Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

Giving in to doom is how authoritarians win.

Balloon Juice, where there is always someone who will say you’re doing it wrong.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

If you voted for Trump, you don’t get to speak about ethics, morals, or rule of law.

Republican speaker of the house Mike Johnson is the bland and smiling face of evil.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

After dobbs, women are no longer free.

“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

I might just take the rest of the day off and do even more nothing than usual.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

“Facilitate” is an active verb, not a weasel word.

Trump’s cabinet: like a magic 8 ball that only gives wrong answers.

People really shouldn’t expect the government to help after they watched the GOP drown it in a bathtub.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

Radicalized white males who support Trump are pitching a tent in the abyss.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

We will not go back.

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On the one hand, I am once again very, very glad that Twitter didn’t exist when I was 20 years old. On the other hand, even then, I had a much better grasp of my own limitations.

Even Jonah ‘Doughy Pantload’ Goldberg got to kick Wohl around — in the National Review, no less!

… It’s like Wohl is in his own Choose Your Own Adventure book, and every direction he goes leads him to a room where he has to punch himself in the crotch, while women he never dated point and laugh. No wonder this guy was Gateway Pundit’s ace reporter…

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  5. 5.

    Gin & Tonic

    Is this an Andy Kaufman routine or something? It’s biologically impossible to be this stupid.

  10. 10.

    Uncle Cosmo

    … It’s like Wohl is in his own Choose Your Own Adventure book, and every direction he goes leads him to a room where he has to punch himself in the crotch, while women he never dated point and laugh.

    First time Spawn-of-Evil-Lucianne has actually got me to LOL. I’ll give him that.

  12. 12.

    BruceFromOhio

    …and every direction he goes leads him to a room where he has to punch himself in the crotch, while women he never dated point and laugh.

    It’s always projection with these fools.

  14. 14.

    Ruckus

    @Gin & Tonic:
    No, no it’s not.
    There are too many fine examples of humans with the sense of a ball of lint from the dryer. JW is only another in a long line.
    Never forget that some people take an entire lifetime to learn not to do stupid things. Alas many of them find out only at the last second what crossing the line from stupid to past stupid is. For many it follows just after the line “Hold my beer!” followed very shortly thereafter with a nice kersplat.

  16. 16.

    Mike in NC

    @TenguPhule: Saw an article where Asshole Jr. was stumping for GOP candidates with his ex-FOXbot girlfriend (the ugly divorce with the mother of his five children — how Trumpian! — is dragging out). He is seriously considering going into politics, and is attempting to start a cult of personality like Fat Bastard himself enjoys.

  17. 17.

    Adam L Silverman

    @TenguPhule: That’s because CBP isn’t the military. They are Federal law enforcement. And while I’d argue, I think quite rightly, that this is very inappropriate, especially given that the caravan is a couple of months away, it has nothing to do with the military.

  18. 18.

    BruceFromOhio

    @Adam L Silverman: MrsFromOhio and I had to witness some legal stuff in the family business, and the very nice public notary lady asked us to raise a hand and solemnly swear to something. MrsFromOhio said that, the notary lady just looked at her like she had grown a third eye, and I just about keeled over trying not to laugh. We finished the transaction and got the hell out of there before someone changed their mind.

    I like this Charles Seife guy, he sounds like he would fit in well around here.

  22. 22.

    Mnemosyne

    Ugh. Stupid election-related stress and lack of sleep means that I have pleurisy again. This sucks.

    Short version: pleurisy is when the lining between your lungs and your ribcage gets inflamed and your lung starts scraping against the inside of your ribs. It’s usually caused by a viral infection. It’s annoying and somewhat painful but usually not dangerous in and of itself. But it sucks. I only get it when I’m both stressed out and physically run down, which is why I blame fucking Trump and the asaholes who enable him.

  23. 23.

    ArchTeryx

    @schrodingers_cat: I was just howling at it myself. The dry sarcasm and black comedy was worthy of Blackadder-era Rowan Atkinson.

    (And I’m going to shamelessly steal “dimwitted fuckmuppet dudebrah”).

  24. 24.

    satby

    That graph and explanation are so gratifying. A nice accompaniment to my glass of homemade hard cider.

    I had missed a lot of the kind feedback on my former office manager’s response to my coming back as a fill in. Thanks to all of you. I simply told her I had offered Monday’s and Wednesdays only as my availability so Friday wouldn’t work. She apologized and is changing it, she said Wednesday was probably a better day for me to fill in anyway.
    And though she’s a terrible manager, I don’t think she did that consciously to be malicious; she’s soon to have her 74(!) birthday and some physical and cognitive decline is starting to manifest. A new young woman is being trained to become a new manager I heard.
    And the doctor is a casual long term friend (a very sweet, completely non-confrontational friend), so I’m going to help but only as few days as necessary.
    Bedides, I still get a discount on glasses now, and the extra $$ will let me use it ?. So thanks everyone who weighed in!

  25. 25.

    TenguPhule

    @Adam L Silverman:

    it has nothing to do with the military.

    What would you like to bet that they’re gonna be identified as military anyway with all that war gear on?

    I mean, JFC they have surplus army uniforms and $40 million in military equipment. And unlike the actual military, these folks have no “do not fire on unarmed folks because its against the military code of justice and is also a bad thing” training.

  26. 26.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Ruckus: Many years ago I decided that I did not want my last thought on earth to be “Well, that was stupid”. I don’t think I was ever in the Florida Man league of stupid, but that resolution has definitely kept me from doing some things I might otherwise have done.

  28. 28.

    Ruckus

    @ArchTeryx:
    I agree.
    Popehat isn’t always funny but he does hit the mark far more often than not.
    Maybe one has to be a sarcastic SOB to get it.

  31. 31.

    satby

    Oh! And those of you who contributed to my group’s last bleg for Miss Clarabelle? She went to her forever home yesterday and she and her human were just so adorably smitten with each other. It was wonderful, and you guys made it happen by helping her get her tumor removed.
    And I still owe a few people thank yous, they’re going out this week.

  32. 32.

    Marcopolo

    Knocked my final 100 doors today in intermittent 50 degree rain. In a few hours I will drive around and place a couple signs at each of 14 polling places in my suburb of St Louis. Then hopefully not fitfull sleep & I start an all day Election Protection shift at a local polling place. The upside of leaving it all in the field is not having a lot of time or energy to worry!

    I will be going to at least one watch party tomorrow night so let’s bring this thing home!

    As for Wohl, I do not think he will have a very good time in prison.

  36. 36.

    Wapiti

    @TenguPhule: I think it’s like when the FBI used snipers with shoot-to-kill orders against the Weavers (Bill Clinton era?). That was never mistaken to be a military operation; it was out-of-control law enforcement.

  38. 38.

    Mary G

    Somebody named William Legate on Twitter posted a threatening phone call from Jacob’s dad, saying if he didn’t take down his tweets (no idea what they are) he would be sued. He kept calling him Billy, as an intimidation tool, I guess. You can imagine the response.

  40. 40.

    Anne Laurie

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Is the popehat person supposed to funny. His humor totally escapes me.

    It’s a very — dare I say it? — British-derived form of humor, for sure.

    Apart from enjoying his stuff myself, I try to avoid the infamous Epistemic Closure. And now that Dave Weigel’s crawled so far up the Cosplay Socialists’ collective rectum, Mr. Popehat is my at-one-remove peephole into the Reason / small-l libertarian internet.

  42. 42.

    TenguPhule

    @Adam L Silverman:

    That’s the impression they’re trying to give. But that’s not the military’s fault.

    Didn’t say it was. I’m saying they’re gonna be blamed anyway because our media is easily distracted and the citizens are mostly not paying attention to the finer details.

  45. 45.

    ArchTeryx

    @Ruckus: It helps that I write for pleasure, my characters tend to be smart and just as sarcastic as they are smart. In my novel, the two leads are CONSTANTLY battling wits with one another because its fun, at least until one of them “wins” and gets a boot in the butt by the other.

    A straight man gets introduced later, which just doubles the fun. Now they can play off HIM.

  46. 46.

    Ruckus

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:
    Don’t know that I ever had that moment but I’ve seen some absolutely stupid things that showed zero forethought, and really none afterwards either. And that doesn’t mean that I’ve never done anything that others would consider less than smart. My first week on the ship I served 2 yrs on I had to climb out the yardarm. This is a beam that runs perpendicular to the ship that is the widest part of the ship and is about 60 ft off the deck. Had no safety harness, just a rope that I tied around my waist. It was also an aluminum mast and the yardarm was aluminum welded to that. That might not mean anything but aluminum in salt air=corrosion. Corrosion means a loss of strength. Going out over water side wasn’t too bad, the water is only about 6-7 below the deck at that point, at least you have a chance to fall into the water. On the other side the pier is only about 55 ft away so at least you have time to scream on the way down. Fun times.

  48. 48.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Anne Laurie: I like British humor, whether it be of the Life of Brian or the Yes Minister variety. These last two years have been gut wrenching and particularly hard on people I know personally. I find nothing funny about it. YMMV.
    Popehat just seems mean and snarky. YMMV.

  49. 49.

    TenguPhule

    Trump’s Fed bashing is wrong. But should the Fed be entirely independent?

    Sigh. File under “Trump demanding that black folks be marched into ovens is wrong, but should we consider branding serial numbers on them anyway?”

  52. 52.

    TS (the original)

    So your election day is our biggest horse race of the year day. Being it’s now almost midday Tuesday 6th in my part of the world – out for lunch with a group of people – ONE of whom is the only trump supporter I know. He has been told not to spread his lies anywhere near me, so after a few wines the conversation could get interesting.

  56. 56.

    Platonailedit

    The ordinary people making the world more right-wing.

    Around the world, conservative groups have been gaining influence, bolstering the power of right-wing leaders. It is a trend driven not only by older generations but also by the young.

    The rapid rise of Brazil’s new far-right leader Jair Bolsonaro may have surprised some observers but it did not come out of thin air. His success follows years of support from powerful social movements.

    Such groups have increasingly found a voice in countries from Poland to Thailand to India – their influence coming from ordinary people rather than politicians.

    Their rise is a crucial part of the turn towards more conservative politics in many countries around the world over the past few years.

    For years, civil society has tended to be seen as liberal: supportive of human rights, democratic reform and the protection of minorities. Often, it is still these “progressive” causes that appeal to younger activists.

    But today, civil society involves an increasingly diverse mix of people and political goals, with those on the right gaining traction.

  58. 58.

    TenguPhule

    Without evidence, Trump and Sessions warn of voter fraud in Tuesday’s elections

    Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Monday issued strong warnings about the threat of voter fraud in Tuesday’s elections, echoing the president’s baseless claims that massive voter fraud marred his 2016 election and prompting accusations that his administration is trying to intimidate voters.

    In a tweet early Monday, Trump said that law enforcement has been “strongly notified” to watch for “ILLEGAL VOTING.” He promised that anyone caught voting improperly would be subjected to “Maximum Criminal Penalties.” Sessions, in a statement laying out the Justice Department’s plans to monitor ballot access on Election Day, said “fraud in the voting process will not be tolerated. Fraud also corrupts the integrity of the ballot.”

    In remarks to reporters on his way to a campaign rally in Cleveland, Trump also falsely claimed that voter fraud is commonplace.

    “Just take a look,” he said. “All you have to do is go around, take a look at what’s happened over the years, and you’ll see. There are a lot of people — a lot of people — my opinion, and based on proof — that try and get in illegally and actually vote illegally. So we just want to let them know that there will be prosecutions at the highest level.”

    There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the United States.

  59. 59.

    lamh36

    Evening BJ!

    Glad to have night class tomorrow. That way I won’t be obsessively watching the returns tomorrrow. Class ends late.

  63. 63.

    Redshift

    I’ve done my canvassing for the (extended) weekend, got my volunteers lined up for my polling place tomorrow. I just need to look over my box of paperwork and sample ballots, load up the car with my table and some rain protection for everything, put up the signs, and then try to make myself go to bed early for the one day of the year I get up before dawn.

    Bonus this year – the victory party is closer to home, and at a hotel where there isn’t nightmarish traffic!

  66. 66.

    Anne Laurie

    @A Ghost To Most:

    I’d much rather go that way than in a bed

    Requisite: “I’d rather die peacefully in my sleep, like my granpa — not screaming in terror, like his passengers!”

  67. 67.

    Jay

    “White supremacy will not diminish over time or come to a natural halt. It will not give ground quietly or respect institutions. Those institutions are conveniently cast as foundational when they promote the interests of white supremacy and meaningless when they do not. Negotiation is futile because white supremacy does not negotiate in good faith. The violence is part of the attraction, and it views entire classes of people as unworthy of mourning. It will not bend to hear other voices, because the entire point of the philosophy is that only one group of people has voices worth hearing.

    […]

    This is what the GOP has offered the country as we approach one of the most consequential midterm elections in American history. Republicans do not pretend to have a list of meaningful policies that they will pass to the benefit of every citizen. They do not campaign on their supposed accomplishments during the past two years. They do not tender olive branches or seek compromise with citizens who disagree with their vision. Instead, the GOP promises an escalation of white supremacy and support for Trump’s every depravity, no matter how unlawful.

    […]

    The Republican Party has abandoned a closing argument for a primal scream. But it does not have to work.”

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-republicans-white-supremacy_us_5bdf3814e4b01ffb1d033a4f

  70. 70.

    Redshift

    @TenguPhule: That headline is better than most, but it still falls short. The real story there is that Trump and Sessions are abusing their offices to practice voter intimidation. Putting out messages saying “you might get arrested if you go to vote” is a well established way of discouraging people who are more likely to be arrested from voting, and it’s not subtle.

  71. 71.

    Marcopolo

    @Mary G: Thanks for the thanks & thanks back @ you & to everyone else here who has chipped in this year. As someone once said, it takes a village (of Jackals). Obviously the biggest motivator for me is a firm belief this is an existential election. I think I also felt a little guilty I did not do as much as I could have in 2016. But what really got me hitting on all cylinders was finding a great group of St Louis resisters (Indivisible St Louis founded & run by three incredible women) to work with and meeting and working for/with some truly exceptional candidates. I can only hope the stars align like this every couple of years.

  74. 74.

    guachi

    Because I like numbers I was looking at the latest estimates from 538 and Ds have a >50% chance in 227 districts.

    A -1 point change and the Democrats are ahead in 217 districts.

    If you boost the D candidates by 1 point and reduce the R candidate by 1 point the Democrats are ahead in 239 districts.

    A 2 point change and the Democrats are ahead in 248 districts.

  75. 75.

    Marcopolo

    @TenguPhule: Because he has been talking to Rebecca Traister, who is incredible, about women & the resistance this year. Though now she’s done I do have something I need to do for the next however many minutes Moore will be on :).

  76. 76.

    skerry

    Trump tweet: There is only one way to stop this Democrat-Led assault on our sovereignty – you have to VOTE Republican TOMORROW! Polling locations: http://Vote.GOP

    WTF?

  77. 77.

    Platonailedit

    Trump advisers are bracing for Mueller to deliver the results of his investigation as early as Wednesday.

    Sources tell VF that besides Trump, Roger Stone and Don Jr. have the most exposure. "I'm very worried about Don Jr.," said an ex-West Wing official.

    https://t.co/HgXGUpnq87— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 6, 2018

    Fingers crossed.

  82. 82.

    Mnemosyne

    @Doug R:

    There are lots of potential causes, but a viral infection is the most common and least serious. I’ve had an annoying low-grade sinus infection for a while, so that’s probably the origin of it.

    One of the classic ways to see if it’s pleurisy is to lay on the affected side and see if the pain lessens. It did, so it’s probably pleurisy.

  84. 84.

    japa21

    Just got back from setting up the precinct I will be a judge in tomorrow. Located in the NW Chicago suburbs in the Land Beyond O’Hare. Start at 5 AM tomorrow and won’t end until 9 PM or after so going to be a long day. Also, won’t really have a chance to check in. When I worked in 2016 I was happily moving along then I checked here as we closed the shop down. Needless to say, my good mood was totally destroyed rather quickly.

    I decided I won’t check anything until I get home this year. If we get any slow periods I might check in during the day, but probably won’t.

    A reminder again to those voting tomorrow. Say “Thank you” to the poll workers. Most are putting in a 16 hour day or more for minimal pay when figured on an hourly basis.

    Also regarding Trump’s call for law enforcement to be on guard for fraud. At least in Cook County, law enforcement people are only allowed in the actual voting area of there is a major disturbance that requires their presence. Otherwise they cannot come into the building where the voting takes place.

  91. 91.

    Amir Khalid

    @laura:
    There’s a whiff of Spinal Tap (the band) about them sometimes, especially Axl, but there’s no denying they’re a great rock’n’roll band.

  95. 95.

    Amir Khalid

    @japa21:

    At least in Cook County, law enforcement people are only allowed in the actual voting area of there is a major disturbance that requires their presence. Otherwise they cannot come into the building where the voting takes place.

    They are allowed in to vote, right? (Just asking.)

  96. 96.

    japa21

    @Amir Khalid: Nah, we don’t allow them to vote. Actually they can come in to vote both have to leave right away.

    @RAVEN: I know many people who would contest that statement. Not that I would be one of them.

  98. 98.

    Platonailedit

    BREAKING: A new CNN poll has been released, conducted by SSRS:

    Approve 39%

    Disapprove 55%

    Dear Trump, supporters. You are in the overwhelming minority.

    — Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) November 5, 2018

  101. 101.

    frosty

    @Redshift:

    I’ve done my canvassing for the (extended) weekend…

    I’ve got two more shifts tomorrow. 2:00 PM for Jess King in my new PA-11 district because I’d like to have a Rep I respect, then 5:00 for George Scott in PA-10 so I can send my former Tea Party rep Scott Perry packing. Then hit the County Dem’s election watch party to celebrate or commiserate with like-minded people. Hoping for the best!

  102. 102.

    Amir Khalid

    @RAVEN:
    The only Villa Park I have ever heard of is a football stadium in Birmingham, England, home ground of Aston Villa FC.

  109. 109.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Richard M. Nixon @ dick_nixon
    I know what it is to lose. I know it hurts. I didn’t wish pain on Hubert. I didn’t wish the pain on McGovern. But by God do I look forward to seeing Scott Walker crushed like an ant.

  110. 110.

    laura

    @Amir Khalid: and they’re on the road and heading to Jakarta…..so if you’ve ever wanted to see a show, please just say so…
    Brother the elder usually does their introduction and inadvertantly opened with “Hello Sydney” at Melbourne with 30 of his wife’s family and friends in attendance. He will, of course, never live it down.

  112. 112.

    Platonailedit

    @Amir Khalid:

    Rethugs start with a floor of about 40% is well known. The totus thug hasn’t been able to move it beyond that threshold, despite the 24×7 media ass kissing/covering for him, is a positive to take.

  113. 113.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    Then: Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton Is “more dangerous” than Donald Trump; “we’ll be in Iran in two seconds”

    Now: “Trump Reimposes Harsh Sanctions on Iran”

    HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCOOOOOONODE!

  116. 116.

    Platonailedit

    Hey, you know what else is illegal?

    Any effort to "intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote." (18 U.S.C. 594).

    Don't you think you've gotten yourself in enough trouble, already?

    https://t.co/6ofVE6pWmb— Ronald Klain (@RonaldKlain) November 5, 2018

  117. 117.

    Adam L Silverman

  118. 118.

    Kay

    @TenguPhule:

    in a statement laying out the Justice Department’s plans to monitor ballot access on Election Day,

    If they start bothering voters we should tell them to get lost. Don’t bug us, assholes. We’re busy. Busy firing you.

    Can’t they find something productive and useful to do? Bring the pollworkers donuts and coffee and then beat it. No one wants them nosing around.

  119. 119.

    J R in WV

    @Ruckus:

    I was over the side on a bosun’s chair or a stage many times, but never had to go aloft, ever. Very little work done aloft on my ship when I was on board. Thank Dawg!!

  120. 120.

    Amir Khalid

    @laura:
    Some years ago, Bruce Springsteen greeted an audience with a rousing “Hello, Ohio!” A few songs into the show, Steve van Zandt came over and whispered to him, “We’re in Michigan.”

  121. 121.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ Rocks the Box Office with $50 Million Debut
    by Brad Brevet

    November 4, 2018

    For the first time since early February the top three films at the weekend box office were all new releases and leading the way was Fox’s Bohemian Rhapsody with a $50 million, chart-topping performance, well above expectations.

    The film’s “A” CinemaScore is a great sign looking ahead as there is little in the way of direct competition over the next month or so. The film played to an audience that was 51% female with 78% of the crowd coming in aged 25 years or older.

    This is stunning.

    Freddie Mercury has been dead for 27 years. It’s been 33 years since Queen’s Live Aid triumph. And instead of forgetting them, fans went back for one more encore.

  122. 122.

    Mary G

    Conversation on NY Mag this afternoon:

    Benjamin Hart 3:22 PM
    if dems win big, it would send signals not only that the GOP’s one-percent-friendly economic policy is unpopular, but that trump’s immigration demagoguery isn’t necessarily politically effective. for a normal political party, you’d expect a shift in strategy, but I’m not sure that applies to republicans right now

    Eric Levitz 3:25 PM
    yeah. It is disconcertingly difficult to see any way that tomorrow’s events would force healthy changes in the Republican Party

    Jonathan Chait 3:26 PM
    not until 2021 at the very soonest

    Eric Levitz 3:26 PM
    but if “sending the army to fight mythical invading barbarians” is vindicated at the polls, the unhealthy changes will be even worse

    Benjamin Hart 3:27 PM
    if democrats underperform tomorrow and don’t take back the house, how screwed are we, in your estimation?

    Eric Levitz 3:27 PM
    I’d say “pretty darn”

    Jonathan Chait 3:28 PM
    I honestly think we cannot imagine the aftershocks

    the psychological effect on the Republican party would be massive. They would be so emboldened in their partisan behavior, and so beholden to Trump, it would be a different world than 2017-2018

    I also think the effects on Democrats would be unhealthy

    Eric Levitz 3:28 PM
    also, if this coincided with GOP victories in the toss up governor’s races, could see just brutal voter suppression and gerrymandering come to 2020, with a 6 or 7-to-2 conservative Supreme Court signing off on all of it

    Eric Levitz 3:30 PM
    which is to say: the accelerationists and “anti-electoralists” will get a fair test of their theory. if blue America discovers that it can’t win power by winning 6 percent more votes, could plausibly see some people turning to alternative modes of political action (which will probably be brutally suppressed the moment they become threatening because the accelerationists are wrong, imo)

    Benjamin Hart 3:31 PM
    (throws chair through window)

    I should have scheduled something for tonight, I am wound up tight.

    ETA: Medicine for my soul:

    WARNING: This video of Congressman John Lewis dancing may make you @Pharrell -level "Happy." ? https://t.co/dCkruFhERd pic.twitter.com/PHuxOywK6E— CBS News (@CBSNews) November 1, 2018

  123. 123.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Amir Khalid: Ha! and Springsteen isn’t known to indulge in the mind-altering substances, as far as I’ve heard. I wonder how many times Ozzy Osbourne has done that, being a stranger in this land, and to reality in general.

  125. 125.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Mary G: I am now in a panic about the mid-western governors’ races

    I may have to dial up the emergency button on my headspace app

  126. 126.

    Rand Careaga

    @Wapiti:

    I think it’s like when the FBI used snipers with shoot-to-kill orders against the Weavers (Bill Clinton era?).

    That’s a common misperception (lie) in the fever swamps. The Ruby Ridge shootout occurred late in the administration of Poppa Bush, in 1992.

  128. 128.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Ex-McCain aide, current Kasich crony

    John Weaver @ jwgop
    To my friends in Georgia, please vote for StaceyAbrams She has a plan to move the state forward, leaving no one behind. BrianKempGA is a direct racist political descendent of Lester Maddox & will bring shame to the state. Please stand with Stacey, she’s earned your support.

  129. 129.

    Marcopolo

    Okay folks heading off to plant signs. Then Election Day prep. Then sleep. I’m gonna be a lil busy tomorrow but see y’all on the other side of the election.

    We vote we win! Bring it home!

  130. 130.

    Kay

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    All going to come down to turnout in Ohio! She said sadly waiting for Cleveland to come in for the last DECADE :)

    I feel good about it though. Politicos in Ohio said Cordray would tick up as it got closer and that happened, so I decided that’s a “sign”. It was really a fairly boring race. The two candidates had long, exhausted sounding exchanges about “home rule” which is fairly obscure and really complicated. There was little or no overt racism and a notable lack of shrieking about “the caravan”. It was just the tall guy and the short guy, bickering over preexisting conditions.

    Cordray will be a really good governor and if he wins and is successful as a governor he’ll run for President. He would be good at that job, too.

  131. 131.

    Platonailedit

    Of course, it’s always projection with the rethugs.

    Voters casting ballots early have encountered faulty machines in TX and NC, inaccurate mailers in MO and MT, and voter registration problems in TN and GA. In other states, including KS, Election Day polling places have been closed or consolidated.https://t.co/lBZbnOVWSi— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 6, 2018

  132. 132.

    trollhattan

    @laura:
    He’s still closing out his Klan rallies with “You can’t always get what you want” and I’m very disappointed Keith and Mick didn’t put a stop to that shit two years ago.

  136. 136.

    Jay

    Digby links to a new CNN poll.

    70% of respondents say it’s a Trumerendom,

    28% pro-Insane Clown POSus,

    42% against.

    So 30% are voting on the “issues” and “platforms”, which given the ReThug’s don’t have one, applying the Alan Keyne’s rule suggests 27.9% might vote Democratic, 8.1% ReThug.

    That’s almost a 70/30 break.

  139. 139.

    Suzanne

    I am in total denial of what is happening tomorrow. Kind of freaking out. I kinda want an Old-Fashioned but not on a Monday.

  140. 140.

    J R in WV

    @Platonailedit:

    BREAKING: A new CNN poll has been released, conducted by SSRS:

    Approve 39%

    Disapprove 55%

    Dear Trump, supporters. You are in the overwhelming minority.

    — Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) November 5, 2018

    This comment is meaningless, without knowing what was polled, we don’t know that the numbers mean anything good or bad. Thanks for Nothing!!!

  144. 144.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Suzanne: I’m choosing to spend tomorrow flying from one elitist coast to the other elitist coast. Five hours without news!

  145. 145.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Omnes Omnibus: that’s a sound practice supported by two out of three medical professionals.

    I’m enjoying a bottle of Caymus left over from our weekend celebration of pigskin success.

  146. 146.

    Ka

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    It’ll be close but I felt good all day talking to people. They’re all paranoid and gun shy but my sense is they feel good too.

    The governor’s race was oddly comforting- just a really normal Ohio D v R fight. For long stretches it was like Trump didn’t exist. Canvassing squishy voters it was almost like it was impolite to mention him, which I interpret as shame. It was weird, like “nice people don’t mention him” – it was a relief. I don’t want to talk about him.

  148. 148.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Ka: your current governor was on MSNBC today and it was such a stunning exercise in bad faith. The R gov of one of the larger states in the Union was talking about how “we regular folks” have to demand leadership, from BOTH PARTIES! Then he bragged about expanding Medicaid, aka implementing Obamacare, as if it were his idea and said the Dems have no leaders and platform. To her credit, Nicole Wallace did push back a little on the last part, pointing out that actual Dem candidates, as opposed to the ones on TV, were all about health care.

  149. 149.

    Shalimar

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: He’s not really hearing the right message. There is nothing wrong with saying your daughter is beautiful if you say it in a non-sexual way. It’s the saying you would fuck and/or marry her if she wasn’t your daughter where it gets creepy.

  150. 150.

    laura

    @trollhattan: the Stones have tried -for years, Rhianna has tried, Tom Petty tried. Trump ignores the cease & desist letters claiming that the venue and not the campaign is the responsible party. He’s a cheap, chiseling free-loading shite-bag who also does not pay royalties, licensing fees etc.,

  151. 151.

    Kay

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Oh, he’s horrible. All ego. He’s a “hands off” executive and even I thought he was patronizing to the state legislature. I mean, a lot of them are dopes and the whole GOP caucus are corrupt but his fatherly sadness and regret over what clowns they are got on my nerves and I’m not even one of them. He treats them with this pained effort, like he’s above it all. Insufferable.

    Take heart though. His Party is completely insane and they will never, ever nominate him so his career is over. He’ll be a cable tv celebrity and sit on corporate boards.

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    mad citizen

    @laura: They need to try harder. How about some nasty anti-Trump songs? Neil Young was successful at getting Rocking in the Free World off the playlist early on.

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    joel hanes

    @skerry:

    our sovereignty

    He forgot the capital letters that would have made clear that he arrogates to himself the powers and privileges of a king.

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    The Moar You Know

    I’m very disappointed Keith and Mick didn’t put a stop to that shit two years ago.

    @trollhattan: They’ve asked him to stop, repeatedly. Here’s the thing: he doesn’t have to. So long as he (or any other politician) pays what is known as the “mechanical licensing fee”, they can play it and the rightsholder has no recourse. That fee is not pricey and is set by law.

    I’ll say this: Trump (no shock) is the first politician I have ever seen that has told the artist to go pound sand and kept using the songs anyway.

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