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You are here: Home / Politics / An Unexamined Scandal / Can we please get discovery… pretty please

Can we please get discovery… pretty please

by David Anderson|  September 5, 20185:08 pm| 70 Comments

This post is in: An Unexamined Scandal, All Too Normal, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

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New filing in Roy Moore v. Sacha Baron Cohen: Complainthttps://t.co/Hsx2QkCL7Y pic.twitter.com/iV9ch4Rw6z

— Big Cases Bot (@big_cases) September 5, 2018

Judge Roy Moore (R-Al) an alleged creep has sued Sasha Baran Cohen and others.

All I can say is go long popcorn once discovery is allowed.

Open thread….

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  1. 1.

    Corner Stone

    September 5, 2018 at 5:16 pm

    I am totally juiced up! I’m going to find some Fazis and nuck the absolute shit outta them!

  2. 2.

    Anderj

    September 5, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    Summary judgment comes before discovery right? The case will get tossed prior to discovery unless Cohen doesn’t file doe it…

  3. 3.

    Mary G

    September 5, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    I cannot imagine that SBC doesn’t have a plan for this, which will be even more embarrassing for Moore, and I am here for it, even though I’ve never been a fan, because Andy Kaufman did it first and better.

  4. 4.

    Keith P.

    September 5, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    I was hoping for an Arpaio lawsuit, or maybe one where Trump sues for having Cohen get some MAGA supporters to do unspeakable things to a Trump mannequin (RFLOL moment)

  5. 5.

    Amir Khalid

    September 5, 2018 at 5:27 pm

    I found the excerpts from Who is America that are on YouTube both hilarious and disturbing.

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    September 5, 2018 at 5:28 pm

    On today’s episode of The Creeple’s Court…

  7. 7.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 5, 2018 at 5:29 pm

    I have a writer’s group meeting tonight, which should be much better than my cardiologist appointment this afternoon. I’m fine but now he wants me to go to cardiac rehab, like I’ve been sitting around for four weeks. I hate spending time at doctor appointments. I have stuff to do.

  8. 8.

    Mary G

    September 5, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    WaPo has the least surprising news of the day: The White House is discussing potential replacements for Jim Mattis. Twitler may believe Mattis’ denial of saying mean things about him to Woodward, but the book has to have reminded him of all the things that Mattis has ignored or slow walked.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    September 5, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    @Anderj: Summary judgment is after discovery. SBC can file to dismiss the case before discovery.

  10. 10.

    NotMax

    September 5, 2018 at 5:33 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor

    Jam-packed week. Didn’t you have dentist and DMV yesterday?

  11. 11.

    narya

    September 5, 2018 at 5:35 pm

    much as I loathe many of the people whom SBC mocks, I have three objections: (1) it’s a style of “comedy” that I do not find amusing; I hate the “gotcha”; (2) in at least one of the episodes I saw, SBC was acting like an ass while at dinner at a couple’s house; they were clearly appalled, but he was a guest in their house so they would not challenge him; I thought it actually made him look quite rude, and not in a good way; (3) in at least two of the episodes I saw, he attributed things to Hillary or the Clinton Foundation that were (a) not true and (b) were guaranteed to upset the people he was talking to. Did he go back to those folks and say no, actually, Clinton had nothing to do with this? Because if not, he is spreading crap about Clinton, even if it’s crap he’s using to press their buttons and get terrible responses from them. This essentially trashes Clinton, no matter how false it is.

  12. 12.

    California Stars

    September 5, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    A little bird told me our Dear Tweeter went on TV just now and said some nonsense. Anyone care to recap? Listening to Trump speak live gives me fits.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    September 5, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    @narya: I’m not big on his style of comedy either.

  14. 14.

    MattF

    September 5, 2018 at 5:37 pm

    Welp, Kayla will always be ‘that woman with the crucifix earrings. I can only imagine how Kayla and Roy found each other.

  15. 15.

    Gravenstone

    September 5, 2018 at 5:39 pm

    @narya: I have never nor will i ever find SBC funny. I’ll just root for injuries here.

  16. 16.

    NotMax

    September 5, 2018 at 5:39 pm

    Is Moore making use of his “Jew lawyer?”

  17. 17.

    TenguPhule

    September 5, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    Other Trump judicial nominees have struggled to say under oath whether Brown v. Board of Education – the landmark 1954 case declaring race-based segregation unconstitutional – was correctly decided. Not Brett Kavanaugh.

    Kavanaugh on Wednesday called the decision the “single greatest moment in Supreme Court history” and said Plessy vs. Ferguson — the 1896 case legalizing segregation that Brown overturned — was “wrong the day it was decided.”

    Earlier this year, Trump judicial nominee Wendy Vitter drew headlines when she refused to weigh in on whether Brown was correctly decided. And during Neil M. Gorsuch’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing last year, Democrats repeatedly had to press on the Brown question until the now-justice finally responded.

    “Why will you not say you agree with the result?” Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) asked Gorsuch then.

    JFC, we’ve fallen so far as a country that we have to give him points for agreeing with Brown. v BOE.

  18. 18.

    Calouste

    September 5, 2018 at 5:41 pm

    @MattF: Kayla and Roy can’t even agree between them how they found each other.

  19. 19.

    efgoldman

    September 5, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    we have to give him points for agreeing with Brown. v BOE.

    At least he knows what it is. Low bar.

  20. 20.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 5, 2018 at 5:49 pm

    @NotMax: Yes! Who are these people who expect me to spend my time going here and there?

  21. 21.

    Mnemosyne

    September 5, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    My orthopedist just got mad at me because I came in too early after my surgery. He didn’t want to see me until next week. Have I mentioned lately that the people who do his phone appointments really suck?

    Then I said I needed my doctor’s note for work before I could go. The desk assistant came back and said, “He says you can go back to work in 8 weeks.”

    I said, “Uh, no, I have a desk job where I can put my knee up. Ask him again.” And I had to sit for a while until she came back with a new note that said 2 weeks.

    The other receptionist said, “I have an email box full of people begging me to let them stay out on disability for as long as possible, and you want to go back SOONER?!?” ?

    The patient standing next to me was totally on my side, though.

  22. 22.

    Amir Khalid

    September 5, 2018 at 5:53 pm

    @Mary G:
    This White House’s tendency is to replace, not good with better, but bad with worse. You have to wonder what calamity the new senior staff will bring about.

  23. 23.

    ruemara

    September 5, 2018 at 6:01 pm

    I don’t like SBC very much, but whatever pokes holes in these morons egos & bank accounts.

  24. 24.

    James E Powell

    September 5, 2018 at 6:02 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    True, considering that the most important and perhaps only qualification will be total loyalty to Trump & his family, especially the First Daughter.

  25. 25.

    E

    September 5, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    I’m torn about Roy Moore. On one hand, I am relieved AF he lost his election. On the other, I kinda miss the guy. I’ll never forget him riding that horse to the voting booth, looking like a stiffened corpse roped to a jackhammer.

  26. 26.

    Faithful Kurker

    September 5, 2018 at 6:12 pm

    @E: I just felt sorry for the horse. The jerk was keeping his seat on the horse by balancing himself with the reins. That must have hurt the horses mouth.

  27. 27.

    Faithful Lurker

    September 5, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    @Faithful Kurker: It’s lurker not kurker. Silly fingers.

  28. 28.

    chopper

    September 5, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    @California Stars:

    Dear Tweeter went on TV just now and said some nonsense.

    ma nishtanah?

  29. 29.

    Anonymous At Work

    September 5, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    @Mary G: I just want to see the release form used. I can’t imagine that SBC, Showtime, and every lawyer they know didn’t go over that sucker in detail beforehand. Because I betcha that Roy Moore did not.

  30. 30.

    Martin

    September 5, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    Fuck this NYT op ed. Ok, great, someone inside is railing on Trump. How does that help?

    Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over,

    You just admitted to a different flavor of constitutional crisis. It was a crisis when Al Haig stepped in for Reagan when he was shot, and he wasn’t stealing things off of his desk.

    It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

    That’s not helpful. Elected officials have authority because they were elected. It’s not acceptable to substitute in an unelected official for that. If the president isn’t an adult, then you are obligated to address that head on and bring it to the attention of the public and the other branches of government. This isn’t West Wing, it’s the plot of ‘Dave’.

    The only point of this op-ed is to occupy a chapter in someones book once they get out. It does nothing else.

  31. 31.

    Ruckus

    September 5, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:
    Hope everything goes well. Now do as the doc says!
    Took 8 months and numerous apt for me to get through a complete cardio workup at the VA including redoing tests because the originating doc didn’t order the right ones. I know what you mean about waiting.

  32. 32.

    dmsilev

    September 5, 2018 at 6:23 pm

    Somebody’s pissy:

    “Nobody has ever done in less than a two-year period what we’ve done. So when you tell me about some anonymous source within the administration, probably who’s failing, and who’s probably here for all the wrong reasons. No,” Trump said near the tail end of an extended tirade. “And the New York Times is failing. If I weren’t here I believe the New York Times probably wouldn’t even exist. Someday, when I’m not president, which hopefully will be in about six and a half years, the New York Times, CNN and all of these phony media outlets will be out of business, folks, they’ll be out of business, because there’ll be nothing to write and there’ll be nothing of interest.”

    “So if the failing New York Times has an anonymous editorial, can you believe it, anonymous, meaning gutless, a gutless editorial. We’re doing a great job. The poll numbers are through the roof, our poll numbers are great, and guess what? Nobody’s going to come even close to beating me in 2020, because of what we’ve done. We’ve done more than anybody ever thought possible, in it’s not even two years,” he concluded.

  33. 33.

    Roger Moore

    September 5, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    @narya:
    A big part of Cohen’s shtick is that he starts with something a little bit off and then pushes the envelope further and further to see what kind of reaction he gets. You can tell the difference between the truly awful people who are already in the place Cohen is going and try to lead him along, the people who are willing to go along because it’s socially awkward to say no, and people who are genuinely appalled and just don’t know how to let him know. It’s to his credit that he leaves in segments where the people are appalled and don’t go along, even when they make him look like an ass.

  34. 34.

    Ruckus

    September 5, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    @narya:
    Obnoxious comedy is just that, obnoxious. It’s supposed to be funny but it seldom is. It’s like drumpf inviting himself to dinner. It’s just not funny.

  35. 35.

    Mary G

    September 5, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    He got the phone back:

    TREASON?— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 5, 2018

  36. 36.

    Timurid

    September 5, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    THIS IS FINE.

  37. 37.

    Mary G

    September 5, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    And another grifter chimes in:

    I give clues to who from inside 45’s WH wrote the @nytimes Op-Ed on page ((330)) of Unhinged.#SilentArmy #PrayForTheBear pic.twitter.com/VT3fqIBHi0— OMAROSA (@OMAROSA) September 5, 2018

  38. 38.

    jonas

    September 5, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    IANAL, but doesn’t this get tossed in about 2 seconds flat? Moore’s a public figure. Lampooning public figures in the media is basically one of the most ironclad First Amendment rights around.

    This is about as stupid as Bill Clinton flipping out and suing someone for tricking him into an interview where he’s “scanned” with an Intern Bang-o-Meter.™ (Of course, Clinton would not be so stupid as to be roped in to an interview by a poorly-disguised Sacha Baron Cohen, but if he were, it would be even stupider to sue over it.)

  39. 39.

    dmsilev

    September 5, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    @Mary G: @Timurid: Every accusation is a confession

  40. 40.

    Miss Bianca

    September 5, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    @E:

    I’ll never forget him riding that horse to the voting booth, looking like a stiffened corpse roped to a jackhammer.

    Oh my God, that image made me LOL. But now I’ll never get it out of my head. Damme sir, I say, Damme!

  41. 41.

    Baud

    September 5, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Someone should tweet back:

    And obstruction of justice!

  42. 42.

    dmsilev

    September 5, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    @Baud: Or ‘Collusion!’.

  43. 43.

    lamh36

    September 5, 2018 at 6:38 pm

    Hello…catching up on some movies stuff.

    First off… New Halloween trailer!! I like that it has the feel of the old movies!
    Halloween – New Trailer [HD] https://youtu.be/x_-x4Dwz-rU via @YouTube

    Next up…Cicely Tyson getting an Honorary Oscar! The fact that she’s never had one!!! Talk about LONG OVERDUE!!!
    @THR
    Honorary #Oscars to be given to Cicely Tyson, Marvin Levy, Lalo Schifrin http://thr.cm/Tdpj5X

    Third…for you comic book movie, esp Marvel, fans…new pics from the Captain Marvel movie starring Brie Larson, as Captain Marvel!

    @EW
    7h7 hours ago
    More
    The future is female! Here’s your exclusive first look at @BrieLarson as @CaptainMarvel, the galaxy’s newest — and most powerful — star: http://share.ew.com/sCQYPSe

  44. 44.

    California Stars

    September 5, 2018 at 6:40 pm

    @dmsilev: Yeesh. Yep, that’s as unhinged as my sources indicated.

    In other news…Andrew Janz (District 22) has a new ad out:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5tNivaO3I

    Watch, like, donate…

  45. 45.

    Roger Moore

    September 5, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    @dmsilev:

    The poll numbers are through the roof, our poll numbers are great, and guess what?

    Roof, floor, what’s the difference?

  46. 46.

    California Stars

    September 5, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    @chopper: Mah Nishtanah + autotune + a lone, sad comment about Trump

  47. 47.

    dmsilev

    September 5, 2018 at 6:43 pm

    @Roger Moore: His disapproval numbers are through the roof, maybe that’s what he meant?

  48. 48.

    Baud

    September 5, 2018 at 6:44 pm

    @dmsilev: No, he did not mean the truth.

  49. 49.

    randy khan

    September 5, 2018 at 6:44 pm

    Moore seems to have forgotten that truth is an absolute defense against defamation claims, so if somehow he gets past a motion to dismiss, he likely will not enjoy what happens next.

    But I bet, as others have said, that the release is a thing of beauty that fully discloses what’s going on if you actually read it, and signs away any rights you might have to sue.

  50. 50.

    efgoldman

    September 5, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    Watching CBS News.
    Why the FUCK do we have troops in Afghanistan at all?

  51. 51.

    randy khan

    September 5, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Yeah, he didn’t say *which* numbers were through the roof.

  52. 52.

    dmsilev

    September 5, 2018 at 6:46 pm

    @California Stars: That was only one chunk of the rant. He’s not just unhinged, he’s actually ripped the door out of its frame.

  53. 53.

    Baud

    September 5, 2018 at 6:47 pm

    @efgoldman: Because Hillary Clinton is a warmonger.

  54. 54.

    California Stars

    September 5, 2018 at 6:47 pm

    @lamh36: So if the movie comes out in March is it OK for me to be Captain Marvel this Halloween? That Entertainment Weekly cover makes me want to cosplay.

  55. 55.

    efgoldman

    September 5, 2018 at 6:50 pm

    @California Stars:

    is it OK for me to be Captain Marvel this Halloween?

    I think granddaughter is going to be Wonder Woman.

  56. 56.

    J R in WV

    September 5, 2018 at 6:55 pm

    @narya:

    Oh SBC … is that the comedian Sasha Baron Cohen, right!?

    ‘Cause I was thinking it was Southern Baptist Church, and that they were suing Moore for being a pedo while being a member of their organization, maybe? Or not… so confusing!!!!!

  57. 57.

    Schlemazel

    September 5, 2018 at 6:55 pm

    @Timurid:
    I love reading the replies! It is obvious that most of Dump’s followers are hate followers & not fans

  58. 58.

    Mnemosyne

    September 5, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    @California Stars:

    I am not an expert, but I’m pretty sure that the etiquette says you can cosplay any costume that’s been revealed to the public.

  59. 59.

    TenguPhule

    September 5, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Why the FUCK do we have troops in Afghanistan at all?

    Bush Jr had a hardon and the currently serving Generals are all fucking idiots;

  60. 60.

    trollhattan

    September 5, 2018 at 7:03 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Our longest, bestest, oldest war, the Afghanistan War is now a junior in high school and got its driving license within the last year. Next, it will have to register for the Selective Service. When can it buy dope?

  61. 61.

    TenguPhule

    September 5, 2018 at 7:03 pm

    @efgoldman:

    I think granddaughter is going to be Wonder Woman.

    Which version?

  62. 62.

    TenguPhule

    September 5, 2018 at 7:04 pm

    @trollhattan:

    When can it buy dope?

    It makes its own.

  63. 63.

    trollhattan

    September 5, 2018 at 7:04 pm

    @J R in WV:
    I like your scenario more better!

  64. 64.

    California Stars

    September 5, 2018 at 7:09 pm

    @dmsilev: Yeah, I agree the term “unhinged” has lost some of its cachet in the Trump era, whether through repetition or just narrative inadequacy.

  65. 65.

    California Stars

    September 5, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    @efgoldman: When I was a kid I had a wonder woman costume that I wore until it fell apart. Pretty modest by today’s standards.

    Will your granddaughter have the cape too? Handy for chilly October nights.

  66. 66.

    Schlemazel

    September 5, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    I think that stupid OpEd is Republican electioneering. They know they are getting their asses handed to them this fall largely because hair furor is so obviously unfit. So they want to pretend the adults in the WH are actually controlling him and have everything under control. Note how X claims to love all the great things that have been done. Then they almost pat the reader on the head and say “now, don’t you worry about the bugfuck crazy loon in charge, we have him hemmed in.”

  67. 67.

    Jay

    September 5, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    @efgoldman: @TenguPhule: @trollhattan:

    Ummmmmm, President Carter, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan decided to break Afghanistan,

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

    It’s remained broken ever since. There was one chance to “fix” Afghanistan, but the Bush Administration decided to hand it back over to the people good at keeping it broken.

  68. 68.

    CliosFanBoy

    September 5, 2018 at 7:36 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I know, that poor horse!

  69. 69.

    Roger Moore

    September 5, 2018 at 7:56 pm

    @Jay:

    Ummmmmm, President Carter, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan decided to break Afghanistan

    I’m pretty sure the Soviet invasion had at least a little bit to do with it being broken, also, too.

  70. 70.

    Jay

    September 5, 2018 at 8:11 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    The Ususal Suspects funded, armed and trained the Muj, guys like the Haqqani Network and Hekteymeyar, 6 months before the Soviet Invasion.

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