“Even the folks who won don’t seem happy”: Obama mocks Republicans at Ohio rally https://t.co/fsQkvaDWHb
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 14, 2018
Especially for beloved commentor and Ohioan Kay:
Former president Barack Obama ridiculed Republicans at an Ohio rally Thursday evening, mocking members of the party for being “still mad” even though they control the White House and both chambers of Congress.
Obama made the remarks during a fiery speech for Democratic governor nominee Richard Cordray, who was previously his Consumer Financial Protection Bureau director.
“Even the folks who won don’t seem happy. Have you noticed that?” Obama told the Cleveland crowd, decrying the country’s “broken” politics. Republicans won the presidency, House and Senate, he said, but “they’re still mad, which is interesting.”
He went on to criticize the “forces of retrenchment and backlash and anger” as well as “some media outlets that like to do the fanning,” without naming any names…
In Ohio, Obama hit some of the same themes as he did in his Friday speech in Illinois, blasting Republicans for speaking out against Trump’s actions at times but not backing their words up with action.
“You will read quotes from Republicans saying, ‘Wow, this is messed up,’” Obama said. “Well, why aren’t you doing something about it? ‘Well, we can’t, because we really like these tax cuts for the wealthy. … So we’ll put up with crazy.’”…
And he urged the crowd to go to the polls rather than allow the voices of “demagogues” and fear-mongers to fill the void.
“That is an old playbook. It’s as old as time,” Obama said, adding: “Here’s the thing, in a healthy democracy, that playbook doesn’t work.”
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News update on last night’s Merrimack Valley natural gas explosions: So far, there isn’t much new to report, per CBS local:
• Sections of South Lawrence, Andover and North Andover impacted
• The issue is related to a high pressure gas main, possibly over-pressurized
• An estimated 8,000 gas meters in that region, served by Columbia Gas, were affected; multi-unit homes have multiple gas meters
• All residents of South Lawrence, regardless of utility provider, were asked to evacuate
• Andover residents south of Rt. 28 and Salem Street were allowed to return home early Friday…
• An 18-year-old man has died. At least 25 people injured
• 60-80 fires and 3 explosions, according to MEMA…
Not great news, especially for the family of that young man, but at least we can still assume it was human error, not human evil. If you look at a map of the affected region, you’ll see it’s a very built-up area. If you know anything about its history: Lawrence is a very poor, immigrant-intensive city, while Andover and North Andover are middle-to-upper-middle-income ‘bedroom suburbs’ for the techies and other professionals who work in Lawrence and the surrounding communities. None of the known Massholes among our BJ commentariat seem to have been affected (I’m some twenty minutes south of the site, and our natgas provider is *not* the one in Merrimack Valley, thank Murphy the Trickster God).
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Finally, in advance of this morning’s tweet dump…
"I just wish he'd stop tweeting" is "Please spare my vestigial conscience from daily reminders of my indefensible choices."
It doesn't work like that, buddy.
— Fred, Metastable Genius (@LesserFrederick) September 13, 2018
NotMax
They’re only happy when showering misery on the other.
Sick and perverse, the twin godllngs standing aside Mammon in their pantheon.
OzarkHillbilly
Blech. The cancer that infects DC appears to have metastasized as far north as Boston and south to the Carolinas.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
Raven
We got good news on our roof replacement settlement. Our contractor felt the amount was to low for him to to the jobs properly because they left off several important things. We submitted it to USAA and they agreed to up the amount by nearly $2k! I’m not happy about @3k in deductibles but that is my fault.
OzarkHillbilly
@Raven: Good news indeed.
Hindsight is 20/20.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: How I managed to choose $1k on the rental and $2k on our house I’ll never know but I’m going to use the $ they sent for the damage to the cars along with the proceeds from selling the Lexus to cover it. I know I’m fortunate either way.
different-church-lady
Yeah: stop wishing he wouldn’t tweet, and start wishing he wasn’t president.
@NotMax:
…and themselves too. For some people, anger and conflict are the only emotions they have, so they have to substitute for happiness.
Litlebritdifrnt
300K people without power in NC now.
raven
Basically just a sand bar’: Outer Banks might narrowly escape Florence, but what about the next hurricane?
raven
@Litlebritdifrnt: I have a friend in New Bern who stayed. Her pictures from yesterday we awful and it’s going to get nothing but worse.
MagdaInBlack
Lets be honest, it would be so much easier to dismantle the country and loot the treasury, if the rabble (thats us) would just sit down and stfu.
OzarkHillbilly
The mayor of Uranus, Misery is upset with the name of the new Examiner news weekly:
So, the Uranus Examiner has gotten his panties in a bunch but he’s perfectly OK with the Uranus Fudge Factory, the “competitive axe-throwing facility called the Axehole” and has a tourism website that states “there’s a lot to do in and around Uranus”.
In 2017 the St Louis Post-Dispatch described Uranus as “a strip mall gone delightfully, disgustingly wrong – or right”.
Personally, I think the mayor is just an asshole.
Chyron HR
Well, that’s very nice, sir, but this is America.
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
Immanentize
@Raven:
That is good news. A new roof is a 20 year positive.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
New York primary:
2014 turnout: 597,284
2018 turnout: 1,487,137 (not all votes have been counted)
turnout close to tripling.
Kay
Thanks AL! I didn’t go- I had to work and I wouldn’t have gotten in anyway.
This poll doesn’t mean anything with all these undecided but I do think it’s tied, which is bad for DeWine. He’s been around forever and everyone in the state knows him and Trump carried this state easily.
There’s grumbling from Democrats (I could literally write that every day, for every situation) because Cordray isn’t exciting enough and doesn’t attack enough but Cordray isn;t that kind of pol and I don’t think he should pretend he is. He’s running as himself. I DO think he’s insanely competitive though, so no one should kid themselves about that. He’s a high-achieving person and he intends to win. He’s just not a screamer or a bomb thrower.
Baud
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Interesting. Usually, with such a large increase, the challenger would win or at least come close.
Betty Cracker
@Chyron HR: I was thinking the same thing. We’ll see how it shakes out. There’s still a shitload of apathy and learned helplessness out there. If Trump and his outrageous antics can’t crack it, I don’t know what will.
Baud
@Kay:
I pretty tired of Dems who keep wanting politicians to fit into a predetermined archetype.
Immanentize
@Baud: Yes, especially when that archetype relates only to campaigning and not to governing.
Kay
The Trump people here aren’t happy. I don’t mean in a broad sense, nationally, I mean the actual people in this town who were his (loud) supporters. They’re still fucking miserable. Now instead of hating Obama they hate all the people who don’t love Trump so they’ve increased the universe of people they’re mad at – now it includes not just high-profile pols but huge groups of ordinary fellow citizens :)
Baud
@Immanentize: Right. Or spending time worrying about the primary winner’s personality, which the candidate shouldn’t try to change.
Baud
@Kay: The feeling is mutual.
Kay
@Baud:
I’m not easily intimidated and I found Cordray a little intimidating when I encountered him as an AG. He’s really smart and really aggressive. He’s effective. He’s just not loud and abrasive. They can’t become completely different people in these campaigns. It doesn’t work anyway. If they don’t vote for him when he’s acting authentically they’ll be less likely to vote for him if he’s putting on an act.
Gin & Tonic
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Almost all of the renegade “Independent Democrats” that caucused with the Republicans to kiss Cuomo’s ass got turfed last night, I think six of eight or something like that. I bet they feel real smart now – asshole uses them, kicks them to the curb this spring, coasts to re-election while they all get their walking papers.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: Hate, it’s not just for breakfast anymore.
Litlebritdifrnt
@raven: New Bern is really not looking good right now and High Tide is due any time soon.
Schlemazel
@Immanentize:
We want our Trump too!
A significant percentage of people want a candidate that screams and flaps their arms in a way ‘inspires’ them. Others of us are looking for good government but we need that other group to vote our way to get it.
Quinerly
@raven: New Bern looks to be destroyed. I grew up 32 miles from New Bern (small town of Grifton in Pitt County). Grifton still has power. Trying to find out about friends in Havelock (Cherry Point Marine Air Station) and Newport. New Bern being covered on the Weather Channel. Swift Creek at New Bern at 8ft.
Kay
@Baud:
IMO, Ohio Democrats believe, all evidence to the contrary, that Ohio is a “blue” state and all of these Republican wins over the years are flukes due to poor management of campaigns. It’s not true. It’s sometimes blue but that’s the deviation from the norm, not the norm. The steady state is reddish. When people say “swing state” they don’t mean “exactly half the time”.
Baud
@Kay: Makes sense. Indiana didn’t become a blue state simply because they went for Obama in 2008.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly: They thought they were preserving their privilege when the voted for Trump and now they understand they have only hastened their loss of status. Does Wilmer even talk about them anymore?
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
When Wilmer runs next year he needs to be smashed in Iowa for his pro-trade war positions.
Kay
@Baud:
So every year we get people who are newer at this (which is great- they’re welcome) but they show me my House district and they say “the Democrat is off by 5!” meaning “this should be easy” but that’s the thing. That last 5 is so hard. That’s what “swing state” really means here, in practice. An incredibly stubborn 5 point advantage for R’s. It’s “only” 5! It’s not 20! But the last 5 is like pulling teeth.
Baud
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: I thought the Midwest was the core area was most against trade deals.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
Listening to the Mayor Pro Tem of New Bern begging people to not come out to try to rescue people. They have several Swift Water Rescue teams working, but the wind is much too high for amateurs.
Baud
@Kay: Yep.
JPL
Yesterday I had a hawk come perilously close to my son’s dog who is only 6 pounds. I put out a make shift mannequin, and today I’m going to hang bird blinders. She is not fond of leashes, but now she is only allowed about four feet from me. Before she visits next time, I might have my son buy her a raptor vest.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Guess they found out that trade wars aren’t easy to win.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA:Or maybe they feel like they are winning and they are tired of it.
debbie
@Kay:
I hope you’re right. The RGA ads are beyond the pale, yet there’s still no response from Cordray.
OzarkHillbilly
It’s that time of the year again: Voodoo doll and cannibalism studies triumph at Ig Nobels
debbie
@Kay:
Bet they think the issue is Dems who won’t vote, when what’s needed is to convert the non-diehard GOP voters.
Chyron HR
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Don’t worry, from what I’ve heard Bern has been completely destroyed.
Baud
@debbie: It’s both, I would think. Too many Dem or Dem leaners sat out 2016, some perhaps lulled into thinking Hillary would win.
Elizabelle
@Quinerly: I’d never realized New Bern’s significance, or that it was a place with a cool history. It was just a destination on signs near Camp Lejeune. I hope they can rebuild.
A sweet story for us all: She saved dozens of dogs from Florence, but needed help. People lined up to take them.
No paywall to click; the Raleigh News and Observer lifted theirs on Florence coverage. As has The State, out of Columbia SC, and pilotonline.com for the Virginia Pilot.
Kay
We have a 2 hour fog school delay this morning. So I drive 5 miles to get to work from the (higher income) west side to the (lower income) east side. There are whole groups of kids waiting for a bus that isn’t coming until 9:30 on the east side.
Okay- they announce delays on tv, on the radio, on Twitter, on Facebook, on the website and thru an automated call system that calls every contact number we have until someone picks up. Still. They don’t know. These kids are raising themselves. We can’t get them to school at the right time. If they manage to graduate it will be a miracle.
debbie
@Baud:
I would be happy to be wrong on this.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Baud: I guess they never thought about the consequences of tariffs.
OzarkHillbilly
Misery Man issues challenge to Flori-Duh Man: Missouri man shot himself in genitals, then lied about it, police say
My money says he’s a Republican.
Elizabelle
WaPost story with a bunch of links to NC pet rescue organizations. Shelter in hurricane’s path warns it will euthanize animals if it can’t find people to adopt them
Raffee and Lamacchia named one of their rescue dogs Neil Young Jr.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle: New Bern is such a sweet town. Big sailing community. I have friends who just live on their boats. Nicholas Sparks has a huge mansion there and subsidized a private school. New Bern is the third oldest town in NC… the colonial capital when we were a colony. Old buildings that have survived for over 300 years. Beautiful riverfront area that looks to be under 6 ft of water.
schrodingers_cat
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Sherrod Brown is another Ds that has supported the tariffs.
Raven
@Quinerly: This lady was a nurse in the Nam and really struggles with PSTD. I hope she made the right choice.
rikyrah
@Quinerly:
Morning to Poco and the tribe ? ?
rikyrah
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Need to lay waste to him.?
Kay
@debbie:
It’s sporadic voters who don’t identify as D or R. They’re not “independents”. They’re just not regular voters. It’s really work intensive to bring them out. We have more of them. So it’s like “it’s pretty close without doing anything special and the last group should be easy!” But that is not true. The last group is the whole thing. If it were easy we’d win 50% of the time.
A candidate like Obama creates a kind of buzz that permeates even them, but candidates like Obama are really rare. He’s extraordinarily talented. There’s like 4 on his level him the last 25 years, both sides. If it wasn’t rare it wouldn’t be extraordinary :)
Citizen Scientist
Good morning jackals.
Wondering why there hasn’t been a reporter focused on Kavanaugh’s debts and the mysterious payment of them. Mark Thompson postulated on the radio this morning that the debts were due to gambling, basically losing to judges so that he’d get favorable court rulings, iirc. I find that a little hard to believe that this coming out will make any difference in time. MT seemed to think the other shoe dropping was imminent.
On my way to Boston for the weekend to see if the sun still exists. Safe travels and well being to all affected by Florence and her friends.
schrodingers_cat
@Kay: Its like getting an A in a class. To get from A- to A is really hard, you can make no mistakes.
r€nato
This is what I have been saying for some time, glad to see Obama is on the same page as I am:
angry when their guy loses, even angrier when their guy wins. I’m starting to think they are just miserable people, period.
Patricia Kayden
The current regime in the White House has been skimming money appropriated to various federal agencies to pay for kidnapped Brown children.
WTH?
Quinerly
@Raven: I’m crying about New Bern. Weather Channel has been there all night. Video this morning is horrendous. I’ll be a total mess shortly. Three hrs sleep last night and three hrs sleep the night before. I tend to babysit these monsters. Old habit from years of worrying about my parents and staying up all night with them, even though a 1000 miles apart. White caps on Front Street in New Bern, (Neuse River up 10 ft in some areas) Weather Channel reporting.
Ken
@Baud:
Lately I find myself wishing for a Tamurlane type, building pyramids of the skulls of his enemies. I suppose I’ll have to settle for someone less exciting.
Baud
@Ken:
Don’t settle. Baud! 2020! is already drawing up blueprints!
(Skulls are surprisingly heavy. An engineering challenge, for sure.)
Elizabelle
@Quinerly: Do you think the old buildings are solidly enough built to withstand and then be renovated?
Tragic to see colonial history being destroyed, and how odd that New Bern has not had such a high flood over the centuries (that we know of …)
OzarkHillbilly
rikyrah
@Patricia Kayden:
So far $ 169 million!!??
raven
Boss Hawg is drawling about thew “granola belt”! Ignent cocksucker.
schrodingers_cat
@raven: Who?
raven
@schrodingers_cat: Barber
raven
From the Oregon Inlet Idiots
schrodingers_cat
@raven: Thanks. Also, WTF is a granola belt?
raven
@schrodingers_cat: The coasts and cities.
schrodingers_cat
@raven: That’s not a belt, more like suspenders. All my life I have lived either on the coast, near or in cities or in college towns. I think these heartland types are just jealous.
Elizabelle
NY Times: Michael Avenatti op ed: The Case for Indicting the President
Justice Department lawyers have said a sitting president cannot be indicted. It’s time to test that proposition by bringing an indictment that can be reviewed by the Supreme Court.
FWIW, Stormy Daniels canceled her Richmond VA appearance last night, due to the impending hurricane.
raven
@schrodingers_cat: Haley Barbour (sorry for spelling) is a lot more than jealous.
Elizabelle
@raven: We could call them “intelligence enclaves” too.
Matt McIrvin
@schrodingers_cat: Some people just really don’t like being around large numbers of strangers. They find cities viscerally intolerable and don’t understand why anyone would live in them.
Elizabelle
@raven: “granola belt” — I assumed it was Trump.
Baud
@Matt McIrvin: It’s not a reason to be insulting, unless you’re prepared for urban areas to insult them back.
Elizabelle
Interesting. The final two paragraphs of Avenatti’s op ed:
schrodingers_cat
@Matt McIrvin: I love both big cities and small towns its the cul-de-sac hell that I can’t stand.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Mahatma Baud is right as always.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle: I’m waiting for someone from Beaufort, NC to check in. It’s bad at my condo at Pine Knoll Shores. Only 46 units, built in 1972 on the ocean. Think we lost the community deck and pool that overlooked the ocean at our small complex. PKS people on the sound side reporting that the ocean dunes were topped. We lost a pool about 20 years ago, so it does happen. PKS police department posted on FB, “It’s bad, stay in if you didn’t evacuate.”
Jeffro
This oughta be fun: The Secret To Cracking Trumpov’s Base
Probably the full combo plate: a few are realizing just how truly stupid Donnie is, a few are realizing just how corrupt/out for himself he is, and a few are tired of defending every dumb thing he says/tweets. And yeah, a few might have picked up on the fact that he has nothing but contempt for them.
Naturally ‘they’ – Trumpov’s supporters – don’t care about the deficit. But the glaring hypocrisy is, well, glaring.
Yeah, and then unfortunately they’ll move on to a smarter, more subtle version of Trumpism…less obvious grift, more and sneakier ways to attack the safety net. Ernst, Cotton, and Co. are on standby…
rikyrah
Three words:
Stop and Frisk
Jon Cooper ? (@joncoopertweets) Tweeted:
Billionaire ex-New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg is planning to run for president in 2020, according to a report in the Times of London. It says Bloomberg, who toyed w/ an independent White House run in 2008, 2012 & 2016, is going to run as a Democrat.
https://t.co/WM8ghHzKHO https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1040420178322964485?s=17
Quinerly
@rikyrah: we are dragging. No sleep. Poco knows something is up because of my weird sleep patterns the last two nights. Thanks for the sweet good morning. Have a nice Friday.
Bruuuuce
@Gin & Tonic: Yep. We canned six of the turncoats, and one of the two who survived is on Staten Island, which (being the land of cops, firefighters, and other municipal workers) trends strongly R in any event. I’m very pleased to note that my bastard state Senator (Jose Peralta) is gone.
Unfortunately, despite a good shot at her, Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul, a DINO if there ever was one, managed to edge Jumaane Williams for the LG nom. (Yes, NY is weird in that we have separate ballots for the Gov and LtGov, and political enemies could easily wind up as the combined ticket if the primaries break right, as we came close to doing this time around.)
Elizabelle
@Quinerly: Please keep us posted. Hoping Florence is not devastating to Pine Knoll Shores.
Bruuuuce
@rikyrah: Bloomie is going to run smack into the same issue that Joe Biden and Wilmer are going to face: Dems are pushing for much more of a representative group, including women, PoC, Latinx folks, nonbinary people, and younger faces. Old white men, some of whom actually are good reps, are beginning to fall, and, especially if we flip at least one house and things start to get done by the new Democrats, we’re going to see more of the same. As a white guy getting older, I can only cheer and say, it’s about time!
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: He will be the candidate of MSM deficit scolds.
Matt McIrvin
Our friends from Andover got cleared to go home.
OzarkHillbilly
@schrodingers_cat:
QFT. I have to admit that after a decade and a half of living in the boonie woods I find the city to be just a little too… Frantic would be the word I guess. I still enjoy my visits (I enjoy seeing and hearing people who don’t look and sound like me) but after 4-6 hours I start getting a little tense.
Jeffro
Btw speaking of that Paper That Shall Not Be Named, there’s an excellent piece by David Leonhardt about how we’re measuring all the wrong things (or at least, not enough of the right things) when we talk about the economy. It is, frankly, a gold mine for the next half dozen Democratic presidents:
There’s lots more, including other ways the government can put out data that shows shares of national income flowing to the rich, middle class, and poor. Wonking out alone won’t win over voters, but a skilled politician…or party…could easily use that data to acknowledge what working people in this country already know, and help show them what’s in it for them if they vote for better. Better politicians and better policies.
NonyNony
@Kay:
So much this. I live in Columbus, but I have family in NW Ohio, and lived in NE and SW Ohio at various times in my life. The folks here in Columbus are just certain that the state is “really blue” and it’s all about getting Democrats to “bother to show up and vote”. If they would leave Columbus a bit and travel around the state a bit they might find out that, no, actually the state is full of angry conservative old people for the most part and they all vote Republican. You get a skewed perspective of the state if you think it’s all like Columbus – in fact almost none of the rest of the state is like Columbus at all. Even the other major cities – Cleveland and Cincy – are more conservative than Columbus is.
Betty
Hi, just checking in to confirm that Dominica came through the passage of Tropical Storm Isaac with minor damage. We are greatly relieved. Thanks for all your positive thoughts and prayers.
JPL
@Matt McIrvin: Is the power back on? I can’t imagine using a gas stove in that situation though. ugh
Elizabelle
@Betty: So good to hear from you. I wish you would do a guest post one of these days, on how Dominica is doing with the rebuilding after Maria. A tale of two islands.
Keep us posted!
Jeffro
@rikyrah: Bloomberg: no. But it’s not surprising – everyone and his/her uncle is going to want to run for the Dem nomination in 2020. Like, literally everyone. You can sense it, there’s blood in the water, he is wildly unpopular and the economy is about to have a ‘correction’.
My “thought and prayer” is that Trumpov still limps to the GOP nomination in 2020 at this point, because that will be a blue wave like we have rarely seen in our history. But for the country’s sake, I’m fine if he’s in leg irons and we ‘only’ handily beat whomever succeeds him.
jackmac
@Baud: Indiana went blue in 2008 because Obama’s campaign went in and outhustled the Republicans. A great stealth effort that the GOP didn’t see coming. Republians made sure it didn’t happen again in 2012. Except for northwest Indiana, Indianapolis and a few other pockets, Indiana might as well be Mississippi.
Gelfling 545
@Immanentize: I have no patience with people yammering that the candidate should do this, say that, act like such and such. I want the candidate to show me exactly who they are. I want no surprises when they’re in office. For people looking for exciting candidates, well, Trump is the result. He’s created a lot of excitement. Certainly, he’s kept my blood pressure elevated for a couple of years. How about honest, competent instead.
JPL
@Betty: That is good news. Hopefully the angry sea gods stay away from the islands this year.
OzarkHillbilly
A pod of white St Lawrence River belugas have found their unicorn and I don’t think they’re giving him back.
(drone footage at the link)
bemused
Fred on twitter loves trump tweets. I’d love trump tweeting if he was doing it from a maximum security prison for the criminally insane forced to sleep in a cage on bare, icy cold concrete floors with a space blanket.
danielx
@Kay:
You know, I’m perfectly okay with that.
Walker
Just talked to mom in Wilmington. No power but everything is fine. Like Floyd, this looks like this will effect a lot of the inland, but Wilmington will be (relatively) ok.
Litlebritdifrnt
Damn T-Bogg just tweeted that Wembly has bone cancer which has spread to his lung.
Elizabelle
@Litlebritdifrnt: That’s very sad. Does not sound like a Lily miracle cure is in the cards. Poor T-Bogg and pet.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle:
Elizabelle and all. Thanks for all the interest and support. To clarify, I got back from NC (Carteret, Craven and Pitt) a couple of weeks ago. In St. Louis but following closely because of friends, etc and because of property. This looks to be worse than Floyd. Bad news for the hog industry. That’s going to be the next thing in the next 72 hrs. Toxic.
WaterGirl
@Kay: I’ll take quiet competence any day of the week.
Litlebritdifrnt
Manafort pleading guilty today according to CNN
WaterGirl
@JPL: Holy cow, that’s scary. Now I have to go google raptor vest.
Elizabelle
Performance Today (public radio) right now playing selection from Doctor Atomic, the John Addams opera Cheryl Rofer highlighted a while back. You can catch PT shows streaming for about 30 days after initial air date.
Would have been cool to see that, al fresco(?) at Santa Fe Opera.
Gelfling 545
@Bruuuuce: Also this might not be the best opportunity for a billionaire businessman to run. Saying “But, I’m a goodT billionaire” might not carry a lot of weight.
Matt McIrvin
@JPL: Their part of town was apparently not served by the bad main. Don’t know whether they turned the power back on.
But her emails!!!
@schrodingers_cat:
Belt or suspenders are equally good. Either way it viantly attempts to prevent the rest of the country from dropping trow and showing it’s ass.
James E Powell
What about in a sick, corrupt, dysfunctional democracy?
WaterGirl
@Litlebritdifrnt: Oh, no.
Spanky
@Quinerly: Pine Knoll Shores forecast from NWS:
Gin & Tonic
The Twitter machine is telling me Manafort pleaded guilty to two of seven charges in his second case. Hoping one of the myriad lawyers who comment here can explain why only two, what happens to the other five, and whether this is good or bad for the good guys.
JPL
@WaterGirl: Nothing like a big hawk go whoosh over your head. It didn’t faze Nona, but she’s a little miffed with me hovering over her when she is outside. The son and dil are in NYC to attend a wedding, and I can’t imagine what I would tell them is she was hurt.
The Moar You Know
I had some grumbling in the office from my Trumpsters about Obama’s speeches. I just laughed at them. Told them there was nothing he could do to please them except to die, so why shouldn’t he go out and badmouth them and their party?
Oh, the pouting. Jesus. They really are such delicate snowflakes.
OzarkHillbilly
@But her emails!!!: This reminds of a line from a book/movie about a man who wears both a belt and suspenders: “Never trust a man who can’t trust his own pants.”
Immanentize
@Gin & Tonic: I need to read up on which charges — are they the more serious ones? Do they implicate more co-conspirators in Ukraine? I’ll try and get back later — student office hours.
OzarkHillbilly
@Gin & Tonic: We’ll find out in an hour or so.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: Via TPM:
Gin & Tonic
@Immanentize: Fuck your students, they can wait. We need informed speculation here.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: Those would be very hard charges to pardon anyone one.
Immanentize
@Gin & Tonic: Well, it seems I am just waiting for a student who is blowing me off.
“Miscommunication” I mean.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: My thought also.
VOR
@r€nato: I found this blog post, titled “The Miserable People“, useful as it fit my perception of Trump supporters.
Platonailedit
Lock the traitorous thug up.
Platonailedit
Elizabelle
Fresh thread up, on Manafort and his deal. Hurricane Paul.
Platonailedit
Fuck the moderation. I thought bj version eleventeenth is a bfd.
Platonailedit
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: @Gin & Tonic:
OK, here is the deal — when you plead guilty to an offense, the court has a pre-sentence Investigation report prepared. In federal court, sentences are heavily guided by the federal sentencing guidelines which is a sentencing rubric that the court MUST consider. For a judge to go outside the guidelines, either up of down, she must have good reasons for doing so which are put in writing and may be appealed. The reason that the guidelines sentence range is so firm is because it includes all the normal sentencing considerations including type of crime, victims, damage, etc. For all the statutory items, aggravating and mitigating, you get ‘points’ which raise or lower your guidelines range. With me so far?
Acceptance of responsibility is a HUGE benefit to defendants. So, once one pleads guilty, the probation department (technically the judicial branch, but really just cops) will ask you to explain every detail of everything associated with the crime. if you hesitate at all, you lose your acceptance of responsibility good points and instead get bad points for lack of remorse.
These two charges will require Manafort to explain a whole heck of a lot about his money laundering crimes and his attempts to cover up sources and obstruct justice. Plus, his failure to fully come clean in this case can affect his range of punishment in the Virginia case. It will be interesting to see whether the sentencing is now consolidated….
catclub
@Quinerly:
Waveland MS got about a 30ft storm surgefrom Katrina. The high water marker, 2/3rds up the interstate 10 overpass embankment, that is ten miles from the coast,
always gets may attention.
Mike in NC
We visited New Bern a few years ago. It sits right on a very wide River and there is no high ground whatsoever.
Gin & Tonic
@Immanentize: Thank you.
Ken B
@Spanky:
I’m not a lawyer, but my understanding is that when someone flips, it’s common for them to plead to some of the (usually lesser) counts. The other charges are then held over their head in case they fail to cooperate to the satisfaction of the prosecutor\judge.
Based on that, I think he’s flipped.
Not sure how that would interact with his existing convictions and sentences.
Quinerly
@Mike in NC: confluence of Trent and Neuse. Nothing like this ever before… even Hazel and Floyd. Refrigerators floating in a street. One story houses topped. High tide again at lunch time.
Quinerly
@catclub: had friends who lost everything in Waveland in Katrina. Actually, Ihave camped in that park there years ago the night before Nola Jazz and Heritage Festival. My tent got flooded in just a normal rain. Ended up parking my Ford Probe on a little hill there so I could get a bit of a shut eye in it before the fest….probably around 1999. Haven’t been back since.
Quinerly
@Spanky: thanks. It just came through a few minutes ago on my FB feed.
Mart
I wrote this late last night on the maybe cyber attack gas explosion thread:
I would go with something simple. Utility gas pressure regulator fails on major distribution line. Your oven and a couple stove top burners are on and the burst of gas blows out the flames like birthday candles. Fill up kitchen with gas, gas finds a spark.
I did not add that the relatively few homes that blew up probably were the ones that had their pressure regulator fail. Another thought I had is with fracking a lot of factories and utilities are converting from coal fired boilers for steam to turn their electric generators to gas. Or installing what is essentially a jet engine to turn the generator directly. With cheap fracked gas the co-generated electricity is cheaper than buying from the utility, and helps with peak demand shaving in the summer. So gas companies have been scrambling to extend the required high pressure mains. Maybe they screwed up with this.
Ksmiami
@Kay: I hate them right back- they are human dreck. And they know it, hence the anger
cleosmom
I noticed that right after the 2016 election — never saw such a sorry gaggle of sore winners. They weren’t in any kind of celebrating mood: it was more like an odd kind of bitter glee.