The confusing parts of Lord of the Rings start to make a lot more sense when you realize it's actually just a transcribed #DnD campaign. THREAD:
— Brennan Lee Mulligan (@BrennanLM) January 28, 2019
All due respect to the learned Professor Tolkien, for the great joy he has given us and the myriad tales he inspired, but rereading Lord of the Rings after forty years *does* make it obvious how lightly his original worldbuilding was edited.
Showed this thread to the Spousal Unit, who was a locally renowned DM back in the hex-paper days, and he LOL’d too, so…
1) Starts with a long, low-level adventure of just getting out of The Shire and getting the ring to Rivendell. DM originally prepped a low-level hobbit campaign for their roommates who had never played before.
— Brennan Lee Mulligan (@BrennanLM) January 28, 2019
3) Steve is clearly a touring musician IRL, because Gandalf is constantly dipping out of sessions for extremely weak in-game reasons. Steve also keeps writing original songs for the campaign world, which is why there's a goddamn new elf-song on every other page.
— Brennan Lee Mulligan (@BrennanLM) January 28, 2019
4) Word gets out that a fun campaign is going on. DM agrees to let Rachel play a badass ranger, she's so amped that she immediately writes 40 pages of backstory. DM reads it and thinks "This is honestly more compelling than what I had planned. Is this the campaign now?"
— Brennan Lee Mulligan (@BrennanLM) January 28, 2019
7) Everyone very psyched. Boromir's player Kevin tries to stir up trouble "because that's what his character would do." Fuckin' Kevin.
— Brennan Lee Mulligan (@BrennanLM) January 28, 2019
9) Dungeon is awesome. Great encounters. Pippin rolls a Nat 1 on Stealth. Drums in the Deep. And right before the final Boss Battle… Steve books a gig in another city that's gonna take him out of town indefinitely. Everyone SUPER BUMMED!
— Brennan Lee Mulligan (@BrennanLM) January 28, 2019
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Sister Golden Bear
Since it’s a snark thread…. it’s a rare work where you can actually see the prose calcifying on the page.
Mike J
I remember playing a one shot game at a convention. All the characters meet in the tavern, five players immediately yell that they have to sit with their backs to the wall.
Mo MacArbie
Riding out to meet Faramir and the other survivors of the fall of Osgiliath, it’s clear in the movie that Galdalf only brings Pippen with him because he needs about 25 x.p. to level.
frosty
Over my head as a totally non-gamer (well, Risk) but this is a hoot!
Sab
@frosty: Agreed
Mnemosyne
We had to put all of the cat food away tonight because the oldest one is getting his teeth deep-cleaned under anesthesia tomorrow, and they are NOT HAPPY!
cthulhu
Well, I guess it is not surprising LOTR could play like a DnD adventure since Gary Gygax got much of his inspiration from Tolkien. Hobbits were an original race you could play and that’s not something that Gygax came up with. So it’s a bit of a circular joke.
NotMax
Gary Gygax codified the rules.
Sab
@Mnemosyne: I feel for you.
2 a.m. here and my irradiated cat (hyperthyroid survivor) is sitting on his little chair downstairs yowling for more food.
He doesn’t need to eat a pound of lunchmeat daily since his treatment, so I am going to roll over and go back to sleep.
He got spoiled during his illness, when he needed feeding every couple of hours to keep from wasting away.
NotMax
Speaking of games, ran through the first chapter (free to play!) of King’s Quest last night. Lotta fun, pretty to look at and the absolutely barest minimum of shooting at anything living (a solid plus in the book of NotMax). Puzzles within ranged from okay to both ludicrous and frustrating.
Although Wallace Shawn, even when just doing voice over, has kind of worn out his welcome for me by now.
Sebastian
That thread is hilarious, thank you for sharing. In the comments PopeHat shows up and mentions a LotR coming along those lines. It’s the 20 Sided Tale and it’s a hoot.
https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=612
NotMax
@Sebastian
Oldish news, Netflix’ preliminary budget for a LOTR series is one billion dollars.
NotMax
@NotMax
Can’t believe I committed that error.
Amazon, not Netflix.
Sebastian
@NotMax:
Dang autocorrect, LotR COMIC in the style of that Twitter thread.
Amir Khalid
The latest Firefox update is asking me to set up an account with a login. Should I?
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Amir Khalid: Only if you feel the need to backup your extensions and options, sync your tabs between multiple devices, or use Pocket.
Origuy
@Sebastian: I’m going to be up all night reading this. Thanks a lot.
JGabriel
@cthulhu:
I was thinking much the same thing: LotR reads like a D&D session because D&D was modelled on LotR.
oatler.
Strangely, no one wanted to reenact the Tom Bombadil musical numbers.
p.a.
You can also look at it as a road trip novel, or a travel novel. JRRT was introducing us to his world at the same time as he was ending it because he couldn’t get his other tales published.
Geoduck
Again, the comic Sebastian links to is well worth reading if you either a Tolkien or D&D fan.
clay
@Geoduck: Yeah, I read DM of the Rings back when it was current. It’s great. There’s a “spin-off” in the same style using the Star Wars movies. It’s also great in a totally different way — and it’s still going!
http://www.darthsanddroids.net/archive.html
Sebastian
@Origuy:
Why should I be the only one!
Sebastian
@clay:
This is most excellent. Started it and those two sound EXACTLY like the folks I used to DM. I now finally understand so much more about my younger self.
clay
@Sebastian: Darths & Droids is very interesting, because it starts as a very funny gag strip — a parody of both Star Wars and RPGs. But somewhere along the way, it turns into an actual story that is compelling on it’s own right.
(A lot like Order of the Stick in that regard.)
batguano
This is awesome! That’s exactly how I RP for that exact reason and that’s usually the response.
JML
D&D wasn’t modeled on LotR, though. Sure they lifted a couple of elements from it (hobbits, most notably but certainly other things like the Ranger character class), but the pulp works of Robert E. Howard (Conan, in particular) and Jack Vance were more influential, especially in the early days. As the game evolved from Gygax & Arneson’s early designs, more “high fantasy” elements started showing up, but foundationally LotR plays a smaller role than most people would believe.
Dupe1970
@JML: Don’t forget the influence of Michael Moorecock and Fritz Leiber.
Bostondreams
@NotMax:
Man, memories. The original iteration of this game was the first one I ever played on my Tandy 1000 back in the early ’80’s. Trying to figure out the right combination of words to get Graham to do stuff was half the fun. :)
‘use bowl’
‘fill bowl’
‘eat from bowl’
‘f**k bowl’
SoupCatcher
@NotMax:
Inconceivable!
(I can’t believe no one hit that pitch you set up so perfectly out over the middle of the plate)
Hob
@Dupe1970: That’s getting a bit circular again though, because all of the early creators of “sword and sorcery” as a subgenre were pulling heavily from both Tolkien and Howard.
I still think it’s fair to say that regardless of what Gygax was reading, D&D as it was actually played owed more to Tolkien than to anyone else, just because Tolkien had 1000 times more cultural visibility. Howard was certainly influential, but lots of non-fans knew what a hobbit was and the same wasn’t really true of Conan or Fafhrd and definitely not Vance.
Lit3Bolt
I just read “The Silmarillion” finally and I’m just now starting to realize Tolkien is probably the most ripped off author on the planet. And not just “hehe, we’re just paying tribute to the great fantasy author.” It was direct and literal, cut out of context names and places lifted from Tolkien maps and added to D&D campaigns and books and video games.
The thing that shocked me was hearing about a river or cleft in Tolkien’s First Age map called Crissaegram. “Huh, that sounds familiar…where is that from?” Oh yeah, Castlevania, where one of the swords you wield is called that.
I mean, is making up fantasy names that hard for people? Or new plots, for that matter? If I was in the fantasy genre I’d want people to check out my homebrew campaign instead of retreading Tolkien for the 5000th time.
terry chay
Oldie but goodie: https://twitter.com/DungeonsDonald