Trump is about to walk into the Roosevelt Room, insert his tiny pinky fingers into the corners of his butthole-like mouth, stretch his lips, stick out his tongue and shout “OOGA BOOGA” while using his index fingers and thumbs to stretch the raccoon-like white bands of fatty flesh around his beady eyes to make his eyeballs bulge out. I’m not making this up:
President Donald Trump on Thursday will highlight immigration as a “crisis” facing the nation, making remarks from the Roosevelt Room of the White House before he travels to Columbia, Missouri, for another campaign rally, the second of 11 he plans in a last-minute blitz before Election Day on Tuesday.
At the White House, Trump will speak about “the illegal immigration crisis and give an update on border security,” according to White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
The president’s remarks come as he has called for restricting asylum requests, ending birthright citizenship and sending thousands of additional troops to border as a caravan of migrants makes its way toward the United States from Central America.
There is no goddamned illegal immigration “crisis,” of course (and kudos for the scare quotes, ABC News). This is pure racist demagoguery, and it would be laughable if the racist demagogue in question didn’t command a large standing army and have the allegiance of millions of idiot citizens. I’m not streaming the “remarks” here because fuck that guy.
I hope this shit blows up in Trump’s ugly face in a big way, and I think there’s a chance it could, especially in places like Florida, where this kind of absurd performance art underscores the GOP’s racism and xenophobia problems.
Jay
“From the papers, the military is preparing to defend against an “estimated 200 unregulated armed militia members currently operating along the [Southwest Border]. Reported Incidents of unregulated militias stealing National Guard equipment during deployments. They operate under the guise of citizen patrols supporting [Customs and Border Patrol] primarily between [Points of Entry].”
TenguPhule
And now we get to find out if the military is yet another institution that has failed its goddamn oath like the rest of them.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
What did Roosevelt do to deserve that?
TenguPhule
I see Trump is talking about “Tent Cities” for detainment.
So the Concentration Camps will expand beyond children to adults now.
But “we have to keep this government running, AMIRITE?”
Kraux Pas
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
I can’t answer that until I’m sure which one.
TenguPhule
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Leave the comedy to Notmax. You have no innate talent for it.
SenyorDave
I don’t think it will work, IMO it probably will be a net zero. I don’t see that many people are going to listen to this piece of shit (I can’t use shitgibbon anymore because I like gibbons) and say “I wasn’t going to vote Republican before but now I will!”. But I also suspect that it won’t really lose him votes. Hopefully it will motivate an extra percent or two of Hispanics and other POC to vote against him.
There is no bottom with this turd.
The Moar You Know
This is red meat for the base. Problem for them is, the base is a fixed number, and it’s not a majority. He needs idiots and squishes. And a lot of them are figuring out that this is performative bullshit. A lot more of them are seeing that he’s just a damn liar about everything under the sun. It’s too bad the midterms are before taxtime, because once they see what the “tax cuts” have done to them they’ll be burning shit in the streets.
How the caravan bashing translates downticket I do not know, but I don’t think this is very helpful.
TenguPhule
There is no fucking god.
JPL
@SenyorDave: It might convince his base to turnout. What I heard that distressed me is that it could depress the Hispanic vote because they are fearful.
TenguPhule
@The Moar You Know:
I hate to tell you this, but idiots and squishes are the majority in America.
Jay
https://couragetoresist.org/do-not-collaborate/
“Few people actually join the military to travel to distant lands to kill people. Fewer still join to help run concentration camps. Under both US and international law, military personnel have a moral and legal obligation to refuse to comply with any order that involves collaboration with these camps, but unfortunately few are aware of this fact.”
Duane
I’m listening to the rambling, incoherent, lies of a madman that currently occupies the White House. If you removed all the lies, he’d have nothing to say. Another low in our country’s history.
MjOregon
I have asked several times on Twitter just who in hell is financing these “campaign” rallies he goes to, and not gotten an answer. Are the taxpayers footing the bill like we do for his golf jaunts??
I’m so, so sick of this daily horror show…
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Kraux Pas:
It’s apparently named after both.
@TenguPhule:
And I suppose you do?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
MSNBC is fact-checking trump’s remarks before airing them. I should say Nicole Wallace is doing that. I don’t know if it was her personal decision, but I’m pretty confident in saying Chuck Todd, or Andrea Mitchell, wouldn’t do it
cope
I sure hope this plus everything else (emoluments, harassments, racketeering and dog knows what else) blows him and his scowling visage up into cosmic dust. At 68, I just want to live long enough to see that hard rain fall.
TenguPhule
@MjOregon:
Trump’s travel is covered by the federal government. His “election committee” has been active since 1/20/17 and presumably is the source for the rallies themselves.
TenguPhule
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
I have on occasion made the odd commenter laugh.
JPL
So if your power is out, and the outage map informs you that your area requires repair work, that ‘s not good right..
Kraux Pas
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: Oh good, an excuse to talk about the Cuban-American War and WW2!!!
And the latter half of Tengu’s name is phonetically accurate but misspelled.
TenguPhule
Well that’s certainly not ominous at all. //s
TenguPhule
@JPL:
Hope you don’t need A/C to survive for the next day or so.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
there was a poll/story last week– I haven’t even looked for it because my god that was 10,000 stories ago– that Hispanic interest in the election was starting to pick up, I think it was specifically in TX and GA. I hope that story/poll was accurate, and that the research was done before registration deadlines.
I think we’re gonna see one big upset, at least, in this cycle. Either O’Rourke or Abrams. Maybe Bredeson. Maybe all three! Just a hunch, no data.
The Moar You Know
@MjOregon: The taxpayer is on the hook for his travel, lodging and security. Incumbency has tremendous advantages that way.
The rest is chump change. Get the ever-shrinking space needed, venues aren’t that expensive and are probably donated by the local Republicans. The insurance is not cheap, someone is picking up the tab on that. And it costs to get in! 50 bucks a throw, I think, is the going rate for the Hateapalooza. He’s making money on them, I am certain of that.
The only expense I can’t really pin down is insurance. He’s not getting that waived, so someone is footing that bill. Probably the GOP – the party.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
Since worst case scenarios seem to be coming up, I wonder if Operation Inherant Racism is some plot to produce an international incident so Trump can get his war on with Mexico and force them to build him his stupid wall.
Betty Cracker
@SenyorDave: You’re right — there is no bottom. I don’t know for sure that amping up the ooga booga will hurt, but the otherwise pro-Trump Republicans in Florida who are contending for statewide office are running from Trump’s racist demagoguery like scalded dogs. Even DeSantis, the servile Trump sycophant who made the most embarrassing political ad this election season, distanced himself from Trump’s stupid and offensive remarks about Puerto Rico for fear of paying at the polls.
Citizen_X
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Lock up the Japanese?
MjOregon
@TenguPhule:
So we’re footing the bill for Air Force One and all the Secret Service personnel to ferry Buffoon 45 to all these orgasmic love-ins for his base. Oh, excellent.
JPL
@TenguPhule: nope.. Earlier I received notification that there was an electrical fire in the area and then some blinks and whoops..
It should be back later. I have a fully charged nook, so all is good.
TenguPhule
@The Moar You Know:
I’m betting he’s not even bothering with that. Its money he could be stealing.
Ocotillo
11 stops until election day? Remind me again who is filling up the gas tank of AF1 and paying for the rest of the traveling circus to these Klan rallies?
Jay
@MjOregon:
The Trump 2020 Campaign and private donors pay for renting the venues and hiring the paid “crisis actors”,
Federal, State and City taxpayers pay the travel costs and security costs, to the tune of roughly $155K a day.
TenguPhule
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Not going to get very far in Mexico with just ground troops.
TenguPhule
@MjOregon: And technically the federal government is supposed to be billing Trump himself for this since the rallies clearly have nothing to do with federal government responsibilities.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
good lord, sounds like he’s announced the rules of engagement for the ‘caravan’. If they throw rocks, US troops are authorized to shoot. I had to stop typing and read the chyron on MSNBC to make sure I’d heard that right. If they throw rocks, “it will be considered a firearm.”
Have they been throwing rocks?
What the fuck world are we living in?
brantl
@Citizen_X: We have a winner!
TenguPhule
@Betty Cracker: Have you seen that unbelievable new rascist/anti-immigrant ad Trump just launched?
TenguPhule
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Worst possible timeline out of all of them.
Jay
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
There won’t be another Mexican War. The US Military is already tapped out with the 17+ Wars of Choice they are waging.
germy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Maybe he got that idea from Bibi Netenyahoo
gbear
I’m really hoping that the major news orgs will request that they place embedded reporters with the troops on the border.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Kraux Pas:
@Citizen_X:
Mistakes were made. It was only a joke. One I didn’t think through the implications of. Sorry.
TenguPhule
@Kraux Pas:
Just because I kicked your ass in a previous thread is no reason to be rude.
bemused
Fathead is right there is a crisis but it’s the migrants that are in crisis fleeing their countries for their lives.
joel hanes
The campaign rallies double as fundraisers.
He, Trump grifts “campaign contributions” from his believers everywhere he goes. And he’s always campaigning.
As Herman Cain and Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee demonstrated, running for President can be much more remunerative than being President, and campaign contributions are fungible and not well tracked; if you have some left over when you quit campaigning, that’s just gravy.
So Trump is getting paid to do each rally, in a backhanded way, which is how he does everything.
Gelfling 545
@TenguPhule: I hope nobody is holding their breath waiting for reimbursement.
Mnemosyne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
It’s meant to remind right-wing Jews of what the Palestinians do when confronted by the Israeli army. They don’t have guns, so they throw rocks.
He’s basically trying to make the refugees sound as terrifying as possible. All 1K of them, at best. ? Probably more like about 250 total by the time they get to the US border at the end of December.
A Ghost To Most
@TenguPhule:
I vote we imprison the conspirators in a tent city in Death Valley.
TenguPhule
@Jay:
You seem under the mistaken impression that we need a working military to start another war.
Please note, we’d need one to win a war. But not to start one, oh no.
Jay
@gbear:
Shovelling shit out of Border Patrol stables or getting papercuts from clearing up a clerical backlog doesn’t make for gripping TV.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@germy: my first thought, too, TBH, but I dastn’t summon that typing box of poisoned Franzia blush from Virginia
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@TenguPhule:
Why do you hate the troops?
Jay
@TenguPhule:
You are saying the Reconquista will go well?
TenguPhule
@Gelfling 545:
Its thieves all the way down.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@The Moar You Know:
That probably breaks even between the rubes that pay and the paid extras they hire at $50 a pop.
TenguPhule
@Jay:
I welcome our new Mexican overlords and fully expect Taco Trucks on every corner.
Gelfling 545
@TenguPhule: Ok. Both of you just stop it. As a retired middle school teacher I’ve seen enough of this kind of exchange to last beyond my life expectancy. (If you could see my “teacher face” as I write this, you’d tremble in fear!)
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Mnemosyne:
Reminds me of how scared racists are of BLM. It’s like they think thousands of swarthy people are going to be streaming over the border just to kill them in their sleep or something. Newsflash guys: the world doesn’t revolve around you.
TenguPhule
@A Ghost To Most: I could live with that.
TenguPhule
@Gelfling 545:
“But he started it!” //
Gelfling 545
@TenguPhule: AAAARRRRGHHH!
Jay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
It’s $15 an hour, for up to $150 a day if you drive a truck around before and after the rally with a Treason Flag flying.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@TenguPhule:
Well, I think Gelfling wants to end it.
Mr Stagger Lee
@TenguPhule: It’s the RW militias(terrorists) that concerns me
TenguPhule
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Which makes it quite easy for a soldier to open fire and claim “they were throwing rocks!” and pick up one of the rocks on the ground around them as proof.
Because that’s where we are right now.
TenguPhule
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: You have no future in standup comedy.
The Moar You Know
@TenguPhule: Can’t get a venue without one, even if they’re donating that venue to you. Otherwise the owner is on the hook for everything, and their insurer will drop them.
So somebody is certainly paying for insurance.
trollhattan
@Gelfling 545:
Heh. :-)
Are you grading those two on a curve?
TenguPhule
@The Moar You Know:
For Trump this would be a feature, not a bug.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Stateless youth have always fared so well. Putting teens in a position where they can’t work legally or migrate anywhere or obtain educations never results in sexual exploitation or slave labor conditions.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@TenguPhule:
That would be a human rights violation. They can’t do that legally. The international community will not stand for that.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Also, I’m unaware if my paternal great grandparents or maternal great great grandparents were citizens before popping out my ancestors.
Wonder if I count as a citizen?
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@TenguPhule:
I’m funnier than you
TenguPhule
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
How many divisions is the UN willing to send against us?
TenguPhule
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Citizenship will be determined by pigmentation.
jl
This Trump appearance, I’ll skip it and read up later on what happened. I have to take care of myself, blood pressure concerns, etc.
Also, first thing when I have time, I need to catch up on the big Burkman/Wohl presser on their fake Mueller scandal reveal. Sounds like they watched Avenatti and decided to turn it into a frick and frack vaudeville act, except falling-down drunk on lots of ‘shrooms.
Patricia Kayden
Nicole Wallace was just discussing that Trump has said that if the migrants throw rocks, our troops should open fire on them. It’s amazing what Trump gets away with saying out loud.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@TenguPhule:
That’s the Kent State scenario.
Nobody got disciplined for that.
Also, how much time did Calley serve over My Lai?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I wonder if Trump would count as a citizen.
@TenguPhule: Does that cover the Orange-Americans?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Mr Stagger Lee:
We’re at the Brownshirts phase right now.
TenguPhule
@Patricia Kayden:
He’s already moving the goalposts and working the referees. I’m now grimly certain he’s given orders to Mattis that deadly force will be used and Mattis is complying.
jl
@Patricia Kayden: It’s really vile. From what I read, the refugees plan to turn themselves in for lawful processing. Why would they throw rocks? The chances of that, if the US acts in a civilized way, are close to zero. Trump’s bizarre BS is incitement of his base, and malicious provocation of anyone anywhere who might be provoked, and do or say something so the GOP and Trumpsters (which by now is the same thing) can lie about it and turn to their partisan advantage. It’s sick.
Jay
@jl:
Wonkette has the best coverage of the Burkman/Wohl reveal of their Canadian Girlfriend,
Burkman had his fly unzipped the whole time.
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Orange is the new White board.
TenguPhule
@jl:
And there’s the loophole Trump is gonna use.
Ocotillo
This is a first for me, I have always wondered about other commenters saying this but I am in moderation? Help.
jl
@TenguPhule: From what I’ve read, the troops will be stationed too far away from border to shoot at anybody across any border. Trump has no clue what is really happening in real life, where the troops are or what they are doing. Let’s see if their orders change.
Mike in NC
I just started reading “The Apprentice” by Greg Miller. On his first or second day in office, Trump was taken to address a group of CIA employees. He almost immediately strayed from prepared remarks and just started lying and bragging about his business record, the huge crowds at campaign rallies, etc. Miller also notes that Fat Bastard basically doesn’t walk more than a few paces; he always needs a golf cart standing by to whisk him from place to place. That’s probably been the case for the last 20 years or so. This promises to be a very strange and depressing book about a very strange and degenerate individual. Hoping for a blowout next week.
catclub
@MjOregon:
nope, his re-election campaign, which was formed about jan 21, 2017 is paying for them.
jl
@Jay: Thanks, I’ll check out their coverage this evening. Should be a hoot from what I heard on the news. The reporter sounded like he had a hard time keeping a straight face.
TenguPhule
Roger Stone’s story just changed on Russia — again
This is my shocked face. : |
ruemara
@MjOregon: Yes. And it’s currently legal because he’s in campaign mode
Uncle Cosmo
@TenguPhule: Oh happy daze: Fool Versus Fool in a death-of-irony cage match. How ’bout we specify a John Cage match – 273 consecutive sound-bites of silence.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Hell, didn’t Trump send a fleet of ships in one direction and they were headed in the opposite direction?
(You got your Mt. Pinos pics on Wednesday’s OTR.)
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA: He claimed they were going one way when they were going the opposite.
And it was funny. Until he blew the location of two of our nuclear armed submarines.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Thanks in advance for news on pix. I’ll check this evening.
I don’t know what ‘OTR’ is but will not risk BillinGlendaleCA’s ridicule by asking. I’ll figure it out.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mike in NC: Trump believes that we all have a certain finite amount of energy. If you use too much of that energy(via exertion, or exercise) you die. So the golf carts keep him from using that finite supply of energy.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: OTR is ‘On The Road’, a weekday morning series on this here blog.
ETA: There’s some really nice pics of the Wisconsin State Capitol by HinTN in today’s post.
TenguPhule
TenguPhule
Duane
@The Moar You Know: When he held a rally here, it cost the local police 125K. Privatize the profit, socialize the cost. Winning.
TenguPhule
TenguPhule
trollhattan
@TenguPhule:
Isn’t that how Bibi does it? Bibi can do no wrong, so….
TenguPhule
SFAW
@TenguPhule:
From the back of the room: “Name five, you fat fucking liar! Just five! And they all have to be sane, you Traitor!”
Hey, a kid can dream …
TenguPhule
There is literally no lie too petty for Donald Trump to utter.
TenguPhule
@SFAW:
I dream a shoe is thrown at him and manages to hit.
danielx
Right. A caravan of ragged half-starved immigrants weeks or months away is a crisis demanding the deployment of a fucking brigade of troops right away…all of whom could be doing other things.
No, a crisis is a president who says he can override the Constitution with his signature on an executive order. THAT is a crisis.
Jay
https://www.wonkette.com/guess-we-need-15-000-troops-to-save-us-from-these-dancing-caravan-kids
JR
We are approaching the “Champs Du Mars Massacre” stage of our collapse..
SFAW
I am getting powerful tired of the standard “Trump said without evidence” bullshit.
The proper parsing should be “Trump lied XX* times in his speech today. Here are some of the stupider or more racist ones:” then list a couple.
As LBJ said: make him deny it (or prove that there’s any truth in anything he said).
* Where “XX” is a large positive integer
Jay
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/local/immigration/asylum-family/?utm_term=.7fadda9bee54
JoeyJoeJoe
@TenguPhule: I think this is the darkest timeline: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6RbKaLsxS0o
jl
@TenguPhule: “they aren’t accepting Mexico’s offer of asylum.”
That’s a lie. Many are accepting Mexico’s offer, one of the main reasons the size of the caravan still heading towards US is rapidly shrinking.
Trump is throwing everything he can think of against the wall to rile his base. If the media does a halfway decent job on calling all his lies, I think his vile and brainless plan will backfire for the midterms, and very bigly.
TenguPhule
@jl:
Just one little problem.
Uncle Cosmo
@TenguPhule: And you know those sons of bitches will pay someone just across the border (or more likely slip one of their bastards into the crowd) to throw the first rock & duck as the Army hoses down the crowd with .225 rounds.
TS (the original)
@TenguPhule: And do they ever push back & say – “Your first comment about the inauguration was a lie”? – not to mention following up with the rest of his lies.
danielx
@jl:
Right. And pigs might have wings….
lgerard
@TenguPhule:
I find it astonishing that people with all these diseases and medical problems are somehow capable of going on a 1000+ mile hike.
Perhaps we should welcome these new super humans.
Dan B
@TenguPhule: Does Orange@ count as white?
It’s not a cult until all followers have Orange@ cheeks, White@ raccoon eyes, and loooong red ties.
Whe are Trevor Noah or Colbert’s writers doing an Orange@ Zombie skit? Prolly nevah! Too scary.
Jay
@Uncle Cosmo:
The US Military has been involved with Operation Guardian Support since April of this year.
No Asylum seekers have been shot at by the Military,
But a bunch of militia folks have been shot at or arrested, by Border Patrol.
Kraux Pas
@TenguPhule: Ha, ok…
L85NJGT
https://www.fb.org/market-intel/eye-popping-h-2a-figures-posted-in-fy2018
240,000 H-2A farm visas for 2018, primarily for the fruit industry. This is the reality of low cost produce in this country. He’s trying to work up the white nationalist with this bullshit while giving the farm industry every able body it needs. Same deal with the H-2Bs for the service sector. Always CYA with this idiot.
CarolDuhart2
@?BillinGlendaleCA: How does he explain even to himself, those 90 year old soldiers and farmers we sometimes hear about? Those guys burn more energy in a single day than Trump expends all week-maybe all year. Don’t even get me started on construction workers and farmhands.
Trump is just pure evil-and lazy.
Steve in the ATL
@CarolDuhart2: or jimmy carter
?BillinGlendaleCA
@CarolDuhart2: Obviously they had golf carts. //
@Steve in the ATL: Golf Carts.
debbie
@lgerard:
Especially the ones cleverly disguised as women and children!
theflix
FWIW I don’t think ABC put scare quotes around “crisis”; they’re using them to attribute the word as a direct quotation from Trump.
Jay
@L85NJGT:
ICE raids are ensuring that many of those visa’s will never be filled.
trollhattan
@L85NJGT:
I have yet to hear from a Trump-voting farmer that they’ve changed their allegiance, even with the sales-killing tariffs and running off their workforce. Still waiting for that Trump Magic, I guess.
Kraux Pas
@trollhattan:
If such a person existed, do you think they’d want to report on him/her? They’re not done interviewing loyal Trump voters yet.
Martin
California will keep sitting over here, marinating in our blueness, with out millions of immigrants and 5th largest economy in the world status, giving y’all the finger.
@L85NJGT: It’s actually not related to low cost produce. It’s related to produce, period. Farm wages in Napa average over $40K, and often include benefits. A lot of these jobs aren’t unskilled. Knowing how to prune fruit trees, and do it quickly and effectively takes a fair bit of time to learn. Tying grapes and selecting and harvesting other crops isn’t easy. The easy work has been automated. Hard labor tasks are good for automation, smart labor tasks aren’t so easy. One of the big farm labor companies in the state pays $19 for entry level and they’ve never had a white, US born person apply for one of those jobs. Many farms here are moving to Mexico simply because they can get labor there.
NotMax
Has anyone checked lately to see if the plaque has been changed by executive order?
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!I lift my sacred rifle, you whom I abhor!”
Jay C
And speaking of Florida: I read today that our Idiot-Asshole-in-Chief weighed in on the state’s gubernatorial race with the observation that if Andrew Gillum is elected, he will “turn Florida into Venezuela”.
And, since I also read that even the most pessimistic of Gillum’s polls give him a six-point lead, I’m guessing Trump’s endorsements have had their usual positive effects (for Democrats)…
CarolDuhart2
@CarolDuhart2: Yes, they are retired, but even in retirement many of these men do light chores, work around the farm, walk miles on a hunting trip, chop wood and what not. They still burn more energy than Trump does in a week. My construction worker dad would probably have continued to work in his garden and run errands if he hadn’t died at 72. A surprising number of older men are active until they are in their 80’s or 90’s.
Frankensteinbeck
@TenguPhule:
Then thank God that you’re running almost 0% on your doomsaying predictions so far.
Jay
@trollhattan:
The goal of the Cletus Safari’s is to find Cletusii who despite personal losses and layoffs, are still a Cletus enough to support Dolt 45.
They arn’t there to do actual reporting.
TS (the original)
trump wants a war – (new) wars (before they are lost) win elections, regardless of party. So not having a war of merit he dreams up an attack on a thousand poor, barefoot, deprived immigrants seeking refuge from unbelievable poverty.
This is the president* and every last democrat should be calling it what it is – trumps war of diminishing returns.
CarolDuhart2
@Martin: White, U.S born people have more options than to work in the hot fields. Besides that, the children of those farmers don’t want to stay in town where it’s boring and there are few jobs anyway. Migrant workers don’t mind staying for a short time and going away in a town with few amenities.
J R in WV
I’m beginning to feel optimistic about this election we’re in now. The Trumpian commercials are so ridiculous, his lies are so obvious, normal people aren’t gonna fall for that BS anymore.
I think we’re going to win in GA and FL and maybe even in TX. I suspect we will turn the Senate as well. I have champagne in case we win at all, and more if we win the Senate too. Friend at the wine and cheese shop told me today that last election he chugged a bottle of champagne and curled up deep under the covers. I was at least that bad. It was awful.
But I had a sinking feeling last election. This year things seem to be turning around. Dawg knows we’ve donated enough, Ouch! so much donated, but all for good causes — democratic candidates!
dopey-o
@TenguPhule:
If he is self-insuring, that money goes straight into his bank account. So there’s another revenue stream.
raven
@CarolDuhart2: “90 year old soldiers”? I don’t think so.
Gravenstone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Sounds like one of his enablers has been studying up on the Intifada and the Israeli responses. Let the war crimes roll!
Steve in the ATL
@CarolDuhart2:
It’s true! And once I got my history degree, I had the option of either going to law school or coaching high school football.
CarolDuhart2
@raven: I’m not talking about active duty soldiers. I was thinking about guys who for 20-30 years burned up a ton of energy soldiering, then maybe a few more years as a guard somewhere. How come those folks don’t universally die early from all the exertion? (Maybe stress, but that’s another matter). But we find 90 and even 100 year old vets who survived war zones with their tremendous exertion.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Steve in the ATL:
And you had to go to the dark side.
Brachiator
It’s weird. Trump has been talking shit about immigration restrictions since he started running for president.
But I half-wonder why he decided to hit hard on the birthright citizenship thing now. Yeah, I see the obvious, that he is trying to rally his base for the midterms. But I wonder if there is any other reason rattling around in his twisted mind.
@TenguPhule:
Colbert or another comedian showed a clip of some Trump supporting nutjob claiming that people in the caravan had smallpox. Smallpox, of course, has been eradicated all over the planet.
It is crazy to see a president lie so much and pander so hard to fear and bigotry. It’s becoming nonstop bullshit.
Martin
@CarolDuhart2: Agreed. However, it’s hard to argue that immigrants are taking jobs away from people that, as a class, have never applied for.
WaterGirl
On a happy note, TaMara’s Bunny Society was one of the top 5 vote winners, and is getting $1,000. I’m sure TaMara will make a format announcement, but I wanted to thank everyone who voted in response to the reminders. Go Balloon Juice —
we can walk and chew gum at the same time!we can donate $350,000 to democratic candidates, write a zillion postcards, and help save some bunnies.raven
@CarolDuhart2: Well that’s a dumb idea in the first place but you know that. You extend life by exertion.
L85NJGT
@Martin:
Interesting read about rural Iowa. Just old folks, and no young cohorts behind them. MAGA! on about the good old days, but when there is no labor pool, no one is bringing a plant to town.
Schlemazel
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I take it you don’t know many high school coaches
Gravenstone
Never mind.
/Litella
raven
@Gravenstone: Yea, they are called veterans.
TenguPhule
@Frankensteinbeck:
You mean the slowly escalating civil war I called last year and is now being recognized as in progress right now?
TenguPhule
@J R in WV:
Yes, but we still need a majority.
TenguPhule
@Steve in the ATL:
So you picked the lighter shade of grey?
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
What, he got an MBA?
TenguPhule
@Brachiator:
Having seen how little real opposition to his crazy ideas he’s gotten so far, Trump has decided he has nothing to lose by doubling down.
The Thin Black Duke
Y’know, I didn’t miss TP at all.
Martin
@L85NJGT: Exactly. And with no young people, there’s no introduction of new skills. And mind you, you don’t need to keep your young people captive, instead, you can build a university, attract them there, and the jobs will follow.
⅓ of the nation’s private sector R&D spending goes to CA, and the vast majority of that money goes to areas that are either spun out of CA universities or are closely affiliated with them. CA gets 75x the R&D spending that Iowa gets. 7x that of Texas. $75B per year (that’s a lot of jobs). ⅔ of the green tech funding nationally goes to CA. That happens because we’re driving the regulations nationally, and because we have more university students than Iowa has people. CA confers 100K science and engineering degrees every year. That’s a LOT of startup labor, and we punch 3x-5x higher than we should given our population.
WaterGirl
@The Thin Black Duke: TP?
edit: First I thought you meant toilet paper. You mean TenguPhule?
I had him pied for forever and then my pie filter went blank and I lost everyone on the list. I just added him back in.
The Thin Black Duke
@WaterGirl: TenguPhule. It was gone for a while, now it’s back, and as boring as ever.
WaterGirl
@The Thin Black Duke: see my edit :-)
The Thin Black Duke
@WaterGirl: I just did. And you’re right, pie is delicious.
WaterGirl
@The Thin Black Duke: Did you see Cole say the other day that he is looking to trim down some of the front pagers that don’t post much and add a couple of new front pagers who aren’t white males?
I have no idea what kind of front pager you would make or if you would even be interested, but I always enjoy your perspective and I think you might resemble Cole’s remark. Just wanted to be sure you had seen that. (Apologies if I am mistaken.)
Ryan
“especially in places like Florida, where this kind of absurd performance art underscores the GOP’s racism and xenophobia problems. ”
And, where I imagine, a lot of displaced persons relocated to due to the failed response to a crisis.
TenguPhule
@WaterGirl:
Balloon Juice has enough assholes below fold, it doesn’t need any posting regularly.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Schlemazel: No, but I do know a lot of lawyers.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule: No, a JD. Then again, the Mittster and Jared have both a JD and a MBA.
J R in WV
@TenguPhule:
Dude, you are walking on really thin pie crust! ! ! !!!
Redshift
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Apparently a couple of Mexican soldiers had rocks tossed at them. This was reported on Fox as “serious injuries,” so naturally the bigot-in-chief thanks that as gospel, as declares our guys will shoot on sight.
Amir Khalid
@Jay:
I think the plural of Cletus should be Cleti. Cletii would be the plural of Cletius.
Ladyraxterinok
@Martin: IowaStatevand the U of Iowa have benn excellent universities. In the last decade or so, however, the anti-intellectual forces in the legislature have been less and less willing to support the unversities adequately. One argument I read in the 80s when I still lived in Ames was ‘why should we support the schools when a lot of the students are from out-of-state?’ In that climate no one felt like bragging about the numbers of international students enrolled in the STEM programs.
noncarborundum
@Amir Khalid:
If it’s second declension, then cleti. If fourth declension, then the plural is also cletus, but with a long ‘u’ (not usually indicated in writing). It’s probably second, though; I’m not aware of any proper nouns in the 4th declension.
</Latin pedant>
Edit: there’s also a scattering of -us nouns in the 3rd declension, but again, no names that I’m aware of.
</even more Latin pedant>
West of the Rockies
@TenguPhule:
Can it be old Ban Lanier’s sweaty size 23?
West of the Rockies
@West of the Rockies:
Bob, family, not Ban. Also, size 22. I just checked.
James E Powell
@Steve in the ATL:
Clearly, you overlooked the many opportunities in multi-level marketing.
VOR
@Ladyraxterinok: the out of state and international students pay much higher tuition than the in-state students.
Brachiator
@Ladyraxterinok:
So, let’s see. Create schools that are so good, that out of state students want to attend, and then see this as a bad thing? Wow.
Vor
@Brachiator: and some percentage of the out of state students will wind up staying, bringing new talent to the state.