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Wednesday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  January 9, 20197:59 pm| 163 Comments

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It doesn’t matter how big or small the footstool is, we make room:

I’ve the conversations with my parents sound eerily similar to the conversation I had with my peers when I was stoned to the bejeezus. For example, dad just offered this up:

“How does a bald person with a beard know where to stop the beard.”

Back in the day, that could have dominated a stoned conversation for several hours. Or maybe it would have just felt like several hours.

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  1. 1.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 9, 2019 at 8:07 pm

    Elizabeth Warren wins the first Daily Kos 2020 Presidential Straw Poll (full results)

    Well, our first presidential primary straw poll of the 2020 cycle began with a bang! Nearly 35,000 of you voted! The results:

    Elizabeth Warren…….22%
    Beto O’Rourke………..15%
    Kamala Harris………….14%
    Joe Biden………………..14%
    Wilmer……………………..11%
    Unsure…………………….09%
    Other……………………….09%
    Cory Booker…………….03%
    Julian Castro……………01%
    Kristen Gillibrand…….01%

    (link)

    BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

    Turns out Wilmer wasn’t even popular with his own crowds, rather just a stand-in for others.

    also too, his cult always stuffs the online ballot box with repeated votes, and still, he did poorly.

  2. 2.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    January 9, 2019 at 8:13 pm

    Well, to be fair, how does a bald dude with a beard know where to end the beard?

  3. 3.

    Chris T.

    January 9, 2019 at 8:13 pm

    In my experience, beard hairs and head hairs are very different textures. Like cat whiskers vs cat fur. So it’s obvious where to stop!

  4. 4.

    germy

    January 9, 2019 at 8:15 pm

    @Chris T.: Why does my hair and beard keep growing and growing, but my cat never needs a haircut? Her fur has stayed the same length for years now.

  5. 5.

    Amir Khalid

    January 9, 2019 at 8:18 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
    Only the bald dude’s scalp has the power to decide this question: it ends where it ends, and that is that.

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 8:18 pm

    A few weeks go, Betty Cracker (I think it was) asked us to share — if we were willing — our political regrets. I didn’t comment in that thread, but for whatever reasons have decided to come clean tonight:

    Just so y’all know, full disclosure.

    In my early twenties, I was a Goldwater Girl. For several years, also, I hung out (literally, in person, ask me for details sometime) with Ayn Rand and her minions. I don’t admit to any of this with any pride, but it is part — an important, inescapable part — of my background.

    Since I broke free (1968), I have been an unrepentant liberal/progressive. But for some reason, it seems right for me to go public with this tonight. I’m braced, I think, for whatever vitriol may come my way.

  7. 7.

    Lapassionara

    January 9, 2019 at 8:22 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: How interesting. How did you break free?

  8. 8.

    Amir Khalid

    January 9, 2019 at 8:23 pm

    @germy:
    I think that with shorthair cats. their fur only grows so long and no longer. Each single hair reaches max length, then stays for a while before falling off when the follicle cycles to a rest phase. Longhairs have follicles with a much longer growth phase. Of course all this is just a layman’s speculation.

  9. 9.

    germy

    January 9, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I don’t particularly like sitting in barbers’ chairs, so I’m somewhat jealous of my cat who requires no such maintenance.

  10. 10.

    Roger Moore

    January 9, 2019 at 8:26 pm

    @germy:

    Why does my hair and beard keep growing and growing, but my cat never needs a haircut?

    Human head hair is very unusual in that it keeps growing indefinitely. Most hair- including human body hair- grows to a set length and then stops. It eventually falls out and is replaced by a new hair that grows again to the same length. This is why people who let their body hair grow don’t need full body haircuts.

  11. 11.

    Nicole

    January 9, 2019 at 8:26 pm

    I read this post aloud to my husband because I found it hilarious (who would think about something like that?) and he got very enthusiastic because he says he “often” thinks about where the beard should stop on a bald man.

    My mind is officially blown this evening.

  12. 12.

    Chris T.

    January 9, 2019 at 8:27 pm

    @Amir Khalid: That is the correct explanation. All hair follicles have this pattern, of grow-rest-release-rest. Male pattern baldness occurs when the “grow” phase gets shorter and shorter and eventually stops entirely. Cats with short fur have short grow periods and longer rest periods. Cats with multilayer coats have different kinds of follicles with different periods (and different hair-thicknesses and straightness and so on).

  13. 13.

    chopper

    January 9, 2019 at 8:29 pm

    How does a bald person with a beard know where to stop the beard.

    the proper answer to that is to pause for 10 seconds and then say “…fuuuuuuuck”

  14. 14.

    Lapassionara

    January 9, 2019 at 8:31 pm

    @Chris T.: how interesting. Thanks.

  15. 15.

    germy

    January 9, 2019 at 8:31 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Human head hair is very unusual in that it keeps growing indefinitely.

    I wonder why, evolution-wise?

    Is there an advantage to that?

  16. 16.

    Steeplejack

    January 9, 2019 at 8:33 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    You line it up with some notch or landmark on the ears.

  17. 17.

    frosty fred

    January 9, 2019 at 8:33 pm

    @germy:

    Is there an advantage to that?

    Well, since I’ve been bald it definitely hurts more to bang my head on something, and it’s more likely to cause a laceration.

  18. 18.

    Amir Khalid

    January 9, 2019 at 8:35 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    I have long suspected that some guys with really abundant body hair do need periodic full-body haircuts, but are too embarrassed to share that with others.

  19. 19.

    Steeplejack

    January 9, 2019 at 8:36 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    No vitriol, but, holy shit, what was Ayn Rand like in person?! In the literature she comes across as a harpy with a strange ability to draw people in.

  20. 20.

    germy

    January 9, 2019 at 8:36 pm

    Ted Cruz’s Once-Adequate Beard Has Evened Itself Out With the
    Inadequate Man It Rests Upon

    It’s the result of simultaneously being too manicured and not tended to enough.

    https://www.esquire.com/style/grooming/a25737812/ted-cruz-beard-back-to-bad/

    (And I see Beto has grown one, too)

  21. 21.

    JaySinWA

    January 9, 2019 at 8:37 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I suspect you are considering only involuntary baldness (imbas?) as opposed to voluntary baldness (volbas?) but even imbas may chose to make a demarcation between beard and what hair may be left. Speaking as one who is neither bald (yet) or bearded (generally) so not particularly reliable in opinion.

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    @Lapassionara:

    Serious question? I was studying music at Hunter College. Ayn Rand was saying publically that Bach was heartless and Beethoven had a negative malignant sense of life. Something clicked in me and I went all “Yeah, No,” and that was that.

  23. 23.

    Roger Moore

    January 9, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    @germy:

    I wonder why, evolution-wise?

    Is there an advantage to that?

    There is a lot of speculation about this, but it’s really hard to come up with a definitive answer. The theory I remember best- which doesn’t mean it’s the best theory- is that it’s a way of signaling fitness for sexual selection. Maintaining healthy hair is supposedly a sign that you’ve managed to stay well fed, free from parasites, have time to groom adequately, and so forth. In other words, it’s a sign that you’re prime mating material.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    January 9, 2019 at 8:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: You’re so cool.

  25. 25.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 8:45 pm

    @Baud:

    SiubhanDuinne: You’re so cool.

    Well shit, if I’d known you were going to react like that, I would have fessed up weeks ago.

  26. 26.

    Msilaneous

    January 9, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh my goodness, I would love to sit down with you and hear your stories. What an interesting life you lead. Thanks for sharing.

  27. 27.

    Amir Khalid

    January 9, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    @JaySinWA:
    I am myself bearded and noticeably thinning on top, and thus a kind of near-imba. I have no idea how much credibility it gives me, if any, on questions relating to hair. (Incidentally, I have a nephew who started losing hair at 18 and at 20 is now a total imba. Not the youngest guy I’ve seen that happen to.)

  28. 28.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 9, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    what was Ayn Rand like in person?!

    I can’t find where I read about it (someplace linked off aldaily, but … >10yr ago) but she was exactly as awful IRL as in her books. Like: she took up with a much-younger (25yr gap iirc) lover (Nathaniel Branden) and expected her husband to just take it. Got pissy in enormously public way when the lover dumped. her. eventually. Signed-up for and got social security benefits. The story of these affairs (when I read it) was hilariously sordid.

  29. 29.

    Mary G

    January 9, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Bach heartless? WTF?

    I love that you escaped from the libertarian borg. You are indeed a badass jackal. You need to write a memoir, or get in your car and travel the country visiting Juicers who need a pick-me-up.

  30. 30.

    Amir Khalid

    January 9, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    @germy:
    Nothing could make Ted Cruz’s face look less bad, not even a Werewolf-style all-over beard.

  31. 31.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 9, 2019 at 8:54 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    a negative malignant sense of life

    She would know.

  32. 32.

    Yutsano

    January 9, 2019 at 8:57 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: “Is that Ayn Rand in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?”

  33. 33.

    chris

    January 9, 2019 at 8:57 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: You… monster!

    Haha! Glad you managed to escape the barbarians.

  34. 34.

    debbie

    January 9, 2019 at 8:58 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I knew a couple of people who had socialized with her and their opinions meshed with yours. They also knew Bonnie Golightly, which I found much more interesting.

  35. 35.

    Gvg

    January 9, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    OT but I wish to note that the ads today have been actually pleasant instead of something to be not noticed. It’s been mostly chewy.com and pet products instead of one weird trick and conspiracy theory news. In my experience internet ads are actually terrible at figuring out what I might buy. They funniest mistake they make is to keep showing a product I researched and actually bought two years ago and won’t need again for years. Or putting too much weight on what I buy around Christmas when we all buy for other people temporarily. I really dislike the crack pot news and products though. This blog ought to attract pet product ads IMO.

  36. 36.

    germy

    January 9, 2019 at 9:00 pm

    WASHINGTON — Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has agreed to deliver a classified briefing to U.S. House lawmakers on Thursday on his recent decision to lift sanctions on companies linked to a Russian oligarch and Vladimir Putin ally, marking the start of an aggressive new focus on Mnuchin by newly empowered House Democrats, according to two top Democratic aides.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/house-democrats-now-asking-questions-about-treasury-secretary-steven-mnuchin-n956766

  37. 37.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 9:00 pm

    @Msilaneous:

    I’d be glad to do a conversation at any time on my (totally subjective) recollections of being on the outskirts of Ayn Rand’s orbit. Mind you, it was 50 years ago, and I bring a lot of personal baggage to the discussion, but I’m game!

  38. 38.

    raven

    January 9, 2019 at 9:00 pm

    Easy, have a shaved head and goat.

  39. 39.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 9, 2019 at 9:01 pm

    @Baud: Of course she is, she has met me IRL.

  40. 40.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 9:02 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    She definitely had an uncanny ability to draw people in. Her eyes were just fucking amazing. Really hard/almost impossible to resist.

  41. 41.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 9, 2019 at 9:02 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: For several years, also, I hung out (literally, in person, ask me for details sometime) with Ayn Rand and her minions.

    was Alan Greenspan bearing a cup?
    ETA… or fifty years ago, had he grown too old for her?

  42. 42.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    January 9, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Ayn Rand was saying publically that Bach was heartless and Beethoven had a negative malignant sense of life. Something clicked in me and I went all “Yeah, No,” and that was that.

    Literally, a musical bridge too far.

  43. 43.

    Baud

    January 9, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I wouldn’t be skittish about that. I’d be more ashamed of telling people who you hang out with now.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    January 9, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Are you Ayn Rand?

  45. 45.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 9, 2019 at 9:06 pm

    @Baud: Ayn who?

  46. 46.

    Karen

    January 9, 2019 at 9:07 pm

    @Amir Khalid: What is an imba?

  47. 47.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 9:09 pm

    @Mary G:

    You need to write a memoir, or get in your car and travel the country visiting Juicers who need a pick-me-up.

    It’s really interesting you would say this now, because I am quite literally plotting out tentative cross-country driving trips to take place over the next two years, and one of the key determinants of itinerary will be what jackals where are available when?

  48. 48.

    Lapassionara

    January 9, 2019 at 9:13 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: amazing. Great story. If you take the cross country trip, please come to St. Louis.

  49. 49.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 9:14 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Of course she is, she has met me IRL

    The two of us combined are probably the baddest badasses amongst the entirety of BJ jackals.

  50. 50.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 9, 2019 at 9:15 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:I will take the compliment, but I was just pulling Baud’s leg. I want to be you, when I grow up!

  51. 51.

    oatler.

    January 9, 2019 at 9:16 pm

    @Amir Khalid: “I heard they shaved a gorilla.”

  52. 52.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 9:17 pm

    @Lapassionara:

    You, and Quin, and Ozark? Not to mention all the folk in southern Illinois? Wouldn’t miss it!

  53. 53.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 9:18 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    PFFFTH! You can do much better! Be YOU when you grow up.

  54. 54.

    Lapassionara

    January 9, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: great. Marco Polo too. Ozark knows the best bbq joint. Sounds like a winner to me.

  55. 55.

    lamh36

    January 9, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    So…what should me and the sis do in LA guys? I mean I’ve been before, she’s never been.

    I rented a car, mostly because we arrive at the airport on the last flight and are leaving out on the first flight…so I didn’t want to worry bout Uber. Also too, the money spent on Uber to and from airport to hotel, to shrine and around the city I coiuld just rent a car, and pay for parking or find parking around where we want to go

    With wet/overcast weather is expected in LA, what should we do?

  56. 56.

    Amir Khalid

    January 9, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    @Karen:
    JaySinWA coined the term for “involuntary bald guy” upthread, #21.

  57. 57.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 9, 2019 at 9:21 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Then that would be an inba, what is imba?

  58. 58.

    WereBear

    January 9, 2019 at 9:21 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: dagnab! That’s a fascinating past.

    But you did wake up ?

  59. 59.

    WereBear

    January 9, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    @Amir Khalid: You are correct, Amir. This also means a tabby cat’s stripes, move.

  60. 60.

    Uncle Cosmo

    January 9, 2019 at 9:24 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I can think of something that would make Rafael Crooooze’s face look less bad: Its appearance on a WANTED poster. I mean, sheeyit, I’d go down to the local post office every day just to enjoy the sight of that ugly mug hanging there.

  61. 61.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 9, 2019 at 9:24 pm

    @Msilaneous:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh my goodness, I would love to sit down with you and hear your stories.

    I have done this very thing, and I highly recommend it! There was also wine.

  62. 62.

    Amir Khalid

    January 9, 2019 at 9:25 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:
    You’ll have to ask him. It’s not my coinage.

  63. 63.

    raven

    January 9, 2019 at 9:25 pm

    @lamh36: LAX, Burbank or John Wayne? I don’t know if you saw my last post but here’s the Getty link again. It’s free and mostly inside.

  64. 64.

    WereBear

    January 9, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: What a dark person she was. I took an honors seminar on her, once.

  65. 65.

    raven

    January 9, 2019 at 9:28 pm

    @lamh36:Since its inception in 1965, the Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA) has been devoted to collecting works of art that span both history and geography, mirroring Los Angeles’s rich cultural heritage and uniquely diverse population. Today LACMA is the largest art museum in the western United States, with a collection of over 135,000 objects that illuminate 6,000 years of art history from new and unexpected points of view.

  66. 66.

    Uncle Cosmo

    January 9, 2019 at 9:28 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: For a femtosecond I thought you were asking whether Greenspan was wearing a cup & saying to myself, Yup, real ballbreaker there, wouldn’t want to go anywhere within kicking range without protection…

  67. 67.

    Fair Economist

    January 9, 2019 at 9:28 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Ayn Rand thought Beethoven had a negative sense of life. But Rachmaninoff was fine! Consistency FTW!

  68. 68.

    randy khan

    January 9, 2019 at 9:29 pm

    I don’t really feel like I can compete with Ayn Rand here, but I did want to post this obit of the “Godmother of Title IX.” It’s a great story, and of course Title IX is really important.

    The Godmother

  69. 69.

    RAVEN

    January 9, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    The GRAMMY Museum is located at 800 W. Olympic Blvd., Los Angeles, California (on the corner of West Olympic Boulevard and Figueroa Street), in the L.A. LIVE district. The Museum entrance is located on Figueroa Street between Fleming’s and Shaquille’s.

  70. 70.

    Dan B

    January 9, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    @germy: Human hair growth? Fabio, of course… (yuck!)
    Jason Momoa, hmmmm. Yasss!

    And found out he and Kenny Kravitz hang out together. Kravitz ex is Momoa’s wife. They all seem to have fun together and Kravitz does some great work bringing dental and medical assistance to his isolated home island. Kravitz current l9ng hair looks like fun in his concerts.

  71. 71.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 9, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    @WereBear: Another Russian-Republican connection working to undermine democracy.

  72. 72.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 9, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    @randy khan: dude, trigger warning required. No blind linking to the FTFNYT!

  73. 73.

    raven

    January 9, 2019 at 9:31 pm

    I think lamh36 has pied me.

  74. 74.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 9, 2019 at 9:32 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: And so modest, too.

  75. 75.

    Joy in FL

    January 9, 2019 at 9:32 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I would love to read anything you felt like sharing.

  76. 76.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 9, 2019 at 9:33 pm

    @raven: if she could just get off of that LA freeway without getting killed or caught….

  77. 77.

    JaySinWA

    January 9, 2019 at 9:33 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: A contraction by someone with sloppy fingers and a sloppy mind. I blame the cold I’m getting over.

  78. 78.

    randy khan

    January 9, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    You know, if you hover over the link, you can see where it goes.

    That said, if you want a definitive obit, the Times is the place.

  79. 79.

    raven

    January 9, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: The lights of LA county, shine like diamonds in the sky. . .

  80. 80.

    Barbara

    January 9, 2019 at 9:35 pm

    @raven: I love LACMA. It is not far from the tar pits, 3which are also interesting.

  81. 81.

    RAVEN

    January 9, 2019 at 9:36 pm

    10+ Things to Do in LA When it Rains (Popular Indoor Activities)

  82. 82.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 9, 2019 at 9:36 pm

    @randy khan: doesn’t always work on my iPhone. Maybe Tim Cook hates me?

  83. 83.

    Amir Khalid

    January 9, 2019 at 9:37 pm

    @Dan B:
    Surely you mean Lenny Kravitz, who was Lisa Bonet’s first husband.

  84. 84.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 9, 2019 at 9:38 pm

    @Barbara: I had a response to your post from yesterday or the day before, but I never actually typed and posted it. Which is a shame, because it was both witty and elucidating.

  85. 85.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 9, 2019 at 9:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I think you’d alluded to this before.

  86. 86.

    A Ghost To Most

    January 9, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: You are my hero. My best friend in the USAF, and best man, turned into a greedy Randian libertarian, and we parted ways a few years ago. I’m hoping this whole shitstorm will bring him to his senses, since he was my favorite off-roading partner.

  87. 87.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 9, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: SD is a BJ treasure, so just keep to yourself your opinion that her posts are boring and repetitive!

  88. 88.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    January 9, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    She definitely had an uncanny ability to draw people in. Her eyes were just fucking amazing. Really hard/almost impossible to resist.

    This, to me, is fascinating. Have read about this phenomenon, tho haven’t encountered it myself. Must be weirdly enervating but eerie and decidedly unsettling. Certain folks who attain a cult of personality (Hitler, Rasputin, Rand et al.) apparently oft possess this magnetic hypnotic effect of mesmerizing with their eyes and words in person (and not even eloquent words necessarily, more an imposition of will?).

    The arresting eyes themselves coupled with the riveting intensity sounds like they (can) create an ability to persuade others all out of bounds to the mere spoken word alone.

    Wondering: Was Ayn Rand quite aware of this aspect and worked it? (Seems likely, but curious your experience if willing to share.)

    Thanks for sharing your story.

  89. 89.

    Mike in NC

    January 9, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    Never mind the scruffy beard. Ted Cruz would look better without a face.

  90. 90.

    Dan B

    January 9, 2019 at 9:45 pm

    @raven: I second LACMA. The buildings are great architecture and quite varied. It’s fun to explore them, although the Japanese building can be very dark on overcast days. Across the street is an auto museum. There are plentiful food trucks and a nearby market with lots of variety. (Skip the alligator po-boy unless you have razor sharp teeth and the bite strength of an alligator.)

  91. 91.

    A Ghost To Most

    January 9, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    @germy: I understood that hair follicles take a break from time to time, then start over. Is that crap?

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    January 9, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    I’ve known a couple of guys who really, really did need a body barber. One of them could grow such a full beard at 16 that he once passed in a bar for being older than his dad, who was about 45 at the time. Dad got carded, son didn’t.

  93. 93.

    Jeffro

    January 9, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    So…speaking of all these marriages and remarriages…there’s the Bezos thing…

    1) Apropos of almost nothing, it brought to mind Eddie Murphy’s routine in RAW about “half! Half, Ed-die!” Ouch, Jeff! That’s a $68.5B “half”

    2) No idea of the circumstances of course but being a Verified Internet Commentator, I have to say…wtf? late mid-life crisis?

    3) And of course the National Enquirer is on the case…ugh…

    Anyway, clearly he’s just like the rest of us, give or take $136,999,999,500…

  94. 94.

    Jeffro

    January 9, 2019 at 9:47 pm

    @Mike in NC: you mean, without a head…

  95. 95.

    Mayim

    January 9, 2019 at 9:47 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:
    Guessing imba is ‘involuntary bald’ with a linguistic adjustment of the n in involuntary to m because of the following b ~ that change is pretty typical. Generally, across languages, when choosing between m and n before another consonant, m precedes b and a few other letters/sounds, while n works better with other sounds.

    It’s been a long week (made much longer by the hassles of a broken foot) and my MA in linguistics was 25 years ago, so the name of the phenomenon is escaping me at the moment. Not 100% correlation but very common.

    ETA: explanation for Spanish…. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_phonology#Nasals_and_laterals

  96. 96.

    Burnspbesq

    January 9, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Serious question? I was studying music at Hunter College. Ayn Rand was saying publically that Bach was heartless and Beethoven had a negative malignant sense of life. Something clicked in me and I went all “Yeah, No,” and that was that.

    I know I’m going to regret asking this question, but … what sort of music did she like?

  97. 97.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 9, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Ayn Rand would approve!

  98. 98.

    frosty

    January 9, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    @Baud:

    You’re [SuibhanDuinne] so cool.

    Second that. If nothing else, focusing on rhythm as much as rhyme did it for me.

  99. 99.

    Ruckus

    January 9, 2019 at 9:51 pm

    I’m not entirely bald but the top of my head glistens and I have a full beard. So where do I stop trimming the head so I don’t end up looking like bozo the clown? Where the beard starts of course.

  100. 100.

    frosty

    January 9, 2019 at 9:51 pm

    @Gvg:

    The funniest mistake they make is to keep showing a product I researched and actually bought two years ago and won’t need again for years.

    LOL, exactly. I’m getting ads for a jacket I researched the hell out of, ordered in two sizes, decided neither one fit, and returned them both.

  101. 101.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 9, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    Balloon Juice seem to have a lot of bald men. I wonder what that means.

  102. 102.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 9, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    someone said the other day that twitter needs some kind of “not dead” tag for trending celebrities. Maybe also a not me, too

    in other news, apparently Tommy Chong is participating in some sort of reality or game show

  103. 103.

    Msilaneous

    January 9, 2019 at 9:53 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Next time you visit southern New England (I’m in RI). I’ll look forward to it.

  104. 104.

    frosty

    January 9, 2019 at 9:54 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I’m getting ready to retire at which point we’re planning some long Road Trips. While I’m not plotting where the jackals are, I’ll try to comment on where we are every now and then and see what works out.

  105. 105.

    Brachiator

    January 9, 2019 at 9:55 pm

    @germy:

    Why does my hair and beard keep growing and growing, but my cat never needs a haircut? Her fur has stayed the same length for years now

    There’s a secret cat barbershop.

  106. 106.

    Ruckus

    January 9, 2019 at 9:56 pm

    @Amir Khalid:
    Have a cousin who was bald in his late 20s, IOW you could see mostly skin. 35 yrs later, he has the same amount of hair, and while then I had shoulder length hair and a full beard, I now have far less hair than him on the old noggin.

  107. 107.

    Burnspbesq

    January 9, 2019 at 9:58 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    if she could just get off of that LA freeway without getting killed or caught….

    She’d be sweeping out a warehouse in West L.A.

  108. 108.

    frosty

    January 9, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Which is a shame, because it was both witty and elucidating.

    So, not your typical comment, then?

  109. 109.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 9, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: *seems to

  110. 110.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    Oh yes, Rach was her favourite composer.

    Little-known, but true, fact: Her favourite novelist was Mickey Spillane.

  111. 111.

    Bobbo

    January 9, 2019 at 10:00 pm

    Omg I love your dad

  112. 112.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 9, 2019 at 10:01 pm

    @Barbara: Heh, not far from the tar pits, actually LACMA is built on top of the part of the tar pits.

    ETA: The original buildings used to have reflecting pools, until the tar started to seep into the water in the pools.

  113. 113.

    Brachiator

    January 9, 2019 at 10:03 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Coming late to the thread and can only say Wow to your past association with Rand. Would also love to learn more about the evolution of your political outlook.

  114. 114.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 9, 2019 at 10:03 pm

    @Dan B:

    The buildings are great architecture and quite varied.

    Well, for now. They’re going to tear it all down and rebuild it with a new design.

  115. 115.

    frosty

    January 9, 2019 at 10:03 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Balloon Juice seem to have a lot of bald men.

    /raises hand/
    Dammit!!!! It started thinning at 19. I’d be standing in front of the dorm room mirror wondering “How can I be a hippie without any hair?

  116. 116.

    opiejeanne

    January 9, 2019 at 10:04 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I worked for Goldwater too, but Holeee Shit! Ayn Rand?
    I was 13 and Mom hauled me along when she volunteered at the local HQ, and I licked envelopes. And somewhere I have a nice little note to me from Pat Nixon. Mom met her at a tea when Dick ran for Government. They went to the airport when Nixon’s plane came to LA when he ran for President in 1960.

    I recovered from my Republican upbringing because they also hauled me to Sunday School every week, and I noticed the cognitive dissonance by the time I was 12. Something had to give because the two could not exist in me.

  117. 117.

    Sister Golden Bear

    January 9, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    Who’s a good boy? Cole’s a good boy! That’s right! A very good boy!

  118. 118.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 9, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I am not among them. I have so much hair I once joked with a hairdresser about using gas-powered tools. Lots and lots of hair. thick and fast-growing.

  119. 119.

    Fair Economist

    January 9, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    @Burnspbesq: Rand’s favorite music was light classical, and her favorite composer was the light opera composer Franz Lehar (considered second tier today). But then she liked Rachmaninoff. She criticized a number of the big classicap composers and then approved of a few. All of these choices were supposedly absolutely required by Objectivistic philosophy even though to everybody they seemed as random and arbitrary as anybody else’s choice and maybe even extra odd.

  120. 120.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 9, 2019 at 10:09 pm

    @Msilaneous: Huh. Another one.

  121. 121.

    frosty

    January 9, 2019 at 10:09 pm

    @opiejeanne: My Republican Committeewoman mom took us out of school to see Nixon whistlestop through our podunk South PA town. Last year I started wondering if it really happened and found his schedule online, and yes, he was there. That was just before the PRR abandoned the bridge over the Susky that connected us to the world*. Or so it seemed at the time.

    * ETA Philly

  122. 122.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 9, 2019 at 10:11 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Not me.

  123. 123.

    Brachiator

    January 9, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    @lamh36:

    The museum of modern art has a great Charles White retrospective, through January 13

    https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3930?locale=en

  124. 124.

    Dan B

    January 9, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Yes, Lenny…. Kravitz. Scuse the typo. My bad for not proofing.

  125. 125.

    mad citizen

    January 9, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    Why so many balds? (Me included) How about BJ’s demo includes a disproportionate amount of old farts?

  126. 126.

    Barbara

    January 9, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    @opiejeanne: My dad took all of us to the airport when Eugene McCarthy came to Pittsburgh in 1968. He vacillated between Kennedy and McCarthy. It is all so surreal to me now that we went from that world to this one.

    Also love LACMA, especially the German Expressionists in the context of their migration to Southern California.

  127. 127.

    Dan B

    January 9, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: The new scheme from a few years ago looked wild.

  128. 128.

    Ruckus

    January 9, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:
    We are old. Gravity has pulled all the hair off the tops of our heads. Damn Gravity!

  129. 129.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 9, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    @Brachiator: I clicked on locations and it showed me Queens and Manhattan.

  130. 130.

    joel hanes

    January 9, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    @germy:

    I wonder why, evolution-wise?

    [Speculation]

    One possible mechanism is sexual selection:
    the species-recognition mating preference,
    which can get into a local positive-feedback loop
    until your males look like this :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLnbiTkj1TQ

    Various average human traits have been attributed to sexual selection at one time or another, including long hair, reduced body hair, diminished lower face, especially in women, smaller teeth, gracile upper bodies and smoother skulls in females, language ability, and steatopygia.

  131. 131.

    opiejeanne

    January 9, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: How about Seattle?

    Although, depending on the date St Louis could work for us.

  132. 132.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 9, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    @Dan B: I think that may still be the plan.

  133. 133.

    rikyrah

    January 9, 2019 at 10:20 pm

    Cole,
    You look so comfortable ??

  134. 134.

    Dan B

    January 9, 2019 at 10:20 pm

    @frosty: Stephen Miller seemed to have an idea of how to -something – Chia Pet? from his TV appearance a few weeks ago. Not sure it would work for hippie…

  135. 135.

    Steeplejack

    January 9, 2019 at 10:24 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Yeah, the White show’s not getting to LACMA until next month.

  136. 136.

    opiejeanne

    January 9, 2019 at 10:27 pm

    @raven: Why would she pie you? Did you have words?

  137. 137.

    Msilaneous

    January 9, 2019 at 10:28 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: We’re everywhere.

  138. 138.

    Brachiator

    January 9, 2019 at 10:29 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    I clicked on locations and it showed me Queens and Manhattan.

    Crap!

    I totally blew it. I was flipping through sites on my phone during my commute…

    Looking for MoCA and got MoMA

  139. 139.

    Dan B

    January 9, 2019 at 10:29 pm

    @opiejeanne: Seattle here also but at the other end, and completely different than opiejeanne’s neck of the woods. Our end is gentrifying for interracial hip couples in one direction, artists industrial in another, and 90% non white- 56 languages where we live. Our part is very lower middle class family, less hip but culturally wild.

  140. 140.

    joel hanes

    January 9, 2019 at 10:30 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    In my early twenties, I was a Goldwater Girl.

    At 17, although I despised Nixon, I was a Youth Delegate to the 1970 Iowa Republican Statutory Convention in the Hotel Fort Des Moines. We debated the death penalty; I’m not sure how I voted.
    (I was on the HS debate team, too. And surreptitiously smoked bummed Tareytons.
    Might as well confess to the whole sordid mess.)

    Watching 1970’s senior Iowa Republican cohort drink, convene, adjourn, drink, and seek late-night hotel adventures was a nightmare revelation of sorts: to my teenage eyes, they appeared to be Skexis.

  141. 141.

    rikyrah

    January 9, 2019 at 10:31 pm

    Dear White Reporters,

    Even though she is bi-racial, Senator Kamala Harris has had more of a “regular ” Black experience than Barack Obama.

    Because she has…do some research.
    A reporter following Harris did not…and, the result is unfortunate.

    ………….

    Chelsea Janes (@chelsea_janes) Tweeted:
    Members of her Howard sorority are in the room, and screeched when she mentioned her time there. Did not expect to hear screeches here.

    https://twitter.com/chelsea_janes/status/1083159855525957633?s=17

    ………..

    The responses are pure gold….among my favorites:

    For Wakanda?! No question! (@lbrass3) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes Oh my. This tweet was… unwise ?

    https://t.co/fKTOZPYhJQ https://twitter.com/lbrass3/status/1083188822643486725?s=17
    ,….,….
    Coup de Foutre (@babylonbetty) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes Ooh, chile, you and your mentions about to go through all the stages of grief in one day.

    https://twitter.com/babylonbetty/status/1083182851233845248?s=17

    ………..
    Keisha ________ (@Hey_MissKeisha) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes Wow. When the AKA’s are done roasting you, you’ll be assigned to the Home & Garden section of the Washington Post

    https://twitter.com/Hey_MissKeisha/status/1083202793484242944?s=17
    …………….

    sister, you are welcomed in this house (@StyleandGrace_1) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes Your a journalist . You know that word choice is important … obviously obviously obviously the “screeching” that you so disrespectfully described here has some type of cultural or historical significance. It’s strange that a journalist would make this error

    https://twitter.com/StyleandGrace_1/status/1083201803511046144?s=17

    ,………….

    La Coyote (@satnitespecial) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes I’m just here to watch the lovely women of Alpha Kappa Alpha gather this peasant and read her for filth. Continue on, ladies https://twitter.com/satnitespecial/status/1083191905775730690?s=17

  142. 142.

    Frankensteinbeck

    January 9, 2019 at 10:32 pm

    @lamh36:
    It’s the weekend. Visit the Museum of Jurassic Technology. The story is some rich conservative Christian guy died, and left an endowment with instructions to build a museum to house evidence that humans coexisted with dinosaurs. So the historians bought a house, looked around at the empty rooms, and went “Okay, that’s done. Now what do we do with the rest of the space?” So they filled it with oddities.

  143. 143.

    rikyrah

    January 9, 2019 at 10:32 pm

    In moderation, please help

  144. 144.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    January 9, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    She criticized a number of the big classical composers and then approved of a few. All of these choices were supposedly absolutely required by Objectivistic philosophy even though to everybody they seemed as random and arbitrary as anybody else’s choice and maybe even extra odd.

    That there is a deeply abidingly weird impulse shared by totalitarian ideologues of any stripe. Think Hitler decreeing art that “serves the Reich” vs. “degenerate” art that undermines it. Soviet agitprop designed to win over the masses. Hell, even National Review douchebags are defensively “inspired” to rank films and rock songs by dint of (what they think) are most exemplary of conservativism.

    (And generally embarrassing themselves with a complete misunderstanding: Think Reagan Republicans grocking to Born in the U.S.A. as some sorta anthemic ‘Murica-fuck-yeah! jingo-fest.)

    There’sa certain miserable deformed contorted type a person for whom art don’t exist, just propaganda.

  145. 145.

    Jay

    January 9, 2019 at 10:35 pm

    @Ruckus:

    I don’t blame gravity. Gravity doesn’t explain my hair moving from the top of my head, to inside my nose and ears and down to the back of my neck.

    Has to be some kind of real estate rezoning scam.

  146. 146.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    January 9, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    @Ruckus:

    That’s bad enough, but gravity is also a duende trickster. Removes hair where you wants it n displaces it to where you don’t!

  147. 147.

    Dan B

    January 9, 2019 at 10:37 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Just fyi my Uncle Jack and Aunt Jean lived in Glendale right up by the mountain / hill. Worked at JPL, Lunar and Mars Explorers. Only visited them once. We saw them at gatherings in Arkansas and Lake Michigan. My cousins turned out emotionally damaged, sad.

  148. 148.

    opiejeanne

    January 9, 2019 at 10:38 pm

    @poleaxedbyboatwork: I met David Koresh. Once. He was prosetyzing on the steps of the main library in Riverside, CA and he turned and spoke to us; we instinctively drew back because the intensity of his eyes and his personality was quite frankly scary. He became very offended and I felt bad and tried to apologize but he refused to hear it and went off in an angry snit.
    A few years later, when it all hit the fan, we recognized him and shuddered.
    I don’t think it has anything to do with intelligence, I think I’m just allergic to anyone with that much intensity.

  149. 149.

    lamh36

    January 9, 2019 at 10:38 pm

    @raven: Hey nope. I dont’ have a pie filter. Just been busy and haven’t checked back.

    Thx for the suggestions. I love those…I’m not too sure my sister would though…I’m thinking maybe 1/2 day “formal guided tour” then drive to Santa Monica for some fun on the pier? Even with rain or overcast it should be ok right?

    Then Sunday before the Shrine, I’m thinking maybe the GRAMMY museum…my sis LOVES Whitney Houston and music, so the Grammy museum would be right up her alley…hmm

  150. 150.

    sukabi

    January 9, 2019 at 10:41 pm

    @rikyrah: original tweet was deleted…got a Sorry that page does not exist….

    Don’t think she liked being dragged.

    ?

  151. 151.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 9, 2019 at 10:43 pm

    @frosty: trump taught me the value of using ghost writers!

  152. 152.

    gwangung

    January 9, 2019 at 10:51 pm

    @sukabi: Heh.

    I did point out that what she did was the equivalent of wandering about Lubbock, TX on fall Saturdays and wondering at the numerological significance of the number 12.

  153. 153.

    randy khan

    January 9, 2019 at 10:52 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Janes literally just moved from being the Post’s beat reporter for the Washington Nationals to covering the Presidential campaign. She did a good job with the Nats, but this is a big change for her, to say the least. She’s going to have some adjusting to do.

  154. 154.

    opiejeanne

    January 9, 2019 at 10:56 pm

    @frosty: My parents left us next door with my grandparents while they went to greet Nixon that night. I think the only politicians I met before I was 30 were Goodwin Knight when he was the governor of California and I was a baby. He was a baby kisser and I got kissed. And a US Senator named Henry Kuchel. His campaign button was shaped like a little key with his name on it, because his name was pronounced Kee-kul. Mom didn’t like him because he was a “liberal Republican”.
    Here in WA we seem to rub elbows with politicians quite a bit, but it’s a small state compared to CA.

  155. 155.

    opiejeanne

    January 9, 2019 at 10:58 pm

    @Barbara: I can’t imagine how we got here, politically, even though we all watched it happen. I just don’t understand it at all.

  156. 156.

    opiejeanne

    January 9, 2019 at 11:03 pm

    @Dan B: Where the heck are you?
    We are on the East side, the wilds of Woodinville, but we have a car and are not afraid to drive.

  157. 157.

    opiejeanne

    January 9, 2019 at 11:08 pm

    @poleaxedbyboatwork: During the W administration I wandered into a discussion among a group of conservatives who were fans of Terry Pratchett because they thought he was not only a conservative like them, but also a libertarian. I don’t remember which book they got this idea from, but I know it wasn’t Jingo.

  158. 158.

    Harry Hamid

    January 9, 2019 at 11:10 pm

    When I was younger, I dreamed of having a beard and then just continuing it up over my head as wide as the beard, so it would just look like a loop.

    Then I got older and I could actually have grown something like that, but thought better of it. Now I want to again, but can’t grow the hair atop my head thick enough to pull it off.

  159. 159.

    opiejeanne

    January 9, 2019 at 11:11 pm

    @gwangung: You would get a lot of the same reaction around Seattle, any time of the year for the same reason. Lots of big buildings draped with blue flags with the number 12 on them.

  160. 160.

    Dan B

    January 9, 2019 at 11:29 pm

    @opiejeanne: We’re in mid Beacon Hill three blocks from the Vietnamese Buddhist Monastery, two blocks North of New Holly. We’re a mile east of Georgetown and a mile south southwest of Columbia City.

    Our little development was built for black employees of Boeing after the war. Now it’s black, Chinese, Vietnamese, Philipino, Somali, and more. 10 % N European white.

  161. 161.

    poleaxedbyboatwork

    January 9, 2019 at 11:32 pm

    @opiejeanne:

    Conservatives is weird.

    That, and some peeples seems to know everything about a work of art except how to, you know, enjoy it.

    “I’ma yolk art to my principles and PULLLL dammit!”

    Thanks for sharing your anecdotes.

  162. 162.

    Ruckus

    January 10, 2019 at 12:46 am

    @Jay:
    You’er kidding, right?
    Gravity works in one direction, towards the center of the earth. The hair previously on the top of your head went in the direction of the center of the earth. Ergo gravity moved your hair. That it found places that you don’t like to grab onto to fight the effect of gravity is just tough noggies. That back of the neck part is from when you lay down. You spend more time upright than laying down, right? And your nose and ears are the catch points for when you are upright. Some will end up on your face and the front of your neck, causing you to have to spend more time trying to shave it off or taking the lazy, easy way out and growing a fucking beard. Also some people grow a beard because they have tremors and that causes them to not like putting a razor sharp tool against their skin every day, which increases the chance of slitting their throat. And the impetus to do that grows just a wee bit every day that the shitgibbon is in office. So a beard is also a political self defense object.

  163. 163.

    Barry

    January 10, 2019 at 7:34 am

    I’m skipping over comments above, so this may have been mentioned.

    There are two Getty museums, both free. They are great!

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