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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Dolt 45 / Late Night Overamped Reboot Open Thread: Lies Within Lies Within Lies

Late Night Overamped Reboot Open Thread: Lies Within Lies Within Lies

by Anne Laurie|  December 15, 20181:54 am| 32 Comments

This post is in: Dolt 45, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Republicans in Disarray!, Russiagate, Let A Thousand Watergates Bloom

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The answer is clearly a matryoshka of trumps.

— Monjula Ray (@queerBengali) December 11, 2018

#Kompromatryoshka ???? pic.twitter.com/WsvulQrV73

— Uncle Rico ??Crapperware (@_chrismattingly) December 11, 2018

“Trump confides to friends he’s concerned about impeachment”. Donny Dollhand has no friends, just accomplices. And he’s reached the talking-to-the-WH-portraits stage:

Despite President Donald Trump’s public declaration that he isn’t concerned about impeachment, he has told people close to him in recent days that he is alarmed by the prospect, according to multiple sources.

Trump’s fear about the possibility has escalated as the consequences of federal investigations involving his associates and Democratic control of the House sink in, the sources said, and his allies believe maintaining the support of establishment Republicans he bucked to win election is now critical to saving his presidency…

The president has been on a days-long tirade, sources tell NBC News, lashing out at his own staff and lawmakers on Capitol Hill, frustrated by the threat of a Democratic House with subpoena power, an array of looming congressional investigations, multiple intensifying federal probes, a botched effort to find a new chief of staff and a potential partial government shutdown over a lack of funding for his top campaign promise — a border wall.

Trump has ranted about why no one around him is doing anything to stop any of it and vented about the lack of support he believes he has in Congress and within his own White House, the sources tell NBC News…

Nixon had strong support from every member of the GOP caucus… until he didn’t.

The progression of defenses:

1) It didn't happen.
2) Okay it did, but I wasn't involved.
3) Okay I was involved, but It wasn't a crime.
4) Okay maybe it was a crime, but not one of those really BAD crimes.
5) What is crime, even, except a social construct?

— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) December 12, 2018

Trump’s campaign. Trump’s transition. Trump’s inauguration. Trump’s presidency. Plus Trump & family. All are now under state and federal criminal and civil investigations. This is much more damning than Watergate, and it is just getting started.

— John Dean (@JohnWDean) December 14, 2018

2. Because this probe has lasted 2 years, been slow and methodically, with lots of great journalism filling in the gaps, we probably know the broad outline of the Trump-Russia conspiracy. Team Trump will wave the lack of a closing "bombshell" as a red flag that Mueller failed

— Will Bunch (@Will_Bunch) December 14, 2018

4. Here's the reality we need to come to terms with: Congress and the American people had — by Trump's first few months in office — more evidence of criminality against the president than what was used to oust Nixon over Watergate in 1974

— Will Bunch (@Will_Bunch) December 14, 2018


9. The question going forward is whether what we already know — that a U.S. presidential election was won through fraud, theft, lying, illegal payoffs and other criminal acts — will have real consequences for the man who stole that election, Donald Trump.

— Will Bunch (@Will_Bunch) December 14, 2018

“I want to explain how I did not do the crimes” said the client, explaining how he did all the crimes.https://t.co/TDjPftDTm2

— ThankYouForNotSmockingHat (@Popehat) December 13, 2018

I like a buncha other Trump reporters got yet another download of Giuliani last night. Here’s my favorite part pic.twitter.com/fKBXEcLkSj

— Asawin Suebsaeng (@swin24) December 13, 2018

Nobody got killed aside from a few Russian journalists and stooges, that is.

Robbed? Just the American people. Suckers.

— Iseult Sidhe (@IseultSidhe1) December 13, 2018

And straight from Mr. Broken Windows Policing himself, no less.

— Pontius Pilates (@Boogar_Sugar) December 13, 2018

Lol from ppl who brought you "crime is good, actually" now we have "at least it wasn't murder" amazing.

— Jess Flores (@MildredPierce_) December 13, 2018

I think we got robbed of our constitutional republic.

Can't get much bigger than that.

— Bill Blake (@BillBlake2018) December 13, 2018

"What is going to put him in jail eventually… destroy anything he's ever built, and his children, is a 30 year dishonest criminal enterprise. One thing will take him out of the presidency, the other will ruin him forever…"- @DonnyDeutsch w/ @NicolleDWallace pic.twitter.com/L7Hyh0nnG8

— Deadline White House (@DeadlineWH) December 12, 2018

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  1. 1.

    cain

    December 15, 2018 at 2:01 am

    We are living in crazy crazy times. This slow train wreck has got to be over soon. Also fuck Trump’s followers and their Republicans politicians who are weasels. Goodnight.

  2. 2.

    Michael Bersin

    December 15, 2018 at 2:01 am

    With the camera on a tripod and tethered to the laptop – I finally found 46P/Wirtanen (comet):

    Finding 46P/Wirtanen

  3. 3.

    rikyrah

    December 15, 2018 at 2:03 am

    Good set of tweets.
    Love #9 from Will Bunch
    Nothing but truth

  4. 4.

    rikyrah

    December 15, 2018 at 2:05 am

    Lucretia is now in the middle of the Inauguration Slush Fund??

  5. 5.

    Geoboy

    December 15, 2018 at 2:06 am

    Does the doctrine of “fruit of the poisoned tree” allow removing all the judges he’s nominated?

  6. 6.

    aj

    December 15, 2018 at 2:17 am

    I feel less lonely when I read BJ.

    Love y’all (well, mostly).

    Hope everyone is good.

    I’m traveling a ton for work, like Sunday through Friday. But mostly well.

  7. 7.

    lgerard

    December 15, 2018 at 2:18 am

    I’m available to DJ ANY Impeachment celebration! #ICantWait— Darren Battle (@chefdjdarren) December 12, 2018

    This is the type of entrepreneurial spirit that Makes America Great

  8. 8.

    Steve in the ATL

    December 15, 2018 at 2:19 am

    Trump didn’t write that tweet. Among other things, he always misspells “counsel” as “council”.

  9. 9.

    Emerald

    December 15, 2018 at 2:36 am

    Number 9, yeah. He stole the election by defrauding the American people, at the very least. (I’ll never be convinced that the Russians and/or the Republicans didn’t change the votes in those three strategically placed counties, but we’ll never know because no one ever will do the forensics to find out.)

    And because that fraud succeeded, he’s can’t be indicted? Just because of a policy, not because of a law or the Constitution?

    Nah. Won’t stand.

    Nevertheless, I strongly doubt he’ll actually ever go to jail. Aristocracy has its privileges, after all. And we’ll be forced to keep Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and all those Federalist Society judges, for life.

    Still, I have enjoyed this week, and expect to enjoy the weeks ahead.

  10. 10.

    Mai Naem mobile

    December 15, 2018 at 3:41 am

    @Geoboy: they won’t do that but if the Dems ever get the Senate back with the WH they should be ruthless and expand the USSC by 2 judges and add another circuit court in the West/Mountain West. It’s been a project of right wingers to dilute the power of the 9th circuit.. Pull a judicial version of gerrymandering and pull the bluer states from the 10th circuit court and the reorganize so that majority of states in the new circuit court are blue and the 9th remains liberal. Start the new court with a nice new slate of extremely liberal , very young and very qualified judges. No blue slip rule. Nothing. Don’t talk to me about politicizing the courts when the GOP has already done it.

  11. 11.

    jl

    December 15, 2018 at 3:50 am

    They seem to be going with ‘Damn shame what the dirty feds did to poor Al Capone’ defense.
    Which seems to be harder to pull off than one might have expected.
    Giuliani messed it up. Then Hatch messed it up, since he tried the ill advised short cut of didn’t care and anything can be made up into a crime.

    A quarter of the country is going to support Trump even if he goes down to WH lawn every day and shoots puppies and kittens in the head for fun. That is what The LORD wants, if Trump does it. Ultimately the corrupt mess the country has become, as exemplified by Trump’s success, can only be solved by big electoral wins by and for the good people.

    But, speaking of corrupt messes, simply adequate coverage of Trump’s sketchy history, long history of lies and scams, would have very likely doomed his candidacy. But, it was hard to beat the ROI of getting viewers to watch an empty podium, or lectern, or whatever they used to broadcast. Some CBS (I think?) executive said their coverage was horrible for the country but great for them. US news media has to be reformed somehow. My first vague idea has been be to break up the corporate conglomerates. But I realize my first vague idea is half baked. CBS is an independent network, and the way modern media economics is working, ye olde tymey independent broadcast (and cable) corporations would go broke. So, I’m not sure what should be done.

  12. 12.

    jl

    December 15, 2018 at 3:59 am

    @Mai Naem mobile: I agree it’s a dangerous mistake to try to go back to the old rules and hope that the GOP won’t just pick up where it left off as soon as they can get a bare majority in Congress and start sabotaging democracy again. Especially if no consequences for all those in national GOP who have reduced the old rules to rigged fraud that effectively gives them the right to rule by a reactionary and malicious minority of white anti-scientific authoritarian bigots.

  13. 13.

    Tony Jay

    December 15, 2018 at 4:44 am

    Wakes up.

    Sees that Sphincter McSphincterface is sad and lonely and frightened.

    Smiles and gets coffee

    And surely everyone knows it’s an assange of Trumps.

  14. 14.

    hervevillechaislounge

    December 15, 2018 at 5:17 am

    I have a question about Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, the Melanoma friend who got 25 mil from the inauguration slush fund for a party planning “business” that didn’t even have an office.

    Shortly after the news of the payoff surfaced their friendship tanked. Do you think they came to a parting of the ways because Winston Wolkoff was supposed to kick most of that money back to Melanoma and reneged? Or did Melanoma demand a bigger cut of the action than originally promised, a classic Trump dirtbag maneuver?

    FWIW, if one of my friends gave me a check for 25 mil we’d be BFFs for life—I’d braid her hair, smother her in moral support and listen to her boyfriend problems until my ears literally fell off my head.

    Shitty people have shitty transactional friendships, obviously, but I can’t figure out what happened here—and the media isn’t going to investigate when they can get easy clicks churning out outrage bait about Baby, it’s Cold Outside.

  15. 15.

    burnspbesq

    December 15, 2018 at 6:05 am

    The biggest problem now: where is that group of influential Republican Senators that will take the ride down Pennsyvania Ave. and explain to Trump that it’s time for him to go? Who is our Hugh Scott, our Barry Goldwater?

  16. 16.

    satby

    December 15, 2018 at 6:15 am

    @burnspbesq: not a single one of the GOP would ever put country before party. So don’t hold your breath.

  17. 17.

    geg6

    December 15, 2018 at 6:47 am

    @satby:

    Jeff Flake will have a sad as he rides off to retirement. That’s about it.

    And RIP Bill Fralic, legendary Pitt lineman. He was a joy to watch and a great guy. Knew him a little in college and he apparently never changed from the cute, fun, down-to-earth guy I knew then. Just two weeks ago, he paid for his high school’s football team’s trip to the state championship, which they won. So young, only 56. Fuck cancer.

  18. 18.

    Vhh

    December 15, 2018 at 7:10 am

    @burnspbesq: They won’t and he won’t. He’ll be indicted.

  19. 19.

    zhena gogolia

    December 15, 2018 at 7:41 am

    @jl:

    Some CBS (I think?) executive said their coverage was horrible for the country but great for them.

    Uh, that was rapist Les Moonves, head of CBS.

  20. 20.

    Barbara

    December 15, 2018 at 7:50 am

    @zhena gogolia: What the #metoo movement has brought to me is how ordinary Trump’s misogyny must have seemed to executives like Moonves, reporters like Glenn Thrush, tv hosts like Matt Lauer. Belittling women is part of their DNA, not an outrage. Clinton never stood a chance at remotely fair coverage.

  21. 21.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 15, 2018 at 7:53 am

    @Michael Bersin: Nice shot.

  22. 22.

    geg6

    December 15, 2018 at 7:54 am

    @Barbara:

    Yep.

  23. 23.

    dnfree

    December 15, 2018 at 7:55 am

    @Emerald: the ruling attempting to kill the ACA is from a Federalist Society judge appointed by GW. Check out what else he’s done on Wikipedia.

  24. 24.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2018 at 8:09 am

    “What is going to put him in jail eventually… destroy anything he’s ever built,”

    Please enlighten us as to WHAT that fuckhead has EVER built, outside of the “30 year criminal enterprise”?

    Asking for a friend what’s left of rational America.

  25. 25.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2018 at 8:14 am

    @Tony Jay:

    Sphincter McSphincterface

    Although, at some level, it is appalling (by its construction) to put that in the same class as the lovely Boaty McBoatface (who never harmed a soul, and is not a stupid motherfucker), that’s a pretty appropriate nickname.

    Seeing that name in a MAGAt Habs tweet would not make my life complete, but it would give me a lot more pleasure than one human should be allowed to have

  26. 26.

    zhena gogolia

    December 15, 2018 at 8:15 am

    @Barbara:

    I know. It’s deeply depressing. Read about 60 Minutes if you want your blood thoroughly chilled.

  27. 27.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2018 at 8:17 am

    @burnspbesq:

    The biggest problem now: where is that group of influential Republican Senators that will take the ride down Pennsyvania Ave. and explain to Trump that it’s time for him to go? Who is our Hugh Scott, our Barry Goldwater?

    They’re dead, Jim.
    [Either that, or they’re Klingons.]

  28. 28.

    randy khan

    December 15, 2018 at 8:26 am

    @burnspbesq:

    The biggest problem now: where is that group of influential Republican Senators that will take the ride down Pennsyvania Ave. and explain to Trump that it’s time for him to go? Who is our Hugh Scott, our Barry Goldwater?

    Remember, they didn’t take that ride until it was clear that Nixon was going to take the rest of the party down with him. It wasn’t some kind of selfless love of country that made it happen – it was self-interest. In other words, there will be no shortage of Republican Senators who want to protect themselves who will be willing to assume the mantle of “doing this for the country” if the time comes. (And some of them – oh, Ted Cruz or Mitt Romney, if they were to let them join the delegation – probably would enjoy doing it.)

  29. 29.

    Ruff the Dog

    December 15, 2018 at 9:04 am

    @randy khan: Perhaps after January 20, when Pence moves into 22nd Amendment territory.

  30. 30.

    Uncle Cosmo

    December 15, 2018 at 10:03 am

    @Ruff the Dog: IOW (I take it) if Combover Caligula makes it past 20.i.19 he will have “served” over half his elected term – at which point, were he to vacate the pResidency by causes natural or un-, Dense would be eligible to serve two full terms as POTUS in addition to the remains of Twitler’s term.

    (It would then be the task of all decent USAns to ensure that the former Stupidest Member Of The House Of Representatives [SMOTHOR] occupies the Ovaltine Orifice not a day, not an hour, not a minute more than absolutely necessary.)

  31. 31.

    Rand Careaga

    December 15, 2018 at 10:38 am

    @jl:

    Some CBS (I think?) executive said their coverage was horrible for the country but great for them.

    Some executive? It was Les Moonves—“It may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS”—on whom karma’s hand has lately descended.

  32. 32.

    J R in WV

    December 15, 2018 at 12:26 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    I’m hoping yesterday afternoon’s super secret appeals panel hearing was for a grand jury subpoena for Mike Pence, which will lead to an indictment of Mr. Pence for conspiracy with Russian interests, prior to any movement to indict/impeach Mr Trump. We need to get that monster out of politics first thing.

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