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Things Other Than This Bullshit Open Thread

by Major Major Major Major|  February 15, 20191:51 pm| 155 Comments

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You know which bullshit I’m talking about.

I’m a little more aggro than normal right now because the expert consultant we’ve hired is being mad condescending, and I definitely don’t have it in me to read more about… this bullshit.

Some folks have been asking how Samwise is adjusting:

Would that we all could be so well-adjusted.

Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 15, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    He looks fetching on that red rug. Gray is my favorite neutral!

  2. 2.

    Eljai

    February 15, 2019 at 1:57 pm

    I would like to chill with my own catnip sack right about now but, alas, I have work to do.

  3. 3.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 1:57 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: give him a rectangle, he’ll sit on it! That rug was a present from my dad when I graduated college and moved out. I like it a lot.

  4. 4.

    eclare

    February 15, 2019 at 1:57 pm

    Did TaMara comment on how the vet visits went yesterday? Also, Miss Bianca, hope your doggie returns soon! Fingers and toes crossed.

  5. 5.

    chopper

    February 15, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    makin’ some homemade ramen tonight. meat and bones are a-simmerin now.

  6. 6.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 2:04 pm

    @chopper: ooh, yum. I’ve never made that broth before. I should try some time; all the damn ramen places around here use chicken, which I’m allergic to.

  7. 7.

    ArchTeryx

    February 15, 2019 at 2:08 pm

    We elevate a frothing lunatic to the office of the Presidency and I can’t even get promoted from a lousy Grade 6 ($30K a year) to Grade 13 ($41K/year) position because of my mental disabilities.

    But then, I’m poor, which automatically makes me a nonentity to most people in this country, something to be tolerated at best and encouraged to die when appropriate.

  8. 8.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 15, 2019 at 2:08 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Bosscat is the same way, except his favorite rectangles happen to be pillows. Also the color red is his favorite.

  9. 9.

    tobie

    February 15, 2019 at 2:13 pm

    Samwise is so debonair, and your bokhara is lovely.

  10. 10.

    Frank McCormick

    February 15, 2019 at 2:14 pm

    Sorry about the attitude from the consultant. I just went through a medical procedure, and with some of the staff, I got worse condescension when I let them know I had 40 years experience in the field. It’s a truly onerous defense mechanism.

  11. 11.

    trollhattan

    February 15, 2019 at 2:14 pm

    Today in NorCal weather we’re featuring every possible variation in discrete ten-minute segments. Did you like that cloudless blue sky? Good, here’s an ink-black cloud, thunder and hail. Let’s spin the wheel and see what we can do next. Yes, sideways rain is a good idea.

  12. 12.

    jeffreyw

    February 15, 2019 at 2:18 pm

    Thread needz moar asshole.

  13. 13.

    Yarrow

    February 15, 2019 at 2:20 pm

    Well, the bullshit over here is one family member who had open heart surgery and another who had prostate surgery. So there’s that.

  14. 14.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 2:21 pm

    @trollhattan: yeah, I’m glad I don’t have to be there for that! I know the media pictures are always the worst of the worst (guerneville… yikes), but yikes!

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    February 15, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    @eclare: I have asked in two different threads — no answer yet.

  16. 16.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 15, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    @jeffreyw: I am a Homer fan. Right from the time you first photographed him with his paw in a splint.

  17. 17.

    WaterGirl

    February 15, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    @trollhattan: I called a business in California today and they were completely incapable of answering my question because — “it’s snowing here!” That was about the best I could get out of them.

    I said I would call back next week.

  18. 18.

    WaterGirl

    February 15, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    @jeffreyw: You quit calling him that!

  19. 19.

    debbie

    February 15, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    How’s Samwise dealing with the city noise?

  20. 20.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    @trollhattan: @Major Major Major Major: We’re (finally) getting a reprieve from the snow in Washington…only to be getting another system next week. Oh and what’s on the ground will barely melt because it won’t really warm up enough.

    Did I mention my parking space at my apartment complex is buried under a foot of snow?

  21. 21.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    @debbie: we’re on the eighth floor and face the courtyard, so it’s actually quieter than our place in SF. Except for the neighbors who have very loud sex.

  22. 22.

    WhatsMyNym

    February 15, 2019 at 2:42 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I called a business in California today and they were completely incapable of answering my question because — “it’s snowing here!” That was about the best I could get out of them.

    That might be Redding, they got a foot of new snow.

  23. 23.

    J R in WV

    February 15, 2019 at 2:43 pm

    We hired a couple of new guys whose mission was to design a web-development environment for a highly complex regulatory permitting program. Without bothering to learn about the complexities, they set to work. It was far too complex for them to explain it to we lowly state employees, regardless of our experience with highly complex regulatory data.

    Finally they scheduled a demo of their work, which was about 30 minutes into the schedule cancelled, as they had to “rebuild the servers”~!!~

    This demo scheduling/cancelling cycle went on for a couple more months. They were 3 coders and a DBA, all local guys, as upper management didn’t trust the Indian genius contractors we hired. Then one Sunday afternoon the network admin was in to upgrade a server, and noticed a high level of network traffic in a shop that had one employee at work, him.

    Turned out that our crack web development team inventing a web development environment had no idea how to do that, and so were building a commercial auto dealership platform on the government dime, while publishing first run films from our network. Monday morning my boss called me, told me to confiscate the laptops the “four amigos” were issued and to instruct them to stay in their work space and not to talk to anyone, not even themselves.

    My boss, who I had warned several times that the four amigos were screwing him, got fired, kinda. We didn’t prosecute the four amigos because that would have consumed the time we needed to develop the system they were supposed to support.

    I think condescending experts are using that attitude to keep hard questions at bay, largely. Be very suspicious of this outside expert, who may not know as much as he advertised he knows.

    Samwise looks fairly relaxed, living with his guys, has that nice prayer rug. You guys take care in the big city!

  24. 24.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 2:46 pm

    @J R in WV: he’s a bona fide expert we brought in to teach us stuff he’s just being a dick.

  25. 25.

    AThornton

    February 15, 2019 at 2:50 pm

    @J R in WV:

    IBM has built a very successful businesses sending in consultants to sell businesses fixes for problems created by buying business fixes sold by IBM consultants to fix the problems created by buying IBM in the first place.

  26. 26.

    Mike in DC

    February 15, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    This Jussie Smollett thing is confusing the hell out of me. Lotta twists and turns and more than a little disinformation out there.

  27. 27.

    trollhattan

    February 15, 2019 at 2:56 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: @WaterGirl:
    It’s jitters season because with so much snow in the mountains they’re dumping reservoirs to create more headspace and so the rivers passing through our metroplex are quite high, about ten feet above my neighborhood at present. Wonder if the levee reinforcement went to the lowest bidder?

    Hey look, sun!

  28. 28.

    FelonyGovt

    February 15, 2019 at 2:56 pm

    Awww, Samwise is so beautiful and looks so content.

  29. 29.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 3:05 pm

    @FelonyGovt: I am willing to bet the jury is still out for him, but Samwise finds the accommodations in the new kingdom acceptable for now.

  30. 30.

    rikyrah

    February 15, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Ok…which one of you was driving through South Carolina last October?

    $1.5 billion Mega Millions jackpot still unclaimed—here’s what happens if no one comes forward by the deadline
    Yoni Blumberg | @YoniBlum 11:27 AM ET Fri, 16 Nov 2018

    In late October, Mega Millions announced that someone had won its $1.5 billion jackpot. But two months have passed and still, no one has come forward to claim the enormous prize, Josh Whiteside, director of marketing at the South Carolina Education Lottery, tells CNBC Make It.

    “Everyone’s talking about it,” said Jee Patel, the manager of the KC Mart in Simpsonville, South Carolina, where the winning ticket was purchased. “It’s a mystery.”

    The winner, who beat the odds of 1 in 302 million, gets 180 days, or until April 21, to collect before the ticket expires.

    If the prize goes unclaimed by the deadline, according to the Mega Millions website, “each participating state in the Mega Millions game will get back all the money that state contributed to the unclaimed jackpot.

    If that person has lost the ticket, Black Jesus, don’t ever let them know….

    If you still have it…COME ON..put on the face mask like the dude in Jamaica did…LOL

  31. 31.

    jacy

    February 15, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    Samwise is such a handsome cat!

    My update — I have about a week left for fundraising (The last day I can make my payment is the 25th), With my savings I”m still short about $1,700. So if anybody would like to buy art, I’ve got some new things up, and I can also do any artwork on mugs and t-shirts, just ask. For Jackals only, you can use the coupon code Jackal20 and get 20% of your order. https://www.etsy.com/shop/TheSpectralObelisk
    —

    My GoFundMe will run until next Friday.

    The cold the kid gave me turned into bronchitis this week, so I’ve been dragging, but I’m starting to feel better.

  32. 32.

    rikyrah

    February 15, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    Samwise is so beautiful :)

  33. 33.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 15, 2019 at 3:22 pm

    @jeffreyw: Homer! Is he pushy about Kindle reading speed?

    Samwise is lovely.

  34. 34.

    ruemara

    February 15, 2019 at 3:23 pm

    Samwise looks like he’s settling into being a NYer quite well. Aloof & elegant is the standard. So is weird, but fabulous.

    And sun is gone so here’s heavy rain.

  35. 35.

    debbie

    February 15, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    @jacy:

    Your link goes to a BJ “Nothing Found” page.

  36. 36.

    Aleta

    February 15, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    @J R in WV:

    I think condescending experts are using that attitude to keep hard questions at bay, largely.

    A variation of that in a director (or manager) reveals insecurity that’s going to be problematic, acc to my friend in management.

  37. 37.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    @debbie: fixed

  38. 38.

    jacy

    February 15, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    @debbie:

    Aarrgh. Technology hates me. My GoFundMe.

  39. 39.

    Barbara

    February 15, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    @J R in WV: I once worked with a cybersecurity consultant who was called in by a very nervous division of a government agency because they thought their servers had been hacked and hijacked, based on the increased level of activity they noted. The consultant traced the problem to an employee who had built and was running a gambling transaction platform using the agency’s servers. This was actually considered to be a good outcome compared to the alternative possibilities that had been keeping them up at night.

  40. 40.

    debbie

    February 15, 2019 at 3:29 pm

    Not sure if I will watch this because I am not sure what a “grownup state of mind” even means.

    ×
    Great Performances
    Movies for Grownups Awards With AARP The Magazine
    SEASON 46, EPISODE 13 • NEW
    9:00 PM ON WOSUDT 34.1 • TV-PG • STEREO • CC
    Recognizing actors, films and filmmakers whose work appeals to those with a grownup state of mind.

  41. 41.

    debbie

    February 15, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    @jacy:

    It hates us all. Your new link still doesn’t work, but MMMM fixed your original one.

  42. 42.

    jacy

    February 15, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Aaaarrrggghhh

    Third time is the charm. My Go Fund Me.

  43. 43.

    jacy

    February 15, 2019 at 3:33 pm

    @debbie:

    Thank you and M4 — I would go back to bed if I didn’t have so much freaking work to do. Sigh.

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    February 15, 2019 at 3:35 pm

    @debbie: Both links work for me. Which didn’t work? Etsy or GoFundMe?

    edit: never mind. I see that M^4 fixed it.

  45. 45.

    debbie

    February 15, 2019 at 3:35 pm

    @jacy:

    I wasn’t able to donate much, but I hope all your problems with your mortgage company disappear!

  46. 46.

    debbie

    February 15, 2019 at 3:37 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Both, but MMMM fixed the first one. Jacy’s third try works fine.

  47. 47.

    Tarragon

    February 15, 2019 at 3:37 pm

    So the jealous girlfriend meme got brought up a couple days ago.

    I was mentioning that to my spouse, let’s call her Ginger, and she showed me that that stock photo is part of a series that tells a story. A weird, dark story.

    https://didyouknowfacts.com/unfaithful-guyjealous-girlfriend-meme-couple-entire-story-shutterstock/

  48. 48.

    Roger Moore

    February 15, 2019 at 3:42 pm

    @Barbara:

    This was actually considered to be a good outcome compared to the alternative possibilities that had been keeping them up at night.

    I can understand that. It’s bad when you catch an employee doing something wrong, but you can hope to solve the problem by firing them, changing passwords, etc. Digging out hackers who have taken over your system may be a lot harder.

  49. 49.

    J R in WV

    February 15, 2019 at 3:43 pm

    @AThornton:

    IBM has built a very successful businesses sending in consultants to sell businesses fixes for problems created by buying business fixes sold by IBM consultants to fix the problems created by buying IBM in the first place.

    Yes, indeed. We saw this business plan and avoided it, even after IBM offered us six figures in “free consulting” — in other words just enough to get us in past any recovery. But they wanted us to adopt a platform which was so undeveloped the IBM guys couldn’t even explain it, past the name they gave it. Guys, just nope, OK!?!!

    Later on, by happenstance, we actually met an IBM VP for SE Asia who told us that the platform was not yet developed sufficiently for actual production use… after we decided that on our own.

  50. 50.

    Brachiator

    February 15, 2019 at 3:43 pm

    @Tarragon:

    I was mentioning that to my spouse, let’s call her Ginger, and she showed me that that stock photo is part of a series that tells a story. A weird, dark story.

    Ok…. That was an interesting little sideshow.

  51. 51.

    J R in WV

    February 15, 2019 at 3:52 pm

    @Barbara:

    That is so close to our situation back in the late 1990s. They were trading subscriptions to free first run movies in exchange for live versions of high end development software platforms. Like middleware software, database systems, operating systems, networking tools. Including our bought and paid for tools!! Plus developing the online auto dealership, which was about their peak capability.

    They were totally unable to do what they had been brought in for, which was why their demo meetings kept getting cancelled. They sold their services, claimed to be able to create a development environment, were not systems developers in any sense of that description.

    Then our staff did the job, a classic case of people not believing that something cutting edge could be developed in house, compared to outside “consultants” who were only good at selling themselves, not at doing what they claimed to be able to do.

  52. 52.

    Barbara

    February 15, 2019 at 3:53 pm

    @Brachiator: I never click on links that someone doesn’t describe in greater detail. Partly it’s an issue of time, and partly an issue of pique when my time has been wasted, but I think it’s a rather good habit.

  53. 53.

    Martin

    February 15, 2019 at 4:01 pm

    @J R in WV: Software is your business process turned into code. Nobody outsources their business process because that’s the whole fucking point of a business. Companies need to do this in-house.

    On happier news, if you hated writing term papers your kids/grandkids will be spared the burden. If you’re a teacher, soon you won’t need to bother reading them, because there’s no fucking way you’ll be able to tell if they wrote them or not. If you work for turnitin.com, find a new job.

  54. 54.

    A Ghost To Most

    February 15, 2019 at 4:04 pm

    @Martin:

    Software is your business process turned into code. Nobody outsources their business process because that’s the whole fucking point of a business. Companies need to do this in-house.

    Mostly but not entirely true. Some businesses completely upend their normal process to conform to a platform (e.g. SAP), and screw themselves in the process.

  55. 55.

    Martin

    February 15, 2019 at 4:05 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Then our staff did the job, a classic case of people not believing that something cutting edge could be developed in house, compared to outside “consultants” who were only good at selling themselves, not at doing what they claimed to be able to do.

    That’s my problem at work. It’s much faster for me to teach the subject matter experts to code than to teach the coders to be subject matter experts. We need a few software engineers around to manage the process, but it’s remarkably better to just blur the line between software and non-software staff.

  56. 56.

    StringOnAStick

    February 15, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    @jeffreyw: OK, that photo made me giggle: “where did they all go?”

  57. 57.

    Cheryl Rofer

    February 15, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    I am getting ready for an overnight visitor, and in opening up the sofa bed, I found the lost catnip mousies!

  58. 58.

    A Ghost To Most

    February 15, 2019 at 4:12 pm

    @Martin: If a database is involved, involve an expert in the design. Developers and SMEs rarely understand proper database design.

  59. 59.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 4:15 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Woohoo!

  60. 60.

    StringOnAStick

    February 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm

    I’m getting a new knee in the middle of March, provided the insurance company isn’t a dick about it. Yay me! Not so yay having a joint sawed out of my body but the damned thing is making me grumpy with constant pain and inability to do the things I love. So, it’s time to start the bionic conversion process.

  61. 61.

    MattF

    February 15, 2019 at 4:17 pm

    OT. Um, we’ll soon be replaced.

  62. 62.

    Gravenstone

    February 15, 2019 at 4:20 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    “it’s snowing here!”

    Congratulations! Would you like me to send you some of the foot plus of the white shit sitting in my front yard? No? Then perhaps you could get back to the subject of my question…

  63. 63.

    narya

    February 15, 2019 at 4:20 pm

    @Martin: My only exception to this is electronic health record systems (I mean, there may be others, but it’s one I deal with daily). We have to do a lot of work around workflow to make it work for us (all people who use the systems have to do this), but there is enough similarity among providers that it’s a do-able thing. Also, the feds (a) funded the transition to EHRs (at least for community health centers) and (b) require that the one you use actually meet specific standards.

  64. 64.

    chopper

    February 15, 2019 at 4:20 pm

    ugh. mass shooting just happened right by where i grew up.

    while back there was a mass shooting at my alma mater. wtf.

  65. 65.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 4:28 pm

    @MattF: I’m very skeptical of the whole “our AI is so scary we can’t release it!” shtick.

    ETA: and of course the media is focusing on cherry-picked examples.

    Overall, we find that it takes a few tries to get a good sample, with the number of tries depending on how familiar the model is with the context. When prompted with topics that are highly represented in the data (Brexit, Miley Cyrus, Lord of the Rings, and so on), it seems to be capable of generating reasonable samples about 50% of the time. The opposite is also true: on highly technical or esoteric types of content, the model can perform poorly.

    https://blog.openai.com/better-language-models/

  66. 66.

    MattF

    February 15, 2019 at 4:36 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: I guess I agree. Also, if it was already so good, it would be out there in the wild as we speak. It’s also reasonable to be skeptical about these large neural nets, considering that no one really knows how they work.

  67. 67.

    Brachiator

    February 15, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    @Barbara:

    I never click on links that someone doesn’t describe in greater detail. Partly it’s an issue of time, and partly an issue of pique when my time has been wasted, but I think it’s a rather good habit.

    I agree. But here the link provided a fun, if odd, little diversion.

  68. 68.

    VeniceRiley

    February 15, 2019 at 4:38 pm

    I think my mom had that almost exact rug … we brought home from Iran with a bunch of others, iirc, circa late ’70’s.

  69. 69.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 4:46 pm

    @chopper: Damn. I wanted to see what was up and got the “your browser is so old we don’t even bother to develop for it” message. It’s the work browser, so I’m kind of stuck there too.

  70. 70.

    WaterGirl

    February 15, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    @Yutsano:

    AURORA, Ill. — Four police officers and multiple civilians were wounded in an active shooter situation in west suburban Aurora, city officials confirmed.

    Aurora police about 3:30 p.m. Friday said the scene had been secured and that the shooter was no longer a threat to the area. About a half hour earlier, city officials said the shooter was apprehended.

    An active shooter situation was first reported about 1:45 p.m. Friday near Highland Avenue and Prairie Street. There are several businesses in that area, including Henry Pratt Company. The streets in the area are closed.

    A city spokesman said there were multiple civilian casualties, but provided no additional information.

    Rush Copley Medical Center said it received two patients who were being treated for non-life threatening injuries.

    Kane County’s SWAT team, the U.S. Marshal’s Task Force, ATF, the FBI and local police departments responded.

    West Aurora School District 129 posted on its Facebook page that students are sheltering in place for their safety. Here is a statement from the West Aurora School District 129:

    “There are reports of an active shooter at the Henry Pratt building near Cleveland and Prairie just east of Luigi’s Pizza, as a result, we are holding all district students in place for their safety, there is a police presence in the area. Per directions from the county sheriff, the District has been advised to go into a soft lockdown situation across the district. Teaching will continue with reduced movement. Normal operations will resume when the soft lockdown has been lifted. No one will be allowed to leave or enter our buildings until the soft lockdown has been lifted.”

    Two businesses in the area told WGN they have been told by police to stay inside.

  71. 71.

    JPL

    February 15, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: lol Better than the real thing.. just sayin

  72. 72.

    chopper

    February 15, 2019 at 4:55 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    i am so fucking goddamn sick of this shit.

  73. 73.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 4:57 pm

    @chopper: @WaterGirl: No words. Just hugs. Because that’s all I got.

  74. 74.

    jeffreyw

    February 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm

    @jacy: Yay! You have calico and tuxedo mugs. I ordered, thank you!

  75. 75.

    jeffreyw

    February 15, 2019 at 5:00 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: Homer fights all the other cats. He gets on with Gabe. He would rather be a dog, I think.

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    February 15, 2019 at 5:02 pm

    Rain on the roof, day 9. Tried every remote in the house and this soggy channel won’t change.

  77. 77.

    Tarragon

    February 15, 2019 at 5:04 pm

    @Brachiator:
    Huh, I thought I described it pretty precisely…

    “that stock photo (ed: that we discussed earlier) is part of a series that tells a story. A weird, dark story.”

  78. 78.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 15, 2019 at 5:06 pm

    @Yutsano: are “your browser” jokes like “yo mama” jokes for IT types?

    “Your browser’s so old…you got it on an AOL 3.5” floppy disk”

    Aw yeah—this could get wild

  79. 79.

    Brachiator

    February 15, 2019 at 5:07 pm

    @Tarragon:

    Huh, I thought I described it pretty precisely…

    “that stock photo (ed: that we discussed earlier) is part of a series that tells a story. A weird, dark story.”

    No, you were fine, but obviously for others, their mileage may vary. But I was also just noting that in general I like for good descriptions to explain links.

    Again, the link you provided was a welcome diversion.

  80. 80.

    Roger Moore

    February 15, 2019 at 5:08 pm

    @Martin:

    Software is your business process turned into code. Nobody outsources their business process because that’s the whole fucking point of a business. Companies need to do this in-house.

    I don’t buy this, or at least I don’t buy it completely. For a lot of companies, the stuff they need software for is routine housekeeping- salaries, benefits, and taxes or sending invoices- and having custom software, much less an in-house developer, is massive overkill. Even for companies that need a custom package, it’s very rare for the software developers to be the ones who know the business practices well enough to implement them as code, so you’re going to have to have the people who know the business logic teach it to the developers whether they’re in-house or consultants. If it’s something that will be developed once and then go to maintenance mode for a long time, it may make more sense to hire consultants to do the heavy lifting, with your in-house IT team who will be in change of maintenance working as the point of interface between the company and the consultants. It’s a pretty rare company that needs so much custom code that they can keep a team of developers working full time.

  81. 81.

    NotMax

    February 15, 2019 at 5:11 pm

    @Steve in the ATL

    Netscape 4 was the berries. For realsies.

  82. 82.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 5:14 pm

    @Roger Moore: Not to mention that a significant amount of custom business logic ends up being implemented as a bunch of other people’s open-source code stapled together.

  83. 83.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 15, 2019 at 5:16 pm

    @NotMax: please rewrite in the form of a “your browser” joke

  84. 84.

    chopper

    February 15, 2019 at 5:18 pm

    @NotMax:

    you know what i miss using? lynx.

    still around tho.

  85. 85.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 5:19 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: your browser’s so old it can’t even be hijacked to mine cryptocurrency

  86. 86.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 15, 2019 at 5:19 pm

    @chopper: please rewrite in the form of a “your browser” joke

  87. 87.

    NotMax

    February 15, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    @Steve in the ATL

    Wasn’t a joke but if you insist, a lame one.

    Your browser is so old it needs a denture plug-in to handle bytes.

  88. 88.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: @Steve in the ATL: Your browser’s so old it can’t even handle 8 bit animations.

  89. 89.

    Roger Moore

    February 15, 2019 at 5:26 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Your browser’s so old, it was covered by the Microsoft consent decree.

  90. 90.

    Martin

    February 15, 2019 at 5:27 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Well, the whole point of OpenAI is ‘our AI is so scary we can’t release it!’, so you gotta factor that in.

    But it doesn’t really matter if it takes multiple tries – it’ll still be faster than writing it yourself. Run it 3-4 times, take the best of the lot as your first draft, edit it up. Done.

    The reasons why ML is so transformative is that once you train the model, you can distribute the model everywhere nearly instantly. It takes a long time to train a brand new human how to play go, but you can teach a brand new phone how to play in seconds now that the millions of training games have already been played.

  91. 91.

    J R in WV

    February 15, 2019 at 5:29 pm

    @Martin:

    Software is your business process turned into code. Nobody outsources their business process because that’s the whole fucking point of a business. Companies need to do this in-house.

    We didn’t have a “business process” — we were a regulatory agency with laws, rules, and regulations, as well as procedures. Far more complex than standard business process, which I was also familiar with from working in industry way back in the day.

    Regulatory data practices are way more demanding than business data standards. A business just needs to know where to send the bill, today (or the ordered material, etc) — but a regulatory agency needs to know all the addresses, ever, when they changed, why they changed, etc. just for a single datum example.

    Contractors from the private sector had trouble getting their heads around that principle, esp including the “four amigos” who were astounded when we finally sat them down and showed them existing systems and their data standards. We insisted, they resisted until that day.

    I think they gave up on their assigned task that very day… just decided to see if they could develop a marketable business system before they got fired. Nope!

  92. 92.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 5:29 pm

    @Yutsano: Your browser’s so old it thinks a websocket is something you plug a spider into.

  93. 93.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 15, 2019 at 5:31 pm

    This is quickly turning into the best thread of the week. Well done, gentlemen…and NotMax!

  94. 94.

    jl

    February 15, 2019 at 5:33 pm

    On the brighter side, having things on your plate that you’d rather optionally, and prefer, to handle as an emergency are better than real emergencies.
    Only upside I can see to the BS so far.
    Other than if any SCOTUS justice votes to uphold this executive nonsense, will be good grounds for impeachment, conviction, and removal if the Dems ever get the votes in the Senate.

  95. 95.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 5:34 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Your browser’s so old even dial-up is too fast for it.

    @Steve in the ATL: This really is a neglected genre of dad joke.

  96. 96.

    piratedan

    February 15, 2019 at 5:34 pm

    Your Browser is so old it only wishes it could be Netscape Navigator……

  97. 97.

    NotMax

    February 15, 2019 at 5:36 pm

    @Steve in the ATL

    Your browser is so old that on St. Patrick’s Day it eats corned beef and Babbage.

  98. 98.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 5:38 pm

    @NotMax: thread has been won everybody go home

  99. 99.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 5:38 pm

    @jl: There’s no putting that genie back in the bottle. Between Yertle and Drumpf the emergency powers action to get around Congress is now officially a thing. And The Reptile is just going to let it happen because he can’t seem to get his stopping point with the President. Everyone but the dolt in the White House knows this is a bad idea. This is the kind of shit that needs squished fast or else Congress becomes moot.

  100. 100.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: @NotMax: *slow clap*
    I think we’re done here folks.

  101. 101.

    Martin

    February 15, 2019 at 5:40 pm

    Your browser is so old it starts every page with AT&F&C1&D2&K3&Q5E1V1Q0X4^M.

    Your browser is so old it still has hamster dance cached.

    Your browser is so old it never got around to learning how to blink.

  102. 102.

    Gemina13

    February 15, 2019 at 5:41 pm

    @Yutsano: Yikes. I’m in Tacoma, and the snow is melting here at a decent clip. Still, if we’re in for another cycle . . . oh, shit, I’d better get chains for the tires.

  103. 103.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 5:44 pm

    @Martin: I’ve never been surprised that computers are good at games. I’ll admit these are some impressive results for natural language, but still, far cry from what the headlines are predictably screaming about.

    "She chewed on her eating soup"
    The talents of @OpenAI's GPT-2 text generator include writing fan fiction.https://t.co/a5BQ0dYpEl pic.twitter.com/a6GrAcJBVX

    — Janelle Shane (@JanelleCShane) February 15, 2019

  104. 104.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 5:45 pm

    @Gemina13: My car needed new wheels anyway. So I ran out and shelled for some nice all seasons. Now my girl cuts through snow like there’s no tomorrow.

    But yeah according to the models I see Tuesday could see another wave. And y’all on the coast are getting a lot more warmth right now than us east side ducks. I just don’t know how much more the next storm is going to bring. I just know our emergency managers have been throwing contact numbers at us.

  105. 105.

    MomSense

    February 15, 2019 at 5:47 pm

    Everything was iced over this morning so it was treacherous walking. The sidewalks are impassable so pedestrians were walking in the streets – which are more narrow than usual because of the snow. Then we had freezing rain which turned to rain causing everything to melt. By the time I left work though it had all refrozen with lots of cold water over the ice. I should have taken my figure skates today.
    The good news is work buckshot was so busy I didn’t have time to check in on today’s trump bullshit. I did listen to him speak briefly yesterday and he sounded short of breath to me. His voice sounded weak, too.

  106. 106.

    Yarrow

    February 15, 2019 at 5:47 pm

    Judge has given Roger Stone a gag order. I know there’s a joke in there.

  107. 107.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 15, 2019 at 5:47 pm

    Yo’ browser so old when it crashed it was from Luddites.

  108. 108.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 15, 2019 at 5:48 pm

    @Yutsano: Your browser is so old it thinks of AOL means America On Hold as #62.

  109. 109.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 15, 2019 at 5:49 pm

    @Martin: alternatively, your browser’s so old it still knows how to blink.

  110. 110.

    NotMax

    February 15, 2019 at 5:49 pm

    @Yarrow

    Low hanging fruitcake.

    ;)

  111. 111.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 15, 2019 at 5:51 pm

    @NotMax: I got nothing to match that. Sadly, I replied before I saw it.

    Back to take the chicken out of the marinade.

  112. 112.

    Yutsano

    February 15, 2019 at 5:51 pm

    @Yarrow: Should we start a pool on when he violates it?

  113. 113.

    jeffreyw

    February 15, 2019 at 5:51 pm

    Your browser so old it sent queries via pony express.
    The last update was sent via airmail.

  114. 114.

    debit

    February 15, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    @Yutsano: Your browser is so old it actually thinks its a GEnie Round Table.

  115. 115.

    debbie

    February 15, 2019 at 5:53 pm

    I don’t know about browsers, but to remote in for work, I have to rely on Citrix. Sucks. Citrix sucks on Chromebooks, so I’m supposed to use Ethernet. Double sucks.

  116. 116.

    J R in WV

    February 15, 2019 at 5:57 pm

    @debbie:

    Oh, dog, Citrix was hot new thing when I retired — in 2008… probably really bad today as those companies never rewrote their family jewels software once it was a successful product. So 10 year old product? Bletch!!

  117. 117.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 15, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    @Roger Moore: old school!

    @Major Major Major Major: new school!

    @NotMax: REALLY old school!

  118. 118.

    Keith P.

    February 15, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    @Yarrow: He was hoping for a ball gag. Or maybe a buff black dude to bang his wife while Roger jerks off on the corner of the bed.
    Thank you, I’m here all week! Please tip your waitress.

  119. 119.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 15, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    I had a good time today at Capricon. I even sold three books! People looked at the paperback, asked if there was an e-book, and ordered it on their phone right in front of me. Most books I’ve sold in a single day in a while.

  120. 120.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 15, 2019 at 6:01 pm

    @Yutsano: I suppose “your browser is so old it is currently used by federal employees” was too painful for you?

  121. 121.

    NotMax

    February 15, 2019 at 6:05 pm

    Summer camp I worked at had a pony named Browser. After Browser died our resident* Native American cut off the tail and attached it to a belt he wore when performing the horse dance. Took a few years before some of the kids watching him didn’t cry.

    *As in, had been on staff in one form or another since the 1930s.

  122. 122.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 15, 2019 at 6:09 pm

    @NotMax: your browser is so old it was a pony at my summer camp?

  123. 123.

    Roger Moore

    February 15, 2019 at 6:10 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:
    Your browser’s so old, your homepage is Geocities.

  124. 124.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 15, 2019 at 6:10 pm

    @NotMax: Now I’m crying. I hope you’re happy.

    I’m morbidly curious about whether the pony was named for a habit of grazing from branches or you worked at a summer camp more recently than I would have guessed.

  125. 125.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 15, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    @Roger Moore: AW DAMN!

  126. 126.

    debit

    February 15, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    @Keith P.: I think you’re thinking of Paul Manafort.

  127. 127.

    O. Felix Culpa

    February 15, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Some businesses completely upend their normal process to conform to a platform (e.g. SAP), and screw themselves in the process.

    True dat re: SAP. OTOH, it gave my ex-husband great job security, since fixing SAP transitions apparently provides a life-time sinecure.

  128. 128.

    NotMax

    February 15, 2019 at 6:18 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    This goes back to the 1960s/1970s. If it is any consolation, Browser was really, really old when his time came.

  129. 129.

    Roger Moore

    February 15, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:
    Your browser is so old it doesn’t have bookmarks.

  130. 130.

    Keith P

    February 15, 2019 at 6:22 pm

    @debit: Him, too. Both guys are rumored to be into watching someone else bang their wives. Republicans are limp-dicks

  131. 131.

    Roger Moore

    February 15, 2019 at 6:29 pm

    @Keith P:

    Both guys are rumored to be into watching someone else bang their wives.

    So they’re literal [edit] rather than as well as figurative cucks.

  132. 132.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 15, 2019 at 6:30 pm

    @NotMax:

    This goes back to the 1960s/1970s.

    For a minute I mis-read your post as being about Bowser, from Sha Na Na.

  133. 133.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 15, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    @NotMax: Ponies tend to be long lived little snots. I’m actually quite happy that Browser lived on in the horse dance, and I understand how bittersweet it would be for the kids.

  134. 134.

    NotMax

    February 15, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    The tail which Browser’s replaced was more than showing its age and extended use. Think it must have come from an eohippus.

  135. 135.

    chopper

    February 15, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    hey now, i resemble that remark.

    seriously, we’re still using IE. a version of it, BTW, that doesn’t resolve half the sites i need to use.

  136. 136.

    chopper

    February 15, 2019 at 6:45 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    yo browsa so old, dennis ritchie wrote it back in college!

  137. 137.

    MoxieM

    February 15, 2019 at 6:46 pm

    That’s some beautiful kitty-cat.

  138. 138.

    MoxieM

    February 15, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    Hey I swear my comment posted itself! Good thing I was being kind kind and polite, instead of how I actually feel inside today (national and international events, grrr. Dealing with the US Dept of State is fucked up and shit w/r/t my kiddo renewing her passport.) Why they make that tough for expats it beyond my ken! I believe we are falling apart. Woe.

  139. 139.

    chopper

    February 15, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    @Martin:

    yo browsa so old, when you post somethin’ to newsgroups the fucker does it SEVEN TIMES

  140. 140.

    chopper

    February 15, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    yo browsa so old, it got archie and veronica tattooed on its arms!

  141. 141.

    Roger Moore

    February 15, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    @chopper:
    Your browser’s so old it has to render goatse as ASCII art.

  142. 142.

    Dan B

    February 15, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    @Yutsano: My brother lives 20 miles east of Seattle at the base of Tiger Mountain. They got about 38 inches of snow. Here on a hill in the city we’ve got 3 inches left on the ground after a night of showers and a mostly sunny mild day. My brother’s place is in the shade of tall trees so they’re probably stuck in the snow for another week. We’re standing
    up a small tree that fell over in the snow. Another system is not welcome. Jet Stream perturbations and errant polar vortexes are big trouble.

  143. 143.

    Just One More Canuck

    February 15, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    @AThornton: that’s quite a common business model – Accenture does the same thing

  144. 144.

    chopper

    February 15, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    @Dan B:

    better not happen. here in N seattle i got branches to cut down before anything else comes to town.

  145. 145.

    imonlylurking

    February 15, 2019 at 7:30 pm

    @jacy: I’m glad you posted this. Today is bonus check payday, so I can buy more art AND donate. Can you do tote bags? Cuz I kinda want that frog on a tote bag.

  146. 146.

    Mary G

    February 15, 2019 at 7:39 pm

    @Yarrow: Hang in there. You’ve been suffering a lot of family illnesses, and I know how stressful it is. You have no control over so much.

  147. 147.

    Keith P.

    February 15, 2019 at 7:51 pm

    @chopper: Your browser is so old you got in on a CD that arrived in the mail.

  148. 148.

    Mnemosyne

    February 15, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    We got to leave work early for the holiday weekend, and how am I spending that time?

    As warm-blooded cat furniture. ? Specifically, I have to lay on the bed with a blanket over my bent knees to form a tent for Charlotte to nap in. Because she’s a silly kitty.

  149. 149.

    MomSense

    February 15, 2019 at 8:14 pm

    Samwise looks so handsome sitting on that lovely carpet.

    I’m a little sad today. It would have been my friend Maya’s 53rd birthday. She was a brilliant chef and had traveled the world. It was tough for her to be unwell and trapped by illness in her house most days. I don’t really believe in any kind of afterlife but it would be wonderful if she could be traipsing the alps in her native Switzerland.

  150. 150.

    MomSense

    February 15, 2019 at 8:29 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Sending you a big hug, Yarrow.

  151. 151.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 15, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    @MomSense: Both you and your son whose friend died have been on my mind. I can only hope it’s some conslation that Maya is beyond what surely was achingly stressful for her.

  152. 152.

    MomSense

    February 15, 2019 at 8:48 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho:

    Thank you. ????

  153. 153.

    Skepticat

    February 15, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    @StringOnAStick: I wish you the best of luck. I’m willing to bet (and hope) you’ll join the legions who say, “Why didn’t I do it much earlier?” My insignificant other had both knees replaced within two months, and he and others have said that the key to having it go well is doing the exercises religiously before and after to strengthen your leg muscles for proper support of the joints. Please let us know how you’re doing.

  154. 154.

    J R in WV

    February 15, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    @Skepticat:

    THIS!!

    Do the physical therapy according to the PT guys! I did, and while I still have some tendonitis in my shoulders, and the wife has nearly 70 y o knees, we’re both so much better off than we were before the replacement work.

    And while we both saw people in the PT suite at the hospital right after the surgery who were obviously not going to do the PT work as necessary, we did it as directed, and are so much better off than those who did not. Not to brag, but you gotta do the work to recover. So do it!!

  155. 155.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 15, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Your browser’s so old it has to render goatse as ASCII art.

    Oh man…glad I didn’t see that until after dinner!

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