A journo-nerd note about the @elisaslow story everyone is rightly praising:
There’s no nut graph, no summation of “what it all means,” and the story is all the better for it.
It makes readers’ minds turn, without telling them to.
— Eric Umansky (@ericuman) November 19, 2018
It is, in truth, one heckuva story. Neither of the main characters have anything but the best of intentions, and yet… Kudos to the Washington Post for demonstrating “How lies become truth in online America“:
NORTH WATERBORO, Maine — The only light in the house came from the glow of three computer monitors, and Christopher Blair, 46, sat down at a keyboard and started to type. His wife had left for work and his children were on their way to school, but waiting online was his other community, an unreality where nothing was exactly as it seemed. He logged onto his website and began to invent his first news story of the day…
He had launched his new website on Facebook during the 2016 presidential campaign as a practical joke among friends — a political satire site started by Blair and a few other liberal bloggers who wanted to make fun of what they considered to be extremist ideas spreading throughout the far right. In the last two years on his page, America’s Last Line of Defense, Blair had made up stories about California instituting sharia, former president Bill Clinton becoming a serial killer, undocumented immigrants defacing Mount Rushmore, and former president Barack Obama dodging the Vietnam draft when he was 9. “Share if you’re outraged!” his posts often read, and thousands of people on Facebook had clicked “like” and then “share,” most of whom did not recognize his posts as satire. Instead, Blair’s page had become one of the most popular on Facebook among Trump-supporting conservatives over 55.
“Nothing on this page is real,” read one of the 14 disclaimers on Blair’s site, and yet in the America of 2018 his stories had become real, reinforcing people’s biases, spreading onto Macedonian and Russian fake news sites, amassing an audience of as many 6 million visitors each month who thought his posts were factual. What Blair had first conceived of as an elaborate joke was beginning to reveal something darker. “No matter how racist, how bigoted, how offensive, how obviously fake we get, people keep coming back,” Blair once wrote, on his own personal Facebook page. “Where is the edge? Is there ever a point where people realize they’re being fed garbage and decide to return to reality?”…
It was barely dawn in Pahrump, Nev., when Shirley Chapian, 76, logged onto Facebook for her morning computer game of Criminal Case. She believed in starting each day with a problem-solving challenge, a quick mental exercise to keep her brain sharp more than a decade into retirement. For a while it had been the daily crossword puzzle, but then the local newspaper stopped delivering and a friend introduced her to the viral Facebook game with 65 million players. She spent an hour as a 1930s detective, interrogating witnesses and trying to parse their lies from the truth until finally she solved case No. 48 and clicked over to her Facebook news feed…
The house was empty and quiet except for the clicking of her computer mouse. She lived alone, and on many days her only personal interaction occurred here, on Facebook. Mixed into her morning news feed were photos and updates from some of her 300 friends, but most items came directly from political groups Chapian had chosen to follow: “Free Speech Patriots,” “Taking Back America,” “Ban Islam,” “Trump 2020” and “Rebel Life.” Each political page published several posts each day directly into Chapian’s feed, many of which claimed to be “BREAKING NEWS.”…
She had lived much of her life in cities throughout Europe and across the United States — places such as San Francisco, New York and Miami. She’d gone to college for a few years and become an insurance adjuster, working as one of the few women in the field in the 1980s and ’90s and joining the National Organization for Women to advocate for an equal wage before eventually moving to Rhode Island to work for a hospice and care for her aging parents. After her mother died, Chapian decided to retire and move to Las Vegas to live with a friend, and when Las Vegas become too expensive a real estate agent told her about Pahrump. She bought a three-bedroom trailer for less than $100,000 and painted it purple. She met a few friends at the local senior center and started eating at the Thai restaurant in town. A few years after arriving, she bought a new computer monitor and signed up for Facebook in 2009, choosing as her profile image a photo of her cat…
Chapian didn’t believe everything she read online, but she was also distrustful of mainstream fact-checkers and reported news. It sometimes felt to her like real facts had become indiscernible — that the truth was often somewhere in between. What she trusted most was her own ability to think critically and discern the truth, and increasingly her instincts aligned with the online community where she spent most of her time. It had been months since she’d gone to a movie. It had been almost a year since she’d made the hour-long trip to Las Vegas. Her number of likes and shares on Facebook increased each year until she was sometimes awakening to check her news feed in the middle of the night, liking and commenting on dozens of posts each day. She felt as if she was being let in on a series of dark revelations about the United States, and it was her responsibility to see and to share them.
“I’m not a conspiracy-theory-type person, but . . .” she wrote, before sharing a link to an unsourced story suggesting that Democratic donor George Soros had been a committed Nazi, or that a Parkland shooting survivor was actually a paid actor…
If only Zuckerberg had been content to stick with objectifying the women in his Harvard class… yeah, I know, *someone* was gonna introduce a Facebook-style tech weapon into our badly prepared society. We’re a herd animal, and the Faceborg is an invisible village accessible to even those least prepared to live responsibly. WASF.
I wish this wasn’t real.
They are going to attack Venezuela at this rate.
Operation Fuck it Let’s Stop Pretending Anymore.
Somewhere a pedant is crying.
And so her inner fascist slowly came out into the open.
Facebook is poison. The only way to fix it is to kill it.
Gin & Tonic
I have been to Pahrump, NV. It explains a lot about this story.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Shit. There’s nothing so fucking over the top and deranged that somebody won’t believe it. I know there are some far-left idiots who fall for this shit, but this mostly seems to be a problem on the right. I don’t know what we’re going to do as a democracy when a third of the people file divorce with reality.
And then burn the corpse, salt the ashes and disburse what’s left into the sea under the dawning sun.
A Ghost To Most
@different-church-lady: Agreed. So is organized religion. It brainwashes people..
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
Remove 1/3rd of the people from the voting pool.
Gin & Tonic
Somewhere a pedant is crying.
So someone I know posted an article on FaceBook today. The title was something like: “Scientists who reported on cancer enzymes in vaccines found dead”. I think I need to unfriend her. That is the most ridiculous headline, in a ridiculous time… I can’t deal with the stupid anymore!
@different-church-lady: Post that to Facebook, that’s the best way to spread the message.
Yeah. Kinda sad, seeing old progressives and socialists get into the game of defending Russia and making wild claims about the Clinton foundations (the latter of which left me shaking my head; I’ve spent 30 YEARS analyzing foundation documents and they think I’m a neoliberal sellout…).
We are heard animals
even ones that would be better silent
@Gin & Tonic: It explains everything about this story
hells littlest angel
Terrifying and sad. People who retire and find themselves with nothing to do are ripe for the plucking. If I were the Parallax Corporation they’d be who I’d recruit.
One of the dolts behind the anti-Pelosi movement is trying to explain himself. It doesn’t make much sense. He, as far as i can figure, claims there are others who won’t come forward to oppose Pelosi even though she is unpopular, because she is so popular that if they go public, their constituents will show up at town halls and make them unpleasant for the very not-brave undercover Pelosi opponents in the House.
NEW: Moulton says the idea behind the letter to oust Pelosi has been talked about for the last few months. He says he did not write the letter. He said there are representatives in the dark who back the letter, but didn’t want to face contentious town halls. #NBC10Boston.
I also notice that after Tim Ryan bravely offered to sacrifice himself as an alternative candidate, no one has even mentioned it, not even these center-right bozos and confused people who are the last hold outs. This is the same stunt they tried last time House Dems had to elect a speaker, and I hope/predict that it will have the same result: not one damn thing, and Pelosi as the new Speaker.
I don’t think the Speaker of the House even has to be a member of the House or even hold elective political office. So, to make it fun, these loser mooks could at least find someone exciting and new. Like, I dunno, The Rock? Beyonce? Taylor Swift? John Madden? (though kind of old, but he could fold in talks on the new edition of his game with press conferences. Would get a lot of news coverage. Edit: and Madden still has some good pep talks in him. Boom! Bam! Kapowee!).
Edit: tweet found via Josh Marshall’s twitter feed, which has a sad and sorry series of entries on these goofballs.
@jl: Condoleezza Rice, saying she doesn’t take the Browns’ head coaching job.
“cancer enzymes”? There’s your clue right there that it’s bullshit.
FWIW, that was debunked by Politifact in April of 2017:
There is one (1) guy who appears to have been connected to the anti-vaccine movement who committed suicide. The others were unconnected.
@Gin & Tonic: ” I have been to Pahrump, NV. It explains a lot about this story. ”
Oh yeah? I’ll have you know that Pahrump is one of the two or three areas vying for the best wine region of Nevada.
Such unsophisticated yokels comment on this blog. I can’t believe it sometimes.
Edit: was in Pahrump once and a local said that it was the best wine applation in Nevada, not like the other new comers. I wondered why they were trying to make Appalachian wine in Nevada, and then the conversation got a little confused.
I’ll be today’s crying pedant.
Please remember the folks and their pets in Paradise.
There is no need to interfere. I expect Brasil and Venezuela to go at it eventually. The shit going down in that continent.. jeezus. I don’t know who is to blame.. I suspect we’re part of this.
“No one goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.” Yogi Himself
@HumboldtBlue: My friends house in Paradise.
@cain: At this point I am just waiting to find out how far down California is on the list. And when will we get hit with sanctions for not raking our gigantic huge state-run forests, which are a mess, a total mess, not classy or top at all, like good little boys and girls.
Gin & Tonic
Is that like trying to be the best surfing spot in Labrador?
Why? The sentence is grammatical and factually correct.
@Raven: It amazes me what is left. The slab and the chimney (OK) but the fence?
Is your buddy doing better?
@jl: Tim Ryan is convinced that, sooner or later, the rest of the world will understand that Tim Ryan is the BEST and ONLY person to be Speaker. This is the sort of self-involvement that is not susceptible to argument.
Seth Moulton is a natural Republican, but people with the (R) label in Massachusetts only get elected to the governor’s office (stupid Masshole tic), and Seth Moulton intends to be President. He’s not as clueless as Ryan, but his self-interest is every bit as naked. He’s also, AFAIKT, smarter than Tim Ryan — not a high bar — so the abuse he’s currently taking from his actual constituents & people threatening to donate to a challenger might persuade him to change his mind, she said optimistically.
I’m surprised Prez ToadGlanz hasn’t announced his run for it yet.
Yeesh. Is that from the Cal Fire interactive map widget? Great resource, but enervating to use.
Our friend is holed up in a Chico hotel. Only know second-hand info but he was one of many who took off in his car, was stuck in traffic and had to hoof it down the road ahead of the fire. Imagine the hundreds who could not hoof it.
@Immanentize: Well our conversation yesterday was pretty intense but he was pretty firm that they are going to be fine financially, only time will do the rest.
Hmmm…if this holds up… Bye Bye Mia.
Conservative Dems want to be the Jill Stein voters of 2018.
@Anne Laurie: I really think that district needs an Ayanna Pressley. All the big name endorsements did bupkus for Capuano, who is a much better progressive than Moulton.
@trollhattan: Yea, the were in two cars and at one point decided to get in one to die together. They are now somewhere near the ocean and planning to get an RV.
@Raven: but it’s not the money, is it. Can you get him to vacation east for a week?
@Immanentize: It just depended I guess, they said the wood posts on the guard rails were in flames. The fence is probably far enough from a fire source to survive. . . I guess.
@Raven: both of my connections in Pardise area are safe. One drove his van with family to relatives south of Chico. Another got himself a hotel room near Chico, and finally had time to reply to concerned emails three or four days after he went missing. He lost every damn thing except his car and clothing on his back. My office is taking up collections for them, since both used to work here.
@Raven: Crazy what fire leaves. Different crazy what water leaves. I like to remember how fragile all my stuff is….
I spoke with a couple who lost their retirement home after 32 years. The coast is filled with evacuees and the strike team we sent, 17 firefighters from five local agencies headed home today.
Humboldt has already raised more than $22,000 and the Rotary clubs have a goal of $20,000 by Dec. 7.
There are countless deeds being done across the region and an extraordinary amount of relief effort is being done.
Keep sounding that alarm Stacey. I posted in another thread about some study showing that the Blue Wave from the last midterms was due in large part to African American voters voting in larger midterms numbers than before.
Imagine if the same voter suppression shit that went on in GA & FL had happened in more places…how many of these close results may the Dems have lost!
I see more than a few of the MSM trying to make Abrams stop saying the GA election was stolen…but none of them are ready for a Black candidate like Abrams who knows how to make her point eloquently but forcefully…and NOT backing down!
Dems need more like Stacey and Gillum, IMHO.
@Immanentize: As of yesterday they were going to try something like that. We lived in the same house in Champaign in 1972 and were in the VVAW together. He moved out there 4 decades ago and we’ve just barely stayed in touch, every 5 years or so a quick email. The last time I saw him was a crazy thing where I ran into him in the Rose Bowl restroom during Olympic Soccer in 84.
@HumboldtBlue: He just retired from a Tech Firm he was CEO of in Chico. We’re sending to the Golden Valley Bank Community Fund and he was happy when I told him that.
@Raven: I am hoping for the best for him and his wife. The two cars story really hit home for me.
@lamh36: Good. Kemp is dangerous. He is basically a Kobach, except with brains enough to do much more damage to civil rights. Kobach can’t really get much done outside Kansas other than grifting off of wingnut dupes.
The corporate media may try a false equivalence between GOP/Trumspter BS and what Abrams is saying. But who cares what they say, as long as she is good enough TV for them to put her on. She has the facts and the history on her side and can communicate both very effectively. And I think public is on Abrams’ side, if she can squeeze in a good face for popular voting rights reform at the end of her pitch. Corporate media will think public on Abrams side is insane, but I think it is true, and Abrams is kind of person who can make it more true.
Margaret Thatcher…REALLY my dude…really.
@Immanentize: It floored me as well. He was in the Ashau Valley and knows what it is to be terrified and I’m sure he didn’t want to do it again.
Are they afraid she won’t try to impeach? Or afraid that she might become President and take this rare opportunity away from their chosen Person? It does somewhat remind me of the opportunism of Sanders’ campaign when he thought Trump would surely lose.
@jl: What gives you the idea he has brains enough to do anything?
@lamh36: Hey, check yourself. Moulton’s infant daughter probably does speak his kind of language. So could be true.
@Raven: When I read your comment about him, I worried for the effects of renewed PTSD symptoms on the combat vets and others living there.
@Raven: And he shouldn’t have had to be terrified again. It’s like the young man, a gun enthusiast, who survived Las Vegas but got shot at Thousand Oaks. You should get a pass after you go through one serious hell.
Brian Kemp and the Triumph of Mediocrity
Is Tim Ryan a relation of Jonah Ryan?
Says the guy who spells it “colour.”
@Aleta: This crew has done this before. It may be reflex with them.
@Aleta: Well he certainly is worried about his wife in that regard. After talking with him it was obvious he needed to talk about it but I also am confident they’ll be ok.
Well … considering that the US has been screwing over people and governments in South America since the Monroe Doctrine, I’m guessing it’s safe to say that pretty much everything that goes wrong down there can be traced back to us – except for the things that can be traced back to Spain and Portugal.
there is no such thing as a reasonable Conservative. They all eventually stay true to form…especially the Never-Chumpers…best believe soon as Chump is gone…they’ll be back to their usual anti-Dem stuff. Until then they’ll try to claim to just be giving Dems advice…
@jl: I think the Kemp corruption story is not over. Abrams took it nationwide in real time, and now she’s keeping the story open for ongoing developments instead of letting the media reduce them to tiny postscripts.
Gin & Tonic:
I suspect it’s more like trying to be the best surfing spot in, well, Nevada.
They think a mediocre white male conservative can do a better job than a San Francisco Values woman with a stellar track record.
One aspect of the ReThug’s dictating the “narrative” and the MSM’s willing complicity, is there are Democrats who believe It.
@JGabriel: Didn’t we support attempted coups against Chavez *twice*? [not excusing Chavez/Maduro’s incompetence & authoritarianism, just noting that we don’t have clean hands.]
@lamh36: Yeap. “Tom, the evidence is in the fucking newspaper! Do you -read-?”
I tasted wine from Pahrump several years ago when I was still drinking. It was dreary, as is Pahrump.
@Gin & Tonic:
The question is whether she voted for the dead brothel owner for NV state assembly.
He was going to, until Kelly pointed out the part in the constitution where it says you can’t work for two different branches of the federal government.
That’s why Trump has been in such a pissy mood since the elections. He figured he didn’t have anything to worry about, ‘cuz he could just make himself Speaker, and now that he knows he can’t (Damn you, Kelly!), he just cries himself to sleep at night whimpering, “Where’s my Hopey?“
@Jay: I think that proves my point.
Even worse, I’m sure Moulton thought that was compliment.
I note the bitter and envious hatred of Nevada on this blog. But I will stand strong for the honor of the state next to my state.
First they came for the Pahrump wine, then they came for the Pisco Punch…
Gin & Tonic
@jl: Envious? Of Pahrump? Perhaps you have consumed too much of that wine.
What is this substance you call “alooo minnum”? ;)
I used to surf the Tofino area year round in the late ‘70’s to the early ‘90’s.
Then they opened a surf shop, surf schools, and the place got way too crowded. You might have to share a break with another surfer, or in the winter, an entire beach with another surfer.
Switched to Cape Scott, then when that got too crowded, ( seeing one other surfer on a long weekend), stopped surfing there, too.
Or France, Britain, Germany, Russia or various South American governments.
Someone should propose that Trump support another coup against Chavez. (Evil grin.)
“We are herd animals” would be better.
Forgive me if someone else has brought this up, but The Onion is a satire site. What this guy created is not satire. There have been a slew of similar sites, and all of their creators really need to look up the definition of satire, because they are doing it wrong.
The Currant was the only one I can remember right now, but the problem was that their articles were too close to the truth for satire, and people were passing them around after reading just the headline because they were often believable.
When you are talking about the species as a whole, the singular is fine.
@Jay: Lot of haters on this blog.
@Jay: Um, the joke I was making is that Nevada is landlocked … and that trying to pick the best place to grow wine in a state that’s mostly known for desert and radioactive fallout, is as counter-intuitive as trying to pick the best place to go surfing in a state that’s mostly known for desert, radioactive fallout, and being landlocked.
Oh well, I guess it just wasn’t that funny of a joke. They can’t all be winners.
Calling Adam… MiddleEastEye:
It’s crazy enough to be true, given the “leaders” we have in the Executive Branch these days.
The Guy didn’t create a “satire site”, he created a “fake news” aggregator, with everything clearly marked as fake news and debunked.
Instead of becoming a source for people to use to debunk their Reich Wing Uncle’s Book of Faces rants and screeds,
It became instead a one stop shopping source for insane wingnuts, who used it to fill their daily Book of Faces rants.
Unintended consequences based on underestimating the stupidity and venality of much of the American Public.
@TenguPhule:Venezuala’s collapse is an example of relying on an oil economy. I’m in Alaska so I can relate. But its held up as the example of what socialism results in. (There are lots of other issues too)
It’s not that I hate Nevada wine, it’s just that I’m not sure it’s healthy for a glass of wine to glow in that particular shade of greenish red.
Downwinder Sparking White
Donner Party Ripple
@TenguPhule: more than likely they’re doing it to have another reason to ban the brown folks from entering the country…
The Turks have distributed the tapes and other evidence globally.
Juan Cole at Informed Comment suggest’s that the Insane Clown POSus’s Administrations attempted moves are not about saving Mohammed Bone Saw’s ass, but instead their own.
For those speculating that Ergodan’s using this to “trade” for something,
The Turk’s have already put it all out there.
This is not about dealmaking, it’s about bringing Mohammed Bone Saw and the Sawdi’s down.
It’s not gonna hurt Prince Kushner’s relationship or US arms sales, for now,
But it is going to result in EU and others sanctions against Sawdi Arabia.
@Another Scott: Reading that makes me want to throw up.
@trnc: I want them to elect Hillary Speaker.
O really? Don’t the Europeans buy Saudi Oil, unlike the US ( mostly)?
I also think there is huge failure when the murder of one person – who might know politicians – is enough to draw sanctions, but the war crimes in Yemen are not enough.
@lamh36: I predicted 50. I’ll take 40.
@Baud: Or do they want to be like the Tea Party back when, as a minority of the Republican reps in the R-controlled House, they blocked any R legislation that would raise taxes?
It is plodding and rhetorically tone-deaf. The plural subject “we” practically cries out for a plural object, and the presence of “herd,” denoting a group of more than one animals, makes the own-goal “a herd animal” even more glaring. Something can be narrowly grammatical and still sound like crap.
Adds a +1
Unless your name is Dick Cheney.
I guess it’s time for me to hit the hay, because my eyes are so tired that I just initially scanned that as Donner Party Nipple, which gave a whole new meaning to the word breast-feeding that I’d never previously considered, and that I now rather wish I hadn’t.
@JGabriel: @Jay: :” a glass of wine to glow in that particular shade of greenish red. ”
You two yokels are confusing Pahrump wine with the special Washoe County Holiday Season recipes for Pisco Punch. That’s your problem right there.
I have my Holiday orders in to the finest Pisco Punch vendor in Reno, do you?
And that stuff does have an eerie fluorescent glow to it.
Something the orcs BBQ’d, ate and shit out.
That is your opinion, and I respect it.
I live in California surrounded on three sides by federal forests.
Trump has yet to rake a single square meter this year.
Don’t forget the Vatican, who divvied up South America between the Spanish and the Portugese.
Same Vatican (different pope) who gave Ireland to the English. Same Vatican (different popes) who covered up the pedophiles. Need I go on?
@Jay: Boom’s Farm Fire Ball
There’s lot’s of sources of oil other than Sawdi,
The Europeans mostly buy Russian and former Soviet Oil and have struck deals for Iranian and Iraqi Oil.
The Sawdi’s dominance of the oil perception, was that with US Military backing and the largest “proven” cheap oil reserves, they could economically crush any other member of OPEC, by overproducing and driving down prices.
Their control of the OPEC Syndicate gave them global control of oil pricing.
Unfirtunately for them, bad practices, over pumping, salt intrusion, left them unable to produce the volumes needed to keep oil prices down during Dolt 45’s WW Me Too and probably crippled a lot of their reserves.
Not that long ago, they tried to overproduce to kill off “nonconventional oil producers”, and failed, instead they were blowing through their Soverign Wealth Fund at up to $100 million a day, and had to introduce “austerity” measures, from slashing subsidies to not paying their bills.
In the process, along with their attacks on Quatar, they “broke” OPEC.
Mohammed Bone Saw’s kidnapping and torturing the Sawdi Wealthy to shake them down for money, has stuck a paltry amount back in the bank.
That greenish glow comes from the antifreeze, or the Nevada Test Site.
@Jay: Nevada Test Site is a popular cocktail in some parts. I’ve never tried it, though.
After it hardens you can use it for an emergency road flare if you can break it in half.
Bradstreet was a serial cancer / autism scammer who killed himself after the FBI knocked at his door… he started out as a preacher, trying to exorcise the Demons of Autism, but shifted to Alternative Medicine as potentially more profitable. His family decided that the most appropriate tribute to his career of fraud would be to set up a GoFundMe account to scam money from strangers (purportedly to re-investigate his suicide).
The interesting thing about the whole “Suspicious Deaths of Doctors” is that we know the grifters who started it.
@opiejeanne: Heck, I constantly see stories from The Onion being passed around by the few remaining wingnuts on my Facebook feed. They can’t seem to discern between satire and reality. Too subtle, I guess.
Oh, and they seem to distrust Snopes, says it is biased.
@Another Scott: Also from your link:
And last week a Saudi prosecutor said he wanted the death penalty for the people who committed the murder.
They’re not at all concerned, not MsB, not Pompeo.
JFC I’m an idiot.
Venezuela’s biggest problems don’t come from being a PetroState,
They come from a rich/poor divide that traces all the way back to the Spanish Conquest.
Juan Cole says otherwise.
Part of the problem with being both a lousy and stupid poker player, is you have to keep doubling down on your hand to stay in the game,….
It’s an important point. Wonder if it’s related to the idea that our brains accept or disregard information depending on whether it confirms what we already believe.
BTW, keep in mind that these are “Bubble Boys”. They are trying to craft a “narrative” and show trials that get’s them off all “scot free”, relying soley on the information, perceptions and beliefs of those also in the same bubble.
Checking in on Butte County and tonight’s Camp Fire status:
Death toll 79
Dwellings lost approaching 12,000
At some point tomorrow night rain will hit the region, greatly helping firefighters and hindering those searching for further remains. Temperatures were so high little remains of many victims beyond ash and a few teeth, and coroners warn many will never be found and a significant fraction of those discovered won’t be identified. Have not read an update of the missing persons count; here’s hoping it’s plummeting.
There’s some of that. The AOC/Pelosi/Sunshine narrative wound up “perfectly” crafted, by a combo of ReThug input and MSM shitstirring to bring back the 2016 Primary Vendetta’s.
Part of it too, is it’s easier to read the narrative than cynically research the narrative.
Eg. Google the actress mentioned in the Avenatti accusations.
Bare IMBD profile, then nothing.
No wiki, no Twitter, no Linked In,
The #8 google site referencing her is a foot fetish site, obsessing about her feet, in one scene, in a movie I’ve never heard of.
@Aleta: These people. G.W. Bush looking into Putin’s eyes & seeing his soul, Trump & Kim, Trump saying Putin was “very forceful” in his denial of election high jinks, so of course he believed him, now this schmuck from Kansas gets suckered by Murder, Inc.
@Aleta: Maybe not, but maybe.
Al Jazeera (from October 16):
MBS apparently thinks that he can solve all his problems with money, or threats to withhold money. It will be interesting to see how this all turns out. Given our “leadership”, its hard to imagine it turning out well for truth and justice and all those ideals that we claim are so important…
I hope the new House investigates this incident and does so thoroughly.
Like I said already,
Turkey’s put everything out world wide.
There’s no putting the genie back in the bottle.
This is not about a “Turkish deal”,
It’s about taking Sawdi Arabia “down”.
@Jay: I hope he’s right. But does Cole think Saudi distribution of power will be affected by this?
Our admin looks complcit, but they’re going for ‘US-Americans don’t need to care about Saudi affairs,’ which has already been our mindset for years.
Even the report a while ago that MBS had disappeared his mother because she opposed him was softened by our media; and seemed to disappear into all the stories that explained MBS as a young reformer who might be OK with women driving. Seems like as long as he remains, the Trump admin won’t be blamed in the end for keeping the investment pipeline in place. Because money-making is keeping support for the administration in place, imo. I don’t know much about SA, just speculating, so I hope I’m wrong.
More than half of the expatriates, investment funding, military and security support that keeps the Kingdom of Sawdi Arabia running, don’t come from the US.
Canadian Doctors and medical staff are already repatriating themselves from the Kindom.
I don’t think Hair Twitler can send 25,000 from the US to back fill them.
@Another Scott: That’s interesting.
@Jay: I think Germany has halted arms sales to SA, but what about UK and France? It’s hard to imagine Trump will.
Would Lockheed Martin do anything out of conscience? Even if they wanted to, could they cancel the production orders they’ve already taken from SA?
What’s Canada doing about its arms sales contracts with the Saudis?
France and the EU have embargoed arms sales and sanctioned 18 Sawdi’s.
LockMart won’t do anything unless the the US does something.
@Aleta: I found this in the Globe and Mail from Oct. 22:
Sister Golden Bear
It’s just under 700 as of tonight. Far better than before, but still likely to be far too high in the end.
Salman has Alzheimers, so yes, he is often unaware of many things.
@Gin & Tonic wrote:
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): “Filing divorce” doesn’t begin to cover it culo – they’re asking for a restraining order on reality.
Maybe what the common interest of humanity (once sanity is back in charge), is something like Heinlein’s “Coventry” (1940): a livable territory safely divorced ;^D from the rest of humanity where anyone who can’t (or won’t**) be reconciled to the notion that all sentient individuals are “created equal [&] endowed … with certain inalienable rights” is consigned. Doubt that could be anywhere on Earth (too easy to break out) or for that matter anywhere in cislunar space (you don’t give malcontents the high ground to lob rocks onto the home planet). Alternate timeline maybe? Gotta work on that…
**NB Heinlein’s post-Second-Revolution USA offers individuals the choice of psychological “readjustment” which they may choose at any time before or for that matter after banishment (if they can make it back to the gate).
@Uncle Cosmo, @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): FTR the “culo” in my reply was a remnant of an earlier draft & was not at all directed at Smedley but at the imbeciles he calls out. Mea gulpa, mea gulpa, mea maxima gulpa…
@Jay: Just FTR, “Radioactive Rose” is actually the original “Cracklin’ Rosie” – you understand the name when you turn on a working Geiger counter anywhere nearby – or for that matter, downwind…