On Fox & Friends, Trump suggested that it should be illegal for people facing prosecution to cooperate with the government in exchange for a reduced sentence: "It's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal…it's not a fair thing." https://t.co/SCwHa5H3QU
— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) August 23, 2018
Trump getting (bad) legal advice from TV? He told Fox that Cohen "pled to two counts that aren't a crime. Which nobody understands. In fact, I watched a number of shows. Sometimes you get some pretty good information by watching shows. Those two counts aren't even a crime…"
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) August 23, 2018
(One of the Law & Order series? Or does Fox News show Matlock re-runs?)
Somewhere Jeff Sessions is sitting at his desk kneading his temples. One of the big, go-to arguments from prosecutors and law-and-order conservatives against sentencing reform is that it will reduce incentive for defendants to flip. https://t.co/taJzWWfJrR
— CJ Ciaramella (@cjciaramella) August 23, 2018
Unlike the amoral value-less libs, Republicans teach their kids that [checks notes] law enforcement is garbage and people who make deals are rats
— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) August 23, 2018
they should just cut the BS and say “we are appalled that these tools of the carceral state, which were designed specifically to oppress minorities and the powerless, are so vast and expansive that they can be wielded successfully against the president himself”
— Daniel (@wimpanzee) August 23, 2018
Trump to Fox: "flipping almost ought to be illegal. 30-40 years I've been watching flippers"
32 years ago, crime boss Tony Salerno, who supplied Trump Plaza concrete, was convicted of racketeering. His top deputy flipped to help FBI
lawyer for both Salerno and Trump: Roy Cohn
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) August 23, 2018
the US Attorney who oversaw the government's case, btw, was Rudy Giuliani. his lead prosecutor was Michael Chertoff
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) August 23, 2018
Wasn't it Mueller who helped put Gotti away?
— NanaOf7IsWhyIFight (@nanakim1956fl) August 23, 2018
LET. US. SAVOR!
Now, maybe Trump just likes to use all-caps when he's in a good mood! Maybe his good mood kept him up past 1 am! Maybe (and this really could be true) these tweets are performative—a way of revving up his base.
Or maybe, he wasn't in quite as high spirits as the aide suggested.
— McKay Coppins (@mckaycoppins) August 23, 2018
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Dear god.
Just saw that quoted in this analysis of trump and his TeeVee, teacher… mother… secret lover!
M31
“Sometimes you get some pretty good information by watching shows.”
1) not the shows you watch
2) not when you’re an idiot
Major Major Major Major
Okay, so I’ve said things like this, but I was very stoned.
NotMax
Pause to remember that Gotti was called “Teflon John” – until he wasn’t.
Also, memo to Dolt 45: Baywatch wasn’t a legal drama.
Mike in NC
Trump’s pathetic life story revolves around not being treated fairly by many mean people.
Ruckus
I can’t figure out why shitgibbon would be in a bad mood, just because a number of his money/legal/fixit guys have been found guilty or plead guilty and are rolling on him to save their own skins….. But I am somewhat enjoying that it’s happening.
I am also wondering which country or state we are going to attack when his kids are hauled in…..
Platonailedit
Great tweet.
Ruckus
@Mike in NC:
That word fairly, is doing an awful lot of work there.
Ruckus
@Mike in NC:
Also.
I thought that was the result of his pathetic life, and the stick that his life revolves around was the one stuck up his…….
feebog
What the fuck could he learn from Duck Dynasty or Infowars?
NotMax
@Ruckus
Starts with a V and rhymes with Penezuela.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
I sort of thought that Baywatch was a bit too high drama for shitgibbon to have watched, I thought he got all his inspiration from Soupy Sales. And, there were boobs so I doubt he watched it with the sound on, didn’t want to spoil the moment for himself.
Aleta
Trump? Perry Mason.
“I Object You Honor Your That question is Incompetent, Irrelevant and Immaterial.”
FlyingToaster
@Major Major Major Major: And you’ weren’t referring to Fox and Fiends.
Platonailedit
@feebog:
They both rob the rubes while personally enriching themselves. I am sure the totus totally identifies himself with that kinda grift.
Aleta
“I Object Your Honor. This is improper cross examination. That question is Incompetent, Irrelevant and Immaterial.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw4ZWSoeB2Y
namekarB
Well alrighty then. Trump accused Cohen of “making up lies.” Why is Trump upset that other people lie?
jl
No ‘It’s a damn shame what the dirty feds did to Al Capone!” this time?
Not interested then. I want classic Trump, not this second rate stuff.
Maybe if there were more high quality nonsense about what he learns from TV shows…
Doug R
@NotMax: Vuvuzela?
dmsilev
He’s probably just watching reruns of his own show.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
What did they do to anyone?
And take care.
I’ve spent a lovely week and a half crossing the Atlantic in a medium sized ship during a rather pleasant winter storm where the wind speed never dropped below 90 mph with periods over 110 and we ended up a few hundred miles off course. I won’t talk about the wave heights.
It was fun.
The Dangerman
Deep in Nunes territory tonight (Fresno; I’ll accept all condolences you care to offer). Nunes signs everyplace. Challenger signs everyplace (I can’t pull his name out of my head; it was a hot drive – and I never run AC unless I flat out HAVE to do so and it wasn’t THAT hot – anyway, time to rehydrate). Lots of money being spent at the print shops.
Platonailedit
Talk about straw clutching.
namekarB
Hmmm. Upset that Cohen didn’t do the honorable thing and lie, but rather did the dishonorable thing and told the truth. Well okay then.
Ruckus
@namekarB:
Because the lies don’t make him look good? Like his are supposed to.
Geez, haven’t you been watching?
(If you haven’t, I don’t blame you, it is a pretty disgusting show.)
Mike in NC
Funny how Trump spent his entire crime cartel life surrounded by snitches, spies, ratfuckers and backstabbers. But he complains about flipping for the prosecution. Got that, Mr. Soprano.
NotMax
@Ruckus
Hey, don’t poop on the Soup.
Ruckus
@Ruckus:
Did I say pretty? I meant extremely disgusting!
scott alloway
@Major Major Major Major: OMG! There IS a transporter unit and a holodeck. Where can I find them?
randy khan
I’m trying to imagine a Law and Order episode – really, any crime show – that featured a campaign finance law plot line. (“Your Honor, it’s not a violation of Section 13-g(2) if the contribution was made without the intent to exceed the statutory maximum.” Yeah, that would get big ratings.)
Ruckus
@NotMax:
Yeah, OK.
Dad and I used to watch Soup. Mom could never figure out what we saw there. Silly mom.
jl
@The Dangerman: Andrew Janz. Excellent opponent for Nunes.
https://www.andrewjanzforcongress.com/
MomSense
@Platonailedit:
I just can’t with those mofos. I want every damn piece of GOP dirty laundry to be aired.
James E Powell
I mentioned this in another thread and the more I think about it the more I think it’s a sure thing. When does Kasich announce he will run against Trump in 2020? When does Romney follow suit? Lil Marco?
Platonailedit
@namekarB: Exactly. Up is down. Lie is truth. What a shitstain for president.
jl
@randy khan: In Law and Order, would there be a ‘datDONKK!!’ after the detectives watched a suspect confess to a crime on national TV? After the fourth or fifth time, would they play it for humor, or do more ‘daDONKS’?
Major Major Major Major
@scott alloway: Come again?
Major Major Major Major
@randy khan:
I’ll bet the Coen brothers could make this a memorable line.
Platonailedit
Live by lawsuits, die by lawsuits.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@James E Powell: my money’s on Kasich. I’m not gonna bet it happens, but I won’t be surprised if it does. Willard? I really doubt it. His own political future may not go beyond Utah, but if Tagg or Ragg is ever gonna fulfill the White Horse/Mormon Kennedys fantasy, he’s gonna need the goobers. Same reasons we’ll never see Jebbie, Part II: The Revenge of the Pantsed. That creepy young goon in Texas has ambition.
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
Maybe if a Marilyn Monroe impersonator sang it a la Happy Birthday?
;)
MisterForkbeard
@randy khan: Yes. Perhaps if the law broken was about illicitly paying hush money to prostitutes and porn stars just ahead of an election and not reporting it. Maybe that would make a good episode.
Mart
@The Dangerman: Spent the night in Fresno a couple weeks back. Bottom of the ramp off the expressway a big ‘ol Nunes sign. Thought it looked better in the original Cyrillic script.
On the bright side hit a Persian restaurant that was yummy.
Mart
Note to wise guys and gals – I did not hit the Persian restaurant, I ate there.
Major Major Major Major
@Mart: Damn, just beat me!
FlyingToaster
@Mart: You looking for wise guys and gals? None of those here; they’re not compatible with jackals.
Amir Khalid
@Mike in NC:
In Donald Trump’s book, snitching, spying, ratfucking, and backstabbing are bad things only when done to Trump. It’s the same book that says that if you do something illegal, it’s not a crime unless he doesn’t like you anymore.
scott alloway
@Major Major Major Major: If, as Trump said
I watched a number of shows. Sometimes you get some pretty good information by watching shows.
Then, Star Trek science is true.
Yutsano
@Mart: Did you find the drive-thru sushi stand? I had it when I was down there for training and discovered that little gem. It’s not bad. And I want to know why these aren’t all over the Northwest because the concept is brilliant.
magurakurin
@NotMax:
and to remember that it was Robert Mueller that put Gotti in prison.
Calouste
@Mart: Duh. Fresno is in California, not in Florida.
Now if you said you hit a Persian restaurant in say Orlando, we would all be looking forward to tomorrow’s episode of Adam’s series.
Waynski
@magurakurin: Gotti was the “Teflon Don” appropriately.
NotMax
@Mart
Taking a date to a Persian restaurant is redundant.
:)
Amir Khalid
@Mart:
Is a Persian restaurant one that’s afraid to admit it serves Iranian cuisine?
Anne Laurie
@Amir Khalid: Here in New England, at least, quite a few expatriates from Iran are known to get huffy about being Persian, actually. Their stated reason usually comes down to not wanting to be identified with Those Ridiculous Mullahs. I’ve always considered it less about ‘fear’ than about fastidiousness — analogous to my own Don’t blame me for what the Repubs do, I did my best to get HRC elected — but in these parlous days, it can’t be ruled out, alas.
Yarrow
@Amir Khalid: A friend who is Iranian took a group of us to a restaurant owned by a family friend. It serves Persian cuisine. Maybe it just sounds more exotic and less scary or something. It was very good but not as good as his mom’s cooking. Gormeh sabzi and tahdig ftw.
Roger Moore
@randy khan:
There have been a few good real-life campaign finance law plot lines. There was Dinesh D’Sousa making illegal campaign donations where one of his straw donors was his mistress’s husband. And who could forget Charles Kushner (Jared’s father) trying to wriggle out of his campaign finance case by having a prostitute seduce his brother-in-law, film the event, and try to use it to blackmail him into not testifying? Either of those could make a very entertaining TV episode
jl
@Amir Khalid: I dunno. Iranians I know around here, of various political stripes, say that while the country is called Iran, the culture is called Person. So, in their view, it should be Persian Restaurant. Probably my personal sample is not large enough for me to know if that is a consensus.
jl
@Anne Laurie: We were both typing at the same time on it. You do have point: anti-Mullah people, and particularly those that left after the revolution (and there are lots of those in California) are particularly insistent on the distinction and eager to explain why it is so important. But other say the same thing.
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
‘Twas ever thus. Like saying Persian rug.
prostratedragon
@Roger Moore: And speaking of Perry Mason, consider how many episodes require a run through small town zoning ordinances and such to pick up the trail.
Something a little breezy for the Hunters and, it seems the whole GOP:
(Snap! Snap! Snap! Snap!)
Mnemosyne
@Amir Khalid:
Something that I did not know until fairly recently is that Iran has a fairly large ethnic Armenian population that identifies themselves as Iranian Armenians. That may be another reason why many people from Iran who immigrate to the US identify themselves by their ethnic group (Persian) than by the country’s name.
jl
@Mnemosyne: If you are still here, is there a large community of Iranian Armenians in Southern California? Most of the Armenians in Northern California were from Turkish or Russian parts. At least all the Armenians I knew through some neighbors when I was a kid.
Amir Khalid
@NotMax:
I’m also wondering why people never speak of “Iranian cats”.
J R in WV
@Ruckus:
Really!?!! Just now, you mean, not a recollection of being in the Navy?
What ship was it? I would love to cross the Atlantic on a ship, imagine being able to walk around and sit at a table. As opposed to being even in First Class on an aeroplane I mean. And the storm, that could be scary at times, but interesting all around.
Just One More Canuck
@feebog: he watches My 600-lb Life
ewrunning
Getting legal advice from the shows recalls this line from Lionel Hutz, Attorney on the Simpsons: “Mr. Simpson, don’t worry. Matlock was on the tv in the bar last night. The sound was off, but I think I got the gist of it.”
Of course, we already know a significant percentage of Trump’s “briefing papers” consists of screen grabs of Faux News chyrons.
BC in Illinois
@NotMax:
@Amir Khalid:
If you come to St Louis, one of the greatest restaurants on South Grand is a Persian restaurant. Cafe Natasha.
Very big on gin for some reason.
The Other Chuck
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Republicans who actually want a chance at winning are looking at 2024. This isn’t to say they won’t throw some token sacrifice in along with the rest of of the grifters and glory hounds who will run every chance they get, but I don’t think the usual suspects want the loser stink on them next cycle.