Gabe Sherman reports that the Rosenstein leak appears to have been a "smoke bomb" to knock Kavanaugh out of the news. “The strategy was to try and do something really big,” said a source familiar with Trump's thinking. https://t.co/wWRGXJZBHA
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) September 24, 2018
… In public, Trump continues to voice support for his embattled Supreme Court nominee, telling reporters at the United Nations earlier this morning that he stands with Kavanaugh “all the way.” But in private, Trump is growing increasingly frustrated by being mired in a deteriorating political situation beyond his control. On Monday morning, a Republican briefed on Trump’s thinking said the president has been considering pulling Kavanaugh’s nomination.
According to the source, Trump allies are imploring him to cut Kavanaugh loose for the sake of saving Republicans’ electoral chances in the midterms. The argument these advisers are making is that if Kavanaugh’s nomination fails, demoralized Republicans will stay home in November, and Democrats will take the House and the Senate and initiate impeachment proceedings. The end result: Trump will be removed from office. “The stakes are that high,” the source said. Another Republican adviser told me: “Trump is very worried now, and is finally waking up that it’s the end of his presidency if he loses the Senate.” Trump’s outside allies are advising him to nominate Amy Coney Barrett and fast-track her confirmation before the midterms. “Some in the White House think you can only appoint a woman now,” a former administration official told me. An outside adviser added: “Democrats won’t be able to pivot fast enough to attack her, since she’s a woman.”…
As Kavanaugh’s poll numbers plummet, Trump is telling people in private that he was never a fan of Kavanaugh’s selection, sources said. According to two people who’ve spoken with Trump recently, Trump complained that establishment Republicans foisted Kavanaugh on him, because they reasoned Kavanaugh would unite the party in November. According to one former West Wing official, Trump’s first choice was Judge Thomas Hardiman, who served on the federal bench alongside Trump’s sister Maryanne Trump Barry.
Trump is keeping his distance from the nominee. A White House official said he hasn’t spoken with Kavanaugh in recent days. “This is Brett Kavanaugh’s fight,” the White House official said.
He likes SCOTUS nominees who don’t get captured, okay?
Kellyanne Conway just defended Brett Kavanaugh on a call with White House surrogates, urged them to defend his nomination. Compared judge to "elite media figures" like Les Moonves & Harvey Weinstein who have been accused of sexual harassment/assault, per two people on call.
— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) September 24, 2018
Say what you will about Brett Kavanaugh, but his life trajectory from suburban Maryland to Yale to Yale Law School to DC legal work to the DC Circuit give him an unprecedented connection to ordinary Americans living outside the Beltway. https://t.co/vVjDUoobkc
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 24, 2018
National Review columnist John Fund is offering "sincere apologies" for spreading false information about Kavanaugh accuser Deborah Ramirez.
Last week, a number of false claims spread through RW media about Christine Blasey Ford, misidentifying her w/a women of the same name. pic.twitter.com/UycpC85Muf
— andrew kaczynski? (@KFILE) September 24, 2018
My feeling at the moment is that the brain worms grew that goatee for you. https://t.co/kCR3CwXtyC
— zeddy (@Zeddary) September 24, 2018
"I don’t see how Kavanaugh makes it at this point,” Ed Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump Great America PAC, tells me. Says Dems have become much better than Rs at opposition research and putting together strategies for nominees.
— Robert Costa (@costareports) September 24, 2018
Senate Republicans argued Kavanaugh shouldn’t testify first, that Ford should since she’s the one who made the allegation. Now Kavanaugh has the chance to tell his story twice — on Fox tonight and again under oath Thursday. Ford says she’s denied multiple interview requests.
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) September 24, 2018
Putting the allegations made against him to one side, Kavanaugh’s “I’m not going anywhere” at the end of this clip is the least convincing assertion ever. https://t.co/ZxInf537bw
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) September 24, 2018
Jim, Foolish Literalist
dmsilev
_True_ accusations, on the other hand…
debbie
If the issues weren’t so serious, I’d truly enjoy reading all these clowns struggling to play 11-dimensional chess.
jacy
They’re saying that Kavanaugh said in the Fox interview he never had sex in high school or for “several years” after that. So, you see, he’s the real victim here.
I saw just a snippet of the interview and if you watch his micro-expressions he seem just chock full o’ contempt. It amazes me how many people can’t read really bad people when it just seems so fucking obvious.
debbie
Jerzy Russian
I hate it when people foist things on me. I also hate it when I don’t get my first choice in a process in which I am supposed to be in charge of.
jacy
Breaking news via Ari Melber — Susan Collins saying second Kavanaugh accuser should testify to Senate.
Suzy Q looking for a parachute? I personally think if Murkowski has already bailed, Collins is looking for a way out.
Chyron HR
But Mitch McConnell just said that if you’re angry it means you’re losing. Justify this inconsistency, Huey.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
@debbie:
11 dimension chess? Shit, these geniuses are playing tiddly winks, and they can’t get that right.
Mary G
Mrs. Kavanaugh looks like she’s full of horse tranquillizers. I don’t like or admire him, but making her go through this makes me hate him. He also looks right on the edge of screaming with rage, so I look forward to Kamala’s questions on Thursday, if they happen.
different-church-lady
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
MisterForkbeard
@jacy: Nah. The 2nd accuser isn’t going to do well on the stand, because she admits she was drunk and that she was 100% sure it was Kavanaugh initially.
Shes trying to sound concerned and supportive while setting up a failure that will enable her to vote for Kavanaugh
ruemara
Funny how when you elect an evil clown, killer hijinks ensue.
TenguPhule
These would be the same nameless Republicans who assured the FTFNYT that Rosenstein was gone this morning?
Edmund dantes
I was a virgin – Kavanaugh.
Oh fuck off you fucker with that weak ass explanation. The fact he thinks that is relevant as a defense proves what a bad judge he is.
TenguPhule
@ruemara:
Well played.
balconesfault
Says Dems have become much better than Rs at opposition research and putting together strategies for nominees.
Ever heard the term “target rich environment”?
TenguPhule
@Edmund dantes:
I’m not sure “I was too inept in my rape attempts to succeed in any of them” is best defense.
TenguPhule
@balconesfault:
Fish. Barrel. C-4
rollSound
@Mary G: That’s the Wendy Vitter face.
Brent Wilson
I suppose it shouldn’t surprise me at this point but how can he believe there is a likely scenario for him being removed from office regardless of what happens with respect to the Senate in November? Its not that I am surprised that he doesn’t understand how impeachment works, but given that he is as personally afraid of its consequences in the way the article describes, you would think he would ask, for instance, McConnell to explain it to him.
Dorothy A. Winsor
It’s no accident that Trump is meeting with Rosenstein on Thursday, the day Ford testifies. Rosenstein is the distraction du jour.
jacy
@TenguPhule:
All the have to do is find one girl who slept with him in high school or college (willingly) to show he’s a liar. Although I certainly wouldn’t own up to it if it were me.
Chyron HR
Full Transcript of Bret Kavanaugh’s Fox News interview: “Am I a rapist? No. Have I tried it? Probably in one of my drunken stupors.”
Dorothy A. Winsor
@balconesfault: Also the Rs are too corrupt and out of touch to identify what’s negative information. Look at Cruz trying to slam Beto.
Roger Moore
@dmsilev:
The Republicans are doing their level best to make sure those don’t derail his nomination, either.
Immanentize
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Actually, the second allegation is pretty much rock solid. It didn’t start with the victim, it started with witnesses.
And if Collins is calling for hearings on the second allegation, Kananaugh is finished
lgerard
I’m sure Kavanaugh can produce the calendar entry for the day he lost his virginity
Case closed libtards!
Adam L Silverman
@jacy: His wife’s body language was all kinds of
messed up.
TenguPhule
@Immanentize:
Which is why the Republicans on the committee have no intention of calling any of the witnesses, just the victim.
patrick II
@Chyron HR:
Did he really say that? Because that is exactly what Ms. Ford is alleging.
gene108
Trump must be sooooo confused. He’s done as much or worse to women than Kavanaugh, throughout his entire life, and a lot more recently too, and 63 million people voted him into the Presidency.
But some crap from high school is getting his boy Brett in trouble, must be really, really hard for Trump to understand.
Ladyraxterinok
The testimony/questioning will be televised, right. I read that the room assigned for Thursday is very small.
Also the GOP senators will be doing their own questioning, right? I read they wanted Kelly Ayotte to do their questioning.
Who wooda thought defending patriarchy would become so difficult // We should just repeal the 19th amendment// Like Ann Coulter repeatedly emphasizes, if women couldn’t vote, we’d never have a democrat as president again!
Adam L Silverman
@different-church-lady: with their winks…
Aleta
balconesfault
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Conservatives seem to spend so much time inside their bubble that they’re incapable of understanding any argument … or believing any facts … that exists outside their bubble.
OTOH, our media largely seems intent on judging conservatives on a curve, based on only those opinions and facts accepted within that same bubble … so we’ll keep getting exposed to BS only because it’s slightly less stupid and counterfactual than other BS,
Immanentize
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Do not ignore the fact that Rosenstein is a Kavanaugh supporter!
JaneE
I would like Kavanaugh to explain his yearbook entry. With his wife in the room, but probably better not the daughters. It doesn’t sound as if he were “not getting any”. Maybe just not getting any with consenting females. Or maybe he was just a liar then too.
NotMax
The R men on the committee can probably wangle a bulk purchase price on shock collars. Aides will be instructed to surreptitiously punch the button each time the facial mask slips.
Chyron HR
@patrick II:
No, that was Rob “Original Formula” Ford explaining why he’s not a cocaine addict.
Ladyraxterinok
@jacy: Doesn’t his claim of virginity destroy his creds with his prep school gang? Wonder what Judge would say–after he recovered from a massive laughing fit, of course
dmsilev
@NotMax: Selling access to the collar actuators would be a primo fundraiser.
TenguPhule
@Ladyraxterinok:
Judge: We were all virgins.
brettvk
@jacy: I read the quote and yelled out loud, “Bullshit!” I don’t for a moment believe that a DKE bro saved himself for marriage in the 1980s. I hope the intertubes do their worst with that clip.
cynthia ackerman
FSM, how I hope the Kavanaugh debacle is seen by future historians as the Edmund Pettis Bridge moment for our current GOP, and that McConnell is clearly painted as the worst of the worst.
Fuck that all.
TenguPhule
@JaneE:
Why? Forewarned is forearmed and don’t they deserve a chance to recognize a sex offender by his behavior?
NotMax
@dmsilev
Win-win situation!
:)
khead
Hugh isn’t that far off – he’s just talking about the wrong bubble. Enjoy this from a dudebro in bizarro world, AKA my FB feed:
If I had to take a guess I am thinking, if asked, he would say Merrick Garland is a school principal in southern WV. The GOP bubble is strong.
JPL
@Mary G: It was creepy to bring in the girls team that he coached to the hearings. When has another nominee had a teenage cheering section behind them?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Immanentize: OT: I noticed that the commercials that UCLA has on during their football games has robots in them.
Martin
@Dorothy A. Winsor: That wasn’t negative information to the voters he’s trying to turn out.
gene108
@Immanentize:
DO not forget Rosenstein was appointed to his job by Trump, and confirmed by a Republican controlled Senate.
He isn’t a liberal savior. He just seems to have more respect for the rule of law than any elected Republican official.
Doug R
@Mary G:
She married the contemptous rapey frat boy in the wingnut bubble, now she’s got to live with it.
I feel for that poor 13 year old I saw at his ass kissing speech.
Doug R
contemptuous
Martin
@jacy:
The plan is to get him confirmed before that can happen. This is a race. They need 50 votes to seat him but Democrats need 66 to remove him.
khead
Larry Hogan is gonna win again in MD but, wow, he sure is one defensive douchebag in the debate for a guy leading by 20 points.
Spanky
@JPL:
Roy Moore?
Cheryl Rofer
ruemara
@JPL: I thought it was weird that they were making such a big deal about his coaching of whatever. He’s not being hired to coach the senate republican baseball team. Now, it makes sense.
Mary G
FTFNYT still sticking to the Rosenstein story:
In such a hurry to get it out, spelled reiterated “rehirerated,” if you are a professional writer, Mr. Schmidt, there is a thing called spellcheck you may want to look into.
sukabi
Kavanaugh’s claiming that he was a virgin through high school and college and beyond so there’s no way he assaulted anyone.
lamh36
Mary G
I like these lawyers:
Steve in the ATL
From what I’ve seen of Kavanaugh, I have no problem believing that, despite his many attempts at committing rape, he was involuntarily celibate throughout high school and for many years afterward.
Creepy mofo.
different-church-lady
@Adam L Silverman: I didn’t want to be responsible for such an image…
Aleta
Immanentize
@?BillinGlendaleCA: UCLA is planning for the class of 2029. I am not joking. In the University world, outside of the big universities, if you are not planning for recruitment ten years from now, you are sunk.
But if you are a biggy like UCLA, you understand that, and spend money doing that. That is why great universities stay great. Whatever great is.
Baud
@Steve in the ATL: Did he show the calendar entry for when he first had sex as proof?
Aleta
@Steve in the ATL: Constant drunken state and no recall couldn’t have helped.
lamh36
lamh36
Mary G
His hero worship of Twitler is off the charts. Wants a fair process, but cuts off his wife from answering whether or not a FBI investigation should be reopened.
sukabi
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): pocket pool would be their game of choice.
Immanentize
@Martin: I think his virginity is a total red herring. Who is more likely to go along with the boys, wangle his dick in front of a girl, prove unable to perform even when in control than a man who has bought into a sick version of virginity.
Ideals of virginity increase antisocial behavior. See Priests.
Baud
@Immanentize:
If I had a nickel for every time I tried that line….
Mary G
Dr. Blasey Ford’s lawyers also trolling not having senators ask the questions:
And they refer to her as Dr. Blasey Ford so I know which version of her name to use.
MagdaInBlack
Aside from that being flat out ignorant in that statement, you wouldn’t have lasted 5 minutes as a “longshoreman.” You’d have to actually WORK.
I despise these people.
lamh36
Ok…ugh…so I have to do a 10 page term paper for this Health Econ class, and I have no idea where to start. I know I want to do something that’s lab related (since I AM a laboratory tech)…but I’m stumped…and I have about 2-3 weeks before my first outline is due, and then the finish product will be due by November!
Ugh…any body got any ideas…hit a sister up!
Hungry Joe
@Martin: This. Trump will NOT be removed via impeachment, then conviction in the Senate: You couldn’t get 16 GOP senators (51 Dems, plus 16 GOP to get to 67 — 2/3) to vote to convict Trump if he were to, oh, I don’t know — shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. They (so far) can’t even come up with two votes to heave Rapey McRapeface overboard.
Immanentize
@Steve in the ATL: Incel?
sukabi
@Adam L Silverman: she’s likely had more than her share of trauma at his hands. He doesn’t look like he’d be a happy drunk. And even more “fun” on the way.?
lamh36
Baud
@lamh36:
Just write “Single Payer!” for 10 pages like all the cool kids do.
Immanentize
@Baud:
The Flea, By John Donne
Dorothy A. Winsor
Does it strike anyone else as odd that both stories we’ve heard about Kavanaugh’s sexual assaults include male witnesses being present? Sexual assault gets talked about as he-said she-said because there’s usually no one else there. Just who is K trying to impress with his sexual prowess here?
lamh36
@Baud: ugh…if it was that easy…
oh and not for nothing, but I’m pretty sure my teacher (who just so happens to be the department head) is a wingnutty economist…down to the text he is using for the class…and it’s beyond hard for me NOT to roll my eyes…
chopper
@lamh36:
oh that’s just hilarious. he expects us to buy that?
lamh36
chopper
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
likely he had friends around to watch the door. he likely did the same for his friends.
Immanentize
@MagdaInBlack: That was satire — the Borenstein Report
Immanentize
@lamh36: Do you read David’s posts? 10 ideas a day
Miss Bianca
@MagdaInBlack: Errmm…you do realize that Andy Borowitz is a satirist, right? That that article is parody?
Tho’ I totally get it if you didn’t. Parody these days is having to gallop so hard to stay ahead of reality that the poor beastie might just just drop down dead of exhaustion.
lamh36
MagdaInBlack
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Tag team.
Wing man.
Riding shotgun.
You get the idea.
lamh36
@Immanentize:i do…but I also have to be able to write about them with some understanding…and as much as I read David’s post…health care economics are just not my thing…so by trying to relate it to lab issues, I think I can at least get 10 pages out of it…
Steve in the ATL
@Immanentize: ayup
Baud
@lamh36: In that case, you can write about the best way to shop for a deal if your appendix bursts.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Immanentize: Hmmm, I just thought that Imp had made quite an impression on them. As an aside…next year is UCLA’s 100th year.
sukabi
@Mary G: so the grabby old pervs want a sex crimes prosecutor to question Dr. Ford? Will he be questioning Kavanaugh as well? Dems should be able to have their own sex crimes prosecutor question Kavanaugh.
sukabi
@MagdaInBlack: Andy Borowitz…satire.?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: …and conclude with “America has the greatest health care system in the world”.
Mary G
And in Twitler’s speech at the UN today, he says he wants to work with the administration in Colombia to eliminate cocoa production. You think women hate you now, buddy? The Chocolate Wars will be brutal but short.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Immanentize: He’s good, but he’s no Dick Mayhew.
Jay
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
No. Gang Rapes require more than one participant.
Steve in the ATL
@Dorothy A. Winsor: maybe he liked have a dude in the room because he’s a closeted homosexual like his idol, john Roberts
Chyron HR
@Mary G:
BREAKING, MUST CREDIT NYT: One time Rod Rosenstein went to the White House, and it was dark in there, and he saw some shadows and thought it was Dracula, but John Kelly said it was the coat hanging on the rack, and he turned on the light and it really was Dracula. Okay, bye.
Karla
@lamh36: Maybe something about the shortages resulting from the hurricane in Puerto Rico or the apparently bad decisions by leaders of companies making injectable opioids in the continental U.S.? I don’t know how they’ve affected research science since I left the field, but hospitals have been thrown for a loop.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Don’t forget the Amen!
Immanentize
@lamh36: OK. Empirical research? Or at least focussed on lab work. How about the economics of cancer DNA testing? Valuable or not? I could do 10 pages on that sorry topic.
Mike in NC
Rosenstein? Kavanaugh? Fuck this so-called reality! I’m going back to Nantucket tomorrow even if it means I have to swim there.
Immanentize
@sukabi:
SHE! Will she be questioning….
raven
@Mike in NC: This exhibition explores the Republic of Cape Verde, its people, maritime history, connections to New England, and the legacies that continue to tie New Bedford and its culture to Cape Verde. This exhibition captures the essence of the important connections between New Bedford and Cape Verde, the unique characteristics of Cape Verdean culture, and the special legacy of that culture and history here in New Bedford.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
What seems implausible about a claim that frat boys in the 1980s spent all of their time studying hard and praying to keep their virginity until marriage? //
Steve in the ATL
@lamh36: how about a human interest story about a poor lawyer who received a bullshit $400 bill from a hospital for a procedure from months ago that supposedly wasn’t covered by insurance? Compelling stuff!
Citizen_X
Talk about your wingnut bubble. Because it worked out so well for those guys, right, Kellyanne?
SiubhanDuinne, Badass Jackal
@jacy:
Not for want of trying!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Of course.
MagdaInBlack
@Immanentize:
Well…ok…..but I stand by how long he’d last…
I missed whom it was from…..?
Shoot me, its been a long day.
Laugh at me for erupting ☺️
@Miss Bianca:
SiubhanDuinne, Badass Jackal
@Jerzy Russian:
Why the fuck doesn’t he just nominate his sister and be done with it?
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne, Badass Jackal: She’s old and may be a moderate.
Patricia Kayden
@jacy: Or maybe many people are okay with bad people as long as those bad people are on their side. Hence Trump in the White House and a Republicans in full control of Congress.
lamh36
@Immanentize:
opiejeanne
@SiubhanDuinne, Badass Jackal: She might not be a bad choice. (I know nothing about her really but I suspect she’s a lot more sensible than Trump)
Steve in the ATL
@Patricia Kayden: ayup
Immanentize
@MagdaInBlack: Borenstein is more accurate than many news sources. He is gestalt accurate.
Luthe
@lamh36: Costs of the lab tests you perform (for materials, labor, energy, etc) vs. the costs charged by the lab/hospital/insurance companies? I’m sure the tests you do are hella cheaper than the mark up charged to the insurer.
Mary G
@Mnemosyne: And a frat whose members are famous for running around chanting “No means yes, and yes means anal,” and caused the frat’s charter to earn a five years suspension in 2011? Sure, Jan.
Aleta
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Proving his hetero-ability to the hetero world?
Or to Judge? Or to some past priest?
Judge wrote that after drunkenness etc, they would go tell their Sex and Marriage teacher (also a priest) about it. The teacher later left teaching, had a popular radio show, and then spent 5 or so years in prison for possesion of child pornography.
Immanentize
@lamh36: OK.
I teach professors how to do scholarship. First rule -+ what pisses you off? Because that passion will sustain you.
Mnemosyne
@Citizen_X:
The wingnuts are up in arms because what Kellyanne actually said was that it’s hypocritical of the media to go after Kavanaugh because they covered for Weinstein et al for so long. Which is not exactly the same as a full-throated declaration that Kavanaugh is innocent of all charges.
Luthe
@lamh36: Aha! How economies of scale affect the costs of certain lab tests and whether this affects pricing on the market.
SiubhanDuinne, Badass Jackal
@Edmund dantes:
Weren’t we all, once.
Weren’t we all.
lamh36
@Steve in the ATL:
@Immanentize:
@Karla:
https://media.giphy.com/media/9PMC8BD8b2AaA/giphy.gif
Immanentize
@lamh36:
#2 — it doesn’t have to be lab based or emprical? Just a straight up research project of the current climate?
khead
@lamh36:
Not exactly sure what you are looking for but…..
Microfluidic analytical devices and the Theranos implosion. Promises vs. reality.
Baud
@Mary G: Maybe his claim to virginity is based on God’s Loophole.
Jay
@SiubhanDuinne, Badass Jackal:
Technically, multiple gang rapes during High School and Prep School doesn’t count as “having sex”,
sukabi
@Immanentize: damn, don’t yell.
Have they decided on a “questioner” yet? At this point it’s all speculation. I thought Grassley had told Dr. Ford’s lawyers that she couldn’t bring in someone to ask questions that the senators would be doing it…now they want to treat her like she’s the perp.
Luthe
@jacy: You have to remember, these assholes define “sex” as p*nis-in-vagina. So that hummer they got from a drunk sorority girl wasn’t really “sex.”
Martin
@Dorothy A. Winsor: You bring a buddy along so you have someone who can (falsely) refute the girl’s claim. The administration doesn’t want to deal with problems, so having a 3rd party swearing that nothing happened usually resulted in the matter being dropped.
Bringing a buddy is clear evidence of predatory intent.
lamh36
@Luthe:
@Luthe:
https://media1.tenor.com/images/656bfac179db0fee1983726a428d1626/tenor.gif?itemid=9319693
SiubhanDuinne, Badass Jackal
@opiejeanne: Plus, she’s already 81 years old, so even if she turned out to be terrible it wouldn’t be for an inordinately long time.
Martin
@Luthe: 3rd base doesn’t put a run on the board.
sukabi
@Baud: plus she’s more than likely sick of his shit.
raven
@Immanentize: SOTL?
Immanentize
@lamh36: The cost of the American system requiring separation of a Doctor’s business and a lab business versus the European model of combined doctor and lab services.
Nice because international, too.
lamh36
Uh huh…so blindly signing off on a letter of support for someone for partisan reasons..didn’t quite work for ya huh lady
catclub
some one else pointing out that he is a creature of the DC swamp that trump pretends to care about.
lamh36
Cheryl Rofer
Let us hope.
There is an article in the Times about a phrase that occurs multiple times in Kavanaugh’s yearbook: “Renate Alumnus.” K’s spokesperson says it merely refers to his having taken her out once on a date and kissed her, chastely, once.
Any of us who went to high school can figure out that’s a lie, I think. It’s entirely possible that the boys calling themselves that were bragging on no basis whatsoever, but they were sliming Renate.
zhena gogolia
@Cheryl Rofer:
Yep.
Aleta
@lamh36: Lab tests or screening in the economics of children’s health care? Or something to do with lab work in the economics of children’s preventative medicine ?
Mary G
@Cheryl Rofer: I didn’t want to bother going around the paywall, but it looks like Renate is PISSED and said so the the FYFNYT:
chopper
@Luthe:
it’s not that as much as he’s just lying through his fucking teeth. hell, he also said he didn’t do much drinking at all. his former roommate at yale is all ‘dude was tanked to the point of incoherence much of the time’. dude was in DKE for fuck’s sake, what was he, the house chaplain?
this isn’t ‘depends on the definition of sex’, he’s just bullshitting. motherfucker was a virgin all the way through college my lily-white ass.
Cheryl Rofer
The transparent lying is an assertion of power.
MoxieM
@Immanentize: Yup. I think rapey douche frat boys aer the flip side of Incels. Both think of women as meat to be obtained, &&
Mary G
@lamh36: The new shingles vaccine? My doctors won’t do it but advise I go to CVS and get it. Don’t know why.
catclub
@SiubhanDuinne, Badass Jackal: But he was frequently blind drunk/ incoherently drunk. as an underage drinker.
In a sane world that alone should disqualify him from a seat on the court.
raven
@Mary G: Mine as well, I got #1 last week at the pharmacy.
hueyplong
Only on FOX could an assertion of virginity be a complete defense to accusations of sexual assaults that do not include allegations of penetration.
FOX people hew to a logic I can’t follow.
raven
The Moar You Know
@lamh36: That’s comedy gold.
It means you were the frat bicycle, lady. They knew it, you know it, now the whole world knows it. Hopefully you’ve learned a lesson here, and next time you won’t sign letters of support for rapists.
TS (the original)
When you think he can’t get any more revolting – He is back to attacking the San Juan Mayor
From wapo
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
Gross gross gross
Redshift
@jacy:
Well, if he had a reputation as an attempted rapist, that could have hurt his chances…
Immanentize
@chopper: Kavanaugh thinking:
It worked for Clinton!
opiejeanne
We spent a few hours in Newport Beach today and it was lovely at first. We had a nice time at a cafe waiting for a business to open, walked around the marina afterwards, then headed to Rogers Garden to see the Halloween display, which was quite something, gloriously silly but the prices!!!.
While we were there something got to me, maybe it was all the extreme wealth displayed in the parking lot or all the older very rich women, extremely thin women blocking walkways while they gabbed, not noticing anyone else. The Hispanic men discreetly moving hoses and watering some of the plants in pots, so discreet that they were invisible to almost everyone there. The cafe with a one month waiting list for lunch. The contrast was just too much
By the time we were done I couldn’t wait to get out of town, and I’ve always liked Newport Beach. Driving down MacArthur looking for the freeway onramp, I looked around at all of the newish high-rise buildings and it just really got to me. We’re not poor, we have a second home in the mountains in SoCal, but all of that money, that extreme wealth concentrated right there in that Republican enclave was just overwhelming. Sickening. Infuriating.
lamh36
@Luthe: that is actually a topic and friend and I did discuss…the economics of lab cost reinbursment from private insurance vs medicare/medicaid?
sukabi
@lamh36: Reading that I got a very sick feeling…I think that woman is in for some very rough times as she comes to grip with memories that have been buried for 30+ years.
Immanentize
@raven: Yes, I used to head up your CTLE (Center for Teaching and Learning Education). Clinical Legal Education scholarship is 90% SOTL.
TS (the original)
@sukabi: I hope Dr Blasey Ford will attend the hearing and refuse to answer any questions from anyone other than senators on the committee.
Caphilldcne
@lamh36: how about some modeling on savings produced by getting doing emergency room testing for HIV in states with high HIV rates. (Or maybe in southern states that did not expand Medicaid). The impact of early diagnosis could be high. I’ve got some very recent modeling of the US epidemic that I can send to you. Not sure how to relate it to labs however. Or could look at Similar testing for STIs?
Steve in the ATL
@catclub: underage drinking—omg!!!!!!!
Clearly you did not go to high school or college.
I find the gang rape allegations far, far more concerning than underage drinking.
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Skynet lives.
Elizabelle
Kavanaugh is not going to get his Supreme Court seat. He is the butt of jokes. That will not put him on the highest court.
We have to make sure that Trump seats no more justices. We are better with the 8 we have. He can nominate Merrick Garland, but no one else. It would just be self-dealing.
Calouste
@Redshift: “Mr. Kavanaugh, we’re not here to talk about whether your sexual assault succeeded, we’re here to talk about whether you attempted it.”
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Agreed.
Barbara
@Mary G: Co-sign. I can never forget Eliot Spitzer practically pushing his wife in front of reporters. What a coward.
tjmn
@Mary G: The chocolate wars will be brutal, but short.
That needs to be a rotating tag line.
Well done!
chopper
@Immanentize:
difference being, people liked clinton.
seriously, ‘i was totes a virgin’? honestly?
raven
@Immanentize: Mine? At UGA?
sukabi
@The Moar You Know: slight possible problem with that, if she was one of the girls targeted she could have been passed out and have not known for sure what happened.
Mike in NC
@raven: Thanks. Probably my favorite place to live was Newport, RI for three years. Close to shopping in Boston, New Bedford, and Fall River, MA. I was also an avid scuba diver way back then and went lobstering on many weekends. Nantucket reminded me of coastal RI and Cape Cod.
Omnes Omnibus
@chopper: Hey, it was attempted rape.
TenguPhule
@MagdaInBlack:
That is an innocent phrase and doesn’t belong there.
Mary G
@opiejeanne: I know, I used to love Rogers Gardens when they were just in a field in the middle of nowhere, but it’s conspicuous consumption all the way down now. And all the people who knew about plants and bought rare ones you can’t get anywhere else have all been fired for being homely and having dirt under their nails, and they don’t have nearly the selection in the huge space they have now that they used to have in the tiny one. Did you see the parking lot for the help? My mom and I parked there by accident once, and it’s full of plants the rich people just pointed to waiting for the gardener to pick up. Carry your own.
TenguPhule
@Elizabelle:
let;s not jinx it until he’s actually gone?
chopper
the amazing thing is, all this schmuck needed to do was get in front of this by dealing with it, admitting to it, and saying that after it all when he was 25 he turned around and “found christ” and was “born again” and all that bullshit and goopers would be piling themselves up to take a bullet for him.
raven
@Mike in NC: Ah, I thought you were just visiting last week.
sukabi
@Barbara: The one I remember was Wendy Vitter in her leopard print looking sick and shell shocked.
lamh36
TenguPhule
@chopper:
I’m sure he has a perfectly reasonable line of bullshit to explain that.
danielx
@balconesfault:
When your opponents keep nominating misogynist dipshits…..
Immanentize
@raven: Sorry, I meant to type “our”. But not take backs in BJ. I would love to head up UGA’s center. They are doing some great stuff.
chopper
@Steve in the ATL:
the venn diagram of “people who get blind, forgetful drunk” and “people who end up doing horrible things to other people” is pretty close to a circle.
MagdaInBlack
@TenguPhule:
Innocent in your world, perhaps.
TenguPhule
@Mary G:
Give me chocolate or give Trump death.
hueyplong
@Elizabelle: I’m old enough to remember Clarence Thomas being the butt of jokes. Whatever happened to him?
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36: Economic benefits of vaccines. You can do a historic review about how disease ravaged populations, how vaccines changed that and end it with present day anti-vaxers.
Mary G
@lamh36: Or why people who don’t have insurance get charged a huge amount just in case they can pay it? I used to get Rituxin IVs that they would bill $40,000 and accept $6,500 from Medicare. I could never get a straight answer about why there was never a poor, and rarely a person of color, in the infusion suite, and just feel sick thinking about somebody suffering that could not get what I got because I had those two little cards.
chopper
@TenguPhule:
it was obviously a reference to 100 kegs of sweet, wholesome root beer, brewed in the basement of the church he spent seriously all of his free time at worshipping jesus am i right y’all?
raven
@Immanentize: I was just thinking, damn, you live here!!!! Do you know Lori R?
The Thin Black Duke
@chopper: Pride goeth before a fall and all that. In the end this might be what saves us, because these sick mofos CAN’T EVEN PRETEND to be compassionate human beings, they can’t do it.
Elizabelle
@opiejeanne: Interesting take on Newport Beach. I did not like the place the first time I was there. Full of people who looked at you, but did not talk to you.
Rogers Gardens is beautiful. Sorry that it was full of trophy wife types. A danger of the OC beach communities.
Roger Moore
@Luthe:
They need to ask if he had anything he would have classified as sex if it occurred between Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski.
raven
@raven: Omes probably does, she came from up there on the tundra!
Anotherlurker
@opiejeanne: Boy, opiejeanne, I know that feeling! I grew up in a rich town. I am 3rd generation in a line of cooks, gardeners and domestics. Scottish Grandmother (Estate Chef, Italian Grandfather, Gardener).
I made my liviving as a broadcast TV tech, Audio.
One thing I find to be consistent: the rich don’t notice the help. We are invisible. The conversations that I have heard , as a tech, onset, in the sports broadcast booth and as a waiter, bartender, busboy have been candid, unguarded . I have heard racist words about President Obama from the president of a sports network. I have heard misogynistic statements, from upper mgt., about one of my bosses, a very attractive production manager.
Shit, as a scrawny, 17 year old busboy, I was propositioned by a woman who was a member of of very exclusive yacht club.
We (the wait staff) used to joke that the typical yacht club member’s wife was small brested and large footed. This was a genetic mutation that evolved so that when they consumed too many Tanquerey and Tonics, they would not fall over, due to the center of gravity being lowered.
for the most part, the rich hold the help in contempt. We are there for them to use and then forget about, until our services are needed, again, for their comfort.
To be fair, I did work for a very wealthy couple who did a lot of good in this world. They took the concept of Noblese Oblige seriously. The patriarch of the family retired from a very large law firm. He spent his retirement as an election judge for volital countries. I believe he was involved in overseeing something in South Africa, during the end of apartheid .
Thoughtful David
@hueyplong:
Well, he has never spoken a word since.
Elizabelle
@hueyplong: The Clarence Thomas who got 11 Democratic votes? That Clarence Thomas?
TenguPhule
@Steve in the ATL:
Somehow I managed to go through high school and college without doing either.
raven
@Elizabelle: Ever shoot the hoop at that awesome court at Laguna?
Immanentize
@raven: I live near Boston. But I may know Lori…. Does she belong to POD? Professional and Organizational Development? Sort of an offshoot of AAC&U for CTL/SOTL folks
chopper
@The Thin Black Duke:
it’s a sign of progress that the ‘i didn’t do it and also she’s a slut’ defense doesn’t work so much anymore. it’s also sad that the ‘just say you found jesus’ defense still likely would. really all of this is just a bunch of different dimensions of sad and enraging.
Barbara
@lamh36: One man’s ceiling is another man’s floor. What you consider moderate is no doubt relative to what others around you are doing.
TenguPhule
@MagdaInBlack: It originates from stage coaches and migrated into who rides in the first passenger side seat of the vehicle.
Elizabelle
@raven: No, missed that. Do love the Laguna art galleries. And the Pageant of the Masters. Biked along the Pacific a LOT. I miss SoCal.
Do not miss the moneyed types. Conspicuous consumption. Meh. Must have empty lives.
Omnes Omnibus
@TenguPhule: I seldom drank in high school. And the drinking age was 18 when I started college. I still managed to avoid gang or other forms of rape. It isn’t all that difficult.
Jay
“Renate
A sweet, beautiful and loving girl, with an unique name. With a great personality. Pretty shy and loves long talks and cuddling. She isn’t like all the other girls, she’s very unique. She has high standards and is very caring. The type of girl every boy wants”
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Renate&=true
Immanentize
@Elizabelle: But Thomas list two Republican votes. We live in vastly different times.
TenguPhule
@Omnes Omnibus: 21 here. It helped that the beer available smelled like bready piss.
Immanentize
@Immanentize: list=lost. Time for bed, I think.
opiejeanne
@Doug R: His wife strikes me as someone he married because he needed a wife; a non-threatening female, presentable in appearance and not a flashy dresser daily life, with whom to have children. For his career, for advancement in his career.
I am dead certain he’s got someone on the side, possibly an ever-changing string of young women who look like models.
raven
@Immanentize: No, Law Prof here. Big in con law and voting. We’re all hooked up with POD and AAC&U, we’re going to co-host the AAC&U Annual Conference in Atlanta in January. My civilian email is markann at the goggle mail place if you want to shoot me a note and we’ll compare them!
James E Powell
@Elizabelle:
When I moved to Los Angeles from Cleveland, that was my impression of the whole of southern California.
Calouste
@chopper: The problem with that is that he is Catholic and has been his whole life.
Immanentize
@raven: will do definite tomorrow
TenguPhule
@opiejeanne:
Fairly certain they’re his clerks. And once he was done with them, John Roberts got his sloppy seconds.
J R in WV
@a href=”#comment-7028776″>Immanentize:
My doctor has a lab right there in his office. Does almost all of the routine blood work associated with appointments, most results available before you leave, partly because he wants to see them at the end of the appointment, which takes all day, but I don’t care. Full service family practice, plus board cert gerontologist.
I suspect a large part of his take home income is from the billing for the lab services. A long time ago he sent patients down stairs to the medical staff building lab, but that stopped years and years ago. We’ve been seeing him since the late 1970s… when he started his independent practice.
He leased his office, the docs do not have an end date, nor any method for ending a lease, so they can’t kick him out. He is the last independent doctor in the 11 story building. He has a grand piano and a huge couch in his office, has taken refuge there from power outages with wife, cats and dogs, on the hospital’s generator. They also put up sturdy aluminium flood walls when it rains a ton, which makes it hard to park in the garage under the facility.
raven
@Elizabelle: Here it is!
MagdaInBlack
@TenguPhule:
Thank you for clarifying.
I am well aware of the origin.
I am also an over-educated old woman with some very interesting people in my past.
Trust me that there are other, more recent meanings, not all of them so…..innocent.
?
Elizabelle
@Immanentize: Bob Packwood and Jim Jeffords were the NO votes among Republicans. Interesting.
FTF NY Times: How the Senate voted re Clarence Thomas. John McCain was a yes. As was his Democratic colleague from Arizona, Dennis DeConcini, and Sam Nunn of Georgia. So was Democrat (then!) Richard Shelby.
Joe Lieberman was a No. Dang, both Virginia Senators were a Yes. Chuck Robb (for shame!) and John Warner. A lot of the Southern and Western Democratic Senators voted yes.
TenguPhule
Because Texas.
raven
@Immanentize: I look forward to it.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@hueyplong:
#MeToo also wasn’t a thing and the Dems then were willing to overlook Thomas’ improprieties. Now, they’re fighting like hell. He also only ever had one accuser of sexual misconduct. Not attempted rape. He could still be seated but it’s looking really bad right now for the GOP
WaterGirl
@lamh36: Do we think Renate was one of the girls who was gang raped? Maybe passed out drunk?
Immanentize
@raven: Oh my, that Lori R! Big deal and the real deal at this moment. Alex S is a longtime colleague and friend of mine.
MomSense
I’m watching Rachel and I feel sick. Sometimes this is just too much. I’d walk my dog but I’m currently icing a swollen knee.
Omnes Omnibus
@opiejeanne:
Nah, he comes off as enough of a dork that I believe his virgin story. He was the kid who showed up at the fraternity rush mixer and had to talk about his SAT scores or the car his parents gave him. When his picture came on the screen, my fraternity would have thrown beer cans at it.
Elizabelle
@James E Powell: Mine too! I had flown down from San Francisco, which was a way friendlier (and more walkable) city. But then I grew to like SoCal. Most of it. I miss the landscape.
TenguPhule
North Carolina is just shit out of luck.
TenguPhule
@TenguPhule: South Carolina, even.
raven
@Immanentize: She’s really nice, she and hers live in the neighborhood and we see them a good deal
Elizabelle
@raven: That is a bball court with a view. Wow.
Did you play there? Lucky bug.
Mike J
@WaterGirl: She signed the letter saying he was a “nice guy”, but she didn’t know about his yearbook since she didn’t go to the same high school.
Mary G
@raven: Main Beach represent!
Immanentize
@Elizabelle:
Wow Blasts from the past with certain intimate knowledge of harrassment.
oldgold
Avenatti s coming on Rachel’s show right now.
raven
@Immanentize: Oh cool, I see him around but don’t know him.
Elizabelle
@TenguPhule: Georgetown SC had a disastrous fire in its historic downtown a few years ago. They do not need this flood. Charming place. A Rice Museum I have yet to visit. Not so far from Pawleys Island.
Although I have mixed feelings about the Palmetto State, with its Republican-voting habit. For shame.
Amir Khalid
@sukabi:
A highly implausible claim.
Elizabelle
@Immanentize: Yeah. Packwood was interesting. And Jeffords later caucused with the Democrats.
Mark Hatfield, a moderate Republican of Oregon and Packwood’s colleague, was a yes. For shame. He got a lot of good press in the day.
OldDave
@MagdaInBlack:
You should note that’s from an Andy Borowitz satire / political humor article and almost assuredly non-factual. Funny, I must admit, but not reality.
raven
@Elizabelle: Yea, in me and my brother 1984!
psycholinguist
Avenatti just said his story will drop within 48 hours. OHhhhhhhh man
Chetan Murthy
@MagdaInBlack: How *interesting*. I can see how that might have happened (inferring what your (ahem) “modern usage” might be, from the list you provided).
Sigh.
Jay
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
5 accusers actually, only Anita Hill was allowed to testify.
schrodingers_cat
New thread?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Kavanaugh’s Yale roommate drops a bomb: aggressive and belligerent drunk.
schrodingers_cat
@sukabi: We are supposed to believe a creepy predator because?
Chetan Murthy
@Jay: FIVE? I’d read of two others. But FIVE? OK, now I”m even *madder* at Biden than I was already. Ugh.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Jay:
Oh? I guess I need to brush up on my history. Still, the political and social climate is different now.
Barbara
@J R in WV: Most doctors can only do simple lab tests with autoprocessing. Anything more sophisticated means they have to be CLIA certified, which most doctors’ offices won’t do.
schrodingers_cat
@Chetan Murthy: Biden better not run for President.
lamh36
I don’t know, but would Dr. Ford be better served by giving an on-camera interview w/news net. Or maybe even sittindown for an interview right after testifying or right after Kavanugh testifies
Mary G
@Jay: That’s what I will never forgive Joe Biden for. The women were IN THE BUILDING ready to back up her story and he “just couldn’t do it” like he had no control over anything. I just imagine all the time and effort and emotional struggle they put in deciding to speak up and were just not allowed to.
Elizabelle
@psycholinguist: Multiple Avenatti clients. Victim and witnesses.
zhena gogolia
@Chetan Murthy:
As I recall at the time it was two.
MisterForkbeard
@WaterGirl: That’s immediately where my wife went with it, saying she probably never knew she was assaulted. I had to forcefully remind her that Renate is just saying that Kvanaugh lied about screwing her with all his friends.
Amir Khalid
@Mary G:
Good luck with that. A lot of fine upstanding Colombians are not going to give up their traditional coca-leaf tea without a fight.
Immanentize
@raven: Love the short shorts.
lamh36
@psycholinguist:
Elizabelle
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The Kavanaugh and Ted Cruz roomies could form a mutual aid society.
They both survived disastrous roommates. Compare notes, guys.
Jay
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
While the general climate outside the “bubbles” is a lot different now,
for the “woke”, the general climate had already changed before the Thomas hearings.
Original Lee
@lamh36: Maybe you could do something with the different kinds of marker tests? I honestly don’t know very much about this, but I do know that my doctors really try hard not to order a full liver function panel if they can help it, because it’s so expensive.
Alternatively, you could do a cost/benefit analysis of MRI assessment of diastolic and systolic heart function. IIRC, the diastolic is cheaper but the systolic is more comprehensive.
frosty
@opiejeanne:
Years ago I did a cross-country trip returning to SoCal; since it was winter I headed south and west. After Alabama, Mississippi, rural Texas, and New Mexico, dropping down I-8 into San Diego gave me a similar feeling. The obvious money everywhere and the contrast to where I’d been was eye-opening.
Omnes Omnibus
@Immanentize: We are not going to start with Nair ads. I am firm on this.
satby
@MisterForkbeard: you had to “forcefully remind her”?!? WTF
Given the other stuff that comes out, it could be both that she’s saying he’s lying and she might have been assaulted while drunk and unconscious, thus not realizing it.
raven
@Immanentize: Yea, even Jordan wore them then. I still have the reversible NBA “Noon Basketball Association” shirt!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Michelle Goldberg should be one of the most quoted pundits in pundit land
Immanentize
@satby:
I ❤️ Satby.
psycholinguist
@opiejeanne: A colleague in my department (psychology) is a sex researcher. Not particularity political, but she’s been following the women involved here. We were talking and I asked about her views, and she asked about Kavenaugh’s wife – age difference, when they were married. Didn’t know at the time, but she bet she was younger and that K married late. His wife is 10 years younger, and he was 40 before he married, as she predicted. She thinks there’s going to be a lot more come out that happened in his pre-marriage adulthood – not necessarily rape, but dominant, probably violent. Reminded me of the stuff the New York DA.
Mnemosyne
@WaterGirl:
I think she’s probably just someone who didn’t realize she was the object of nasty rumors among the boys at Georgetown Prep. Sucks to be her and find this shit out 30 years later, but maybe next time she’ll check before she blindly endorses someone.
Though if she does have any alcohol-related gaps in her high school memories, she’s probably freaking the fuck out right now. I would be, too.
raven
@frosty: When we moved out there in the late 50’s Laguna was a sleepy little place with this dude meeting you.
Mike in NC
@Elizabelle: Georgetown, SC is quite a nice place.
MisterForkbeard
@satby: Meaning, my wife kept interrupting me when I was trying to explain what had happened saying “So she just found out she was assaulted!” “No… she was saying that -” “they tried to get girls drunk with jungle juice and she just found out!” “No, she was only saying that Kavanaugh-” ” They got girls blackout drunk, so she wouldn’t have even remembered.” “Let me finish – shes not saying that happened! She is saying Kavanaugh and his friends were all lying about her and spreading rumors!” “Oh! I hope that’s all that happened.”
That’s what I mean by “forcefully”. My wife immediately went to the worst possible explanation, which is… pretty reasonable.
debbie
@jacy:
Mr. High School Virgin must have been quite at home at this fraternity.
janesays
I’d love to believe that the loss of the Senate by the GOP would result in Trump being removed from office, but who are we kidding here?
In the absolute best case scenario, Democrats hold all of their red state seats and pick up Arizona, Nevada, Texas, and Tennessee (very unlikely all of that will happen). That gives them a 53 seat majority.
Who exactly are the 14 Republican senators that are going to vote to remove Trump from office after he is impeached in the House?
They don’t exist. You might get 2 or 3 if you’re lucky, but that’s about it. But 14? Not a snowball’s chance in hell.
Immanentize
@raven: When I see them, I think Cowens, Bird and Parish. Now you know where my Dad’s heart lie.
Bill Arnold
@jacy:
I was kinda-sorta hoping he’d go for emergency Botox injections after his transparent efforts in his (2018, first) Senate confirmation hearing. Probably would have been too obvious though. :-)
MisterForkbeard
@MisterForkbeard: Yeah. Though I feel like we can guess about this stuff, but we have to be careful about it. If a woman says she wasn’t raped. we should take that at face value.
Hopefully that’s all it is. :(
Ella in New Mexico
OMG who coached him on the “almost in tears” presentation? John Bannon?
raven
@janesays: I think there will blood in the streets up to our ankles if he is removed.
Gin & Tonic
@Mary G:
Late to the thread, but both my PCP and the pharmacist who shares a bed with me recommended it in strong terms. Unfortunately it can have unpleasant side effects, and, in my case, did.
Gin & Tonic
@debbie: Dekes were assholes back when I went to college in the Pleistocene. I see not much has changed.
raven
@Gin & Tonic: It hurt like a mofo and I was punky for a day or so.
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: Like I said upthread, I believe his virgin story. I am more or less his age. No girl that I knew in college would have fucked him, He was a douche with a giant forehead. He had no chance.
debbie
@janesays:
Quicker just to vote him out.
WaterGirl
@MisterForkbeard: thanks. What a pig K. is.
Gin & Tonic
@Immanentize: I tried to raise my boy right, Lord knows I tried, but he turned out a Celtics fan anyway. Parenting is hard and often unsuccessful.
Gin & Tonic
@raven: I had almost a 101 fever.
raven
@Gin & Tonic: Dang!
Ella in New Mexico
@lamh36: Have you considered Nurse-patient ratios and their effect on patient care? Specifically the cost-benefit analysis of having enough RN’s (and patient care technicians, aka CNA’s) to make sure patients are seen, assessed, and paid attention to in the hospital vs. “8-1 ratios and total care so let’s roll the dice this shift and hope no one falls in the hallway and has a huge subdural hematoma cuz they lost their way to the bathroom”?
It’s a really current issue in hospital-based care right now.
raven
@Gin & Tonic: Like this?
debbie
@Gin & Tonic:
@Omnes Omnibus:
I don’t keep up with fraternities, but others have been permanently closed for less offensive behavior.
raven
@Immanentize: Russel is my hero. When they asked him if all those MVP’s wer his greatest thrill he said “No, my daughter graduating from Harvard was”!
Anne Laurie
New post up top, in case anyone needs it…
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: I didn’t actually mention fraternities in the comment you replied to.
Jay
@janesays:
The model is that with the Democratic Party holding the House and Senate, and all the Chairs, every Committee starts holding hearings on every Trumpist and Enabler.
So it’s all corruption, looting, Russians, moneylaundering, pay for play, mismanagement, sexual assault, harassment, all the time.
Hundred’s of ReThugs and Trumpers join the cast of Orange Is The New Black Reality TV Edition.
As the tumbrels start to stage up outside the House, Senate, Government offices, ReThug math say’s Kill Ceasar, try to Save Pence, and hope that’s enough to return to the “old ways”.
Elizabelle
@raven: But maybe there will not be.
Don’t most of the Trumpsters turn out to be cowards too?
janesays
@Martin: 67 to remove.
Another Scott
@janesays: Verdict from 2017:
Donnie is a hot-head who hates to lose. That doesn’t usually lead to extended longevity.
Mark Bowden from 2015:
Donnie can’t buy-off the Democrats in Congress or the judges or prosecutors.
He’s going to have lots and lots of heartburn next year…
If we do all our part and show up and VOTE in November. 42 days to go!!
Cheers,
Scott.
Jay
@Elizabelle:
They only people they hate more than us, is them.
The Nazi’s, Militia’s, Deplorables, Gullibillies, Ammosexual’s and others are much more likely to attack each other, and the ReThug Establishment, if The Insane Clown POSus is taken down,
Than us.
janesays
@MagdaInBlack: Poe’s Law lives on.
Grassley didn’t actually say that – it’s from Andy Borowitz, the in-house satirist at The Atlantic.
But isn’t it disturbing that a reasonable person could believe that Grassley would actually say that?
Bill Arnold
@Steve in the ATL:
Remember Kavanaugh’s work against Bill Clinton. I am wondering about his lawyerly views on the definition of virginity.
(Haven’t finished the thread so maybe this has been said.)
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
We’re both referring to lousy behavior, though.
sukabi
@schrodingers_cat: we’re not. He’s a proven liar. That alone should have disqualified him.
Mandalay
@Another Scott:
Heh: “…at least somewhat…“. So mealymouthed.
Trump is obviously obese, never exercises, lives on junk food, is perpetually angry, and the only person on earth who truly loves him is Devin Nunes. Not a good recipe for a long life.
Another Scott
@Mandalay: I took that as snark. Similarly the crack that he has little chance of losing his health insurance…
YMMV.
Cheers,
Scott.
Omnes Omnibus
If you say so.
opiejeanne
@raven: I remember the Laguna greeter, usually standing on the corner at the place called The Pottery Barn (pretty sure that was the name), and then in the 70s he was gone. And soon there was a life-size statue made of fired pottery depicting him waving at traffic. That was when we knew he had died.
Mandalay
@janesays:
Unlikely yes, but distinctly possible in a couple of scenarios:
– If Trump is obviously guilty of a very serious crime such as (say) getting brown envelopes from Russia in return for enacting policies they requested.
– Trump’s approval drops to the level where it is counterproductive for Republicans in the Senate to support him. Melania going rogue or new bombshell videos could easily trigger that.
janesays
@Elizabelle: I really hope it works out that way, but I’ve got a gut feeling that the Senatortoise will just fast-track a new nominee through during the lame duck while he still has his majority.
Elizabelle
@janesays: That would not be will of the voters. Massive protests. Can’t let that happen.
Elizabelle
@janesays: You know, there is enough shit going on every single day, I don’t know why people are going shopping for more stuff to worry about and be depressed over.
Some lunatic named Noah Brand has showed up on the next thread.
Jay
@janesays:
The Angry Turtle might try, but then, Special K was supposed to be a cakewalk, and now he’s not.
And it’s looking more and more like the only nominee Yurtle could rush through is Merrek Garland.
satby
@Immanentize: back atcha ?
chopper
@Another Scott:
On the other hand, Trump is at least somewhat overweight
you don’t say? that sounds like saying the pope is at least somewhat catholic.
Gretchen
@lamh36: what’s the assignment? I am also a lab tech, retired.
Mary Ellen Sandahl
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Last week sometime a woman who was a contemporary of Dr. Blasey Ford (or near-contemporary) at one of the other schools in the Georgetown area posted IIRC a FB post in which she said she knew some of the Georgetown Prep boys and their partying habits. She said in her opinion they were gauche and inexperienced in dealing with girls, unable to view or treat them as friends, and had a group mentality that reinforced bad attitudes. One on one they could be pleasant and charming, but in a groiup, she said, they were like wolves.
She took her statement down the same day she put it up, because journalists started contacted her, and she wanted no part of that.