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You are here: Home / Organizing & Resistance / Don't Agonize - Organize / Open Thread: Repubs Running… for Cover

Open Thread: Repubs Running… for Cover

by Anne Laurie|  August 20, 20187:00 pm| 130 Comments

This post is in: Don't Agonize - Organize, Election 2018, Hail to the Hairpiece, Local Races 2018 and earlier, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!

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Don’t lose hope just yet, we’re scaring the bastids. From Jonathan Swan at Axios, “A blue wave is obscuring a red exodus”:

Dave Wasserman, the Cook Political Report’s House analyst, says the most under-covered aspect of 2018 is that “a blue wave is obscuring a red exodus.” Republican House members are retiring at a startling clip — a trend that senior White House adviser Kellyanne Conway told me earlier this year was worrying her more than any other trend affecting the midterms.

What’s happening: There are 43 Republican seats now without an incumbent on the ballot. That’s more than one out of every six Republicans in the House — a record in at least a century, Wasserman says.

Why this matters: Just in the past eight months, the number of vulnerable Republican seats has almost doubled, according to Wasserman. Democrats need to win 23 seats to claim control of the House. Today, the Cook Political Report rates 37 Republican-held seats as toss-ups or worse. At the beginning of the year, it was only 20.

The big picture: Wasserman says the most important sign that 2018 will be a “wave” year — with Democrats winning control of the House — is the intensity gap between the two parties. In polls, Democrats consistently rate their interest in voting as significantly higher than Republicans. And Democrats have voted in extraordinary numbers in the special elections held the past year, despite Republicans holding on to win almost all of these races…

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  1. 1.

    Corner Stone

    August 20, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    MSNBC is reporting that Trump spoke to Reuters and said he could “run” the Mueller investigation if he wanted to. I can find the Reuters article with other craptastic bits but it doesn’t include that quote.

  2. 2.

    Mike R

    August 20, 2018 at 7:07 pm

    Looking forward to the wave, as in waving good bye to as many republican congress members as possible.

  3. 3.

    Corner Stone

    August 20, 2018 at 7:08 pm

    @Mike R: I wish the elections were being held tomorrow.

  4. 4.

    debbie

    August 20, 2018 at 7:13 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Oh, if only he would!

  5. 5.

    Mike in NC

    August 20, 2018 at 7:13 pm

    Republicans in the NC General Assembly hope to boost turnout by putting on the ballot a few bullshit amendments to the state constitution, all merely designed to take power away from the governor — currently a Democrat — and give it to the legislature. It’s such a blatant move that five ex-governors (3 Dem and 2 Rep) have denounced it.

  6. 6.

    MisterForkbeard

    August 20, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    @Corner Stone: Trump said that Trump could run the Mueller investigation if he really wanted to? That’s super weird.

    Maybe just means that it’s a DOJ investigation, which is part of the executive? That seems like trying to credit him with too much reason.

  7. 7.

    JPL

    August 20, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    @Corner Stone: He is not sure that the FED is an independent authority either. It amazes me that the stock market just ignores him.

  8. 8.

    Corner Stone

    August 20, 2018 at 7:18 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: That’s why I wanted the quote itself. The way MSNBC repeats it is that Trump says (para): I’ve stayed out of it. But I don’t have to. I could run it if I wanted to.
    Like he’d can Mueller and the Angry Democrat Thugs and run the investigation into himself.

  9. 9.

    debbie

    August 20, 2018 at 7:18 pm

    @JPL:

    I’ve been keeping MarketWatch up on my monitor at work, watching the ups and downs as they happen. They’re very, very jittery.

  10. 10.

    MisterForkbeard

    August 20, 2018 at 7:19 pm

    @Corner Stone: “I talked to Putin, Manafort, Cohen and my kids and they say everything was legal. Therefore, I’m directing this investigation towards the real villain: Hillary Clinton.”

  11. 11.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 7:30 pm

    Republicans know they’re losing, and are losing it. Canvassing in a wealthy, wealthy area this weekend. Three separate incidents of unusually rude behavior from GOP males at the doors. (And we did have a few Republicans on our lists.) The last was a 63 year old man who opened the door, saw me standing there, and screamed at me “Get the fuck off my property! Get the fuck off my property.”

    I have never ever seen this level of behavior before. It is wealthy white males, ages 51 to 63. I was shocked, but also amused. Cuz they’re doing that out of desperation and fear. We might be doing better than we think.

    Although: it made me wonder about Florida. How much of underperforming there might be due to literally worrying about stand your ground if you get some amped up crank at the door? I left Mr. Charm’s property (above) thinking “he could have shot me.”

  12. 12.

    Another Scott

    August 20, 2018 at 7:33 pm

    @Corner Stone: Twitter (via RawStory):

    Jeff Mason Verified account @jeffmason1

    Exclusive: @realDonaldTrump tells @Reuters he has chosen not to be involved in Mueller probe but is “totally allowed” to be if he wanted to. “I’ve decided to stay out. Now, I don’t have to stay out, as you know. I can go in and I could… do whatever, I could run it if I want.”

    3:03 PM – 20 Aug 2018

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  13. 13.

    WaterGirl

    August 20, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    @Elizabelle: Wait, you’re in Florida? What did I miss?

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    August 20, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    @Another Scott: He is deranged. He honestly thinks he’s king.

  15. 15.

    JPL

    August 20, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    @Another Scott: If you are trump, they let you do it. Truthfully I’m frightened because what happens if they don’t take the house

  16. 16.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    @WaterGirl: No. Virginia. But the screamer’s behavior made me wonder how safe it is to canvass in Florida, with Stand Your Ground.

    ETA: That said, I got 3 solid and wonderful volunteers out of Screamer’s neighborhood. They were excited and happy to see a Democrat out in Moneybags acres.

  17. 17.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 20, 2018 at 7:36 pm

    @Another Scott: @MisterForkbeard: lol oh god he’s five. Also reminiscent of the classic Futurama line about creating one’s own version of something…

  18. 18.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 20, 2018 at 7:37 pm

    @Elizabelle: the first and only time I canvassed in Reno somebody threatened to shoot me and screamed me off their property.

  19. 19.

    NotMax

    August 20, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    @Corner Stone

    TPM, Trump On Mueller Probe: ‘I Could Run It If I Want’

  20. 20.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    @JPL: Put that thought aside. Just work to take the House. Voter registration for at least another 6 weeks or so. Remind folks to check their registration.

    Go out and knock doors. It’s usually a wonderful experience. (This weekend, with the rude rich, was a new one for me.) We can do this, and have to.

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    August 20, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    @Elizabelle: Okay, that makes more sense! Glad you are out working for us.

  22. 22.

    Cheryl Rofer

    August 20, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    Reuters is dribbling out the Trump interview one sound bite at a time. I’m waiting to see it all in one place, preferably a transcript, although I don’t think I’ve seen Reuters do a Trump interview transcript. Who knows what the context of the sound bites actually was.

  23. 23.

    rikyrah

    August 20, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    Scared?
    Who is scared of these muthaphuckas ?
    I’m pissed.
    Phucking enraged.

  24. 24.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 20, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: To be fair, he probably just wanted to watch you die.

  25. 25.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 7:41 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Oh oh. And you don’t want them doing it just to watch you die.

    My condolences. I do wonder if we’re going to see some bad incidents this fall, but that comes with the territory.

  26. 26.

    WaterGirl

    August 20, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    @JPL: What Elizabelle says is true. When I volunteered for Obama in the primaries in 2007 and 2008, I didn’t have time to worry. Even on election day, I was nest door in Indiana, knocking on doors. You just work, work, work and then the chips fall where they fall. Either way, you know you did every single thing you could to help things go the right way.

  27. 27.

    khead

    August 20, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Loudoun Co? I do hope it’s the Comstock supporters who are freaking.

  28. 28.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    @WaterGirl: It’s great exercise. And for that guy’s lungs too, I guess.

    I think it startles them that we are not taking any votes for granted, and are out in their neighborhoods too. All the more reason to keep at it. We could take the Senate too; it’s possible.

  29. 29.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    @khead: It would be Club Dave Brat.

  30. 30.

    JPL

    August 20, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    @Elizabelle: I said that I was scared, not that I was giving up. I saw what the assholes did to Hillary and Ossoff, but it did not take away my will to fight.

  31. 31.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 7:45 pm

    @JPL: Save “scared” for them. Go for resolute.

  32. 32.

    Schlemazel

    August 20, 2018 at 7:45 pm

    @Elizabelle:
    I have done canvassing in the very white Western Suburbs of Minneapolis. I have had doors slammed in my face & been threatened with violence a couple of times but I never thought it could go that far. Had a woman sic her dog on me in 08 but he was all bark. Stay strong it is very very very unlikely these cowardice bastards would hurt you. They are chicken shit.

  33. 33.

    NotMax

    August 20, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    Pay no attention to the oligarch behind the curtain.

    US National Security Advisor John Bolton on Sunday singled out China, North Korea and Iran as countries who could possibly meddle in American elections — as President Donald Trump railed about a probe into Russian interference in 2016. Source

  34. 34.

    Shana

    August 20, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    @Elizabelle: Are you in Fairfax?

    ETA: and I see you’ve already answered.

  35. 35.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 20, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: fair; who doesn’t?

  36. 36.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 20, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    Alain got me my own server spun up just for custom tools like an improved On The Road form, very exciting. So that’ll be fun.

  37. 37.

    chris

    August 20, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    Getting out the vote in Copenhagen.

    You need these in every city in every state. Imagine the howls of outrage.

  38. 38.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 20, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: …and Obama.

  39. 39.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    Also: being out and about emboldens the Democrats who think they are the only rabbits in the neighborhood. They are not. They just fly under radar.

  40. 40.

    Marcopolo

    August 20, 2018 at 7:53 pm

    @Elizabelle: Thanks for canvassing! A Blue wave isn’t going to happen by itself.

    Yesterday I wrote my first 60 GOTV postcards for sending to strong D voters who don’t normally vote in midterms here in MO. We’ll send them off–my Indivisible group has a goal of writing at least 100K– the last week of Oct.

    I’ll be door knocking for McCaskill & Brendan Kelly in IL-12 later this week. Still working to get friends to join me–asking people to write postcards is a hella lot easier.

  41. 41.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 7:55 pm

    @Marcopolo: Yea you!

  42. 42.

    VOR

    August 20, 2018 at 7:56 pm

    @Schlemazel: My father was running for City Council in the small suburb in which we lived so I did some door knocking on his behalf. Of course local races are non-partisan. I remember one guy who demanded to know if he was a Republican or Democrat, no matter how many times I told him it was irrelevant. When told my father leaned Republican, he slammed his door as he shouted “Republicans killed Kennedy!”. This was circa 1990.

  43. 43.

    jc

    August 20, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    I really, really wanted to see a blue wave in Nov. 2016, and I’m still shocked and appalled at the apathy of too many potential voters. This coming Nov. the women and ethnic minority voters (among others) of America had better rise up in a tidal wave and sweep the bastids OUT. This may well be Democracy’s last chance.

  44. 44.

    raven

    August 20, 2018 at 7:58 pm

    Anybody got a Kia Niro? Thoughts?

  45. 45.

    NotMax

    August 20, 2018 at 7:59 pm

    FYI.

    The judge in the death-penalty trial of those accused of carrying out the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks in the U.S. has ruled that prosecutors may not use key FBI interrogations conducted at the Guantánamo detention center soon after years of CIA black site abuse ended.

    Under the war court system, confessions must be voluntary. So prosecutors had already pledged not to use what the captives told their CIA interrogators during their years of secret spy agency custody that included torture. Instead, as a substitute, prosecutors had planned to have FBI agents describe what the suspects told them soon after their September 2006 transfers to Guantánamo in supposedly consensual interviews.

    But the judge, Army Col. James L. Pohl, excluded the FBI interviews, known as “clean team statements,” from trial in a 36-page ruling.
    [snip]
    “In order to provide the defense with substantially the same ability to make a defense as would discovery of or access to the specific classified information, the government will not be permitted introduce any FBI Clean Team Statement from any of the accused for any purpose.”
    [snip]
    Prosecutors have 10 days to decide whether to appeal to the U.S. Court of Military Commissions Review, which can direct Pohl to reinstate the evidence. Such an appeal would likely force cancellation of the next round of pretrial hearings scheduled to take place at Guantánamo Sept. 10-14. Source

  46. 46.

    Marcopolo

    August 20, 2018 at 7:59 pm

    @JPL: Like Elizabelle says: find a way to get involved. A $5 donation to a red to blue campaign; writing some GOTV postcards; figuring out NOW how to free up time on the weekend, Monday, and Tuesday of the midterm election so you can be a poll monitor or drive folks to the polls or do GOTV calls or texts. Every little bit helps. And helps to keep you busy & sane too!

  47. 47.

    Uncle Ebeneezer

    August 20, 2018 at 8:00 pm

    @Elizabelle: Thank you so much, to you and anyone who does canvassing.

    Also, to group: texting, phone banking, post-carding and providing transportation are other ways to help if you can’t canvass. SwingLeft and multiple other orgs are doing this stuff constantly.

  48. 48.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 20, 2018 at 8:00 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Do try to separate the “Add photo” and “remove photo” buttons a bit, I’ve clicked on the “remove photo” by accident more than once.

  49. 49.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 20, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: yep, gonna be a lot better don’t worry.

  50. 50.

    CarolPW

    August 20, 2018 at 8:07 pm

    @chris: That is spectacular!

  51. 51.

    Schlemazel

    August 20, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    @VOR:
    Phone banking & door knocking can make you really understand why democracy can never work. Too many people who are too stupid to live let alone vote. It is depressing but we have to soldier on.

    The worst ones – and I just ran into one of these week before last while calling – is a loon that is on your side. People who think the lizard king is behind all that is wrong with the world and they are using chemtrails in vaccines . . . but they are a sure D vote . . . sigh

  52. 52.

    chris

    August 20, 2018 at 8:14 pm

    @CarolPW: Yeah, I hope it doesn’t cause a diplomatic incident if the shitgibbon sees it.

  53. 53.

    evap

    August 20, 2018 at 8:14 pm

    I just signed up to write GOTV postcards! I’ve done door-to-door and phone calling and found both a bit outside my comfort zone. Writing postcards is so much easier for me and apparently it really makes a difference. Postcards to voters

  54. 54.

    NeenerNeener

    August 20, 2018 at 8:14 pm

    @raven: Got a Niro at the end of January. Love it. I got the plug-in version, so I had to have an outlet installed in my garage if I wanted to charge it faster than overnight. I went 2 months on a single tank of gas. It worked out to be about 148 MPG.

    For my next trick, I’m having solar panels installed on the garage roof this fall.

  55. 55.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 8:17 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:
    You should have screamed right back and told them they had no right to shoot you in cold blood on their property.

  56. 56.

    raven

    August 20, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    @NeenerNeener: Nice! I don’t think we’ll probably get a plug-in but the 100,000 Ten Year warranty has me leaning toward one.

  57. 57.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    @jc:
    All the indicators seem to be pointing in that direction. I read an opinion piece that said that the Dems would probably have to actively try to lose this election. Not taking anything for granted though. Still feel really optimistic.

  58. 58.

    sukabi

    August 20, 2018 at 8:20 pm

    @Another Scott: what has been the push back on that statement? Anything short of “No you can’t you ignorant rotten mango. The Special Counsel was set up by the DOJ, which is an independent separate co-equal branch of the government that you don’t control. ” isn’t enough.

  59. 59.

    NeenerNeener

    August 20, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    @raven: You’ll be surprised at how close the plug-in gets to the price of the regular hybrid once all the state and Federal rebates are applied.

  60. 60.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    Democrats have voted in extraordinary numbers in the special elections held the past year, despite Republicans holding on to win almost all of these races…

    I was under the impression that Dems had been kicking ass this year and last in special elections.

  61. 61.

    CarolPW

    August 20, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    @chris: He is a walking diplomatic incident so I don’t think it matters. Sent it on to a friend that was abroad (not an ex-pat, on long-term business assignments) during many elections. Had to work very hard to make sure to get the ballot back in time, because they send them out late which seems to be largely a state-level rather than federal problem. Lots of options for getting your fed ballot in, but municipal elections seem to be really problematic.

  62. 62.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 20, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    @raven: If I had a place to plug one in, I’d get a plug in hybrid.

    ETA: I do love my Prius.

  63. 63.

    TenguPhule

    August 20, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:

    I was under the impression that Dems had been kicking ass this year and last in special elections.

    Only in the local offices. We collected only a few scalps at the federal level.

  64. 64.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 20, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    Some Antifa geniuses beat up a Bernie Sanders voter counter-protesting the alt-right rally in Portland because he was holding an American flag. https://t.co/VcPvOzm3Hg

    — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) August 21, 2018

  65. 65.

    JPL

    August 20, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    @Marcopolo: Since I’m involved in local politics, I’ve knocked on plenty of doors. I simply made a general statement, that I don’t think it’s a given we can take the house, and I’m concerned

  66. 66.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 20, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: this is not very good advice goku

  67. 67.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    Not a bad thing. Building up control at the local and state level is pretty damn important, both in building up the bench and taking power back from the GOP. I’m just a little afraid it’s only temporary because of the awfulness of Trump.

  68. 68.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 20, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: Most states have a castle doctrine.

    ETA: One thing I’ve learned being a photographer, if the property owners says don’t take pics, don’t take pics.

  69. 69.

    Schlemazel

    August 20, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    @jc:
    At the start of the cycle the Cook Report listed 20 GOP seats as ‘tossup’. Today they list 37 GOP seats as tossup.

    I am holding my breath. IF we can GOtV it will be at least 40 flipped seats. Never give up, never surrender. We can do thins thing. We really have to.

    Sadly, I don’t think we can turn the Senate (18% of all voters control the Senate). We have to try if for no other reason that to put the fear of Pasta into the GOP. Let hope for miracles.

  70. 70.

    Duane

    August 20, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Careful. You could end up singing the Folsom Prison Blues.

  71. 71.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 20, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    @JPL: that I don’t think it’s a given we can take the house,
    Complacency is an enemy. Mid-term voting patterns (older and whiter), gerrymandering, voter suppression, dark/soft money… all those things are still out there.

    I think the GOPer who fessed up about going after the safety net (see Cole’s post below) gave Dems a gift, but it’s up to them/us to figure out what to do with it

  72. 72.

    NotMax

    August 20, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    Idiotus maximus.

    Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee — hero or villain? Inquiring Mississippi Republican U.S. Senate candidate Chris McDaniel wants to know.

    McDaniel took to Twitter and Facebook on Thursday to conduct his own survey, asking readers, “In light of all the political correctness and leftist hysteria, I’m curious about what you think: How should Robert E. Lee be remembered?”

    McDaniel’s journey into Civil War history comes as his campaign attempts to gain traction in a three-person race to permanently fill the seat of retired U.S. Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Miss. Source

    Follow-up.

    McDaniel is facing off against GOP Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith, who was appointed to the Mississippi Senate seat after Thad Cochran’s (R) resignation earlier this year, and Democrat Mike Espy.

    McDaniel is trailing Hyde-Smith by 10 points in the race, according to a poll leaked from Hyde-Smith’s campaign and obtained by BuzzFeed News earlier this month. Source

  73. 73.

    Mnemosyne

    August 20, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    “Antifa” in Portland is almost certainly Black Bloc, not just random protesters.

  74. 74.

    Mnemosyne

    August 20, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:

    Um, yeah, verbally confronting someone who has a gun is a really good way to get yourself shot. Don’t do that.

  75. 75.

    Schlemazel

    August 20, 2018 at 8:30 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:
    The single fastest rising event leading to shootings in the US currently is called “You don’t have guts enough to pull the trigger”
    The victim challenges the courage of the attacker & dares him to shoot.

    I would advise against your strategy and go more for deescalation & evacuation (of the property first, of the bowles can come later)

  76. 76.

    JMG

    August 20, 2018 at 8:30 pm

    @TenguPhule: A Senate seat in Alabama is a pretty big scalp I think.

  77. 77.

    Platonailedit

    August 20, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    And Democrats have voted in extraordinary numbers in the special elections held the past year, despite Republicans holding on to win almost all of these races…

    I thought it was the dems that won these special elections last year?

  78. 78.

    NotMax

    August 20, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    The total number of seats which change party is the key. Excepting only 3 of the past 21 mid-term elections, the president’s party has lost seats in the House.

  79. 79.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    Not when I have moral superiority on my side!//

    I didn’t know the person had a gun on their person.

  80. 80.

    Mnemosyne

    August 20, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:

    I didn’t know the person had a gun on their person.

    When someone says, “Get off my property or I’ll shoot you,” it’s a bad bet to assume they don’t have a gun close at hand. Just walk away.

  81. 81.

    Marcopolo

    August 20, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: So maybe provide a link for whatever you are citing? Off the top of my head, I can say D’s have flipped roughly 40 state leg & other races including Conor Lamb & Doug Jones. On the other hand, only two of the eight (think those #s are right) US congressional specials have flipped. But you have to keep in mind they were all deep Red districts.

  82. 82.

    TenguPhule

    August 20, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    @JMG:

    A Senate seat in Alabama is a pretty big scalp I think.

    Yes, it was.

  83. 83.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    @Schlemazel:
    So you’re saying that saying “no balls no balls you won’t” isn’t a good strategy to avoid getting shot? That’s not very surprising.

  84. 84.

    NotMax

    August 20, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    OT. Computer models are (no pun intended) all over the map for Hurricane Lane, re: Hawaii. The bulk of them lay out a track a goodly distance offshore, but it’s too early yet to not be wary.

  85. 85.

    TenguPhule

    August 20, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    @Platonailedit: Local state offices. Nationally we got only 2 of 8 at the federal level.

  86. 86.

    TenguPhule

    August 20, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    @NotMax: Knowing our luck in this timeline….

  87. 87.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 20, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    @NotMax: One of those 3 was after the House impeached President Clinton, the other was the year after 9/11.

  88. 88.

    TenguPhule

    August 20, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    @NotMax:

    “In light of all the political correctness and leftist hysteria, I’m curious about what you think: How should Robert E. Lee be remembered?”

    All public toilets should be rechristened as Roberts.

  89. 89.

    Matt McIrvin

    August 20, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    @Elizabelle: Ah, you’re in my sister’s district.

  90. 90.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 20, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    what we’re up against

    Charlie Kirk @ charliekirk11
    Athletes kneeling for the National Anthem say they are protesting police brutality

    theOfficerTatum pointed out that only 13 unarmed Black people have been killed by cops in 2018

    These protests aren’t about that, they’re about hating America and hating Trump

    “only”

  91. 91.

    NotMax

    August 20, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA

    And the third was the first election after Prohibition was repealed.

    ;)

  92. 92.

    Matt McIrvin

    August 20, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    @VOR:

    I remember one guy who demanded to know if he was a Republican or Democrat, no matter how many times I told him it was irrelevant.

    I don’t blame him. These days I figure there are races that are overtly partisan, and races where the party lines are being hidden from us.

  93. 93.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    @NotMax:

    “In light of all the political correctness and leftist hysteria, I’m curious about what you think: How should Robert E. Lee be remembered?”

    As a slaving traitor to his country. End of discussion. This isn’t rocket science.

  94. 94.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    Probably sound advice. Honestly, that’s what I probably would have done.

  95. 95.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: Yes. The fighting 7th.

    Where does your sister live? I am in Henrico.

  96. 96.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 20, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: and here I am! Alive and… if unwell, not because of that

  97. 97.

    Lapassionara

    August 20, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    @Marcopolo: Ditto that.

  98. 98.

    chris

    August 20, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I was just reading Kevin Kruse on that very tweet. Only 13…

    Let's talk for a second about how we count murders, and how numbers hide the real story.https://t.co/WkD8AjnID9— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) 20 August 2018

  99. 99.

    Mnemosyne

    August 20, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    I’m feeling weirdly paranoid about this chest x-ray I have to get before my knee surgery, like I’m convinced they’re going to find something horrible.

    In my defense, my stepbrother died of lung cancer at 51, though he was an ex-smoker who served in the Persian Gulf in the mid-80s.

  100. 100.

    Matt McIrvin

    August 20, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    @Elizabelle: Her address is in Richmond, but I think she’s actually outside the city limits. Not far from Henrico.

  101. 101.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 20, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    @Mnemosyne: aw, you’ll be fine.

  102. 102.

    Lapassionara

    August 20, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    @evap: Yes. Postcards are effective. They are a good reminder to vote, and if a voter gets a handwritten postcard, that can make a difference. Thank you for doing this.

  103. 103.

    Dan B

    August 20, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    @raven: Hello from housebound in Seattle. We’ve got unhealthy air from forest fires hundreds of miles away. People are starting to make the connection to a fiery apocalypse for the western US. So a plug in hybrid would be much appreciated. We’ve had a Nissan Leaf for years and love the much lower maintenance. I’m guessing that the less you use the ICE the lower the wear and maintenance. We’ve got 99 percent green electricity but even if your utility is coal the greenhouse emissions of an electric motor are still lower than ICE emissions. And our cost for “fuel” is one quarter what gasoline would be.

  104. 104.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    Had the best day at Cedar Point. Best amusement park in America. Couldn’t pick a favorite coaster but the Gatekeeper, the Maverick, and the new Steel Avenger (formerly the Mean Streak) comes close, even though that last one physically hurt towards the end; I kept being pulled out of my seat and the lap bar hurt my thighs. Rollercoasters are humanity’s greatest invention.

  105. 105.

    Matt McIrvin

    August 20, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: Oh, man, wish I could be there. I’ve been hearing people raving about Steel Vengeance all summer.

    (I’m fascinated by roller coasters, but feel like a faker as a coaster fan, because I haven’t actually ridden a huge number of them–I was terrified of them during the usual prime coaster-riding years and was in single digits until the past decade. There are people whose hobby is making pilgrimages and have ridden hundreds.)

  106. 106.

    Baud

    August 20, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    @Mnemosyne: When canvassing, it’s good practice to get off people’s property if they tell you to, even if they don’t have a gun.

  107. 107.

    Elizabelle

    August 20, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    @Schlemazel: Yea you, too. And in Minnesota nice, too. Shame on them.

  108. 108.

    frosty

    August 20, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    Too many people who are too stupid to live let alone vote.

    I got one of these canvassing for Kerry. He said he had been a Kennedy fan, so I told him Kerry’s initials were JFK too. That clinched the sale, that’s all it took. Le Sigh.

  109. 109.

    Marcopolo

    August 20, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    @evap: Good for you! Think about using a couple of colored pens when you write. I do the main message in good old black, maybe a second line in a color, and I always write “Your vote really matters!” last in color w/ the word matters underlined.

    Btw, your writing GOTV postcards really matters! ;)

  110. 110.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    August 20, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:
    I’ve probably rode a dozen so far. Two years ago I went to Six Flags Magic Mountain and I remember riding the DC themed rides. They were alright but the Green Lantern ride was absolute torture because the operators didn’t balance the swinging train properly. So my father and I ended up being swung like ragdolls in our restraints. It physically hurt and when we finally came to rest at the end, our car was turned upside down with us facing the ground. My dad literally couldn’t breathe because his diaphragm was being pressed into the shoulder bar restraints. It wasn’t a fun time.

  111. 111.

    Marcopolo

    August 20, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    @Lapassionara: Hey you!
    Lapassionara joined me writing postcards yesterday. There were 30-40 folks who showed up—as she can attest, I was the only male! Yes, it’s will be women pulling our collective @ss out of the fire this nov.

  112. 112.

    Matt McIrvin

    August 20, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: I think the Green Lantern model is called a Zac Spin; it looks like a torture device to me and I don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone actually enjoying them. I’ve decided to stay away from those, and also from any and all stand-up roller coasters, because I’ve noticed that in YouTube comments on the latter, the phrase “crushed my balls” comes up alarmingly often.

  113. 113.

    Mnemosyne

    August 20, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I know — there a 99.9 percent chance that I’ll be fine. I still get paranoid about that 0.1 percent until it’s over, though.

  114. 114.

    Miss Bianca

    August 20, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    @WaterGirl: Truth! : )

  115. 115.

    zhena gogolia

    August 20, 2018 at 10:05 pm

    @Marcopolo:

    I signed up with ACLU to write postcards, but we’re not supposed to mention a party. Was that stupid? They’re the only ones who asked me.

  116. 116.

    Ruckus

    August 20, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    There isn’t much comforting that I can give you, you have to find that in yourself. Over the last few years I’ve had more procedures, including x-rays with nuclear contrast, and it is sometimes scary and sometimes terrifying. But I’m here, the things they were looking for were freaking serious, stroke, cancer, heart blockage, joint replacements, etc. They found nothing. OK the cancer but that wasn’t found with an x-ray, that was biopsy. I’ve had so many chest x-rays before other procedures that I’ve lost count.

    I’d say be glad they are doing it, you want to find things early, never late. Early is fixable. Besides you’ve had them before, they never found anything.

  117. 117.

    Ruckus

    August 20, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    @Marcopolo:

    Yes, it’s will be women pulling our collective @ss out of the fire this nov.

    Isn’t it always?

  118. 118.

    karen marie

    August 20, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: To be fair, when Republicans come to my door, I tell them to get the fuck away from my door, out of my apartment complex, and that if I see them loitering for one hot second, I’ll call the cops on them. And I been doing this since well before Trump.

  119. 119.

    Ruckus

    August 20, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    @Ruckus:
    The only funny bit was after my angiogram they told me I had to lay flat on my back for 6 hrs, couldn’t move. I did it, I don’t have a clue how but I do remember talking non stop for the entire time. Every nurse and doc got an earful, my buddy, he sat there for the whole time, never once told me to shut the fuck up. Well not until we got in the car that is.

  120. 120.

    Ruckus

    August 20, 2018 at 10:25 pm

    @karen marie:
    Living in bluest CA I’ve never had one come to my door but they have emailed me. I emailed them back. I used my best navy language school swearing and everything. I did get a second email from one moron, I upped the return ante. Not another peep. Oh except from his wife scolding us for rejecting his highness. Given this was the third email from the same family, I upped the ante again. She declined to reply. Message sent, message received.

  121. 121.

    Kristine

    August 20, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    @Marcopolo: Signed up for postcards–thanks for the link!

  122. 122.

    Mnemosyne

    August 20, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    @Ruckus:

    I know — I’m mostly being a baby because I hate medical shit. And I’m extra annoyed right now because I can’t get anyone at my doctor’s office to answer email or the phone (it’s always the answering service). Gah!

  123. 123.

    columbusqueen

    August 20, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    So the Orange Shitgibbon will be in my bonny town Friday night. Any ideas on an effective protest, jackels? I like flipping the bird where he can see it, but I’d like more suggestions.

  124. 124.

    Marcopolo

    August 20, 2018 at 11:17 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I think a lot of different groups are now doing postcard writing. There’s the original Postcards to Voters group that I provided a link to earlier, there are candidates who are doing it as a part of their campaigns (we had two D congressional candidates doing that here in St. Louis), there are Indivisible groups (my local Indivisible group is who I write with), there’s the ACLU. Everybody has their own rules.

    Our group has a rule not to take photos of postcard writing (for privacy reasons) but we are encouraged to invite friends to our scheduled postcard parties (3 scheduled per week starting as of yesterday), to take packets of 20 postcards home to write or pass out to friends, to set up our own postcard writing parties. Here in St Louis we got started with the original group but are now running our own campaigns–looking at the campaigns listed on the PtV website, the last ones we did with them seem to be early this Spring. Our most recent campaign was writing postcards for Wesley Bell for St Louis County Prosecuting Atty. We wrote 58,000 GOTV postcards for him & he beat a 28-year incumbent.

    Anyways, if anyone here knows folks in St Louis who are looking for a way to ease into helping win the 2018 midterms please send them here & ask them to join us.

  125. 125.

    Marcopolo

    August 20, 2018 at 11:19 pm

    @Kristine: Bravo!

  126. 126.

    burnspbesq

    August 20, 2018 at 11:37 pm

    Now that Janz is in a dead heat with Nunes in the most recent polling, I think it’s time for the SoCal jackals to plan a road trip to Fresno to do some canvassing.

  127. 127.

    sgrAstar

    August 21, 2018 at 1:00 am

    @Schlemazel: also too, canvass in pairs. We always did that during the Obama 08 campaign.

  128. 128.

    sgrAstar

    August 21, 2018 at 1:14 am

    @sukabi: the DOJ is not a separate branch of government- it’s part of the Executive, and I don’t think we want to see the preznit make a play for control…too many SCOTUS judges already seem inclined toward a vision of the unitary executive. UGH.

  129. 129.

    Vhh

    August 21, 2018 at 1:25 am

    @NotMax: So much for military trials. I bet a lot of these guys will be released, with the US humiliated because of abuses. Meanwhile, civilian courts have convicted lots of real terrorists.

  130. 130.

    SWMBO

    August 21, 2018 at 4:04 am

    @columbusqueen: Dead thread but have you tried to book the British Trump Baby balloon to fly overhead?

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