Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Republicans can’t even be trusted with their own money.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

“woke” is the new caravan.

No Justins, No Peace

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

The revolution will be supervised.

Consistently wrong since 2002

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

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The Repubs may be starting to regret their latest corrupt bargain. Greg Sargent, at the Washington Post, “After Republicans prostrate themselves before Trump, he humiliates them further”:

… Senate Republicans have been searching for a way out of a very difficult jam. They will be forced to vote Thursday on President Trump’s declaration of a national emergency. Yet, with four of them apparently ready to vote to terminate the emergency, this will mean Trump would have to veto the measure, enraging both the president and his voters.

So Republicans hit on a preposterously absurd scheme, in which they would vote on a measure that would place limits on future national emergencies — by requiring regular congressional votes to keep them going — without placing any limits on this particular one. This was supposed to give cover to Republicans, enabling them to stand with Trump’s national emergency while creating the impression that they are generally concerned by the issues raised by the president’s abuse of power.

But it now turns out that Trump is killing this effort, too…

Senate Republicans will now be forced to vote Thursday on the resolution terminating Trump’s national emergency because the House passed one recently, and under the law, the Senate is required to act on it. And Republicans will not be able to vote to limit national emergencies later, to give themselves political protection from Thursday’s vote.

To be clear on what just happened here, Republicans tried to come up with a way to give Trump the national emergency he wants, while also giving themselves a way to mitigate the political damage from it…

If any of the entrapped GOP members know anything about history, they might be meditating upon the idea that Caligula didn’t appoint his horse to the Roman senate because he had such respect for horses.

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  4. 4.

    Plato

    Gotta admire how the devious minds of evil rethugs act to subvert governance and yet constantly trying to hold on to the powers of government.

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    At the tail end of Jared Kushner challenged on conflicts of interest by Trump aides, book claims , an otherwise monotonous repeat of trump admin infighting, I found this fever dream of delusion:

    For her part, Ivanka Trump is focused on cementing a Trump dynasty to rival the Kennedys and Bushes by becoming commander-in-chief herself one day, according to Ward. “She thinks she’s going to be president of the United States,” Cohn is quoted as saying.

    Somebodiy’s Dunning has been thoroughly Krugerized.

  8. 8.

    Jay

    @mrmoshpotato:

    It’s late at night here. Of course Hair Furour wouldn’t have an actual horse in the Senate. Horses are better than that.

    Just wondering which ReThug Senator is Insane Clown POSus’s horses ass,

    Aside from all of them.

  13. 13.

    Bruce K

    Well, with apologies to Lois McMaster Bujold, the GOP has put so many horses’ asses into Congress, they can’t do much worse with a whole horse.

    And my sympathy for the plight of GOP Congresspersons is nonexistent now. Hey, they let the scorpion climb on their backs to cross the river. They don’t get to be surprised when it stings them mid-stream.

    I apologize to any scorpions I may have maligned with the comparison to Trump.

  15. 15.

    Jay

    @Mary G:

    The growth of “the bubble” suggests that there arn’t more competent evil people in the ReThug wading pool, ( which really needs some chlorine).

    Eg, Jacob Whol. He incompetently faked death threats and reported them to the Cops. He’s now under investigation on more than a few felony charges.

  17. 17.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jay:

    Just wondering which ReThug Senator is Insane Clown POSus’s horses ass,

    Aside from all of them.

    That’s the correct answer. The horse suit is a little bottom-heavy. It’ll happen when all Republicans crowd into the horse’s ass half.

    “Who’s leading this thing?”
    “No one! We don’t need a functional government!”

  18. 18.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Jay:

    there arn’t more competent evil people in the ReThug wading pool,

    Mitch McConnell comes to mind.

  19. 19.

    Jay

    @Mary G:

    Competent evil people will take a long hard look and realize that the ReThugs, the Gullibillies and the Deplorables are not a path to power,

    But instead, prey.

    And there’s a lot of legal means to prey on them, for great fortune.

  25. 25.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jay: “What’s your five year plan?”
    “Pissing on Mitch McConnell’s grave. Wait! Are you telling me he’ll be dead and buried inside of five years?!”

  26. 26.

    geg6

    A correction to the article is that it is now five GOP senators voting against Drumpf’s “emergency.” Mike Lee, who was the lead on the “compromise,” has announced his vote against.

  27. 27.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Jay:

    wading pool was an allusion to the up and comers.

    Got it, I was just speaking to the evil genius that is uniquely McConnell’s. Underestimate him at one’s own peril.

  33. 33.

    geg6

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Heh. Apparently so. Gotta say, Mike Lee has surprised me a few times recently. He’s nuts, as is every Republican, but he’s not completely lost to humanity. Yet.

  35. 35.

    NotMax

    Tank you, Instant Pot. Good price on pears at Costco when was there last week, so whipped up a mess o’ them this way yesterday. (As usual didn’t follow the recipe exactly, did some tweaking.)

    Not the prettiest looking dessert but darn tasty.

  36. 36.

    Jay

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Gen 1,2,3 were evil, and competent.

    Gen 4 were raised inside of the conservapedia bubble, and were evil, but not very competent,

    There’s a few Gen 3 terminators left like Yurtle,

    Most of the Gen 4’s left in 2016/2018 to spend more time with their lawyers,……

    Gen 5, run the clown car now and Jacob Whol etc, are Gen 6.

  37. 37.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jay: Oh my flying spaghetti monster!

    I was going to post the ‘sliding into third’ line from the diarrhea song. I couldn’t remember it correctly, so off to the Googles.

    I found this: https://diarrheasong.blogspot.com/?m=1

    You’re very welcome everyone. Try not to wake anyone up with howls of laughter.

  38. 38.

    mrmoshpotato

    @NotMax:

    Not the prettiest looking dessert but darn tasty.

    Your taste buds and stomach will find it in their hearts to forgive you.

  39. 39.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Jay: TBH I can’t put Wohl in with the likes of Gohmert or Nunes. Wohl is an outsider trying to run his grift on the marks ginned up for the fleecing by FOX. He’s a James O’Keefe wannabe without the eye for style. He has no aspirations to join the more accomplished hucksters w/in the GOP who have managed to find themselves elected “representatives” in the US govt. Their kind of scam takes work and years of dedicated ingratiating subservience to the powers that be.

    For people like Wohl, work is anathema. He will do anything to avoid having anything as pedestrian as a “job”.

  40. 40.

    opiejeanne

    @Major Major Major Major: Thanks for sharing. Really cool.

    I really don’t understand what the Republicans are doing at all with this 30 day renewal nonsense, I don’t understand how it would give them cover, and just why are they so terrified of a mean tweet from Current Resident?

    Pardon me if I babble a little. It’s almost 4 and I was awakened at 2:30 by the house sitter texting us that she won’t be able to spend the night with the cats tonight. Uh. Thanks? Not sure why I needed to know this at this hour. Sleep is now a memory but I’m not quite awake either.

    Wednesday was photography day for the cabin, a bit nerve-wracking. the realtor is doing it up in a manner I didn’t expect. I mean, it’s a cottage, less than 1000 sq ft, and she’s got a professional photographer AND a videographer, and I’m told there was a drone involved but we missed that part of the process because we were busy moving stuff they didn’t want in the photos (oh my gosh, there’s a laundry basket in the laundry area!) including us. This may be part of why sleep is avoiding me right now.

  42. 42.

    Amir Khalid

    @Jay:

    Competent evil people will take a long hard look and realize that the ReThugs, the Gullibillies and the Deplorables are not a path to power,

    But instead, prey.

    Vladimir Putin is more aware of this than most.

  44. 44.

    mrmoshpotato

    @opiejeanne: Oh noes! You’re really not going to like when they want the washer and dryer moved out of the laundry area for the photos.

  46. 46.

    debbie

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Colbert was talking about this book last night. According to the author, one of the first things Trump wanted to do was fire both Ivanka and Jared. I’m not sure I believe that.

  47. 47.

    debbie

    @Jay:

    What would it be like if they were competent.

    Those red Christmas trees would have been actual Handmaids.

  53. 53.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @mrmoshpotato: Neither was that morning. I still remember the look on the little girl’s face as she peered from the door of her hut looking at the dumb ass gringo out in the frog choking rain with his pants around his ankles and his ass gushing a weeks worth of food and fluid every 5 seconds.

  56. 56.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @debbie:

    one of the first things Trump wanted to do was fire both Ivanka and Jared

    I am not so credulous as to believe that for a NY second.

  60. 60.

    Betty Cracker

    @OzarkHillbilly & @debbie: Me three — saw that claim in a NYT article on the book the other day and thought it sounded like bullshit. On the other hand, we know Trump is a big old chickenshit who’s afraid to confront and fire people despite having “you’re fired” as a signature line in a bad TV show. So maybe when Javanka came to his office complaining about Kelly, he pretended to take their side and vice versa, playing both sides of the fence out of pure cowardice.

  61. 61.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @debbie: I can see trump raging thru the West Wing screaming at the top of his lungs that he was gonna rip their heads off and shit down the holes after some instance of extreme Jarvanka stupidity, but not for a second do I believe anyone thought he meant it.

  66. 66.

    JPL

    @satby: That is so sad.

    opiejeanne, I have no idea what good news momsense wants to share, but I hope she hit the jackpot.

  71. 71.

    hueyplong

    I believe Trump “talked about” firing Jarvanka. I’d guess he mentions firing everyone at one point or another during any 48 hour cycle unbroken by golf, but the puffy coward never actually does it.

    He probably talked about firing Kelly on a daily basis. And parades.

    But unless Fox & Friends or President Coulter says someone needs to be fired, it’s just talk.

  74. 74.

    hueyplong

    @germy: If charged and convicted, Wohl, as a white male Republican, could face days in prison, but only if he threatens the judge or is caught tampering with the jury.

  76. 76.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @germy: There’s no honor among RWNJ grifters:

    Activist Ali Alexander, who organized Wohl’s trip to Minneapolis and went with him to the police station, posted a video early Wednesday morning trying to distance himself from Wohl. Alexander claims that Wohl showed the faked direct messages to the police. In the documentary, Alexander compares Wohl to both Batman and Iron Man. But now, he’s backing away fast, saying Wohl may be a “bad actor.”

    “I don’t know what’s going to happen, but man, it doesn’t involve me, and I’m pretty excited about that,” Alexander said.

    Alexander went on to suggest that his issue with Wohl isn’t that he lied, but that he did it in a clumsy way. “It confirms that he’s not operating at a level where there’s useful misinformation, but kind of stupid, vanity-filled, ego-fueled disinformation,” Alexander said. “And that won’t look good for Jacob.”

    Alexander distanced himself further from Wohl in an interview with The Daily Beast on Wednesday. Alexander, whose name is also on the police report, said he didn’t know whether or not Wohl faked the messages. But he said he’d be happy to work with police if they decide to investigate Wohl.

    “If they do, I can’t wait to cooperate,” Alexander said.

    Bus? Meet Jacob Wohl.

  77. 77.

    germy

    @hueyplong: Yes, I remember the last controversy with him. The press conference with that other dude about the FBI. And everyone was saying how he’d be “locked up any day now.”

    I don’t know. I’m sure if I did 10% of what this kid gets away with, I’d be wearing a prison jumpsuit.

  79. 79.

    germy

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    it isn’t that he lied, but that he did it in a clumsy way. “It confirms that he’s not operating at a level where there’s useful misinformation, but kind of stupid, vanity-filled, ego-fueled disinformation,”

    And that’s their morality, in a nutshell. The sin isn’t doing wrong, it’s doing wrong incompetently.

  81. 81.

    Betty Cracker

    @germy: Wohl is the Einstein who teamed up with Laura Loomer, the genius who live-streamed handcuffing herself to one of the two front doors at Twitter HQ to protest her de-platforming. It’s a miracle he didn’t slam his dick in the car door on his way to file a false report at the police station.

  84. 84.

    germy

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Mayor Dale Massad was arrested when he opened fire on a SWAT team that had come to arrest him on charges of practicing medicine out of his home without a license. Sheriff Chris Nocco said Massad was a violent drug user who kept a stash of weapons in his home, had had previous run-ins with the law

    He was taken alive!

    So… a white guy then.

  89. 89.

    germy

    @Betty Cracker: When I see him always avoid consequences for his actions, it makes me wonder if I’m living in a bubble. Because for almost a decade disgruntled RW commenters on RW blogs are wondering why Hillary and Obama and Susan Rice are still evading prison.

    And this makes me wonder if I’m their LW equivalent. Every day I come here expecting stories about fifty year prison terms for Manafort, fraud charges against little Jacob, etc. And it never happens.

  90. 90.

    rikyrah

    Which is why those responsible will NEVER EVER be forgiven.??

    We phucking begged those assholes to think about the Courts, and they responded that they couldn’t be bullied by us ‘using ‘ the Courts to ‘scare them’??

    Amanda Blount ? (@amandablount2) Tweeted:
    This is why the GOP blocked Obama’s appointments. They were playing the long game. This entire con wasn’t just to get Trump into the WH, it was to put far-right Judges into lifetime positions to change laws and set precedent in court hearings. We will feel this for generations. https://t.co/l0lyBdOWSJ https://twitter.com/amandablount2/status/1106019132817006593?s=17

  93. 93.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    the evil genius that is uniquely McConnell’s.

    I don’t see him as a genius. A genius would have repealed Obamacare, no problem. His caucus desperately wanted to, and he fucked it up. However, he definitely clears the bar of ‘competent’, and is chillingly evil. Cartoon villain evil, actively hunting for every method of hurting as many people as he can within the rules. He has succeeded as well as he has mainly because nobody ever thought to be so big an asshole as to break all the norms of the Senate until McConnell, and his major failures have been because he just could not resist an opportunity for world-class ‘fuck you’ sadism, like destroying Medicaid.

    He’s wildly unpopular in Kentucky. Approval rate lower than 40%. He knows that doesn’t mean a thing as long as you tell Kentucky voters the brown horde is coming. Still, I will hope against hope he gets booted out in 2020, because absolutely no one has done more to damage the United States than McConnell. Trump is a piker who hurts the country only because McConnell is happy to let him.

  95. 95.

    Baud

    @rikyrah: To be fair, they’re not asking for forgiveness. Most of them would probably do it again if they had the chance. It’s our lesson to learn who our friends are.

  98. 98.

    JPL

    Weissmann has finished his work for the Mueller investigation, and that is the strongest signal that Mueller is about finished with his report. I’m afraid that there will not be further indictments. ugh

  107. 107.

    hueyplong

    @rikyrah: I’m not even sure Putin would care who won a Sanders vs.Trump election.

    That’s about all you need to know about Wilmer.

  108. 108.

    Betty Cracker

    @Frankensteinbeck: I hope someone winds up a Trump-humping crank to mount an anti-establishment challenge to McConnell in the GOP primary. Someone dumb and angry enough to run third party if he loses. That might be the best bet to dislodge the Senatortoise.

  112. 112.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @JPL:

    I’m afraid that there will not be further indictments. ugh

    I have been told that his job is actually to recommend the top criminals for indictment, not indict them himself. His indictments are for the people he has to squeeze to line up the evidence for whoever indicts the top criminals. That is my possibly incorrect understanding, and not what I was expecting.

    @rikyrah:

    Sanders’ answer is defensive racist bullshit.

    Oh, man. He seriously pulled the ‘we need to stop seeing color’ card to defend his whiteness. Wow.

  114. 114.

    Lapassionara

    @JPL: How do you know he is finished? Why do you say, if he is finished, that Mueller is almost done?

  118. 118.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Frankensteinbeck: He also suggested that we pick our candidate on his/her capabilities and their accomplishments.

    Guess that means he’s ending his campaign any day now.

  119. 119.

    MomSense

    @JPL:

    I was up way too late last night. A beautiful guitar arrived at my house yesterday for my son – an incredible gift. It’s his dream guitar, the kind that was first played by the musicians he idolizes during the depression. A favorite of songwriters for generations. He started playing the old finger style blues songs and just couldn’t stop beaming. Today he is talking to his luthier friend who cannot believe what has happened. Their family makes world class guitars and they are beyond thrilled.

    We have a jackal fairy godmother angel – cannot believe how this person has made a difference in my son’s life.

  125. 125.

    zhena gogolia

    @rikyrah:

    I’m getting e-mails from an operation called “Ditch Mitch.” Does anyone know anything about this? I’ve been hesitant to contribute yet.

  126. 126.

    Josie

    @MomSense:

    I can just imagine the joy your son feels playing such a special instrument and what it means to you as his mother. Bless the jackal who made this possible.

  128. 128.

    MomSense

    @JPL:

    We were talking about my grandmother yesterday. She was an amazing musician who was offered a spot with a touring company in the 1920s but her father thought that kind of music and dancing were the work of the devil. She used to play those old songs on the piano and sing them for him when he was a baby. She died just shy of 100 years old when he was four. It was only years later when he circled back to early blues music he realized why it was so familiar. Life is interesting. What they were singing about is so poignant now.

  135. 135.

    Sab

    @MomSense: Just curious. What kind of guitar was it? I used to play classical guitar, and when I gave mine to my granddaughter it wasn’t very useful because she sings and wanted a folk guitar (strings closer together.) She still plays it a lot but it’s not optimal.

  138. 138.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @opiejeanne:

    Do they have an interest in violence against NA women?

    Yes. The same interest they have in hating Black Lives Matter. Whites can brutalize (the rape rate is horrific, something like 80% of Native American women) Native Americans with impunity under the current system. They want to maintain that privilege.

  139. 139.

    rikyrah

    @opiejeanne:

    @rikyrah: I don’t understand why they’d do that. Do they have an interest in violence against NA women?

    Who do you think is perpetrating this violence against NA women?
    there is your answer

  141. 141.

    JPL

    I just listened to a little bit of Beto and I’d vote for a Kamala/Beto ticket. Of course I’m going to vote for the democrat anyway.

  143. 143.

    Betty Cracker

    I like Beto, but I don’t think he has the policy chops or even a sufficient notion of what he wants to accomplish to be president. Read this and groan aloud. I realize the current president lacks these essential qualities and is a horrible person to boot. But we really don’t want to lower that bar, I hope.

    That said, I’m glad he’s in the race because one of his major talents seems to be articulating potentially divisive “identity” issues within the Democratic base and persuadable independents in a way that white people can understand. See rikyrah’s comment at #102 for a contrast with Sanders, who is terrible at dealing with so-called identity politics and just makes things worse every time he opens his yap.

  144. 144.

    Shelley Matheis

    So, none of these nimrods ever had a parent who told them “You can’t have your cake and eat it.too.””

  146. 146.

    Ruckus

    @mrmoshpotato:
    This is part of their problem. They don’t want to be effective. They are shit stirrers. They don’t want effective government because that means the money doesn’t flow as fast to their paymasters. And the lowly get some of what those paymasters don’t get. They believe that ineffective government is the answer to all of their issues, because effective government spends money and has programs for a much larger slice of the population. Notice that they don’t mind spending money on defense stuff, which they get a big chunk of, but they mind spending it on say the VA. Add in the racism that they worship and large chunks of the population get fucked by republican policies, which exist of stealing as much as possible and paying as least as possible.
    ETA This really isn’t much different than conservative policy has been for a very, very long time. What is different is that they have become more empowered to cheat, lie, steal, to get what they want. Not that they didn’t do that before – Nixon – but it is much more common now. Like universally common. They know that if too many get the things that they are trying to steal, they will be marginalized, and badly.

  147. 147.

    opiejeanne

    @rikyrah: I know who the rapists in general are, I meant do these lawmakers have a personal interest in it? Never mind, they probably do: their kids, their relatives, some of their own past behavior, etc.

  149. 149.

    danielx

    “After Republicans prostrate themselves before Trump, he humiliates them further”

    And they were no doubt surprised by this, for reasons I am at a complete loss to explain.

    It is by no means the first time congressional Republicans have come up with a deal to try to save Trump from his own fuckups, and then see him blow the deal up of his own accord. On the other hand, millions of voters had access to his history which clearly indicated he isn’t to be believed or trusted – and voted for him anyway. What that says about those millions of voters is depressing, but professional pols do deals. You’d think they would have figured out by now that you can’t do deals with a guy who lies the way he breathes, and who is ruled by his own whims.

  150. 150.

    opiejeanne

    @opiejeanne: Ok, Now I understand.

    “…During a House Judiciary Committee markup on the 2019 bill to reauthorize the law, Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) offered an amendment to repeal provisions in the 2013 law that give tribes jurisdiction over non-Native people who commit crimes of domestic violence, dating violence or who violate a protection order against a victim on tribal land.

    He claimed that non-Native domestic abusers’ constitutional rights might not be upheld if they harm a Native woman on tribal land and have to go before a tribal court. His amendment would have also stripped out new language in the 2019 bill to expand tribes’ jurisdiction over non-Native abusers who commit crimes of sex trafficking, stalking and violence against law enforcement officers on tribal land….”

    They’re so worried that a white man might be inconvenienced that they try to do this.

  151. 151.

    opiejeanne

    @danielx: It’s amazing to me that he told the crowds when he ws running for president that he was a snake that couldn’t be trusted. He quoted that story with the punchline “You knew I was a snake when you took me in!”
    He told them to their faces and the idiots voted for him.

  152. 152.

    Wapiti

    @Jay: Isn’t the standard for filing false reports 16 felony charges? Or is that just for POC like Smollett?

  153. 153.

    Ruckus

    @danielx:

    On the other hand, millions of voters had access to his history which clearly indicated he isn’t to be believed or trusted – and voted for him anyway.

    That information can’t be right, after all he’s the republican candidate. It’s just a smear job, like all politicians do.
    Just explained it in one sentence. Trump is so abhorrent that a lot of people probably couldn’t believe that it was all true. He’s been on TV for god’s sake! Yeah it boggles the mind that thinking and reading and understanding is such a lost art. Plus he’s a massive racist and really, that is far more important to a lot of people than some can imagine. Some folks think that every problem in the world is because of “others.” They are racist to their very cores and will never change, their entire world revolves around racism and hate.

  155. 155.

    SFAW

    @MomSense:
    Congrats to your son and to you, sounds wonderful (all aspects of it).

    And thanks to the anonymous jackal who did that for you and your son!

  157. 157.

    5ab

    @geg6: He’s LDS (mormon). They are very weird and RWNJ but they are actually religious and have recognizable religious moral values.

  158. 158.

    Matt McIrvin

    Twitter leftist friends now deciding that ACTUALLY, GenX is the worst generation so they can reject all the non-Bernie candidates for being in the bad age window: too young to be Bernie but older than AOC.

  159. 159.

    Emma

    @MomSense: Whoa, Nellie! That was a heck of a gift. Adding my thanks to the jackal that made your son’s day and maybe his career!
    ETA: And now that I know which one it was, double on Nellie!

  161. 161.

    Aleta

    Thank you godmother guitar giver. (Giving me tears). Giving an instrument is like giving life. Thanks Momsense for nurturing a musician cause we need them so much right now.

  163. 163.

    Aleta

    The guitar gift story about Momsense’s gradmother and

    @OzarkHillbilly: May the circle be unbroken… Congrats.

    made me remember a song by Jen Armstrong, about transmission of song from her grandmother to her and then to her daughters.

    …
    And even when her life was hard
    a song helped pull her through.
    I remember when she smiled at me
    said ‘I realize it’s true
    The melodies that came to me
    Have found a home in you.’
    …
    You’re the lucky one
    who carries the song.

    Carry the Song (by Jen Armstrong on Dancing in the Circle)

    [Youtube brings up a different Jennifer Armstrong from Britain. This Jen is one from a Chicago family of musicians (also w/ celtic isles background). Their home was a 40s–70s center for musicians (and folklorists like Joseph Campbell, Studs Terkel, Lomax and song collectors ) and a meeting place for songs/dance from Appalachia, the Delta and the South, British Isles and Chicago itself.]

  164. 164.

    sgrAstar

    @geg6: Mike Lee IS totally lost to humanity. He’s my senator- SAD!- and I know him well. Don’t be fooled. Lee is a dangerous mormon nut with an ego the size of Mt Timpanogos.

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