Yeah. I hope we spend the next 3 weeks getting other departments funded so there are fewer hostages available for Trump to try this bullshit again.
2.
PJ
I don’t hate Chuck, but if we take back the Senate in 2020, we could use a new majority leader.
And I would be very happy if we ever got a President Pelosi. (ETA: Perhaps simultaneous indictments for Trump and Pence? A boy can dream.)
3.
WaterGirl
Have you read The Onion article from today where Chuck is totally shocked that he didn’t fold? It’s pretty funny, but not as funny as the one two down from it where Jared assures us he would only have sold state secrets for a good amount of coin.
4.
WaterGirl
I wonder why the cartoonist made Nancy look so chunky when she is so slim and always looks so elegant?
5.
Yarrow
But he didn’t and the Dems didn’t fold. Credit to all of them.
Nancy SMASH owns Trump. She is awesome. Bow down to the Queen!
6.
dmsilev
It’s almost too bad that she hasn’t yet agreed on a rescheduled date for the SotU. Tuesday would be just about right; Trump gets to spend a weekend listening to the whole world laugh at how she beat him silly, then he has to get up and speak while she stands behind him holding a large hammer. With a week or two to convince himself that he really won, biggly, it wouldn’t have the same impact.
7.
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: I’m pretty sure they are going to have to pass another much longer CR (at the very least) before Donnie gets an invite again.
8.
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: Also, isn’t the hair wrong? Isn’t Nancy’s hair a bit longer these days?
9.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@WaterGirl: I suspect he just changed the hair color on a previously-drawn cartoon of Hillary. All us bitches look alike, right?
10.
MisterForkbeard
and there ain’t nothing you can say that would convince me otherwise.
Okay, this is a longshot but how about this: “You’re wrong.” :)
11.
MisterForkbeard
@Yarrow: This. It’s a team effort, even if we couldn’t have done it w/o Nancy the entire Dem caucus contributed. As did we and everyone else who was vocally pissed off about it.
I suspect he just changed the hair color on a previously-drawn cartoon of Hillary.
Was getting ready to comment exactly that!
15.
JoyceH
I JUST saw video of Pelosi signing the House bill. She did the thing where she signed with cameras rolling, a bunch of people ranged behind her, using a bunch of pens and then handing out the pens to various people. I’ve never see a Speaker do that. Is that usual or is she going “coequal branch, bitches!” ?
16.
Yarrow
@SiubhanDuinne: Me three. Also, have you talked to efg about a possible tablet or laptop? We miss him!
17.
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: Yeah, I get why they bloated Trump, but she is all wrong, except for the red!
18.
WaterGirl
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: You know, even before you said that I actually thought that did look a lot more like Hillary than Nancy Smash. Maybe that is what happened. Parts is parts, am I right?
19.
Cacti
Remember when the House bro caucus didn’t want her to be Speaker?
You’re dead right about Schumer. I still don’t understand why Durbin didn’t become the Democratic leader. He’d be ten times the leader Schumer is.
27.
Cacti
My favorite moment of the past few weeks:
Trump: “I will be holding the SOTU in the House Chamber as planned! What are you gonna do about it?”
Pelosi: “Why don’t you sit down and shaddup.”
Trump: “Yes ma’am.”
28.
Villago Delenda Est
The MAGAts are writhing in pain right now.
GOOD.
29.
WaterGirl
@debbie: Could have gone with “Nancy”. :-) Or left her in a dress and gone vertical instead of horizontal. Either way, it takes away from the effectiveness of the cartoon. Nancy Pelosi is all class and Trump has none.
30.
FelonyGovt
@Cacti: Or as someone put it, Nancy turned SOTU into STFU.
31.
khead
So, NATCA went on strike. Air traffic slowed for only one morning and – instead of a mass firing – a deal was done by the afternoon.
I believe the phrase I used yesterday was “I’m optimistic”.
32.
Elizabelle
@WaterGirl: That’s Hillary’s body. And style of dress. On Pelosi. How interesting.
ETA: Maybe it’s a recycled cartoon for when Hillary defeated Trump, massively?
Hey, now, chunky and unattractive are two whole other things from each other. My wife is more than chunky. She’s, well, fat. And she’s gorgeous. And when she’s older, she’s going to be older, fat and gorgeous.
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): I don’t know what the levers of power are in either leader’s job. the CW, and for as long as I’ve been following politics, is that most Senators take themselves extremely seriously and hold themselves in very high regard. Add to that someone like Manchin who’s very dumb and sees himself as a statesman, you’re not just herding cats, you’re herding cats on coke. (edited, again, autocorrectopalooza)
@Cacti: and she still hasn’t scheduled the SOTU. President Deals let her know how much that moment of attention means to him, so she’s holding it back. Hopefully it will work on the upcoming “fiscal cliff”
Yeah, but Durbin came to the Senate two years before Schumer did, so that can’t be it.
37.
Elizabelle
Well you can tell I read the thread from the bottom up, once I’ve responded to someone.
Yes, Collette and Subaru. You were on it.
38.
debbie
I’m flashing back to the furor over the ugly courtroom sketch of Tom Brady.
39.
Elizabelle
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Use the SOTU (STFU Donald) as a carrot. No SOTU for you, pal, until we have our funding in place for the entire year. No more shutdowns.
And when does the debt ceiling drama come up?
40.
Felanius Kootea
Six inch heels, she stomped on the clown like nobody’s business
Goddamn, she murdered everybody and I was her witness
…
Stars in her eyes
She fights for the power, keeping time
…
She too smart to crave material things
She pushing herself day and night
Yes, it looks to me like the way they used to depict Hillary.
42.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
STOP SAYING I LOST I WON I WON I WON
@ realDonaldTrump
The Wall is different than the 25 Billion Dollars in Border Security. The complete Wall will be built with the Shutdown money plus funds already in hand. The reporting has been inaccurate on the point. The problem is, without the Wall, much of the rest of Dollars are wasted!
“Shutdown money”. I can usually sort of follow him, the way you can often tell what a toddler is trying to say. I’m a little lost on Shutdown money.
If it weren’t for Pelosi, Schumer would have folded and there ain’t nothing you can say that would convince me otherwise.
Wouldn’t dream of even trying, John. Schumer’s useless. Not looking forward to seeing him as majority leader if Dems retake the Senate next year.
45.
Plato
Kinda ironic that thug raygun ‘made his bones’ on air traffic controllers, who now broke the bones of a raygun political thug spawn.
46.
chris
@khead: Add the glorious polls–an 8 point drop in a week!– and the MSM, which Trump says he never watches, running stories of people trying to cope and failing. Not to mention pictures on twitter of gummint workers at food banks
The idiot thinks lots of government money was saved by not paying for employees and stuff, and that all of that got squirreled away into some magic savings fund that is now available for him to steal spend on WALL.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Apparently, he thinks the shutdown saved money for the US Government. As though civil servants’ back wages didn’t have to be paid, as though leaving citizens’ urgent needs unserved was painless and cost-free, as though leaving essential government work undone was harmless.
Also, for years I’ve listened to local radio (mostly sports but some politics) in the Balt-DC (and now Philly) corridor and there are all sorts of garbage ads (cars for kids, testosterone, divorce lawyers, ambulance chasers, and now casinos, etc.). It always struck me as a bit odd that one of the advertisers – across multiple shows – is NATCA. The air traffic controller folks. Nice 30 second spots that simply highlight how airports need the controllers and you should support them, etc. Just wondering if this is a local DC-Balt thing.
it is easier for her, she has the power and can use it. that being said, the more he sticks with her on these issues the better it is for the dems on the hill.
i was expecting more “now go get yer fuckin’ shine box” jokes today TBH
64.
Baud
@chopper: Plus, half her caucus isn’t running for president!
65.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
You know who’s got the pulse of the American people? You know who knows the real score? The fucking host of fucking Love Connection, that’s fucking who.
Chuck Woolery @ chuckwoolery
Trump doesn’t fold, he repositions. Let’s see what happens.
You’ve just been wooleried, libs. Deal with it.
66.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I don’t think Chuck has been a great leader in the past, but I’ll bet he is learning a lot from Nancy!
I remember when everyone talked about how useless Reid was.
74.
WaterGirl
@Adam L Silverman: Oh, come on, she’s at least a 2! Besides, they could have gone vertical with the name. Or, if the cartoon figure had remotely the same build as Nancy, you wouldn’t have needed a name.
I am on Team “this person already had a drawing of Hillary and didn’t think twice about how it was all wrong”. Note to cartoonist: women are not interchangeable.
75.
Adam L Silverman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: He somehow thinks that whatever hasn’t been spent on the closed portions of the government for the past month is somehow now available as discretionary funding that he can spend as he sees fit.
76.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: I don’t know when Tm Russert died, but back then I loved Tim Russert and watched all the Sunday shows. I’m pretty sure it was getting on board with Barack Obama in 2007 that turned me from one of those annoying “both sides do it” and “I love the NYT” people. Thank god!
edit: The google tells me that Tim Russert died on my birthday in 2008, so I’d say my guess on timing was pretty good. Haven’t watched another Sunday show since 2008.
edit: way back when, I thought both Reid and Nancy Pelosi were both worthless. I completely bought all the conventional wisdom in the olden days.
77.
Ken
@JoyceH: Versus the Trump signings, where he borrows pens from the crowd and doesn’t return them?
(Just kidding. I think.)
78.
Jackie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: LOL! I’m sure he’s ready to get down to Mar-A-Laco – he hasn’t been there since last year?
79.
Aleta
@Amir Khalid: Apparently, he thinks the shutdown saved money for the US Government. himself to use in whatever way he wants.
I can kick your ass as well as your mouth at the same time.
Wow. Pelosi said this out loud. Big step for her. “In the face of 37 indictments, the President’s continued actions to undermine the Special Counsel investigation raise the questions: what does Putin have on the President, politically, personally or financially?”
— Michael McAuliff (@mmcauliff) January 26, 2019
@Adam L Silverman: @Aleta: Just as he seemed to think, going by his comments to Chris Christie, that money raised for his campaign or his transition was HIS money.
87.
Adam L Silverman
@chris: Depending on how the contracts were written, the companies get paid, not only that they get paid as soon as the shutdown started. There is no requirement on the companies to pay the furloughed contractors though.
88.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@WaterGirl: Russert was by most accounts a good guy in real life. Verbally dope-slapped David Gregory for treating a waitress rudely, protected Keith Olbermann back in the ‘special comment’ (wasn’t it?) days. But I’ve never seen anybody this side of John McCain buy so completely into his own media legend, and Bill Clinton’s sex life broke him.
89.
plato
Nancy Pelosi on the Roger Stone indictment: "It is staggering that the President has chosen to surround himself with people who violated the integrity of our democracy and lied to the FBI and Congress about it."
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 26, 2019
90.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: And despite Durbin being Reid’s second for years, Reid met with them both and explained why he was hand picking Schumer to succeed him. Though in Reid’s defense, he thought Schumer would be taking over as majority leader, not minority leader.
@WaterGirl: I was teasing. I have no idea why the cartoonist did this.
93.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
“SARAH! Make Ann Coulter stop mean-tweeting me. Tweet something nice about me”
Sarah Sanders @ PressSec
In 21 days President @realDonaldTrump is moving forward building the wall with or without the Democrats. The only outstanding question is whether the Democrats want something or nothing
I am still not above needling my Very Concerned Friends about their concern over Pelosi’s age and general girl cooties. Cuz yeah, I think they deserve it and yeah, I know that that’s petty.
This has to be one of the most ridiculous conversations I’ve seen here!
Thank you!
97.
plato
Whatever happened to that let’s build the wall for the don con on gofundme?
98.
joel hanes
I thought both Reid and Nancy Pelosi were both worthless.
Very difficult to hold the line when the voters do not have your back.
In the aftermath of 9/11, virtually all pundits and about nine tenths of the electorate went insane, and eagerly bought into the Republican security/vengeance/hard-ass/proto-fascist narrative. Democrats who stood up against that wave were excoriated by their own voters.
It was a bad time in America. Worse, in many important ways, than Trumpism.
99.
Adam L Silverman
@PJ: It’s all his money. Your money, my money, the public’s money. It’s really all his money.
100.
chris
@Adam L Silverman: Thanks, that’s what I thought. Krugman said the number was 1.2 million. Funny how rarely if at all they were mentioned on the news.
101.
debbie
I don’t understand why the tweets plato has posted are dated tomorrow.
Nancy Pelosi: "In the face of 37 indictments, the President's continued actions to undermine the Special Counsel investigation raise the questions: what does Putin have on the President, politically, personally or financially?"
@plato: The guy who ran it changed how the money was going to be used (from giving to the Gov to a personal account of his, that he would direct towards the Wall), so GoFundMe made him refund all the money.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: So basically “We’re going to declare a fake national emergency and fuck over people who actually had disasters and take money from their funding.” Nice, that will go over well.
Amazing that they’re still trying to pretend Trump won the exchange. I think they’re trying to establish a media line their propaganda organs can use, but it’s not really working so far.
@chris: Also while still on the job and facing shutdown, people had to stop what they were doing and try to arrange for an orderly shutdown. More days wasted.
I really want to get a Democratic Senate and never again hear about “shutdowns” and “continuing resolutions”. I want to see our theoretical budget process in actual practice again. Is that too much to ask for?
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: And as soon as they get back to work on Monday they will begin preparing for the next one. It takes approximately two weeks to do so.
117.
PJ
@debbie: Last week or so, Adam posted a link to an article by Rick Perlstein about how the modern GOP is one big grift, and while the ultimate goal is to loot the whole country and get something from everybody’s pockets, the biggest marks are the non-millionaires who support them through donations.
118.
Adam L Silverman
It will soon be Sean Hannitty’s time in the barrel.
Fox News' Sean Hannity appears to have acted on directives from newly revealed Stone-WikiLeaks emails https://t.co/qNcbSmJfzw
No. In my more optimistic moods, I think that the national Republican party is doing to itself what the California Republicans did a decade or too ago, and hope for much the same outcome.
Most if not all editorial cartoonists pay little attention to realism. That is not the point of editorial cartooning.
122.
Doug R
@JR: Yeah, as far as cartoons go, the way Pelosi is drawn fits with the universe of the way trump is drawn. Also I think the larger butt implies some swagger. Might have worked slightly better if he drew Pelosi walking towards us putting on the sunglasses, but I think it was too hard for him to draw.
Overall, I agree with the cartoonist’s sentiment.
123.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
The gossip/reporting has been that Jared encouraged the old Beast to hang on, the Dems were about to cave!
Jared’s fingerprints are now on the Comey firing and the shutdown. And the dumb fuck will probably continue to turn to him, because he’s Mr Ivanka, the man trump wants to be in so many ways.
124.
Mai Naem mobile
@Adam L Silverman: Sean Hannity’s time in the barrel and its heading over the Iguazu Falls? I am beginning to wonder what kind of business Rupert Murdoch is doing with Putin because it truly doesn’t make sense to egg on Trumpov with the Fox&Friends garbage, Tucker,Judge Jeanie etc when it’s obvious its not going to end well. I am talking beyond Wendy Deng being Putin’s gf.
125.
trollhattan
@Adam L Silverman:
If Hannity gets swept up in this torrent of felonious consequences then I won’t be happy, I’ll be deliriously happy.
126.
PJ
@Adam L Silverman: It’s not surprising, given what we know about Trump and the people he surrounds himself with (or who thought they could use him to advance their own goals), but every person who has been indicted so far, or looks like they will be indicted, is some variety of asshole, with no obvious redeeming qualities.
I say this because I have known Republicans (Trump supporters, even) who have good qualities.
I have a little bit of sympathy for Don, Eric, and Ivanka, because of the role model they were brought up with, but they also seem to completely lack empathy, and they will hopefully get their deserts as well.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: You are more polite than I am. My thought was WTF is shutdown money?
I think maybe he thinks they get to keep the money they should have been paying people during the shutdown. Un-fucking-believable.
That’s been a recurring phrase from Trump over the last five weeks. Sometimes it has been clear from the context that yes, indeed, he means the money not paid to furloughed or unpaid-working staff. He remains convinced, in the face of repeated explanation, that their back wages are now up for grabs — because welching on debts has always been his MO.
128.
Mai Naem mobile
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I am wondering if Jared suffers from the same psychological issues as Trumpov and that’s what attracted Ivanka to him. She married her daddy. That’s some fucked up female version Oedipus kind of stuff.
1. There is a jaw-dropping line in Stone indictment folks are missing. It implicates entire conservative media bubble – including Hannity, Tucker, Breitbart, and rest of @FoxNews – as participants/dupes in a fraud directed by people in Stone-Individual 1-Wikileaks conspiracy..
@PJ: I have a little bit of sympathy for Don, Eric, and Ivanka, because of the role model they were brought up with, but they also seem to completely lack empathy,
I think it’s safe to say they’re damaged people, but they repel sympathy by being such awful human beings
131.
Elizabelle
Heh heh. Bloomberg, so it’s behind a paywall. But:
Self-anointed political dirty trickster Roger Stone will have to tread carefully as he prepares to defend against charges of obstructing Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe and lying about his communications with WikiLeaks.
The no-nonsense judge assigned Stone’s case has already demonstrated that she’s got little patience for defendants who misbehave. U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson issued a gag order on Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort and later revoked his bail and threw him in jail.
…. That kind of self-restraint could present a challenge for Stone, who is accustomed to speaking his mind. Shortly after appearing in a Fort Lauderdale, Florida, court Friday, Stone addressed a crowd of reporters, fans and detractors, proclaiming the charges against him were politically motivated and declaring his innocence. He also promised to appear on television later Friday.
Jackson was nominated in 2011 to serve on the federal court in Washington by President Barack Obama. A Baltimore native, born in 1954, she’d been both a federal prosecutor and criminal defense lawyer.
Presiding over the Manafort case since his October 2017 indictment, Jackson has presented herself as tough, fair and keenly aware of the public interest in the case.
Stone’s first appearance before Jackson has not yet been scheduled.
Another strong woman from Baltimore. More six inch heels. These, under a sedate black judge’s robe. And an Obama appointee, too.
ETA: Missed sharing this tidbit:
“This is not middle school,” Jackson told Manafort’s lawyers before ordering him locked up in June for alleged witness tampering. “I can’t take his cellphone.”
132.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@trollhattan: It’s almost as if there’s a vast right-wing conspiracy. If only somebody had warned us about that, then we could have taken action earlier.
“It’s sideways of course, but that’s our old pal Gym Jordan. He was at a gate at La Guardia this morning. His flight was cancelled, and presumable he was going to try to reroute when the airport shut down for the shut-show, of which he was notably all in favor of.
Eiron is doing excellent work these days, isn’t she?”
135.
plato
And the totus thug’s surrender to Nancy is now complete.
Stolen from twitter:
“what’s your name?”
“donald, nancy,my name is donald”
“your name is reek”
“no, its don–”
“reek”
“but my parents”
“your. name. is reek.”
“do–”
“reek”
“i am reek”
“good boy”
“art of the deal, baby”
“shut up, reek”
“yes ma’am”
142.
hilts
Trending: ‘cave’
Lookups spiked 1,500% on January 25, 2019
Why are people looking up cave?
Cave leapt to the top of our lookups on January 25th, 2019, following the word’s appearance in numerous headlines in reports of the end of the government shutdown.
Donald Trump caved. And now the government is going to re-open.
— (headline) CNN (cnn.com), 25 Jan. 2019
Trump on the shutdown: “We will not cave!” Trump one day later: I’m caving.
— (headline) Vox (vox.com), 25 Jan. 2019
Dems say Trump caved on wall, shutdown was ‘all for nothing’
— (headline) NBC News (nbc.com), 25 Jan. 2019
this is probably someone we’ve never heard of, but it’s also probably Bannon, right?
Jonathan Swan @ jonathanvswan
A former White House official texts me, unsolicited: “Trump looks pathetic…he just ceded his presidency to Nancy Pelosi.”
144.
Duane
@Mai Naem mobile: Hannity started covering the stolen e-mails during the election, buddied up with Trumpov’s thugs, and next thing you know, Trumpov and Hannity are bestest friends. Hannity sounded a little shook on the radio today. Prison wear would be a fitting end for the traitor.
WASHINGTON — The disclosure last week that Hillary Clinton was being treated for pneumonia thrust the health of both of the major parties’ presidential candidates and their running mates to the center of the campaign, and led to the release of more detailed medical histories from the two candidates seeking what is widely regarded as the world’s most demanding job.
Mrs. Clinton, 68, the Democratic presidential nominee, who has had serious medical problems in recent years, released on Wednesday an update of a July 2015 letter from her doctor attesting to her overall good health and ability to serve a full four-year term as president. However, the doctor, Dr. Lisa Bardack of Mt. Kisco, N.Y., noted that Mrs. Clinton had developed two new medical conditions in 2016: a sinus and ear infection in the winter and pneumonia this month.
Dr. Bardack wrote that she had regularly examined Mrs. Clinton this year for routine care and that she had been closely monitoring her pneumonia, which is improving.
But doctors not connected with the candidate’s care say that the letters omit basic information like height and weight, and that a more detailed history of her blood clots and a 2012 concussion should be disclosed.
[…]
(Emphasis added.)
Hmm….
Cheers,
Scott.
151.
plato
LaGuardia proves that decades after Reagan became the biggest union-buster of our lifetimes, the shutdown ended because US air traffic controllers….organized. #TrumpShutdown#TrumpCaved— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) January 25, 2019
Fuck those ‘reagan democrats’.
152.
plato
Donald Trump’s day so far:
– Ends shutdown without wall
– #TrumpCaved is trending
– Nancy Pelosi piles on- Ann Coulter goes berserk
– Trump is losing his base
– Roger Stone arrested
– MUELLER IS COMING
– They’re all going to prison
– It’s still only 6pm
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: He was from my neighborhood and president of my 8th grade class. He was always considered a nice guy. Our class graduation picture is in his first book.
154.
Adam L Silverman
@Yarrow: I imagine it would look something like this:
155.
JR
@joel hanes: Without that time there is no Trumpism. Once the republicans tasted *that* power (remember with us or against us?) they were hooked.
156.
Adam L Silverman
@Another Scott: He doesn’t have to, we know how the Times got that stuff. It came from the partnership they formed with Bannon to push the Clinton Cash garbage.
157.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
I’m beginning to think whatever is going on with McConnell will end up with him leaving the Senate before 2020. Just a hunch, but he definitely gives the impression of somebody being blackmailed into going against his own political instincts.
And if there’s any dirt, Mueller already knows it.
I am beginning to wonder what kind of business Rupert Murdoch is doing with Putin because it truly doesn’t make sense to egg on Trumpov with the Fox&Friends garbage, Tucker,Judge Jeanie etc when it’s obvious its not going to end well. I am talking beyond Wendy Deng being Putin’s gf.
There is a jaw-dropping line in Stone indictment folks are missing. It implicates entire conservative media bubble – including Hannity, Tucker, Breitbart, and rest of @FoxNews – as participants/dupes in a fraud directed by people in Stone-Individual 1-Wikileaks conspiracy..
Who’s missing what now? I’ve been saying the media are in the pay of Russia for ages now. Fox are just the most obvious ones. Of course they are. I still think the wearing of back-of-hand bandaids is a kind of panic signal among these traitorous clowns.
161.
Chris Johnson
@Yarrow: Without McConnell this pile of bozos wouldn’t have got NEARLY as far as they did. Mitch is Putin’s best, best ally and his smarts and determination have taken this treason as far as it could possibly go. They couldn’t have dreamed it would go this well.
Even so, he has limits. And he’s all in on his treason. No, he’s not enjoying this: there’s no exit strategy. It was fun while it was working.
162.
Yarrow
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I don’t know if he’ll leave before 2020 but he’s definitely nervous. Has been since December, 2016. He’s a traitor and he knows he’s in trouble.
@West of the Cascades: I agree that cartoons don’t need to be accurate, but they do need to capture the essence of someone. This cartoon does not in any way capture the essence of Nancy Pelosi, except for the use of the color red.
edit: just looked at your links. he is clearly very talented and typically does capture the essence of people. in that way, he did an amazing job on a lot of them. truly talented. but I came away feeling even more like he did a terrible job on pelosi in this one. when i look at that cartoon, it’s jarring. i may be wrong but it just seems lazy on his part.
Seanly
Yeah. I hope we spend the next 3 weeks getting other departments funded so there are fewer hostages available for Trump to try this bullshit again.
PJ
I don’t hate Chuck, but if we take back the Senate in 2020, we could use a new majority leader.
And I would be very happy if we ever got a President Pelosi. (ETA: Perhaps simultaneous indictments for Trump and Pence? A boy can dream.)
WaterGirl
Have you read The Onion article from today where Chuck is totally shocked that he didn’t fold? It’s pretty funny, but not as funny as the one two down from it where Jared assures us he would only have sold state secrets for a good amount of coin.
WaterGirl
I wonder why the cartoonist made Nancy look so chunky when she is so slim and always looks so elegant?
Yarrow
But he didn’t and the Dems didn’t fold. Credit to all of them.
Nancy SMASH owns Trump. She is awesome. Bow down to the Queen!
dmsilev
It’s almost too bad that she hasn’t yet agreed on a rescheduled date for the SotU. Tuesday would be just about right; Trump gets to spend a weekend listening to the whole world laugh at how she beat him silly, then he has to get up and speak while she stands behind him holding a large hammer. With a week or two to convince himself that he really won, biggly, it wouldn’t have the same impact.
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: I’m pretty sure they are going to have to pass another much longer CR (at the very least) before Donnie gets an invite again.
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: Also, isn’t the hair wrong? Isn’t Nancy’s hair a bit longer these days?
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@WaterGirl: I suspect he just changed the hair color on a previously-drawn cartoon of Hillary. All us bitches look alike, right?
MisterForkbeard
Okay, this is a longshot but how about this: “You’re wrong.” :)
MisterForkbeard
@Yarrow: This. It’s a team effort, even if we couldn’t have done it w/o Nancy the entire Dem caucus contributed. As did we and everyone else who was vocally pissed off about it.
The Dangerman
Poor bird.
Amir Khalid
This has to be the Nancy Pelosi song right now.
SiubhanDuinne
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice:
Was getting ready to comment exactly that!
JoyceH
I JUST saw video of Pelosi signing the House bill. She did the thing where she signed with cameras rolling, a bunch of people ranged behind her, using a bunch of pens and then handing out the pens to various people. I’ve never see a Speaker do that. Is that usual or is she going “coequal branch, bitches!” ?
Yarrow
@SiubhanDuinne: Me three. Also, have you talked to efg about a possible tablet or laptop? We miss him!
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: Yeah, I get why they bloated Trump, but she is all wrong, except for the red!
WaterGirl
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: You know, even before you said that I actually thought that did look a lot more like Hillary than Nancy Smash. Maybe that is what happened. Parts is parts, am I right?
Cacti
Remember when the House bro caucus didn’t want her to be Speaker?
Morons.
Gretchen
@JoyceH: I hope so.
debbie
@WaterGirl:
My guess is so that her name would fit across the back.
WaterGirl
@Amir Khalid: I knew what it was gonna be before I clicked. :-)
Baud
I ❤️ Pelosi, but the constant need to gratuitously slam Schumer is annoying.
WaterGirl
@JoyceH: I have never seen that from anyone but the president, but that’s not definitive.
Gretchen
@WaterGirl: yes! Cartoonist thinks all older women are chunky and unattractive, so is spared looking at actual woman and drawing a likeness.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
You’re dead right about Schumer. I still don’t understand why Durbin didn’t become the Democratic leader. He’d be ten times the leader Schumer is.
Cacti
My favorite moment of the past few weeks:
Trump: “I will be holding the SOTU in the House Chamber as planned! What are you gonna do about it?”
Pelosi: “Why don’t you sit down and shaddup.”
Trump: “Yes ma’am.”
Villago Delenda Est
The MAGAts are writhing in pain right now.
GOOD.
WaterGirl
@debbie: Could have gone with “Nancy”. :-) Or left her in a dress and gone vertical instead of horizontal. Either way, it takes away from the effectiveness of the cartoon. Nancy Pelosi is all class and Trump has none.
FelonyGovt
@Cacti: Or as someone put it, Nancy turned SOTU into STFU.
khead
So, NATCA went on strike. Air traffic slowed for only one morning and – instead of a mass firing – a deal was done by the afternoon.
I believe the phrase I used yesterday was “I’m optimistic”.
Elizabelle
@WaterGirl: That’s Hillary’s body. And style of dress. On Pelosi. How interesting.
ETA: Maybe it’s a recycled cartoon for when Hillary defeated Trump, massively?
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
@Gretchen:
Hey, now, chunky and unattractive are two whole other things from each other. My wife is more than chunky. She’s, well, fat. And she’s gorgeous. And when she’s older, she’s going to be older, fat and gorgeous.
Luthe
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Seniority. Which is good for institutional memory, but not always so great when picking effective leaders unless they know how to use it (i.e. Nancy SMASH!)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): I don’t know what the levers of power are in either leader’s job. the CW, and for as long as I’ve been following politics, is that most Senators take themselves extremely seriously and hold themselves in very high regard. Add to that someone like Manchin who’s very dumb and sees himself as a statesman, you’re not just herding cats, you’re herding cats on coke. (edited, again, autocorrectopalooza)
@Cacti: and she still hasn’t scheduled the SOTU. President Deals let her know how much that moment of attention means to him, so she’s holding it back. Hopefully it will work on the upcoming “fiscal cliff”
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
@Luthe:
Yeah, but Durbin came to the Senate two years before Schumer did, so that can’t be it.
Elizabelle
Well you can tell I read the thread from the bottom up, once I’ve responded to someone.
Yes, Collette and Subaru. You were on it.
debbie
I’m flashing back to the furor over the ugly courtroom sketch of Tom Brady.
Elizabelle
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Use the SOTU (STFU Donald) as a carrot. No SOTU for you, pal, until we have our funding in place for the entire year. No more shutdowns.
And when does the debt ceiling drama come up?
Felanius Kootea
Six inch heels, she stomped on the clown like nobody’s business
Goddamn, she murdered everybody and I was her witness
…
Stars in her eyes
She fights for the power, keeping time
…
She too smart to crave material things
She pushing herself day and night
zhena gogolia
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice:
Yes, it looks to me like the way they used to depict Hillary.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
STOP SAYING I LOST I WON I WON I WON
“Shutdown money”. I can usually sort of follow him, the way you can often tell what a toddler is trying to say. I’m a little lost on Shutdown money.
stinger
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: That was my thought, too. I had to re-read the label because I thought it was Hilary.
EriktheRed
Wouldn’t dream of even trying, John. Schumer’s useless. Not looking forward to seeing him as majority leader if Dems retake the Senate next year.
Plato
Kinda ironic that thug raygun ‘made his bones’ on air traffic controllers, who now broke the bones of a raygun political thug spawn.
chris
@khead: Add the glorious polls–an 8 point drop in a week!– and the MSM, which Trump says he never watches, running stories of people trying to cope and failing. Not to mention pictures on twitter of gummint workers at food banks
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The idiot thinks lots of government money was saved by not paying for employees and stuff, and that all of that got squirreled away into some magic savings fund that is now available for him to
stealspend on WALL.chopper
@PJ:
who’s the pelosi of the democratic senate caucus? cause i want that.
Elizabelle
@chopper: Yeah. The times call for that person. Take no prisoners.
chopper
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
“shutdown money” i can’t even.
Amir Khalid
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Apparently, he thinks the shutdown saved money for the US Government. As though civil servants’ back wages didn’t have to be paid, as though leaving citizens’ urgent needs unserved was painless and cost-free, as though leaving essential government work undone was harmless.
JR
@Gretchen: Wait, what?
I don’t think the cartoon is all that misrepresentative of Pelosi, as caricatures go.
But even if you disagree, it’s a long way from here to there…
chris
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Is that the money that won’t be paid to the 1,000,000+ contractors who also didn’t have work? I was wondering about that.
ETA: Also wondering how much it will cost to get the machine back up to speed. It will cost more than back pay for sure.
Miss Bianca
@Elizabelle: that’s what I was wondering.
Jackie
Has Trump signed the bill yet? I’d think he wants to go golfing ASAP.
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: You are more polite than I am. My thought was WTF is shutdown money?
I think maybe he thinks they get to keep the money they should have been paying people during the shutdown. Un-fucking-believable.
smedley the uncertain
@Baud: Agreed!
zhena gogolia
@JR:
It’s completely the wrong body type, is all.
khead
@khead:
Also, for years I’ve listened to local radio (mostly sports but some politics) in the Balt-DC (and now Philly) corridor and there are all sorts of garbage ads (cars for kids, testosterone, divorce lawyers, ambulance chasers, and now casinos, etc.). It always struck me as a bit odd that one of the advertisers – across multiple shows – is NATCA. The air traffic controller folks. Nice 30 second spots that simply highlight how airports need the controllers and you should support them, etc. Just wondering if this is a local DC-Balt thing.
chopper
@Baud:
it is easier for her, she has the power and can use it. that being said, the more he sticks with her on these issues the better it is for the dems on the hill.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Jackie:
What’s the weather like in VA? Will he red-eye AF1 down to Mar-A-Loco?
smedley the uncertain
@JoyceH: But, why not?
chopper
i was expecting more “now go get yer fuckin’ shine box” jokes today TBH
Baud
@chopper: Plus, half her caucus isn’t running for president!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
You know who’s got the pulse of the American people? You know who knows the real score? The fucking host of fucking Love Connection, that’s fucking who.
You’ve just been wooleried, libs. Deal with it.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I don’t think Chuck has been a great leader in the past, but I’ll bet he is learning a lot from Nancy!
zhena gogolia
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
It’s hard to fold something that doughy.
Gelfling 545
@Baud: I find it so as well. It’s all part of the “narrative”.
Lapassionara
@Jackie: I’m wondering that too. He could easily say no again.
Adam L Silverman
@WaterGirl: You ever try to fit all of Pelosi on the back of a size 1 jacket in a cartoon?
Adam L Silverman
zhena gogolia
@Adam L Silverman:
Nice.
Omnes Omnibus
I remember when everyone talked about how useless Reid was.
WaterGirl
@Adam L Silverman: Oh, come on, she’s at least a 2! Besides, they could have gone vertical with the name. Or, if the cartoon figure had remotely the same build as Nancy, you wouldn’t have needed a name.
I am on Team “this person already had a drawing of Hillary and didn’t think twice about how it was all wrong”. Note to cartoonist: women are not interchangeable.
Adam L Silverman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: He somehow thinks that whatever hasn’t been spent on the closed portions of the government for the past month is somehow now available as discretionary funding that he can spend as he sees fit.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: I don’t know when Tm Russert died, but back then I loved Tim Russert and watched all the Sunday shows. I’m pretty sure it was getting on board with Barack Obama in 2007 that turned me from one of those annoying “both sides do it” and “I love the NYT” people. Thank god!
edit: The google tells me that Tim Russert died on my birthday in 2008, so I’d say my guess on timing was pretty good. Haven’t watched another Sunday show since 2008.
edit: way back when, I thought both Reid and Nancy Pelosi were both worthless. I completely bought all the conventional wisdom in the olden days.
Ken
@JoyceH: Versus the Trump signings, where he borrows pens from the crowd and doesn’t return them?
(Just kidding. I think.)
Jackie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: LOL! I’m sure he’s ready to get down to Mar-A-Laco – he hasn’t been there since last year?
Aleta
@Amir Khalid: Apparently, he thinks the shutdown saved money for
the US Government.himself to use in whatever way he wants.debbie
@Gretchen:
Please link to an editorial cartoon of a well-known woman (not a stripper) that you find well drawn and attractive.
This has to be one of the most ridiculous conversations I’ve seen here!
Johnnybuck
@Baud: yep
plato
I can kick your ass as well as your mouth at the same time.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
Because he wasn’t flashy like Newt. //
Adam L Silverman
@chopper: Klobuchar.
debbie
@plato:
Wow, he tweeted that tomorrow?
PJ
@Adam L Silverman: @Aleta: Just as he seemed to think, going by his comments to Chris Christie, that money raised for his campaign or his transition was HIS money.
Adam L Silverman
@chris: Depending on how the contracts were written, the companies get paid, not only that they get paid as soon as the shutdown started. There is no requirement on the companies to pay the furloughed contractors though.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@WaterGirl: Russert was by most accounts a good guy in real life. Verbally dope-slapped David Gregory for treating a waitress rudely, protected Keith Olbermann back in the ‘special comment’ (wasn’t it?) days. But I’ve never seen anybody this side of John McCain buy so completely into his own media legend, and Bill Clinton’s sex life broke him.
plato
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: And despite Durbin being Reid’s second for years, Reid met with them both and explained why he was hand picking Schumer to succeed him. Though in Reid’s defense, he thought Schumer would be taking over as majority leader, not minority leader.
WaterGirl
@debbie: Hey!
Adam L Silverman
@WaterGirl: I was teasing. I have no idea why the cartoonist did this.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
“SARAH! Make Ann Coulter stop mean-tweeting me. Tweet something nice about me”
Elizabelle
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Professional liar.
They know they’re bleeding.
Miss Bianca
I am still not above needling my Very Concerned Friends about their concern over Pelosi’s age and general girl cooties. Cuz yeah, I think they deserve it and yeah, I know that that’s petty.
chris
@debbie:
Thank you!
plato
Whatever happened to that let’s build the wall for the don con on gofundme?
joel hanes
I thought both Reid and Nancy Pelosi were both worthless.
Very difficult to hold the line when the voters do not have your back.
In the aftermath of 9/11, virtually all pundits and about nine tenths of the electorate went insane, and eagerly bought into the Republican security/vengeance/hard-ass/proto-fascist narrative. Democrats who stood up against that wave were excoriated by their own voters.
It was a bad time in America. Worse, in many important ways, than Trumpism.
Adam L Silverman
@PJ: It’s all his money. Your money, my money, the public’s money. It’s really all his money.
chris
@Adam L Silverman: Thanks, that’s what I thought. Krugman said the number was 1.2 million. Funny how rarely if at all they were mentioned on the news.
debbie
I don’t understand why the tweets plato has posted are dated tomorrow.
smedley the uncertain
@debbie: yep
clay
@Adam L Silverman: This is how I picture it
plato
Nancy is being mean.
kdbart
@Baud: Unfortunately, there’s no way to make 47 larger than 53
Ken
@Adam L Silverman: Like the Trump Foundation piggy bank.
MisterForkbeard
@plato: The guy who ran it changed how the money was going to be used (from giving to the Gov to a personal account of his, that he would direct towards the Wall), so GoFundMe made him refund all the money.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: So basically “We’re going to declare a fake national emergency and fuck over people who actually had disasters and take money from their funding.” Nice, that will go over well.
Amazing that they’re still trying to pretend Trump won the exchange. I think they’re trying to establish a media line their propaganda organs can use, but it’s not really working so far.
debbie
@MisterForkbeard:
Of course it went to his personal account! That is exactly who these people are!
plato
So much winning.
Adam L Silverman
plato
@MisterForkbeard: Of course he did. You would think the rw rubes woulda learned a lesson but nah.
trollhattan
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
“The only outstanding question is whether the Democrats want something or nothing”
Obvious answer is yes, duh.
West of the Cascades
@WaterGirl: Maybe google the cartoonist and look at other drawings of Pelosi and others he’s done, and reconsider your position? New York Daily News cartoonist Bill Bramhall. I think you’ll find that he doesn’t pay a lot of attention to realism, and in other cartoons has portrayed Pelosi’s figure more accurately. Accuracy isn’t his point. Nor need it be. E.g. frame 15/24 at https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/nydn-bramhall-cartoons-for-december-2018-20181210-photogallery.html or 8/23 at https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/nydn-bramhall-cartoons-for-january-2019-20190108-photogallery.html
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@chris: Also while still on the job and facing shutdown, people had to stop what they were doing and try to arrange for an orderly shutdown. More days wasted.
I really want to get a Democratic Senate and never again hear about “shutdowns” and “continuing resolutions”. I want to see our theoretical budget process in actual practice again. Is that too much to ask for?
Adam L Silverman
@Ken: Yep.
Adam L Silverman
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: And as soon as they get back to work on Monday they will begin preparing for the next one. It takes approximately two weeks to do so.
PJ
@debbie: Last week or so, Adam posted a link to an article by Rick Perlstein about how the modern GOP is one big grift, and while the ultimate goal is to loot the whole country and get something from everybody’s pockets, the biggest marks are the non-millionaires who support them through donations.
Adam L Silverman
It will soon be Sean Hannitty’s time in the barrel.
Adam L Silverman
@PJ: Here you go!
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-long-con
Ken
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
No. In my more optimistic moods, I think that the national Republican party is doing to itself what the California Republicans did a decade or too ago, and hope for much the same outcome.
debbie
@West of the Cascades:
Most if not all editorial cartoonists pay little attention to realism. That is not the point of editorial cartooning.
Doug R
@JR: Yeah, as far as cartoons go, the way Pelosi is drawn fits with the universe of the way trump is drawn. Also I think the larger butt implies some swagger. Might have worked slightly better if he drew Pelosi walking towards us putting on the sunglasses, but I think it was too hard for him to draw.
Overall, I agree with the cartoonist’s sentiment.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
The gossip/reporting has been that Jared encouraged the old Beast to hang on, the Dems were about to cave!
Jared’s fingerprints are now on the Comey firing and the shutdown. And the dumb fuck will probably continue to turn to him, because he’s Mr Ivanka, the man trump wants to be in so many ways.
Mai Naem mobile
@Adam L Silverman: Sean Hannity’s time in the barrel and its heading over the Iguazu Falls? I am beginning to wonder what kind of business Rupert Murdoch is doing with Putin because it truly doesn’t make sense to egg on Trumpov with the Fox&Friends garbage, Tucker,Judge Jeanie etc when it’s obvious its not going to end well. I am talking beyond Wendy Deng being Putin’s gf.
trollhattan
@Adam L Silverman:
If Hannity gets swept up in this torrent of felonious consequences then I won’t be happy, I’ll be deliriously happy.
PJ
@Adam L Silverman: It’s not surprising, given what we know about Trump and the people he surrounds himself with (or who thought they could use him to advance their own goals), but every person who has been indicted so far, or looks like they will be indicted, is some variety of asshole, with no obvious redeeming qualities.
I say this because I have known Republicans (Trump supporters, even) who have good qualities.
I have a little bit of sympathy for Don, Eric, and Ivanka, because of the role model they were brought up with, but they also seem to completely lack empathy, and they will hopefully get their deserts as well.
sm*t cl*de
@WaterGirl:
That’s been a recurring phrase from Trump over the last five weeks. Sometimes it has been clear from the context that yes, indeed, he means the money not paid to furloughed or unpaid-working staff. He remains convinced, in the face of repeated explanation, that their back wages are now up for grabs — because welching on debts has always been his MO.
Mai Naem mobile
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I am wondering if Jared suffers from the same psychological issues as Trumpov and that’s what attracted Ivanka to him. She married her daddy. That’s some fucked up female version Oedipus kind of stuff.
Adam L Silverman
@Mai Naem mobile: @trollhattan: @PJ: Give this thread by Kurt Eichenwald a read:
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I think it’s safe to say they’re damaged people, but they repel sympathy by being such awful human beings
Elizabelle
Heh heh. Bloomberg, so it’s behind a paywall. But:
Roger Stone Draws the Judge Who Threw Paul Manafort in Jail
Another strong woman from Baltimore. More six inch heels. These, under a sedate black judge’s robe. And an Obama appointee, too.
ETA: Missed sharing this tidbit:
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@trollhattan: It’s almost as if there’s a vast right-wing conspiracy. If only somebody had warned us about that, then we could have taken action earlier.
eddie blake
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice:
it’s a pastiche on lil nancy
you guys need to read more comic books.
Jay
From Mock, Paper, Scissors,
“It’s sideways of course, but that’s our old pal Gym Jordan. He was at a gate at La Guardia this morning. His flight was cancelled, and presumable he was going to try to reroute when the airport shut down for the shut-show, of which he was notably all in favor of.
Eiron is doing excellent work these days, isn’t she?”
plato
And the totus thug’s surrender to Nancy is now complete.
Game over, motherfucker.
chopper
@plato:
it’s gonna end up being waaaay more than that.
chopper
@plato:
best time to kick em is when they’re down, i say.
PJ
@Adam L Silverman: Yep.
Mohagan
@WaterGirl: I think they got so used to drawing HRC that that’s all they can draw when it comes to women ?
Mohagan
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: Just what I thought too.
Aaron
Stolen from twitter:
“what’s your name?”
“donald, nancy,my name is donald”
“your name is reek”
“no, its don–”
“reek”
“but my parents”
“your. name. is reek.”
“do–”
“reek”
“i am reek”
“good boy”
“art of the deal, baby”
“shut up, reek”
“yes ma’am”
hilts
Trending: ‘cave’
Lookups spiked 1,500% on January 25, 2019
Why are people looking up cave?
Cave leapt to the top of our lookups on January 25th, 2019, following the word’s appearance in numerous headlines in reports of the end of the government shutdown.
Donald Trump caved. And now the government is going to re-open.
— (headline) CNN (cnn.com), 25 Jan. 2019
Trump on the shutdown: “We will not cave!” Trump one day later: I’m caving.
— (headline) Vox (vox.com), 25 Jan. 2019
Dems say Trump caved on wall, shutdown was ‘all for nothing’
— (headline) NBC News (nbc.com), 25 Jan. 2019
h/t https://www.merriam-webster.com/news-trend-watch/media-trump-caved-on-shutdown-20190125
Jim, Foolish Literalist
this is probably someone we’ve never heard of, but it’s also probably Bannon, right?
Duane
@Mai Naem mobile: Hannity started covering the stolen e-mails during the election, buddied up with Trumpov’s thugs, and next thing you know, Trumpov and Hannity are bestest friends. Hannity sounded a little shook on the radio today. Prison wear would be a fitting end for the traitor.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: I guess Trump doesn’t know(among many, many things) that it actually costs money to shutdown and re-open the Government.
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: She’s my pick as well. I’d love to see her heading up the Senate.
plato
Adam L Silverman
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Apparently not.
Jackie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: EEEWWWW!? (Altho you’re probably right?)
Another Scott
@Adam L Silverman: I don’t see Kurt mentioning FTFNYT.
FTFNYT from August 19, 2016:
(Emphasis added.)
Hmm….
Cheers,
Scott.
plato
Fuck those ‘reagan democrats’.
plato
Gelfling 545
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: He was from my neighborhood and president of my 8th grade class. He was always considered a nice guy. Our class graduation picture is in his first book.
Adam L Silverman
@Yarrow: I imagine it would look something like this:
JR
@joel hanes: Without that time there is no Trumpism. Once the republicans tasted *that* power (remember with us or against us?) they were hooked.
Adam L Silverman
@Another Scott: He doesn’t have to, we know how the Times got that stuff. It came from the partnership they formed with Bannon to push the Clinton Cash garbage.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
I’m beginning to think whatever is going on with McConnell will end up with him leaving the Senate before 2020. Just a hunch, but he definitely gives the impression of somebody being blackmailed into going against his own political instincts.
And if there’s any dirt, Mueller already knows it.
Yarrow
@Mai Naem mobile:
Let us also remember that Rupert Murdoch was seen entering McConnell’s office on November 8, just before the Fox News Twitter account stopped posting. It hasn’t posted anything since. Something is up there.
Another Scott
Twit[t]er:
Should be interesting!
Cheers,
Scott.
Chris Johnson
@Adam L Silverman:
Who’s missing what now? I’ve been saying the media are in the pay of Russia for ages now. Fox are just the most obvious ones. Of course they are. I still think the wearing of back-of-hand bandaids is a kind of panic signal among these traitorous clowns.
Chris Johnson
@Yarrow: Without McConnell this pile of bozos wouldn’t have got NEARLY as far as they did. Mitch is Putin’s best, best ally and his smarts and determination have taken this treason as far as it could possibly go. They couldn’t have dreamed it would go this well.
Even so, he has limits. And he’s all in on his treason. No, he’s not enjoying this: there’s no exit strategy. It was fun while it was working.
Yarrow
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I don’t know if he’ll leave before 2020 but he’s definitely nervous. Has been since December, 2016. He’s a traitor and he knows he’s in trouble.
Adam L Silverman
@Chris Johnson: He means the news media.
WaterGirl
@West of the Cascades: I agree that cartoons don’t need to be accurate, but they do need to capture the essence of someone. This cartoon does not in any way capture the essence of Nancy Pelosi, except for the use of the color red.
edit: just looked at your links. he is clearly very talented and typically does capture the essence of people. in that way, he did an amazing job on a lot of them. truly talented. but I came away feeling even more like he did a terrible job on pelosi in this one. when i look at that cartoon, it’s jarring. i may be wrong but it just seems lazy on his part.
rikyrah
You ain’t never lied, Cole
leeleeFL
@WaterGirl: Reminded me of cartoons of Hillary. Wonder if the artist was conflating?