don’t want the risk, but otherwise I’m glad I got the knee fixed. I’ll cheer you on.

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    jonas

    August 16, 2018 at 3:34 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: During the trial, didn’t the defense try to show that Manafort was in fact really rich (at least in assets) and wouldn’t have needed to commit all this complex fraud if he were hard up for cash? I saw the figure $20 million bandied about at some point. If that’s true, he’s gonna need to downsize quite a bit to pay those lawyers, and I don’t mean just hawking the ostrich skin jacket and bespoke suits.

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    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: Safe travels, and welcome home! So very happy for you! Take extra good care of yourself these next few weeks, and rest when you need to.

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    Mnemosyne

    August 16, 2018 at 3:36 pm

    @Manyakitty:

    It’s so I can sleep on the pull-out couch in there while I recover from my ACL surgery. Eventually, I will need to do a true decluttering, but right now it’s just getting shit out of the way so I can get in and out while I’m on crutches.

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    JoeyJoeJoe

    August 16, 2018 at 3:36 pm

    @captnkurt:

    He’s referring to U.S. House seats. Most of the flips have been for other bodies. The House seats have mostly been in strong Republican seats, hence the high GOP win %. Still, shithead is wrong; Democrats won two House seats, Lamb and Jimmy Gomez in a safe Dem seat in CA.

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    Manyakitty

    August 16, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    @Mnemosyne: In that case, I recommend my go-to technique of stacking everything precariously and hoping for the best. heh.

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    NotMax

    August 16, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    Holiday bonus this year: mohair mufflers for all!

    :)

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    Mandarama

    August 16, 2018 at 3:40 pm

    @MoxieM: The cat we lost was one of those Houdini juggernaut cats who absolutely was going to get outside if he had to squeeze through a 1-inch opening or barrel you over. And after years of being lucky, he was hit by a car. So I totally agree with you about keeping cats in! We used to worry about coyotes because of him, although he always came inside our fence after dark and spent quite a bit of time indoors too. Losing him hurt in part because we knew we’d failed to make him an indoor kitty. He wore us down. And we still keep thinking if only we’d paid more attention that morning.

    Our tuxedo cat Lucy is happy to be indoors-only. I think she must be living a Twilight Zone episode, though…first her brother cat disappears, then her brother dog (to the hospital)…she’s giving me the Look like “I am NOT next.”

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    captnkurt

    August 16, 2018 at 3:40 pm

    @JoeyJoeJoe: OK, so the flips have been so far more along the lines of state lege and that sort of thing? (and a certain Senate seat that I notice he conveniently neglects to mention).

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    Mnemosyne

    August 16, 2018 at 3:42 pm

    @Mandarama:

    This is my second time around, and I’m pretty pissed about it. I had 12 good years with my donor ligament, and then I fell on the stairs and ripped it again. So that’s part of my annoyance — I’ve peeved at having to go through this a second time.

    At least we now live in a building with an elevator. And they know to give me anti-emetics with the general anesthesia so I don’t projectile vomit again.

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    Josie

    August 16, 2018 at 3:43 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    You probably don’t remember some years ago that you were one of the commenters who encouraged me when I was getting packed to move 200 miles away. I felt the same feelings you are having now, and I survived. You just have to keep putting one foot in front of the other (metaphorically speaking), and at some point you will get it done. Maybe set a timer so that it isn’t endless each day. I will be thinking of you, both for the packing and for your upcoming surgery and recovery.

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    Mandarama

    August 16, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Oh no! I’m sorry you have to go through it again. Esp. the PT part. That sucks. I hope it will seem quicker and easier this time around.

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    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    @Manyakitty: It sounds beautiful!

    I’m not great with color combinations / color order, and I have to actually put big swatches together in the exact order that they’ll appear on the block or medallion, in order to avoid funky looking combos.

    I finally bought a large, foldable cardboard cutting board at the fabtic shop, glued white butcher paper to the surface of it to give a clean slate for my samples, and now I stick swatches on there in order with pushpins, prop it up against the wall, and move the swatches around until the order / combination looks good. It really helps me to be able to stand back across the room and see the swatches all together, to tell what works and what doesn’t.

    Some snooty quilters will insist that a “project wall” covered in corkboard is essential. Pah! The $15 cheapie cutting board wotks fine for me, and I can just fold it up and stow it under the sofa or in the closet when I’m not using it.

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    Mnemosyne

    August 16, 2018 at 3:49 pm

    @Josie:

    Aww, thank you! I don’t remember that specifically, but we all try to support each other, even when we’re being whiny. ?

    Many things about this situation are annoying me, and I think the craft room cleanup has become where I’m displacing all of the other built-up annoyances. Though it’s still annoying as fuck in its own right, of course.

  102. 102.

    Mandarama

    August 16, 2018 at 3:51 pm

    @Mel: Thank you so much! To everyone. My oldest tries to be very rational (math geek) and reminded me, “Mom, it probably feels like this is some kind of curse. But really, we are just experiencing a shitty coincidence.” I still can’t get used to it when he cusses, even though he just turned 17 and I myself cuss like a sailor.

    My 14-year-old wants a puppy.

  103. 103.

    Josie

    August 16, 2018 at 3:51 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Akbash is the correct spelling. I had one for thirteen years. Best dog ever. I stole her from my son who bought three of them to guard his Boer goats.

  104. 104.

    Corner Stone

    August 16, 2018 at 3:52 pm

    @Mel:

    Some snooty quilters will insist that a “project wall” covered in corkboard is essential. Pah!

    Corkboard or GTFO!

  105. 105.

    Mandarama

    August 16, 2018 at 3:53 pm

    @Mel: This made me laugh–I come from a long line of country women who quilted, and I’m not even sure they used sketches, much less “project walls”! I have no idea how they did it. I think they shared little scrap patterns cut out of newspaper.

  106. 106.

    dexwood

    August 16, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    @MoxieM:
    Thanks. We’re considering the Mint which is the new version – 12 inches, firmer edge construction, and an improved layer to disperse body heat.
    @silvery:
    I’ve had two pretty serious back surgeries in the past so, have wondered if the T & N will be as good for me as my current 12 year old mattress has been, though, the back hardly bothers me throughout the night anymore. For me, as a side-sleeper, my deteriorating hips wake me frequently during the night. Reviews I’ve read from other side-sleepers with hip pain have been pretty positive.

  107. 107.

    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    @Mandarama: My grt grandmother was so scarily good at it that she hand cut a lot of her pieces by just eyeing them. I have never seen anybody else able to do that (I’d make a butchery of it if I tried!!) but then again she had had almost 80 years of experience when she started teaching me.

    My other grt grandma, my grandma, and all their friends used patterns traced on newspaper, typing paper, cut out of plastic coffee can lids, pretty much whatever they had at hand when somebody offered to share a pattern.

    I wince when I hear people insist that you *absolutely MUST!!!* have their special, $35 triangle form and $50 ruler in order to even think about cutting a quilt piece. Pencils got tracing, and a decent pair of scissors do just fine for me!

  108. 108.

    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 4:05 pm

    @Mel: “for”, not “got”. Oops!

    No edit function available when I comment using my phone.

  109. 109.

    Roger Moore

    August 16, 2018 at 4:15 pm

    @captnkurt:
    IIRC, the Democrats have been doing very well at special elections overall, but almost all of their wins have been for state legislatures (where there are more special elections anyway). Most of the special elections for US House have been won by the Republican, but that’s because they’ve been in very red districts. The Democrats have seen impressive swings, but they haven’t been big enough to win the seats. To use a sports metaphor, the Democrats have been beating the spread handily, but not winning the game.

  110. 110.

    Mel

    August 16, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    @Corner Stone: Some of the professional quolting crowd people can get startingly venomous about what “constitutes good quilting hygiene”. It’s like Christopher Guest’s “Best in Show”, only with $150 scissors, and “boutique cottons”.

  111. 111.

    J R in WV

    August 16, 2018 at 6:44 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Your story has been heartwarming. I’m glad for you, and hope your trip home is hassle free and not too overwhelming.

    Welcome home, new person! Keep in touch!

  112. 112.

    J R in WV

    August 16, 2018 at 6:47 pm

    @captnkurt:

    Am I misunderstanding something?

    Yes, Trump is a liar, and unaware of how to count. He is only counting people with an (R) by their names.

  113. 113.

    MoxieM

    August 16, 2018 at 7:15 pm

    @Mandarama: Oh, I’m so sorry– I’ve had those cats who hover by the door and wait for the tiniest opening. Where I used to live (Boston metro) the vets leaned heavily on the “keep your cats inside!” message, and it became rare to see one just wandering around.

    Out where I’ve moved to–and maybe b/c it’s mostly farm country?–the standard is to let them out, but all the hazards apply, Seeing all the notices is very upsetting. It’s as if the message hasn’t gotten around that cats can live a perfectly happy and much safer life indoors.

    @Mnemosyne: Good luck with the surgery. As to the clean up… I have no advice! Tidy is not my strong suit, despite decades of trying. Laundry baskets, perhaps? Ikea boxes typically stack, and if there’s not one near you, they ship.

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