Tom MacArthur, Republican Congressman of the New Jersey 3rd, has lost his reelection bid:
Remember that viral town hall where a guy scorned his Congressman for trying to take away his wife's health insurance?
That Congressman was Tom MacArthur, architect of the Obamacare repeal.
He just lost reelection. pic.twitter.com/0ceMFcSKGe
— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) November 14, 2018
The AP called the race today, which came as a surprise to MacArthur. Per TPM:
The Associated Press may have called his tight race for his Democratic opponent, but Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-NJ) isn’t quite ready to concede.
MacArthur seemed surprised when TPM asked him about the Wednesday AP call as he walked to the House shortly before 3 p.m. ET.
“I hadn’t even seen the AP call,” he told TPM when asked about the news. “I have no reaction because I haven’t seen it.”
Thanks, Angry Dad in Scrubs.
What kind of idiot represents a navy blue state and thinks they can simultaneously be the architect of repealing a program that is broadly popular in his state and vote for a tax bill that effectively increases the taxes paid by nearly every homeowner in his district, without consequences?
If only the world worked this way 100% of the time.
How long before the “Trump is not a real conservative” meme? (NeverTrumpers excepted)
The Moar You Know
Huh, it’s almost like people don’t like the GOP agenda. Well, I’m sure they just need to double down on it. There’s a pony in there somewhere, Republicans!
Adam L Silverman
He’s refusing to concede.
The Moar You Know
@p.a.: Won’t work. The base went all in, just like they did for Reagan. Nevermind that Reagan, if he had to face today’s voters would be called a fucking worthless libtard commie to his face, they’ve never had the balls to go the “not a real conservative” route with the guy. They won’t with Trump, either. Ever.
There’s a Cocoon of Bitterness and Resentment with his name on it ready and waiting …
First cocoon ever to produce something uglier than what went in.
@The Moar You Know:
The Never Trumpers will make the claim to try to redeem conservatism, but because of Trumpism, they ain’t gonna get “their party” back and will have to start their own party.
@Adam L Silverman: I guess we should just wait for the voter fraud allegations followed shortly thereafter by a lawsuit.
Maybe he can get Brian Kemp to “review the voter lists” for him.
@Adam L Silverman: Doesn’t really matter. Unless there’s a razor-thin margin (and 4,000 votes in a House election isn’t that close), a concession is just a pro forma bit of politeness. He can either leave his seat with some grace or do so gracelessly, but either way he’s leaving.
The gentleman in the first tweet gave an epic and emotional speech about the ACA and how his family needed its protections. I thank him.
Just tweet at Mike Levin that when he is sworn in he should vote for Nancy SMASH as speaker.
That’s been my favorite phrase of the day since early this morning. It just flows off the tongue.
Both of my brothers live in MacArthur’s district, and both say he seems like a real dickhead. It is a very wealthy area, and it is a testament to how Republican the district is that MacArthur didn’t get slaughtered because the tax plan cost most of his constituents some serious bucks (very high property taxes and state income taxes, so the tax cut was more than offset by the lower limits of deductions). One brother is a doctor married to a doctor, and he jokes that they are just about the only doctors in New Jersey that are Democrats (he’s also in favor of universal health care).
And a Democrat won the election for Dallas TX District Attorney.
Which is bad news for Amber Guyger.
He will never become a bright elusive butterfly of love, though.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@p.a.: Morning Joe says that already.
Did Roy Moore ever get around to conceding?
OT: I nominate this for the “most effective DO NOT READ warning label for an op-ed column” award:
(and no, I didn’t read it. Nor will I link to it)
Ocasio Cortez should set up a GoFundMe to cover her moving costs to DC.
OT–A domestic cost of WWI in post-war England–‘the woman surplus.’ Thousands of men were gone, thus thousands of women were unable to marry and have children.
In one of her mysteries, Dorothy Sayers has her detective Lord Peter Wimsey hire some of this ‘surplus’ as his detective service. They enjoy having something meaningful to do–and get paid for doing- and enter into his project with great zest.
I tried to buy some cereal this morning, but had to return home empty-handed.
Forgot my photo ID.
They sound nice.
Mike in NC
@dmsilev: Well, it’s an old saying that people should write about what they know best.
Well, well, well…
@Yarrow: I have never trusted that lean in woman. She always struck me as a bit smarmy, Zuckie may be clueless, but her is evil.
@germy: I got all the way to the checkout only to find I wasn’t authorized to buy Captain Crunch. Had to settle for Cheerios. Sad.
Kevin McCarthy was elected House Minority Leader in a surprisingly easy 159-43 victory over conservative leader Jim Jordan of Ohio, a founding member of the ever-fractious House Freedom Caucus.
Wasn’t trump hoping for Jordan?
She should stand outside Nancy Pelosi’s apartment screaming “DIE YOU FILTHY CORPORATE COCK-SUCKING WHORE” until the DNC buys her a house in Georgetown. If they don’t, it just proves that the Democrat party must be destroyed.
I’m 10 years older than Douthat, and I could have told him what killed the sexual revolution. It was AIDS. He’s seeing the aftereffects of the AIDS crisis and thinks it’s the origin. That’s because he’s a moron who doesn’t actually know or understand history despite his posturing.
@germy: Trump wants Jordan on one of the committees. I have no idea what kind of help he expects that will get him, other than maybe slipping him confidential information. I would also expect that the D leadership will therefore withhold anything that might find its way to the White House.
The Moar You Know
@Yarrow: I don’t think I’m the only one who has noticed that since Facebook’s arrival, fascism went from being the purvey of a few fringe lunatics to a viable electoral option for every nation that has Facebook access.
The platform enables and encourages this. I don’t know how – I’m a techie whose last legit study of social psychology was in 1990 when I got my degree in it – but it does.
@schrodingers_cat: I’ve never trusted her either. I don’t trust either of them. Zuckerberg is not clueless. He knew what he was doing. They are funded by Russia and have contributed to the dissemination of hate speech and promotion of white supremacist groups, etc. They are not to be trusted.
@debit: I’m so old I remember the captain crunch whistle. According to legend, you could blow on it into a payphone and place a free call to anywhere in the United States.
@debit: Of course Trump wants Jordan in some leadership position. Jordan is compromised and Trump would have leverage of him. It’s how Trump works.
But her emails!!!
You do realize that story about yesterday was actually bullshit right?
@germy: I don’t remember that! Just that Peanut Butter Captain Crunch was my go to cereal as a kid and that it ripped the roof of my mouth to shreds.
He was used to being a mover and shaker in his earlier jobs. He worked his way up to insurance company CEO.
He wanted to be a mover and shaker in DC and jumped into currying favor with Republican leadership.
Thankfully it had backfired
I live in the district as well. The district covers most of 2 counties, Ocean County and Burlington County.
Ocean county is where a lot of rich retirees live and is very Republican. Burlington county has been trending more Democratic in recent years, which helped this year.
No Johnny Walker-Os for you!
@Adam L Silverman:
How very…gray of them.
11.9999th-hour spine implant? Here’s hoping that popped a few gaskets.
So old that remember when cereal makers didn’t dilly-dally around and placed the word sugar front and center. Sugar Pops, Sugar Snaps, etc.
You old enough to have recall of the Quisp vs. Quake marketing gimmick?
My 15 year old forbids the news after school. Today we are watching the movie Big. He’d never seen it before. I had forgotten what a sweet movie it is.
I love scrubs Dad. He was able to articulate what so many of us have been feeling. The Republicans are domestic terrorists for the way they have been threatening the health of our families.
Mike in NC
Report says that New Jersey will now only have 1 Republican congressman out of 12 seats. Let’s hope California follows this trend.
@But her emails!!!: It WAS bullshit, but the media is still interested in flogging it. I’m seeing other articles today about “the rebellion” against Pelosi, which namechecked AOC.
It also focused on the anti-Pelosi groupfor Speaker, saying its spokesmen don’t have a candidate or list of candidates, and won’t say who belongs to their group. But they totally promise they’ve got overwhelming support, guys!
@trollhattan: @Adam L Silverman: Tom Price’s wife Betty has not conceded either. She lost her state house seat. Although I was checking the 6th district all night, it didn’t dawn on me to check her race. That is how solid it was. A friend told me the next day. IOKIYR
@Yarrow: He may not be clueless but he is not as practiced a liar as Sandberg. She is at the level of David Brooks. Lying while looking all so sincere.
Le sigh Still awaiting a rather important piece of mail sent Priority on Nov. 5. All USPS will disclose is that it will arrive “later than expected” and is “in transit.”
@NotMax: I remember commercials where they touted the “energy-giving” health benefits of a heaping tablespoon of sugar on your cereal.
Quisp vs. Quake? I was about ten years old and glued to the TV. But a lot of those promotions went over my head, because I was so impatient for the cartoons to come on again.
Major Major Major Major
Time for me to start leaving Hawaii. Quick hop from Kona to Honolulu, then halfway across the ocean and across a whole continent to very much the opposite sort of place.
I met some wonderful California folks on this wedding trip. Now I’m not going to see them for forever! This comic sums up my mood: https://www.instagram.com/p/BqKt28_hbRI/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1uj75gmj13rs1
@germy: @germy: Not exactly.
Draper was an early crony of Jobs and Wozniak.
@NotMax: Heh. I have a package (my copy of Fallout 76, for anyone that was on Alain’s thread earlier) arriving today, and I’ve been watching the “delivery truck tracker” all day. The mail truck has gone within 25 feet of my house 5 different times today, but keep veering away and going somewhere else.
Your situation clearly sucks more, I’m just right there with you in the “frustrated by delivery people” thing. Or maybe slightly amused.
@Adam L Silverman: Has Pedophile Judge Moore ever conceded? The last time I heard about him, he had filed a frivolous lawsuit related to his loss. MacArthur can keep his concession where the sun don’t shine.
@NotMax: Except Quisp was my favorite breakfast cereal and Quake was pretty much inedible.
@Origuy: Well, I didn’t say the legend was correct.
@MomSense: Good for him.
But her emails!!!
Let me clarify. It’s BS because
1. The group wasn’t there to protest Pelosi.
2. The congressman elect actually made comments supportive of Pelosi
3. The protest language was courtesy of Paul Ryan’s team
4. The press ran with the Republican framing
5. Liberals bought it
There are so many awesome ‘Good Riddance! Don’t let the door hit ya on your way out!’ messages we’ve sent to so many bad actors. Republicans didn’t see this coming and I don’t understand how they could be so clueless. Are they all locked in the Fox bubble? Do they have no staff who warned them?
I too am celebrating. I live in the Central Valley here in N. Cal. My representative has been the TeaBagger Mike Denham for far too long. Yesterday Mr. Denham was told Democrat Josh Harder is getting his job. Man it felt good. This area would normally be Democratic if poor folk voted. All too often, poor folk don’t vote here. This time, they did. Thank you all for supporting Josh Harder and helping me be represented better.
Ooh, I’m in luv!
That was a beautiful exchange
Here ya go. 1965; would have guessed it was earlier.
Spoiler: Quisp won in a walk.
Vaguely remember a short-lived campaign for some brand of toothpaste which dodged saying sugar in favor of something along the lines of “a secret ingredient gives it a flavor kids love. They’ll want to brush.”
Gym Jordan went on Faux News to audition for the job.
Wonkette covered it.
That was a concert crowd!
@germy: And here I thought wrestling coaches with a history of sexual wrongdoing was something of a sure-thing in Republican leadership.
I think so too. I even heard one of them say it but can’t remember who. I think it was on Bill Maher.
@NotMax: I was seven years old in 1965. Some of those ad campaigns were bizarre.
And then there were the malt liquor commercials (when malt liquor was being pushed as a “high class” drink) with the server parachuting in to pour a glass.
@Major Major Major Major
Hawaii to New York flights are enervating in extremis. Stay hydrated. And wave at Maui as you pass by overhead.
Dorothy A. Winsor
So when is the Speaker election?
USA TODAY headline:
Senate refuses vote to protect special counsel Robert Mueller
Dear President Trump: Please note that Michelle Obama did not have to falsely inflate the number of people who came out to see her.
@NotMax: Thanks for the old commercial video. I’d forgotten that Quaker Oats cereals other than Cap’n Crunch used animation from the great Jay Ward’s shop, and considering how bad he was at meeting network deadlines for Rocky & Bullwinkle and Dudley Doo-Right, he needed the dough. Although I guess Quaker was unwilling to pay enough so Ward could use Bill Conrad for the narration.
I think campaign finance law would get in the way of that.
@NotMax: I had one of those packages and it did actually arrive.
Someone said Fudge was not opposing Pelosi as Speaker, but her name is on this list
WOW! Hadn’t seen that video–awesome.
Yup, remember the malt liquor ads as well. Whole bunch of ’em.
’65 (or shortly before) would have been when Carnation Instant Breakfast hit the shelves. Awful tasting enough as a product, the orange flavor was especially vile.
“Everybody reached under their chair and got Free Obamaphone. I do not have to resort to Tricks for my crowds, which are the Biggest Crowds in Crowd History!”
@lamh36: Seems to me that this is something folks could write to their Representative about. I did.
He’s not wrong. The news is very depressing.
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax: I’ve done longer flights :) thanks for the advice though!
@NotMax: And there was something called “PDQ” weird pink stuff that you stirred into milk. Made it taste like cotton candy.
What a time it was to be alive.
At least one of the voices is the late great Daws Butler, voice over artiste extraordinaire.
BTW it was below freezing here today. We had torrential rain all day and night yesterday. Today all the puddles are frozen.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@lamh36: Who are they supporting then? You can’t beat something with nothing. Who do they think will be better?
@germy: Hey US media folks, here, I would argue immodestly, is how you interview a Trump supporter on Trump’s lies
At one point during the interview, Steve Rogers came very close to pulling a Ralph Kramden:
Kids today are too busy texting to waste precious time stirring.
@Yarrow: Pretty sure Jeff Flake counted and realized they can pass without his vote. I suspect this is just theater.
…or pay extras to show up.
AO- 1996-14 allows the use of Campaign Funds for an Office Holder’s moving expenses as part of their taking office.
@Roger Moore: She could set up a PAC. Colbert proved you could do anything with PAC money.
Check this NASA photo of the Camp Fire. I have no file date but from appearances think it’s from last Thursday, just a few hours into its life. Point of origin is in the upper right where you can see a light-colored line intersecting. That’s a PG&E high-voltage transmission right of way.
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
The formal election will only happen after the new Congress is sworn in. In practice, though, the caucuses get together and figure out their leadership during the lame duck session so it’s all a formality on January 3rd.
scott (the other one)
@Barbara: “The Aristocrats!”
@lamh36: My Congressperson Kurt Schrader is on the anti-Pelosi list. I called his office a few days ago and let someone there know Pelosi is the Speaker we need. I gave her a huge amount of the credit for Obamacare. Pointed out politics is a team activity, Trump is an ongoing crisis and we don’t have time for anyone to learn on the job. Get on the team!
@germy: My pet peeve: The news needs to actually specify who’s doing what. Not “The Senate” but “Republicans controlling the Senate” refuse to protect Mueller.
@Jay: Hm, yes, but I would think that’s something she’s philosophically opposed to, no?
@gwangung: Pick up the phone and call your Rep. They are tallying calls for it.
@schrodingers_cat: I’ve never trusted her. I remember seeing her interviewed somewhere after Facebook had changed something and everything everything they said was private would now be public. She was like, “Too bad! We believe sharing is good!” or some crap. It was total BS and she said it with that sickly sweet voice and oh, so fake-sincere demeanor. I couldn’t believe anyone trusted her. She’s such a liar.
Zuckerberg is the soulless, immoral and amoral guy running it. Sandberg is the nice front face to sell the con to the public.
A Ghost To Most
If this Fascistbook thing doesn’t work out, Sandberg has a bright future as a preacher.
@Yarrow: Yup. Done did that.
Might do it a second or third time to make it stick.
A Ghost To Most
@scott (the other one): well played.
@Yarrow: She is more than that. Selling all the data to third parties and monetizing the information about users on the platform was her idea according to the Frontline show on Facebook.
TS (the original)
@Yarrow: But he voted YES when it REALLY mattered. Another very concerned, soon to be ex, senator – and he knows they will be confirmed next year.
So. Avenatti is in custody for domestic violence? How … fascinating. Funny how bomb throwers often blowup themselves.
It’s a lawful expense and a much needed help for someone who saved her wages to be able to run and won’t be getting a salary until 2019.
Or are you just purity trolling?
ICYMI: Michelle Obama on GMA with her brother Craig Robinson https://youtu.be/i4OJL69hld4 via @YouTube
A Ghost To Most
Also, anyone who believes Jeff Flake’s latest strong man cosplay is a fucking idiot.
@schrodingers_cat: They’re both guilty. And traitors.
Avenati was arrested for domestic violence. He’s currently in LAPD custody.
I suspect that a lot of the freshman reps who “pledged” not to support Pelosi are going to have a change of heart once they actually meet her and the rest of the leadership. All of the anti-Pelosi propaganda they’ve been hearing is not going to survive meeting her face-to-face and hearing directly from her what her priorities are.
ICYMI: Michelle Obama w/Gayle King on CBS This Morning
Michelle Obama’s mom wants to be Michelle Obama when she grows up https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michelle-obama-gayle-king-interview-mother-marian-robinson/
@MomSense: Also you get to watch a sweet movie. We all need a break from the orange sludge that is overtaking the country.
@lamh36: The interview with Jenna Bush on Today show was really sweet. Jenna was teary eyed.
Twitter keeps insisting that they want Rep. Barbara Lee to be the new Speaker. Only problem is, Lee doesn’t want it and isn’t running for it:
He forgot the kind of Republicans in his district. They are Tax Republicans. They don’t give two shyts about the little Baby Jesus, abortion or guns. They are GOP cause of taxes.
@Mnemosyne: it’s frightening that they know so little about House rules or Pelosi’s legislative accomplishments that they would need to meet Pelosi face to face to change their opinion. I’d expect more from soon to be legislators. Then there are the perennial backbenchers (Ryan, Moulton, Rice), who I guess are pissed about being perrenial backbenchers. Gawd I wish they’d throw their tantrum elsewhere.
LAPD officers in West Los Angeles have responded to an incident involving Michael Avenatti, where he is detained during the process of taking an incident report, sources tell @NBCNews – @anblanx
I’m willing to cut the freshman representatives a break on that — yes, even Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. We really underestimate how much anti-Democrat propaganda there is floating around out there and the extent to which it was deliberately aimed at the left to try and splinter the country.
We knew all of the stuff thrown at Hillary in 2016 was bullshit because we lived through it and knew what the truth was, but the younger generation growing up on those urban legends never read The Hunting Of The President and probably don’t even know that the book exists.
I will be satisfied if they get to Congress and are like, Well, shit, these people aren’t at all what I was told they were. I’d better get the lay of the land and see how the House actually works.
I don’t wish the guy any harm, and nobody knows the details yet, but that has to be the end of his presidential ambitions even if he is not charged.
And that is a very good thing.
I suspect AOC just staged that change of heart so she can justify it to her constituents. Pelosi is a master wrangler. She does what it takes, and doesn’t worry about her pride.
@Mnemosyne: AOC and Tlaib are actually not on the list of people opposing Pelosi. Of the 17 who have committed to voting ‘no’, the newly elected include Brindisi (NY) and Van Drew (NJ). Then there are a bunch who have said they’ll vote no, but it’s unclear if they meant in caucus or on the House floor. At first I thought this was a misstep they made on the campaign trail, committing to something they should have obfuscated on. But now I think they meant it. They better get over this soon. I will never forgive them if we end up with a Speaker Hoyer or, God forbid, a Speaker McCarthy.
Ross Douthat has always struck me as vaguely creepy.
They’re politicians. They’re not “committed” to anything yet no matter what they said on the campaign trail, and everyone knows it.
If Frankensteinbeck is right and Pelosi has already co-opted AOC, not just outmaneuvered her, then I think Hoyer and Ryan and their cabal is in for an unpleasant surprise when the voting starts.
The Pale Scot
DOG I swear he’s done/I’ve seen this before! I remember commenting on it, Bloody weird
@The Moar You Know: You’re right about social media and the Book of Faces facilitating fascism. Z and Sandberg went for increasing revenue which depends on views, which are ramped up by controversy, which get comments and reposts.
Two programs aired in the last ten days – a two part Frontline and an Independent Lens on social media’s terrible and worsening record. They should be required viewing. The Independent Lens piece lays out a compelling case that the genocide in Myanmar was caused by Facebook.
I think the anti-Pelosi faction just haven’t yet learned the lesson that the Republicans will just make shit up and throw it at the Democratic leader, no matter who the Democrats choose. Might as well have an effective leader while the Republicans throw their monkey-poo as someone new to the job — the monkey-poo is going to get thrown all the same.
Besides, there will soon be a bunch of poo-targets as people gear up for 2020, not just Pelosi.
It might be nice if she brought some youngsters into House leadership, if only for mentoring purposes, but as far as I know, maybe she has or will.
@Mnemosyne: You’re probably right. I don’t have the feel or the intestinal fortitude for politics. I guess this means I should jump to the thread above on raccoons. I spotted a fox with mange in my yard last week. This week, it’s gone. I think I may have waited too long to find out how to treat it. Poor thing…it looked so scrawny.
@MisterForkbeard: It appears that some of AOC’s story did not add up. But the core is that Pelosi and the so-called “demonstrators” are in agreement with having a climate change counsel.
It still managed to get MSM attention. The question is how do we or the Dem leadership keep it in the news? It seems like an opportunity that should be grabbed. Jerry Brown was great on Chritiane Amanpour last night. He wouldn’t stop talking about the wildfires being “The new abnormal.” He described stronger storms, fires last year in Europe, future fires in Asia and Africa, refugees from Africa due to temperatures too hot to survive, etc. Whst it needed was one personal emotional story. Stalin had it right when he said that one person is a story, a million deaths is a statistic. Kashoggi vs. genocide in Yemen and Myanmar.
@dm: I hope Pelosi has a plan for replacing Steney Hoyer with some promising youngs.
I got a letter from my outgoing rep touting all the great accomplishments of the Republican Congress. Historic tax reform, putting money back in my pocket. Letter marked Official Business, not a campaign mailing, oh no sir. But the letter was dated October 30th so clearly intended to arrive just before voting. It showed up today, demonstrating the competence of the Republican Congress.
There’s something fishy about it, though. Might be rodent copulation.
@But her emails!!!: I understand your frustration with media coverage of the AOC Pelosi climate change event / meeting. It’s called ‘media’. It’s not called truth, or reporting. Media serves its own purposes. Since the demise of the Fairness Doctrine it’s worse every year. For many years I found myself in dead tree articles, on radio and tv. It was rarely accurate ir clear. In one case I became the story because I was the white guy at the middle eastern Muslim relief effort. Good Dog! At least I knew the message that the Muslim organizers wanted to get across: “Muslims welcome assistance for the effort to help victims of violent extremists. This white guy supports them unconditionally.”
My view was always can we leverage this to further publicize our cause? Even if the stories were terribly wrong it provided media familiarity. I could contact reporters because they’d heard my name. I believe AOC has this because she’s already known to media. If she coordinates with Dem leaders and helps further common goals she can become highly influential. If she’s not careful she can become a one note storyline: disruptor. It’s essential to disrupt on occasion but keep the media guessing and they’ll keep coming back for more.
Peter H Desmond
interesting article, thank you.
this would seem to be the post she’s running for:
Lee is running for chair of the House Democratic Caucus, the party’s No. 5 leadership role, held most recently by Joe Crowley. After Crowley was beaten soundly by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in the primary this summer, Lee announced that she’d be seeking his post, running against fellow Californian Linda Sánchez. No woman has ever held the spot, and no black woman has ever been elected to the leadership in either the Democratic or Republican parties. Two days after the midterms, Hakeem Jeffries announced he was entering the race and Sánchez dropped out after her husband was indicted on federal charges.