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Today was a good day

by DougJ|  September 6, 20188:29 pm| 137 Comments

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This is one of my favorite quotes in all of literature, from Jesus’ Son by Denis Johnson:

“Usually we felt guilty and frightened, because there was something wrong with us, and we didn’t know what it was; but today we had the feeling of men who had worked.”

That’s how I feel the past couple days about the Dems in the Senate. Usually, we think they are a bunch of sells-out and neoliberal shills and even cucks, but the last two days Booker and Harris and Durbin really went to work on the homes with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch.

Let’s elect a few more fighters. Give here to Jacky Rosen and Krysten Sinema, running for Senate.

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You can give to Beto here.

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And while it’s not a federal election, I’d like to see Stacey Abrams be the next of Georgia (I just raised the goal to 5K for this one).

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We are closing in on 200K raised this cycle at Balloon Juice. Thanks a lot everyone!

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  1. 1.

    Mary G

    September 6, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    I agree, the Democrats are kicking ass and taking names. I have the hearing on YouTube, where the comments are usually toxic, but everyone there thinks Kavanaugh is a weasel and the last one just said “Whitehouse took out the JUGULAR.”

  2. 2.

    Baud

    September 6, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    Usually, we think they are a bunch of sells-out and neoliberal shills and even cucks

    Count me out of that. But I’m glad you all are happy.

  3. 3.

    maeve

    September 6, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    Jesus’ Son is also a good movie
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus%27_Son_(film)

  4. 4.

    geg6

    September 6, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    Wow, 200k from us jackals! We are a force of nature!

    And yes, Senate Dems have been awesome. Booker, Hirono, Durbin…but Kamala Harris will forever have my heart for asking about what laws there are specific to how men can control their own bodies. I’ll love her for eternity for striking him dumb with that one. It was a beautiful thing.

  5. 5.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 6, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    @Baud: I can’t remember a day when I didn’t work. The days when it made a difference? Like you, I’m glad everybody thinks it matters. I hope it does.

  6. 6.

    raven

    September 6, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    @maeve: It was Iowa City but it reminded me so much of Champaign-Urbana in those days.

  7. 7.

    zhena gogolia

    September 6, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    Don’t forget Blumenthal, please.

  8. 8.

    schrodingers_cat

    September 6, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    @Baud: I agree with you. Even my local Ds are pretty impressive.

  9. 9.

    raven

    September 6, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Sunrise at Sapelo Island.

    Sunrise Fishing.

  10. 10.

    maeve

    September 6, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    @raven: Did you know I grew up (from 4th grade through college) in Urbana? I forget whether we had this conversation before, I don’t post often. Now I live in Alaska.

  11. 11.

    raven

    September 6, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    @maeve: Oh cool, where’d you go to school, Yankee Ridge, Leal? When?

  12. 12.

    Mnemosyne

    September 6, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    To repeat myself from below, all of the good election news is just making me want to work even harder to get Democrats elected so we can spike the ball in the Republicans’ fucking faces on Election Night. ?

    And I think “Governor Stacey Abrams” sounds pretty damn musical to my ears.

  13. 13.

    patroclus

    September 6, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    Well, it’s not over yet. The lying slimeball Republican hack, Starr operative, Elian Gonzalez hyper, Vince Foster conspiracy-monger, right wing talking points repeater, describer of contraception devices as “abortion inducements”, gay rights hater, Hobby Lobby lover, and beneficiary of the largest Senatorial cover-up in the history of SCOTUS nominations is still being grilled tonight. No networks are showing it but I’ve got it on C-SPAN3 and it’s just as nausea-inducing as it has been all day. It’s just sick – the Republicans are turning this whole thing into a sham and no one seems to care.

  14. 14.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    @Baud: I was bitching about reflexive Dem-slagging in an earlier thread.

    BTW I didn’t catch any of the live committee action, did Booker actually say the words “Bring it” or was that an internet shorthand?

  15. 15.

    The Midnight Lurker

    September 6, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    Good week! Spent Labor Day weekend canvassing. New ad out. Everybody’s excited! For the first time, things are really feeling different. Lots of Beto! signs here and there.
    Spies say Cruz’s HQ is in turmoil. Dump Trump or not to dump Trump, that is the question. Rumor is that they tried to disinvite and Trump fired off a tweet (Aug 31st) sayin’, “Bitch, I’m coming’! Find me the biggest stadium in Texas!”. Big Money is coming in to help Teddy and that’s causing some friction in his camp as well. Some of his people are being pushed aside, ignored, etc.
    I’m working the phones this week. Getting first-time voters registered. People are pissed. People are motivated. Here’s one ol’ curmudgeon who thinks thing are swinging our way. Maybe.
    Don’t open the Champagne just yet. But you can dust off them glasses.

  16. 16.

    Mary G

    September 6, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    Blumenthal just told Kavanaugh that he considered bringing pictures of the victims at Sandy Hook. All the Democrats are kicking ass and taking names.

  17. 17.

    eemom

    September 6, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    Booker and Harris and Durbin really went to work on the homes with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch.

    ❤️❤️❤️

    #MedievalOnYourAss

  18. 18.

    MomSense

    September 6, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    He said it while staring at Cornyn with dagger eyes.

  19. 19.

    zhena gogolia

    September 6, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    Good for you. I wish I could dispel the image of Vladimir Vladimirovich from my mind.

  20. 20.

    Steeplejack

    September 6, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    @raven:

    Both great pictures!

    I was sitting in traffic the other and thought, “I need to get out where I can see some real clouds for a change.”

  21. 21.

    maeve

    September 6, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    @raven:
    Hayes (now Martin Luther King Jr.) for 4th in 1966 (we were bussed – otherwise it would have been Yankee Ridge) – then Leal for 5th and 6th, then Uni High for high school. Left town to go to UW-Madison for college since it would have been so boring to go to college so near home. My parents lived there until the early 90s so I visited (they moved). (I’m 60 years old so an old timer).

    BTW – I have a dog named Raven. Ravens are (literally) totemic here in Southeast Alaska he’s a black lab and I named him that because he’s black and shiny. Turned out he was also mischievous and likes to steal things. Have to be careful what you name your pets! (Maeve is also the name of an earlier dog of mine (poodle mix) and so my nym not my name).

  22. 22.

    Baud

    September 6, 2018 at 9:11 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: And Rachel just did it. Savviness will destroy us.

  23. 23.

    TenguPhule

    September 6, 2018 at 9:11 pm

    Welcome to the Third Forever War.

    Trump, who just five months ago said he wanted “to get out” of Syria and bring U.S. troops home soon, has approved a new strategy for an indefinitely extended military, diplomatic and economic effort there, according to senior State Department officials.

    Although the military campaign against the Islamic State has been nearly completed, the administration has redefined its goals to include the exit of all Iranian military and proxy forces from Syria, and establishment of a stable, nonthreatening government acceptable to all Syrians and the international community.

    But Hillary was supposed to be a warmonger. //s

  24. 24.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    @MomSense: Okay then. While it is too soon for 2020, he will be penciled in at top of my short list come November.

  25. 25.

    raven

    September 6, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    @Steeplejack: Sapelo is something. You take a 30 minute ferry ride and there are very few people on the island. I was fishing an hour before sunrise and there was no one in either direction until a few of the runners in our group came down.

  26. 26.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: At the top… I miss the edit function.

  27. 27.

    TenguPhule

    September 6, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    Trump would demand executive orders from Cohn or former staff secretary Rob Porter imposing tariffs or otherwise punishing China. But officials said the duo often ignored him in an effort to avert what they believed was bad policy, in hopes that if they paused the process the president would move on to another topic.

    “He would be like, ‘Do this, do that, slap a tariff on this country or that country, let’s blow everything up, let’s go to war,’ ” a former White House official said. “Then we would come back the next week and Trump would say, ‘What happened with X?’ And he would get mad that no one had done it. And it was a never-ending cycle.”

    I’m not sure what’s worse. That there’s a madman in the executive branch or that all of the evil stupid people he’s appointed under him are the ones actually making the decisions.

  28. 28.

    raven

    September 6, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    @maeve: So about the time Chet Keller was at Urbana High and then played football at Wisconsin. I was born in Mercy Hospital in 1949 but didn’t get back there until I came home from the Army in 69. This was our Raven.

  29. 29.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 6, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    @Baud: second

  30. 30.

    Elizabelle

    September 6, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    @raven: Looks spectacular. Even without Bodhi on the scene.

  31. 31.

    raven

    September 6, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    @maeve: My ex taught and Uni and was the advisor for the yearbook.

  32. 32.

    Elizabelle

    September 6, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    @Baud: Rachel just did what?

  33. 33.

    MomSense

    September 6, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Harris Booker or Booker Harris for 2020. The Democrats have been doing amazing work in these hearings. It’s probably futile but it certainly has motivated to make extra phone calls to Collins.

  34. 34.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 6, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: They were kind of talking a over each other, but I’m pretty sure I heard “Bring it”

    “Any senator, officer or employee of the Senate who shall disclose the secret or confidential business or proceedings of the Senate, including the business and proceedings of the committees, subcommittees and offices of the Senate, shall be liable if a senator to suffer expulsion from the body and if an officer or employee to dismissal from the service of the Senate and to punishment or contempt,” Cornyn said.

    “Bring it!” Booker said. “Bring it!”

    @Baud: yeah, that was annoying

  35. 35.

    O. Felix Culpa

    September 6, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    You will be shocked to know that a few minutes into his Billings rally, Trumpov is already lying (yes, I know, his mouth is moving). Per the intrepid Daniel Dale – who listens to these things so we don’t have to – In “most states,” Trump says, he is more popular now than he was on election day. That is not true.

  36. 36.

    Steeplejack

    September 6, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    @maeve:

    I lived in Rantoul (at Chanute AFB) from fourth to seventh grade (1960-64).

  37. 37.

    opiejeanne

    September 6, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    @Baud: Yeah, I don’t know where he’s getting that. My US Senators are both Democrats and awesome, my Represenatitve is awesome. Oh wait, they’re all women! Even my state Senator is a woman.

  38. 38.

    opiejeanne

    September 6, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Yay!

  39. 39.

    Ken

    September 6, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: Yes, definitely not news that he’s lying. The only real questions about these rallies are which high-school auditorium did his handlers book, and whether they convinced Trump that it’s the largest venue in the city.

  40. 40.

    TS (the original)

    September 6, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    Watching that replay of Sen Harris on Rachel – the dems are doing their research.
    With President Obama’s nominees – the GOP had little negative to investigate. With republican nominees – they all try to hide their racist misogynist views – but there are documents, or recordings or emails! – or all of the above.

  41. 41.

    Another Scott

    September 6, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    Donated++

    Thanks Doug!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  42. 42.

    Amir Khalid

    September 6, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    Alas, and also a lack-a-day the law forbids my non-Russian oligarch foreign self to donate to American political candidates.

    By the way, I do wish John Cole would stop posting scary pictures on Twitter. This Lt.Gov of Wisconsin person has a sour smile and dead eyes that chill me.

  43. 43.

    Schlemazel

    September 6, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    All these great Dems, it really is wonderful. How come nobody has mentioned Klobucher?

    It would be nice to think there are two Republican Senators that actually had a soul and cared about the country. I’m afraid the Dump courts will obstruct and undermine every attempt to right the ship. Keep fighting.

  44. 44.

    O. Felix Culpa

    September 6, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    @Ken: This is *interesting*:

    rump with a curious new line about Democrats: “They’re going to hurt your Social Security so badly. And they’re killing you on Medicare. I’m going to protect your Social Security.” “…they’re going to end up taking it away from you.”

    It’s always projection with these monsters.

  45. 45.

    maeve

    September 6, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    @raven:
    Totally not into sports – never went to a football game at Wisconsin so that went over my head. (I do have a 2nd cousin who played one season for the Green Bay Packers).

    This is my Raven – pictures of black dogs are hard to take but you get a view of Mendenhall Lake (frozen) with Mendenhall Glacier in the background (I live in Juneau).

    I did art for the yearbook in 1974 – our advisor was the (female) English teacher. She was new that year. The great thing about Uni was you got to participate in anything you wanted to.

  46. 46.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 6, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    @TS (the original): You can tell Himself is not used to answering questions, and does not enjoy it.

  47. 47.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 6, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    @opiejeanne: he’s getting it from spending too much time on twitter

  48. 48.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    @Schlemazel: Has she had her turn at questioning yet?

  49. 49.

    maeve

    September 6, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    @Steeplejack:
    I remember each 4th of July parade and fireworks there was “Salute to Chanute”

  50. 50.

    schrodingers_cat

    September 6, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    NBC News: The Trump administration announced a new rule Thursday that would allow immigrant children with their parents to be held in detention indefinitely, upending a ban on indefinite detention that has been in place for 20 years.

  51. 51.

    Patricia Kayden

    September 6, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    Kavanaugh is a liar just like the man who nominated him. Good to know.

  52. 52.

    zhena gogolia

    September 6, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @opiejeanne:

    My senators and representative are all awesome Democrats (senators male, Murphy and Blumenthal, rep female, Rosa De Lauro).

  53. 53.

    West of the Rockies

    September 6, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    Am I the only one who wants to stay away from that term “cuck”? To me, that’s a RWNJ term, and a juvenile one to boot.

  54. 54.

    jacy

    September 6, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    @Mary G:

    The thing that struck me the last couple of days: too many people confuse quiet with weak. Leading up to this shitshow of a hearing for Kavanaugh, everybody was wailing and rending their garments about the Democrats not doing anything. But the Dems knew they had a tough row, and they’re smart. They kept their own counsel and now they’re showing their strength. Republicans are LOUD. They’re full of bluster. For too long that’s allowed them to appear strong.

    The Dems may not be able to stop Kavanaugh, but they’re playing it as smart as they can. And at least they’re going to leave a lot of the other guy’s blood on the floor if they go down.

  55. 55.

    O. Felix Culpa

    September 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Yes. I saw that earlier. These people are monsters. I hope the legal challenges will be swift and successful.

  56. 56.

    Schlemazel

    September 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Don’t know, I do not have the stomach to watch/ It just makes me angry

  57. 57.

    TS (the original)

    September 6, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Trying ever so hard to turn them around and Sen Harris calling him on it. People that accept trump nominations seem to not understand how deeply will their past be investigated.

  58. 58.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    @jacy:

    Cause all of my kindness, is taken for weakness

    Sorry about the Kanye, but Rihanna and Sir Paul are cool.

  59. 59.

    Another Scott

    September 6, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: He can’t open his mouth without lying. He’s physically incapable.

    So, this statement is one of the least surprising things, ever.

    But, I’m still in the reality-based community and don’t have the same point of view of the people he’s hoping to convince…

    Grrr.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  60. 60.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: The judge who heard the earlier case is going lose his/her shit.

  61. 61.

    jacy

    September 6, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    I actually think it’s great that Trump is lying his fat ass off to his basket of deplorables. The more he says that his numbers are great and he’s so popular and there’s a massive red wave, the more flat-footed they’ll all be caught in November. He’s not disciplined enough to have a concerted message to juice turnout for his side. It’s haphazard. My feeling is his barnstorming pre-election tour is actually going to result in fewer votes for Republicans when looked at as a whole.

  62. 62.

    opiejeanne

    September 6, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I think I’m going to unfollow Jim Wright of Stonekettle Station for his constant drumbeat of slagging on Democrats for doing nothing, calling them spineless. He started out the first dayof the hearings that way, and I don’t think he was seeing what I saw at all.
    Life’s too short.

  63. 63.

    Brachiator

    September 6, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Despite all the craziness and chaos in this administration, Trump is relentless in persecuting undocumented people. It is shameful.

  64. 64.

    raven

    September 6, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    @maeve: Look at that sugar! My ex was undergrad fine arts, master special ed and doc in art ed. She must have been at Uni as apart of her doc work so that was early 80’s

  65. 65.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    @opiejeanne: I saw the one the other day, but I haven’t seen others. I must have missed them.

  66. 66.

    maeve

    September 6, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    @West of the Rockies: You are absolutely right. Also (apparently) it has racist connotations because (to the RWNJ who use it) it not only implies you were cuckolded but also that your white woman got it on with a black man so you can’t even protect the race.

    Unless you’re @scalzi and want to proudly proclaim you’re a (as I recall can’t find the exact tweet) SJW, cuck, beta rabbit, etc. (I think that was in response to someone calling him a SJW)

  67. 67.

    Elizabelle

    September 6, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    @jacy: I think Democrats like seeing other Democrats fighting for us. And I appreciate how Democrats strategize, and are disciplined. My fingers are crossed that they are damaging Kavanaugh more than expected.

    I wish they could stall this nomination and have it eventually fail. We are safer with 8 justices than we would be with another Trump-appointed stooge.

  68. 68.

    schrodingers_cat

    September 6, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    @Brachiator: He has farmed it out to Tanton think tank alumni and they are relentless.

  69. 69.

    TS (the original)

    September 6, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    Reading Dale tweets – trump believes he will be impeached if the GOP loses the congress majority.

    Trump to his supporters on impeachment: “If it does happen it’s your fault, because you didn’t go out to vote.” He has not spoken this way before.

    Trump: If you impeach me, America will “turn into a thrid-world country.” He says it’ll set a precedent that the opposing party will always try to impeach the president.

    Trump arguing against impeaching him: “We won by a lot. We won by a hell of a margin…that Electoral College, we won by a lot.” (Obviously, he lost the popular vote.)

  70. 70.

    Mai Naem mobile

    September 6, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    I think Kavanaugh is perjuring himself so much right now he could be impeached down the road depending on what comes of Trumpov. Yeah,its a high bar but not unsurmountable especially with a Dem POTUS who withdraws executive privilege. McConnell should have pushed Trumpov harder to get another nominee. Kavanaugh is just a bad bad nominee.

  71. 71.

    MP

    September 6, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    @raven: Sapelo is great. If you get a chance, check out the midden on the North end of the island. It feels otherworldly.

  72. 72.

    O. Felix Culpa

    September 6, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: And rightly so.

  73. 73.

    FlyingToaster

    September 6, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    I do wish John Cole would stop posting scary pictures on Twitter. This Lt.Gov of Wisconsin person has a sour smile and dead eyes that chill me.

    He did note that it’s a lizard person.

    She really looks like an extra from V. What happened to the normal-looking people in the midwest, did we all emigrate to the coasts to escape those nightmares?*

    * I sure as fuck did. But when last I looked at the “where are they now” page, 80% of the living members of my HS class live within 150 miles of our HS.

  74. 74.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    @FlyingToaster:

    What happened to the normal-looking people in the midwest,

    ::waves:: Hi.

  75. 75.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    @Brachiator: He can be relentless on that issue because that is the one thing that he and all of his staff agree on, including Anonymous op-ed writer: hate on all the immigrants. They’re all on board with that.

  76. 76.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 6, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    all the good common clay of the West, cheering for murderous dictators!

    Rick Wilson @ TheRickWilson
    “One of my best meetings was with Vladimir Putin.”
    – D. Trump, Assistant to the Regional Manager, North American Oblast

    Daniel Dale @ ddale8
    Trump boasts he was just told, coming on stage, that Kim Jong Un said “terrific things about me.” (He…tweeted about that this morning.) “Just said it. Just said it.”

  77. 77.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    @Mai Naem mobile:
    I agree. I think Cavanaugh is going to face tough times. Democrats aren’t going to forget his lying and corruption. He’ll be able to do plenty of damage, but he could end up being the first justice indicted for perjury. Then what?

  78. 78.

    Amir Khalid

    September 6, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    @TS (the original):
    I m heartened that fewer and fewer Americans are falling for this mendacious bullshit from Trump. I hope he does get impeached and removed from office, for America’s good and the world’s.

  79. 79.

    Mnemosyne

    September 6, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    @TS (the original):

    And poor Kavanaugh is being questioned by his inferiors who just happen to be smarter and more savvy than he is.

    As I keep saying, it ain’t a coincidence that the Democrats who are women and/or POC are being given the best attacks on Kavanaugh. It’s got to grind his gears to have to sit there and stumble through answers as Kamala Harris glares at him over the tops of her glasses like she’s his equal or something. ?

  80. 80.

    Patricia Kayden

    September 6, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    @Thoughtful David: How would impeaching him for perjury work. Would it require a two thirds vote in the Senate?

  81. 81.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 6, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    Josh Marshall @ joshtpm
    I’ve watched a lot of these Trump 2018 campaign rallies. And this is one of the more, maybe most tepid responses I’ve seen. Other reporters who are there, you seeing the same thing?

    Helen Kennedy @ HelenKennedy
    He seems significantly more scattered than usual.

  82. 82.

    Aleta

    September 6, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    a bunch of sells-out and neoliberal shills and even cucks

    wtf, no fcking way. They work hard, take abuse and then get blamed for it but not by me.

    Btw, no offense intended, but insulting some man because some woman etc. has other preferences makes no sense. It just makes it more dangerous for a woman to refuse a man, and it bullies men. Unless you mean the ugly racist version which is a slur.

    I always appreciate what you do here; you make it so much easier to understand a candidate and donate and donating feels more personal. Thanks.

  83. 83.

    Schlemazel

    September 6, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:
    It happened very early in the nation. Impeached by the Congress, acquitted by the Senate. Don’t remember his name.
    Yes, it takes 2/3s of the Senate to convict.

    It was a wet dream of the wingnuts in the 60s to impeach Earl Warren but they could never find a cause

  84. 84.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    @FlyingToaster:
    Rural towns nowadays are facing a fierce self-selection: every single high school graduate with any talent, intelligence, or ambition goes away to college and never–never–comes back. That means that what’s left in each generation are the losers: dumb, unambitious, and untalented. We call them deplorables.
    True, that’s a generalization. But generalizations have a kernel of truth.

  85. 85.

    Another Scott

    September 6, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    @TS (the original): Remember when Ben Carson took the lead in the polls in Iowa? Boston Globe:

    By Jill Colvin ASSOCIATED PRESS NOVEMBER 13, 2015

    FORT DODGE, Iowa — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, brushing aside any recent claims of civility, has equated Ben Carson’s childhood ‘‘pathological temper’’ to the illness of a child molester, questioned his religious awakening and berated voters who support him.

    ‘‘How stupid are the people of Iowa?’’ declared Trump during a rally at Iowa Central Community College. ‘‘How stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap?’’ For more than an hour and a half Thursday night, the billionaire real estate mogul harshly criticized not only Carson, but many of his other competitors in the race for the GOP presidential nomination.

    In his free-wheeling appearance, Trump also said Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who is rising in the polls, was ‘‘weak like a baby, like a baby’’ and ‘‘not a good poker player because every time he’s under pressure he starts to just profusely sweat.’’ And he said former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush didn’t deserve his attention because his campaign is doing so poorly.

    […]

    He always lashes out when he doesn’t get what he wants. And it’s always someone else’s fault.

    We’ve seen this stuff before. Here’s hoping the voters give him a lot to cry about on Tuesday November 6.

    60 days to go!!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  86. 86.

    raven

    September 6, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    @MP: The bridge has been washed out since Irma. I’m back home now.

  87. 87.

    Jay

    September 6, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    @maeve:

    I like using cuck, snowflake and the derogatory slang the RWNJ Nazi MGTOW’s created and sling, by slinging it back at them when they get all whinging.

  88. 88.

    Citizen Alan

    September 6, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    To impeach, yes. But you don’t need a super majority in the Senate to stick his ass in federal prison for perjury. And even if the crass bastard refused to resign after a conviction, having a court that was 4 to 4 wouldn’t be a bad outcome either.

  89. 89.

    RedDirtGirl

    September 6, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    @patroclus: Wow! That’s an awe-inspiring description of who he is. Well done. May have to quote you.

  90. 90.

    MomSense

    September 6, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    MSNBC just cut to trump. He’s talking about the anomynous op-ed. Anomynous??

  91. 91.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    @Schlemazel:
    Yes, but I’m talking about being indicted for perjury that occurred before he was a justice. I think that’s unknown territory, but it wouldn’t be good.
    The RWNJs were going after Warren for policy disagreements. It is hard to get 2/3 Senate for that.

  92. 92.

    MP

    September 6, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    @raven: Sounds like you had a great trip. If I had to pick between Sapelo and Cumberland, I’d go with Sapelo.

  93. 93.

    debbie

    September 6, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    @MomSense:

    I was driving and fist pumping when they played that exchange.

  94. 94.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    @Thoughtful David: Not all of the Mid-West is rural towns. And even some of those are attracting organic farmers and the like – some of whom grew up in cities and chose a different life.

  95. 95.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 6, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    @MomSense: the dentures were slipping again, he almost sounded like Rudi

  96. 96.

    Schlemazel

    September 6, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @Thoughtful David:
    I assume he would be impeached by the Senate first. Whether he would then be tried for purjery would be up to the courts I guess.

    Yeah, I knew why they were hot for Warren but Constitutional disagreements are not cause. The COnstitutions says treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors.

  97. 97.

    Ken

    September 6, 2018 at 10:33 pm

    @TS (the original):

    trump believes he will be impeached if the GOP loses the congress majority.

    On the other hand, he’s doing so much good for the Democratic party right where he is…

  98. 98.

    RedDirtGirl

    September 6, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    @maeve: So much fun to witness connections being made here among the jackals.

  99. 99.

    HalfAssedHomesteader

    September 6, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    Wonder if trump will have a Lenny Bruce moment where the whole rally is him reading court transcripts to a restless and bored crowd.

  100. 100.

    FlyingToaster

    September 6, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Why is a lizard person your lieutenant governor?

  101. 101.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    @Schlemazel: There is nothing that says that a Supreme Court Justice can’t be indicted for an ordinary crime.

  102. 102.

    debbie

    September 6, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    @Brachiator:

    He never forgets a grudge. He’s always been that way.

  103. 103.

    Doug R

    September 6, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    @West of the Rockies:

    Am I the only one who wants to stay away from that term “cuck”? To me, that’s a RWNJ term, and a juvenile one to boot.

    Got no problem with throwing it back at them.

  104. 104.

    maeve

    September 6, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    @Jay: Yes. but its all in context – if you sling back cuck, SJW, gamma rabbit (typed that one wrong in my original post – link to gamma rabbit post ) as push-back – fine. But if it creeps out into the general conversation, not so good.

  105. 105.

    Schlemazel

    September 6, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Agreed but you know they will argue that he can’t be and the argument would be heard by . . . the Supreme Court.
    My bet would be he would not recuse himself, what has he got to lose?

  106. 106.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    @FlyingToaster: Fuck, I can’t explain Walker. Kleefisch? Red Lectroids. maybe?

  107. 107.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    @Schlemazel:
    Yes, that’s the reason for my “Then what?”
    I have no idea what would happen if a justice were indicted for perjury. I suppose he could just try to sit it out, and probably would. Could the Chief Justice just sideline him, not letting him vote or write opinions? Assuming the Chief Justice were inclined to do so?

  108. 108.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    September 6, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    @Mnemosyne: More like his obvious superior! Sen. Kamala ROCKS

  109. 109.

    RedDirtGirl

    September 6, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    @Jay: One of my newest buttons says “Who’s The Snowflake, Now?”

  110. 110.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    True. As I said, a generalization. But the small cities, like Lawrence and Columbus, aren’t rural. And the number of organic farmers is small.

  111. 111.

    Schlemazel

    September 6, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    @Thoughtful David:
    Need a real lawyer to answer that, I just play one on TV. I would think there is no provision in the Constitution to prevent him from voting as long as he remained a member.

  112. 112.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    @Schlemazel: @Thoughtful David: Okay, you both just went into we are an authoritarian dictatorship already territory. I chose not to follow you there.

  113. 113.

    FlyingToaster

    September 6, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    @Thoughtful David: I was a city kid (well, assuming Kansas City can be considered a city), and while a number of us left almost immediately for schooling elsehere, most everyone went to MU, KU, one of the then MSU campuses, some Xtianist school like College of the Ozarks or Tarkio, or mainstream Xtian like William Jewell or Rockhurst. Probably 20% went to the military, but they all CAME BACK. I’m not joking, I checked in at the reunion site 4 years ago where they mapped “where we sent the invites” (and my brother should roast in hell for giving them my address), and it was a huge red canker in the middle of the US with widely scattered dots everywhere else. And my class weren’t all losers. Poor, poorly educated, or unlucky, yes. 98% White, 99% Christian, yes. Losers, not back then.

  114. 114.

    opiejeanne

    September 6, 2018 at 10:47 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: And following the wrong accounts.

  115. 115.

    FlyingToaster

    September 6, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Red Lectroids. maybe?

    That’s the best explanation I’ve seen for the Midwestern weird-looking Republican, yet. I think we should start doing those “Disambiguation” style memes: GOPer or Lizard Overlord? GOPer or Red Lectroid? GOPer or BatBoy?

  116. 116.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    @Thoughtful David:
    Oh, and the number of retirees who move to rural areas are non-contributing. Their income (pension or SS) comes from outside the town. That keeps the rural town afloat, but adds nothing to the dynamism. The town is still a sink, not a source.

  117. 117.

    RedDirtGirl

    September 6, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Just found the clip on Mediaite. It’s definitely the dentures. And oddly, to me, it makes him look a tiny bit like President Bartlett, so, almost presidential, for the first time, ever.

  118. 118.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    @FlyingToaster:

    GOPer or BatBoy?

    Why are you singling out Rudy?

  119. 119.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 10:54 pm

    @FlyingToaster:
    Kansas City isn’t a rural town. Syracuse, KS, is. Ambitious kids don’t go back there.

  120. 120.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 6, 2018 at 10:56 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: His old perjury is way past the 5 year statute of limitations. Theyd have to nail him for this round.

  121. 121.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    @Thoughtful David:
    In fact, a lot of the kids from Syracuse end up in Kansas City.

  122. 122.

    Jay

    September 6, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    @maeve:

    I’m polite and on point with polite people, other than the terms I use for Hair Twitler and his Minions.

    My latest use of “cuck” was a reply to a RWNJ whinging about the Derp State blocking The Insane Clown POSus by passive aggressive kkkouping,

    I pointed out that if Treason Twitler wern’t such a weak beta cuck it wouldn’t be happening.

  123. 123.

    FlyingToaster

    September 6, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Rudy, Rick Scott, and a plethora of lay preachers in rural Missouri. You’ll risk your sanity at exits off I-44.

  124. 124.

    Jay

    September 6, 2018 at 11:00 pm

    @RedDirtGirl:

    Nice.

  125. 125.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 11:02 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: Fine with me.

    @FlyingToaster: WI doesn’t get a lot of that look. For reasons…. We do get fat fucks though.

  126. 126.

    FlyingToaster

    September 6, 2018 at 11:02 pm

    @Thoughtful David: And at least some of us from the midwestern cities then end up on the coasts.

  127. 127.

    Thoughtful David

    September 6, 2018 at 11:04 pm

    @Schlemazel:
    Yeah, I doubt they could stop him from voting on cases. But the Chief Justice hands out decision-writing duties and assigns clerks and interns. Sitting in an office by himself with no clerks and never being able to write an opinion or dissent would be pretty humiliating.
    But wouldn’t stop the damage.

  128. 128.

    J R in WV

    September 6, 2018 at 11:07 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Well, first a grand jury indicts him for perjury. Then there’s a trial in court. Then, after he’s in jail, I think impeachment would be nearly automatic at that point.

  129. 129.

    Jay

    September 6, 2018 at 11:12 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Wonkette had a photo comparison of Ryan and Bat Boy up the other day,

  130. 130.

    RedDirtGirl

    September 6, 2018 at 11:14 pm

    @Jay: Thanks. Second favorite after “How’s Electing A Pussy-Grabbing Narcissist Working Out, So Far?”

  131. 131.

    RedDirtGirl

    September 6, 2018 at 11:15 pm

    @Jay: I thought Rick Scott was Bat Boy?

  132. 132.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 6, 2018 at 11:15 pm

    @Jay: Ryan and Bat Boy?

  133. 133.

    Jay

    September 6, 2018 at 11:17 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Current video conferencing services and tools would still allow him to hear cases, write decisions and interface with staff from the grey bar hotel.

    ReThug’s in this timeline are heaping one new outrage after another on the Body Politic. I wouldn’t put it past them.

  134. 134.

    Jay

    September 6, 2018 at 11:23 pm

    @RedDirtGirl: @Omnes Omnibus:

    Using the right photo, an unsuprising number of ReThug’s look like Bat Boy.

  135. 135.

    Steve in the ATL

    September 6, 2018 at 11:25 pm

    @Jay: that’s quality work. Well done.

  136. 136.

    Suzanne

    September 7, 2018 at 12:24 am

    Not to be pedantic, but I’m gonna be pedantic: her name is Kyrsten, not Krysten. She is also terrible. I’m going to vote for her, but I’m not going to feel good about it.

  137. 137.

    TMinSJ

    September 7, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    I’m in a generous mood and was going to donate to all the BJ endorsed candidates, but when I search Balloon Juice within ActBlue nothing comes up. Is there a consolidated page somewhere? I scrolled through a couple of pages of the main BJ site, but only came up with a handful of the individual fundraising meters…to whom I did send some $ love, just to be clear.

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