She hasn’t actually uttered the word “yes” yet, but her rambling soliloquy is leading inevitably to that conclusion. She’s going through all the arguments against Kavanaugh and dismissing them.
Shocked, gambling, etc. Fuckity fuck.
ETA: After blabbering on interminably, Collins made it official at 3:50, saying she hoped Kavanaugh would lessen the division on the court and restore public faith in it. What a fucking joke.
Baud
She’ll be there all night.
Fair Economist
This means the Republicans are exposed for what they are -irredeemably evil. The only choice is to take at least the House this year, the trifecta in 2020, and fix this.
Which we can. Actually, horrible as Kavanaugh is, this will make it easier.
Elizabelle
A trip to Maine just appeared on my schedule. 2020. Actually, whatever her decision. Too much fan dancing.
condorcet runner-up
scorpions and frogs and all that …
Nashville_fan
Wow . . . I am pretty sure she should have just voted yes this morning.
Damn.
Gotta love the “I asked him and he said . . . ” angle. Well that settles it then.
I don’t ever wanna hear anyone say that don’t know what white privilege is again.
White privilege is hearing what you wanna hear and believing what you wanna believe.
No matter what the facts say.
Every freaking time.
Jerzy Russian
Christ, what an asshole!
trollhattan
Out of idle curiosity, is LePage on his way out?
God, Maine is weird.
chopper
looks like the ‘we’re fucked’ crew was right.
Nashville_fan
@chopper: They always are . . . ugh.
Baud
@trollhattan: Term limited. Governors election is this year.
debbie
Her voice isn’t conducive to genuine emotion.
scottinnj
USA 7/4/1776-10/5/2018. It was a good run.
Len
We all know how she is planning to vote. Why is she still talking?
trollhattan
@Baud:
Best Maine election evah would be Rock v. Lobster. Let’s make this happen!
Nashville_fan
@Len: Seems like she is running for president . . . of course at this point, everyone is.
bemused
How long has she been blathering anyway? Feels like an hour.
Waldo
“… in conclusion, I believe Judge Kavanaugh is just the kind of rapey rageaholic our highest court needs.”
SFAW
@chopper:
You are SUCH a defeatist! You should be banned from BJ, because that statement means you will NEVER do anything other than wallow in your self-pity.
Did I get the tone about right?
TenguPhule
TenguPhule
Straight from CNN.
SenyorDave
Don’t worry, he’ll protect Roe v Wade. Maybe she’s right to disregard his whole history since he is a lying sack of crap about everything else. When is Collins up for re-election? I’ll donate some bucks to her opponent so Collins can move on to a gig at Fox or whatever else she wants to do, so long as it is not US Senator.
lee
At least now the solution to this is a smidge simpler.
Just reduce the number on SCOTUS by 2 and use ‘last in first out’ as the criteria for who leaves.
schrodingers_cat
@Len: Because she is a nautanki* who loves theater.
*folk theater performer.
Aleta
She is going out of her way to reframe and lie as a corrupted shill for the administration.
schrodingers_cat
@SenyorDave: 2020.
debbie
she is out of her fucking mind. “Nobody called to ask where she went.” At age 15????
TenguPhule
So its official, eeyore accusations are banned for the rest of 2018 here at BJ.
Baud
@TenguPhule: I wish.
Aziz, light!
The medical community is stumped. How does Collins survive with a spinal column made of overcooked spaghetti?
bemused
I’ve got a headache and feel like vomiting. Make her stop.
TenguPhule
@Aziz, light!:
There’s an invertabrate inside the human suit.
rikyrah
No matter what it takes…that woman has to be defeated in 2020.
Sawgrass Stan
exactly who is surprised? Repub moderates always cave, especially Collins.
low-tech cyclist
How’s she addressing the “he lies pretty much whenever it suits him” argument? (WAG: she’s ignoring this one, right?)
I can’t stand listening to her.
scottinnj
Susan Collins voting for Kavanaugh is the perfect snapshot of white women bringing Trump and his administration over the finish line.
SFAW
@Aziz, light!:
You’re assuming she ever REALLY considered doing anything other than voting the party line. Bad assumption.
Leto
Jesus, Collins saying Dr Ford was wrong and it wasn’t Kavanope. Ffs. GET OFF THE PODIUM!
hueyplong
Not sure, short of raising a fist to his female Democratic questioner, Kavanaugh could have more clearly demonstrated his unfitness for this lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court.
Never, ever, let any Republican tell you that Trump is an aberration. He is their leader and they follow him in lockstep. He is the Republican Party and they are all his willing thralls.
M31
what a fucking disgusting rancid piece of shit
Death Panel Truck
I don’t know why anyone is surprised by this. She was a lost cause the moment she announced she’d bought Kavanaugh’s bullshit that he wouldn’t vote to overturn Roe. She’s a fucking moron and a traitor to her gender.
It’s over. Kavanaugh’s on the court.
Mnemosyne
@Nashville_fan:
She’s never gonna be president now…
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
rikyrah
First conviction of a Chicago police officer in 50 years. Unreal. https://t.co/F4z3jzJjZv
— Matthew A. Cherry (@MatthewACherry) October 5, 2018
eric
She is rich, white, and no longer has use for her uterus. Poor woman everywhere….you are on your own. Abused woman? sorry, it would not be right to hurt a man just for a little sexual assault among friends.
In large part, this die was cast November 2016, though, conservative revanchists gave it there all here to break every progressive social norm over the last 50 years.
guachi
She’s making him out to be some super liberal justice. If he really were no Republican would have ever voted for him.
Waldo
Now I wish the suspense had indeed killed me.
kindness
WTF is wrong with the people of Maine. They got this same stuff from Olympia Snowe. Now they do it again? Damn. I am disappointed in the voters.
Ian R
@rikyrah: The fund for whoever runs against her in 2020 went up over $100k so far during her shitty little collaborator speech.
Roger Moore
@Len:
She’s trying to justify her vote so she won’t get creamed in the next election.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@SFAW:
The point still stands. This is just one battle and as awful as it will be the war never ends. The battle for freedom and equality has been going on since time immemorial, long before any person alive today was born.
It took hundreds of years for POC under European slavery and imperialism to gain any semblance of rights. But it did happen eventually. The bad guys can win but they also lose and in this case, there’s more of us than there are of them. They will eventually fall and we will have to ensure that good, honest people will be there to take their place to rebuild.
This November is when that rebuilding process begins.
psycholinguist
The thing she said that pisses me off most:
“i believe something happened to Ford (but it wasn’t Kavenaugh)” What a weasel fucking proposition. It refuses to deal with Ford saying she is 100% SURE it was that fuckhead. So no, you don’t believe Ford. At least own it, but you know, whatever gonna let you sleep at night I guess.
Mike in DC
How much do we need to saturate the airwaves and do 100% GOTV for Maine? Because that’s how much I want to see committed before we even have a declared candidate.
James E Powell
I don’t think there was ever any doubt about Collins. Flake, Manchin, and Murkowski could have ended this, but did not. They each have reasons, but the central fact is that they are fine with this piece of shit on the Supreme Court.
mad citizen
Glad I’m not watching it. I kept refreshing cnn.com to see her answer and was perplexed why it didn’t appear. Now I know why. Christ, what a windbag!
eric
I suppose Merrick Garland dodges the bullet of having to launch a fitness examination for Kavanaugh to stay on the DC Court.
bemused
Even if there had been home movies of Kav shaking his wienie in front of a girl’s face, the R’s wouldn’t have even blinked.
debbie
If Collins doesn’t condemn Trump’s mocking of Blasey Ford at his Mississippi rally, then she’s no better than the worse MAGAt.
banditqueen
@SFAW: Not to mention Daniel Dale:
germy
TenguPhule
And so the rule of law dies not with a bang, but with a long rambling speech by Susan Collins that bored it to death.
sdhays
Well, she just decided she would rather be a Republican than a US Senator. Collins is the Republican Senator least vulnerable to a primary challenge, because her state prefers to vote for independents. If she loses a primary, she can still easily win in the general.
But now she’s flushed her independence down the toilet. She may not have to worry about her primary, but she shouldn’t have been anyway. She will never be as vulnerable as she will be in 2020. I hope the Maine Democratic Party can step up.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
This is just the cloture vote. The actual vote is tomorrow. Are you advising us to give up before that happens?
Aleta
Ford testified that others at the party were not aware of what happened, that she never told them, that she left w/o speaking to anyone. Yet Collins says ‘but no one offered her ride home or called the next day to ask if she was OK.’ as though that counts as “no corroboration.” WTF
Completely skirts the perjury and lies, ignoring the opinions of lawyers and others.
Completely skirts the statements of lawyers and Stevens and former supporters that his temperament makes him unfit.
This will follow her for the rest of her life.
Baud
@James E Powell: Never any real doubt about Flake.
debbie
@James E Powell:
When did Murkowski become a yes?
Theron Ware
They always fall in line – sigh.
eric
@banditqueen: who, after all, is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life……
TenguPhule
My Gods, the brass testicles she’s borrowing.
bemused
@sdhays:
She decided she would rather be a miserable excuse for a human being.
TenguPhule
@James E Powell: Murkowski is a No.
MisterForkbeard
@TenguPhule: I’m kind of impressed that Collins herself is lying about debunking in her speech about debunking.
I thought she would vote yes. I did t think she would be this self-righteously soulless about it.
MomSense
@&$”’!?()/;:%*€€€|>%{%>$&/&):!’ and &$)([email protected]@@!((!/*€>€£€|! you, Susan.
jl
@Death Panel Truck: She’s a fucking moron and a traitor to democracy. A coward, A liar. A fraud.
Has she explained yet why Kavanaugh lying during his confirmation hearing, past and present, is OK?
As I said in previous thread, I am contacting her office, this time telling them that I am going GOTV Javert on her corrupt racket and will make contributions to ensure she never holds another public office, ever.
Her statements about being all offended that lesser people would have the impudence to question the decisions our ruling oligarchs make, is a threat to democratic government, and a complete disgrace. Her statement is pathetic, patently dishonest and contemptible in every way. Dishonest and made in complete bad faith. Vile
The GOP is simply a tool of ruthless Trumpism now, and it’s just a matter of how politely they act and talk about it.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
Collins is telling us her vote tomorrow right now.
Aleta
Can Senators be impeached/recalled?
donnah
Collins is disgusting. She’s a disgrace to human beings. And I want to know what McConnell promised her.
I hope she remembers and regrets this day for the rest of her wretched life.
Baud
@MisterForkbeard: In for a penny, in for a pound.
mali muso
I went to donate to the opponent fund and it looks like the site may have crashed…
Mnemosyne
@Roger Moore:
She still thinks she’s going to win her next election? Wow, she really IS even dumber than I thought.
psycholinguist
@Ian R: Looks like it just crashed – I got in and when I refreshed to see the total after my contribution it crashed
Baud
@Aleta: No.
jl
Will be fun to compare and contrast how worms like Flake and Collins excuse their filth, if Flake votes as I expect him to.
trollhattan
@bemused:
I believe you’re right. Once he yelled at Democrats to their faces he was Their Boy no matter what. The Clinton shoutout was just dessert.
Brett and Donny may now walk out on 5th Ave together and shoot somebody–a twofer.
Cacti
Did anyone honestly expect it to be otherwise?
Collins’ “moderate” reputation comes from the fact that she furrows her brow once or twice before voting with the troglodytes.
James E Powell
This is true and saying it may make you feel better. But reading it does nothing for me at all. People have been harmed, are being harmed, and more will be harmed in the future because of this RW revanche. Knowing that this, too, shall pass does nothing for me.
Baud
@jl: Didn’t he announce?
Tenar Arha
@psycholinguist: yup, just tried the Crowdpac home URL & it won’t load.
chopper
i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again – democracy simply doesn’t work.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I keep muting and unmuting– is she getting any closer to a fucking point ?
stan
OK time to plan an 11-member SCOTUS right away…..
SFAW
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
WTF are you on about? You sure you’re responding to the correct commenter?
Just because someone says “WE’RE FUCKED!”, it does not mean that person has, or will, quit doing what he/she can to get rid of Rethugs. There seems to be a vein here or persons who equate “WE’RE FUCKED!” with “I QUIT!” I am not one of those persons. And if I say “It just got a lot harder,” it doesn’t mean I’ve given up.
Aim your whatever-lesson-you-thought-you-were-imparting somewhere else.
TenguPhule
@Roger Moore:
She’s going to run for governor of Maine. And presumably for president in 2024.
bemused
@trollhattan:
There is no bottom to their putrid perfidy.
jl
@Baud: I don’t know. Been occupied and distracted listening to Collins’ sad mess,
Ian R
Aaand the CrowdPac anti-Collins fundraiser page has crashed from the amount of people donating during her speech.
Leto
@bemused: Are you sure that’s his penis? Are you sure there’s not a look-a-like penis? A doppelpenis? It was such a young penis. You shouldn’t destroy this penises career over such a little thing! /vomit
cain
If we don’t get congress, it will be a shit show next year when every conservative pony on womens rights and everything else will be trotted out for their supreme court. Roe vs Wade all of it is going to hit the dumpster. What the flying fuck…
Aleta
quoted as from senate.com
Brachiator
@TenguPhule:
Hmmm. Is this a reference to Judge Bork?
eemom
Is there still a possibility he won’t be confirmed, or not?
If Manchin votes no and that other guy doesn’t show up?
Quinerly
@Mnemosyne: Cloture already happened. This is Collins speech on why she is voting yes for Kavanaugh.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
Yes, and … ? Murkowski is still a no. Manchin and Flake can still be pressured.
You can curl up into a whimpering ball if you want to give up before the final vote is even taken. I’m not planning to.
TenguPhule
45 minutes in and Collins still hasn’t gotten to the point yet.
She truly is channeling her inner Trump here.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
Flake is already a confirmed Yes.
Manchin is stupid as fuck.
hueyplong
@trollhattan: Brett kind of just did it. “Look what I did and I got confirmed anyway.”
Prepare for some even keeling.
Not sure why Collins wants to go on the record confidently giving a description of a Kavanaugh tenure that will be the laughingstock of history. But, as I’ve often admitted, I don’t understand Republican thinking.
JanieM
@SenyorDave: When this particular moment has passed google “crowdpac Collins.” There has been a fund up for several weeks collecting $ that will be donated to her opponent in 2020 if she votes yes on Kavanaugh. I can’t get to the site right now to give you a link — I’m assuming it has been newly flooded with contributors/pledges. It was above $1.5 million last time I looked (maybe a week ago?) toward a goal of $2 million. I suspect the collective anti-Collins “we” will blow past that in short order, if it hasn’t already happened. Many people are making pledges of $20.20 to highlight when her term is up, but I’m going to give a bunch more than that.
patrick II
@Jerzy Russian:
I told my wife I am using the term “asshole” too often for polite speeech and shows lack of imagination, so I have looked up synonyms. None seem as apt.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
Any asshole can run for office. She ain’t going to win anything higher than dogcatcher, ever again.
TenguPhule
@Brachiator:
I assume so. Apparently she was hiding a long grudge about that really well.
cain
@Ian R:
It’s time to end her political career. She should be shamed wherever she goes. Persona non-grata. She should pay a price for this.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
that idiot thinks she just gave an historic speech that will be remembered admiringly for a generation, doesn’t she?
MomSense
@Mike in DC:
We need help now with the election for Governor. Four people in the race. Attorney General Janet Mills is exactly the person you would want want to govern your state but she is up against a real slicker of a Republican Moody. For some fucked up reason Mills is under fire from a Native American group because Maine joined a suit regarding water rights and BLM decided to join in opposition. The only other viable candidate is Moody and he is a total asshole on civil rights, education, environment, health care etc.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
All past evidence shows a majority of Maine’s voters are idiots.
Nashville_fan
@Mnemosyne: That’s one less thing to worry about . . . oy vey.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: She’s lost her mind. Assuming she ever had one.
Mnemosyne
@Quinerly:
Yes, I realize that. There is now a 30-hour cooling-off period before the final vote, which happens tomorrow.
JanieM
Even worse, she had the gall a few weeks ago to call the fund a “bribe.” As if our political system isn’t utterly drowning in money from billionnaires. No, us ordinary people giving $20.20 at a time, that’s unacceptable.
I’m from Maine. I’m so incandescent at this point.I wish I could run against her myself.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@TenguPhule:
Christ, “presumption of innocence”. He didn’t have that because he wasn’t on trial. He’s being considered for a lifetime appointment to the USSC, a privilege few people get to enjoy that has tremendous implications on hundreds of millions of lives. There are completely different standards between confirmation hearings and criminal trials, Susan. This is for a reason. You didn’t interview anybody else who accused the asshole or their witnesses because you didn’t want to. There was a pattern here and yet you claim that #MeToo is so needed in the same breath?
This has been a sham process from the start and I hope that history judges you harshly for this cowardly and self-serving act. You could have voted “no” and survived just fine in 2020 if you ran again or ran for Main Governor.
MomSense
@TenguPhule:
She is not running for Governor. We are 30 days from electing a new Governor.
banditqueen
@TenguPhule: She was laying it on really thick toward the end. Does she have something hidden that might come before the SC? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
jl
From Collins’ disgusting statement, we can infer that lying for political advantage is not a problem with her. So Kavanaugh’s clear lying and perjury wouldn’t bother her at all. We can divine some truths through her disgusting babbling.
Elizabelle
What a douche. K-stink on Susie Collins. Independent decision— no.
donnah
Manchin confirms his Yes on NBC
Jim, Foolish Literalist
fuck him, but save your rage for Rs snd your money for Dem candidates up this year
TenguPhule
@eemom:
McConnell is going to hold the vote open for the missing R senator to come back from the wedding.
Assuming everyone shows up on time tomorrow, this is it.
Aleta
@TenguPhule: I doubt she will run for anything again. She’ll rely on the political consulting group her husband formed (though he now works in her office) or corporate spoils, or hope for an appointment if Rs win in 2020.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
Do you have a time machine, or do you rely on a crystal ball to predict future events?
Again: you can cower if you want. I’m not planning to.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@TenguPhule:
Everything is impossible until it’s not
TenguPhule
@donnah:
Fuck him. With a Rusty chainsaw.
Aleta
Manchen reported to say he’s a yes.
trollhattan
@jl:
OTOH Dr. Ford’s testimony and her “four witnesses” were not credible and Dr. Ford needs to Go Away, stat.
Kavanaugh may be the real victim but Dr. Ford has sacrificed any chance for a normal life for the rest of us. I’m sick.
OGLiberal
@TenguPhule: My guess is she’d win re-election or governor no matter what way she voted. This “yea” isn’t about Maine. Not sure what it’s about….
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Good fuck, MSNBC, no one wants to hear from Jon Meecham, much less on the same panel as fucking tweety
M31
every Republican voter needs to burn in hell forever, starting now
Baud
@donnah: He was always going to follow Collins.
Cacti
Is this a bad time to point out that Justice Kavanaugh would never have been possible without Bernie?
TenguPhule
Forty five minutes just to say ” Yes, I am a fucking disgrace to political whores everywhere.”
jl
@banditqueen: I’ve ridiculed some commenters’ statements that the whole national level GOP is seriously criminally compromised in some way. But from the behavior I’ve seen from these people, even Murkowski’s behavior during her no vote as described in news reports, my skepticism is cracking.
I have to wonder how many are guilty of something, and how many are scared to death because they know and have done nothing.
Baud
@Cacti: Save it for the upcoming primary.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Cacti: Nope.
Susan Sarandon ought to sell her villa in Tuscany and donate the proceeds to the DCCC
Doug R
@scottinnj:
With a pause April 12, 1861 – May 9, 1865
lurker dean
fucking infuriating. it’s now perfectly clear that trump can do whatever the fuck he wants, including fucking with FBI investigations, and the GOP won’t stand up to him. a nominee can lie to congress every which way, but it’s okay. so fucking infuriating.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
Bad dreams that seem to inevitably come true.
chopper
@psycholinguist:
well then who the fuck did it, susan? i mean, ford was fucking there.
bemused
@trollhattan:
And most Republican senators are pretty wealthy so they can afford security costs a lot easier than the Ford family. Everything about this is FUBAR.
lamh36
Manchin is a YES.
TenguPhule
Once again, Fuck Manchin.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Jesus, that speech was such horseshit even Parson Meecham could smell it, “she turned him into John Paul Stevens”. I’m sure he’ll get back to blaming this all on the Clenis
D58826
Dino is a yes
RenoRick
I wish I was surprised.
JPL
@eemom: not gonna happen.
Paul W.
OK, Cole was right. Now can we please get back to trying to win these midterms?
The only, and it is still a horrible outcome that will devastate the lives of millions, upside is that Kavanaugh is SO horrible of a pick that it will be easier to add seats to the court if we can get the Senate/House/Presidency in 2020. Literally the first thing that should happen IMO.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
Time to get back on the phones. And the fax machines.
Thirty hour countdown has begun.
MazeDancer
@rikyrah:
She’s never going to run for anything again.
She just torched her legacy.
The Ady Barkan give money to Collins’ opponent crashed as people poured contributions into it.
Gin & Tonic
@lamh36: If I count right, Manchin makes 50 and puts the rapist over the top. Nice work, Joe.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
I’d like that apology now. K thx.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@SFAW:
I guess I’m venting a little myself. It does get tiring when 6 people comment the same negative thing every day or so. I’m glad that you’re not giving up but “we’re fucked” does give kind of imply “all hope is lost”.
Cacti
@lamh36:
Calculated cowardice.
I expected as much.
Now I’m certain he and Murkowski agreed to a vote swap.
piratedan
@cain: she deserves the same amount of derision as every other Republican, we’re only massively butthurt because the GOP Lucy continues to place the football down invitingly at our insistence. This is who she is. IMHO, it makes her just as culpable as a our erstwhile Senators Flake, Kyl, Tillis, Cornym, Inhofe,. Fischer, Gardner et al… ad nauseum.
The only rights and privileges that they recognize are their own, everyone else is either fungible or fodder.
D58826
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Maybe just move there permanently.
geg6
That’s it for me. I’m done. This country isn’t worth fighting for any more. Fuck this fucking place. I have to figure out what to do and where to go. I can’t live here. I just can’t. This has been too much over the last couple of years and the last few weeks have just about done me in. This is the last straw. I just can’t.
Aleta
banditqueen
@SFAW: This is now a much harder fight, which means a lot more people are going to be hurt no matter how hard we continue to fight. It should be OK to recognize how powerful, evil, and ruthless republicans are. As you said, “Fuck this”–but our side did take a hit, hence the fight is now much harder.
Oh, Manchin will vote yes.
OGLiberal
Dems take Senate, 51-49. Manchin wins, switches parties, get sweet committee chair from Mitch.
jl
Federal judges and a SCOTUS justice were impeached for Kavanaugh style crap. In 1804 and 1805. We need to elect Democrats willing to do their duty, just as politicians during the Founders and Framers era were willing to do. Otherwise we’ll lose our democracy.
I believe Trump nominated Kavanaugh because he believes, and I am beginning to think a corrupt deal, to protect him from any sanctions for his lawlessness, both during and after his term.
TenguPhule
@Gin & Tonic:
I suspect the plan is he votes last, waits for the Montana senator to return and makes it 51. “Don’t blame me, Pence would have broken a tie anyway, amirite?”
M31
If Manchin votes No then it’s a tie yes? Broken by Pence?
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@chopper:
“Mark Judge! Lock him up, lock him up, lock him up!”
geg6
@scottinnj:
Yep. It’s over.
JanieM
@MomSense: What Momsense said.
I am beside myself.
JCW
I believe we no longer live in a democracy. Maybe the November elections will change my mind. But I think the democracy we were raised to be proud of no longer exists. The GOP has been chipping away at it for decades. I don’t think there’s any turning back from what has been done.
hilts
There needs to be a special place in Hell reserved for Susan Collins, Jeff Flake, and Joe Manchin. Fuck all of them and, lest I forget, fuck those goddamn motherfucking NY Yankees.
SFAW
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Yes, that seems to be the bullshit that a number of commenters have been pushing for awhile. Sorry you’ve decided to believe that shit.
eemom
Oh stop this petty sniping over “we’re fucked” or not.
We ARE fucked, even if we win back Congress, because that won’t fix this.
Acknowledging that reality is not the same thing as giving up.
Anyway it’s a stupid as shit argument to be having at this horrible moment.
TenguPhule
@jl:
We’ll know for sure Nov 7.
Mike in NC
@scottinnj: Precisely.
TenguPhule
@M31:
Yes.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@TenguPhule:
And the response to that is that it doesn’t matter. This was a question of inner moral fortitude and convictions. You should have voted no Manchin. History will not remember you fondly
Kay
Now we can go back to ignoring her until the next time she pretends to be persuadable, right?
He’ll go after voting rights, Kavanaugh. He told us all he hates “the Left” which means anyone to the Left of him, so a couple of hundred million people. He vowed to punish us for slowing his assent to his rightful throne.
So, vote. Use it or lose it. That’s all we got left. It’ll be hard to dislodge them now but it will be near-impossible later. They’ll make sure of that.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@eemom:
Why don’t you directly address those you’re criticizing?
Winning Congress won’t fix it completely, but it will be a great first step, in addition to winning governorships and state legs.
jl
@eemom: A strong non-corrupt Congress, House and Senate can fix a lot. We need to work for that starting this November.
Chetan Murthy
per TPM: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/manchin-will-vote-yes-on-kavanaugh
Manchin’s a yes. I sure hope he knows what he’s doing, and that he’s not planning to defect to the GrOPers. This is a heavy price, and he better be certain we must pay it to regain the Senate.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
Dude, if I’m going to fight the fucking Republicans to my last breath, what the fuck do you think I’m going to say to you?
Here, I won’t keep you in suspense: go fuck yourself, surrender monkey. Always remember that you were a coward who decided to run away during the last hours of the fight.
lamh36
@lamh36: Manchin knows how to win in WV Kl told…so I’ll just assume that this is what WV overwhelmingly wanted…because of it wasn’t Manchin shouldn’t be a YES….right.
And like I said last night, There will be no consequence to his voting Yes. So why would he?
TenguPhule
@Kay:
No. Now I hope she gets to run from angry protesters for the rest of her life.
germy
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne: So you’re going to double down on being wrong?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
as I said below, the only surprise is that she got down in the muck casting doubt on Christine Ford, and I suspect she’s going to reap the whirlwind and has no fucking idea what she’s done today
banditqueen
@eemom: @geg6: Yes, it is over–much “bipartisan” now: Manchin is a yes.
eemom
@jl:
They cannot fix a corrupt Supreme Court majority.
mali muso
FYI, there is an ActBlue for Collins’ opponent that looks like it just went live. Since the CrowdPAC one is overwhelmed at the moment.
Kay
Does anyone ever ask Collins why she does this? Why she gins up all this drama? Who benefits from this stupid game? I’m not even sure she does. All it does is remind her constituents that she’s a phony “moderate” and she’s been cynically using her pro-choice voters for her entire career.
Can’t she just skip it? It’s depressing.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
Sorry, did I stutter?
Go run away and hide, coward. If you don’t have the balls to fight, step aside and let women do the job you’re too chicken to do.
D58826
Only thing on TV that I think I can stand watching right now is Andy Griffin reruns.
Rommie
It’s not even that she is a yes vote. It’s that her speech was broiler-plate GOP talking points that Lindsey Graham could have given word-for-word. She’s a front to give cover – see, even a “moderate” female conservative senator is saying all these things, so it’s OK to believe us, ladies!
If there is really a hail-mary bomb to derail this nomination out there, that time is now.
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: GOPers, on a national level are acting like seriously compromised people, under threat or jeopardy of something. All of them. I used to scoff at that kind of talk, but not now. Why did Collins think it was necessary to say just vile and absurd things at such length? Almost like someone told her what to say, or else…
lamh36
Joe Manchin is a POS…but hey..he’s the best you can do in WV so it’s cool..
James E Powell
I suspect she doesn’t care and never did.
Cacti
If liberals had any intestinal fortitude, here’s what would happen after Kavanaugh got confirmed:
Ginsburg, Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor would announce that they would not share a bench with a sexual predator and refuse to come to SCOTUS.
The quorum requirement for SCOTUS is 6 Justices and the felonious 5 couldn’t hear or decide any cases without them.
But they won’t, because that would be impolite, and our team prefers losing graciously while the other team violates every norm of civility and wins.
D58826
@eemom: Congress and POTUS can increase the number of seats on SCOTUS buit that requires a change to both branches
Ohio Mom
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: I think you are right to look to the future. It’s the only thing we can do, really.
The simple truth is that our country is in thrall to Russian oligarchs. Maybe it is some sort of karma for all the times we did the same to our neighbors in Central and South America. Not a pretty thought, I know, considering what turmoil and hardship those countries have endured. I hope we can prevail without that level of upheaval.
Ivan X
@donnah: I always assume it’s threats, rather than promises. Like very serious, bodily and/or financial threats to family members. It’s the only way I understand his ability to get them all in line, every time.
geg6
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
I am in the all hope is lost category. This is the end, my friend.
jl
@eemom: Yes they can. They just need to have the courage to go there, like they used to have, all the way back to 1804 and 1805.
Kavanaugh committed repeated perjury during this and previous hearings. He should be impeached, tried, convicted and removed from office. Period.
Kay
Well, hopefully it will energize Democrats. Kavanaugh can punish “the Left” in his courtroom by denying several hundred millions of us a fair hearing but until he attacks voting rights he can’t reach the election process itself. So there’s a window here. Closing, but still a window.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne: Your problem is that when you’re wrong, you refuse to admit you’re wrong and double down on the personal insults. Also, you should probably pay more attention to what people are actually writing then the voices in your head telling you what those voices actually mean even if that’s not what’s actually there.
Hungry Joe
Saying that Collins lacks a spine gives her way too much credit. She didn’t back down. She didn’t fold. No, she voted exactly the way she wanted to vote.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@lamh36:
You never know. He might have an “accident” and fall out a high window. A guy can dream
chopper
so unless somebody wants to fly to DC and literally throw themselves at flake or collins tomorrow in an attempt to stop them from voting, i guess this is it. doubt any of these fuckers are going to care about the breakdown of calls their offices get in the next 24 hours.
Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot
@SFAW:
Yes. Yes, you did. Elizabelle, Mnemosyne, LAC, etc., would be so proud!
LAC
@SFAW: you got that tone right. There are some posters on this site that if we had to rely on them for help back in the day, we would still be drinking out of separate water fountains. ITS TOO HARD! I GIVE UP! BOTH SIDES! WASH…RINSE…REPEAT!
TenguPhule
@lamh36:
I suspect he’s now in serious danger of losing his senate seat.
WV Democrats are going to have to swallow a huge shit sandwich without mustard to pull that lever for him now.
James E Powell
@debbie:
@TenguPhule:
I should have been more precise. I meant Flake, Manchin, and Murkowski acting together could have put an end to this.
I’m pretty sure that the RWers would hate them forever, but they probably already do. The Village Courtiers would have declared them the Greatest Americans.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@James E Powell: she cares. I’ve always thought Susan Collins stumbled into the Senate on Bill Cohen’s coattails and stayed there by aping Olympia Snowe, and she’s as surprised as anyone else to see herself in that fancy office with a fancy title. As she proved today, there’s nothing she won’t do to cling to both. And she just may have fucked herself out of both today.
bemused
@Kay:
It’s a facade that fools no one but don’t most of the R’s do this in varying degrees? The republican rule book on how to look like a senator while lying through their teeth.
TenguPhule
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Timeout corner for you, young man.
James E Powell
@TenguPhule:
I thought he was going to lose no matter what he did on Kavanaugh.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mnemosyne:
Sorry, no, this is the real deal. Cloture vote was this morning. This was Collins stating her intention to vote Aye on the actual confirmation.
I guess in theory something could happen between now and tomorrow that might change her mind, but it is unlikely in the extreme.
TenguPhule
@Kay:
Could anyone sit through the 45 minute speech she’d make before answering the question?
bemused
@D58826:
I’m more fond of Matlock and beach novels when my brain is fried.
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: And I will fight beside you.
@Kay: It will. We fight and stop pretending that Rs mean anything but harm to the rest of us.
Aleta
Collins cares a lot about her image, has spent 30 years making collages of it for publication. Her public image is now burnt and trampled in mud by her fellow greed ghouls, and it will remain that way. With judgement becoming worse after every conservative vote of the SC. It won’t ever be forgotten. She’ll suffer some from loss of the applause and respect she loved, especially in Maine, though partly protected by her delusions. It will also be rough when Ivanka stops having time for her and Trump stops pretending to value her opinion.
MJS
@jl: You don’t need to go back that far. Abe Fortas resigned in 1969 once impeachment proceedings started.
jl
Goal should be to elect a Congress that has the guts to impeach, try, convict and remove a corrupt future Justice Kavanaugh for perjury at this and previous hearings. And take powers it has to strip a corrupt SCOTUS of ability to destroy Constitution. A good Congress can do a lot to fix this mess.
Whether it can happen soon or not is no matter, our goal should be to make it happen asap.
TenguPhule
@James E Powell:
Manchin was polling 20 points ahead of his opponent. Heitkamp was the one 10 points behind. And she’s voting no.
SiubhanDuinne
@James E Powell:
Murkowski has said she is voting No.
Mnemosyne
@Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot:
You can also go fuck yourself with your fucking Eeyore gloating. You’re not the one who’s getting fucked over, so it’s all fucking academic to you, isn’t it?
Take your gloating and shove it up your fucking ass. Maybe you’ll find TenguPhule up there when you look.
This was not a motherfucking game to some of us. This was our fucking LIVES. Monday morning quarterbacking this is NOT MOTHERFUCKING APPROPRIATE RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
jl
@MJS: Yes. Thanks. I want to go back as far as possible, to make clear that a good Congress can do a hell of a lot to fix things, and do at least a little something to stop lies being told about how our democracy works and what Founders and Framers intended and did.
TenguPhule
@James E Powell:
Well Flake and Manchin just gave their brand of approval to probably rapist on the SC.
So that’s not happening.
Kay
Democrats please don’t start fighting with one another. People deal with disappointment in all different ways and if some people want to wallow for a while and others want to rant and others want to remain stoic all of that is permissible.
Don’t fracture. Stick together. HOW you deal with this is much less important than the fact that you all opposed it and you all will fight it, in one way or another. We need one another.
chopper
@SiubhanDuinne:
i don’t know what it would be. i assume if someone out there had a serious bombshell of a story on the guy that hadn’t leaked yet, it would have come out by now.
MJS
@TenguPhule: And the rest of us have to hope that they hate the taste of shit sandwiches less than they hate the idea of continued Republican control of the Senate.
Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot
@TenguPhule: Forget it Jake, it’s Snowflake-town.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
We’re not the ones making strawman shit about our positions, you are. Double standards much? You want an apology from us when we’re wrong and you get it.
You on the other hand, when called out for being wrong, insist on distorting our positions and going full Kavanaugh on us.
Here’s a piece of advice, stop attacking people on the same side for stuff they didn’t do.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Jesus Christ, wait for the vote to happen. I mean keep in mind Obamacare which came down to the wire. This is all about internal angst among the Republicans and there is little anyone else can do besides egg them on to injure each other.
At the moment.
And you all need to take a step back and consider US history – Packing the SCOTUS with slaver symps who handed down Dreed Scott didn’t turn out like the conservatards behind it planned.. Like Aboloition, all these touchy freely equality laws are the result of serious social issues were the women, minorities, immigrants and homosexuals need to be vested participants in our society, some drunken useless frat boys wanting to LARP a Leave it Beaver episode won’t stop that.
Aleta
Crowdfunding site for Collins opponent went over 2 million as she spoke, and crashed. Early on I looked for but didn’t see information on use of the $ if she doesn’t run.
lamh36
If the irony of Joe Manchin possibly closer to winning re-election while Heitkamp and McCaskill possibly losing theirs after voting against Kavanaugh…doesn’t piss you off…
TenguPhule
@MJS:
Yep. And it sucks.
Hungry Joe
Anyone in the mood for a silver lining? Or at least, an it-could-have-been-worse comment? I’m going to give it a go:
Okay, say we’d won this one: The Kav got 86’d. The GOP base gets fired up, and their GOTV efforts pay off: The Blue Wave is reduced to a slightly higher than average Blue Tide. And within days Trump hawks up an equally execrable Kav II — probably that anti-abortion lunatic woman whose name I’m blanking on — that Mitch rams through (sic) even a lame-duck Senate … if in fact the GOP even loses the Senate, which would be more unlikely after Kav went down. So: although we didn’t dodge the bullet, at least it didn’t hit any vital organs.
How’d I do?
TenguPhule
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Yeah, we got a bloody Civil War.
Was this supposed to be reassuring?
LAC
@Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot: white privilege pie filter coming right up with a cup of asshole coffee. Toodles.
Ruckus
The pie filter is your friend.
You tired of the constant screaming about everything? Consign them to the bakery. Preserve what little is left of your sanity. We need each other to be strong so that we can have a chance going forward. We have just over 30 days to the most important election of our lives.
Good luck to all of us.
TenguPhule
@Hungry Joe:
I consider the liver a vital organ.
chopper
@Hungry Joe:
not bad. i was assuming that yertle would push through a replacement as quickly as he could if Boof went down.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot:
“Snowflake”?
Yeah, you’re a total asshole who’s bitter about how you perceive you’ve been treated here. Don’t use language that right-wing reactionaries employ.
JanieM
@Aleta: I can’t remember precisely, but either the money would have been returned if she voted no, or it’s already just in the form of a pledge until we know whether she votes yes or no on BK.
One way or another, if she had voted no, there would have been no fund.
ETA … to correct my own hasty typing.
lamh36
In answer to who wants to run against Susan Collins in Maine!!!
Amb. Susan Rice…ME!
https://twitter.com/ambassadorrice/status/1048305496732491777?s=21
Where do i send my money!!
Mike in DC
Can we not, with the personal attacks? I understand that people are hot right now, but circular firing squads don’t help.
Anyway, 5 options going forward, 4 of which would be considered escalatory:
1. Secure the replacement to RBG and Breyer and wait for a vacancy on the right.
2. Explore impeaching Kav
3. Pack the court
4. Circumscribe areas that SCOTUS can review
5. If a decision is egregiously bad, pull an Andrew Jackson and ignore it
1 is super passive.
2 is unlikely to succeed
3 will lead to the GOP responding in kind
4 and 5 are dangerous precedents to set
All in all, I think we should assume 1, and explore 2 and 3 when in power. The GOP is constantly escalating anyway.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
Goodbye. Pie filter now.
chopper
@Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot:
“snowflake”? seriously?
MJS
@Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot: “Snowflake town”? Are you by any chance wearing a white polo shirt and khaki pants right now? Do you have a tiki torch propped in the corner of your room? Seems like you should.
chopper
@lamh36:
susan rice can have all my money if she’s serious.
Aleta
Support for local rape crisis centers that depend on volunteers (who depend on their morale to help keep them in balance) would be a useful counter-act right now. Also for orgs that support immigrants and native people.
M31
If Manchin isn’t the deciding vote, I’m fine with him making whatever calculation he wants in order to win reelection. If he was the deciding vote that’s different, and I’m telling myself that he’d have done the right thing.
Every single Republican Senator? They are horrible shitstain monsters and pathetic excuses for sentient life. Not one of them is a decent human being, and they deserve to spend their lives in jail.
lamh36
@TenguPhule: No he won’t. Already heard from WV folks here. He’s the best they can get…so they’ll just hold their noses…
Tenar Arha
Any Attorney General races that need few bucks? Or should I just look for Holder’s organization of which name I cannot remember?
Also been thinking about the future, & wondering if anyone started a bail fund yet for people who decide to protest this in-justice at the Court?
germy
VeniceRiley
I just hit the act blue button on dailykos for all 2018 & 2020 I assume they left manchin off
Mnemosyne
@MJS:
Well, come on, chicks are getting all bent out of shape about having their civil rights taken away, like they actually need them, amirite? //
ETA: Obviously, not directed at you. Also, I can edit!
MJS
@Mnemosyne: I knew it wasn’t directed at me. Fuck him and his ilk.
Ladyraxterinok
@Kay: Amen and amen!
Aleta
@lamh36: Thanks for this. My donation is lined up. Turning both Maine seats over to Dems will be another failure on Collins’ record esp in Repub eyes, for Maine has traditionally had one of each party, both Sen and House.
This is about Susan Rice’s mom (from her jan 2017 obituary):
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne: Bye, Coward.
Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot
@Kay:
You might notice that the fighting around here (or, at least, who’s starting the fighting and tossing around spittle-flecked personal invective) is pretty much a one-way street. Hint: it ain’t the alleged “defeatists” (who the tone-police have pilloried for their wrongthink). Seeing or saying otherwise would be our very own BJ-version of “both-siderism” (not accusing you of that).
I’m on Mnemosyne’s side, and have been for 50 years (back to when I was a teenager helping my dad’s Rustbelt union campaigning for Dem candidates). I’m a proud liberal Democrat, and I’ve never missed campaigning and donating in an election cycle for Dem candidates and liberal causes (like referendums) in all that time, and I’m doing so right now in my benighted red state of AZ. I’m saddened and enraged by the morass of fascism this absolutely horrible timeline has us stuck in — it’s the worst straits our country’s been in since Vietnam and Nixon. I fear greatly for my grown children’s future, and the future beyond that of my precious little granddaughters who I love more than life itself. White privilege, patriarchy, bigotry, misogyny, and oligarch-industrial-capitalism is likely going to be the death of us all (there I go!) and I feel powerless to do anything about that (cuz I mostly am). But I’ll keep fighting anyway till I return to the eternal oblivion.
Mnemosyne tells me to go fuck myself, etc., because I’m insufficiently optimistic for her tastes (no different than John Cole or Betty Cracker, for instance). I’m still on her side.
PenAndKey
@TenguPhule: @TenguPhule: Were you expecting any other outcome? Just a few days ago in another thread, about sexual assault and the measures people take to be or feel safe, she attacked me for no damn reason. When I tried to de-escalate the conversation she started all-caps raging at me. When pointed out that she was attacking a male sexual assault survivor, and that a previous response of mine should have made that obvious what was her response? To tell me to fuck off because I was a “statistical anomaly”. I quit the conversation.
She probably thinks she won some sort of fight, if she even remembers it, and I don’t think for a second she gives a shit that she gave an assault survivor a panic attack and two straight nights of insomnia and nightmares.
I don’t come here to make enemies and I’ve been a straight ticket liberal vote since I turned 18. I’ll keep fighting the good fight but, but her? She lost any right to any moral high ground days ago.
Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot
For anyone still reading this thread, or who gives two shits about what I have to say about anything, I sincerely apologize for using the term “snowflake” in comment 232. I know it’s mostly a rightwing term of invective, and that was an asshole, smarmy move on my part. Not going to excuse it, I shouldn’t have said that, it was right for all those who called me out on it to do so, I was wrong, period.
Kay
@Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot:
I didn’t say it was you. I think you can express anything you want and deal with this anyway you want. Rant, rave, fine with me.
But at the end stick together. Don’t fracture and fly apart.
You don’t have any choice. It’s bad and you’re stuck with us :)
MomSense
@lamh36:
OMG!! I saw her recently at a function here in Maine and begged (I ain’t too proud) her to consider running.
Ksmiami
@Kay: then we get out tumbrels- sorry when democracy fails, it’s up to the ppl. Do we need a Supreme Court or a senate? Seems so archaic for a modern country w 330 million. Ps the Czars cracked down really hard on the peasantry and they were murdered in a basement so…
J R in WV
@TenguPhule:
Well, but the alternative… it’s a giant piece of fascist fat called Patrick Morrisey, who is from New Jersey, not a fatal error, but still… He’s been attorney general, and sued to prevent his constituents from having health care insurance, for one tiny example.
So now I have these choices:
1. Vote for Fuckin Joe Bastard Manchin,
2. Vote for fascist Patrick Morrisey,
3. Don’t vote in the senate race, which helps fascist Morrisey.
What do you think? I’m still leaning toward voting for Manchin, no matter how much I hate him personally and politically, because he isn’t a Russo-Republican. I expect someone has felonious dirt on Manchin, he’s long been rumored in LEO circles to be mobbed up, being from that part of the state. But still…
All my options do appear to suck at this point !!!
J R in WV
Joe Manchin is currently leading in his WV Senate race by 9 points, because he is an incumbent, his family has been successful in WV politics for 50 years, and he isn’t Patrick Morrisey, who is a giant, obese, fascist who opposes health care for his constituents, an easy sell even in WV. For Joe I mean.
So why did he make this decision>????
All signs point to blackmail~!!~ I can’t think of any other reason for him to vote to confirm a hateful, fascist, raging alcoholic, perjured, attempted rapist. Who probably drugged and gang raped other women in his college days. And who promised to screw Democrats on his Supreme Court Bench seat. So, Russian Blackmail, via the mob, now owned and controlled by the Russian mafia.
ETA: to add perjured, fix typos, THANKS Edit button!!!
Mnemosyne
@Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot:
No, jackass, I’m telling you to go fuck yourself because the people who are most affected by this don’t need to hear your apocalyptic bullshit because they’re already calling rape crisis and suicide helplines to deal with the despair they’re feeling. Stop. Making. People. Feel. Worse.
If you can’t be bothered to understand that, then you are not on my side.
PenAndKey
@Mnemosyne:
You know Mnemosyne? You’re not the only person in the world who has to deal with this shit. You’ve already belittled me as being “IN THE MINORITY” when it comes to sexual assault because I’m a man. So don’t give is this soapbox shit about “making people feel worse”. You’re doing that just fine by your lonesome.
We’re all on the same side fighting against the same causes and people. Why the fuck are you so adamant on attacking ANYONE who you perceive as “privileged”? Because we don’t give you itemized lists of what steps we’re taking push back against the GOP whenever you tell us to fuck off?
And even if I wasn’t assaulted when I was younger, so fucking what? I have a wife. I have a son who could very well face the same threats I did. I have a mother. I have friends who stand to lose everything you claim you’re fighting for. Who the fuck are you to say we can’t participate in this struggle?
So what are you more interested in: belittling your allies or actually making a difference? Because, from where I’m sitting, you’re all rage and no substance.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@PenAndKey:
Mnemosyne didn’t say anything wrong. There was a commenter here who stated she was contemplating suicide because of everything going on. Negative doom and gloom all the time isn’t going to help anyone’s mental state
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Amendment: towards Spinoza and the like here in this thread
PenAndKey
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: Mnemosyne has been on the warpath against commenters for far more than just the last few hours. I’m sure you mean well, but that’s a post hoc justification for her deplorable conduct for at least the last week.
Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot
@Mnemosyne: Likely neither you nor anyone else is reading this dead thread anymore, but I just have to say that you really are a viciously nasty piece of work, aren’t you? Just throwing that out there, anyone so interested can read what I’ve written around here lately and what you’ve written and judge for themselves, free country and all (though maybe not for long — omg, there I go again!).
Nothing I’ve written here or anywhere else is as “apocalyptic” as John Cole’s post after this one titled “But Her Emails”, or any number of other posts from him lately (like, say, his “I’m in a Foul Mood…” post on Wednesday). Maybe take up your tone-police crusade with him? I’m guessing you wouldn’t dare.