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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Since we are repeating ourselves, let me just say fuck that.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

Humiliatingly small and eclipsed by the derision of millions.

“Loving your country does not mean lying about its history.”

Do we throw up our hands or do we roll up our sleeves? (hint, door #2)

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Republicans firmly believe having an abortion is a very personal, very private decision between a woman and J.D. Vance.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

Fear and negativity are contagious, but so is courage!

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

Marge, god is saying you’re stupid.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

Roe is not about choice. It is about freedom.

I would try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

Dear legacy media: you are not here to influence outcomes and policies you find desirable.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

If you don’t believe freedom is for everybody, then the thing you love isn’t freedom, it is privilege.

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

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You’re just a puppy masquerading as an old coot.

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Open Thread: Kindness Of Strangers

by TaMara|  January 24, 201910:30 am| 131 Comments

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https://twitter.com/BeanPhilosopher/status/1088109962088329216

With that, I can face the day.

Oh, and BTW, sounds like Colorado Sen. Gardner will vote for a clean CR.

And bonus snowy ducks. I have to resist moving them to their coop. They are capable of going there all on their own. They hate being cooped and don’t mind the snow as long as there is no wind. Supposed to snow all morning.

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  1. 1.

    Yarrow

    January 24, 2019 at 10:33 am

    sounds like Colorado Sen. Gardner will vote for a clean CR.

    McConnell must know Gardner’s in trouble for his next election.

    Edit: Forgot to add, your ducks are adorable. I’m impressed they like the snow.

  2. 2.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2019 at 10:35 am

    You know damn well that the Feds got a lot more than just Burke on those tapes..

    Oh my, Chicago folks…….SHYT JUST GOT REAL.

    ……………………………..

    Solis secretly recorded fellow Ald. Burke to help feds in criminal investigation
    By Fran Spielman and Jon Seidel | Staff Reporters01/23/2019, 06:03am

    Retiring Ald. Danny Solis (25th), the powerful chairman of the City Council’s Zoning Committee, has secretly recorded more than a dozen conversations with Ald. Ed Burke (14th) over the last two years, including at City Hall, to help federal investigators build their corruption case against him, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.

    Those conversations include Burke meeting with individuals seeking actions by the city, a source familiar with the matter said.

    Federal investigators have focused on Burke allegedly using his influence as chairman of the City Council’s Finance Committee to drum up property tax appeal business for his private law firm.

    Some of the meetings Solis recorded using an electronic listening device took place at the suite of offices reserved for the Finance Committee chairman on the third floor of City Hall.

    That’s the same suite that federal investigators raided Nov. 29, covering the glass doors with brown butcher paper to conceal the search inside.

    Other meetings allegedly took place at Burke’s ward office, the source said. The FBI searched that office the same day as the City Hall raid.

  3. 3.

    lamh36

    January 24, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Sorry but had to get this off my chest!

    FUQ Today And FUQ Savannah Guthrie

    “There has also been some question about the nature of your military service… What exactly is the nature of your service?” @savannahguthrie asks Nathan Phillips

  4. 4.

    Patricia Kayden

    January 24, 2019 at 10:43 am

    Nice story about folks donating to federal employees but given that Trump’s shutdown may go on into April, federal employees are still going to be hurting. I don’t understand how people are expected to live without pay. Then you have that idiot Wilbur Ross acting puzzled because some federal employees are going to food banks.

    Sigh.

  5. 5.

    PaulWartenberg

    January 24, 2019 at 10:46 am

    HUGS TO THE DUCKS TO KEEP THEM WARM.

  6. 6.

    khead

    January 24, 2019 at 10:49 am

    I’m actually optimistic the Senate will pass the clean CR. We’ll see. Meanwhile, I’m still enjoying Nancy Smash going all Nino Brown and telling Trump “Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change” yesterday.

  7. 7.

    Aleta

    January 24, 2019 at 10:53 am

    `? ?

  8. 8.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 24, 2019 at 10:57 am

    @Yarrow: I’m seeing Collins, Gardner and Murkowski are going to vote yes on both bills, if they draw Manchin in, look for the calls for Dems to “get serious” to increase exponentially

  9. 9.

    TaMara (HFG)

    January 24, 2019 at 10:57 am

    it your five dollar ass down before I make change

    @khead: I love that! I’m also optimistic.

  10. 10.

    geg6

    January 24, 2019 at 11:02 am

    So…hanging around the house, watching the snow and waiting on a conference call from HR and the workman’s comp insurer. Slipped on tile at work and severely sprained my ankle. When are the votes so I can turn on C-SPAN?

  11. 11.

    geg6

    January 24, 2019 at 11:07 am

    Oh and TaMara, the ducks are just too adorable!

  12. 12.

    Yarrow

    January 24, 2019 at 11:08 am

    @geg6: Ouch! That sounds painful. Good luck with the workman’s comp people.

  13. 13.

    Nicole

    January 24, 2019 at 11:08 am

    I am really upset to see Federal employees having to accept gifts of peanut butter from private citizens in order to keep feeding their families. That said, that’s an excellent thing young Philosopher Bean did. Thanks for posting the video; that kid and his parents are all right. The Coventry Catholic boys and their parents could learn a thing or two from Bean and his folks. They won’t, of course, but they sure could stand to.

  14. 14.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 11:09 am

    Nancy Pelosi weekly news conference. WaPost home page.

    Takes on Wilbur Ross. “Is this “let them eat cake” or “borrow some money from your dad?”

  15. 15.

    kindness

    January 24, 2019 at 11:09 am

    Back in my 20s I had friends that had a pair of mallards. They let them be indoor ducks in the winter and I have to say those ducks were adorable. Much more puppy like than most birds. Messy though. I couldn’t handle that part of it.

  16. 16.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 11:10 am

    Response to first question. What are you doing to meet with the prez: “We have met. The last time we met it was a photo op for the president to leave the room.”

  17. 17.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 11:12 am

    Now clobbering Senate Republican leadership. On how they passed something 92-6, and won’t bring it up again.

  18. 18.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2019 at 11:12 am

    @lamh36:

    FUQ Today And FUQ Savannah Guthrie

    Phuck that trick.

  19. 19.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 11:14 am

    Pelosi’s proposal is 2 weeks for opening up govt, so talks can begin.

    I don’t like kicking the can down the road. Trump is drawing ever closer to MuellerMas. He’s gonna need another distraction, and soon.

    NDP speaking about 49 billion Homeland Security bill, which will have a lot of provisions.

  20. 20.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 11:17 am

    Says she’s “optimistic about the goodness of the Republicans in the Senate.”

    Says she has a simple ask for them. 12 billion in disaster assistance and 2 weeks — to Feb 8 — short period of time — to open up govt (and begin talks)

    Speaks of those who want to shrink govt and “this is one way to do that”

  21. 21.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 24, 2019 at 11:17 am

    @Elizabelle: There’s a debt ceiling fight coming. Wanna see the global economy really go to hell?

  22. 22.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 24, 2019 at 11:17 am

    @Elizabelle: may be time for some strategic leaking (speaking as a dumb guy on the internet– I’m hoping as much as, more than, offering advice into the tubes)

    David Frum @ davidfrum
    Why is Trump so careful of Pelosi? In October, she told sfchronicle that demanding Trump returns would be “one of first things we do” … She hasnt yet though. Trump can see the brass knuckles on the table in front of her – and must worry when they’ll be used

  23. 23.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 11:17 am

    And she walks off. That was a short and very focused presser.

  24. 24.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2019 at 11:21 am

    @geg6:

    Ouch! I hope the workers’ comp system in PA works as well for you as CA’s did for me when I tore my ACL at work in late 2005. I suspect it has a whole lot to do with how cooperative your employer is. I’ve heard horror stories about uncooperative employers, but I had no trouble with mine so the whole thing went very smoothly.

  25. 25.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 11:21 am

    TaMara: I love the ducks. And how pretty it must be, with the snow. I love Colorado.

    @Matt McIrvin: I think the GOP and White House might be realizing they are up against a tough partner with a disciplined party. Gonna be interesting.

  26. 26.

    catclub

    January 24, 2019 at 11:21 am

    @Elizabelle: Ross has probably started a payday lender at Commerce, with even higher than usual interest and fees to apply to feds taking loans.

  27. 27.

    Yarrow

    January 24, 2019 at 11:23 am

    Hmmm…..

    Just in: Alex Salmond, the former first minister of Scotland, has been charged with 14 offences, including two counts of attempted rape t.co/uaFMz87QZN pic.twitter.com/Bm93tsSEKg— Financial Times (@FinancialTimes) January 24, 2019

  28. 28.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2019 at 11:23 am

    @Elizabelle:

    Response to first question. What are you doing to meet with the prez: “We have met. The last time we met it was a photo op for the president to leave the room.”

    KAPOW

  29. 29.

    Michael Cain

    January 24, 2019 at 11:28 am

    @Yarrow: Gardner was already in trouble in the Front Range suburbs, and the shutdown is just killing him. The north end of the Front Range is full of various federal administrative offices, national labs of multiple sorts, and aerospace companies whose income traces back to the feds. At the south end, Colorado Springs has the highest percentage of jobs dependent on federal dollars of any city outside of the immediate DC area. He’ll vote for the clean CR because the wall polls badly in those same suburbs.

  30. 30.

    catclub

    January 24, 2019 at 11:28 am

    Wilbur Ross is very rich, but wants people to think he is MUCH richer than he actually is.
    I read somewhere that we know of only three people who have lied to get on the Forbes 400 list of Richest Americans.
    Two are Trump and Ross. He was/is also a director of a Bank in Cyprus that catered to Russian oligarchs. Dirty and flying under the chaff put out by Trump

  31. 31.

    Sloane Ranger

    January 24, 2019 at 11:29 am

    Not sure if anyone is interested but Alex Salmond (former First Minister of Scotland and former leader of Scot Nats) has just appeared in an Edinburgh Court charged with 14 counts including 2 of attempted rape. He has been released on bail. He has recently been keeping wolves from the proverbial door by having a show on the Russia Today channel.

    Another famous man with apparent feet of clay and a love of Mother Russia.

  32. 32.

    Frankensteinbeck

    January 24, 2019 at 11:29 am

    @Elizabelle:

    12 billion in disaster assistance and 2 weeks — to Feb 8 — short period of time — to open up govt (and begin talks)

    Bear in mind, one of the main purposes of this is to make Trump submit, to anything. She’s using child rearing tricks on a spoiled brat. First, make them admit that they can’t have their way. That won’t be the end, but it will be a major first step. Proving to each other who will and won’t fold in a confrontation is a major part of this. Trump and Nancy both know this is about breaking his will.

  33. 33.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 24, 2019 at 11:31 am

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Commerce Sec. Wilbur Ross' comments: "Is this the 'let them eat cake' kind of attitude, or 'call your father for money?'" t.co/0clmHPKcVi pic.twitter.com/ttvG2a9mkz

    — ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) January 24, 2019

  34. 34.

    PaulWartenberg

    January 24, 2019 at 11:32 am

    Off-topic, if anyone here reads The Devils Panties webcomic, I think Jennie’s pregnant.

  35. 35.

    Gravenstone

    January 24, 2019 at 11:32 am

    @Patricia Kayden: Ross just wants a cut of some of that sweet sweet usurious interest on the loans he wants all the furloughed employees to take out. Greed never rests.

  36. 36.

    geg6

    January 24, 2019 at 11:32 am

    @Mnemosyne:

    So far, so good! Just got done with conference call, got claim number to call into the doctor and tomorrow I’ll get paperwork to sign off on. HR rep said that should be all I need to do.

  37. 37.

    Gravenstone

    January 24, 2019 at 11:34 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yes on the individual bills, or just yes on cloture?

  38. 38.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    January 24, 2019 at 11:36 am

    @Elizabelle: CNN was running the Ross quote in a chyron when I was at the gym. “Borrow the money. Don’t go to a food bank.” Cripes.

  39. 39.

    burnspbesq

    January 24, 2019 at 11:38 am

    If you were counting on the professionalism of career DOJ employees to help constrain Trump … maybe not.

    takecareblog.com/blog/immigration-lies-and-the-supreme-court

  40. 40.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 11:38 am

    I loved that last part of the quote.

    “This is character building FOR YOU … It’s all going to end up very well, just as long as you don’t get your paychecks.”

  41. 41.

    jeffreyw

    January 24, 2019 at 11:39 am

    Thread needs moar bird pics.

  42. 42.

    Matthew Smith

    January 24, 2019 at 11:44 am

    That peanut butter kid is a natural TV star. His delivery of that line: “Everything kinda sucks, but… this doesn’t.” Amazing. Made my day.

  43. 43.

    Face

    January 24, 2019 at 11:44 am

    Am I the only one quite disturbed that the kid eats PB&J 3 times a day, seemingly every day? Peanut butter, while not terrible and a decent source of protein, isn’t really all that healthy. Jelly is congealed sugar, period. This seems…..like a bigger story, no?

  44. 44.

    tobie

    January 24, 2019 at 11:47 am

    According to the Department of Labor, applications for unemployment have fallen to a 49 year low. This employment boom has happened during a trade war and a government shutdown. I’ve said for some time that, when it comes to economic data, I think Acosta, Mnuchin, Ross, and Hassett are cooking the books.

  45. 45.

    Baud

    January 24, 2019 at 11:48 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    CNN was running the Ross quote in a chyron when I was at the gym. “Borrow the money. Don’t go to a food bank.” Cripes.

    Option 3: Tax the shit out of Wilbur Ross.

  46. 46.

    misterpuff

    January 24, 2019 at 11:48 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Ross = Old Man Potter.

    And then he’ll buy all their property at pennies on the dollah.

  47. 47.

    Yarrow

    January 24, 2019 at 11:48 am

    @Sloane Ranger: I just posted that. The Venn diagram of men who are abusers, separatist movement supporters, and Russia supporters is almost a circle.

  48. 48.

    pat

    January 24, 2019 at 11:51 am

    @Face:
    I believe I read that his mother has somewhere explained that it isn’t all he eats. I did not follow up.

    As to the mallards in the snow, here in the north along the Mississippi they will hang around as long as there is open water. And there are always ducks of some sort swimming around among the ice chunks.

  49. 49.

    spudgun

    January 24, 2019 at 11:54 am

    Aww, ducks…I lurv Maddie and Mabel! But my fave is Gabe – would love a new pic of the furry boo.

    Critters are what keep me going.

  50. 50.

    Yarrow

    January 24, 2019 at 11:54 am

    @geg6: Have you had it x-rayed? A friend of mine stumbled on an uneven bit of concrete and twisted her ankle. She thought it was just a bad sprain. After a few days it wasn’t really getting better so she went to the doctor. They x-rayed it and it turned out she had a small fracture so she ended up in a boot.

  51. 51.

    Brachiator

    January 24, 2019 at 11:54 am

    @Yarrow:

    Just in: Alex Salmond, the former first minister of Scotland, has been charged with 14 offences, including two counts of attempted rape

    I skipped over headlines about this story because none of them mentioned the nature of the charges, and I assumed some minor political offenses. This is far worse than I imagined.

  52. 52.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 11:55 am

    @Matthew Smith: And Bean has autism. Amazing kid.

  53. 53.

    spudgun

    January 24, 2019 at 11:56 am

    @Face: Nope, you’re not – it’s disturbing to me too. Plus, those regular grocery store peanut butters (Jif, etc.) have a TON of sugar, so add that to the jam…

    Phoo!

  54. 54.

    Yarrow

    January 24, 2019 at 11:59 am

    @Face: @spudgun: I also wondered what was going on there. It seems really unhealthy. Maybe the kid is a very picky eater or something.

  55. 55.

    Brachiator

    January 24, 2019 at 12:01 pm

    @tobie:

    According to the Department of Labor, applications for unemployment have fallen to a 49 year low. This employment boom has happened during a trade war and a government shutdown. I’ve said for some time that, when it comes to economic data, I think Acosta, Mnuchin, Ross, and Hassett are cooking the books.

    I think that falsifying data would be tough even for this gang of Trumpian criminals.

    By the way, there is also this

    The tally of furloughed federal employees requesting unemployment aid jumped to 25,419, more than double the previous week. Those figures are tracked in a separate category and aren’t included in the overall figures.

    It is despicable that Trump plays with people’s lives over his vanity projects.

  56. 56.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2019 at 12:03 pm

    forgot to comment..

    always good to see the ducks :)

  57. 57.

    spudgun

    January 24, 2019 at 12:04 pm

    @jeffreyw: Thank you!

  58. 58.

    H.E.Wolf

    January 24, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    @Face:
    @spudgun:

    Good news! The article from wtop.com, linked in the body of the post, explicitly addressed those concerns:

    If you’re worried about his health or nutrition see posts from his mother on original thread

  59. 59.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    January 24, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    Here’s a headline on Kos that set my heart singing: “Mueller’s grand jury conducts rare Thursday session, could be sign of Friday indictments “

  60. 60.

    spudgun

    January 24, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    @Elizabelle: Ahh, I see.

    Well, he’s a good kid with a good heart – that’s a wonderful counterbalance to those horrible CovCath knuckleheads.

  61. 61.

    Yarrow

    January 24, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    Lost in the shutdown standoff: Trump has stopped negotiating to end it.

    – Yesterday, he met with conservatives, not Dems
    – Today, he has no public events, just like he did on Tuesday
    – He hasn't lobbied Senate Dems to back the Trump/McConnell bill
    t.co/9du9hQY0aa
    — Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) January 24, 2019

    Nancy Smash owns him.

  62. 62.

    PaulWartenberg

    January 24, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    it’s the tone-deafness that’s indefensible. it’s another re-wording of “let them eat cake.”

  63. 63.

    PaulWartenberg

    January 24, 2019 at 12:07 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    PLEASE
    PLEASE
    PLEASE
    PLEASE

  64. 64.

    khead

    January 24, 2019 at 12:08 pm

    @tobie:

    They aren’t cooking the books. It’s just that wages are shit. Take comfort in the thought that a lot of shit is gonna hit the fan when a POTUS with a (max) 40% approval rating has to deal with the coming recession.

    Also, fuck Wilbur Ross. I’ll go get a loan when he agrees to pay the interest.

  65. 65.

    Brachiator

    January 24, 2019 at 12:10 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Here’s a headline on Kos that set my heart singing: “Mueller’s grand jury conducts rare Thursday session, could be sign of Friday indictments “

    Oh please, oh please, oh please!

    @Yarrow:

    Lost in the shutdown standoff: Trump has stopped negotiating to end it.

    Maybe they’re preparing for some arrests.

    It would be impudent to speculate, but this would be the capper to a hell of a week

  66. 66.

    Nicole

    January 24, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    @Face: @spudgun: @Yarrow: The piece stated that Philosopher Bean is on the autism spectrum. He likely has some sensory issues with taste and texture; many folk on the spectrum eat limited diets because of sensory stuff.

    ETA: I keep calling him Philosopher Bean because I think that’s an absolutely adorable Twitter handle.

  67. 67.

    tobie

    January 24, 2019 at 12:14 pm

    @Brachiator: I read somewhere that the effect of the shutdown won’t be registered in labor statistics till February and that we’re still witnessing the spillover from the Xmas season right now. That may be true, but I continue to believe that the administration has been cooking the books. In spite of the almost daily news of plants closing (Carrier, GM, Boeing, Verizon, Volvo, Harley Davidson, etc.) as well as the appalling statistics on agricultural sales, job growth and economic growth have continued unabated. Ross, Mnuchin, Acosta, and Hassett all have a history of lying.

  68. 68.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2019 at 12:14 pm

    Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) Tweeted:
    New–Was just told that FBI internships are being canceled due to the shutdown, which amounts to hundreds of hours of investigative support every week “just gone.” FBI declined to comment.

    — Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) January 24, 2019

  69. 69.

    chopper

    January 24, 2019 at 12:15 pm

    @Face:

    that was my first thought too, but that’s because i have two kids and goddamn it is difficult to get them to eat a decent variety of foods.

  70. 70.

    Yarrow

    January 24, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    @Nicole: Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t read the article but wondered if that might have something to do with it.

  71. 71.

    H.E.Wolf

    January 24, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    Autism is one of the conditions in which strong likes and dislikes of food may manifest.

    Strong likes and dislikes of food are a whole world of research unto themselves. I know someone who’s a “super-taster” and, true to the profile, they can’t abide the taste of cilantro.

  72. 72.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 24, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    @chopper: I had a friend in grade school who ate Captain Crunch every morning and canned ravioli for lunch every day, for what I remember as years. I remember marveling at being allowed to dictate the shopping and menu that way. His mother was oddly proud and a bit preachy about the fact that they didn’t allow soda in the house– I wonder if recognized her tone as judgmental then or if that realization came later– so he washed the ravioli down with that greenish Hawaiian punch (Vitamin C!). He grew out of it and damn me if I wasn’t the fat one. Probably the soda my neglectful mother allowed me to drink.

  73. 73.

    tobie

    January 24, 2019 at 12:26 pm

    @khead: Thanks for this pointer. I should dig into the numbers and see how many of the new jobs are paid hourly at or near minimum wage. And good luck to you in the weeks ahead. I know you work for the federal government and may be furloughed if the shutdown continues. Please let us jackals know if you need some support in the near future.

  74. 74.

    Nicole

    January 24, 2019 at 12:26 pm

    @Yarrow: No worries! @H.E.Wolf: is right, likes and dislikes of food is a fascinating aspect of human behavior and development. I had terrible texture issues as a child and ate a pretty limited diet myself. I had terrible fights with my mom as a kid because so many foods bothered me. I wasn’t trying to be difficult; certain foods just “felt” awful in my mouth, to the point where I’d actually throw them back up. It was no fun.

    As an adult, I’ll eat anything, so go figure. The human mind and body, they are still full of mysteries.

    ETA: Except green peas, come to think of it. They still produce a bit of a gag reaction. Although I like green pea soup, so it must be a texture thing. Or just bad memories. ;)

  75. 75.

    chopper

    January 24, 2019 at 12:31 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Trump has stopped negotiating to end it.

    he never really was in the first place, unless you mean by his definition of “negotiate”, aka “i’m sitting here waiting for the dems to come to me and give me everything i want”.

    he honesty thought that he was going to be able to convince the country that the shutdown was all on pelosi and schumer and he was going to jawbone them into getting what he wants.

  76. 76.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    @H.E.Wolf: Julia Child did not like cilantro.

  77. 77.

    trollhattan

    January 24, 2019 at 12:42 pm

    @Baud:

    Option 3: Tax the shit out of Wilbur Ross.

    That, and kill that carried interest loophole at long last.

  78. 78.

    The Midnight Lurker

    January 24, 2019 at 12:43 pm

    Here’s a headline on Kos that set my heart singing: “Mueller’s grand jury conducts rare Thursday session, could be sign of Friday indictments “

    LOTS of backfield in motion from Mueller’s team this a.m.

    Paging Dr. Silverman… paging Ms. Rofer…

  79. 79.

    Citizen Alan

    January 24, 2019 at 12:44 pm

    @misterpuff:

    This. Shitgibbon supporters are all people who watch A Christmas Carol and view it as a nightmarish horror story in which a respectable man of business is terrorized into become a Socialist by three evil spirits.

  80. 80.

    catclub

    January 24, 2019 at 12:47 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Julia Child did not like cilantro.

    … now, butter was a different matter.

  81. 81.

    The Midnight Lurker

    January 24, 2019 at 12:48 pm

    @Citizen Alan: “I wear the chain I forged in life! I built it link by link!”

  82. 82.

    CarolDuhart2

    January 24, 2019 at 12:50 pm

    @Brachiator: Wings Over Scotland Alex Salmond used RT because the Scottish Devolved Government has no access to media of its own. Television and Radio are not devolved (localized) so the broadcasting is run by the BBC. Add to the fact that the SNP is about to have an indyref, and the timing of this arrest is very suspicious indeed. Brexit is going to be very bad for rUK, and Scotland leaving may well be a true body blow.

  83. 83.

    tobie

    January 24, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    @trollhattan: Who is left in the House who can craft targeted tax legislation? Capuano was the architect of Democratic tax policy in the House but he was defeated and Barney Franks, the other financial whiz, retired. The recent talk about marginal tax rates does not even begin to address how financial tycoons earn money. But, I guess, in an age of populism it gives everyone a convenient enemy to brand-mark. I wonder if AOC has considered that her ‘tax proposal’ is more likely to hurt athletes and entertainers than it is to affect hedge fund managers.

  84. 84.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2019 at 12:53 pm

    @tobie:

    I’ve said for some time that, when it comes to economic data, I think Acosta, Mnuchin, Ross, and Hassett are cooking the books.

    You ain’t never lied

  85. 85.

    debit

    January 24, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    @catclub: I remember watching an old episode where she made a tort with six sticks of butter. She said, “Now, I know this seems like a lot of butter…” and even child me was, “NO SHIT.”

  86. 86.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    @geg6:

    Slipped on tile at work and severely sprained my ankle. When are the votes so I can turn on C-SPAN?

    I feel for you as a survivor of the severely sprained…but, do get it checked out…just to be on the safe side.

  87. 87.

    Gravenstone

    January 24, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    @Brachiator: Bush jr. kept an entire WAR off the books so his budgets wouldn’t look bad. Seems like a typical Republican response to unflattering numbers. Just hide the source.

  88. 88.

    germy

    January 24, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    Recall that during Obama admin we were constantly told he could not address racism or other issues impacting African-Americans because he had to be the "president of all Americans." Now the media narrative is often about what Trump must do to please his base, rest of us be damned t.co/v2BdbWrmp8— Bree Newsome Bass (@BreeNewsome) January 23, 2019

  89. 89.

    Jackie

    January 24, 2019 at 1:03 pm

    From the Washington Times: A political action committee that pushes for stricter immigration controls said Thursday it is launching a campaign to draft conservative writer Ann Coulter to challenge President Trump.
    ????????????

  90. 90.

    germy

    January 24, 2019 at 1:05 pm

    If you support a coup in Venezuela because of a rigged electoral process, then why they hell aren't people declaring Stacey Abrams the rightful governor of Georgia?— Christo Aivalis (@christoaivalis) January 23, 2019

  91. 91.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 24, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    @germy: that’s been true at least since Gingrich called all the rage-monkeys to the polls and the House, the Broderist take has been “well, Republicans have to pretend to be crazy to satisfy their base, but it’s up to Democrats to figure out a way to govern anyway, so both sides…”

    If there is a hell and god loves the USA that old asshole is swimming in a lake of fire

    (MSNBC reporting Manchin is voting yes on both proposals, to give fuel to the above, because he is very dumb)

  92. 92.

    trollhattan

    January 24, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    @tobie:
    True enough. This douche, for example. How much simple income does he declare on a typical return? Probably a sliver of what he made.

  93. 93.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 24, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    emptywheel @ emptywheel
    Remember when it was politically damning not to know what a grocery checkout scanner looked like?

    Now billionaires dismiss missing two paychecks and it’s barely a blip.

  94. 94.

    Kay

    January 24, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    I read the book about Theranos (highly recommended) and because I’m a smidge obsessive that led me to watching Elizabeth Holmes youube videos and NOW I have the depositions! :)

    I must say I love that about the internet. That if you’re of a mind to you can become an expert on some weird thing and just pursue it to the nth degree

  95. 95.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 24, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    trump’s approval ratings are down about 5 points in every poll I’ve seen, and this idiot thinks Dems are losing?

    And Representative Kurt Schrader, a member of the Blue Dog coalition, a caucus for Democratic moderates, tells Politico, “Not negotiating is not a good strategy. We lost the messaging battle over the weekend. We can’t reject stuff out of hand, you have to at least consider it.”
    The notion that Democrats are “losing” the battle seems totally bizarre. Trump’s approval rating has fallen into the 30s. A Fox News poll shows Trump’s approval on handling of border security (!) at minus ten. Trump’s own economists are pleading with him through the media to end the shutdown before it triggers a recession, which of course would all but doom his already-tenuous chances of winning reelection. If this is Democrats “losing,” what would winning look like?

    I think he’s talking to the same people telling Biden to dismiss the base with savvy sarcasm

  96. 96.

    germy

    January 24, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    Someone is nervous:

    I welcome your circus of an investigation @RepCummings.Open that Pandora’s box and we get to talk all about Team @BarackObama & @HillaryClinton’s clearances.And also all about how Democrat holdovers took Team @realDonaldTrump’s clearances hostage. SO BRING IT t.co/20s4CT6b2z— Sebastian Gorka DrG (@SebGorka) January 24, 2019

  97. 97.

    JPL

    January 24, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    @germy: That works for me.

  98. 98.

    trollhattan

    January 24, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Somehow I was under the impression all the blue dogs got sent away to a nice farm upstate.

    Except Manchin.

  99. 99.

    WaterGirl

    January 24, 2019 at 1:18 pm

    @Elizabelle: Is there a link to the press conference? I was on a long call until a few minutes ago, and I’m about to be on another one. Hoping I can find a link when I return!

  100. 100.

    Kay

    January 24, 2019 at 1:19 pm

    @germy:

    And also all about how Democrat holdovers took Team @realDonaldTrump’s clearances hostage.

    Yes, the public will be very interested in that. The transition personnel problem. What fucking planet do these people live on that they imagine that people care about this shit?

    The low quality Trump team never really moved past election day. Glory Days.

  101. 101.

    geg6

    January 24, 2019 at 1:20 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Definitely had it x-rayed. Happened at work and was walking with my boss to go to lunch. He saw the whole thing and made me call HR right away. They made me go have it x-rayed. So going through the workers comp thing, which seems to have been smooth so far.

  102. 102.

    Gravenstone

    January 24, 2019 at 1:20 pm

    @germy: Such a pompous little peckerweasel he is. He’ll either fold like a cheap suit, or clam up behind a 5th Amendment claim. Unless he just skips the country outright.

  103. 103.

    trollhattan

    January 24, 2019 at 1:21 pm

    @germy:
    Among the many, many fake Tough Guys remora’d to this administration, Gorka tops my list for requiring a swift and hardy kick to the balls. With boots. Beavis and Butthead-style. What a worthless, attention-seeking prick.

  104. 104.

    Baud

    January 24, 2019 at 1:25 pm

    @Kay:

    The low quality Trump team never really moved past election day.

    Neither have I. I don’t know if I ever will.

  105. 105.

    Kay

    January 24, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    Mandatory overtime has dried up completely here. We’re primarily auto industry so perhaps not representative but methinks Donald Trump’s troubles have just begun because without a really hot economy he’s just a shitty president surrounded by corrupt incompetents and all that accrued public ill-will is cumulative. It’s just been waiting in the wings.

  106. 106.

    Baud

    January 24, 2019 at 1:27 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I give Blue Dogs from swing districts leeway to play the both sides card, as long as they don’t take it too far.

  107. 107.

    Baud

    January 24, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    @germy:

    Recall that during Obama admin we were constantly told he could not address racism or other issues impacting African-Americans because he had to be the “president of all Americans.” Now the media narrative is often about what Trump must do to please his base, rest of us be damned t.co/v2BdbWrmp8— Bree Newsome Bass (@BreeNewsome) January 23, 2019

    I also recall an erstwhile media obsession with the president’s ability to lead.

  108. 108.

    Kay

    January 24, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    @Baud:

    Sure you have. Please. We’re like measuring the drapes for ’20. As we should be! :)

    I’m dying to get another crack at these douchebags. I’m pleased we get a second chance, in fact.

  109. 109.

    Baud

    January 24, 2019 at 1:33 pm

    @Kay: I like your pre-primary optimism.

  110. 110.

    Kay

    January 24, 2019 at 1:34 pm

    @Baud:

    Political media do not recognize that there is a Dem base, and if they are FORCED to recognize it they characterize it as “interest groups” or part of a “culture war”

    There is the Republican base and then there are “swing voting independents” – those are the valid parts of the electorate.

  111. 111.

    Kelly

    January 24, 2019 at 1:35 pm

    @trollhattan: “That, and kill that carried interest loophole at long last.”

    End all loopholes, deductions, credits etc at the top bracket. Every dollar past the top bracket taxed. Cap gains, inheritances, carried interest dividends whatever it gets taxed at the top rate.

  112. 112.

    trollhattan

    January 24, 2019 at 1:35 pm

    And in other Wednesday news, Florida. Crazy guy. Guns. Many dead. 2nd Amendment defended, again.

    Mr Xaver worked as a trainee prison officer with the Florida Department of Corrections, according to officials. There were no issues during his employment, but he resigned abruptly in January.

    Speaking on Thursday, Ms Gerlach said that nobody had taken seriously previous threats made by her former boyfriend. “He got kicked out of school for having a dream that he killed everybody in his class, and he’s been threatening this for so long, and he’s been having dreams about it and everything,” Ms Gerlach told WSBT-TV. “Every single person I’ve told has not taken it seriously, and it’s very unfortunate that it had to come to this,” she added.

    She was also quoted by the Washington Post as saying that last week Mr Xaver told her he had bought a gun. But she added that “no-one thought anything of it” because he had always liked guns.

    And guns liked him.

  113. 113.

    Baud

    January 24, 2019 at 1:36 pm

    @Kay: You are especially full of the truth today, Kay.

  114. 114.

    MisterForkbeard

    January 24, 2019 at 1:38 pm

    @germy: I mean, sure. Let’s contrast possibly illegal security clearances and/or not enforcing penalties on Trump appointees and relatives against…. some holdover Obama people temporarily retaining clearances?

    What a joke. These idiots are in their own world.

  115. 115.

    Louise B.

    January 24, 2019 at 1:43 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Kurt Schrader is one of the few members of the House whose district is truly a dead heat, according to Cook Political Reports. He can’t keep his seat without winning over lots of independents. I’m sure Nancy Pelosi knows this, and is cutting him slack to take this position.

  116. 116.

    catclub

    January 24, 2019 at 1:46 pm

    @Gravenstone:

    Bush jr. kept an entire WAR off the books so his budgets wouldn’t look bad.

    Obama made sure the war was put back ON the books so that ending the war spending made his budgets look good.

  117. 117.

    Kelly

    January 24, 2019 at 1:50 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: ” Representative Kurt Schrader, a member of the Blue Dog coalition,”
    Oh damn, that arrogant fool congress critter is my arrogant fool congress critter. He’s been anti Pelosi all along claiming she’s incompetent with backing his claims up. Called his office 3 times over her reelection as Speaker, even got a bullshitty reach across the aisle letter from is office.

    Away to the phone!!!!!!!!!

  118. 118.

    tobie

    January 24, 2019 at 1:52 pm

    @trollhattan: Yeah, I would love to know how people like Jaime Dimon or hedge fund managers make their money. Seems like that’s a necessary first step for figuring out how to revise the tax code.

  119. 119.

    Seanly

    January 24, 2019 at 1:59 pm

    @catclub:

    Yeah, Ross thinks the Federal workers should just get loans against their future income – why get food from a pantry. Given the shutdown and the billionaires laughing about the peons floating a 70% top marginal rate, I saw we nuke Davos & DC from orbit. Madam Guillotine for the ruling elites not caught in those conflagrations.

  120. 120.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    January 24, 2019 at 2:06 pm

    @Kay:
    Really? What county do you live in? I live in NE Ohio as well, so you could practically be in my backyard!

  121. 121.

    Kelly

    January 24, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    @Baud: Schrader vote % 2008 54/38 2010 51/46 2012 54/42 2014 54/39 2016 54/43.
    This district has a lot of very noisy right wingers in the hinterlands but it isn’t really a swing district.

  122. 122.

    Sloane Ranger

    January 24, 2019 at 2:14 pm

    @CarolDuhart2: He was arrested by Policing Scotland and is being prosecuted under Scottish law, the senior law officers being ultimately answerable to the Scottish government which is currently run by the SNP. Mr Salmond has recently won a civil case concerning the process used by the Scottish Parliament to investigate the allegations against him.

    If this is political, then it seems to be coming from the Scot Nats themselves.

    Plus there are devolved/local media. If you don’t accept BBC Scotland, there’s Scottish TV, the independent station, not to mention a host of local independent radio stations.

  123. 123.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2019 at 2:18 pm

    @Sloane Ranger:

    Another famous man with apparent feet of clay and a love of Mother Russia.

    Being a rapey guy makes one very vulnerable to blackmail these days. Just sayin’.

  124. 124.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2019 at 2:22 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Ha! I was just about to speculate that Bean was on the autism spectrum, because that kind of behavior around food is VERY common. My ASD nephew spent about 2 years of his life refusing to eat anything but cheese. It was all cottage cheese, grilled cheese, and quesadillas, washed down with milk. He’s fine and his parents were eventually able to coax him to expand his horizons.

  125. 125.

    Brachiator

    January 24, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    @tobie:

    but I continue to believe that the administration has been cooking the books.

    This is much harder to accomplish than you suggest. And the Trump team is typically at best semi-competent. I remember the Treasury Secretary waving around a nearly blank piece of paper that was supposed to show how magical Trump’s tax cuts would be, while all real data, even government reports, refuted their lies.

    Still, it would be interesting if someone looked into this. If it were true, it would have a devastating impact on the economy.

    In 2015, Argentina tried a number of gimmicks to try to hide a bad economy.

    The national statistics institute produced fictitious inflation figures to disguise annual price rises of more than 40%. The central bank printed money to finance the deficit, which swelled to 5.4% of GDP in 2015.

    But they were found out and the repercussions were very unpleasant.

  126. 126.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    @trollhattan:

    With the stuff that’s been coming out about the guy’s long history of mental illness (particularly major depression), I suspect that this was a failed suicide by cop, with a failsafe of suicide by death penalty.

  127. 127.

    Brachiator

    January 24, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    @tobie:

    @trollhattan: Who is left in the House who can craft targeted tax legislation? Capuano was the architect of Democratic tax policy in the House but he was defeated and Barney Franks, the other financial whiz, retired.

    That’s a good question. The Democrats will need some good people and staff to undo the damage of Trump’s tax cuts and to craft good alternative legislation.

    I wonder if AOC has considered that her ‘tax proposal’ is more likely to hurt athletes and entertainers than it is to affect hedge fund managers.

    Oddly enough, the new tax law is much better for owners of sports franchises than for wealthy athletes. But this is consistent with Trump’s real disdain for anyone who is not in the corporate class.

  128. 128.

    Orchid Moon

    January 24, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Just listened to Michael Bennet (D-CO) go off on Ted Cruz (R-TX) on C-Span about the wall, and his crocodile tears over the first responders. Wow! It’s on Raw Story if you want to listen. It’s great, and he goes on for almost 10 minutes covering quite a bit of ground. Glad he is one of my senators.

  129. 129.

    justsomeguy

    January 24, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    @Face: At .78, I am guessing that brand of PB is loaded with “sweeteners”. Yes, fake PB, fake jelly, & white bread doesn’t seem like a healthy diet.

  130. 130.

    Elizabelle

    January 24, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    @WaterGirl: re Nancy Pelosi’s press conference

    Here’s C-Span link to today’s press conference. 16:12.

    Here’s transcript of last week’s press conference; this week’s is not up yet. Pelosi, January 17.

  131. 131.

    EthylEster

    January 24, 2019 at 4:34 pm

    @The Midnight Lurker: My holiday celebrations always includes at least one film version of A Christmas Carol. It is so compact and focused compared to the rest of Dickens’ work.

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