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Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

It’s easier to kill a dangerous animal than a man who just happens to have different thoughts/values than one’s own.

When we show up, we win.

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Let there be snark.

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Ted Lieu endorses Harris for president

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Is it unusual for a prominent elected official to endorse a candidate this early? I honestly don’t know — two years of the toxic Trump shit-show may have damaged my memory.

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  1. 1.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Too bad they’re from the same state. We could do a lot worse than a Harris-Lieu ticket.

  2. 2.

    pacem appellant

    My household table-talk is already getting interesting. Last election, I was for Clinton, while the spousal unit was for Sanders. This cycle, they’ve jumped on the Warren bandwagon, and was I tepidly for Gillibrand until Harris threw her hat into the ring. Now I’m all in for Harris. I read rumors that maybe Clinton is considering another go at it, but I don’t think that’s a good idea. She won’t have the groundswell support she had in 2016. It’s tough out there for an ex-Presidential candidate, even though she’s great, nobody likes backing a loser.

  3. 3.

    JillR

    I think Hillary had a number of endorsements ready to roll out, and rolled them out over time, clearly preplanned. I think it’s a sign of good preparation..

  4. 4.

    Gravenstone

    Damn people let’s give things some time to breathe here, shall we? Yeah, seems premature although they might be looking to temper some of the attacks coming from our more progressive than though “brethren”.

  7. 7.

    Betty Cracker

    @pacem appellant: I was in a mixed-primary household last year too — I voted for Clinton, and my husband voted for Sanders. I’m most impressed with Warren’s ideas so far, but that’s largely due to her getting an early start and making some big policy proposals. I’m keeping an open mind. As for Clinton, she’s not going to run again. The rumors are all started by former aides. When asked directly fairly recently, she said she’s not ever running again, and I believe her.

  8. 8.

    Frankensteinbeck

    I will vote for whoever the fuck the black women agree on. The only times they haven’t saved my ass is when my demographic are such screaming assholes we got in the way. I would vote to take the vote away from white men at this point. I’m confident you won’t treat us as shittily as we treated you.

    Signed,
    Somewhat Despairing Over His Own Tribe

  9. 9.

    AThornton

    Short answer: no

    Longer answer: Candidates try to have a series of Big Name endorsements dribbling out to keep their name in the news cycle

  10. 10.

    jacy

    I really like Kamala Harris. She just has that vibe. I will of course support whoever is the eventual candidate, but she’s got my early support. I just hope we can dispense with all the idiots (of which at this point I count Biden and Sanders and Bloomberg and the Starbucks buffoon) before they take up too much space in anybody’s consciousness.

    On a personal note — I want to thank everyone so much for their support and kindess. The kindness especially is invaluable. I just don’t know what to say. And to everyone who has bought art, it’s all in the pipeline (whew!) and will be shipped within the next three days, at which point everyone will get an individual email. THANKS! Now I just want to sit around a make art, but unfortunately the world doesn’t work that way.

    And my good news of the day — I officially accepted Nick’s seat at the magnet school, and he’s scheduled for orientation and picking out his classes on the 23rd. The custody paperwork I filed ensures that he can finish registration and orientation, so I figure that will weigh in our favor should it eventually go to trial. One step at a time……

  13. 13.

    Amir Khalid

    @pacem appellant:
    Hillary has said, again and again, that she is done running for office. I know those rumours about her persist, but neither she nor anyone close to her has even hinted otherwise.

  14. 14.

    kindness

    Please FSM, please convince Bernie not to run again. PLEASE!!!!!

    It isn’t so much that I don’t like Bernie (I don’t really), I like his ideas. I just wish he didn’t use the magic asterix to make everything add up. He does this every single time (waves hands as if it solves the dilema of 2 columns of numbers that don’t match)

  15. 15.

    Mart

    How could any liberal ever vote for a former prosecutor, ever? (JK)

    I could vote for (almost) all of them Katie.

  16. 16.

    AThornton

    Can write California off as meaning two damns during the primary. Harris will walk away with the delegates. Which is kind of nice for the other candidates since they don’t have to waste ad money in the San Francisco. Los Angles, and San Diego media markets.

  17. 17.

    Betty Cracker

    @jacy: I was otherwise occupied last night and missed the post, but I’m glad you’re getting support and kindness! As for the artwork, I LOVE the piece you did of Badger as a pup and will share it with the class eventually. It really did capture his essence.

  21. 21.

    kindness

    @AThornton: The problem with that is California’s primary is now early. It’s on Super Tuesday. California isn’t to be ignored this time around.

  23. 23.

    Fair Economist

    Endorsements shortly after announcements is normal. Announcing so soon is different, but in this cycle Democrats want to be involved and doing something and so the invisible primary is in full swing early, and candidates have to announce or potential supporters will be gone by the time they do.

  24. 24.

    Mandalay

    @Betty Cracker:

    As for Clinton, she’s not going to run again. The rumors are all started by former aides.

    But isn’t that that’s how it’s done?…the “former aides” (also known as “close allies”) float the idea to see if it gets any traction. If it doesn’t Clinton emerges with clean hands, and without humiliation.

    Now if the “former aides” floated the idea without her knowledge (which is an absurd notion), and she truly has no intention of running, why didn’t she come out and squash the false rumors immediately? She is doing the Democratic Party no favors by lurking in the wings being coy.

    Anyway, the bottom line is that you can’t be half pregnant but you can be half running.

  25. 25.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    @AThornton: If Kamala walks away with a big majority of California’s delegates, that doesn’t mean that California doesn’t matter. It means that California may make Harris hard to beat. That matters a lot.

  26. 26.

    trollhattan

    She embraces the future, not the past, and is the person we need to move America forward.

    Jeez, he really botched that. It’s “We must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!”

  29. 29.

    JPL

    @jacy: I don’t mean to offend you, but I’ve been reading your posts for awhile and your ex is a f..king asshole. As you said one day at a time.

  30. 30.

    MikeN

    @Frankensteinbeck: This guy knows. I’m doing exactly the same thing, and watching the conversation on Twitter as we speak. So far, at least from my very limited view, they’re with Harris.

  31. 31.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Mandalay:

    why didn’t she come out and squash the false rumors immediately? She is doing the Democratic Party no favors by lurking in the wings being coy.

    She isn’t lurking in the wings being coy. She has been straight out over this again and again and again. She’s not running for President ever again. These constant rumors exist solely to satisfy the misogynists hooked on hating her who just neeeeeeed an excuse to bash her another time.

  32. 32.

    AThornton

    kindness:

    I know and it’s totally irrelevant. Harris has won state-wide twice. She has the contacts into the various county and state organizations who aren’t going to buck her. The only thing the other candidates will get is dribs and drabs which they can get doing fly-ins.

  33. 33.

    jacy

    @Betty Cracker:

    I need to finish it up and send you a print. (I wanted to fidget with it a little more and then got distracted — which is now my default.) I have one for John I need to send out too. I will put it on my list for today!

  38. 38.

    jacy

    @JPL:

    Yeah, he is. And I don’t even want to punish him or make him suffer (or even think about him for that matter) but I wish he would quit throwing roadblocks into my path! At least I know in four more years, he ceases to exist for all intents and purposes. :)

  39. 39.

    Betty Cracker

    @Mandalay: This groundswell of rumors has happened at least twice before, and Clinton does squash them. She’ll probably do so again this time, but she’s under no obligation to issue a statement immediately and certainly isn’t damaging the party by being “coy,” as you put it.

  40. 40.

    Fair Economist

    @AThornton: Harris’ California base will have a big money effect too. California provides a lot of the funding for Democrats these days, and Harris will be getting a huge portion of that; quite possibly a majority even in a very crowded field. Gillibrand and Warren also have donor state bases, but they are smaller and I don’t think either has quite the lead Harris seems to have here.

  41. 41.

    Mandalay

    @Amir Khalid:

    I know those rumours about her persist, but neither she nor anyone close to her has even hinted otherwise.

    From yesterday:

    CNN White House correspondent Jeff Zeleny said Sunday on CNN’s “Inside Politics” that Clinton told people “as recently as this week” that she isn’t “closing the doors to the idea of running in 2020.”

    “I’m told by three people that as recently as this week, she was telling people that look, given all this news from the indictments, particularly the Roger Stone indictment, she talked to several people, saying ‘look, I’m not closing the doors to this,’ ” Zeleny said.

    Pretty thin gruel I admit, but Clinton is the dog that is not barking. If she has no plans to run she has an obligation to explicitly make that clear again. Until she does that it is entirely reasonable for folks to think she’s considering running.

  42. 42.

    Fair Economist

    @Betty Cracker: IMO it’s to the party’s benefit for Clinton to be “coy” because the trolls and the Wingnut Wurlitzer will waste resources on her that otherwise will smear the actual candidates.

    I certainly see trolls wasting time on Clinton – is that a bad thing?

  44. 44.

    FlipYrWhig

    @AThornton:

    Can write California off as meaning two damns during the primary. Harris will walk away with the delegates. Which is kind of nice for the other candidates since they don’t have to waste ad money in the San Francisco. Los Angles, and San Diego media markets.

    You think so? I wonder if it’s the opposite: since the presumption will be that Harris comes in first, might there be a hard-fought competition for second?

  45. 45.

    AThornton

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon:

    California has at the moment 495 delegates total with 416 assigned — in some manner yet to be announced. (AFAIK) There are 4,765 total Democratic delegates. So yes California is a nice hunk but it’s nowhere near enough to nominate.

    And reverse it: how much time, money, and effort is Harris going to spend in Massachusetts with its 114 delegates versus Texas with 262?

  47. 47.

    Mandalay

    @Betty Cracker:

    She’ll probably do so again this time, but she’s under no obligation to issue a statement immediately

    Well there we flat out disagree.

    She’s certainly entitled to say nothing if she is considering running – that’s a legitimate campaign tactic – but if she has no intention of running she does have an obligation to say so. That costs her absolutely nothing, and gets the elephant out of the room once and for all.

  49. 49.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Mandalay:
    Clinton does not actually have an obligation to humiliate herself in public every time someone shouts ‘Bark!’

  51. 51.

    trollhattan

    @AThornton:
    Super Tuesday 2020 lineup:
    Tue, Mar 3 Alabama Open
    Tue, Mar 3 California Mixed
    Tue, Mar 3 Massachusetts Mixed
    Tue, Mar 3 North Carolina Mixed
    Tue, Mar 3 Oklahoma Closed
    Tue, Mar 3 Tennessee Open
    Tue, Mar 3 Texas Open
    Tue, Mar 3 Vermont Open
    Tue, Mar 3 Virginia Open

    Not the end of the road but shoves everybody down the road in dramatic fashion. Early missteps will be fatal.

  52. 52.

    Elizabelle

    @Fair Economist: Yeah. That’s what I think is happening too. Hillary is giving them cover.

    And I am dreaming. Of President Nancy Pelosi in 2019. And Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She will be received warmly in virtually all capitols because (a) she is very good at her job and (b) they recognize the winner of the 2016 election, even if our fuck the fucking Electoral College screwed the pooch.

  53. 53.

    AThornton

    FlipYrWhig:

    I didn’t say “ignore California.” The other campaigns will have to decide how much effort to spend coming in second in California worth versus winning in the other Super Tuesday states.

  56. 56.

    Amir Khalid

    @Mandalay:

    if she has no intention of running she does have an obligation to say so. That costs her absolutely nothing, and gets the elephant out of the room once and for all.

    Hillary’s previous denials haven’t convinced those who keep insisting she is going to run. I tend to doubt that a new denial would do it “once and for all”.

  57. 57.

    hells littlest angel

    I’m so happy with the presidential candidates we have to choose from that I’ve moved on to trying to pick a favorite running mate.

  58. 58.

    trollhattan

    @trollhattan:
    Need to addend my comment with the fact it takes 30 days to certify the California election and with our headed towards all-mail we need every one of those days. That’s 100s of thousands or even millions of votes in play most of the month. We went through that with Hillary and St. Wilmer.

  59. 59.

    jacy

    @Plato:

    You can say a lot of bad things about Nicolle Wallace’s Republican history, but on her MSNBC show in the afternoons she won’t show the Possum Queen or Trump. And if she does have to show Trump she breaks in and stops everything to call him a liar. She says the word “liar” about all the Trump stooges more than anyone else I’ve seen.

  62. 62.

    AThornton

    trollhatten:

    Harris has already won California. So the question is should a candidate spend a lot of time to come in second in California or use that time, money, and effort to win in Alabama, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia?

    I removed Massachusetts because the same logic applies re: Warren and Vermont re: Sanders — if he gets in.

  63. 63.

    jl

    @Baud: Wow, I agree with Baud 2020!
    Some of the early horse race, purported analysis, pieces that have come out on a number of Democratic candidates have clearly been planted by political operatives, ex-campaign staff, and pundits either getting money or excess inspiration from some part or other the ideological and money power spectrum. Many of these pieces are written by people with very ulterior motives. They all need to be viewed skeptically, whether about some politician you love or another that you hate.

    This early it’s all BS. Hillary Clinton, and anyone else, doesn’t have an obligation to say something every time one of these BS pieces and rumors hit the corporate news cycle. Otherwise, various operators will start publishing garbage just to get politicians to respond, as a kind of harassment. .

  66. 66.

    jl

    @Baud: I wrote a comment that I agreed with Baud 2020! And WP ate it up and threw it away.
    So, the conspiracy to quash the Baud 2020! groundswell has started.

  67. 67.

    Plato

    Pelosi on the CBO report: "The President's shutdown inflicted needless pain … and stole billions of dollars from the economy. Workers' financial security, families' well-being and America's economic strength all were senselessly sacrificed because of Pres. Trump's callousness."

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 28, 2019

    She is making the thug own the trumpshutdown temper tantrum unlike the effing media.

  69. 69.

    AThornton

    Fair Economist:

    With this front-loaded primary, the DLC and Clinton backing, plus the Hollywood money plus the California delegates gives Harris a nice advantage going in. So as of 1/28/19 Harris has to be considered the Front Runner.

    But I’ll note the GOP front-loaded their 2016 primary for JEB! to waltz through and that didn’t work out so good.

  71. 71.

    Baud

    @jl:

    I recall BJ went through a horribly excruciating site rebuild right smack in the middle of Baud! 2020! What are they chances that would happen again “randomly”?

  72. 72.

    The Moar You Know

    Neither MSNBC nor CNN are taking the White House press briefing.

    @Plato: Years overdue, and the only thing that Trump cares about. He will be livid, assuming its because he has the stink of loser all over him. For once, he’s right. He does.

  75. 75.

    Spider-Dan

    But Sheezacop!

    My top three are Harris, Gillibrand, (big gap) and Booker, in that order. (Warren and Brown are non-starters because of who would choose their replacement … and don’t tell me that the state that elected Scott Brown and Charlie Baker can’t elect another R.)

  76. 76.

    Johnnybuck

    @Mandalay: She doesn’t have an obligation to do jack shit about unsubstantiated rumors, the sole purpose of is to get her to deny it, and or to troll her mercilessly until she does.

    Guess she just can’t win with some people…

  78. 78.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @AThornton:
    Jeb0w0 was a truly, gobsmackingly bad candidate, though. That’s aside from being unable to read the room, that Republican voters wanted white supremacy and they wanted it served bloody. There’s only so much you can lean on a scale.

  79. 79.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Harris getting elected would definitely put the There, there in Oakland, so take that Gertrude Stein.

  84. 84.

    The Moar You Know

    Interesting new commentors/commentors who I haven’t seen for two years on this thread. I can assume we’ll be seeing a lot more of this, yes?

  85. 85.

    trollhattan

    @AThornton:
    Harris may be the de facto #1 but thirteen months is a looooong time for “stuff to happen.”

    If she’s still strong late this year then ceding the state to her will seem like the right choice. Presuming no Wilmer.

  86. 86.

    Mary G

    @Plato: Nancy SMASH is so smart. Her communications team is top shelf and their use of social media to go around the Villagers who would ignore her must have them gnashing their teeth and calling her an uppity bitch while they golf with Republicans. They are having to get up off their asses and write articles like these about her, cutting into cocktail time.

  87. 87.

    guachi

    If we have a 70+ year-old white guy run for the Democrats, can it be Jimmy Carter?

    Also, my almost-brush with Kamala Harris. At the Women’s March in January 2017 I was standing behind the main stage along the rail. Harris was walking back from speaking. I yelled “my Senator and the next President of the United States!!! Can I get a picture?). She looked in my direction, laughed, waved, but kept walking. :(

    So close!

    The guy next to me almost got Alicia Keys to give him a hug. She took two steps towards us but her bodyguards kept her moving.

  90. 90.

    pacem

    @Betty Cracker: Glad that we can put that Clinton rumor to bed. Am I a terrible person for thinking that Warren’s native American ancestry fiasco is going to be a liability in 2020? I think the attacks are fatuous, but then why do I feel that it’s an easy wedge to exploit?

  91. 91.

    NotMax

    two years of the toxic Trump shit-show may have damaged my memory.

    Why not? It’s damaged everything else.

    ;)

  92. 92.

    pacem appellant

    @Betty Cracker: Glad that we can put that Clinton rumor to bed. Am I a terrible person for thinking that Warren’s native American ancestry fiasco is going to be a liability in 2020? I think the attacks are fatuous, but then why do I feel that it’s an easy wedge to exploit?

  93. 93.

    dr. bloor

    Just out of curiosity, which potential candidate(s)’ trial balloon are persisting Hillary rumors most likely to suck the air out of?

  95. 95.

    Fair Economist

    @dr. bloor:

    Just out of curiosity, which potential candidate(s)’ trial balloon are persisting Hillary rumors most likely to suck the air out of?

    Whoever is currently announcing.

  96. 96.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    @AThornton:

    …the DLC and Clinton backing, plus the Hollywood money plus the California delegates gives Harris a nice advantage…

    The Clintons are backing Kamala? The DLC still exists? WTF I’m really confused now. Unless you’re perpetually stuck in the politics of the 90s, your comment makes zero sense.

  97. 97.

    rikyrah

    @trollhattan:

    Super Tuesday 2020 lineup:
    Tue, Mar 3 Alabama Open
    Tue, Mar 3 California Mixed
    Tue, Mar 3 Massachusetts Mixed
    Tue, Mar 3 North Carolina Mixed
    Tue, Mar 3 Oklahoma Closed
    Tue, Mar 3 Tennessee Open
    Tue, Mar 3 Texas Open
    Tue, Mar 3 Vermont Open
    Tue, Mar 3 Virginia Open

    Outside of California and Texas, we have the Southern States of Virginia, Alabama and North Carolina, with large Black populations.

    I am of the belief that she has to come in 1st or 2nd in two of the first three contests. ..that will convert Black hesitancy about her, as Obama’s win in Iowa did in 2008.

  98. 98.

    Plato

    Sarah Sanders won't answer why the president employed immigrants not here legally at his businesses & why he didn't do more to stop it, given his rhetoric that immigrants not here legally take American jobs and should not be here.

    — Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) January 28, 2019

    No idea if this guy is a hack journo but more grilling like this please.

  99. 99.

    Luthe

    @SiubhanDuinne: If we can’t have Lieu for VP because of where he was born, I’ll be happy to take him as second in line for the Presidency. He’d make a good successor to Nancy SMASH!

  101. 101.

    Dr. Bloor

    @Fair Economist:

    Nah. How much money do you think is holding off on Harris because HRC might take a third bite at the apple?

    The list of potential casualties is shorter than “everyone.”

  102. 102.

    trollhattan

    @Yarrow:

    When’s the kickoff event for the Baud! 2020! campaign?

    You’re soaking in it.

    [Does anyone remember Madge?]

  103. 103.

    Frankensteinbeck

    I am so glad that so many other people here see what an asshole bit of misogyny it is to think Hillary has any obligation to keep denying rumors every time they come up.

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:
    Finding other writers to socialize with has been a giant pain, so thank you! This could really be useful to me!

  106. 106.

    Plato

    #BREAKING: A bipartisan group of senators has introduced legislation that would require special counsel Robert Mueller's final report on the Russia investigation to be turned over to Congress — a step closer to the transparency we need.

    — Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) January 28, 2019

    Didn’t Blumenthal get played on the kavannaugh vote by flaky flake? Never trust a rethug on ‘bipartisanship’.

  107. 107.

    Doug R

    @Amir Khalid:

    Hillary’s previous denials haven’t convinced those who keep insisting she is going to run. I tend to doubt that a new denial would do it “once and for all”.

    Unless she had some big press conference about a big announcement…..and then endorsed Kamala Harris.

  109. 109.

    Chris T.

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Well, OK, but would the “there” be Kaiser Hospital? The site is under construction yet again, though I think the old building on the site is all the way down now and maybe the fences will be removed so that we can put up a plaque. (I’m not sure which building was the maternity back in whatever year it was. Nor why we scrape plaque off our teeth as a memorial… oh, wait, different plaque…)

  110. 110.

    burnspbesq

    @Citizen Alan:

    The self-proclaimed criminal justice reformers who hate Harris REALLY hate her.

    Lieu’s endorsement makes sense. DiFi will live forever, so the only way Lieu can move up is to get Harris out of the way. Expect Swalwell to be next.

  111. 111.

    Matt McIrvin

    @pacem appellant: I think every one of the candidates who has gotten significant attention has a flaw (real or imagined) on that level, which can get some segment of the Democratic coalition riled up against them. With Harris it’s the people who can’t vote for a prosecutor; with Gillibrand it’s the Franken fans; with Beto it’s him being supposedly too cozy with fossil fuel interests; with Bernie… he’s Bernie, and so forth. I’m not sure it’s possible to find a candidate without some angle like that–Obama had them. I’m a bit concerned that the knives have come out so early.

  112. 112.

    Matt McIrvin

    @burnspbesq: I’ve already been talking to people who insist that they and most of their friends will sit out the election if Harris is nominated.

  113. 113.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Luthe:

    @SiubhanDuinne: If we can’t have Lieu for VP because of where he was born, I’ll be happy to take him as second in line for the Presidency. He’d make a good successor to Nancy SMASH!

    Yup, he would. But I’m thinking Cabinet. He’d be a fine AG.

  116. 116.

    Elizabelle

    NY Times breaking news:

    The State of the Union has a new date: After a long back-and-forth, Speaker Nancy Pelosi invited President Trump to deliver the address on Feb 5.
    Monday, January 28, 2019 4:59 PM EST

    On Jan. 23, in the middle of the 35-day government shutdown, Ms. Pelosi told the president she wanted to postpone the address, initially scheduled for Tuesday. When Mr. Trump pressed ahead last week, insisting he wanted to give the speech on Tuesday, Ms. Pelosi disinvited him.

    February 5. It’s before the 3 week grace period is up. That seems too damn early. But I trust Nancy Smash.

  121. 121.

    Brickley Paiste

    I stopped by Harris’ kickoff rally on Sunday.

    I was surprised by the size of the crowd – estimates were 20K – and it was hard to get anywhere close. But a very enthusiastic crowd. Harris isn’t a natural charismatic speaker but she does her homework and she did a good job. She’ll get better at the retail side of politics over time.

    Harris checks all the boxes that democrats need to win the presidency in 2020 and no other candidate even comes close.

    If there were any reason guiding this process, the primary would pretty much be over at this point.

  123. 123.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    our dime store acting attorney general just announced that the Mueller investigation is close to being completed

    as much as you can trust that goon about anything

  127. 127.

    rikyrah

    @Matt McIrvin:

    @burnspbesq: I’ve already been talking to people who insist that they and most of their friends will sit out the election if Harris is nominated

    then they aren’t serious to begin with….anyone who can purse their lips, after watching the GOP for the past 2 years, and can talk about anything OTHER than racing to the voting booth on November 2020, is a clown and isn’t serious about this country.

  128. 128.

    kindness

    @Chris T.: Earthquake building codes changed after Loma Prieta. The new rules were much stricter for hospital buildings but allowed existing structures 25 years to upgrade to the new seismic rules. Buildings built in the 60’s or before can’t really ever attain the new rules, so unless they are re-purposed they have to be knocked down and a new one build that is up to code. Oakland was the last one that needed to be re-built.

  130. 130.

    pacem appellant

    @Brickley Paiste: I’m in for Harris, but she’s got to earn it before she’s knighted. It’s pre-mature to sign the death certificates of all the contenders’ campaigns (Except Sanders’s.)

  131. 131.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @kindness: That’s what they did with the old UCLA Medical Center, the old building is now the medical school and they built a new hospital across the street. I refuse to use it’s official name, since it’s yet another thing named after that actor turned politician*.

    *As I call the airport closest to DC, National and the freeway in the north valley, the 118.

  132. 132.

    trollhattan

    @burnspbesq:
    That’s an interesting take. Lieu will have to contend with Xavier Becerra if it all falls into place. (And I’m far from betting the rent money on anybody.)

  134. 134.

    VeniceRiley

    Already ordered 2 kamala caps, and 3 packs of stickers – which will be on my car. No hiding, no secret groups. If Booker stays out, Super Tuesday’s is kamala’s dream. California and the whole south with no one to stand in her way.

    HER SPEECH YESTERDAY HIT EVERY RIGHT NOTE AND SHE WAS SO PRESIDENTIAL!

    Wilmerites already after her. they’re scared of her. That makes me happy. BTW did you see the video out today of him in Russia having dinner with other couples … all the men shirtless in their tighty whities? Singing This land! *shudder*

  135. 135.

    Martin

    California is going to go all-in on Harris. She’s a good representative of the state for a start, but add in a dash of ‘the only two Presidents to come from CA were Nixon and Reagan’ and we’d like to make some amends here. We get credit for Earl Warren, though.

  136. 136.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    I’m just amazed that it took the RWNJ media et al to start calling Kamala a whore. What took them so long?

  137. 137.

    Martin

    @pacem appellant: Oh, certainly. The idea here is to get enough support behind her to make sure she can staff up well and get fundraising going well. I don’t think anyone wants a coronation, rather, assurances that the white men don’t swoop in and take all the air from the room.

  138. 138.

    Chris T.

    @kindness: Ah, that explains it. I’m very much in favor of hospitals that don’t fall down in earthquakes, so I’ll take this as a good thing!

  139. 139.

    MomSense

    Harris has been on my list of people to watch for POTUS since she was Secretary of State in Cali. I’m all in. I signed up on her website, gave a tiny donation, and offered to volunteer. My kids are all in, too. And the best part is my mom,who got sucked in to the bernie cult, said she thinks he shouldn’t run and she likes Kamala best.

  143. 143.

    MomSense

    @jacy:

    I’m so happy for you. I’m struggling financially right now but if I can chip in a little I will. Your artwork is wonderful. Sending you lots of hugs and happy thoughts.

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    Another Scott

    @Mandalay: The best indication if someone is serious about running:

    Do they have a new book coming out, or one recently released?

    Kamala – check
    Kristen – check
    Hillary – don’t think so…

    YMMV.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  149. 149.

    VeniceRiley

    kamala also picked up the heavily courted Dirdre DeJear naming her Iowa campaign chair today. Town hall tonight. She’s looking to clear the field.

  154. 154.

    Ken

    @Amir Khalid: @trollhattan: Clearly what is needed is a site similar to this, with title “Is Hillary Clinton running again?” The Hillary site would work like that one did – start at “No”, and when needed, change to “Yes” (unlike the referenced site, it might change back to “No” again).

    Think of the convenience of being able to point people to that site whenever they were unsure whether Hillary Clinton was running again.

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    Mai Naem mobile

    I like Harris. We will have to see how she holds up during a long campaign. I personally am excited that a half Indian woman might end up being POTUS. I was hoping for Deval Patrick. I also like John Hickenlooper. I know he’s white bread but I think he can help bring in the Mountain West more easily. Also he has an interesting background. He literally would be the person you would want to have a beer with at his craft brewery. He also pushed for some gun legislation when he was governor of Colorado.

  157. 157.

    burnspbesq

    @MomSense:

    When was Harris SoS? Not before Bowen, and not since, I don’t think. We’ve been lucky with Bowen and Padilla. Both have been excellent.

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