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A couple of days ago it was brought to my attention that a bunch of wingers had their knickers in a twist about Senator Kyrsten Sinema’s outfit:

Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler said he will weigh challenging Democratic Sen. Doug Jones in 2020. But on his Facebook page, Zeigler has fixated on another junior senator.

On Saturday, Zeigler posted two pictures of Arizona Democratic Sen. Kyrsten Sinema wearing a short dress and tall boots accompanied by the headline “What newly elected AZ democrat senator Kyrsten Sinema wore to work.”

Zeigler, a Republican, originally referred to Sinema as “inappropriately attired” but edited the words out of the post an hour and a half later.

Personally, I thought she looks fine, and then I read this this morning:

Kyrsten Sinema, at the time an Arizona congresswoman, didn’t pose for the cutesy photo op the Dems staged on the Capitol steps. Nor did she tweet about her “right to bare arms,” as many of her colleagues did. But few legislators stood to benefit from the loosened rules as much as she did. In her three terms in the House, Sinema became known for a signature style: bold colors, graphic patterns, glittery hoop earrings, and lots of flouncy sleeveless dresses befitting the climate of her home state. With a few notable exceptions (see: eccentric “hipster” Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut), women in Congress usually favor more conservative ensembles: solid neutrals, structured sheath dresses, and shapeless trousers. The evident joy Sinema took in dressing outside the Washington norm was a welcome departure from the dutiful businesswear that currently populates the Capitol. It was also appropriate for the image of a post-partisan, aisle-crossing “social butterfly” she strove to present.

And you know what? She looks great. As I mentioned elsewhere, I was born wearing khakis and an Oxford cloth blue button down, I don’t like jewelry on men to the point that I do not wear a watch, and my fashion sense is even worse these days. But, as my grandfather used to say, “I can’t lay an egg but I can tell a good one from a bad one.” Her clothing is colorful, fun, and most important, she looks confident and happy. If the addled old farts can’t take her seriously because of her attire, that’s, you know, THEIR FUCKING PROBLEM.

And really, this is more of the faux decorum that makes Washington suck so much. We’ll spill column inches about someone taking their fucking jacket off in the oval office or not wearing what some addled old state auditor in Alabama thinks is appropriate for SOMEONE ELSE to fucking wear, and then look the other way when we put kids in cages. Only in America is someone saying “fuck you” worse than fucking over millions of people.

Also, this:

Fuck ’em. Be your bad self, Kyrsten.

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  2. 2.

    Wag

    I hope she wore a long jacket with that ensemble. Need to keep warm, what with the polar vortex and all…

  4. 4.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    on topic because “proud to be a Democrat”, Grampa Simpson has ideas about income inequality

    West Wing Reports @ WestWingReport
    Senator @ChuckGrassley (R-Iowa) says millions of Americans are lower-income because they “are just spending every darn penny they have whether it’s on booze or women or movies.”

  6. 6.

    trollhattan

    Goddamn cute, senator. Go give those old boys the vapahs.

    What must Lindsay think?…Nope, withdraw, no fvcks to give on that.

  8. 8.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    see: eccentric “hipster” Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut

    : blank stare emoji :

  11. 11.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Cheryl Rofer: I’m convinced she purposefully wore the form fitting outfit she did at the mock swearing in to fluster Pence. And she did. Including taking over, positioning him rather then letting him position her. My favorite part is when he said “that’s where the husband goes, do you have one?” and she got the “Imma gonna be wicked” look and responded with: “do I get one?” as in are you all going to issue me one. He was completely flummoxed and looked it.

  13. 13.

    debbie

    Reminds me of Laura Ingraham et al. complaining about Michelle’s bare arms while sitting before cameras with bare arms. Assholes.

  14. 14.

    Suzanne

    I love that a whole bunch of old ugly dudes think that they have any right to determine social norms for younger women. And by “love”, I really mean “find disgusting”.

  15. 15.

    Ruckus

    Those old farts are just jealous that she looks good. They look like dried up old prunes and have the personalities to match.

  18. 18.

    Suzanne

    @debbie: How much of a political and social norms are rotating on the axis of people who are used to having influence coming to find out that, well, no one gives a fuck what they think? Old rich white dudes: NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU.

    The Masters of the Universe do not carry as much importance as they think.

  20. 20.

    delk

    What’s it to Ziegler? Are the dim witted from Alabama going to see ‘starts with a big A, ends with a small a’ and think she represents them?

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    @ John Cole, up top

    that’s, you know, THEIR FUCKING PROBLEM

    Speaking of fucking, I think that is their problem. They look at her, the old codgers start thinking bad thoughts, and unless I am conflating some of the new women in the house, she is a lesbian and oh my god, they get cooties from even thinking dirty thoughts about a hot lesbian.

    The tweet I saw earlier this week had the guy saying something like she looked like she is dressed for pole dancing, or something horrible like that. Fuck these old guys.

  22. 22.

    ruemara

    I am virulently opposed to men having opinions on whether women are allowed to wear certain clothes. And I think the penalty should be that tongue bridle from olden times.

  27. 27.

    Adam L Silverman

    @debbie: Her’s are better, he subconsciously felt challenged, so he’s trying to overcompensate by showing more of his own.

  28. 28.

    Elizabelle

    @debbie: LOL. It’s true.

    Have you all noticed how beautifully taiiored AOC is? I have been admiring her severe and kind of austere style, which does not distract from anything she has to say. She is always in very cleanly cut clothing, no extraneous details, the hoop earrings, the vibrant red lips. It’s a power style.

  29. 29.

    Ruckus

    @Suzanne:
    I like that the elected government is starting to look like the population at large. Up to now it’s almost like they wanted elected reps to shut up, sit there and don’t annoy anyone in the elite class, meaning them. Well fuck them. It’s not their country, it’s all of ours. A dress code? For fucking adults? I vote for intelligent people to do honest work of governing, not be a fucking robot.

  30. 30.

    Sebastian

    @JR:

    Oh she knows what she is doing. The boots are a high charged sexual statement and she is using it masterfully. Those guys don’t know what’s happening to them and I love it.

  33. 33.

    Llelldorin

    So Zeigler figures that what Alabama really needs in the Senate is an incompetent fashion consultant?

    That’s an… unusual… platform to run on. Not saying it won’t work, Alabama being Alabama and Zeigler (to the best of my knowledge) being allowed in malls unsupervised, but still.

  36. 36.

    Cheryl Rofer

    I was at the New Mexico Capital today. We had to wait in the hall to see a Senator. People passing by were of every kind: young, old, and in between; female, male, and not obvious; in suits and sweatshirts; hot and not; Native American, Hispanic, and Anglo. All were busy and engaged.

    I love New Mexico.

  37. 37.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    This reminds me of the brouhaha over Obama wearing a cream-colored suit. Or not wearing a jacket and tie in the Oval Office. I mean, it’s cool to dress up in a suit, but it was super silly to say that he was somehow bringing dishonor or something to the White House by not wearing a full three piece suit. Not to mention racist.

  39. 39.

    Mai Naem mobile

    Kyrsten Sinema is one smart politician and I think you underestimate her at your own peril. I wish she was more liberal but I’ll take her over Martha McSally any day. I see big things in Sinemas future and she is young

  41. 41.

    PhoenixRising

    @Cheryl Rofer: The biggest fashion issue at the NM lege is…how to put this…the range of attire considered appropriate can be confounding. I had some very awkward meetings in my first sessions in NM because I was dressed far more formally than my elected representatives.

  43. 43.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @NotMax:
    Eh, that’s up to personal opinion. I don’t wear a suit often but to me, it depends on if the suit is well-tailored and fits well, not to mention if the colors match. It’s about looking good and feeling good. That builds self-confidence.

  45. 45.

    Suzanne

    Blah. Comment eated.

    I was musing back to my days in advertising, in which the media buyers would all be sad on the 36th birthdays, because they had aged out of the ultra-coveted 19-35 demographic. That demographic doesn’t have the most disposable income, not by a long shot. But they have the most style and social influence. These old dudes are having a sad because they grew up in a world in which your job, your income, your dudeliness, etc. all conferred influence. Kyrsten is part of the new world, and they are confused and resentful.

    So many dudes are so freaked out by women being autonomous and powerful. It would be funny if it wasn’t so goddamn dangerous.

  46. 46.

    Adam L Silverman

    @ruemara: I once had to have a word with the general manager of the gym I’m a member of. She’s good people. Some context: because of professional training and experience, I’m hyper vigilant in public places. Especially at the gym because I’ve got noise cancelling earbuds in when I work out. So I’m regularly scanning the room when I’m working out and I’m not face up or down on a weight bench. One day I get off the Helix machine because I’ve finished my 40 minutes and I’m going to go and get the wipes to wipe my sweat off of it. As I dismount and turn around and before I can scan the room I’m facing the front of the gym. Towards the front of the gym, near the kettle bell rack, is a young woman I’ve only seen once before – that same week. By young woman I mean somewhere between 16 and 28 (I’m 48 for context). She’s wearing the modern version of those 1970s jogging shorts. She’s just started doing a plank. And while she’s very neatly groomed, she’s not wearing anything under the shorts. I wasn’t glaring, this wasn’t an intentional or unintentional male gaze. Just wrong place/wrong time. I wasn’t going to say anything to her. I did mention it to one of the staff, who happens to be my licensed massage therapist. She agreed I needed to tell the GM, especially because we do have a handful of creeps – I’ve had to walk several women to their cars. And my concern was that one of them would get an unintended eye full and there would be a problem.

    So after a few days I finally connected with the GM. She’s known me for years, we get alone well, and I’m trying to provide the context and explain this. I’m trying to do it as clinically as possible. Almost like I’m providing a professional Intel Summary. I kept coming back to “I don’t like the idea of policing how anyone, especially women dress”. She told me she appreciated the info and would keep an eye out for the young woman. She later remarked to my LMT that I was the most uncomfortable she’d ever seen me.

  47. 47.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Elizabelle: Me too. I love hoop earrings, they are versatile. I like long necklaces too. I love playing with jewelry but I am quite conservative with clothes, not too girly.

    ETA: Also too, I have a weakness for silk scarves, I have
    a nice collection. Lightweight and warm

  48. 48.

    Suzanne

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: I enjoy me a hot dude in a suit. It’s a good look. But these old dudes in government do not look good. They do not wear a suit as a statement of style. As a result, they look tired and shitty and boring and pretentious. They don’t wear suits, the suits wear them.

    Cory Booker looks hot in his suits. They are a style statement for him.

  50. 50.

    joel hanes

    @WaterGirl:

    unless I am conflating some of the new women in the house, she is a lesbian

    According to her, Sen. Sinema is bi.

    That’s sorta even worse for the codgers : she’s sexually aware and compares their own (in)adequacy with both men and women. Very deflating.

  51. 51.

    Sloane Ranger

    Personally I don’t think the dress and the high boots go together but that’s just my fashion choice.

    Whatever she decides to wear doesn’t affect her ability to do the job she was elected to do. This sounds like another attempt by a man to exercise control over a woman.

  52. 52.

    geg6

    Word, Cole. You be you, Kyrsten. She’s beautiful and confident and seems fun and smart. Fuck the appropriate attire police. Until I hear them criticizing that rat on Rand Paul’s head for being not only inappropriate but actually offensive, they can shut right the fuck up.

  53. 53.

    Mike in NC

    Silly outfit, perhaps, but better than a few dozen fat white male Republicans who dress like Steve Bannon.

  55. 55.

    ruemara

    @Adam L Silverman: lol, very fair. I’ve seen more than a little too much of my fellow gym rats. Like it’s translucent, honey. I think you handled it well. I would have had a word with her myself. Thankfully, my issues are usually bra translucency and those are lovely underpants you’re wearing.

  57. 57.

    Adam L Silverman

    @ruemara: Bra Translucency was my neo-Glam cover band’s name.//

    More seriously, I was trying not to make the GM uncomfortable explaining the issue and managed to just make myself uncomfortable.

  58. 58.

    Suzanne

    Musing again on how the GOP hated Obama in part because he is cool AF and has style and always looked great. That has currency and these old fucks are incredibly jealous.

  60. 60.

    Kent

    Middle-aged guy here. I’ve been around professional women long enough to know that whatever she is wearing, she has put a lot of thought into it and also could give a shit about what some douchey old pastey white guy from Alabama thinks.

    Just wish men had more creativity. I worked in DC for a Senate subcommittee for a short stint in the 1990s (on loan from my agency) and it was either gray or navy suits. The only hint of personality you could maybe show was with the tie, but only with certain boundaries.

  61. 61.

    MagdaInBlack

    Welcome to our world, John. It does not matter what a woman wears, she will be criticized.

  62. 62.

    Aleta

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    JUNE MEDICAL SERVICES, L.L.C., ET AL., Applicants
    v.
    REBEKAH GEE, SECRETARY, LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HOSPITALS
    ORDER
    Because the filings regarding the application for a stay in this matter were not completed until earlier today and the Justices need time to review these filings, the issuance of the mandate of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, case No. 17-30397, is administratively stayed through Thursday, February 7, 2019. This order does not reflect any view regarding the merits of the petition for a writ of certiorari that applicants represent they will file.

  63. 63.

    Immanentize

    @Suzanne:
    That coolness is “ease.” Comfortable in your own skin. Not play acting for the position.

    I think W had that when he was on the ranch. He was play acting in the White House. Comfortable in jeans .

  64. 64.

    The Dangerman

    …to the point that I do not wear a watch…

    Brother? Me neither.

    I take it a step further; I’m not a big fan of earrings on women, either. Probably reason 2,047,315 I’m still single.

  65. 65.

    Suzanne

    Mr. Suzanne and I were discussing how makeup has also shifted from “does she or doesn’t she?” and this very male-gaze-oriented notion of beauty, whereas now many women wear makeup as a mode of self-expression, with less desire to look “natural”. It is not surprising that the dudes are now carping about how they “like women who don’t wear too much makeup” and many women are like, “yeah, do not GAF”. Makeup isn’t for dudes.

  69. 69.

    FelonyGovt

    Sinema looks great! Having entered into the business world at the time of “Dress for Success”, when women were supposed to wear skirt suits with pussycat bow blouses, I’m thrilled for younger women who look great and can wear whatever the hell they want.

  70. 70.

    Suzanne

    @schrodingers_cat: I have this theory that many straight middle-class men expected to have lives that were in many ways less competitive, and they didn’t really expect to have to look good to attract or keep women, since women were mostly financially dependent. And now that women have more earning power and more autonomy and are less likely settle for a loser dude, men are finding that they have to compete in ways they did not expect.

    BHO is a perfect example of this…..a dude who attracted a woman who is educated and smart and successful and lovely and he had to have a lot to offer in order to do that. Whereas Dotard represents the old way…..buying the affections of the most attractive, economically precarious, dependent women he can find.

  71. 71.

    Mary G

    I no longer give any fucks what old white Republican men think of anything. She is using her power and if she never accomplishes anything else in the Senate, I celebrate making the VP that uncomfortable.

  73. 73.

    Suzanne

    @FelonyGovt:

    I’m thrilled for younger women who look great and can wear whatever the hell they want.

    Damn skippy. And they can readjust those social norms by doing so. WIN.

  75. 75.

    Amir Khalid

    Does the US Senate have a formal dress code, and if so was Sinema in breach of it? If not, then there ain’t no there there. What she wore is less formal that what I would have worn in her situation, but it seems perfectable for public place.

  76. 76.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @FelonyGovt:

    Having entered into the business world at the time of “Dress for Success”, when women were supposed to wear skirt suits with pussycat bow blouses

    Goddamn those were awful. So glad they’re consigned to the dustbin of “fashion” history.

    ETA: I’m also thrilled that Sinema and AOC and other women choose to wear whatever they damn please. My style, such as it is, is a hybrid of LLBean and New Mexico casual, but I love the way these women dress. Nancy Pelosi’s power coat, also too.

  79. 79.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Her clothing is colorful, fun, and most important, she looks confident and happy.

    I think I’ve found the problem.

    Yep. This 1000%. Plus she seems totally comfortable. as in, “I love the skin I’m in”. Women are not supposed to feel like that. It frees up too much of their power and God forbid they’re powerful.

    I love her style, although at 56 I’d never be caught dead in over-the-knee boots and a mini-dress for obvious reasons.

    i’m so much more comfortable in jeans and a sweater or nice shirt, and Danskos. Or my nursing uniforms because all these outfits allow me to be comfortable and forget that I’m wearing clothes at all and just do what I need to be doing, period.

    As you might guess, learning to “Dress Business Casual” as a nurse practitioner will be a struggle for me.

    @O. Felix Culpa: I love New Mexico Casual rules of dress, I really must confess.

  80. 80.

    Immanentize

    @WaterGirl: The Immp and I discussed it and after WearBear’s insights, and the Immp’s impending leaving, we decided to let Toast just have this house with him until August. Then, I am planning on getting another cat to blend in with Toast. Immp really wants to have Toasty as unstressed and as available as possible for the next few months.

    We went today to get a pediatric genetic cancer consult before actually testing the Immp. Julie had a rather rare but significant variation tied to difuse gastric cancer. So it’s been rather a stressful day of option discussions. It’s a 50/50 thing for him and he could wait to test with some risks. But ever the scientist, my son chose knowledge over waiting in ignorance.

  82. 82.

    J R in WV

    @Suzanne:

    I’m here in AZ right now, and when I stopped over at my (female and my age, V mature!) cousin’s place, one of the first things she mentioned was “How cool is Senator Kyrsten?” with which my other slightly younger cousin on the other (maternal) side of my family and I totally agreed!!!

    The Senate needs new blood — the old white men haven’t done a good job in the past nearly 20 years, except for a couple of months during PResident Obama’s first term after Sen. Franken was finally seated. Plus several of the (R) women are worse than the (R) men! I

    I (we, actually) donated to Tammy Duckworth and Tammy Baldwin, IIRC, which may have helped address the old white men issue in the US Senate. I mostly donate to female candidates, working for change, don’cha know.

    I toyed with asking for an AZ meetup, but distances out here are so huge — it takes me 2 hours to get to Tucson, and I know it’s a V long way from Phoenix to Tucson, so never mind. But all you other AZ jackals, know that I love you for your presence on B-J whether you lurk and read or carry on like Suzanne and I do — maybe we can to a S AZ meetup some time in the future!

  84. 84.

    zhena gogolia

    Rosa De Lauro is a hipster????

    This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read since yesterday’s “Nobody ever met for coffee in the afternoon until Starbucks appeared.”

  85. 85.

    Mike in Pasadena

    What, can’t this country find anything more superficial to worry about? Maybe there’s a Democratic Senator who needs to cut his fingernails. Fug ’em.

  86. 86.

    WaterGirl

    @Immanentize: I can see where you’re coming from with Grace. You guys lost Julie and both of your lives will change again in the fall, so I can see why he doesn’t want to upset the status quo while he’s still at home.

    Until I read your comment just now, I was completely unaware of any of that about genetic testing. Do I understand correctly that the Immp has a literal 50-50 chance of having the gene that’s tied to Julie’s cancer? Holy shit, today must have been over the roof stressful. I am so sorry. You said he could wait to test with some risks. I’m not exactly sure what that means. That the tests are more risky if he waits to test? That’s probably not it. Is it the risk that something could happen before he gets the test? I am sorry you guys are having to deal with that, haven’t you all been through enough?

  88. 88.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    I love New Mexico Casual rules of dress, I really must confess.

    So do I. Makes life sooooo much easier, and more comfortable too. Jeans, neat top, boots, and a silver-and-turquoise Navajo wrist cuff with earrings to match, and I’m all dressed up!

  89. 89.

    Suzanne

    @J R in WV: Oh damn! We had an AZ meetup about two years ago. It was fun! I’m sure we could have thrown something together with more notice.

    @schrodingers_cat: Yeah, nor I. But I can afford to not GAF because I have other options. Women’s autonomy and education is very scary for shitty dudes, because we are increasingly earning those college degrees (more than men now) and the wage gap is closing. And marriage is changing in its class implications, increasingly becoming pairs with equal education and earning power (assortative mating). But hey——if they want something or someone, they can work for it.

  90. 90.

    John Revolta

    This reminds me of a scene from WKRP. Les Nessman, the prissy news guy, was giving Jennifer (Loni Anderson) some shit about the way she dressed and her general lifestyle:

    “What is it you do with yourself all weekend?”

    “………………I’m with men, Les. Lots of them……………….letting them have their way with me……………..wanna know what ELSE?”

    “NO!!!!” *scurries away*

  91. 91.

    Mayim

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Yeah, my favorite fashion designers are named L.L. Bean and Eddie Bauer. Fortunately, that’s perfectly acceptable attire for a librarian in Maine ;-)

  93. 93.

    Miss Bianca

    I have yet to be convinced about her politics, but I say her wardrobe rocks, and anyone who tries to shame her about it can fuck right off.

  94. 94.

    Immanentize

    @WaterGirl:
    Yes, I think we’ve been through enough!
    And — Yes, completely random 50/50 chance he has the varient. Damn dominent genes!

  96. 96.

    Mayim

    @Immanentize:

    Hope everything goes as well as possible with the testing.

    My mother had a mastectomy at 38 and died of ovarian cancer when she was 65. Having lived with the worry about breast cancer since I was 11 (her mastectomy, plus my father’s mother having died of breast cancer when I was 9), it was a HUGE relief to test recently and find out I don’t have the BRCA gene. I’m still classed as high risk, but it’s reasonable odds rather than close to certainty that I’ll have to deal with one or both types of cancer.

    And if the results had gone the other way? I would have been able to make more informed decisions. I’m a librarian rather than a scientist ~ but knowledge is power.

  97. 97.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Aleta: If the Supreme Court doesn’t take the case, they signal to the Fifth Circuit, all the other circuits, and the District Court that they won’t enforce and uphold their own precedent from 2016 that ruled this unconstitutional in a similar case from Texas. This one is all going to come down to Roberts and whether he thinks this will effect his legacy.

    ETA: This means Roe v Wade is formally still the law of the land and constitutional and functionally overturned without the Supreme Court having to formally overturn it.

  99. 99.

    jl

    My personal evaluation of the look, by my own tastes, of the outfit is not overly favorable.
    But, so what? If she wants to wear it, she should wear it.
    If they have a dress code, and what she wore gets by that, and the Senatorial stuffed shirts don’t like it, that is their, and their dress code’s problem, not hers, or mine or anybody else’s.

    It’s all just nonsense meant to distract from the garbage the GOP is pulling, and pull down the elected official trying to fix it.

  100. 100.

    Miss Bianca

    @Immanentize:

    But ever the scientist, my son chose knowledge over waiting in ignorance.

    May I just say that I am in fucking awe of the Immp? But I will also venture to say that in the arena of demonstrable courage, the apple probably doesn’t fall all that far from the tree(s).

  101. 101.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @Miss Bianca: My sisters live in Colorado. I like the outdoors there, but the place feels awfully white bread to me. I prefer the messy diversity of New Mexico. And it’s beautiful here too. Join us!

  102. 102.

    Steve in the ATL

    @O. Felix Culpa: I’ve skied Taos and Angel Fire, and while they aren’t Vail and Aspen, they weren’t bad. And the apres-ski cocktails and steaks were much more reasonable!

    Was disappointed when I saw my first roadrunner and it looked nothing like I expected. I can’t believe Looney Toons lied to us!

  103. 103.

    Mnemosyne

    I hate the boots. There, I said it. They’re ugly, and they remind me of the Ugg boots that teenage girls wear to the mall.

    On the other hand, who the fuck cares?

    And on the third hand, any dude who doesn’t realize that she dresses that way because she knows that they’ll underestimate her and she’ll win whatever it is she’s negotiating for is going to get rolled, hard.

  106. 106.

    gene108

    @Mnemosyne:

    Don’t think the boots go with the dress. They don’t match. I don’t like the look.

    But if that’s what she wants to wear to work and colleagues and constituents are cool with it, good for her.

  107. 107.

    Geeno

    @Immanentize: The line from WKRP that will forever be stuck in my head (after “As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly”) was Johnny Fever saying “You’re listening to WKRP the station with more music and Les Nessman”.

  108. 108.

    Ruckus

    @gene108:
    Why does everything have to be coordinated? She likes the boots. She’s wearing them, not us. She should look like she wants to look, not how ever tom, dick and harry pictures her in his imagination. Or how other women would want to look like if they were holding that job.
    Does anyone tell you how to dress for work? No one tells me, although they did tell me what I couldn’t wear. No denim pants, no shorts, no shirts without a collar. So on Fridays a bunch of us would wear Hawaiian style shirts, aloha Fridays we called it. My CEO hated it. A bonus.

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    3am

    I don’t like her outfit for the Senate or anywhere, but if I had a million problems that would make one million and one. Could hardly be brought to care about what I am wearing let alone someone else.

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    seaboogie

    Let Sinema wear whatever she wants – she, and all of our browns and women wear whatever they are comfortable in represent our diversity.

    I remember having to attend a corporate cocktail party, and stuck conversing with the CEO and VP of sales (I was a newly minted VP from a new sister company) said “I was not told that the dress code was a blue blazer and grey flannel pants.” In jest, but kind of not really.

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    Aleta

    @Adam L Silverman: It’s just a stay. You’re jumping the gun in explaining what it means if they don’t take the case. No need to explain to people here what is at stake, I imagine.

  114. 114.

    WaterGirl

    @Aleta:

    It’s just a stay. You’re jumping the gun in explaining what it means if they don’t take the case.

    I very much appreciate Adam’s explanation, because I had not idea at all what the case was about until he explained it. It think it’s just a matter of present tense, future tense, future perfect, etc.

    I am good about using the right tense in formal documents but I often catch myself being kind of lazy about that when I am writing a quick comment on a blog. Maybe this will help:

    If the Supreme Court doesn’t take the case, they WOULD signal to the Fifth Circuit, all the other circuits, and the District Court that they won’t enforce and uphold their own precedent from 2016 that ruled this unconstitutional in a similar case from Texas. This one is all going to come down to Roberts and whether he thinks this will effect his legacy.

    ETA: This means That would mean that Roe v Wade is would still formally be the law of the land and WOULD BE constitutional and BUT functionally overturned without the Supreme Court having HAD to formally overturn it.

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