Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

Conservatism: there are people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

Washington Post Catch and Kill, not noticeably better than the Enquirer’s.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

Do we throw up our hands or do we roll up our sleeves? (hint, door #2)

In my day, never was longer.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

Narcissists are always shocked to discover other people have agency.

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

SCOTUS: It’s not “bribery” unless it comes from the Bribery region of France. Otherwise, it’s merely “sparkling malfeasance”.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

“Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on.”

“The defense has a certain level of trust in defendant that the government does not.”

Jack Smith: “Why did you start campaigning in the middle of my investigation?!”

If you voted for Trump, you don’t get to speak about ethics, morals, or rule of law.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

White supremacy is terrorism.

The revolution will be supervised.

Republicans in disarray!

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Come the revolution, the ersatz ‘rock star’ and his fan the ersatz ‘president’ can get together in their obscurity and keep each other company whining about the fickleness of fame.

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  2. 2.

    germy

    The president ran interference for an ally who brutally slaughtered a journalist and joked about assaulting a reporter. Meet The Press? All Midterm horse race and Anthony Scaramucci.
    Our media has peddled entertainment for so long we’ve lost all concept of what’s important.
    — Jared Yates Sexton (@JYSexton) October 21, 2018

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    So a career garage band guitarist thinks he deserves to be ranked along side Eric Clapton.

    Got it.

  4. 4.

    scav

    Not even going to award a grade P for participation.

    But there is certainly one hell of a choir of white men ululating about how under-appreciated they all are.

  5. 5.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    I ? Corey Ryan Foster. Because as soon as I read David Crosby’s tweet, I said, not until Warren Zevon is in there. And then I scrolled down to read the tweet of Mr. Foster, a kindred spirit.

  7. 7.

    Ken Shabby

    Can’t Ted just be satisfied with being on hunting shows, beating up women and shitting his pants?

    c’mon

    Ted.

  9. 9.

    West of the Rockies

    This pleases me immensely! I take great delight in knowing Nugent is unhappy, resentful, and pissy. He is a crude, stupid man who creates ugliness.

  11. 11.

    Ken Shabby

    Come the revolution, the ersatz ‘rock star’ and his fan the ersatz ‘president’ can get together in their obscurity and keep each other company whining about the fickleness of fame…

    …behind bars, in fun orange suits, except Rump and…..Ted will also be brown.

    Fixt hit for yew.

    Rewind for that behind.

  13. 13.

    germy

    Meanwhile…

    GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) — A Florida park was renamed after iconic rocker Tom Petty, who played at that park as a boy.

    The Gainesville Sun reports that hundreds of members of the Tom Petty Nation! fan club visited Gainesville on Saturday to celebrate the star’s birthday with his music and the dedication of the former Northeast Park as Tom Petty Park.

    His family was also on hand.

    “My brother and I grew up in this park. We played as kids. My cousin reminded me the other day of my remark that it was a sanctuary, and it really was,” said brother Bruce Petty. “It was a place for us to escape and be kids and have fun. The fact that we are doing this today and the part that we played in it makes it so much more special.”

  14. 14.

    Ken Shabby

    “Vulgar?” How does that work into it?“

    Projection. Spontaneous projectile autonomic saving grace.

  15. 15.

    Splitting Image

    According to Ted Nugent himself, he has been in jail since 2012. Shouldn’t that make him ineligible until he is released?

  17. 17.

    LuciaMia

    So the Saudis now have ANOTHER story on how the journalist died. Its like the worst fiction writing contest ever.

  18. 18.

    dmsilev

    @OzarkHillbilly: Depends on what the goals are. If the goal is ‘region erupting in open warfare’, he’s doing well. And unfortunately there does seem to be a reasonable chance that those are the goals.

  32. 32.

    Mo MacArbie

    Surely there’s a place for the Nuge in the HoF. Coat check perhaps, or maybe handing out towels in the men’s room.

  33. 33.

    Another Scott

    @Baud: Speaking of which… My J is at some sort of “Women’s March on the Pentagon” today.

    15 days until (probably) the most consequential election in decades, but, somehow, the Lefty McLeftish types think that marching on the Pentagon (to “Confront the Bi-Partisan War Machine”) is good use of their energy.

    (sigh)

    Cheers,
    Scott.
    (“Who needs to finish his postcards today!!”)

  34. 34.

    Jay

    ”
    After the country announced economic austerity measures in 2015 to offset low oil prices and control a widening budget gap, McKinsey & Company, the consulting firm, measured the public reception of those policies.

    In a nine-page report, a copy of which was obtained by The Times, McKinsey found that the measures received twice as much coverage on Twitter than in the country’s traditional news media or blogs, and that negative sentiment far outweighed positive reactions on social media.

    Three people were driving the conversation on Twitter, the firm found: the writer Khalid al-Alkami; Mr. Abdulaziz, the young dissident living in Canada; and an anonymous user who went by Ahmad.

    After the report was issued, Mr. Alkami was arrested, the human rights group ALQST said. Mr. Abdulaziz said that Saudi government officials imprisoned two of his brothers and hacked his cellphone, an account supported by a researcher at Citizen Lab. Ahmad, the anonymous account, was shut down.”

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/10/today-overcompensated-underachieving-tyranny-supporting-elites

  37. 37.

    James E Powell

    @Splitting Image:

    No, silly. Emails.

    That’s 2016 thinking.

    Right now, it’s some people being mean to Susan Collins and others not inviting Alan Dershowitz to parties.

  38. 38.

    aliasofwestgate

    Of all the musicians spawned here in Michigan, Nugent is one of the ones i dislike the most. Ugh. He’s not remotely worthy of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

  40. 40.

    Mandalay

    @germy:

    All Midterm horse race

    Yep. Headlines on the home page of the NYT right now:

    – Donald Trump’s Perverse Advantage
    – What if the Republicans Win Everything Again?
    – Democrats Need Latinos at the Polls. But Will They Turn Out?

    Not a word on healthcare. Not word on the deficit. Not a word on policies being advanced by Democrats.

    But the concern trolls at the NYT are very concerned about the Democrats failing.

  41. 41.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    Trump starts leaving postal union in latest anti-China move

    President Donald Trump argues that the 144-year-old Universal Post Union benefits China and other countries at the expense of U.S. businesses — making it cheaper to ship packages from Beijing to New York than from San Francisco to the U.S. East coast, which particularly benefits Chinese manufacturers. The officials say the treaty is used by shippers of the narcotic fentanyl to the U.S. from China.

    […]

    The move was welcomed by the U.S National Association of Manufacturers, which called the exiting postal pact “outdated” in the age of e-commerce and at a time of Chinese manufacturing dominance.

    “Manufacturers and manufacturing workers in the United States will greatly benefit from a modernized and far more fair arrangement with China,” Jay Timmons, president of the manufacturers association, said in a statement.

    This might be a problem re: China getting better rates but this is stupidest possible fucking way to deal with it. Timmons is a moron if he thinks the US under Trump is going to get a “modernized and far more fair arrangement” with China. And I question whether the International Postal Union is truly as “outdated” as he claims.

  44. 44.

    Ruckus

    @scav:
    Seemingly the white males doing the most complaining about the under appreciation are the one’s most deserving of the lack of appreciation that they are getting.

  45. 45.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    @Mandalay:

    What if the Republicans Win Everything Again?

    Christ, that’s somehow even worse than the one above it. Define “everything” NYT. The only way at this point (knock on wood) that the GOP could win “everything” would be through widespread election fraud by them to pull that off. If they do that and win, they’ll probably claim some bullshit mandate and go all the way to 11 on Trumpism. A lot of people are already angry. And there’s more of us than there are of them. There will likely be violence as enraged people learn the GOP is unilaterally moving to repeal everything we take for granted in the 21st century United States. They’ll have to resort to shooting protesters to hold onto power. But of course, all that will do is pour gasoline on the fire…

  50. 50.

    Ruckus

    Ted’s not qualified to sweep the floor of the HoF.
    He might be good enough to sleep on ground by the dumpster out back. In January.

  51. 51.

    Amir Khalid

    @Splitting Image:
    In jail since 2012? What he got then was two years probation and a US$10,000 fine for illegally killing a bear, a slap on the wrist for a man of his means. Ted probably considers himself a political martyr because he was punished at all.

  52. 52.

    MazeDancer

    You can’t mock but you can certainly point. And have fun.

    We have just 13 addresses left from our most Lefty Left Liberal Likely Screaming Feminist Dems file.

    These are women who registered as Democrats in 2017 in Hudson, NY. If you don’t know Hudson, just think of it as a teeny-weeney slice of Brooklyn smack dab on the Hudson. Lots of beautiful row houses, groovy restaurants, and antique stores. (And a prison. And drugs.)

    Write to your Sisters that they must get out and Vote on Nov 6th to elect Antonio Delgado.

    Many, many GOP out there in NY-19. Every vote counts.

    And you can enjoy writing that.

    PostCardPatriots.com

  55. 55.

    Dan B

    @debbie: Hanford is a candidate but then it would be a Nugent nightmare name in my state. Yikes! It would probably increase the risk of a catastrophic explosion and release of deadly isotopes.

  57. 57.

    Dan B

    Haven’t seen any mentionof HHS’ plan to define “sex” in Title IX as genitals assigned at birth. They eant to remove civil rights protections for trans and LGBT (they use the word “homosexuals”) because these rights should not have been granted.

    The ACLU plans to sue.

  60. 60.

    Brachiator

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:

    And there’s more of us than there are of them.

    You keep saying this, and it is insufficient. It matters how many people actually come out to vote, and how districts are drawn. And the GOP is aware of this, and do everything they can to tilt things to their advantage. And this is before you consider voter suppression efforts.

    Yeah, there’s more of us. But we have to get out the vote and maximize what advantages we have.

    There will likely be violence as enraged people learn the GOP is unilaterally moving to repeal everything we take for granted in the 21st century United States. They’ll have to resort to shooting protesters to hold onto power. But of course, all that will do is pour gasoline on the fire…

    Be careful what you wish for. Hopefully, we’ve got a long way to go until there is violence in the streets. And there is no guarantee that your street fighting will achieve what you want.

    Right now, and heading into November 6, let’s get out the vote.

  61. 61.

    WaterGirl

    I saw this on BGinChi’s twitter:

    Scott Dworkin
    Verified account
    @funder
    Follow Follow @funder
    More
    BREAKING: Rep Joaquin Castro has called for an investigation into Jared Kushner’s involvement in the Khashoggi cover up. Trump and Kushner likely have known since day 1 Khashoggi was dead, and lied about it. Likely coordinated with the crown prince to cover up Khashoggi’s murder.

  62. 62.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Dan B: Us folks who are the targeted by it are alternating between rage and terror. Because it’s starting to feel like Germany 1934 and the beginning of Gilead.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/21/18005594/trump-administration-transgender-sex-dna-test

    Make no mistake, this is part of a literal five-point plan by the Talibapists — one that the administration and a number of states have already been busy implementing — to eradicate trans and non-binary people from public life, and I don’t mean figuratively. Maybe not camps, although there are those advocated for that, but by using the power of the government to harass us back into the closet, into leaving the country, or into suicide. They really don’t care which.

    Yes, I plan to stand fight for now. But I’ve realized that I need to start seriously looking at exfil plans, just in case. Although the paranoid part of me worries that if I wait too long, my passport will get revoked for “lying” about my gender, in the same way that divorcees were deemed criminals in Gilead (since Gilead didn’t recognize pre-Gilead divorces, making any divorcee who remarried guilty of adulterous). I’m already afraid to get my passport updated — because I don’t look that much like my passport photo — because we’re already hearing about cases where the Passport Office is trying to revoke the gender marker changes of current passport holders, even in cases where the marker was changed years ago.

    If you know any trans or non-binary folks, check up on them today. It’s getting hard to breathe and exist.

  63. 63.

    WaterGirl

    @WaterGirl: And the google tells me that this was todays ago and he walked this back. sigh

    “To be clear, I did not intend to accuse @jaredkushner of orchestrating anything,” Castro tweeted. “Based on press reporting, I’m asking for Congress to open an investigation of whether any US Intelligence was shared with Saudi Arabia that led to political persecution or killing of #Khashoggi.”

    I must have closed the tab I got that from, so I can’t supply a link, but it’s covered on the Daily Bast and elsewhere.

    Please excuse the interruption to normally scheduled programming.

  64. 64.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Dan B: I thought Donald promised that he’d be a better friend of the LGBT community than Hillary. What happened?

  67. 67.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    So what are the true believers like Rush Limbaugh going to do about Twitler wiping out the greatest achievement of St. Ronaldus Maximus?

    Mikhail Gorbachev, who negotiated disarmament deals with Ronald Reagan in the 1980s, called President Trump’s plan to withdraw from one such treaty “not the work of a great mind”

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    Off after this fortifying mug of coffee in a bit to wage battle with lawnus outofcontrolus. With any luck will take under three hours to accomplish.

  73. 73.

    Yutsano

    @NotMax: Not to brag, but I have a nap incoming then dinner with the folks. After that, it’s time to make up the cookie dough for my trip. Cookies will get baked off Tuesday. It’s a system.

  74. 74.

    patroclus

    Here’s just a partial list of those who I think should go into the Hall prior to Ted Nugent: Radiohead; Jethro Tull, Willie Nelson; Roxy Music, the Cure, Judas Priest, Alan Parsons, Todd Rungren, Iron Maiden, Depeche Mode, Wu-Tang Clan, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Doobie Brothers, the Monkees and Procul Harem. There’s more…

  75. 75.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Jay: it may come to that. And it breaks my heart. Not for me as much as for my country. And for my peers who don’t have the privilege I do in order to flee if needed.

    I’m in a bad place today.

  78. 78.

    Jay

    @patroclus:

    Maybe start a GoFundMe to get Ted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, targeted at the Gullabillies,

    Just don’t tell them it is urinal cakes and toilet paper with his face on it.

    And to pay for two activists in Cleveland to put them back every day when Staff removes them.

  79. 79.

    Yutsano

    @Sister Golden Bear:
    *hug*
    I hope for your and all our sakes it won’t come to that. FWIW my ballot will reflect my support for you. And if you need to flee I know people in Vancouver who can help.

  82. 82.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @NotMax:
    Listen, I’m not advocating for this. I’m predicting it, for whatever my prognostications are worth. I don’t want to see people dying in the streets for god’s sake. I was extrapolating from a highly unlikely premise by the NYT anyway.

  88. 88.

    The Moar You Know

    There will likely be violence as enraged people learn the GOP is unilaterally moving to repeal everything we take for granted in the 21st century United States. They’ll have to resort to shooting protesters to hold onto power. But of course, all that will do is pour gasoline on the fire…

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??: And we all know how that movie ends, and it’s not “the nice peaceful leftists win by moral courage”

    We get rounded up, put in camps and slaughtered.

    Better pray it never comes to force of arms. We will lose.

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