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Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: Aren’t They All Just Proud Boyz, Though?

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Per the original story, in the Washington Post:

… In an interview with a website associated with the party, King (R-Iowa) declared that “Western civilization is on the decline,” spoke of the replacement of white Europeans by immigrants and criticized Hungarian American financier George Soros, who has backed liberal groups around the world.

King spoke to the Unzensuriert site Aug. 24 in Vienna, a day after concluding a five-day journey to Jewish and Holocaust historical sites in Poland, including the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp. The trip, including airfare to and from Europe, was financed by From the Depths, an international nonprofit group that seeks to educate lawmakers about the Holocaust.

Unzensuriert, which translates as “Uncensored,” is a publication associated with Austria’s Freedom Party, which was founded by a former Nazi SS officer and is now led by Heinz-Christian Strache, who was active in neo-Nazi circles as a youth. While the party has distanced itself from those connections, it recently embraced a hard-line anti-immigration stance while seeking ties with other far-right parties and leaders abroad.

“What does this diversity bring that we don’t already have?” King said in the interview. “Mexican food, Chinese food, those things — well, that’s fine. But what does it bring that we don’t have that is worth the price? We have a lot of diversity within the U.S. already.”…

In an interview Thursday, King… accused his “political opposition” of “ginning this up” ahead of the Nov. 6 election…

In the earlier interview, King identified Soros as a force behind the “Great Replacement” — a notion promoted by far-right groups — and accused him of surreptitiously influencing U.S. elections and policymaking. “His money floats in in such a way you can’t see the flow,” King said, “but if you trace it back, you can connect it to his foundation.”

The “Great Replacement” theory is a view on the right that white Europeans are being replaced by minorities.

Criticism of Soros, who is Jewish, has frequently carried anti-Semitic overtones, and he is one of several figures linked to the Democratic Party who have been targeted with mail bombs intercepted in the United States this week.

On Thursday, King denounced the bombing attempts but declined to retract his criticism of Soros or acknowledge a possible link to anti-Semitism…

A different interview:

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42Comments

  1. 1.

    Adam L Silverman

    You gotta admire Congressman King’s tradecraft. He managed to get a Holocaust education organization to cover his trip so he could go and hang out with a bunch of neo-NAZIs.

  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    GOP congressman met with a group founded by a Nazi—while on a Holocaust memorial trip

    Now, who could this be? I wonder, I wonder.

    King (R-Iowa)

    Right. I think that was everyone’s first guess.

  4. 4.

    ljt

    Re-posting from dead thread:
    Weird observation…I have been watching replays of Andrew Gillum’s debate last night and just noticed something very strange. On the first clips I watched (including the links here), his tie is clearly purple, which I thought interesting. Now, watching clips on YouTube, from CNN and NBC, his tie appears to be blue. WTF is that about? In all versions DeSantis’ s tie is red. On YouTube, if you search for the debate, the TIME link shows image w/purple tie, but CNN and MSNBC link images clearly show him with blue tie. Why in the world would they intentionally add, in such a f*cking trivial way, to the charge of fake news?

    I don’t recognize or even know how to live in the f*cked-up wonderland we now live in.

  5. 5.

    Duane

    @Adam L Silverman: Proving once more that conservatives are incapable of learning. The Education Camps will be a waste of time. Hard labor in prison then a pauper’s grave are appropriate and fair.

  7. 7.

    NotMax

    Shall include the link only for courtesy’s sake. Really throwing this in to show how much fun the headline writer must have had coming up with this:

                Melania Trump shares intimate moment with Donald Trump wearing tight blue dress

  8. 8.

    NotMax

    FYI.

    · Facebook has been fined £500,000 ($645,000) by the UK’s Information Commissioner’s Office for the Cambridge Analytica data breach.
    · It is the maximum possible fine available to the British watchdog, but would have been much higher had Europe’s GDPR rules been in force when the breach took place.
    · Information Commissioner Elizabeth Denham said Facebook “should have known better and it should have done better.”
    [snip]
    The fine is, of course, tiny in the context of Facebook’s global revenue of more than $40 billion last year. Denham said the penalty would have been much higher had Europe’s GDPR rules been in force. GDPR allows data watchdogs to fine companies up to 4% of their global turnover, which in Facebook’s case would be $1.6 billion. Source

  10. 10.

    TheMightyTrowel

    We’re currently doing lots of yelling down here to keep Gavin McInnes out of Australia – unclear if it will work, but it might. In other Australian right wing news: one of our senators just got booted from his party for his unabashed and extreme racism. The party is pretty bloody racist, but this assclown got up in the Senate and suggested Australia needed a final solution. Also, it turns out the last education minister (a rw party hack with a b-school degree and jug ears) has been secretly and selectively voiding successful research grants for selected humanities projects while also screaming about freedom of speech/opinion on university campuses. In better news, the current govt are so unpopular that the latest bi-election saw the lead coalition party (the Liberals – they’re rw. Australia is the upside down) lose a seat (to a left wing lesbian doctor) they had held since federation (ie, that they had never once lost ever).

    We’re going to have a general election some time before May and it cannot come too soon.

  13. 13.

    NotMax

    Holy cow. 20 billion? (And that’s what has been officially reported, actual costs likely higher.)

    President Xi Jinping opened the long-delayed and over-budget Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau Bridge on Tuesday, billed as a major step forward in China’s plan to turn the Pearl River Delta into a technology hub to rival Silicon Valley.
    [snip]
    Construction on the bridge started nine years ago, and the project was supposed to be completed by 2016. The delays – related to road construction in Hong Kong and the territory’s environmental standards – have helped inflate costs. The last estimate of $20.2bn was released in January.
    [snip]
    Tuesday’s opening has taken many by surprise. Transport operators in Hong Kong expected to have about two months to prepare and were taken aback to discover last week it would be open to the public starting Wednesday. Source

  14. 14.

    Duane

    @Mary G: The tent seems extravagant. They can bootstrap it. Freedom to bust rock,liberty to drink urine, and a government provided grave should be enough.

  15. 15.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    @NotMax: Fun fact I served in Hong Kong 1986-1988 and was involved in a lot of the turnover documentation. I remember the Governor saying to me at that time that we should not be worried about the Chinese takeover of Hong Kong the Chinese should be worried about the Hong Kong takeover of the Chinese, seems to me about right these days.

  16. 16.

    Ivan X

    I just said fuck it what’s money for and donated to the BJ More, plus Stacey Abrams, Katie Hill (CA-25), Bill Nelson, Beto O’Rourke, Andrew Gillum, Tony Evers, Claire McCaskill. I created a throwaway email account just for this purpose because I can’t handle multiple-times-daily mail from 50 candidates and their friends and associations.

    Feels good.

    Did I miss anyone? Apart from the theoretical “every other single Democrat running this year”.

  17. 17.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @TheMightyTrowel:

    A pity you couldn’t fit in the bit about the Liberal Party “It’s OK to be White” vote in the Senate. And it’s subsequent absurd walk back.

    Or that the Liberals are still discussing how to subsidise coal for electricity production while a report came out today warning that the entire Great Barrier Reef is in extreme danger of bleaching and coral death this summer due to sea temperature rises.

    Or how they still refuse to acknowledge Climate Change, but have shifted $5 billion into a slush fund for propping up drought affected farmers (an important part of their voter base).

    As an aside, Phelps is actually a centre right lesbian doctor. She only looks left compared with the rabid nutters currently in power.

    Election Now!!

  19. 19.

    hervevillechaise

    I know I sound unhinged, but does anyone else find the Megyn Kelly situation weird?

    She’s a racist but she’s not stupid; she had to know her views would be unpalatable on non-Faux teevee.

    Something about the whole guaranteed-to-stir-internet-outrage series of events—the gaffe! the apology! hand-wringing over political correctness run amok!—seems so manufactured.

    I almost feel like she’s setting herself up to be a martyr. NBC still has to pay her even if she’s fired, and now she can milk her white victimhood narrative on the wingnut welfare circuit without having the grind of a regular gig.

    Kind of like a Sarah Palin grift, but without the lobotomy.

  21. 21.

    Ninedragonspot

    @Litlebritdifrnt: From the spate of abducted booksellers, expelled journalists, and delisted politicians in HK, I’m not at all sure how you come to that conclusion.

  22. 22.

    gene108

    Tucker’s rant is old hat. Right-wingers have been complaining about reverse racism, ever since the first Affirmative Action program and non-discrimination laws in hiring were introduced 50 years ago.

    White grievance will never die, until everyone else goes back in their place.

  23. 23.

    Sister Golden Bear

    Hate to be Ms. One Note,* but the administration war on trans people is underway.

    In today’s news, in case it wasn’t already clear that they’re trying to eradicate trans people from public life. Not just here. but worldwide.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/24/trump-administration-gender-transgender-united-nations

    At recent meetings of the UN’s Third Committee, which is concerned with “social, humanitarian and cultural” rights, US diplomats have been pushing for the rewriting of general assembly policy statements to remove what the administration argues is vague and politically correct language, reflecting what it sees as an ‘ideology’ of treating gender as an individual choice rather than an unchangeable biological fact.

    *Really, truly, I’d love to post about other things, but right now literally each day is bringing news of yet another attack on us, using the power of the government to erase our existence and push us back into the closet. Canaries, coal mines…

    #WontBeErased #StillFuckingHere

  24. 24.

    Patricia Kayden

    @hervevillechaise: Megyn was always racist. The big question for me is why did NBC hire her in the first place. What did they expect?

    If Megyn milks this situation for money, that’s her business. I’m just glad she’ll no longer be on NBC since she shouldn’t have been hired there given her background.

  25. 25.

    Keith P.

    “Proud Boys” sounds like the dance troupe that Patrick Swayze and Chris Farley formed after their experience trying out for Chippendale’s. They’re proud because of their chaps.

  27. 27.

    Waspuppet

    While the party has distanced itself from those connections, it recently embraced a hard-line anti-immigration stance while seeking ties with other far-right parties and leaders abroad.

    Right. So the party HASN’T actually distanced itself.

  28. 28.

    JPL

    @Patricia Kayden: NBC should keep her on the payroll. Make her report to work and sit in a newly designed windowless office without electricity for 8 hours a day. I did read that she has been in touch with Fox news a few weeks before her latest incident. She might have known what she was doing.

  31. 31.

    Jersey Tomato

    @JPL:

    I disagree. That only encourages laziness. There’s no shame in hard work and I’m sure there are plenty of toilets she could be cleaning to earn that salary.

  34. 34.

    Ohio Mom

    @Sister Golden Bear: Don’t apologize. I can’t keep up with everything on my own — my everyday life on its own is pretty all-consuming before the effort to stay informed even begins.

    Having these small, focused updates from you is my window into the trans world. Without you, I’d be a complete ignoramus on trans issues and the assaults your community is experiencing.

  35. 35.

    Ken Shabby

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    So the Proud Boy on the right is supposed to look better than the one on the left?

    Once your party passes the putch stage, you have to clean up and represent.
    Torches and suppositories for everyone, boys! We’re going all the way to Berlin!

  36. 36.

    Ohio Mom

    This is irrelevant and trivial but as someone who started wearing eyeglasses at age 10 and hasn’t had a waking moment without them perched on my nose since, I am a little tickled that someone deemed sticking glasses on this proud boy would make him appear more responsible and sympathetic.

    Grooming still can’t hide this Proud Boy’s ugly sneer though. Do judges really fall for this sort of ruse? I thought they were a hard boiled and cynical lot.

  37. 37.

    low-tech cyclist

    A caption for that pair of pix of the Proud Boy, pre- and post-cleanup:

    Now you don’t talk so loud
    Now you don’t seem so proud

    There’s a Dylan lyric for just about everything.

  38. 38.

    tokyokie

    @Sister Golden Bear: If the one note that you’re playing is THESE FUCKERS WANT TO KILL ME!, then you should actually feel obligated to sound that note over and over and over. It’s the opposite of the Log Cabin Republicans, whose motto is We Agree With the Entire GOP Platform Except, Perhaps, the Part That Says THESE FUCKERS WANT TO KILL ME!, even though THESE FUCKERS WANT TO KILL ME! would pretty much negate everything in the Republican platform except maybe the end of estate taxes.

  39. 39.

    varmintito

    “I suppose when you do get to your little place on Nantucket Island, I imagine you’re gonna take off that handsome looking SS uniform of yours, ain’t ya? [silence] That’s what I thought. Now that I can’t abide. How about you Utevich, can you abide it? [Utevich, while scalping Herman: Not one damn bit sir.] I mean if I had my way, you’d wear that god damn uniform for the rest of you pecker suckin life. But I’m aware that ain’t practical, at some point you gotta have to take it off. So . . . Ima give you a something you cain’t take off.”

  40. 40.

    JWL

    The eyes of that Proud “Boy” look a bit more focused in the “after” photo, don’t you think? And that suit and tie he’s wearing looks like it came off a corpse whose family could only afford a cardboard box casket. And why do shit-kickers always look surprised when the tables get turned on them? The more spirited “Boys”, of course, will call themselves political martyrs, and roll with that story the rest of their birdbrain lives. At the moment, though, they have far bigger fish to fry, hence the focused look in the eyes of that particuler “Proud” one. He surely realizes that his arrest could hardly have come at a more inopportune time, at least to hear all the fuss about bombs being mailed to the very liberal types he makes sport of kicking the shit out of with his friends. He knows, too, that he’s not simply been busted. No, he’s been busted in NYC., and not in Shitkicker, Oklahoma. That fact would tend to focus anyone’s eyes. I wonder what odds Vegas will give his chances of acquittal at being? 15% sounds about right to me, maybe even less. Sad.

  41. 41.

    C Stars

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: HA!! That was my exact thought! Both are photos of an ugly, morally bereft husk of a human.

    @Sister Golden Bear: I am in denial and haven’t brought myself to have a daytime thought about it or even read beyond the headlines. But its has sunk in somewhere, and I wake up at 2:30 am every morning with this thought in my head, unable to stop thinking it or to breathe because it feels like there are iron bands around my ribcage…here’s where my mind goes:
    Given what they have done with children and families at the border, you know these fuckers would not hesitate to kidnap gender variant kids from their supportive parents/caregivers and adopt them out to Christian nazis. You know that if the GOPs win more ground in the midterms, we are only a few months away from this. Someone tell me I’m wrong about this. We’re living in a nightmare.

  42. 42.

    Matt

    But what does it bring that we don’t have that is worth the price?

    What does letting people like King stay in the country bring us? I’ve got a handy machine to deport them back to 1940s Germany right here – it only *looks* like a wood-chipper, it’s actually a time machine.

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