Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Bark louder, little dog.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

A Senator Walker would be an insult to the state and the nation.

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

Republicans in disarray!

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

A Senator Walker would also be an insult to reason, rationality, and decency.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Hot air and ill-informed banter

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The willow is too close to the house.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

The words do not have to be perfect.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

I was promised a recession.

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  1. 1.

    JPL

    OMG I am stealing Schooley’s tweet

    I think I preferred when White House March Madness meant Obama did brackets.

  3. 3.

    Van Buren

    The hardest part of this insanity will be after his downfall, when Hannity tells us that he was never a true conservative.

  4. 4.

    debbie

    “There is collusion. Because something has to be going on.”

    What’s going on, you jackass, is that people are catching on to what you really are and moving away from you as fast as they can.

  5. 5.

    geg6

    Okay, I’m confused. Why would Trump have any say over McCain’s funeral? Wasn’t he laid out in the Capitol and the funeral in the National Cathedral? What power does the president have over any of that?

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    LOL. There’s a whole “After you, Alphonse” “After you, Gaston” vibe going on around here. John and Betty, just please leave your damn posts up. We’re pretty smart. We’ll figure it out.

  7. 7.

    Tenar Arha

    Wanting a bathtub of praise from a grieving family for honoring the dead man’s wishes is a sign of class

    /sarcasm

    ETA AFAIK all he was required to do was NOT attend, frickin’ POS

  11. 11.

    A Ghost To Most

    We don’t need Alexa to know he’s decompensating.

    Tweets per day and lies per day are both increasing rapidly.

    I have this stupid hunch that KAC is a mole.

  12. 12.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @geg6:

    I wonder if he’s thinking of the order to lower flags to half-staff on federal properties. Otherwise, AFAIK, the POTUS has no say about who is honoured by lying in state at the Capitol, or who gets a funeral at the National Cathedral. Maybe Adam can provide some detail.

  13. 13.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    RICHARD NIXON

    It could be 1960 all over again, Edgar.
    Bobby’s got the magic, like a goddamn
    rock star. They climb all over each
    other just to touch his clothes!

    Beto at Penn State (photo)

  14. 14.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    Here in Beautiful Downtown Glendale, the rain is falling and my legs are still sore for my romp though the poppy filled hills on Monday. Madame and the kid are cruising the Western Caribbean and sent regards from Belize, I think.

  15. 15.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Nothing actually originates in his rotted remnant of a brain or whatever is under that dead possum. So I assume these are all echoes of something somebody said on Hannity or Breitbart or lunatic AM radio.

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    And yet, the vast majority of Republican voters still approve of him and the job he’s doing.

  22. 22.

    batguano

    Google must’ve changed their algorithm recently. My news feed now usually includes a photo or two of a Maine Coon cat. Granted that’s more important that much of the news on my Google News feed.

  23. 23.

    Bookeater ( formerly JosieJ)

    @A Ghost To Most:

    KAC and her husband are professional Republican ratfuckers from way back. I bet they’re hedging their bets. After Trump, she’ll out herself as the author of the anonymous NYT editorial, her husband will point to his Twitter record of protest, and they’ll both maintain their cushy position in Republican politics. But they’re ratfuckers to the core.

  24. 24.

    Aleta

    “I gave him the funeral”
    All the buildings and planes, every person in the military, all the paintings and the silver and the gilt—all his.

  25. 25.

    trollhattan

    @dmsilev:
    “He’s getting things done.” That’s what they say. Their things list and my things list are where we differ. A lot. But things, there are.

  26. 26.

    hilts

    Trump’s presidency is a goddamn crime against humanity. He belongs in a straitjacket within the lockdown unit of a psych ward under heavy sedation. He’s a pure, unadulterated psychopath.

  27. 27.

    debbie

    It would have been nice if there had been some booing when he said McCain wasn’t his kind of guy, but I guess that’s expecting too much.

  28. 28.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @debbie: No, you’re correct. He refused to lower them until he was shamed into it. It seems to me that it was pointed out that the law required it.

  29. 29.

    JPL

    @debbie: That was McCain. trump threw a hissy fit, but his staff mentioned that his polls would increase so he finally did.
    Ivanka and Jared crashed the funeral because Graham wanted them to attend.

    Or what Ceci n est pas mon nym said.

  31. 31.

    trollhattan

    Is this where McCain’s worthless kid reminds us Trump is “not a Republican”? No matter what Trump says, liberals remain the real enemy.

  34. 34.

    Elizabelle

    How is it that the late John McCain has gotten so under Trump’s skin, these last days in particular?

    What made him reach out to rail against McCain, again? What a dolt.

  39. 39.

    Leto

    OT: Today was the third day I was able to get onto the elliptical machine. My knees have gained enough flexibility to where I can slowly pedal around. My therapist is thrilled at this because Monday I had this large weight shift to my left because my right knee still isn’t as flexible as the left (66 degrees of flexion for the right, versus 85 degrees for the left. Accident impact side was eighth), while today it was more fluid. It’s slow progress, but it’s progress.

    I can’t wait for him to start attacking the Khan family again. There really is no bottom he will ever reach. It’s continually down. He’s a drowning man, grasping at anything to stay afloat. Hopefully he pulls all the Republicans with him.

  40. 40.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @dmsilev:

    And yet, the vast majority of Republican voters still approve of him and the job he’s doing.

    They specifically love outbursts like this. They see the president they elected whining and bitching about every little thing, and they see themselves and feel validated. The Republican Party lives on grievance over not getting their way all the time and no longer being catered to as the gold standard of humanity.

  41. 41.

    Adam L Silverman

    @geg6: @SiubhanDuinne: He didn’t. He wasn’t given a state funeral on par with that of former presidents. The only thing that, I think, the President had to okay was use of military aircraft to transport McCain’s remains from Arizona to DC. And even that was most likely done with Mattis authorization, not the President’s. The President could have stopped it, just as he could have probably ordered the military – the Arizona National Guard and the Commanding General of the Military District of DC and through him the Army’s Old Guard and the Navy Choir and band and the all Services honor guard – not to provide honors befitting a veteran, but had he done either of those things, my guess is Mattis would’ve gone ballistic.

  42. 42.

    AThornton

    The vast majority of self-identified Republican voters approve of Trump and the total number of self-identified Republics has dropped to 26%. So he has a high approval of an ever-shrinking population.

    As the WaPo puts it:

    “Eighty percent of Republicans” may sound good, but if the GOP is only 26 percent of the electorate, that gives Trump just under 21 percent of the entire pie. That’s awful, to put it mildly.

  46. 46.

    Adam L Silverman

    @debbie: He was. He wasn’t going to do it until someone made it very clear to him that he needed to order them to half mast for longer than 1/2 a day.

  49. 49.

    rikyrah

    Please never forget that John McCain’s original sin is that he took the Steele Dossier to the Intelligence Community.

    The rest of the noise from Dolt45 is just that.

  52. 52.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Elizabelle: The dossier. He’s convinced that McCain was in on the Clinton’s conspiracy with Mueller, the British, Comey, the DOJ, FBI, CIA, and the rest of the US Intel Community, and the Democrats conspiracy of creating the dossier to prevent him from becoming president. Which, given that the dossier didn’t get released until after the election, was barely teased by David Corn the week before and got completely overrun by Comey’s letter to Chaffetz, makes no sense whatsoever. But consider the source.

  56. 56.

    Leto

    @debbie: I’m chugging along. It’s happening slower than I would like, faster than what some expected. Biggest thing is that I’m progressing. I’m going to chalk it up to all the well wishes/positive energy I get from you all ?

    (Except Adam; he knows what he did!)

  59. 59.

    debbie

    @rikyrah:

    Did you see this comment?

    She wasn’t “booted”. She resigned as was appropriate once she won the primary. This headline and the language in the article are intentionally misleading, as is typical of this GOP biased rag.— Be Kind Rewind (@druser) March 20, 2019

  60. 60.

    Jay

    @debbie:

    I forget where I saw it, but a bunch of the concertina wire the Military was photo opped installing, is now in Mexico, and being used for home security.

  61. 61.

    AThornton

    @rikyrah:

    She resigned as was entirely appropriate. Believe NOTHING you read about AOC that originates from The Post, Fox News, etc. The RW is scared shitless of Rep. Ocasio-Cortez and is conducting a lie and smear campaign against her.

  62. 62.

    WaterGirl

    @Leto: Great news!

    I know it must feel excruciatingly slow to you, but I am guessing that you are progressing faster than 99% of the people who had been injured in the way that you are. Am I right? I am speculating that they call you “miracle boy” or something similar behind your back. :-)

  64. 64.

    dmsilev

    @AThornton:

    Nice to know the President of the United States has the critical thinking skills of an eight year old.

    Based on the eight-year-olds I’ve known, that’s giving Trump too much credit.

  65. 65.

    Adam L Silverman

    @rikyrah: Not as nefarious as it seems:

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff have been removed from the board of the Justice Democrats PAC, according to a report.

    The Democrat from New York and Saikat Chakrabarti, who was her campaign chairman, were de-listed last Friday, the Daily Caller reported on Monday, citing documents from the Washington, DC, Department of Consumer and Regulatory Affairs.

    The action was taken because the two never told the Federal Election Commission that they controlled the PAC while it was simultaneously supporting her primary campaign, the report said.

    The two joined the board in December 2017 and continued to hold “legal control over the entity” leading up to her June 2018 Democratic primary win over incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley, the report said.

    Ocasio-Cortez was removed from the board the same month but was listed as an “entity governor” until March 14, the Daily Caller reported, citing corporate filings.

    But Corbin Trent, the congresswoman’s spokesman, said she left the PAC as soon as she beat Crowley.

    “She left the board, I think it was the day after the primary. They just filed the paperwork in D.C. (this month) So there was a change there,” he said.

    He also said Ocasio-Cortez sent an email to the Justice Democrats’ lawyer announcing her resignation.

    “We all resigned because we thought it was the right thing to do, not because it was the law,” Trent told The Post.

  68. 68.

    Leto

    @rikyrah: I thought the original sin was he was shot down (missile, not STDs)? /s

    Also ty ?

    @debbie: He better have a have waste removal contract for his funeral site. It will be needed.

  70. 70.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    @Leto: Good for you for managing the elliptical. When I was in cardio rehab, they classified that and the rowing machine as hard and wouldn’t let us use them for the first few weeks. I still find the elliptical machine difficult.

  74. 74.

    trollhattan

    @Jay:
    Are you telling us Mexico stole our concertina wire?!?

    This really is a crisis. Or emergency. Or something.

  76. 76.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Leto: And I’m not sorry in the least!

    What was it that I did?

    I am glad to see that you’re making progress.

  77. 77.

    Leto

    @WaterGirl: The surgeon who did the initial surgery honestly didn’t think I was going to live. After the first 24 hours he revised his assessment to yeah, he’ll make it to, 48 hours later, he’ll walk/run/cycle again. The reason they didn’t think I’d survive is that the type of injury I had (open book fracture of the pelvis with perenial shearing) has low survival odd (that was the most severe of the numerous injuries). To say that I was known to most of the entire hospital staff is an understatement. I’d meet people 2/3/5 weeks later who would greet me and say, “I know you don’t remember me, but I was in the ER/OR when they brought you in. I’m so happy you made it and are doing better!” I always thanked them profusely (I was basically doing that since the moment I “woke up”), so if they did call me “miracle boy” or something similar, it was due to them that they could ?❤️

  78. 78.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Leto: It was. The President has actually been making insulting comments about McCain going back to 1999. At least that’s the earliest recording of him doing so during an interview.

  82. 82.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jay: @trollhattan:

  83. 83.

    Leto

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Last Sunday was my five month anniversary mark. It’s taken a lot of work to get there. My in-home PT is pushing me to get to outpatient therapy (also on recommendation from my ortho doc), so she’s starting to challenge me (within safe limits) more. She’s awesome and knows how to push my buttons :) I’m probably going to find machines like that, as well as my bicycles, problematic from here on out but we’ll see.

    @JPL: ?

    @Adam L Silverman: Haha, is expect no less from a stinkin’ grunt! You made me admit (in public) that TOC coffee was good! :p

    And thank you :)

  84. 84.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Leto: Really, that was the issue. TOC coffee isn’t good, as we discussed, unless your only alternatives are no coffee or Starbucks coffee.

  88. 88.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jay: All I know is I’m pretty sure I know the colonel who is going to get yelled at over this.

  89. 89.

    hueyplong

    @Adam L Silverman: Sad, but also hilarious, in that I did not think of the idea that Wall would simply be stolen, as opposed to circumvented.

    Now we must position Space Force above the Rio Grande.

  91. 91.

    WaterGirl

    @Leto: Thanks for all the info. I won’t argue with you :-) but I will posit that what the medical staff provided was amazing care, and that it was necessary but not sufficient. You were fit and strong when you got hurt and I suspect those two characteristics were necessary for you to make it, as well.

    Any way you look at it, we are all so happy that you made it and are going to come out the other side still getting to be you.

  92. 92.

    WaterGirl

    @Gin & Tonic: Good for you, on both counts! I never did hear how you got from “the bones just won’t mend” to “hey I am finally better”. What magic finally got your bones to knit?

  93. 93.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Leto: It is a very good question. I’m not sure we’ll ever get an actual answer. It is possible the President sought some sort of political favor for a donation and McCain, notoriously cranky at the best of times, told him to go fuck himself. It may be that Stone and Manafort who were connected to the President back then had a problem with McCain at the time and it bled over. It could’ve also been a grudge inherited from Roy Cohn who mentored the President, Stone, and Manafort.

    I also have a theory, more like a wild assed it makes sense, but there’s no proof explanation, about Roy Cohn. I would not be surprised if we one day found out that from very early on – as in when he was working as McCarthy’s legal bully – that Cohn wasn’t actually a Soviet asset. Largely because they were blackmailing him over the fact that he was heavily closeted at the time. His post McCarthy/Red Scare work would have positioned him as a keen look out for possible other assets, willing or unwilling, witting or unwitting, to recruit. It would explain a lot. It is also completely based on nothing other than a hunch.

  94. 94.

    raven

    @Leto: Way to hang brah.

    I had a squamous cell carcinoma cut off my leg today. The dermo came in and said, “man, you don’t look like you are 69”! I “said cool, let’s cut this mofo out’!

  96. 96.

    Leto

    @WaterGirl: Thanks, me too. The surgeon did credit my fitness level with helping. I was a multiple ultramarathon finisher, mud runner (think Tough Mudder), cyclist, weight lifter, military guy… while I’m trying to set realistic expectations (just run/cycle again, pain free) it’ll be hard not to push just a little bit more. :)

    (Honestly I wasn’t trying to do a humble brag above. I just wanted to share where I was before and what my current expectations are.)

  97. 97.

    Leto

    Post was eaten. Round 2:

    @WaterGirl: Thanks, me too! He did credit my fitness level with helping. I was a multiple ultramarathon finisher, mud runner (think Tough Mudder), cyclist, weight lifter, military guy… I’m trying to set realistic expectations right now (walk without aid, then run/cycle again, relatively pain free) but I can’t say that I won’t push just a bit more :)

    (Honeslty not trying to do a humble brag, just trying to show where I was before, and how my thinking about my fitness influences my rehab decisions.)

    @raven: Haha, I can only hope to be half as awesome as you when I grow up. :)

  98. 98.

    Leto

    Testing? Had two posts eaten.

    Edit: posting eaten posts here:

    Post was eaten. Round 2:

    @WaterGirl: Thanks, me too! He did credit my fitness level with helping. I was a multiple ultramarathon finisher, mud runner (think Tough Mudder), cyclist, weight lifter, military guy… I’m trying to set realistic expectations right now (walk without aid, then run/cycle again, relatively pain free) but I can’t say that I won’t push just a bit more :)

    (Honeslty not trying to do a humble brag, just trying to show where I was before, and how my thinking about my fitness influences my rehab decisions.)

    @raven: Haha, I can only hope to be half as awesome as you when I grow up. :)

  99. 99.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    @Leto: I remember. I mostly lurk here, but if good wishes help, have some more…and keep us posted on your progress

  100. 100.

    chris

    @debbie:

    hamentaschen

    Bless you! New to me, looked’em up and I am so making those and the ones with an orange apricot filling.Thank you!

  106. 106.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @debbie:

    Yeah, pretty much. I think he was late in the first place to order flags lowered, raised the one on the WH the minute he could, was told by his peeps the optics were FUCKING TERRIBLE, and grudgingly had them ordered to half staff for another week, or until McCain was properly buried, or something.

    Aside from everything else, he has absolutely no sense of symbolic gestures. Even I feel he himself is immune, you’d think he might be a little more aware of the kinds of semiotic messages he sends to his MAGAts.

  111. 111.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Leto: I’m going to make and eat dinner, so try to stay out of moderation for the next 45 minutes or so!

  113. 113.

    debbie

    @NotMax:

    Can’t get my recipe out now, but dough made with cream cheese is very tender and tasty. I’d go looking for a recipe like that, if I were looking for one.

  116. 116.

    Mike in Pasadena

    @debbie: Can’t wait to pee on his grave and maybe commit some vandalism, too (at a minimum, headstone graffitti).

  117. 117.

    Tenar Arha

    @SiubhanDuinne: IIRC I’ve said it before, no class at all. He couldn’t do it even when he was manufacturing publicity for himself during interviews way back when. He’ll never get the respect he’s always craved bc he cannot suppress even the ridiculous urge to kick someone when they’re dead.

    (And I’m one of those people who think the hero worship of John McCain, by the media in particular, was fundamentally unhealthy for our democracy).

  118. 118.

    PPCLI

    Aside from everything else, he has absolutely no sense of symbolic gestures.

    I think he has a very astute appreciation of the meaning of symbolic gestures. He was holding off on the flag lowering precisely because he wanted to send a message of contempt, and he only relented when people convinced him that the political cost wasn’t worth it.

  119. 119.

    WaterGirl

    @Leto: I didn’t see a humble brag anywhere; what I saw was you giving the docs et al all the credit, and not any to you.

    Besides, I think there are times a person does get to brag. If you’re in high school or college and you’re a good student and you brag about getting a A on something, you’re an asshole. But if you’re a C student and you busted your butt studying for the final or you worked your ass off on some paper, and you get an A, you damn well do get to brag about it — what you’re really doing is sharing your excitement.

    Personally, I think you get to do any and all bragging you want to as you get back to being able to do more things. We share your excitement and want to hear about it.

  121. 121.

    chris

    @debbie: I have a non-practising Jewish friend here. He says there are three Jewish families down this end of Nova Scotia so we’re a little short on kosher bakeries :-)

    @NotMax: Excellent, thanks! Adam, too. (March 2016 seems like it was in another lifetime. The sane lifetime.)

  122. 122.

    Breth

    I think they may want to save some concertina wire for a certain President’s grave site.

  123. 123.

    glory b

    @NobodySpecial: Penn State is melanin challenged. I’ve been there.
    The black kids join AA fraternities and sororities just to make sure they have interactions with each other.

  125. 125.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    @Adam L Silverman: Come back! We need you!

    What is the latest rumor intelligence on the Mueller report ?

    Chris Hayes says there is a lot going on, but he didn’t want to cite anything. Meanwhile, over at Spectator USA, Cockburn says:

    Cockburn March 9, 2019 6:58 pm

    Cockburn hears that Mueller wants to indict the President but Barr doesn’t – while the two men agree that Trump’s children should be charged

  126. 126.

    J R in WV

    @NotMax:

    Me too. Former USN sailor, used to have to raise and lower the flag on the fantail, had to know how to do it half-mast. Long, long time ago.

  127. 127.

    Adam L Silverman

    @chris:

    He says there are three Jewish families down this end of Nova Scotia

    They’re on 8 hour shifts. One family on, two families off.

  131. 131.

    Ruckus

    @dmsilev:
    First off, they like other racists like themselves. Second, there is always a segment of any population that will never admit a mistake, it’s always someone else’s fault. Third, stupid dipshits seem to like other stupid dipshits and he is their role model.

  133. 133.

    Ruckus

    @AThornton:
    I’ve known 5 yr olds with far better thinking skills that the traitor in chief. He doesn’t come close to that of an 8 yr old.

  135. 135.

    Leto

    @Avalune: I wanted to make sure Adam understood it. You know those Army guys. Gotta keep them busy, otherwise they get into schenanigans. :)

  136. 136.

    Ruckus

    @Adam L Silverman:

    But consider the source.

    I’d really, really rather not, I’d like to maintain some semblance of sanity. I mean, there’s not a lot of extra in there in the first place.

  137. 137.

    Ruckus

    @Leto:
    Progress is good, just remember that sometimes it isn’t as fast as other times. I’ve had to relearn to use both hands at different times and a non functioning shoulder. Always remembered – “All good thing in their own time.”

  138. 138.

    Ruckus

    @Adam L Silverman:
    You do know that Trump thinks so highly of himself that he just knows that he could fly a plane and never get shot down or captured. Thing is though that if any of this happened he probably would have crashed after shorting out all the electronics because he would have pissed himself, and then wouldn’t have lasted the first 5 minutes because he would have asked them “Don’t you know who I am?” and his captors would have by then have figured out he was a worthless piece of shit and said “A dead man.”

  139. 139.

    terben

    Who else but Trump do you know who could get into an argument with a dead guy…and lose?

  144. 144.

    Tehanu

    @PPCLI:

    I think he has a very astute appreciation of the meaning of symbolic gestures. He was holding off on the flag lowering precisely because he wanted to send a message of contempt, and he only relented when people convinced him that the political cost wasn’t worth it.

    The thing is, all the messages he wants to send about people who haven’t sucked up to him are of contempt when they’re not just plain, sheer hate. The idea of actually honoring someone else — anyone else — offends him because in his mind, no one but himself deserves honors and praise. That even goes for his lackeys and cohorts; haven’t you noticed how often his praise of one of them is barbed in some way? — full of barely concealed condescension at best, and even less well concealed hostility at worst.

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