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Evening Open Thread

by Cheryl Rofer|  December 6, 20185:11 pm| 159 Comments

This post is in: Cat Blogging, Humorous, Open Threads

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I just love this video, have been watching it all afternoon.

Watch these wildlife officials struggle to stay alive as they release the world's most badass bobcat kitten back into the wild. The bobcat, who we're calling Mr. Murderbritches, was relocated after he was caught eating ??? in Kanarraville, UT.

Long live Mr. Murderbritches! pic.twitter.com/j0ABaR8cqk

— Center for Bio Div (@CenterForBioDiv) December 5, 2018

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  1. 1.

    West of the Rockies

    December 6, 2018 at 5:17 pm

    Damn! That is one bad-ass kitty boy!

  2. 2.

    scav

    December 6, 2018 at 5:20 pm

    love the profundo growl from the wee bit.

  3. 3.

    VeniceRiley

    December 6, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    d’awwwww

  4. 4.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 6, 2018 at 5:31 pm

    Resembles me trying to put ointment on my 18 lb cat’s eyes

    I wilz cut yoo.

  5. 5.

    germy

    December 6, 2018 at 5:34 pm

    Someone uploaded “The Courtship of the Newt” to youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKmEWwayKo4

    80 year old short film about aquatic life.

  6. 6.

    trollhattan

    December 6, 2018 at 5:35 pm

    Gaw dayumn, dude wished he carried his four-foot pliers to the office that day. “Mr. Murderbritches” FTW.

  7. 7.

    Burnspbesq

    December 6, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    Cole’s new spirit animal.

  8. 8.

    Ohio Mom

    December 6, 2018 at 5:37 pm

    Good luck Mr. Murderbritches!

    Something tells me Knarraville was a much more sedate place than the middle-of-nowhere you now find yourself in.

    Hope your instincts serve you well and that you don’t find yourself impinging on somebody bigger’s territory.

  9. 9.

    germy

    December 6, 2018 at 5:39 pm

    What else is there to do in Kanarraville, UT besides eat chickens?

  10. 10.

    trollhattan

    December 6, 2018 at 5:41 pm

    Damn, my yout keeps taking curtain calls.

    Buzzcocks lead singer Pete Shelley has died at 63 of a suspected heart attack.

    The punk band are best known for their hit, Ever Fallen in Love (With Someone You Shouldn’t’ve). Their management told the BBC that Shelley died on Thursday in Estonia where he was living.

    BBC music correspondent Lizo Mzimba said Buzzcocks, who formed in Bolton in the 1970s, were regarded as more polished, but musically no less influential, than the Sex Pistols.

    The band have tweeted saying Shelley was “one of the UK’s most influential and prolific songwriters and co-founder of the seminal original punk band Buzzcocks”. His music inspired generations of musicians over a five-decade career with his band and as a solo artist, they said.

    Sixty-three, and Paul Sherwin was 62. Kids!

  11. 11.

    dmsilev

    December 6, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    @germy:

    Someone uploaded “The Courtship of the Newt” to youtube:

    If I remember the 1990s correctly, it involved a large amount of hypocrisy and infidelity, and a helmet-hair style that Cindy McCain did her best to emulate.

  12. 12.

    trollhattan

    December 6, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    @germy:
    SWAG–chase chickens.

  13. 13.

    ruemara

    December 6, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    #TeamMurderbritches

  14. 14.

    CliosFanBoy

    December 6, 2018 at 5:45 pm

    Don;t f with the Bobcats dude!! GO OU!!!! (Ohio, not those bozos in Texas-lite, AKA Oklahoma)

  15. 15.

    Raven

    December 6, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    Speaking of nature.We are driving back to Cape Coral after and hour fishing trip in 10,000 Islands! Incredibly beautiful, lots of fish and wonderful birds!

  16. 16.

    eclare

    December 6, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    Awesome kitty name!

  17. 17.

    trollhattan

    December 6, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    Xcel Energy announces zero carbon goal of 100% by 2050, 89% by 2030. The supposedly serve 3.6 million, or about 1.5% of US.

  18. 18.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 6, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    Grab that pussy if you dare, Doll Hands. In Soviet America, pussy grabs you. What a cute ferocious kitteh!

  19. 19.

    lamh36

    December 6, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    So, Black Panther is the first superhero movie (ever) to receive a Golden Globe nomination in the Best Motion Picture Drama category.

    Oh…now I see why all the haters have come out!

    SEETHE HATERS SEETHE!!!

  20. 20.

    Immanentize

    December 6, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    @trollhattan:
    “There is no love in this world anymore!”

  21. 21.

    lamh36

    December 6, 2018 at 5:53 pm

    The cast of #BlackPanther have announced The Black Panther Scholarship!

    This scholarship will reward one student from The Hollywood Reporter’s Women in Entertainment Mentorship Program with a $250,000 full-ride to Loyola Marymount University: https://trib.al/U4CzBh7

  22. 22.

    germy

    December 6, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    For the United States of America. pic.twitter.com/sQUkMH4Urx— Ayanna Pressley (@AyannaPressley) December 6, 2018

  23. 23.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 5:59 pm

    @trollhattan

    Recently learned of the Deanston whisky distillery in Scotland, which is 100% energy self-sufficient from hydropower and produces enough surplus to pump that into the grid.

  24. 24.

    MattF

    December 6, 2018 at 6:01 pm

    @scav: Hearing a little kitty growl like that gives one pause. Grrrr.

  25. 25.

    JanieM

    December 6, 2018 at 6:02 pm

    The video reminds me of this oldie but goodie: How to give a cat a pill, and a dog, too.

  26. 26.

    debbie

    December 6, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    Take that, stick!

  27. 27.

    Hungry Joe

    December 6, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    DOG ATTACK UPDATE: Good visit to the vet yesterday. He removed the drain from Alice’s belly and there is, so far, no infection or dead tissue. We reduced the pain meds — switched from a fentanyl patch to codeine pills, and she’s now off those, too — and by last night she was eating (a little) and drinking. We went on a short walk to the corner and back. The horrid Cone will be on for at least another ten days (the wounds are that bad), but she’s already starting to act like Alice again. Such a relief. It’s a Happy Hanukkah after all.

  28. 28.

    Cheap Jim

    December 6, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    Ah, but have you seen a Pallas cat being weighed and radio tagged? With bonus central Asian throat singing!
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjg6dKYpozfAhXSslkKHRLOBmwQyCkwAHoECAYQBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-_LGaK3oxIk&usg=AOvVaw2xi1kTpYYJAvlJ7YC3QR4Y

  29. 29.

    debbie

    December 6, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    @Hungry Joe:

    Good for Alice. Where is the neighbor’s dog?

  30. 30.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    @lamh36:

    I’m annoyed that Michael B. Jordan didn’t get a nomination as Killmonger. ? But Golden Globes voters are weird, so I’m still holding out hope for the Oscars.

  31. 31.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 6, 2018 at 6:11 pm

    Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) on Thursday morning managed to turn a Fox Business Network discussion about Google and China into a bizarre attack on the right’s favorite bogeyman George Soros.

    Fox Business later apologized for the congressman’s comments.

    “You mention Orwell, it also reminds me of another George—George Soros,” Gohmert said, making a clumsy transition during his segment. “Because Google is born in a free country and then they go over and help oppress another country.”

    “George Soros is supposed to be Jewish, but you wouldn’t know it from the damage he’s inflicted on Israel and the fact that he turned on fellow Jews and helped take the property that they own.”

    They just can’t hide it anymore.

  32. 32.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    @lamh36:

    Hey, that’s my employer AND my (grad school) alma mater doing good! ???

    LMU is a private Jesuit university that is quietly a very good school. Their film program is top 10 in the nation, and they don’t have nearly as many resources as USC or UCLA.

  33. 33.

    JPL

    December 6, 2018 at 6:17 pm

    @Hungry Joe: Good news indeed. Hugs to all.

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    @A Ghost To Most

    Fox Business later apologized for the congressman’s comments.

    Yet they’ll invite him back on again and again. Got a quota of stupidity to fill, don’tcha know.

  35. 35.

    Doug R

    December 6, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    @A Ghost To Most: Is Gohmert bucking for a job at Facebook?

  36. 36.

    trollhattan

    December 6, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:
    Needs moar Louie Gohmert flowchart.

  37. 37.

    guachi

    December 6, 2018 at 6:21 pm

    @lamh36: Having seen Black Panther and just about every superhero movie of the last 20 years, it probably didn’t deserve it.

    It wasn’t as good as Logan was, for instance, last year. It wasn’t as good as The Avengers from 2014. It wasn’t as good as Spiderman 2 from 2004. It wasn’t as good as The Dark Knight from 2008.

    The only way it could have deserved it is if the crop of 2018 movies was just not very good.

  38. 38.

    Raven

    December 6, 2018 at 6:22 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Were you there when Hank Gathers died?

  39. 39.

    zhena gogolia

    December 6, 2018 at 6:23 pm

    @germy:

    Cool.

  40. 40.

    lamh36

    December 6, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    @guachi: I disagree.

  41. 41.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    FYI, down Mr. Cole’s way.

    West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice appointed Jill Upson, chairwoman of a PAC called Black Americans for the President’s Agenda, to head West Virginia’s Herbert Henderson Office of Minority Affairs just months after her organization ran a racist ad about Democrats lynching black men. Source

  42. 42.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 6, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    @Doug R: He’s just solidifying his position as the most willfully ignorant member of Congress.

  43. 43.

    lamh36

    December 6, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    @Mnemosyne: to be honest, I’m surprised BP got in with the Hollywood Press, especially since it’s Foreign Press…and BP did great internationally, better than expected, but it’s box office was driven domestically for sure.

  44. 44.

    Skepticat

    December 6, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    @Burnspbesq: True dat!

    Great video! Looks like an industrial-strength version of the trap/neuter/release/pamper program I do here in the Bahamas. I have (and need) elbow-length gloves.

  45. 45.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    Mr. Murderbritches FTW.

    @guachi:

    I totally cannot see any redeeming value in Logan, other than the fidget spinner toy at the end. They might as well have had Logan waterski over a shark.

    @lamh36:
    I’ll see your “Black Panther” scholarship and raise you the “Logan” Scholarship, which will award some lucky kid the chance to be impaled on a tree.

  46. 46.

    Aleta

    December 6, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    More than two dozen lawmakers are demanding an investigation into possible misconduct by U.S. Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta, who, as a former federal prosecutor in Miami, helped broker a secret plea deal for a multimillionaire accused of running an underage sex trafficking network.
    The lawmakers, mostly Democrats, have sent several letters to Michael E. Horowitz, inspector general for the Department of Justice, calling for a probe into Acosta’s role in the 2008 plea deal for Jeffrey Epstein.
    Epstein, 65, a Palm Beach hedge fund manager, faced a possible life sentence for molesting dozens of girls, but was instead granted federal immunity as part of a non-prosecution agreement approved by Acosta when he was U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida.
    Thus far, 34 senators and members of Congress have called for a probe of the Epstein case, including two Republicans, Sen. Marco Rubio and Sen. Ben Sasse, chairman of  the Senate Judiciary Committee’s subcommittee for oversight.

    People have been pressuring lawmakers for this, while keeping the heat on to move the federal case forward.

  47. 47.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 6, 2018 at 6:31 pm

    @guachi: I, for one, do not welcome our new comic overlords .

    They have saturated the market, and then some.

  48. 48.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    Hoocudanode? So much winning (emphasis added).

    The trade deficit rose in October to a 10-year high amid a record shortfall with China, keeping the U.S. on pace to record the largest annual gap in a decade.

    The deficit edged up 1.7% to $55.5 billion from a revised $54.6 billion in September, the Commerce Department said Thursday. That’s the biggest shortfall since October 2008, and ironically, it stems in part from tariffs imposed by President Trump in an effort to reduce the deficit. Source

    Ain’t nothing ironic about it.

  49. 49.

    trollhattan

    December 6, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:
    No shit. Well…yes, shit. Howzabout they get their own category–not comedy (unless it’s Guardians) not drama (pronounced drahmaa) not animation–and fight to the superhero death.

  50. 50.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 6, 2018 at 6:36 pm

    @NotMax: What could go wrong? In West Virginia?

  51. 51.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 6:38 pm

    @guachi:

    I didn’t see “Logan,” but I did see both “Black Panther” and all of the rest that you listed:

    It wasn’t as good as The Avengers from 2014.

    Disagree — “Avengers” has a couple of fun moments, but it’s too scattered.

    It wasn’t as good as Spiderman 2 from 2004.

    Good as Alfred Molina was, I disagree. Peter’s teen angst quickly became tiresome.

    It wasn’t as good as The Dark Knight from 2008.

    Disagree. The “origin story” was too long and they killed off Ras al’Ghul, one of the all-time greatest Batman villains who also just happens to be FUCKING IMMORTAL.

  52. 52.

    lamh36

    December 6, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    @mapaghimagsik: https://media1.tenor.com/images/8ddd86d705603d027820adab48bcd99d/tenor.gif?itemid=5227250

  53. 53.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 6, 2018 at 6:40 pm

    @trollhattan: Hunger Games for Superheroes. I’m in, as long as the ones that die stay dead .No reanimation. Or alternative timelines.

  54. 54.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    @Raven:

    Nope — I was at USC for undergrad. It was huge news locally, for obvious reasons.

    I was at LMU for 9/11. Yay.

  55. 55.

    M. Bouffant

    December 6, 2018 at 6:44 pm

    @Mnemosyne: And KXLU, the only student-run F.M. radio station still on the air in the Southland.

  56. 56.

    ruemara

    December 6, 2018 at 6:53 pm

    @guachi: Gonna completely disagree. Logan is an amazing comic book movie for people who don’t like comic books. Black Panther is head & shoulders above the others and Logan is really just No Country for Superpowered Old Men. Civil War was great but I don’t think Infinity War was as good, although I don’t think the format was capable of delivering the pathos when it was 20k supers running around.

    The other secret thing is that it’s ok to not like something and just let others like things.

  57. 57.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 6:53 pm

    @Mnemosyne: The best thing to come from Dark Knight 2008 was a Bill and Ted Halloween skit skit where both Batman and Ras al’Ghul fight gaining control of an IPhone through Siri, and she can’t understand either one of them.

    @ruemara You’re right! Logan is a great movie for people who don’t like movies.

    Alright, in all fairness I didn’t dislike it that much. I have seen far worse, but the kid was a formulaic shot in the arm into a weakening franchise, and I feel the X Men, as much as I loved their comics and concepts was one of the Marvel attempts that made worse movies than comics. Black Panther, the current reincarnation aside, was a bit of an improvement and Guardians was a huge improvement.

  58. 58.

    KithKanan

    December 6, 2018 at 6:54 pm

    @M. Bouffant: I’m an outsider from the central coast, so I’m curious… Which part of that test does KUCI fail?

  59. 59.

    guachi

    December 6, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Wrong Batman movie. Dark Knight was the one with Heath Ledger that got him the Academy Award. The movie itself wasn’t nominated for Best Picture (though in a day like today where there are more nominees it probably would have).

    Checking Rotten Tomatoes reviews, Black Panther has a higher “recommended” score of 97 to 94% but Dark Knight has a higher average review score of 8.6 to 8.2. 8.6 is crazy high. As a comparison, the 100% Paddington 2 received an average score of 8.7.

    Spider-Man 2 also has a slightly higher score of 8.3. No other super hero movie exceeds BP’s 8.2 that I could find.

  60. 60.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 7:07 pm

    @guachi:

    Dark Knight was the one with Heath Ledger that got him the Academy Award.

    Oh, you mean the one where they hand-wave away the fact that Batman is invading the privacy of hundreds of thousands of people by claiming that he’s totally going to use that power this one time only, pinky swear! Christopher Nolan has a bad habit of raising moral issues and then just dropping them when he gets bored.

    Oh, and I hated Memento because Teddy was right to be frustrated with Leonard and if you go along with the claim that Leonard is faking, the story makes no fucking sense.

    Christopher Nolan is the most overrated director working today. Fight me.

  61. 61.

    jl

    December 6, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    Thanks for cute bobcat video. Brings to mind a news report I heard yesterday that made me reflect on how dumb humans are. A guy was arrested for illegally owning a tiger cub, and abusing it.

    And I thought that was a really dumb thing for the guy to do, even if the law had not caught up with him. A thinking person might reflect that a tiger cub will grow up be a big tiger someday. Even if the law doesn’t get you, do you really want to raise a tiger cub into a big full grown tiger, living with you, and that probably will not like you very much because you were mean to it when it was young?

    A big full grown tiger has a good chance of getting fed up with your shit and taking you out no matter how nice you were to it when it was young. But if you start out being mean to it, how much more likely is that to occur? Tiger probably very much more likely to decide one day that it’s just had enough of your shit, and too likely it would decide that anyway.

    I think house cats decide that on a monthly basis, it’s just that they are not big enough compared to us to do much about it.

  62. 62.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Heath Ledger was a bright spot in a relatively weak plot, but for me, most superhero plots are weak-ish. I’m hoping, with the relatively new crop, like the new Ms Marvel, (not the current, which looks like a fun eye-candy fest, but the Kamala Khan version that will change.

  63. 63.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 7:15 pm

    @jl:

    Tiger probably very much more likely to decide one day that it’s just had enough of your shit, and too likely it would decide that anyway.

    Like all cats, tigers have no interest in pleasing humans — you have to convince them that doing what the human wants will be rewarding for them.

    I almost wish that the tiger had killed the guy, except that it would have had to be euthanized if it did. Once a tiger figures out how easy it is to kill humans, they’ll keep doing it, which is how they end up with man-eating tigers in India.

  64. 64.

    Mayim

    December 6, 2018 at 7:17 pm

    If you like the bobcat video ~ check out Big Cat Rescue (lots of bobcat rehab) and In Sync Exotics (currently three baby rescue tigers name Kylo Ren, Kenobi, and Anakin best night introduced to each other). Both have good Facebook feeds for those there, and BCR has various other webcams.

  65. 65.

    jl

    December 6, 2018 at 7:19 pm

    @Mnemosyne: The tiger cub was so badly abused, IIRC, it needed vet treatment. Apart of the common decency angle, what was this dope thinking?

    Imma gonna own this huge tiger that can destroy me with one swipe, and I am going to make sure it hates my guts, and everything will be great. Imma gonoa be the bigshot around here, and own me a tiger!

    Wild animals tend to be less sentimental about human companionship that common pets, and cats, well its a cat and really cannot be convinced to think much of any not cat sentient being, no matter what you do.

  66. 66.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 6, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    @jl:

    I think house cats decide that on a monthly basis, it’s just that they are not big enough compared to us to do much about it.

    Reason #1,734 I have dogs.

  67. 67.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 7:26 pm

    @mapaghimagsik:

    Author KM Weiland has a blog series called Storytelling According to Marvel, where she uses Marvel movies to explain particular aspects of writing.

    She uses Black Panther to illustrate the importance of theme, because the plot is a little weak, but the audience doesn’t care because every bit of the plot relates to the theme and to T’Challa’s character arc and growth.

    Thing that I think some people still don’t realize about the movie’s prologue: the child who asks for a story about the origins of Wakanda is Erik/Killmonger, not T’Challa.

  68. 68.

    ruemara

    December 6, 2018 at 7:26 pm

    @mapaghimagsik: Oh, don’t even get me started on the X-Men movies. I’m a longstanding Chris Claremont X-men fan & I can hit my “rage against the Peter Jackson 2 Towers & Return of the King movies” levels with all the franchise. DAMMIT. Best team in the MCU & the shitest movies. Avengers were always boring. Thor was boring. WHO THE FUCK EVEN READS GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY. Yet they all rock harder than X-Men on screen. Fuck me running. DO not get me started on the hot ass mess the New Mutants movie looked like in the trailers and absolute 1 note snore-fest Sophie Turner as Phoenix looked like. Better they burn the footage than they release what they did. I swear, this stress should have give me super powers by now. Now I’m angry that I don’t have a mutation gene. Where’s my fucking spandex & eyebeams?!

  69. 69.

    jl

    December 6, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    Which also reminded me of the rich fool in the news who shot a family of baboons. Why would anyone do that? Is that a ‘thing’, shooting some poor family of baboons that was unlucky enough to amble near some rich guy’s vicious ass? I ran across a pic at the top of a follow-up news story on it, and it was worse than I imagined. This oaf sitting there with a pappa and momma baboon, and two little baboon kids all posed together, a nice horrically dead family, all together. Whee!. Why would anyonone do that. Shoot them and then pose them together for that gruesome pic?

    Humans have some serious issues that they need to work out.

  70. 70.

    ruemara

    December 6, 2018 at 7:31 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I felt that was Erik

  71. 71.

    Steve in the ATL

    December 6, 2018 at 7:33 pm

    @trollhattan: aw man. “Ever Fallen in Love (with Someone You Shouldn’t’ve)” came up on iTunes shuffle this morning on the elliptical!

  72. 72.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    @ruemara:

    You were correct! It should have been obvious to everyone by the middle of the movie at the latest, but some people I’ve seen online were apparently still confused. ?‍♀️

  73. 73.

    M. Bouffant

    December 6, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    @KithKanan: I’m talking literally over-the-air; no KUCI broadcast in central L.A. May give their stream a listen, now that I know.

  74. 74.

    ruemara

    December 6, 2018 at 7:37 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I’m still just annoyed with people who think he was a hero. No dammit, he’s a symptom.

  75. 75.

    Steve in the ATL

    December 6, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    @jl: was chatting with some guys at a paper mill earlier this week (yes, h8ters, I am a man of the people!) and the conversation turned to hunting, as it often does. Was pleasantly surprised that they agreed with me about the stupidity of elk hunting. Where’s the challenge in shooting a giant animal that doesn’t move much? Same with elephant hunting, except it’s even worse.

  76. 76.

    PJ

    December 6, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    @trollhattan: Buzzcocks were great (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4xt4KplnQ), and Shelley was the most existential songwriter of his era.

  77. 77.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 6, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    was chatting with some guys at a paper mill earlier this week

    Must have been management.

  78. 78.

    J R in WV

    December 6, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    Mean kitty, staff not worried about mean kitty surviving in the wild, MEAN kitty will do just fine.

    Grrrrwwwwwwow!

    At least the Wildlife guys weren’t hurt, that time.

  79. 79.

    Steve in the ATL

    December 6, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    Funny man!

    Funny, but correct.

  80. 80.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    @ruemara:

    They actually spell it out in dialogue when the CIA guy played by Martin Freeman explains that Killmonger is 100 percent a product of the American government. He is what America made him and that’s why he’s the villain. Why do people want to declare themselves the murderous products of a racist society? He can be genuinely injured by his past while being wrong about his plans for the future.

    Ugh. I also don’t understand people who want to be part of the Empire/New Order in Star Wars and get their stormtrooper on. WTF is up with that?

  81. 81.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    @ruemara:
    Okay, I can totally agree with that . Righteous rant. I wondered at the time whether they would be able to cover the gravity of the Phoenix Saga. Sadly, no, but it might be a story whose time was then and has passed. I believe Guardians worked because they literally were “who?’ and the movie had a completely clean slate to work with.But I think Guardians, Thor, and Avengers managed to leapfrog the comics that inspired them. For some reason, the X-Men just couldn’t.

    Now I *really* wish Defenders would have been Dr Strange, Hulk, Valkyrie, and Hellcat. But that might just be me.

  82. 82.

    ruemara

    December 6, 2018 at 7:55 pm

    @mapaghimagsik: I’m looking forward to them doing Doom Patrol. Especially if it’s the Grant Morrison run. Or flipping to a Secret Empire version of Cap’n. At this point, just leave the X-Men alone.

  83. 83.

    cynthia ackerman

    December 6, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    Kevin Richardson, yo.

  84. 84.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 8:00 pm

    @ruemara: Doom Patrol has some real potential. I hope there isn’t some sort of “inverse potential law” regarding comics to movies, where the more potential the comic provides through its contribution to the comic universe indicates how horrible the movie will be.

    For some reason, when I read Doom Patrol, I read “Metal Men” a comic I confess I barely remember only as the worst introduction to metallurgy ever.

  85. 85.

    Steeplejack

    December 6, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    @cynthia ackerman:

    Link engulfed by the Reply button. Fixed: “Lion Whisperer.”

  86. 86.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    @Steve in the ATL

    was chatting with some guys at a paper mill earlier this week (yes, h8ters, I am a man of the people!)

    Holy sheet.

    :)

  87. 87.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    and they killed off Ras al’Ghul, one of the all-time greatest Batman villains who also just happens to be FUCKING IMMORTAL.

    To be fair, his particular gimmick is coming back from the dead.

  88. 88.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    @NotMax:

    Holy sheet.

    :)

    Don’t make us cut you.

  89. 89.

    SenyorDave

    December 6, 2018 at 8:11 pm

    A story is out there saying William Barr will be nominated to be AG. He’s skeptical of Mueller’s investigation, and according to the Washington Post, last year, Barr said there was more substance to the Clinton-Uranium One situation than the Russia collusion investigation.

    IOW, a complete asshole.

  90. 90.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    @mapaghimagsik

    The original run of Metal Men aspired to be nothing more than goofy fun, a frivol, and mostly succeeded at that so long as they didn’t interact with the rest of the DC stable..

  91. 91.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Christopher Nolan is the most overrated director working today. Fight me.

    Michael Bay.

    A man who ruined giant fucking robots fighting a forever war. FIVE TIMES.

  92. 92.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 8:13 pm

    Corrected linkage.

    @mapaghimagsik

    The original run of Metal Men aspired to be nothing more than goofy fun, a frivol, and mostly succeeded at that so long as they didn’t interact with the rest of the DC stable.

  93. 93.

    Aleta

    December 6, 2018 at 8:13 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: Or a moose, the animal that stands there while you take your picture with it.

  94. 94.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    Re-corrected linkage. FYWP playing dirty today.

    @mapaghimagsik

    The original run of Metal Men aspired to be nothing more than goofy fun, a frivol, and mostly succeeded at that so long as they didn’t interact with the rest of the DC stable.

  95. 95.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    She uses Black Panther to illustrate the importance of theme, because the plot is a little weak, but the audience doesn’t care because every bit of the plot relates to the theme and to T’Challa’s character arc and growth.

    you don’t get to talk about themes after Last Jedi.

  96. 96.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    @NotMax: And according to the inverse potential law should make an incredible movie, of the likes we have never seen!

    @TenguPhule:
    I enjoyed Last Jedi, but I didn’t say *anything* about it. I think the only thing that I found interesting was people who thought the lack of color change in the salt was a mistake. The fact that Luke was a flawed teacher wasn’t enough to carry it for me.

  97. 97.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    @ruemara:

    I’m a longstanding Chris Claremont X-men fan & I can hit my “rage against the Peter Jackson 2 Towers & Return of the King movies” levels with all the franchise.

    To be fair, Two Towers was arguably a better film then the original novel.

  98. 98.

    cynthia ackerman

    December 6, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Many thanks.

    Cat lovers, check it out

  99. 99.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I also don’t understand people who want to be part of the Empire/New Order in Star Wars and get their stormtrooper on. WTF is up with that?

    Bringing order to a chaotic galaxy. Rooting for the Empire is a trope for a reason.

  100. 100.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Was pleasantly surprised that they agreed with me about the stupidity of elk hunting. Where’s the challenge in shooting a giant animal that doesn’t move much?

    You have obviously never had properly made elk sausage. Otherwise you’d know the answer to that already.

  101. 101.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 8:20 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    Say what you will of the Emperor, he made the transports run on time!

  102. 102.

    Patricia Kayden

    December 6, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    @lamh36: And if Black Panther wins, the haters’ heads will collectively explode. Win win.

  103. 103.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:23 pm

    @mapaghimagsik: Having been forced to see it twice, I have come to the cynical conclusion that it was some Disney business management grad’s bright idea to wipe out all of the original characters in order to push a new DISNEY ORIGINAL toy/merchandise line. That’s why they green lit that shit script.

  104. 104.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    @mapaghimagsik

    The modern super-hero movies do nothing for me and I’ve seen much fewer than a handful, each more a disappointing and vapid slog to reach the end credits than the last.

    But if they ever make a comic book-based movie of Bat Lash, that I’d give a gander.

  105. 105.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    @TenguPhule: Its a trope. The master must die to make room for the student to shine, but you might be right. They have to make up for Rogue One, where your choice of action figures are Darth Vader and “Someone who died.”

    It makes for some morose children’s play.

    @NotMax:
    Be careful what you wish for. You might get the CW version of Jonah Hex :-;

  106. 106.

    KithKanan

    December 6, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    @M. Bouffant: I guess I’m not entirely clear on the geographic boundaries of “The Southland”. There seem to be a lot of college stations to the east of you, but I gather Riverside/Pomona/etc are “The I.E.”, not “The Southland”?

  107. 107.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    @mapaghimagsik:

    They have to make up for Rogue One, where your choice of action figures are Darth Vader and “Someone who died.”

    Awesome movie, terrible toyline.

  108. 108.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    @NotMax:

    But if they ever make a comic book-based movie of Bat Lash, that I’d give a gander.

    But not a goose?

    Smite Me, oh PETA Smiters!

  109. 109.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    The latest Trump administration targeting of legacy Obama administration efforts to slow climate change comes in the wake of multiplying warnings from the agency’s scientists and others about the accelerating pace of global warming.

    In a ceremony today at the agency, acting EPA administrator Andrew Wheeler signed a proposal to dismantle a 2015 rule that any new coal power plants include cutting-edge techniques to capture the carbon dioxide from their smokestacks.

    Another Day, another environmental atrocity.

  110. 110.

    trollhattan

    December 6, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    @NotMax:
    He made it up–pulp fiction!

  111. 111.

    trollhattan

    December 6, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    This fuckin’ guy.

  112. 112.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    @TenguPhule

    Must be some confusion. That was G.H.W. Bush who gave a goose.

    ;)

  113. 113.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    @NotMax:

    That was G.H.W. Bush who gave a goose.

    ;)

    By donating it to the Japanese PM’s lap?

  114. 114.

    trollhattan

    December 6, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    Bring back “Battlebots”!

  115. 115.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    I enjoyed the movie because everyone died. But it also underscores the idea that the Empire is completely out of ideas.

    “We shall build a battle station to cow the rebels into submission” (Note, actual battle station did not, in fact, shoot cows at the planet)

    “This is the fourth one, sir. The other three had flaws. Maybe we should try something else”

    *force choke*

  116. 116.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    @mapaghimagsik:

    “This is the fourth one, sir. The other three had flaws. Maybe we should try something else”

    /laugh/groan

    First one. Its the original!!! /raging pedant

  117. 117.

    Gravenstone

    December 6, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    @ruemara:

    Yet they all rock harder than X-Men on screen.

    All because Marvel had sold off the rights to the X-franchise. So the people making those movies had zero idea what to do with the property. Had Marvel retained those rights, we might have a legitimate Dark Phoenix movie eventually, since they are actually introducing the Kree and Skrull with Captain Marvel. From that basis, the Shi’ar wouldn’t be far behind, Then they could properly contextualize the Phoenix (and not toss aside the Hellfire Club in a shit ass useless “reboot” movie).

  118. 118.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    @TenguPhule: I could have been clearer. That scene would be in the latest trilogy, but its like they have this obsessive compulsive tendency to build big round stations that small ships can blow up.

    @Gravenstone: The Imperial Guard could be kind of fun. But I am one of little faith they can do it well. That, and while the Dark Phoenix saga is poignant, it might not have the freshness it once had, even if done well.

  119. 119.

    sm*t cl*de

    December 6, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Shelley died on Thursday in Estonia where he was living.

    I had no idea he’d moved to Tallinn. Living in the Old Town, even. I wonder if he ever went drinking here:
    http://estonianworld.com/life/secrets-of-the-success-behind-tallinns-depeche-mode-bar/

  120. 120.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 6, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    Superheroes, like gods, are magic, and therefore, time wasting bunk. Hokum.

    There is an amazing, real world out there, one that requires no magic. YMMV.

  121. 121.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    @mapaghimagsik

    The Jersey Star. Grade A, cream of the crop cinema.

  122. 122.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    @mapaghimagsik: Had they been smart enough to have adopted Dark Empire or the Thrawn Wars, they’d have made a lot more money then they will now. And retained a lot of customer goodwill.

  123. 123.

    Gravenstone

    December 6, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    @TenguPhule: Hollywood knows that Bay is a shit director. Unfortunately, he’s also good at making the sort of brain dead eye candy that appeals to the slobbering masses, who toss money at the studios to keep making more brain dead eye candy.

  124. 124.

    Amir Khalid

    December 6, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    The Two Towers is not a novel, but the middle volume of a three-volume novel. JRR Tolkien was adamant on this point, and so are his publishers.

  125. 125.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:

    There is an amazing, real world out there, one that requires no magic.

    Which Donald Trump can destroy with a single phone call at any hour, any day.

    Give me magic any day of the week.

  126. 126.

    Mnemosyne

    December 6, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    @mapaghimagsik:

    Grand Moff Tarkin was the real strategist behind the Empire. Once he died, no one else knew what to do, including the Emperor. That’s why the original film shows him as Darth Vader’s superior officer.

    Discuss.

  127. 127.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    @mapaghimagsik:

    That, and while the Dark Phoenix saga is poignant, it might not have the freshness it once had, even if done well.

    We’ll always have the animated adaption.

  128. 128.

    Gravenstone

    December 6, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    @trollhattan: Already out there. Battlebots.

  129. 129.

    TenguPhule

    December 6, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Discuss.

    The Disney Reboot comics makes it clear that the Empire’s most intelligent rank officers became part of the Emperor’s Hunger Game against Vader between IV & V and ended up getting so pruned back that all that remained were the cowed idiots of V & VI.

  130. 130.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    @Amir Khalid

    Before he bequeathed his middle initials to a letter deficient George Martin.

    ;)

  131. 131.

    Aleta

    December 6, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    Joe Bruno @JoeBrunoWSOC9

    Dan McCready tells me he is officially withdrawing his concession.
    In an exclusive interview, he tells me he thinks Mark Harris knew what McCrae Dowless was doing and that Harris bankrolled “criminal activity.”

    Dan McCready: “When I volunteered to serve our country overseas as a Marine, I never expected to come back home and see career criminals attacking our democracy.”

    We’ve called Mark Harris, texted him and even stopped by his house. We have not been able to get his side of the story.

    In the past hour though, NCGOP Executive Director Dallas Woodhouse says he’s confident Harris did not know about this and NCGOP stands behind him 100%
    @wsoctv

    The NCSBE is expected to announce tomorrow the date of the #NC09 evidentiary hearing

    Something weird is happening in Robeson County as well.
    [We] tracked down Jennifer Boyd. She signed as a witness on 55 ballots. On 52 of those ballots, she signed saying she assisted the voter with the ballot

    Lisa Britt’s name is listed as the second witness on dozens of ballots signed by Jennifer Boyd. But some of those voters told that Britt was never present, just Jennifer #NC09 #ncpol
    @wsoctv

    Two voters tell [us]
    the State Bureau of Investigations contacted them yesterday. The SBI would not confirm #NC09 #ncpol
    @wsoctv

  132. 132.

    BC in Illinois

    December 6, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    . . . the stupidity of elk hunting. Where’s the challenge in shooting a giant animal that doesn’t move much?

    My father in law, who spent some years in northern Michigan (just across the water from the UP) compared moose hunting to going to a dairy farm and shooting a cow.

  133. 133.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:
    With a bit of luck, his life was ruined forever. Always thinking that just behind some narrow door in all of his favorite bars, men in red woolen shirts are getting incredible kicks from things he’ll never know.”

  134. 134.

    guachi

    December 6, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    @NotMax: My favorite fantasy author, that George R. R. Tolkein and his Saga of Ice and the Fires of Mount Doom.

  135. 135.

    Gravenstone

    December 6, 2018 at 8:57 pm

    @Aleta: Honestly, NC should re-do the damned Repub primary, then the general for that district. Unfortunately, that would likely just ensure the current (R) incumbent retains his seat now that the bad actions of Harris are coming into proper focus.

  136. 136.

    Platonailedit

    December 6, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    House Democrats are threatening not to seat Mark Harris over the fraud allegations in NC-09.

    Pelosi said the House "retains the right to decide who is seated" and could take the "extraordinary step" of calling for a new election if the winner isn't clear.

    https://t.co/7CAQx7k2Ib— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 7, 2018

    Good, take the fight to the cheating thugs.

  137. 137.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    Great. Thanks for reminding me of “Spiderman and his amazing Friends” that featured one X-Men cameo with Juggernaut. Of course, Wolverine had to be thrown to the side after ineffectually slicing at Juggy to have his claws get stuck in a brick wall. It was then I truly learned the meaning of “For Fuck’s sake!”

  138. 138.

    Gravenstone

    December 6, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    @mapaghimagsik: NBC Saturday cartoons were not kind to Marvel properties. A YouTube sojourn the other day reminded me of the debacle that was Fred and Barney Meet the Thing

    “Thing ring, do your thing!”

    /facepalm

  139. 139.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    @Gravenstone: That’s magically stupid. But I still think putting Wolverine in a kid’s show was dumb.

    “Wolverine huh? What’s his superpower?”
    “Well he heals fast, and eviscerates people with metal claws.”
    “Sounds perfect for the toddler age group! Lets add him to Spidy’s show!”

    Mind you, Starfire had the same problem. She shot fire! And yet, no one gets incinerated. I think Iceman was the third. Of course he’s reasonably kid-safe.

  140. 140.

    CliosFanBoy

    December 6, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    @Hungry Joe: Great news!!!

  141. 141.

    Platonailedit

    December 6, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    Yet another fox news bimbo with zero foreign policy chops to be the murkan face in UN. Given pox news is the face of us of a, guess this is alright.

  142. 142.

    rikyrah

    December 6, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    Bruce Bartlett (@BruceBartlett) Tweeted:
    That’s because No Labels is a Republican front designed to sucker moderates and Democrats into supporting Republican policies.

    https://t.co/ShqZiurX8i https://twitter.com/BruceBartlett/status/1070772441763495941?s=17

  143. 143.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 6, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    Oh great. “Ambassador” Heather Neuart. Ugh.

  144. 144.

    Jay

    December 6, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    @BC in Illinois:

    Here moose and elk hunting ain’t easy. Moose means waist deep in swamps for days hopeing to see a moose, in sub zero or just above zero. Then hauling it out of the swamp, cleaning it, cutting it into quarters, and hauling it 8 to 10 miles back to a FSR, where if you are lucky, you have an ATV and trailer to haul it 3 -5 miles back to the truck.

    Elk, same thing, but mountains, not swamps.

    With either, providing you arn’t “splitting a tag”, that’s enough meat for a family of 5 all winter.

    Of course, if I really, really needed a moose, I’d just shoot one in my back yard, where they all show up once Moose season opens.

    But we don’t allow any hunting on the property, not even for us, and all the wildlife knows it.

  145. 145.

    rikyrah

    December 6, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    Go Maddow…connect more dots in NC

  146. 146.

    Gravenstone

    December 6, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    @mapaghimagsik: Firestar (Angelica Jones). Starfire (Koriand’r) is DC.

  147. 147.

    sm*t cl*de

    December 6, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    acting EPA administrator Andrew Wheeler signed a proposal to dismantle a 2015 rule that any new coal power plants include cutting-edge techniques to capture the carbon dioxide from their smokestacks.

    It’s the Republican / Christianist equivalent of the Xhosa cattle-killing movement. “Destroy the world and the Millennium will come”.

  148. 148.

    AThornton

    December 6, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    Imagine what would have happened if China had Steve Jobs arrested in Japan on unspecified charges.

    That’s what the US had Canada do to Meng Wanzhou.

    This is a Big Deal.

    The word “hostage” is already being used.

  149. 149.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    @Gravenstone: That’s right. So many brain cells lost.

  150. 150.

    mapaghimagsik

    December 6, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @AThornton: If Steve Jobs had been arrested, then we’d only have Branson’s mug to add to our social media posts to make them seem insightful.

  151. 151.

    Miss Bianca

    December 6, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: evidently your “people” don’t hunt to eat. There’s a lot of fine, fine meat on an elk.

  152. 152.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    @Miss Bianca

    Only a short drive up the road to buy elk meat, as the big ranch here raises them along with cattle.

  153. 153.

    Jay

    December 6, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @NotMax:

    They shouldn’t.

    Are you sure it’s Elk and not Fallow Deer.

    The chief product of elk farming is the antler velvet, might as well farm bears for their gall bladders or tigers for their penii.

  154. 154.

    Steve in the ATL

    December 6, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    @Miss Bianca: they do eat what they kill ’round these parts. But there are no elk here, so these are people who fly out to empty square states to shoot elk.

  155. 155.

    Jay

    December 6, 2018 at 11:03 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    In pens?

  156. 156.

    NotMax

    December 6, 2018 at 11:14 pm

    @Jay

    Yes, I’m sure, having bought meat there as well as having had elkburgers at the ranch store. They raise cattle, elk, deer, sheep and goats.

  157. 157.

    SectionH

    December 7, 2018 at 12:21 am

    @Hungry Joe: That’s so good to hear. I hope Alice’s healing continues to go as well as possible, or better.

  158. 158.

    M. Bouffant

    December 7, 2018 at 12:57 am

    @KithKanan: Really I meant stations I can get. I like “Southland” ’cause nobody but tee vee news & the L.A. Times use it.

  159. 159.

    The Lodger

    December 7, 2018 at 1:30 am

    @mapaghimagsik: one of the post-Grant Morrison runs of Doom Patrol had some humorous Metal Men stories by Keith Giffen in the back of the book.

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