Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Dear elected officials: Trump is temporary, dishonor is forever.

The low info voters probably won’t even notice or remember by their next lap around the goldfish bowl.

Republicans don’t lie to be believed, they lie to be repeated.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”

Celebrate the fucking wins.

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

People are weird.

Our messy unity will be our strength.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

The republican speaker is a slippery little devil.

President Musk and Trump are both poorly raised, coddled 8 year old boys.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

Nothing says ‘pro-life’ like letting children go hungry.

The snowflake in chief appeared visibly frustrated when questioned by a reporter about egg prices.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

“But what about the lurkers?”

Oh FFS you might as well trust a 6-year-old with a flamethrower.

At some point, the ability to learn is a factor of character, not IQ.

The fundamental promise of conservatism all over the world is a return to an idealized past that never existed.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

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  1. 1.

    Scout211

    I am getting political text messages from Democrats right now and I am not liking it. Does that make me an old?

    I mailed my ballot in today. No on DiFi for me.

  3. 3.

    ruemara

    At some point, we have to believe that the media does it because they’re fine with white supremacy. It’s just a little difference in positions, nothing important! It’s not like white supremacy will affect them! Rinse, repeat until death & destruction.

  13. 13.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @ruemara: They don’t care about the nature of the content as long as it brings in ratings.

    Wipe them out. All of them.

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    @Citizen_X: I think there is maybe a 5-10% chance that Trump knows what autocrat means. He probably hears “aristocrat” and assumes it’s a good thing. He might know that from the Disney movie.

  17. 17.

    Scout211

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Good question. I had a tough time deciding between the two Democrats. Kevin de Leon has more current issues (like the environment) that he is very involved in and the issues that he has worked for in California won out for me over DiFi’s seniority.
    Plus, the California Democratic party has endorsed him over DiFi, for many of those reasons.
    We can’t lose either way, but I am ready for a change.

  21. 21.

    ruemara

    @WaterGirl: Some but not all. Some really are just that way.

    @Scout211: Seniority. That’s the factor and the endorsement was due to well, even more Bernie bro infiltration nonsense.

  22. 22.

    WaterGirl

    @Scout211: A vote against DiFI this year seems really short-sighted to me. I hope that the majority in CA are not thinking like you are.

    There’s a lot to lose in terms of experience, knowing the rules, and seniority on committees. I am not DiFi’s biggest fan, but this is not the year to choose a young pup without experience.

  24. 24.

    Mnemosyne

    @Scout211:

    I’m probably going to stick with DiFi. I feel that the issues she’s strongest on and has the most experience with are the ones that are going to come up the most under Trump. I’m not sure that De Léon would have been as comfortable championing Christine Blasey Ford. YMMV.

    Plus my ideal candidate to replace DiFi would be Adam Schiff, so I’m hoping that comes to pass.

  25. 25.

    B.B.A.

    I will vote for the first candidate to endorse categorizing them as enemy combatants and ordering the National Guard to fire on them at will.

    (Well, as long as it’s not Wilmer.)

  26. 26.

    Scout211

    @WaterGirl:

    I do think that DiFi will win re-election because she has lots of Republican moderate support here in California. I live in a very red county and she gets lots of praise from Republican voters and Barbara Boxer got trashed as a LIB for years.

    Maybe my vote was short-sided, but change has to start somewhere.

  27. 27.

    A Ghost To Most

    @WaterGirl:
    I’ve made a shit ton of preparations, and they continue. None involve weapons or ammo. Yet. They do involve being able to slip off into the mountains and disappear, up roads few cars can travel. If it comes to it, I plan on being as much a pain in the ass as I can. I have some debts to repay..

  30. 30.

    schrodingers_cat

    In the run up to 2016, PBS newshour had two people, a man and a woman with Nazi tattoos as T supporters and did a gushing piece on them on how T is getting people who were never involved in politics to volunteer. They apologized for that piece later that week. After people complained.

  31. 31.

    C Stars

    That NYT profile of McInnes was just finally too much for me. “Not afraid to get physical”? Published the very day after he instigated a (likely pre-planned) hours-long beatdown on the streets? Vomit.

    I contacted subscriptions today to cancel, and it was not easy. I have to have a “chat” with a customer service representative about why. This person/bot on the other end of the chat wanted to confirm repeatedly that I was cancelling because I was dissatisfied with some specific content. Had to rush out on a deadline so I walked away but I guess I have to try again tonight.

  33. 33.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    @WaterGirl:

    …a young pup without experience.

    “Without seniority in the US Senate” would be accurate. I’m not a California voter, and don’t have much of a horse in this race, but De Leon is an experienced and accomplished legislator. And he’s probably older than a “pup” too.

  37. 37.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Apologies for derailing the thread, but wanted to let you know — because I had shared my fears and concerns the other day — that my cousin had his little toe and a slice of the side of his foot amputated this afternoon. So much better than it might have been; most of us in the family were braced to learn they were going to amputate the whole foot, so this is a great relief.

    He’s already sending funny, cheerful email updates. Can’t keep a nine-toed Canadian down for long!

  38. 38.

    Mary G

    @Scout211: When Boxer and DiFi and Clinton first ran in 1992, they put out a yard sign with Clinton on the top half, and Boxer and DiFi split in the bottom half. My neighbor put one up with Boxer’s quarter cut out. Rush Limbaugh really went after her for being a “feminazi” and lots of people bought it.

  39. 39.

    schrodingers_cat

    As we get closer to the elections I predict the number of people coming here to comment about how everything is lost and our votes won’t count is going to increase.

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    @jeffreyw: I know that; I didn’t mean to indicate otherwise. Just trying to say her experience is valuable at this moment in time.

  45. 45.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Mary G:

    Such good news!

    It really is. He said that his biggest concern was that he wouldn’t be able to stand up to pee in the middle of the night (I don’t know about other times of day; he didn’t say). Anyhow, apparently the nurses assured him that he would quickly learn to adjust his balance and shouldn’t have any trouble standing and aiming properly!

  49. 49.

    chris

    Daniel Dale has a piece in the Star about King and Goldy.
    Goldy was fired from Rebel Media for being too extreme. As if! Going on nazi media and discussing the “Jewish Question” was too much for Ezra Levant the Rebel Commander. Ezra is an asshole to be sure but he is also, as you might guess, Jewish.

    I will not read about Gavin McInnes but he also worked at Rebel and got fired by Ezra. They sent Gavin to Israel and he came back and wrote a piece called IIRC “10 Things I Hate About the Motherfucking Jews.” Long gone of course but you can see Ezra’s point. Does the NYT mention that? No? Curious.

    ETA: Warning, NSFL. http://www.canadalandshow.com/rebel-media-hosts-antisemitism/

  50. 50.

    Jay

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Around the intertubes, on the top 10,000 Lefty Blogs, I have noticed that people are all out of fucks to give for the Eeyore’s, Bernie Bro’s, Rose Twitteratti, Purity Ponies, and assorted Trolls and are pushing back hard and often.

  51. 51.

    Elizabelle

    @schrodingers_cat: Yeah, I know. We have enough with our homegrown Eeyores without having to tolerate the professional ones.

    @SiubhanDuinne: A nine-toed Canadian. Way better than being a one-footed one (not that there’s anything wrong with not being bipedal.). And he can legally toke now too. Glad that turned out better than feared.

    I wonder if he will have a phantom toe for the rest of his long life?

  54. 54.

    Karen

    @C Stars:

    It’s interesting there was a post from Vice News because McInnes created the Vice channel. I can’t watch Vice without puking.

  56. 56.

    Elizabelle

    @schrodingers_cat: A commenter showed up in a closed Facebook group today (local Democratic women), to stir up trouble about Bernie and the primaries, and informed us she voted for Jill Stein because both parties are corrupt.

    I really did check if she might be a fake. I plan to ask the woman who is her only other shown contact if she knows this Steinbot in person.

  60. 60.

    chris

    @Jay: I know, just providing a little background for those who might not know. So they’ll understand when we ask the tumbrel to swing through TO.

  62. 62.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Elizabelle:

    I wondered that myself. But he has had so much necrotic tissue in his feet, with no feeling, for so long, that he may have lost any awareness of individual toes years ago.

    I don’t think he’s out of the woods. There are probably more surgeries in his future. But I am thrilled that his spirits bounced back within an hour of the slice-and-dice.

  64. 64.

    JMG

    This is all so the regular old white people who watch this crap go “See, I’m not a racist, I’m not like him. But he does have one good ideas.”

  65. 65.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Jay:

    LOL. I thought the same thing, but never having been a guy I figured that Standing While Peeing must be some kind of dude pride thing.

  66. 66.

    BruceFromOhio

    It’s Almost As Though the Media Villagers Like Having Open Bigots to Showcase

    “Almost” ? Tut, tut, dear, you’ve not been paying attention.

    @Elizabelle:

    …she voted for Jill Stein because both parties are corrupt.

    And Stein sure showed her what’s what! I trust her purity is still intact har har har.

    Not.

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    @lamh36: If that’s what they’re doing, doesn’t it kind of spoil the whole thing by them stating out loud exactly what they are trying to do?

    If Republican senators won’t stand up to Trump on this, then every single one of them needs to be out of office. Tomorrow. No, make that yesterday. If you don’t draw the line at murder, then there is no line that can be drawn for anything.

  69. 69.

    gene108

    @ruemara:

    At some point, we have to believe that the media does it because they’re fine with white supremacy. It’s just a little difference in positions, nothing important! It’s not like white supremacy will affect them!

    White supremacy has been the acceptable default position of this country until the 1970’s, but never really went away. The only thing that has changed is who is counted as white. If you wanted to get ahead, in the last 50 years, you just had to be more circumspect in your racism.

    But Trump started saying the quiet parts out loud and won.

    So I guess there are people in the media trying to figure out how much of the quiet parts they can start saying out loud again.

  71. 71.

    Jay

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    It is a dude pride thing,

    Until you and the partner split up household chores, and you get cleaning the bathroom.

    That’s when you start sitting down.

    It also trains you for when you get older and the stream flow slows.

  72. 72.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Mary G: My cousin used to work at the Asian Age in the 90s when he was the editor. The stories that she has shared with me. Glad that he is finally paying the price. Never thought that I would see the day.

  73. 73.

    The Pale Scot

    Gavin McInnes = Protestant Scum

    I’m +5 so I’m not going to elaborate except that bigots suck

  74. 74.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Amir Khalid:

    Do you ever get snowfall in Malaysia? Because I’m told that being able to “write one’s name” in the snow is a genuine marker (sorry, unintended) of masculinity

  75. 75.

    tobie

    @schrodingers_cat: if I recall correctly, the woman had a double 8 tattoo for the eighth letter of the alphabet H in “Heil Hitler.” PBS offered some lame explanation that some say the tatoo isa known Nazi sign but our guest insists it’s a Celtic symbol. I’ve hardly watched the show in recent years because of moments like this.

  79. 79.

    chopper

    @C Stars:

    “wow, he’s not afraid to get physical at times”.

    of course, point out the fact that antifa-types have been kicking the shit out of nazi assholes since basically forever, and suddenly they’re all “why so violent?”

  80. 80.

    Jay

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Up until a certain age. Helps not to have a long name. Helps not to have piercings.

    It’s also temp dependent.

    Then at a certain age peeing standing in the snow is just about convenience.

  85. 85.

    Amir Khalid

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Writing one’s name in the snow is not a thing here in Malaysia. The only place in the whole country where it snows is the peak of Mount Kinabalu. It’s a popular hiking destination so I don’t think there’s enough privacy for outdoor peeing anyway.

  88. 88.

    Fair Economist

    @WaterGirl:

    I am not DiFi’s biggest fan, but this is not the year to choose a young pup without experience.

    De Leon is the current leader of the California Senate, and the reason California passed its zero carbon electricity by 2045 legislation.

  89. 89.

    guachi

    I’ll be voting for de Leon. It’s an election where I have two good choices and I think de Leon has done enough good things that I’ll vote for him. If Feinstein wins I’ll be happy with that, too.

  90. 90.

    Mike in NC

    @delk: Rudy the clueless was photographed hugging the same neo-Nazi that Steve King endorsed for Toronto mayor.

  91. 91.

    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)

    @tobie:

    if I recall correctly, the woman had a double 8 tattoo for the eighth letter of the alphabet H in “Heil Hitler.” PBS offered some lame explanation that some say the tatoo isa known Nazi sign but our guest insists it’s a Celtic symbol.

    Double 8 or 88 tats are Nazi symbols and have been for at least 30 years.

    Hell, I knew that when I was a young and stupid extreme right-winger back in the early 1990’s.

    Paraphernalia with that logo, along with such quaint things as a t-shirt showing a mounted Klan Night Rider captioned ‘The Original Boyz in the Hood’, were quite common at gun show merchant booths.

  92. 92.

    Jay

    @NotMax:

    Padded seat, self closing, right toilet height and bowl, ( toilets come in a range of toilet heights and bowl/seat shapes, test them out before buying to find the best one for your size, age, stature), heated tile floor, magazine or bookrack.

  93. 93.

    The Pale Scot

    @Jay: If you read about Paisley and the DUP they are pretty all Nazi all the time. The DUP is buggering the Brexit negotiations so to kill the Good Friday Agreement. It’s Anglo racists all the way down.

  94. 94.

    Mnemosyne

    @Schlemazel:

    That is probably the most inspiring #MeToo story I’ve ever heard. Yaaas, Queen(s)! ?

    ETA: Someone else may already have corrected you, but it was a (gay) boy who was saved.

  96. 96.

    Brachiator

    @schrodingers_cat: Voting has begun. Every day is a day to energize voters. Some people in the office today were going over their ballots and getting information about California ballot propositions. I look at November 6 more as the last day of voting than I view it as Election Day.

    And between now and then I don’t care about polls or projections.

    Votes don’t count only if you don’t vote.

  99. 99.

    Amir Khalid

    @NotMax:
    Back in the 1990s, Kenny himself came over for the franchisee’s nationwide launch. Per Wikipedia, the Kenny Rogers Roasters chain is still going strong in Asia, and in fact is now under Malaysian ownership — that of the Berjaya Group, whose chairman Vincent Tan also owns the Eniglish Premier League football team based in Wales’ capital, Cardiff City FC.

  100. 100.

    A Ghost To Most

    Trump is missing a golden marketing and branding opportunity – Trump branded Dicktatorships.

  103. 103.

    A Ghost To Most

    @NotMax:

    Having long favored having a padded toilet seat, incumbent upon me to get the full money’s worth out of it.

    Sometimes this full service blog thing gets wierd.

  105. 105.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @A Ghost To Most:
    Even then, they count, because it’s so hard to just change the voting totals to what suits you. You know how I know they can’t do more than suppress votes and pick at the margins? Because there is no fucking way they didn’t throw EVERYTHING they had at the Moore election, and they lost it.

  107. 107.

    WaterGirl

    @Omnes Omnibus: Thank you. I was just half wondering whether A Ghost To Most consistently posts to bring down enthusiasm and/or hopefulness or whether it just seems like it today.

  110. 110.

    Ken Shabby

    John Roberts. In the Year of Jubilo.

    That nice man

    “We’re an autonomous co-operative, not some acquatic ceremony”

    I’m sure The Confederacy has finally read and understood, the entire Consty Tyewshin, just like Jesus said it was.

    Bless both His and their names, ah-men.

    Those fucking slobs –

  112. 112.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @WaterGirl: I am in the anti-eeyore camp. We need positive emotions going forward. I will willing fight with the doom-people. Done.

  113. 113.

    WaterGirl

    I love this — Cruz whining about Beto O’Rourke:

    “No, instead, the media covers, it’s all rainbows and puppies,” Cruz said of O’Rourke’s press coverage, which he dismissed as “puff pieces,” a derisive term.

    “And he’s got really good hair,” Cruz said. “Apparently, we are electing a clump of hair.”

  115. 115.

    germy

    Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. for the first time Tuesday addressed the recent bitter partisan fight over new Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh and the Supreme Court, seeking to “assure” an audience that the court will serve “one nation” and not “one party or one interest.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/roberts-assures-audience-supreme-court-will-serve-one-nation-not-one-party-or-interest/2018/10/16/3c5238f0-d196-11e8-8c22-fa2ef74bd6d6_story.html?utm_term=.bff1de1fda14

  118. 118.

    WaterGirl

    @germy: John Roberts, I hope you don’t mind, but we won’t be taking your word for that.

    We will be watching. As Barack Obama said about something during his first campaign: The world will be watching.

  121. 121.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: I could smell the stench of his bullshit just sitting in my living room, reading his remarks.

    They. Think. We. Are. Stupid.

    edit: “There, there, it will all be fine. You can trust us.”

  124. 124.

    Jeffro

    @lamh36: “searching for an explanation”…where. is. my. bat?

    “Searching for an explanation”?!?!? A journalist is dead – tortured, killed, dismembered. There are tapes. There were 15 Saudis flown in, one with a bone saw, and then they flew right the fuck back out again. There is no “searching for an explanation”. They either killed him or they didn’t. If they didn’t, they sure as hell aren’t all het up about being falsely accused. Pompeo sure as hell isn’t asking even the most basic questions or putting anyone at all on the blessed spot. (Neither are reporters, btw, but oh well)

    “Searching for an explanation”. “Searching for some plausible way to deny what they obviously did and/or buy time for more checks to clear in US congressmens’ campaign accounts” is more like it.

  126. 126.

    FelonyGovt

    @SiubhanDuinne: Great news about your cousin! My brother in law has had similar problems and had parts of 3 toes amputated. He’s now able to walk up to 5 miles at a time again(although he had to start driving, can’t feel pressure on the pedals). Your cousin should adapt fine.

    And I’m voting for Diane Feinstein but would be ok with De León.

  127. 127.

    Gex

    The main stream media will just keep pushing them out there, leaving no stone unturned looking for new recruits for Confedernazis. The 1920s Klan actually credited the FTFNYT for helping with their numbers in that era.

  128. 128.

    Steve in the ATL

    @germy: a proper journalist would have added, “thereby signally a major shift in the court’s direction”

  129. 129.

    Elizabelle

    @germy: That’s incredible, isn’t it? Roberts knows that people see that the USSC has become just as corrupted as any other institution the GOP has ruined in Washington.

    I don’t think for a moment the majority wanted Kavanaugh on the court. Thomas, maybe. Maybe Gorsuch, although maybe not.

    Kavanaugh is so blatantly partisan. and the Voting Rights decision and Citizens United show how dreadful Roberts and Kennedy are/were. People are watching.

  131. 131.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @WaterGirl:

    “And he’s got really good hair,” Cruz said. “Apparently, we are electing a clump of hair.”

    Which beats electing a lump of shit.

  132. 132.

    Elizabelle

    @Baud: It’s a little bird. Hopefully not the one that got pounded by (whoever was Shrek’s wife).

    I am good with positive.

  133. 133.

    Duane

    Red Sox get a hugh break in ALCS. Joe West rules fan interference on Altuve’s apparent 2 run homer. That’s gonna be controversial.

  136. 136.

    WaterGirl

    @Elizabelle: Reading your comment just now reminded me of what I wanted to tell you earlier!

    I listened to the LGM PODCAST: THE KAVANAUGH CAPER last night.

    On the latest LGM Podcast, Robert Farley moderates a discussion between Paul and Scott from LGM about the Kavanaugh hearing, the immediate impact on the Supreme Court of Kavanaugh’s ascension, and the broader political implications of the confirmation.

    I was kind of surprised and definitely pleased to hear that both of them seemed to think it is quite possible that Kavenaugh could end up off the supreme court. Not that he would be impeached, but that information will come out about his finances or something else that would make it nearly impossible to stay on the court. I thought you might be interested to know that and I thought it might help keep your spirits up.

    I listened to the podcast as I was falling asleep last night, so I will listen again tonight to get any details I might have missed as I was drifting off to sleep.

  140. 140.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I understand people feeling afraid or discouraged. But not this cynicism that the “fix” is already in. There’s no way Ghost can know that unless he’s some high level GOP official and I don’t believe he is.

  147. 147.

    RAVEN

    @Pluky: They used to have a big drag queen event at the Human Rights Festival here and many of them were just over the top with being all hostile and aggressive to everyone. What the fuck is that?

  148. 148.

    Steeplejack

    @Schlemazel:

    It was a gay guy, not a girl.

    But, yes, a good story.

    ETA: I see Mnem got there. And FYWP is doing weird things on comment updating.

  151. 151.

    WaterGirl

    @Steeplejack: It has been doing that for days. The “gets stuck on SAVING” — until the end of time — or until you close that window and open up the thread in a new one?

  153. 153.

    Duane

    @WaterGirl: Some one should ask Roberts what he’ll do to fix the damage his court has done already, and don’t say it’s up to Congress. We’re wise to that excuse.

  155. 155.

    Jay

    @Viva BrisVegas:

    In the South Side Chicago, over the top TV show “Shameless”, one of the character’s has an adult circumcision to please his “girlfriend”. He has to avoid erections for 72 hours but she keeps messing with him, he keeps tearing out the stiches,

    Finally, his doctor recomment’s a 72 hour program of watching Canada Cruz’s speeches, as many patients have reported that his speeches cause impotence.

  156. 156.

    Jay

    @RAVEN:

    Being over the top, hostile and agressive, is part of the “act”,

    And an early form of defence against a hostile audience and society.

    Keep in mind, they are men dressed as women.

  157. 157.

    J R in WV

    @WaterGirl:

    I’m hoping Breet “Justice” Kavanaugh gets indicted, tried, and convicted for ruling in a manner specifically designed to support major payments to his family bank accounts.

    Much of which decision may rule that most of his payments were a result of his tenance were to describe his family as well-off, due to his family income.

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