So yesterday, while half of Team Trump was being sent to jail for decades, over at Trump TV aka Fox News, it was wall to wall Mollie Tibbitts as they attempted to distract and deflect with their ongoing attempts to start a race war over illegal immigration. Not only is the family of Miss Tibbitts not having any of it, but we seem to have run into a little bit of a hitch with the narrative:
Cristhian Rivera, the man accused in the death of Mollie Tibbetts, worked for a Brooklyn-area farm owned by the brother of a prominent Iowa Republican.
In a statement Tuesday night, Dane Lang, of Yarrabee Farms, said Rivera was an “employee in good standing” and was “shocked to hear” Rivera was implicated.
In the statement, Dane Lang said Rivera worked for Yarrabee Farms for four years and “was vetted through the government’s E-Verify system.”
Oh.
debbie
Trump’s desperate. He’ll never stop saying Mollie’s name.
waspuppet
“Oh. Well, better just reinstate the paper bag test and not let anyone darker in. You know, to be safe.”
Quaker in a Basement
Aha! Obama let him in!
[/rwnj]
Viva BrisVegas
“Yarrabee Farms is not registered in the government system, though, which is a requirement to run a check on even one employee.”
Oops.
BretH
So interesting that when someone like this commits a crime all we hear from one side is “build the wall” and “we need new laws to stop this”. Yet when a mass murder with a gun happens all we had from the same side is “we don’t need new laws, we just need to enforce the laws we have’.
Ruckus
@BretH:
Funny how that works ins’t it?
It’s almost like they were racists or something…….
RepubAnon
It was all a Deep State false flag operation to hide Hillary’s involvement. See, Mollie was about to expose the real location of PizzaGate…
(/snark – I hope. )
TenguPhule
Trumpsters: “This merely proves that the only good immigrant is a dead one! Kill em all!!”
I wish I was kidding.
seaboogie
Kudos to Mollie’s family speaking out – in their grief and pain – to call out the opportunistic, racist bullshit.
RedDirtGirl
@BretH: Well said.
Platonailedit
@BretH: white fright. 24×7.
A Ghost To Most
Props to her family for standing up to this fuckery. I hope they are ready for the threats.
Wag
@BretH:
This.
Cookie monster
I saw a headline claiming the employer stuff was with a stolen ID.
Doesn’t really matter; the demonization of immigrants is abhorrent but will no doubt gather pace with the usual suspects, and her grieving family will get no peace from those looking to make hay from tragedy, all while condemning them for not “caring enough” – I’ve already seen “what matters is the rest of us are protected”.
In other words, post title is succinct yet accurate.
Adam L Silverman
Owens did her usually schtick. She dug her heels in and started screaming at everyone.
Ken
@Cookie monster:
The Republican farm-owner used a stolen ID to access the E-Verify system?
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
You know under my proposed “Exterminate the Republicans” plan, she’d be one of the first to go.
/Just saying
Adam L Silverman
And it looks like the usual suspects have decided to weaponize this tragedy.
Platonailedit
@Adam L Silverman:
Laws for thee, none for me.
NotMax
Oh, come on.
Ain’t no farms in Brooklyn. In Queens, yes.
:)
Gex
Local rag doing their part to undermine that narrative: U.S.-born American citizen in country legally charged in teen’s death
A Ghost To Most
@Adam L Silverman: More proof that christian fascism is not wholly a white people problem.
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: I think you may want to dial things back a bit. All someone has to do is offer Candace money to rep a different line of BS and she’ll do it. That’s how she went from being anti-Trump to being pro-Trump. Kirk and his TPUSA backers started paying her more money than a mid 20 something with almost no professional could ever hope to make.
Mike in NC
FOX News will be going with 24/7 Mollie coverage from now until November.
Remember back when FOX interviewers clumsily tried to put words in Joe Biden’s mouth to paint him as a Socialist/Marxist back in 2007? They’re planning to dust that off for the mid-terms.
eemom
Note the conspicuous absence of the words “politicizing tragedy” in the emmessemm commentary on this — in contrast to every single episode of mass murder by gun. Where’s all those thoughts and prayers, motherfuckers?
Also kind of funny how nobody anywhere expresses the slightest bit of surprise that trump would sink this low. “Business” as usual.
Platonailedit
@Mike in NC: Thread title.
mad citizen
Haven’t said it in a while, and copied it from other jackals, but fuck these people. And the Russian operations.
Cookie monster
@Ken: the suspect did.
Adam L Silverman
@A Ghost To Most: I think in this case it’s solely financial opportunism. If someone were to pay her more to say something else, she would say it.
Gvg
Actually the system is working this time. The cops caught the person who did it and he will go to jail after a fair trial.
No system will prevent all murders because some people of all kinds, every single “kind” are bad.
There are more murders by natives than immigrants. Maybe we should all stop having children and increase immigration. That would make more sense than trying to twist this into an excuse for isolationism. The poor family is still getting a better result by seeing the hopefully correct killer brought to justice and knowing what happened instead of wondering forever. And over sensationalized murders bring out a kind of rabid pack frenzy in reporters and news watchers so that this is going to result in a lot of extra hounding of the families. I have an ex in law whose sisters murder made national news. His family and the other victims families had to hide from reporters for months including help from the police in anonymous hotel stays. Also the prosecutor used it for political ambition and a couple of books got written….the president using a relatives murder will make for a very bad time for the family.
oldgold
Rivera’s lawyer is claiming
he was not here illegally.
https://amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/1064567002?__twitter_impression=true
Mary G
Didn’t I see somewhere that the good Republican’s farm did not actually check him on E-Verify because they don’t use it, and tried to blame a clerical error, plus his lawyer says he’s not illegal? But good for the cousin for reminding Candace that he is a monster because he’s a murderer, not because he’s an immigrant.
eric
@Adam L Silverman: KCJJ has a statement from the tibbetts family from last night on its Facebook page. I assume it is legit. i cannot embed it. It is also a powerful statement.
Adam L Silverman
Speaking of people who will do or say anything for money…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/trump-calls-this-white-house-defender-wonderful-he-was-fired-from-his-previous-job-for-sexual-harassment/2018/08/22/1d15ba48-a59a-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html?utm_term=.dfae416f62cb
Much more at the link.
Ken
@Cookie monster: But Yarrabee Farms didn’t check the documentation, did they? At least not with E-Verify, assuming the reports that they weren’t registered to use the system are correct. Whatever documents the suspect presented might as well have been a cocktail napkin with “OK TO WORK” scribbled on it in green crayon, for all the care that Yarrabee Farms exercised.
Mnemosyne
@Cookie monster:
Individuals don’t use e-Verify, companies do. So why does the farm that claimed they checked his ID not have an e-Verify account?
Though, to be fair, his employers are probably in shock right now. Finding out that a 7-year employee is a murderer is pretty sucky no matter what.
Adam L Silverman
@eric: Here you go:
http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/pib/Releases/2018/08-22-2018_DCI_StatementFromFamilyOfMollieTibbetts.shtml
Mnemosyne
@Gvg:
Funny how these same right-wingers swear up and down that there’s no possible way to stop school shootings by disgruntled white men, but we could totally halt all crime by Black and brown men if we just took away all of their rights.
Maybe the way to stop mass shootings is to put a monitoring ankle bracelet on every white guy over 18. Sorry, fellas, we just have to do everything we can to prevent you from committing a crime.
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: Yep and CNN has suspended Paris immediately.
Cookie monster
@Mnemosyne: I’ve no idea, I didn’t mention everify.
Simply remarked that at least one headline claimed his ID WAS stolen, and it doesn’t matter because it’s all an attempt to demonize people regardless.
lamh36
National Enquirer saying… sorry Chump ur on ur own?
rats abandoning ship?
Ken
@Mnemosyne: Seven years? And no one noticed, when Yarrabee Farms filed the required annual tax statements showing wages, withholding, and FICA for an employee that they believed they had legally hired, that he was not in fact legally employable?
Goodness, I’d hate to think there might be any irregularities in yet another prominent Republican’s taxes.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Good. He’s always had that creepy look.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Probably offered up everything to keep from getting charged. Despite what some folks are saying, this wasn’t covered by the 1st Amendment protection for publishers, this is a conspiracy to violate campaign finance regulations and given the money went from Cohen to him and back to Cohen and then on to MacDougal – and to whomever else Pecker and Cohen did this with to cover for the President – there’s money laundering charges in play. I doubt Pecker is willing to go to jail for the President.
Mandalay
I wonder if any brown stuff will be hitting a fan over this….
Being charitable, I can understand that the check should have been made, but somehow never happened due to a snafu. But it’s really hard to see how you accidentally assert that a check was made when murder is involved.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: There may also be tax law and tax liabilities involved her too for both Pecker and his company.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
I must admit I’m very surprised, but I hope NPR will sever ties with Dennard.
zhena gogolia
@Adam L Silverman:
There was somebody here pushing it yesterday in the midst of all the Manafort-Cohen drama. I had no idea who Mollie Tibbets was.
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: I’m not, he has that vibe – even through the TV. As for NPR, who knows.
gwangung
Am now in an incipient Twitter feud with a scumbag who insists Sam Lucass should have butted out and not inserted themselves into the matter at hand.
Assholes, all.
Mnemosyne
@Cookie monster:
There are a lot of conflicting stories swirling around right now. The suspect’s lawyer is claiming that he’s here legally, while other people are making the claims that you saw. His employer said he was hired legally, but had to retract their original claim that he had been checked through E-Verify. It may take a few days to clear it all up, and the right-wing conspiracy assholes are just making it harder to figure out WTF the facts are.
Mnemosyne
@gwangung:
Don’t you just love the self-righteous assholes who insist that they care more about a murder victim that they read a couple of online alerts about than the victim’s family possibly could?
Suzanne
So the 18-year-old cousin of one of my colleagues was murdered about three weeks ago in Chicago, on that Saturday that had just a crazy amount of crime. Apparently the murderer (a citizen) was shooting at someone else and hit her.
I bet you didn’t hear about it. I bet you can guess why.
YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)
@Mandalay: E-verify is a voluntary program. I believe employers are still required to have employees fill out an I-9 form indicating their employment eligibility status. The last time I looked it was required to be held on file with the employer and subject to inspection on demand. It requires photo copies of the identification documents provided.
lamh36
Chump tweeeted:
He ain’t foolin’ nobody”
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: He looking to study it so the US can formally protest or because he wants to do something similar in the US?
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman:
Like I said, he ain’t fooling nobody ??
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: I got the distraction part, not that you or Zandar are wrong, you aren’t.
Jay
Learned something new about racism today,
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.com/2018/08/more-on-diane-blain-trudeau-heckler-and.html?m=1
The Nazi Heckler from Storm Alliance was part of a group of 15,
“Replying to @HNHughson
Souche = stump. When Anglo media translates it, they often go with “old stock Quebecois”, but the term is far more racially charged. “Québecois de souche” is about purity of bloodlines – anyone whose family doesn’t date to New France. Especially not non-white Quebecois. #cdnpoli”
It’s not a “new” form of racism either,
Waynski
@Mnemosyne: I’d wear an ankle bracelet. I’m a rather boring white man, as many here can attest – just don’t give me guff about an evening cocktail.
lamh36
lamh36
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: Definitely agree that Paris Dennard is creepy. The creepiness came through the TV. Not at all surprised to hear the news that he was fired for sexual harassment.
No One You Know
@Mnemosyne:
May be OT, but
I have a situation.
I have twice submitted valid I-9 credentials for my government job, which I got through a remote recruiter (several timezones away). The recruiter keeps saying my DL and my SS aren’t enough ( since the employer is remote, the notary attested on a photocopy that she had examined originals).
I am working without any timesheets or (They claim) valid proof of status. So I’m not getting paid either and I don’t know what they want.
Suggestions on my next move? I think I have to tell the boss. The recruiter will sue me I’d I lose the job, although I live ibn a right to work state.
Ironically, I work with CJIS systems.
NotMax
@lamh36
Which is enough to have her brought back into court for giving false statement under questioning during jury selection.
HumboldtBlue
@Jay:
This is why I read comments.
Thanks.
YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)
@No One You Know: https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/acceptable-documents/list-documents/form-i-9-acceptable-documents Recuiter appears to be wrong. But here is a list of accepted documents.
Chitown Kev
@NotMax: To be fair, she stated that she voted guilty on all 18 counts, so while she had a bias, the evidence presented by the prosecution overwhelemd that bias.
boatboy_srq
What will we do for Mollie? How about boycott the perp’s Republican employer, without whose help the GOTea wouldn’t have a story? You want to keep those bad hambres out of the US, then maybe you should stop hiring them.
/s
The Pale Scot
I’m having a hard believing that this guy was able to use a false ID for 4 years without the help of the employers to defraud E-verify. From what I read it’s known that he came into the US as a juvenile. If he’s not working under the table there is a paper trail. Or he showed a state picture ID and a SS card of another man, that never came back even after 4 years.
Oh, the farm did not use E-verify, they just sent the SS# to the SSA. That’s not vetting. The family avoided making sure he’s legal to work ’cause profits.
Karma’s a bitch
The Pale Scot
@Mnemosyne:
Ya’d need to bring that down to 10 or so. Really, the onset of puberty would be best
Tehanu
@seaboogie: @A Ghost To Most: @Mnemosyne: What you all said. I hope they don’t end up like the Sandy Hook parents who had to move because of the rightwing crazies.