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You are here: Home / Politics / Domestic Politics / Falwell and the Pool Boy*

Falwell and the Pool Boy*

by Tom Levenson|  December 22, 20184:37 pm| 92 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Open Threads, Religious Nuts 2, Riveted By The Sociological Significance Of It All, Schadenfreude, The Republican Crime Syndicate

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*(Alternate Title: Michael Cohen: Zelig for Scumbags)

So, while we wait for the next irruption of lethal folly from Dear Hairpiece, how’s about a little fun from the Evangelosphere:

The prominent evangelical leader Jerry Falwell Jr. has for the first time acknowledged putting up $1.8 million for a business venture managed by a young pool attendant whom he and his wife befriended during a stay at a luxury hotel in 2012.

This story has been kicking around for a while:

BuzzFeed News first reported in May on a lawsuit that claimed the Falwells had developed a “friendly relationship” with Giancarlo Granda, then 21 years old, at the lavish Fontainebleau Miami Beach, flying him in a private jet, offering “financial assistance,” and ultimately setting him up in business. [All links in quotes are from the originals.]

“Friendly relationship” is a nice way of putting…whatever.

I got no problem with whatever connection either or both professional Christians and Mr. Granda may have.  But there is a sinner, stone and glass house problem here, and I’d say the good (Narr: he was not good) Mr. Falwell is up to his neck in “got some ‘splainin’ to do.”

What makes this all a bit more than the usual sexual fear-mongering-Christianist-hypocrite schandenfreudal moment is this. Falwell was famously the first major Talibangical leader to back Trump, giving him a venue at Liberty (sic!) University and a powerful endorsement.  This didn’t come out of the blue:  “Trump visited Liberty University Sept. 24, 2012, to give the convocation address.”

The timing was convenient:

Six months after evangelical leader Jerry Falwell Jr. and his wife befriended a Miami hotel pool attendant in 2012, the young man was introduced to Donald Trump during a visit to the large religious school Falwell runs, Liberty University, according to a photograph sent to BuzzFeed News.

Guess who connects Falwell, the pool boy, and the failed president.

No prizes for guessing Michael Freaking Cohen.

Why was Cohen there? Turns out…

Cohen was an acquaintance of Falwell’s and helped arrange Falwell’s milestone endorsement of Trump during the 2016 election campaign, BuzzFeed News reported, citing a high-ranking official at Liberty University.

But not to worry:

As BuzzFeed News had previously reported, a source close to Falwell said he was “sure” Falwell had discussed the Granda case with Cohen prior to his unexpected decision to lend his backing to Trump. There is no evidence that these discussions played any part in the endorsement.

That’s their story, and I’d say they’d best stick to it.

Open thread!

Image:  William Morris Hunt, The Bathers, 1877

 

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  1. 1.

    Corner Stone

    December 22, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    a young pool attendant whom he and his wife befriended during a stay at a luxury hotel in 2012.

    Sounds an awful lot like the beginning of how Mr. Versace met his end at the hands of the handsome Andrew Cunanan.

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    December 22, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    And since we’re talking about young handsome men, I hate rooting for the Washington NFL team – but I need the Titans to lose.

  3. 3.

    Olivia

    December 22, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    Did it have to be the “pool boy”? That is too much like a bad movie. Why not the plumber or the lawn sprinkler repair guy?

  4. 4.

    Lyrebird

    December 22, 2018 at 4:50 pm

    @Corner Stone: I’m rooting for all the TV networks to start referring to that team as the Washington Redpants! Maybe the owner won’t budge, but with enough advertiser pressure, maybe everyone else can make the change irreversible. Maybe they’d prefer “Warriors” or something, whatever, they need to stop normalizing a slur.

  5. 5.

    sukabi

    December 22, 2018 at 4:52 pm

    Blackmail is part and parcel of how drumpf does business.

  6. 6.

    cynthia ackerman

    December 22, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    Somehow, the syntax here of “stick” as in sticky is … well, icky

  7. 7.

    Yutsano

    December 22, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    But there is a sinner, stone and glass house problem here

    Negative ten points for misuse of mixed metaphor, Professor Levenson.

    I wonder if Mr. Granda is shopping his story to the highest bidder. This herring is stinkier than decade old gefilte fish.

  8. 8.

    Corner Stone

    December 22, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    @Olivia: “Hello there. I’m here to inspect your…pipes.”
    BOW CHICKA BOW WOWOWWOWWWW

  9. 9.

    maya

    December 22, 2018 at 4:59 pm

    As I roamed around on the streets of Miami,
    I said to mine-self, ‘This is one fancy town’,
    So I called up mine partner and said, ‘Hello Sammy,
    Come pack up your satchel and mosey on down’

    Kinda just hung out there over the plate

  10. 10.

    Yarrow

    December 22, 2018 at 5:00 pm

    Ah, the evangelical Christians begin to show up in the story. We’re fairly far along now, then. Can’t wait to see the evangelical organizations’ Russian money laundering finally make the news.

  11. 11.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    December 22, 2018 at 5:02 pm

    $1.8 million sure sounds like one of the more pricey pay-away-the-gay schemes in the storied Xstian liturgical record.

    Will be great fun if somehow the Russians, who really know how to cultivate their garden of marks (hey, hey, NRA, who you gonna get killt today?), tipped off Trumpworld about the (alleged) Talibangelical tryst twist inna kompromat konspiracy.

    Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to! Cokie’s Law demands it!

  12. 12.

    John Revolta

    December 22, 2018 at 5:02 pm

    Zelig for Scumbags LOL

  13. 13.

    hitchhiker

    December 22, 2018 at 5:02 pm

    I’ll be quite surprised if this story fades away. It’s got all the necessary ingredients for a good old-fashioned American scandal.

    Sex
    Money
    Hypocrisy
    Power
    Secrecy
    Private jet
    Cover story
    Evangelicals

  14. 14.

    Eric U.

    December 22, 2018 at 5:04 pm

    @Lyrebird: I swear the sports guys go out of their way to say the team’s name instead of “Washington.” I was halfway tempted to start calling out people on twitter when they use the team’s name the last time I saw them play

  15. 15.

    Yutsano

    December 22, 2018 at 5:06 pm

    @hitchhiker: Don’t forget the big scarlet A here. Odds are that’s lurking somewhere around this mishegas. Bonus points if we’re talking gay sexytimes here.

    @poleaxedbyboatwork: Was that Cokie? I thought it was Nooners. We’re gonna need trading cards at the end of all this.

  16. 16.

    Frankensteinbeck

    December 22, 2018 at 5:06 pm

    @sukabi:

    Blackmail

    I honestly don’t think blackmail is likely here! It’s not necessary. Cohen is a Fixer. Handling the financial aspects of rich men’s philandering is his job. It is completely natural for him to form a bridge between clients when they could use connections to each other. Also, people wildly underestimate how good a fit Trump is for evangelical desires. You may notice a moral equivalency between him and Falwell in this specific story.

  17. 17.

    germy

    December 22, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    “befriended”

  18. 18.

    Emma

    December 22, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    Dear Author: We received your submission and we are sorry to tell you we will not be publishing it. However, since you show some promise, we would like to point out that any good modern murder mystery tries to avoid the cliches of earlier decades. A religious leader and a pool boy reeks of 1970s cheap titillation paperbacks. We would consider a more realistic premise and a less lurid language. Yours truly, the Editors.

  19. 19.

    Patricia Kayden

    December 22, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    So what was the blackmail Trump used to get Franklin Graham’s unabashed support? It would be reckless not to wildly speculate.

  20. 20.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    December 22, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    @Olivia: Even their world-historical hypocrisy is unimaginative.

    What’s next, a tearful, sloppy, maundering, pathetic on-air “I-Have-Sinnnnned!” confession?

  21. 21.

    trollhattan

    December 22, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    “Skeevy is as skeevy does.” said somebody’s mama.

    The grifting Franklins are getting progressively worse as generations turn, but the Fallwells live in a moral basement so vast and deep they can only be massive grifters and tools. It’s their way. But my, what a sparkling pool.

  22. 22.

    Yutsano

    December 22, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Judges to get Christian religious exemptions for their special snowflakes.Yes they’re that cheap.

  23. 23.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 22, 2018 at 5:11 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Negative ten points for misuse of mixed metaphor, Professor Levenson.

    I saw it more as a cleverly-constructed portmanteau metaphor, and assigned him ten bonus points for creativity.

  24. 24.

    trollhattan

    December 22, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    @poleaxedbyboatwork:
    I do miss Frank Zappa and so wish he were around to give these folks the treatment he gave Jimmy Swaggart.

  25. 25.

    sukabi

    December 22, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: Cohen’s 3 clients did not include Falwell.

  26. 26.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    December 22, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    @Yutsano: I is mistaken n you is correct. Nooners it was!

    In my meager defense, concern trolls is so taxonomically similar, their baseline camouflage makes ’em hard to differentiate in the political wilds.

  27. 27.

    Ken

    December 22, 2018 at 5:14 pm

    @poleaxedbyboatwork: Isn’t it always? And can you blame them – it has an excellent track record.

  28. 28.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 22, 2018 at 5:15 pm

    MAGA Haberman is still spinning for T

    At the midpoint of his term, the president has grown more sure of his own judgment (WTF?) and more isolated from anyone else’s than at any point since he took office

    Reporting delusions of grandeur, as fact.

  29. 29.

    Yarrow

    December 22, 2018 at 5:16 pm

    @Yutsano: It’s more than that. Take a look at their organizations. Like the NRA, some of them are Russian money laundromats. Of course other more salacious reasons for blackmail aren’t ruled out.

  30. 30.

    Frankensteinbeck

    December 22, 2018 at 5:18 pm

    @sukabi:

    Cohen’s 3 clients did not include Falwell.

    Then why is Cohen even mentioned here? How is he supposed to help anybody blackmail anybody without inside information? He just happened to be present? So? Or he said ‘I think Falwell would be a good fit for you’?

  31. 31.

    Ken

    December 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm

    @sukabi: Help my failing elderly memory. Wasn’t there a report that Cohen had arranged a payoff to a pron star other that Stormy Daniels for one of his clients? I think I recall the “a” word (as in “roe v. wAde”) being involved in that one.

  32. 32.

    Schlemazel

    December 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm

    @John Revolta:
    One of my favorite movies, so weird so odd. I’m not sure I can enjoy it so much now

  33. 33.

    Schlemazel

    December 22, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    @germy:
    “The light of the lord shown upon him”
    He looked like Fobio on the cover of one of thoses novels

  34. 34.

    lgerard

    December 22, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    Speaking of movies, the Liberty University produced film “The Trump Prophecy” landed like the Hindenburg. Even the evangelicals hated it.

  35. 35.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    December 22, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    @germy: Is that what the kids’re calling it these days?

    Remember, “befriended” is Sampson erecting the rock of St. Peter here! Attention must be paid!

  36. 36.

    sukabi

    December 22, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    @Ken: Playboy Bunny paid off 1.8is million for Broidy.

    Trump, Broidy and Hannity were Cohen’s 3 ‘official clients as exposed this spring when a judge ruled he had to name the 3rd, which was Hannity.

    Adding, yes a termination was involved, probably why the payment was 10x the regular amount.

  37. 37.

    West of the Rockies

    December 22, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    Maybe it was a good old fashioned threesome with the Falwells. I thought Jerry died years ago. Is it the son in this story?

  38. 38.

    p.a.

    December 22, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    @Yutsano:

    I wonder if Mr. Granda is shopping his story to the highest bidder. This herring is stinkier than decade old gefilte fish.

    Mayhap it’s already in the National Enquirer secure location?

  39. 39.

    Corner Stone

    December 22, 2018 at 5:26 pm

    @sukabi:

    Cohen’s 3 clients did not include Falwell.

    Among many things, this is the problem with Cohen. Not only does he lie non-stop, but the reason he’s doing 3 years even with a plea deal is because he didn’t cooperate to the level SDNY expected. I think we have to take any utterance he poops out, even in court, to be suspect at best.

  40. 40.

    H.E.Wolf

    December 22, 2018 at 5:28 pm

    @Ken:

    Help my failing elderly memory. Wasn’t there a report that Cohen had arranged a payoff to a pron star other that Stormy Daniels for one of his clients? I think I recall the “a” word (as in “roe v. wAde”) being involved in that one.

    Shera Bechard, the mistress of former RNC Financial Chairman Elliott Broidy (who is or was one of Michael Cohen’s 3 “clients”) claimed that Broidy coerced her into having an abortion. It’s all out there on Google, if anyone wants the sordid details.

    One of the sordid details is a rumor that Broidy was a front for the actual Impregnator 1.

    [Edited to fix typo, and to thank sukabi for answering before this comment posted.]

  41. 41.

    hells littlest angel

    December 22, 2018 at 5:29 pm

    A detail that shouldn’t be left out of this story is that the $1.8M was used to start up a gay-friendly (not that there’s anything etc.) hostel with an on-premises liquor store.

  42. 42.

    JPL

    December 22, 2018 at 5:29 pm

    @Olivia: Why stop at one?

  43. 43.

    Ohio Mom

    December 22, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    @maya: Allen Sherman!

    Though he had a sad end, his work continues to bring joy. The National Comedy Center in Jamestown, NY includes him in their pantheon, and displays a Camp Granada sweatshirt. If they only had reproductions of it in their gift shop, I’d be wearing it right now (our house is drafty).

  44. 44.

    Patricia Kayden

    December 22, 2018 at 5:31 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: She can’t help herself. How else is she supposed to maintain her sweet, sweet access to Trump? Losing her dignity is nothing compared to that sweet access.

  45. 45.

    dmsilev

    December 22, 2018 at 5:34 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Negative ten points for misuse of mixed metaphor, Professor Levenson.

    Does he gain or lose points for leaving off the Oxford comma?

  46. 46.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 22, 2018 at 5:34 pm

    Ain’t it always you know who’s boots
    Scooting up a goose stepping rhythm to a simpler time
    Quickest on the stick when the call of nature hits
    Shuffle shoeing to a pissy Florsheim
    Every slope is slippery with a little something lacy
    Tween your business and your poly wool blend
    The greatest separators of fools from their money
    Party harder than they like to admit

  47. 47.

    Baud

    December 22, 2018 at 5:34 pm

    Who among us hasn’t befriended a pool boy? Or tennis coach? Or pizza delivery guy? I think it’s perfectly normal.

  48. 48.

    Corner Stone

    December 22, 2018 at 5:35 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I can’t remember who because I was busy cleaning up the chocolate milk I had just spit out. But on one of the morning segments one of the panelists made a 45 second or so defense of MAGA Habs. Saying she was an excellent journalist, had covered Trump for years and had a personal relationship. I was all, “That’s a defense?!”

  49. 49.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    December 22, 2018 at 5:37 pm

    @trollhattan: Tx., Frank assailing the puling hypocrite Swaggart, choice, will save that for later. Gotta go move a friend’s car outta long-term parking at airport but was waylaid by the delectable lamentations of richly deserving assholes.

    These fucking people. Never do they disappoint in living down to one’s worst expectations. Thus, proof of concept allus appreciated.

  50. 50.

    Ken

    December 22, 2018 at 5:37 pm

    @Baud: Excellent preparation for the Baud2020! campaign. Get ahead of the scandals before they hit the press.

  51. 51.

    dmsilev

    December 22, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    @Corner Stone: Insanity is a recognized criminal defense, so yes.

  52. 52.

    Corner Stone

    December 22, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    Rev Al has RWNJ attack dog Jen Kerns on his show today. Never know why. The kicker is she is now employed by The Hill.

  53. 53.

    zhena gogolia

    December 22, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Haha, I was just thinking of posting that.

  54. 54.

    Elizabelle

    December 22, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Braid faster, Maggie.

  55. 55.

    M. Bouffant

    December 22, 2018 at 5:48 pm

    In other Liberty U. news, they hired a guy who was busted using a university-issued phone to call escort services while he was head footsball coach at Ole Miss to be Liberty’s coach.

  56. 56.

    Elizabelle

    December 22, 2018 at 5:49 pm

    @hells littlest angel: Do you have a link for that? That is a detail.

  57. 57.

    Mathguy

    December 22, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    There’s a banner ad above this page on my computer for Blaze TV, with “No liberal ad!!”. Is Google screwing with me?

  58. 58.

    debbie

    December 22, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    Ah, yes, Pool Boy.

  59. 59.

    Yutsano

    December 22, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    @dmsilev: I’ve already had that argument with him. I know it’s based on which one your teachers preferred and all that, but I can’t understand the big deal about using it or not. I think it makes my writing have more clarity, so I use it.

  60. 60.

    afanasia

    December 22, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    I’m irritated that this young man scored a higher payoff than Ms. Daniels or that very pretty Playboy model. The wage gap is everywhere….

  61. 61.

    Lady raxterinok

    December 22, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    In a fewdays-ago BJ link to a story about a gay-friendly hotel set up by Falwell family and property owned by Falwell III and wife, the author of the story, who has published in several national magazine, was a grad of Liberty U and came out as gay there. The article about him that I found claimed that he was quite homophobic and implied he might not be terribly trustworthy.

    I’m sorry, I don’t remember the author’s name. Maybe someone here remembers the article I’m thinking of.

  62. 62.

    Jerzy Russian

    December 22, 2018 at 5:57 pm

    @Lyrebird:

    I call them the Washington Foreskins” so that way nobody is offended.

  63. 63.

    sigyn

    December 22, 2018 at 6:00 pm

    @trollhattan: Wasn’t it grandpa Falwell that killed someone’s cat and Fed. It. To. Him!

    Yep. I’ll try to back that up with a link

  64. 64.

    dmsilev

    December 22, 2018 at 6:01 pm

    @Yutsano: I’m not particularly dogmatic on that question either. Like you, I generally put it in. I know some people who regard the question as a near-religious issue though.

  65. 65.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2018 at 6:01 pm

    @afanasia: No, Trump’s just really cheep.

  66. 66.

    Lady raxterinok

    December 22, 2018 at 6:04 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: IMO it was super easy to get Evangelicals to back Trump. Just promise anti-abortion and anti-homosexual judges!!

    Other Evangelical leaders to consider–Robert Jeffres of First Baptist of Dallas and Rodney Howard Browne, the South African preacher who appeared on the national Pentecostal scene with his ‘laughing ministry in 1989. (A connection between this ministry and the ‘Fall of the Berlin Wall’ in 89 was widely claimed by some!)

  67. 67.

    Van Buren

    December 22, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    @poleaxedbyboatwork: Not till he blames Hillary first.

  68. 68.

    Schlemazel

    December 22, 2018 at 6:10 pm

    Poor Melanoma, word is she has been summoned back to DC to spend Christmas Insensate Evil

  69. 69.

    Lady raxterinok

    December 22, 2018 at 6:11 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: @Schlemazel: Fabio??

    The owners of a used bookstore I often went to had a life-sized standup poster of him placed prominently in their store.

    They thought he was ‘soooooo handsome.’

  70. 70.

    Mnemosyne

    December 22, 2018 at 6:12 pm

    @sigyn:

    It was Rev. Jerry Sr.’s father. Explains a WHOLE lot about the level of abusiveness in that family. It almost made me feel sorry for Jerry Sr. to have been raised by someone that cruel.

  71. 71.

    Lady raxterinok

    December 22, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    @M. Bouffant: IIRC the athletic director also has ‘inappropriate’ sexual incidents in his ‘resume’.

  72. 72.

    Lady raxterinok

    December 22, 2018 at 6:21 pm

    @hells littlest angel: This info was in link in BJ coment several days ago that I mentioned earlier.

  73. 73.

    sigyn

    December 22, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Yeah, hence “grandpa”; I should have been clearer. The second story at my link erased any stirring feelings of pity I had.

    It’s a ‘root and branch’ type of family.

    eta: whenever I am asked what’s the most monstrous thing you ever heard of… And Jerry Sr. admitted it “bordered on cruelty”.

  74. 74.

    hells littlest angel

    December 22, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    @Elizabelle: Here’s one of many stories:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/25/jerry-falwell-miami-hostel-liberty-university-trey-falwell-215528

  75. 75.

    Shalimar

    December 22, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    @sukabi: I don’t have a link handy, but someone said a few weeks ago that Cohen had more than 3 clients. Only 3 were relevant to the government’s case against him and the attorney/client privilege claim at issue from all the seized records.

  76. 76.

    JPL

    December 22, 2018 at 6:30 pm

    If a democratic candidate for president had stayed in the Hostel, they would be forced out. Falwell has some explaining to do.

  77. 77.

    JPL

    December 22, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    @hells littlest angel: @Elizabelle: Here’s another article. https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/jerry-falwell-jr-funded-miami-pool-attendants-alton-road-real-estate-deal-10960428

  78. 78.

    chris

    December 22, 2018 at 6:38 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Well… yeah… but she’s not wrong.

  79. 79.

    Mnemosyne

    December 22, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    @sigyn:

    People raised by cruel parents usually go one of two ways: they swear to be different than their parents and make an effort to do that, or they double down and become cruel themselves in a desperate attempt to normalize what happened to them.

    It’s sad that Rev. Jerry Sr. decided to take the path of normalizing cruelty and hurting other people the way he had been hurt, but that’s the choice he made.

  80. 80.

    chris

    December 22, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    @debbie: Thank you! getting old couldn’t remember.

  81. 81.

    Barry DeCicco

    December 22, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    @Corner Stone: “Among many things, this is the problem with Cohen. Not only does he lie non-stop, but the reason he’s doing 3 years even with a plea deal is because he didn’t cooperate to the level SDNY expected. I think we have to take any utterance he poops out, even in court, to be suspect at best.”

    I have an alternate theory, that he flipped on Trump 100%, but not the Russian mob. The FBI gave him three years for that. His publicly expressed relief was genuine, because it meant that he wouldn’t be whacked.

  82. 82.

    sigyn

    December 22, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    @Mnemosyne: The older I get the more I realized how blessed I was by my good parents. The only adjustment I felt the need for was switching from spanking to no spanking.

  83. 83.

    Elizabelle

    December 22, 2018 at 6:49 pm

    @hells littlest angel:
    @JPL: Thank you both.

  84. 84.

    Mnemosyne

    December 22, 2018 at 6:52 pm

    @sigyn:

    Both my dad and my stepmom (who has raised me since I was about 10 since my own mom died when I was 7) were pretty damaged people, but fortunately they both chose to try and do better than their terrible parents did. They still screwed up a lot, but they did their best they could with the tools they had.

  85. 85.

    Kathleen

    December 22, 2018 at 7:11 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Visions of P-U-Litzers are dancing in her head.

  86. 86.

    SRW1

    December 22, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    $1.8 million? Isn’t that the tariff in conservanoble circles if someone gets someone preggers and that problem has to be, ahem, removed?

  87. 87.

    trnc

    December 22, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    @Shalimar: Cohen had 10 (or more) clients in his solo practice. Perhaps one of the seven previously thought to be of no relevance was Falwell.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-represented-3-people-past-year-2018-4

  88. 88.

    rikyrah

    December 22, 2018 at 8:06 pm

    Cohen brokered the payment.
    So, whatever the reason, it’s blackmail material.
    Bet on it.????

  89. 89.

    Jay Noble

    December 22, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    @Mathguy: I’ve been seeing the banner ad for about the last week and a sidebar one now and then since then. Hey, if they want towaste their money here . . .

  90. 90.

    CarolDuhart2

    December 22, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    @Emma: However, we at Libertine.com, are more than willing to film the whole thing. Yes, its pretty cliche, but our clients don’t mind., as long as its fresh. And by the way, we would like to make an offer to that pool boy as well. A lot of aging pool boys make a good living after its all over with us…

  91. 91.

    CarolDuhart2

    December 22, 2018 at 10:33 pm

    And believe it or not, the domain exists, and is unclaimed…..

  92. 92.

    CarolDuhart2

    December 22, 2018 at 10:55 pm

    It’s claimed, but inactive…

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