Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

We will not go back.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Our messy unity will be our strength.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

The fundamental promise of conservatism all over the world is a return to an idealized past that never existed.

Tide comes in. Tide goes out. You can’t explain that.

There are some who say that there are too many strawmen arguments on this blog.

American history and black history cannot be separated.

Do we throw up our hands or do we roll up our sleeves? (hint, door #2)

Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

Republicans in disarray!

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

Jack Smith: “Why did you start campaigning in the middle of my investigation?!”

So many bastards, so little time.

“But what about the lurkers?”

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

If a good thing happens for a bad reason, it’s still a good thing.

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

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  4. 4.

    r€nato

    @Ruckus: who said it’s going to fix everything? But if you want to see the #Rapeublicans double down on Trumpism, then stay home on Nov. 6th. A GOP victory next month is vindication. They will gleefully come for your Social Security and Medicare and whatever else they think they can get away with.

  5. 5.

    lahke

    Can’t cope right now. I just keep replaying the squawking mongoose for my cats. And maybe go to bed hours early.

  7. 7.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Donald Trump…

    No, I won’t go there. Even though he and Scalise deserve it. Every bit.

    They are both unquestionably evil.

  8. 8.

    Patricia Kayden

    But it’s the Democrats who the MSM calls out for not being civil. It’s become the norm for Trump to engage in bullying and violent language. A few GOP Congresspeople tut tut and then everyone moves on to scolding the Democrats again.

  9. 9.

    Roger Moore

    More than that, it’s OK for Americans who care about a free press to have a strong tribal reaction to journalists being murdered.

    I think it’s a good thing for all of us to have a strong human reaction to anyone being murdered. Yes, it’s worse because it was a journalist, it’s terrible that it was that journalist’s own government that was supposed to be charged with defending him, etc. But there’s something deeply wrong with the world when we have to justify why we’re outraged at a murder.

  11. 11.

    Ruckus

    I’m not staying home, I’ve voted since I was allowed to. Every time, mid terms and national. 48 yrs of voting.
    @Major Major Major Major:
    I realize that you didn’t mean it that way but look at how it might sound to someone not on your side. I’d like all this to be over tomorrow. But it won’t.
    What we are seeing is the last 150+ yrs of not responding to bigotry. Of whitewashing the problem. It’s allowed, however he did it, the shitgibbon to be installed in the WH and continue his racist rallies around the country. It’s bad enough that he has no idea what the job entails or that he’s totally incapable of doing that. But he’s doing instead is using his position to normalize racism. And half our political class is cheering him on.
    And not dealing with this as a problem for decades has made the problem a lot worse. Could it have been made better? No one will ever know. But it has the capability to destroy the country. And shitgibbon is further separating the two sides. We’ve had one war over this, is he going for a replay?

  12. 12.

    A Ghost To Most

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    I disagree. A whole new generation of non-courtier journalists are making their bones on this, and pushing out the Chinchillas and Dancing Daves in the process. Journalism hasn’t been this healthy since Noxin.

  13. 13.

    randy khan

    @Major Major Major Major:

    In a lot of ways, I agree. The longer we wait, the more anxious I get. There’s going to be a lot more to do when it’s over, no matter what happens, but I just want to know what kind of work we’ll need to do.

  14. 14.

    Jay

    @Ruckus:

    Yup, fork in the road time. If the Democractic Party win’s just the House, the tide starts turning even though the puke funnel will keep flowing until 2020 and many horrors will continue, or get worse,

    If the Democratic Party takes both the House and the Senate, things will get better faster.

    If the Democrats don’t take House and/or Senate, the American experiment is over.

    And Climate Change is coming like an express train.

  15. 15.

    Avalune

    You would think I would stop being surprised by how open and casual they are with this stuff now.

    I don’t have much to contribute to the politics besides disgust and hey look at kitties!

    I’m going to put together a more comprehensive post later but I wanted to give update on Leto. Found out more about crash – more head on than I realized. He hit gas tank and broke pelvis, the his head hit the windshield of the oncoming car, then he launched about 13ft where he luckily didn’t get run over by the car behind the one that hit him. Her statement to police was that she didn’t see him. I have receipts showing he just replaced his headlamp and got his inspection – so that’s on her since she didn’t have an arrow and should have yielded.

    He keeps spiking fever today but they have had him breathing on his own almost all day. They gave him a slight boost on the respirator this evening though because they wanted to give him a break since he’s fighting fever too. He started to wake up a little a couple times and moved his head towards my voice but wasn’t ready yet and settle me back down.

    Our son gets in tomorrow evening. I’m so excited to see him though I wish it had been for thanksgiving dinner or something instead. ?

  17. 17.

    Steve in the ATL

    We are at Lake Oconee for the weekend, sitting on the back porch, enjoying the cool weather and the lake view, and three houses down are a bunch of fucking southie teenagers drunk on miller lite (we checked) and playing poker on their back porch. Apparently people in Boston don’t know that sound carries across water and for two hours all we have been hearing is “I got two fucking queens, you better fucking fold!” “Fuck you I gotta fucking piss you wanna hold my fucking cock?” “Fuck you you fucking mook” and so on and so on and so on….

    It’s like outtakes from “good will hunting”

    Fucking Boston.

    On the other hand, at least they’re not Yankees fans!

  18. 18.

    Ruckus

    @Jay:

    If the Democrats don’t take House and/or Senate, the American experiment is over.

    First, QFT.
    Like most humans we are protectors of the status that we know. In this country that means racist. Sure we have areas and maybe half the population that do not accept that and want to change it. But the half that accepts that and doesn’t want to change it, other than going backwards includes what looks like all the mainstream media. How much of what is going on would any of us know if not for the internet? For any of this to change there will have to be a lot of structural changes in our lives. I doubt seriously that it will turn around in the remainder of my life. I’d like to be wrong.

  20. 20.

    cynthia ackerman

    Just spent a very interesting half day here in Oregon’s Second (Walden), rousting new volunteers for Jamie McCleod-Skinner’s campaign in Wasco County.

    Everyone who responded, 100℅, committed to helping the ground game in these last three weeks.

    The goal of the JMS campaign now is to ensure that low-probability voters who have indicated support actually vote.

    If what I saw today is marginally indicative of the rest of this district, Jamie stands a reasonable chance of one of the biggest upsets most folks are not even tracking.

    If the worst case scenario is a narrow defeat for JMS, the true victory is that OR2 Dems have very effectively mobilized a ground game for the first time in history.

    Anyone contributing even an ounce of effort to this campaign should feel immensely satisfied, no matter how the final tally adds up.

  21. 21.

    Mike in DC

    We should win elections and try to win elections for so long as elections are remotely fair and unrigged. I’m getting too old to read up on scoped rifles and IEDs.

  22. 22.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Avalune: oh shit that is awful. Arguably worse than a bunch of Southies ruining our third bottle of Caymus.

    When he wakes up, let him know that his imaginary internet friends are thinking about him.

    You guys have insurance, right?

  23. 23.

    Immanentize

    @Avalune: I’ve been reading everything you’ve shared. Somehow this has destroyed me more than most tradgedy. Leto and I always seemed sympatico and that is rare in this world. Please tell him I am pulling for him.

  26. 26.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Jay:

    If the Democrats don’t take House and/or Senate, the American experiment is over.

    If this happens, in spite of everything (~12-15% probability according to 538, depending on how you figure House/Senate correlation), what are you going to do?

    The thing is, I’ve heard statements like this one about several past US elections that we already lost. And here we are. So was it over a long time ago?

    I don’t entirely buy it. This election is an important one. But it’s still one midterm. This is a marathon, and sometimes things don’t go your way. Taking some governorships and state legislatures is arguably as important as taking the House (for one thing, that’s a huge defense against vote suppression), and the 2020 Senate map looks a lot better than the 2018 one.

  29. 29.

    MomSense

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Ha! Reminds me of the couple who lived across the street from me Inn Boston.

    Fuck you.
    No, fuck you.
    Get outta my house.
    No get outta MY house.

    All night long.

  33. 33.

    RAVEN

    @Steve in the ATL: When I used to fish there none of that shit existed. I’d put in at Swords or Redlands and run up to the 1-20 bridge and tie up. The first time I did it I had my crappie light in the water and was fishing away with my bobbers headed south. All of the sudden everything started going the other direction and I was freaked. No one had told me that they pumped water from Oconee up to SInclair to generate power!

  35. 35.

    Schlemazel

    @Avalune:
    My nephew got hammered by a drunk (in the middle of the afternoon!) and had similar injuries. You said Leto had protective gear on, so did my nephew & the nurses & doctors all said it saved his life. It was scary as shit for a couple of weeks, fevers, various panics, but he pulled through. I believe Leto will too & it is because he was smart & protected himself. I fully understand the pain & fear you are experiencing and won’t tell you to try to not worry, it didn’t do me any good when people told me that. He is going to get better despite the scares, the spikes are to be expected. You guys have lot of people pulling for you out here.

  36. 36.

    Avalune

    @Steve in the ATL: Lol I don’t know the southies do sound pretty dreadful and I look forward to that being the worst thing about my day! We do have insurance (if you mean health but also car) but this is still going to hurt. Neither of us have the kind of leave we need to get him back on his feet but we are trying to work on logistics. The accident laws in PA seem pretty horrible but the investigating officer seems pretty much on our side atm, so hopefully the woman at fault’s insurance will pay. Right now I’m more focused on his next breath and next surgery, getting this sweater knit as a distraction, making sure my anxious puppy isn’t neglected and trying not to toss my in-laws in the river (don’t tell them I said that). Next week the official report will be filed and our car insurance can get to work.

  37. 37.

    Avalune

    @Immanentize: awe thanks. I’ve been talking to him about you guys and what you are saying and promising to charge his phone so he can listen to pod save when he wakes up.

  38. 38.

    Ruckus

    @MomSense:
    Sounds a bit like my parents. Not so much the use of the word fuck but the arguing. One night I went down stairs and told them to shut up or get a divorce. They were so used to the arguing that they didn’t even realize they were doing it. Fun times. At least they got quieter.

  39. 39.

    Steve in the ATL

    @RAVEN: ha! Every lake in Georgia is man made and almost all owned by Georgia Power.

    We’ve been avoiding coming over here for a few weeks because we knew we’d get angry at the signs. None in our neighborhood, of course, which is all Atlanta residents boating and golfing on weekends, but the drive from I-20 to the lake was all Kemp and (vomit) Jody Hice. Fucking farmers. Rural people should be disenfranchised along with white men.

  45. 45.

    Amir Khalid

    @Avalune:
    Bianca and I are pulling for Leto all the way from Malaysia. (She just lay down on my lap, and I’m typing this between giving her skritches.)

  46. 46.

    Steve in the ATL

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: oh, you really trust Ruckus?

    @MomSense: they tried to take a boat out earlier but thankfully didn’t know how to start it. My wife walked over, got on the boat with them, showed them where the keys were, then took the keys and left. The dad said “thank you—I’ll pick those up tomorrow!”

  47. 47.

    Fair Economist

    Filling out my California ballot and just want to remind all Cali jackals to vote to kick off any judge appointed by a Republican, so the Republicans will put up a ballot measure to get rid of judicial elections.

  50. 50.

    Schlemazel

    @Matt McIrvin:
    What do we do if the Dems don’t take at least the house? Well that is a toughie. 20 years ago I told my high school aged kids to get the hell out of the US. They did not. But 2 of the 3 have chosen to not have kids so they can easily run when they have to. We are old now & will die here and I expect that to be in poverty and maybe violently. I have no idea how our grandkids will make it out. The earth cannot support 7 billion people & a mass extinction event will happen. They may make it through, they may not. The amount of time we have to minimize the threat is tiny and if we cannot do so soon the results will be catastrophic for those grandkids. EVen if we only slow the freight train the results will be really bad.

    There has not been a more critical election since 1860 and the margin for error this time is not even 10% of what it was in 1860.

    Sorry if that is too bleak for you but we HAVE to win 2018

  54. 54.

    raven

    @Avalune: I’ve had them for years and they’ve been very good. We just got new roofs on both our houses and the bill was less than the settlement (we still had 3k in deductibles) and the wrote a note saying they wouldn’t ask for money back.

  57. 57.

    Avalune

    @Ruckus: I remember my dad and his then girlfriend screaming at each other and she pulled out a knife and I grabbed it from her and told them if they were gonna kill each other that’s great but they weren’t doing it in a house full of her little kids, so they either knock it off or leave I didn’t care which. They got quieter too!

  58. 58.

    raven

    @Steve in the ATL: Um, New Zealand. But Oconee was my main place for quite a few years. I’d drive the back way through Farmington and hit the Gresham Mall for bait! All the trees that were in the water are gone now and the runoff from the fucking golf courses and subdivisions have trashed the fishing.

  60. 60.

    Avalune

    @raven: I do have a beef with them regarding our roof. They paid to fix half. I refused to fix half a roof. All or nothing >< But aside from that they have always been good.

  61. 61.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Avalune: he has real injuries, which is horrible for him but great for a lawsuit, so find a high quality personal injury attorney. So, not one with billboards or tv commercials or the back cover of the yellow pages. Those guys are only good for soft tissue cases.

  62. 62.

    raven

    @Avalune: Huh, they were really good with ours. We sent two appeals for stuff they missed and they sent us money right away. Have you asked them for a 2nd inspection? Was it hail?

  63. 63.

    Avalune

    @Amir Khalid: scritches! My dog is an anxious mess right now. She came in the room when I was going through the pockets of Leto’s bloody clothes and backed off real worried. Then I popped her in a car and drove her to a hotel near the hospital where she has to hang out until I come to talk her for walkies a few times a day. She is refusing food unless I’m sitting there and I’ve been sleeping at the hospital so i feel so bad for her right now.

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    @Anne Laurie:

    I’ll quibble with your use of “ginning up” in the title.

    It usually means to create or develop something, not to inspire or arouse a group of people (which is what I take your meaning to be).

    OED: “To produce or develop (a desired product or outcome) by activity or effort; to work (something) up, esp. hastily or rapidly.”

    Maybe I could see it in something like: “We need to gin up an angry mob for this Brooks Brothers riot we’re planning.” But “ginning up his angry mob” seems to indicate that it already exists and that your intending meaning is arousing or motivating the mob. So “ginning up” doesn’t seem to fit. Maybe something like “inflaming his angry mob” might be more precise.

  65. 65.

    frosty

    @Avalune: Can you take leave without pay? I’ve done that at work. We can set up a gofundme here to help. I’d contribute. Alternatively, my company allows employees to donate unused leave time for people in your situation. Yours might, too. Try looking into both in between working on the sweater.

  66. 66.

    Avalune

    Steve – you mean I shouldn’t call Saul?

    Raven – no. It’s just old and been through a lot of indirect hurricane wind. Our property manager was supposed to do some stuff on her end that we could get to them but she didn’t and we were moving to another country so it just kinda got pushed to the back burner and forgotten.

  69. 69.

    Ruckus

    @Avalune:
    Things do sound like they are going according to how they usually do with accidents like Leto has been through. I really hope they continue to improve. It will be slow going at first, but keep up the fight. Best of luck to both of you.

  70. 70.

    raven

    @Avalune: Ah, I guess that’s different from our situation. The dude drew a 10×10 square and counted the “hits”. So many and they dx the whole roof.

  71. 71.

    raven

    @Avalune: When I broke my back in a wreck we were 1500 miles from home. When I recovered enough the orderlies pushed my rack over to the window and my wife had our doggie on the top of the parking lot across the street so I could see him.

  72. 72.

    tobie

    @Avalune: I’m late to this thread and to this awful news but I have no doubt your voice will pull Leto back to us. Hang in there and take hugs wherever you can. Tell Leto we miss him here at BJ.

  73. 73.

    Jay

    @Avalune:

    Check with the Staff at the Hospital, in particular, on the Ward.

    When my Dad had his stroke, and was non-responsive, they were fine with Casey visiting every day and curling up on the bed near him. His first move when he became responsive was to stroke her head.

    As Dad got better, both Casey and Digger got to visit every day, but someday’s it would take 45 minutes to make the walk to his room, because of all the patient’s that needed some pet therapy.

  75. 75.

    Chyron HR

    Getting real tired of Jim Acosta boo-hoo-hooing that the mob is threatening HIM, instead of going after a socially acceptable target like gays or blacks.

  76. 76.

    Amir Khalid

    @Steve in the ATL:
    My Fender Champ 20 baby amp has a chorus effect built in, and so does my MOOER GE100 beginner multi-effects pedal. The MOOER also offers me a choice of 20-odd distortion and fuzz pedal emulations; effects options including flanger, boost, compressor, phaser, and wah; six types of delay and seven types of reverb; eleven modulation options; a noise gate; a graphic EQ; two turtledoves; and a partridge in a pear tree. All for US$50 new. Chinese tech, man. It’s awesome.

  78. 78.

    Amir Khalid

    @Avalune:
    Dogs care a lot about the humans they love. I can understand that yours found the sight and smell of her Daddy’s bloody clothes worrying.

  80. 80.

    Avalune

    @Jay: If she were a little calmer that might work but she is high strung. She will whine and pace and bark at anyone she doesn’t know that moves too fast or gets too close to me.

    Leto keeps coughing which with a breathing tube sounds more like choking. He grabbed my hand pretty good there but still hasn’t opening his eyes. Fever is creeping up again so more ice packs.

    We’ve sort of become community with the family of the woman next door as we’d all been here to gather. We hadn’t really spoken but you know shared that bond of tired people falling asleep upright. We finally talked to them briefly as their matriarch was having her last moments. ☹️

  82. 82.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Amir Khalid: Your modulation goes to 11?

    Yeah, modern technology is awesome. I’m a tube amp guy, but I’m old and crotchety, and frankly the new technology is so much easier than collecting pedals.

    ETA: I’m wearing a Fender T-shirt as I type this. Client of my wife’s. The GC was helpful when my vintage Twin Reverb got flooded.

  83. 83.

    Avalune

    @raven: that’s friggin adorable about the dog. Both Leto and the dog will be over the moon about who I CAN bring in to the hospital when he lands tomorrow so maybe that will help.

  85. 85.

    raven

    @Avalune: It will. I was in Atlanta and my best friend was in Berkley. We were stone broke hippies but he decided to take the bus to see us. Somewhere in New Mexico the bus stopped for a break and, as was getting off he found 20 $20 bills in a baggie one the ground. He would have given it up if anyone had said anything but nobody did. He spent a few days with me, gave us some cash and flew back. I have a lot of stories but the most important thing was my ex. I was fucked up pretty baldy and smacked on demerol much of the time but she was there in that crazy ass big city hospital every day.

  87. 87.

    sgrAstar

    @Avalune: I’m so sorry to hear about this. If he’s in the ICU, be sure to take some breaks to preserve your own sanity. My Dad was in the ICU for a month- playimg his favorite music really helped him, and us. Good luck!

  88. 88.

    MomSense

    @Avalune:

    When my dad was in ICU we became very close with all the other family members there. You anxiously wait a long time for a very short visit.

    I hope you can try to get a little rest. You need your strength. Please know we are all rooting for Leto and for you and your son.

    I’m knitting a sweater, too. Right now I’m on the yoke part of an Icelandic knit. I’m only processing a cold and today’s phonebank though. I wish you were knitting under happier circumstances.

  89. 89.

    Avalune

    @frosty: I think I do actually just qualify for leave without pay under the FMLA thing. One of my supervisors took me to lunch today to talk about how we might handle this. She’s gonna talk to some people next week. Meanwhile she’s trying to see if there is any way she can get me a full time position at her campus because it’s a much much shorter commute. We are thinking that maybe I work a few days a week and then use my leave a few days so our income doesn’t completely tank but I have time off. His mom is willing to stick around to help him while I’m at work so assuming I don’t strangle her for moving all my stuff around and telling me what I need to do every five minutes that will help. His work is already setting up to have people donate leave to him, so that will help too.

  90. 90.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Jay: Trump has given voters more than enough incentive to vote against him and his Republican enablers. I’m sure you’ve seen Trump’s tweets claiming that Democrats are already cheating in early voting.
    He’s setting things up to be able to disavow the blue wave.

  91. 91.

    frosty

    @Amir Khalid: Holy Cow! How do you manage all of that!! I’ve got reverb and tremelo in the amp and an overdrive pedal. That’s enough complication!

    I have friends with pedalboards and I just don’t know what I’d stomp. I guess my sound needs are pretty simple. If only the fingers would play the notes I want. :-(

  92. 92.

    Avalune

    @MomSense: oooooh Icelandic. I want to make one of those eventually. I’m doing the Boxy by Jo Li? I think it is… one of those kind of big squares with little sleeves. Figured it would be an easy knit and wouldn’t require much shaping.

  93. 93.

    Steve in the ATL

    Omg the southies found another boat with the keys in it. They got it started but don’t know how to untie it or make it move. “Fuck, that mom was right—we don’t know how to drive a boat!”

    Now they have the SOS light flashing…fucking southies!

  95. 95.

    frosty

    @Steve in the ATL: Twin Reverb? Earplugs? Tinnitus? The Deluxe I’ve got is plenty loud. I got a Weber MiniMax for it. Buddy said “Good, I see you’ve got something to keep your coffee warm.”

  96. 96.

    Avalune

    @MomSense: weirdly this icu lets me stay in here as much as I want. I do make sure to get out some though. Go eat, meet someone, and go walk the dog. Trying to balance.

  97. 97.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Avalune: FMLA is job protection, which is great, but it is unpaid. Ideally, you will have some kind of paid time off (sick leave, vacation, whatever) to run concurrently with the FMLA.

    Shit, did I just give actual legal advice?!

  98. 98.

    Amir Khalid

    @frosty:
    I’m learning how to use all that, including the turtledoves and the partridge, alongside learning the guitar. On the bright side, it will be a loooooong time before I need a pedal upgrade. ETA: although I admit, I have been looking at the GE200.

  99. 99.

    NotMax

    FYI.

    Numbers? We don’ need no es-stinkin’ numbers.

    A new instruction has been issued to all members of OPEC – not to talk about any price level. This is indeed the new guidelines given to its members. This is aimed at avoiding any future legal actions following an American law that could be introduced. Source

  100. 100.

    Emma

    @Avalune: I am so sorry. It sounds dreadful but it sounds like he’s still fighting.Good thoughts and prayers for your family (the real ones, not the Republican ones).

  101. 101.

    Steve in the ATL

    @frosty: yeah, it was handy in college and law school when I played actual gigs but has been overkill in the [actual number deleted] years since.

    Clearly though Amir needs a Vox and probably a Roland Jazz Chorus in addition to the Champ.

    A Marshall stack? Nah, that’s for the d-bags at websites with threaded comments!

  102. 102.

    Avalune

    @Steve in the ATL: yeah unfortunately I have only been full time since April so I will burn my paid time pretty quick :( hence the work a few days a week and use the unpaid a few days. Gives me time to caregive but softens the financial blow. In theory we should be something for lost wages but I don’t want to hold my breath. Every time I try to be a responsible adult and plan shit it gets nuked from space anyway. I was just telling Mr Cole that I had the down payment to go pick up a car this weekend so he wouldn’t have to ride the bike – we just didn’t quite make it. This kind of really frustrating timing happens to us all the time. I give up!

  103. 103.

    frosty

    @Steve in the ATL: I’ve got a National Resophonic T-shirt that I treasure because Don Young gave it to me on my pilgrimage to SLO after I mentioned I owned three of his axes.

    Without him we’d all be playing beat to hell Duolians that would cost $10,000.

  105. 105.

    MomSense

    @Avalune:

    Joji Locatelli? She’s an Argentine knitwear designer who has some beautiful patterns. I love that boxy is back. I knit a Carbeth last Spring and I enjoy wearing it. Plus a bulky boxy is super quick.

    My dad was in cardiothoracic ICU so it was like a supermax.

  108. 108.

    Steve in the ATL

    @raven: the hell you doing up this late?

    ETA: staying up to watch Ohio State lose? Totally worth it.

    And to Purdue? Bwahahahaha!

  110. 110.

    raven

    @Steve in the ATL: I usually do this on football Saturday. Hell, we used to have great football threads on Saturdays until everyone got all wobbly. Plus, my brother in an insane Dodger fan so I have to watch them when I can. I’ve got 2 games on the tube and baseball on the iPad.

  113. 113.

    frosty

    @Steve in the ATL: @Amir Khalid: I started with a 1965 USA tube Vox Pathfinder, one EL84, with a bastardized Fender Champ circuit which amazingly enough had the AC30 crunch and chime. At 4 watts, of course.

    Rule: It takes at least two amps to get the best out of your guitar. And two guitars to get the best out of your amp. I think it’s a geometric progression while your income is linear. Sad!

  114. 114.

    Avalune

    @MomSense: Yeah her! I’m doing the original in fingering weight so nothing quick about that. I wasn’t familiar with her work until actress Judy Greer posted the sweater on her instagram as a potential knit-a-long.

    @Raven: I just meant giving up planning things and adulting. Seems overrated! ?

  118. 118.

    Jay

    @Patricia Kayden:

    The Insane Clown POSus disavows reality.

    I don’t think like others, that the ReThugs will steal the vote, or deny it. Sure they will try mightly to gerrymander and voter supression their way to office. They might try to Brooks Brothers their way in a few close elections, but the Nazi’s arn’t Brooks Brother’s and many of the Original Brooks Brothers are Never Trumpers now.

    The Insane Clown POSus will claim rigged vote, fake news, China hacks, Russian/Dem collusion, No Collusion!!!!Cofefe,

    But the Deplorable and Gullibillie crowds have grown smaller and smaller to the point that Paid Actors, Nazi’s, Insane Clown Posus Deadhead’s can’t even crowd the podium.

    As vile as many of the ReThug’s have become, some of them know that if you make peaceful change impossible, then violent change is the only option remaining, and they know, despite their Treason in Defence of Slavery, how the last Civil War turned out.

  125. 125.

    Avalune

    @raven: my whole family drank the kool aid. My most hill billy aunt in West Virginia is so liberal and drives everyone in the family crazy with her FB posts. I love her.

    @MomSense: I actually kind of love her instagram because it’s largely knitting and dogs with some celebrity crap in between. She learned to knit when she stopped smoking I guess.

  126. 126.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Jay:

    they know, despite their Treason in Defence of Slavery, how the last Civil War turned out.

    I feel like we clearly won the battle but they have won the war.

  130. 130.

    NotMax

    @Avalune

    Al Jolson, O-Hi-O (O-My!-O!).

    She lover the flowers and the trees and the birds
    She isn’t naughty but she knows all the words
    […]
    A country girl, you know, is just like a Ford.
    They’re not so stylish but for service, oh Lord!

    :)

  138. 138.

    NotMax

    @Jay

    Nor fined for misuse or abuse, apparently. Godfrey Daniels, that’s an ultra irksome, sets the teeth on edge affectation.

  141. 141.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Jay: The situation is just hunky-dory for the Bourbons.

    The states may be shitholes, but the assholes are still making out well.

  144. 144.

    J R in WV

    @Avalune:

    So glad he’s breathing on his own some now, that’s a great sign, even though it’s hard on him to have a vent replaced. I’m sure they have the best staff on such a case, and they’ll do the very best they can.

    Also glad your kid is coming in from wherever he’s stationed. That will help you out a lot, I know.

    My wife was in ICU for septic shock for weeks, in the hospital for 2 months, doing very now, recovered and out of PT to the point we can travel and enjoy retirement again.

    Keep in touch, we’re all pulling for Leto now!

  147. 147.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @Steve in the ATL:
    It’s only temporary, whether they lose power peacefully or not. They’re mainly in the position they’re in through illegitimate means and that won’t fly forever.

  148. 148.

    J R in WV

    @Avalune:

    Sounds like you have a good community of folks to help you and Leto out, for which I’m glad. When your managers set too work in order to help you out like that, those are good people to work with.

    I was able to spend as much time with my wife in ICU as I could, neighbors fed the critters while I was in town with her, 12-18 hours a day. The nurses in that ICU were mostly ex military medics, so his trauma would have been right up their alley, they had all served with combat troops in the ‘stans, and were great guys, so sharp.

    I would get home, cuddle with the furrballs, crash. Feed them in the morning and head back to the hospital, which is a teaching hospital.

    You take care, now!

  151. 151.

    NotMax

    @Jay

    The permit me to be a little bit more blunt.

    If you can’t be arsed to write grammatically, why should anyone bother with reading it?

  152. 152.

    Jay

    It’s the Intertubes dude,

    Why should anybody be arsed to read anything on the tubes.

    The Tubes is for porn and cat memes.

    Buy hey, I understand pedant’s write emails to their favorite Porn Directors compaining about the dialoge all the time.

    Nobody makes you read me.

  153. 153.

    NotMax

    @Jay

    As that demonstrates an inarguable lack of basic regard toward those with whom you’re attempting communication, I for one shall certainly refrain from doing so in the future.

    If shouting into the void gets you off, by all means have at it.

  154. 154.

    Sloane Ranger

    @Avalune: I must have missed your original post. I’m so sorry to hear about what has happened. It sounds like Leto is moving in the right direction and you are getting support from friends, family and work.

    Stay strong and know you have our love and support.

  157. 157.

    laura

    @Avalune: when my dad was in ICU for weeks, the one thing that made it bearable was a really comfy folding chair-kind of a webbing instead of just metal, and music (west coast cool was his LIFE).
    Medically, we live in an age of miracles and wonder. That Leto was armored up really helps increase survival and healing. The universe will turn to give your family what it needs and as bad as these circumstances are, be on the lookout for brief moments of joy. Wishing you all the strength and Grace to endure this.

  158. 158.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Avalune: Your reports of Leto’s distress reminded me immediately of one of my favorite authors, John Gardner, whose life was cut untimely short while riding his motorcycle. Glad to hear that Leto is on the road back. Best thoughts for the Duke (presuming that’s the source of his nym) & all of House Atreides in this difficult time.

  160. 160.

    Avalune

    @Uncle Cosmo: Lol, yep you got his nym source. Our son is named Paul (Maud dib was likely to get him picked on in school).

    I like Gardner too. MFA in English though don’t study my use of it too hard these days.

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