There’s just no escaping the motherfucker. There is never a day when his fucking name isn’t splashed all over the goddamned headlines. It’s always fucking something. I feel like I am fucking drowning in his sea of narcissism. You can’t go anywhere without seeing his fucking name or something he did. I just hate the man more than I have ever hated anyone and anything and I have 48 years of hating shit under my belt.
I want Obama back.
Mary G
Co-sign. I long for boredom.
Baud
I’ll try to do better, John.
zhena gogolia
I feel EXACTLY the same way. Why isn’t every single person in the country as sick of him as I am? I tried to live my life so as not to be aware of Donald Fucking Trump and his trashy existence. Now I can’t escape it. It’s a nightmare.
Major Major Major Major
You should spend less time on twitter.
lahke
Sorry, John. Reviews on Jack Ryan not so good. Maybe there are Game of Thrones reruns for you.
pat
Remember when we could go for days without any mention of Obama in the news? He was just quietly doing his presidenting.
Going out to canvass tomorrow morning. Lots of folks not home, but once in a while you run into someone who says “democrats all the way down, and my wife too!” That always makes me happy.
Baud
@zhena gogolia: What’s right with us?
zhena gogolia
@pat:
I’m so old I remember when Bill Clinton was president. I picked up my New York Times and saw a bunch of boring gray headlines and thought, “Gee, nothing every happens any more.” (This was before they ginned up the Monica thing.)
MomSense
That’s why I stayed so long at the concert last night. It was such a reprieve from the bullshit.
pat
@pat:
obviously I mean “all the way down the ballot.” Just in case it wasn’t clear…..
zhena gogolia
@zhena gogolia:
nothing ever happens
Neldob
Yeah, me too. And Pence.
jharp
I did not watch but I’ve heard Trump’s Indiana rally was utter insanity.
debbie
Just heard that NATO is considering naming their HQ after McCain. Another knife in the fat back of that fat bastard!
Baud
@zhena gogolia: I remember when BJ had other topics of conversation.
chuckInAustin
no fking shit…every single fking day. I look at my phone for news alerts in the morning and it’s just more fking shit that he.
Baud
@pat: Good for you. Thank you.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
Because I am too goddamn angry. If my radio was human, it would be in tears constantly, what with all the yelling I direct at it.
Baud
It’s so bad, I’m beginning to think there might be a difference between the parties.
SuzieC
I feel the same way. I never realized the depths of white-hot hatred that I am capable of feeling.
Pogonip
@Baud: ?
dmsilev
@Major Major Major Major:
This is an eternally true statement independent of any context/
eemom
Yup.
Also the constant Groundhog Day-like bleating of the media hacks: “THIS time it’s different!” “THIS time he’s gone too far!” “THIS time, the republicans in Congress are totally gonna have to DO SOMETHING about this guy!”
Major Major Major Major
@dmsilev: correct
dmsilev
@Baud: Earlier this afternoon, the California State Senate passed a net neutrality bill. I was reading a story about it which contained this lovely sentence: “The vote was 23-11 as of this writing, with all yes votes coming from Democrats and all no votes coming from Republicans.”. Truly, both parties are the same.
eemom
…..and God forbid the media hacks themselves should do something, like for example NOT FUCKING HEADLINE every idiot word he shits out of his anus shaped mouth.
The Dangerman
Think of the positive. Assuming fair elections and he doest start WWIii and end the world as we know it, the GOP is fucked for years.
Yesh, I know.
Doug R
Well, 64% of the country agrees with you JC, 53% strongly.
geg6
Co-sign. Completely.
Baud
@dmsilev:
During the FCC fight, there were Bros on Reddit who would rather have their teeth pulled than admit that Dems were better on that issue. But there some troopers fighting the good fight to try to change some minds.
Martin
@zhena gogolia:
Because you’re not a racist and a lot of them are.
2 years ago I got flamed by everyone here (and probably rightfully so) by saying that I’d given up on national politics for the time being. There wasn’t much point because these people cannot be reasoned with. Trump could skullfuck Honey Boo Boo on Fox News and they’d still love the guy. My focus has been on CA and it’s paying off.
We should have a pretty damn strong net neutrality bill going to the governor, as well as a bill to mandate that public universities provide emergency contraceptives and medical abortion pills to students on demand. We just sent a bill to end cash bail, which while not perfect it a step in the right direction. Bill to move to 100% renewable power by 2045. A bill to require that public corporations have at least one women on their board of directors by 2019. Dems are getting their shit together in my district which is even money to go democratic for the first time since I moved here. I’m a registered non-partisan, and I’m getting weekly calls from canvassers for the Dem. None from the GOP. It tells you who is working for this and who isn’t.
California is going to emerge from this shitshow massively, wildly more liberal than before, and as the 5th largest economy in the world, the country can’t just ignore them.
eemom
@The Dangerman:
That’s what we said in 2008, and it ain’t gonna happen now or ever. Because they have all the money in the world behind their lies.
geg6
@Doug R:
Yeah, gotta say, that was a bit heartening.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
Wow, you’re that old??
sukabi
You’re not alone John. Obviously your earlier Jack Ryan binge didn’t have the desired effect. ? and the heat & humidity don’t help.
It will be nice to get back to steady, competent, inclusive leadership. This crazy, hateful, racist, incompetence is exhausting. The only “good” trait they have is their incompetence. There, I said something “positive”.
dmsilev
@Baud: You’d think that the shift in FCC Chairs would be enough to drive the point home through even the thickest of skulls, but apparently not.
Baud
I have to admit, the double funerals today have made me feeling a bit contemplative.
frosty
This is why I can’t quit Balloon Juice. Well said, Cole.
Baud
@dmsilev: Given how people poo-poohed the open Supreme Court seat, it doesn’t surprise me.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne: only in spirit.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud:
Now hold on there, that’s just crazy talk.
Brachiator
As I noted in an earlier thread, Trump is finishing the week hating Canada. How do you hate Canada? It’s like hating puppies.
I think Trump is insanely jealous of the youthful Trudeau.
But yeah, I could do with a week of Trump not being infantile or unbalanced.
ETA. Also, Trump is stumped when asked if he thinks McCain would have made a better president than Obama. Stupid question, but I love that it makes Trump uncomfortable.
satby
So right there with you John.
With extra hatin’ on the media, because I blame them for enabling him.
jl
@Baud: The longer we wait for the Baud 2020! administration, the hard it will be to finally fill up SCOTUS with Diana Ross and real Supremes.singers, Since we now know that is what the Framers really intended. They aren’t getting any younger and neither are we.
MomSense
@debbie:
I’m sorry you are so angry but it is good to know I’m not the only one. I even yelled st Scott Simon the other day.
dmsilev
@Martin:
Some will, but some will drift away as scandal after scandal erodes his standing. Look at that ABC/WaPo poll being circulated today; his approval among Republicans was down to 78%. Still way higher than it should be, but he used to be at 90% or so among Republicans. Look at the chart at the top of page 4 to see how he’s bled support across all demographics.
Mike in NC
Every night at 6:30 on the network news, they open with “breaking news as we come on the air”, usually followed by some chaotic shit related to the Fat Bastard.
Lizzy L
Totally with you, John. Not. My. President.
Baud
@jl:
Stop! In the name of love
Before you break the law.
Baud
@dmsilev:
Blacks are awesome.
Mike in NC
Anybody in need of a diversion: today season 2 of “Ozark” turned up on Netflix.
debbie
@MomSense:
That goddamn Steve Inskeep! ??
jl
@dmsilev: The fivethirtyeight blog poll aggregate is taking an interesting and good turn downward for Trump too.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/
It’s hard to say when the average voting person who is not a politics and policy junky will tune in and start some serious thinking about what to do. Most of them don’t vote in primaries, so why even pay attention until some news actor talks about how they are all finished and you can concentrate on the election you plan to vote in?
But, I think the public attention turns serous in mid to late August. Will be interesting to see what happens as people really focus on voting. Both on shifts in voter sentiment, and probably most important, who will decide to turn out to vote.
Sherparick
@eemom: No, they think he is the greatest story in the world, even as he incites his supporters to murder them. See Dean Baquet & Maggie at NY Times.
gene108
What bothers me is despite all the news about Trump, we will never know the full depth of his and his Cabinet’s criminality and corruption.
I don’t think the news media has the guts to lay this out, because it would implicate the rest of GOP as co-conspirators, by their refusal to investigate it, at the least, and that will kill the both sides do it narrative they love so much.
Gex
@Baud: This is the kind of post that almost makes me wish the blog had a comment liking feature.
Really glad it doesn’t tho. Alain and M4 have their hands full as it is.
jl
@Baud: Typical Baud! All talk and no action. Have you even talked with Diana to see if she’ll take the gig yet?
schrodingers_cat
What’s happening right now in India is giving me sleepless nights on top of all the shit the T and his minions are pulling here.
Martin
@Brachiator: Well, McCain wasn’t born in the US, so you can see why he’d struggle with an answer.
Mandalay
@MomSense:
There were plenty of reasons to do that long before Trump came along, most notably for being a repulsive lickspittle towards Daniel Schorr every week. Simon’s perpetual deference, servility and ass-kissing was beyond parody.
And Schorr was such a vile and pompous sack of shit that he just lapped it up, and then dismissed Simon with the contempt he deserved.
gene108
@pat: @zhena gogolia:
When I go door knocking for my Congressional candidate, Andy Kim, I run into folks – folks who will vote Democrats all the way down – I am surprised how little they are aware about current politics versus the B-J cometariat, and then I have to come to terms with the fact I am a political junkie.
Baud
@gene108:
Agree. I know plenty of yellow dog Dems who aren’t up to speed on all the things that are going on.
trollhattan
Jeez Cole, you’re basically channeling my spouse’s daily Trump rant. You may want to consult an exorcist.
trollhattan
@debbie:
I’d rather they named it after Obama but McCain will do so long as Donny’s skull ‘splodes a little.
MomSense
@debbie:
Yeah, fuck him!
Citizen Alan
The one positive thing in my mind is this: There is now no possibility that calls for bipartisanship will be taken seriously. Now that the dirty swine have made it abundantly clear that they will kill us all if given the power to do so, anyone on the Left who seriously talks about bipartisanship with the GOP should be laughed off the stage. IMO, one of the great tragedies of the Obama administration is that it took him far too long to realize that the Republicans could never be anything but enemies. Sometimes, I think he still doesn’t realize it. As far as I’m concerned, the next time the Democrats hold the White House and both houses of Congress, we should work to fucking starve the red states (while providing financial support for decent people trapped in red states who want to leave).
TenguPhule
@Baud: 3% of them are deplorable.
TenguPhule
@Baud:
We know you clone new bodies to inhabit as your dark spirit prematurely ages the current one.
TenguPhule
@Brachiator:
I just want to reemphasize he’s talking this way about a closely allied government and there are not fucking fireworks going off.
His shit has been normalized.
TenguPhule
@Citizen Alan:
So that disqualifies about half of our Democratic Congress members then.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: wait is this unusual?? ?
marv
@Baud:
Appreciate that. And what I tend to contemplate these days is Lincoln’s Second Inaugural, and most especially where he challenged white Americans, in one sentence, to step up and accept responsibility. For me personally, Donald Trump happened because a significant portion of my white brothers and sisters could not deal with a successful black president. It is just our continued failure (I mean my particular group – white folks) to change:
“Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.” If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.”
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major: Baud is the original Evil Overlord.
A Ghost To Most
@Brachiator:
Canadians are better Americans than Shit Hitler ever was.
Yarrow
Agree with every word, John. Every word. I find volunteering for a candidate helps. I’m feel like I’m doing something to change things and I’ve met some great people doing amazing things.
@debbie: I turn off the radio when they start doing that. Fuck them and their horse race hot takes and bothsiderism and Koch-money fueled totebaggery, Dems-in-disarray bullshit. Fuck them all with a rusty chainsaw.
Brachiator
@schrodingers_cat: What’s happening in India? Most of the international news I’ve seen recently has been about economic problems in Venezuela and Argentina, with a side of the adventures of the Pope in Ireland.
Yarrow
@gene108:
They can’t lay it out because many of them are complicit and traitors as well.
Itinerantpedant
I know precisely and exact how you feel John. And I have 53 years of hating shit under mine.
TenguPhule
@Brachiator:
Puppies who invented Poutine. And mayo on hamburgers. //
TenguPhule
@Brachiator:
SC posted about a round up of civil rights lawyers by the facist government party in power yesterday, I assume its gotten worse.
TS (the original)
@Baud:
I’m contemplating with a little sadness that the best antidote to news about trump is listening to eulogies from two funerals.
Yarrow
Has anyone heard from Mnem today? Wasn’t she having her knee surgery this morning?
VOR
@dmsilev:
The Manafort and Cohen guilty verdicts and pleas took a toll. He keeps saying it is a witch hunt but they keep turning up witches. The unsurprising news that North Korea is acting true to form and the realization that he didn’t reach a great agreement. The UK visit where it was very apparent he was not welcome at our closest ally. Helsinki. And now being so petty and small (i.e. his normal self) over McCain’s funeral.
But I really think the only way to lose the deplorables would be to find out he is broke and not the great genius businessman he claims to be.
HumboldtBlue
This why a job that keeps me far away from my bookmarks folder is a boon. I don’t have enough time to read the nonsense, I can barely keep up with blogs like this.
Ignorance is bliss?
schrodingers_cat
@Brachiator: A number of social activists and a human rights and a labor lawyer are currently under house arrest, on trumped charges till their writ petition is heard by the Supreme Court. The Maharashtra government (same party as Modi) is silencing dissent before 2019 elections. Indian political twitter is a sewer, it seems to have gotten much worse in the last year or so, as BJP’s performance in various byelections and state elections has been sub par.
Tenar Arha
@Mandalay: @MomSense:
Think you’d be interested in this. There’s a nationwide prison strike, & NPR finally covered it, badly & by saying stuff I definitely can no longer listen to w/o screaming at the radio. Saw this earlier today on Twitter.
Ruckus
@Citizen Alan:
Please rethink this.
First, if you act like them, you are them.
Second, pissing people off, even with good reason, is never a winning strategy.
Third, they may not act like citizens, but they are. Sure they gave us the shitgibbon, and refuckingpublican congress, but that is their right to do so bigotry and all.
Fourth, giving people the option to move just so you won’t fuck them is, well it’s shit. Just because I don’t live there, and you don’t live there doesn’t mean some parts of red states might not be pretty nice places to live.
Fifth, Don’t Be A Petty Fuck.
schrodingers_cat
@TenguPhule: It hasn’t really. Supreme court decided that they should be under house arrest till the court hears their writ petition. Its the viciousness of Modi supporters on social media that is troubling. I wonder how many are real people and how many are bots.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: we aren’t supposed to put mayo on burgers?
TenguPhule
Gutless Witch DeVos leaving it to states whether to use federal money to buy guns for schools
TS (the original)
@TenguPhule:
Perfectly happy if someone else “kills these people” – putting them in line with journalists for his deplorables to attack.
Juice Box
I just returned from a couple if weeks in Canada. As soon as anyone found out I was American, they only wanted to talk about one subject. A few weeks ago I let my phone play a bunch of random news podcasts while I walked. Every single damn podcast, from France, Italy, Senegal, Spain, or Mexico made fun of Trump’s idiocy. Every single one. Make America great again my wrinkly, old ass.
schrodingers_cat
The most dangerous woman in India.
according BJP.
VOR
@VOR: And I missed a bunch of stuff! 3000 dead in Puerto Rico while he throws paper towels and gives himself an A+. Children being separated from their parents and clearly no plan to ever re-unite them. Omarosa. Now the news that he was buying up all the crap the National Enquirer had on him. The endlessly changing trade war with no real strategy being displayed other than being an asshole. Treating Canada like crap.
I’m at the point where I don’t want to see pictures of him or hear his voice.
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
That I find highly troubling. It imposes the burden on the victims and invites a presumption of guilt from the public.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major: Ketchup. Mustard. Maybe horse radish or tabasco. Never mayo.
TenguPhule
@TS (the original): He’s talking that way about the Canadian government. This kind of talk used to be caus belli for declaring wars.
TenguPhule
@Ruckus:
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Yarrow
@VOR:
I refuse to do it. I put my hand up to cover the screen and mute it if he’s on TV. I can barely watch comedians imitating him. I yelled at Adam a few nights ago because he posted some tweet in a comment in a late night thread that rendered with a photo of the Orange Traitor right there in the thread. It was a late night thread and people were heading to bed. No one needed to see that. Horrid.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: why not?
TS (the original)
@TenguPhule: “used to be” – nothing is the same with this a..hole. My head hurts just thinking about it.
Brachiator
@schrodingers_cat: What a mess. Thanks for the info.
I’m reading in some articles that house arrest is preferable to police detention. Terrible to have to choose between these options.
Gemina13
Right with you, Cole. You and my SO practically said the same thing– and so did I. I fucking hate Trump and every member of his racist kakistocracy. If they were rounded up tonight and given the Ceaucescu treatment, I’d dance in the streets.
schrodingers_cat
@TenguPhule: I am not a lawyer and know even less about the Indian judicial system. The police that arrested are from a different state, the SC has stayed her transfer to that jurisdiction.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
Because mayo warmed by the heat of the burger doesn’t taste right and eating cold mayo with a warm burger doesn’t feel right.
Sis
I endorse every word of this. I swear, I was a nicer person before this monster/criminal and his awful family and awful cohort took over. I’m hostile on a daily basis now.
Ksmiami
@Citizen Alan: that’s what I’ve been saying for 4 years on. Glad you’ve seen the light. It’s war and we have the technology to defeat them without firing a single shot.
FRANK MCCORMICK
Remember when the Right counted every instance of the word “I” in Obama’s speeches?
It’s always about projection…
Ksmiami
@TenguPhule: we need to pave them over or let them die in impoverished misery. Republicans/trumpists are a menace to the world- and hey they’ve certainly earned every ounce of our hatred
Citizen Alan
@Ruckus:
I do live here. I have spent 48 years so far in rural fucking Mississippi. And I am here to tell you that the clear majority of white people in this state would like to see you die in a concentration camp. Or at the very least, wouldn’t mind very much the idea of you dying in a concentration camp. And until people start realizing that a sizeable percentage of the country literally never got over the Civil War and makes all their decisions on what will most hurt the people they don’t like, things are only going to get worse.
Zinsky
I’m with you John. If by some chance I ended up in the same room with Trump, I would be forced to strangle him.
toschek
I’ll co-sign this as well.
Btw, my girlfriend was looking @ one of the all-too numerous Q Anon reddit subs yesterday and ran across a post where a Trump supporter says “Trump never complains or says anything negative about anyone eels [sic]. He just gets the job done!”
Like what the fuck? His job seems to be talking shit about anyone and everyone PLUS complaining, punctuated with rounds of golf and rallies at the expense of the taxpayers.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: No, just no.
TenguPhule
@Ksmiami: 20 years indentured servitude spent on building infrastructure and growing and picking food crops.
Overseen by Mexican and Canadian guards.
Jay
@schrodingers_cat:
Is anybody in India looking under Indian Teitter for Russkies?
katep
I had no idea that I had that much hate in me I didn’t even know it was possible. It has caused some serious self reflection but I decided it s a righteous anger. Not sure it is healthy though.
Aleta
I didn’t think I’d be able to bear this at all, never for this long; but lately I’m as optimistic as I can be despite depression. Because I’m thinking: on the scale of how long it takes a country to expose/eject criminals, racists and infestations that were aided by oligarchs and dictators, we’re progressing *relatively* quickly. To get rid of such corrupt immoral people, three years would be a success. If taking longer could bring the exposure and ejection of Pence, it will be worth it. (And why not–he’s Manafort’s guy right? Do we know of a single Manafort associate who is clean?)
With today’s Patten charges, I have to wonder which Senators (on the Foreign Affairs Com! ) and Reps did Patten’s secretive company ask to take meetings with the Russia-backed Ukranians, and for what were they offered? Why wouldn’t they report such an overture? Are any of them running for reelection–is that why this came down today?
schrodingers_cat
@Jay: Not that I know.
Tehanu
@Sis:
Me too. I say the Lord’s Prayer every morning but when I get to “as we forgive those who have wronged us,” I always have to put in, “except since I can’t forgive Dump & Co., forgive me for that too.”
Platonailedit
A 3rd rate corrupt media = 24×7 traitorous thug
Platonailedit
Bill Arnold
@Ruckus:
Red Staters explicitly and proudly and vocally fucked with my large Blue state (NY), passing legislation to tax state and local taxes, to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy (first order approximation). A new F-ing Tax-Tax, passed by Republicans and signed by a Republican! (A few thousand dollars for me. Some of the professionals I know, majority Republicans, will be hit a lot harder. It hits mostly upper middle class people, sure. They’re also F-ing with the ACA, which is working fine in NY. NY was already also one of those (mostly blue) states that gets back a (less than 1) fraction of taxes sent to the Federal government and the 10K SALT cap [0] will worsen that.
Now personally, I don’t much mind distribution, on a bipartisan nationwide basis, from rich states to poor. However, when the poor states proudly boast of taking even more money from the rich states, but take this extra money and give it to the rich rather than redistribute to the poor, there’s an irreconcilable difference in policy views. IMO.
[0] IRS Throws Salt In The SALT-Deduction-Limit Wound (August 24, 2018)
MomSense
@Tenar Arha:
And that would be the moment when I started yelling at Scott Simon.
Platonailedit
@Ruckus: Tell that to your fellow redstaters. Who knows, you might change a few minds.
Bill Arnold
Re the top post, I have to bootstrap optimism and a positive mood every day, while keeping hate seriously tamped down. It’s exhausting. I may not hate the Republicans for this, but do not forgive them and never will, at least not while the Republican party still exists.
Mandarama
@Citizen Alan: I’m a Mississippian too. I don’t live in the state anymore, but come from over six generations of roots there. And I completely understand what you’re saying. ?
Lynn Dee
Agree agree agree.
Tenar Arha
@MomSense: Whoah, wow.
My car yelling was immeasurably reduced by switching to podcasts. Thus I was able to pick my Code Switch & leave Scott Simon (a man who apparently ought to have the nickname Legree) behind.
MomSense
@Tenar Arha:
Would you listen if I had a podcast of me yelling at my radio?
Steve in the ATL
@schrodingers_cat: arresting a labor lawyer is clearly a bridge too far!
Matt McIrvin
@Citizen Alan: If we either seceded from or tried to starve out the red states, the massive refugee flows out of there would turn the blue states into Trumpian bigotvilles real quick. The divides aren’t just geographic and there’s ugly all around.
Tenar Arha
@MomSense: Seriously, if it’s intelligible & is more that swearing & insulting the interviewer’s lineage & intelligence, yeah sure. (I try & listen to lots of history, politics, music, movies, or funny podcasts).
Tenar Arha
@MomSense: Addendum: If i did a podcast it would probably be just swears & insults.
Citizen Alan
@Matt McIrvin:
Well, they wanted a wall, didn’t they?
celticdragonchick
@Sis:
Same here. I used to be a nicer person…and I’ve changed for the worse.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@TenguPhule: gotta wonder.. how is playing nice with Mexico but not with Caucasian Canada playing with the majority of the base? I’m sure Melania probably said something complementary about Trudeau’s looks and Trump is now insanely jealous. What an infantile way to run a country.
Seanly
I am in the same fucking boat. I can’t stand him, his plasticine children, his terrible administration of rich vampires and scoundrels, and his daily dalliances with actual fucking Nazis.
I do hope that my intuition about him resigning or otherwise being incapacitated after Feb 2019 comes true. If Trump is no longer President after late Jan 2019, Pence can serve the remaining <24 months without it counting as a term – I think this has been the plan to some all along. Pence is a true believer in his twisted, hateful version of Jeebus, but he'd be hamstrung by his stupidity & arrogance and hopefully pushback by a Democratic House. Besides the Presidential election & the composition of the House, the Republicans will be defending at least 21 senates seats in 2020.
Seanly
@Citizen Alan:
My corollary to that is that no Democratic President can ever again put any “reasonable” Republicans in his administration out of the BS media obsession with comity. The media only ever require the D’s to play nice & when it’s an R in the White House, it’s okay to stack the administration with charlatans & ideologues as long as they have that R. But Heaven forfend that a D President not select a white male Republican FBI/Sec State/Sec Def coz comity. I love the idea of a free media, but we need a purge of the tools & fools.
coloradoblue
You want Obama back?
The Muslims of the world he spent 8 fucking years droning into pink mist don’t.
PIGL
@TenguPhule: nope: mayo on burgers et pommes frites was invented by the Belgians. And it’s just fine to hate them.
PIGL
Troll cleanup on aisle 139, please.
Cat48
But, Obama, tan suit, arugula, fancy mustard……
dsc
I’ma just going to leave this here:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkPSbp3zTfo