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You are here: Home / Past Elections / Election 2018 / NC-09 Update

NC-09 Update

by David Anderson|  December 5, 20188:14 pm| 38 Comments

This post is in: Election 2018, Goddamned Traitors, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome, Are these Nazis Walter?, Blatant Liars and the Lies They Tell, Fucked-up-edness, Get Mad You Sons Of Bitches, Good News For Conservatives

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People will be going to jail for this:

NC-9 scandal: More than a thousand absentee ballots possibly destroyed https://t.co/PDoeOEL1q2 @DrewGriffinCNN reports @TheLeadCNN

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) December 6, 2018

"The case for election fraud [in North Carolina] appears to be strong … it's a slew of evidence."

*Signed voter affidavits
*Ballot harvester admission
*History of shady activity
*Weird absentee vote pattern
*Absentee partisanship makes no sensehttps://t.co/S7PgP9SOC8

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 5, 2018

Reminder, as Flynn will testify, the first enthusiastic and accurate flipper can get a damn good deal.

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Corner Stone

    December 5, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    People will be going to jail for this

    Hmmm…in NC? Wait to see it.

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    December 5, 2018 at 8:17 pm

    The D’s need their own version of Brooks Brother’s Riots in NC, WI and MI.

  3. 3.

    TenguPhule

    December 5, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    People will be going to jail for this:

    DOJ says “whut?”

  4. 4.

    Corner Stone

    December 5, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    Weird absentee vote pattern

    From the relatively small amount of coverage I have consumed, this seems to be the key to this election fraud.

  5. 5.

    seaninclt

    December 5, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    Ah my district. So, so much to be proud of.

  6. 6.

    Timurid

    December 5, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    “Steel-toed Redwings Riot” has a nice ring to it…

  7. 7.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??

    December 5, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    I’m so glad “election fraud” is being used instead of “voter fraud”.

  8. 8.

    Mandalay

    December 5, 2018 at 8:30 pm

    People will be going to jail for this

    Let’s use a black woman in Texas who voted when she didn’t realize that she was ineligible as a benchmark: 5 years in the slammer!

    Soooooooo, if some nice, white Republicans destroyed several hundred ballots: they didn’t realize it was wrong, so a stern speech from the judge, and promises to not get caught when they do it again, should make everything go away. Seems about right.

  9. 9.

    rikyrah

    December 5, 2018 at 8:34 pm

    This story is tailor made for a good local reporter.

  10. 10.

    JWL

    December 5, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    “Reminder, as Flynn will testify, the first enthusiastic and accurate flipper can get a damn good deal”.

    Ben Stone and Jack McCoy taught me that years ago.

  11. 11.

    Patricia Kayden

    December 5, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    With all that’s going on, this country doesn’t feel like a democracy. This has got to change. When people vote and their votes aren’t counted, this is not a democracy. And what’s going on in MI, WI and OH is beyond outrageous. Republicans in those states have nullified the will of the voters.

  12. 12.

    NotMax

    December 5, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

  13. 13.

    Gvg

    December 5, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    Earlier on in the story, they indicated this fraud went back to the primary, and this crook beat a different GOP candidate, with the same kind of suspicious absentee ballot pattern. I think I remember that the defeated GOP guy was the incumbent too. My impression is they needed to redo the election and possibly the primary. If the primary guy is convicted, I would assume he can’t run. If it was an incumbent, the Republicans might not close ranks with him.
    The actual fraudster was a campaign worker. The candidate apparently offered a bonus if he won. The key will be proving he knew what he hired.
    The latest seems to indicate the campaign guy has done it for several elections over the years which IMO means the candidate probably did know. I don’t know if this might lead to other past elections being questioned? Can that even happen? What remedies are available in the law?

  14. 14.

    Ken

    December 5, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    @Corner Stone: It might happen. As I understand it, some of this was Republican-on-Republican during the primaries, and they might want to stop that before it gets out of hand.

  15. 15.

    Corner Stone

    December 5, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    @Ken: The R winner is a pastor! No way he could have done anything wrong.

  16. 16.

    Mnemosyne

    December 5, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    @Gvg:

    Yeah, that’s the wild card in this — the fraud seems to have begun with the primary where the Republican incumbent was beaten by the guy who then proceeded to cheat in the general election, too. If he had only cheated the Democrat, the NC Republican Party would close ranks immediately, but the fact that he cheated their guy, too, means they may actually be willing to let justice take its course since they can easily repudiate him as “not our guy.”

  17. 17.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 5, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    People will be going to jail for this:

    Yeah, I bet they’ll put some of those elderly black Democrats who handed over their ballots in jail by the time it’s over.

  18. 18.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 5, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    People will be going to jail for this:

    Oh pls, oh pls, oh pls, oh pls, oh pls….

  19. 19.

    oatler.

    December 5, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    General Sherman was way too merciful.

  20. 20.

    Mary G

    December 5, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    @rikyrah: It was broken entirely by a reporter for a local TV station, Joe Bruno. He obtained all the original voter affadavits and published the testimony. I’m sure the state would have certified this without all the attention:

    One of his co-workers found that the fraud extended to more than one county:

    New from @AllisonWSOC9:She dug through hundreds of documents out of Robeson County Wednesday related to allegations of fraud in #NC09. She discovered a link to similarities Channel 9 uncovered in Bladen County #ncpol @wsoctv https://t.co/RzE7e3x6r1— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) December 6, 2018

  21. 21.

    trnc

    December 5, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  ??:

    I’m so glad “election fraud” is being used instead of “voter fraud”.

    Amen. NPR did a reasonably good story on it tonight, except for the fact that they called it voter fraud.

  22. 22.

    tobie

    December 5, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    Sorry if this is a stupid question but would NC voters have been protected from this kind of election fraud if the Supreme Court hadn’t gutted the VRA and the pre clearance requirements? If so, we should be screaming this from the rafters. HR1 cannot be introduced and passed fast enough.

  23. 23.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 5, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    @tobie:
    Facts don’t matter to fascists.

  24. 24.

    VOR

    December 5, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Obligatory relevant quote: “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” – Joseph Stalin

    Republicans are drawing inspiration from the best sources. They are using The Handmaid’s Tale and 1984 as instruction manuals and Stalin as an electoral mentor.

  25. 25.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    December 5, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    I’m OK with the notion of capital punishment for all co-conspirators in this scheme.

    Let them scream their love for Jesus and white America from the gurney as they meet their deserved end.

  26. 26.

    Mary G

    December 5, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Republicans in Pennsylvania say “hold my beer”

    Another story to watch: Pennsylvania Republicans are threatening to deny a senate seat to the Democrat who won it, because they're not satisfied with her evidence that she moved to the state four years before the election. https://t.co/GwFu1sfLDg— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) December 6, 2018

  27. 27.

    Obdurodon

    December 5, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    So there are more ballots involved here than in all the ineligible-voter fraud *ever* of the sort that Republicans have used to rationalize their vote-suppressing BS, but does anyone think they’ll show any shame or shut up about it? As IF. That would require a degree of self-awareness somewhat above that of the average flatworm.

  28. 28.

    PsiFighter37

    December 5, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    @Mary G: PA Dems have got to find a way to un-fuck the district lines in the state legislature…the GOP has been running the show there for way, way, WAY too long.

  29. 29.

    Shana

    December 5, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    @Gvg: To be fair, many campaign managers and possibly other staffers frequently get bonuses if their candidate wins.

    Doesn’t excuse all the other stuff, but the bonus in and of itself doesn’t mean that much.

  30. 30.

    glory b

    December 5, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    And just to add special sauce, PA repubs pay the Green party enough to get on the ballot.

  31. 31.

    Redshift

    December 5, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    @Obdurodon: The response from the NC GOP, from what I’ve heard, was to introduce a new voter ID bill.

    But in general, they’re not going to shut up because they already know full well that the voter ID crusade isn’t about voter fraud. We know because they keep designing bills to make it harder for Democrats to get the specified ID.

  32. 32.

    Brendan in NC

    December 5, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    @tobie: Definitely, maybe!! Long answer – VRA had mainly been used with regard to redistricting issues. Normally, this type of thing might not apply. However, NC is embroiled in lawsuits, regarding gerrymandering; and the Republican led legislature has continued to put forth replacement maps that do not fix the issue. They might have needed to be redrawn. I’ve seen a map drawn by an independent committee that looked perfect – 5R, 5D, and 3 tossup districts. Which means the Republican majority won’t go for it.

  33. 33.

    Procopius

    December 5, 2018 at 11:34 pm

    People will be going to jail for this:

    Ah, hope springs eternal in the human breast. I suppose it’s a good thing. Otherwise the species would die out.

  34. 34.

    Procopius

    December 5, 2018 at 11:38 pm

    @Corner Stone: I would say the key is the affidavits which reporters and newspapers have been gathering. Dozens of them so far, and potentially hundreds. Including from people who were paid for picking up unsealed ballots, who are themselves in jeopardy because what they did was illegal. “I didn’t know it was illegal because he’s been doing this for years,” one of them said. I hope they all get immunity for testifying. I don’t know anything about the District Attorney there and haven’t seen any reporting on that aspect of it.

  35. 35.

    Procopius

    December 5, 2018 at 11:49 pm

    @oatler.: I don’t think Gen. Sherman was too merciful, but I’ve come to the conclusion that Abe was. Every official in the Confederate States of America and every soldier in their armies, was guilty of treason (as defined in Article III of the Constitution). They should at least have tried and convicted Jefferson Davis, Alexander H. Stephens, General Robert E. Lee and every other flag officer in the military. Lincoln could have granted amnesty, but the fact of their treason should have been carved in stone. The military officers at that level were all oath-breakers, too, although that’s not a civil crime in our country. They had all sworn to defend the Constitution before they waged war against it.

  36. 36.

    Procopius

    December 5, 2018 at 11:59 pm

    @Gvg: Interestingly, one women who was paid $100 to collect ballots, said, “I didn’t know it was illegal. He’s been doing this for many years.” They got themselves a can of worms there. The truly astonishing thing, the election commission voted unanimously to withhold certification. That means there are Republicans left in this country who are honest enough to recoil from this dreck.

  37. 37.

    Uncle Cosmo

    December 6, 2018 at 5:49 am

    @Procopius: “That means there are Republicans left in this country who are honest enough to recoil from this dreck.”

    Um, no, it only means that their own ox was gored when Rev. Fuckhead ratfucked the GOP incumbent in exactly the same fashion in the primary. As pointed out by Mnem in #16 supra,

    If he had only cheated the Democrat, the NC Republican Party would close ranks immediately, but the fact that he cheated their guy, too, means they may actually be willing to let justice take its course since they can easily repudiate him as “not our guy.”

  38. 38.

    Just Chuck

    December 6, 2018 at 10:10 am

    You know damn well these antics weren’t confined to a single election in a single state. I hope this comes out in the investigation.

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