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It’s Not Terrorism When White People Do It

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Donald Trump and his Department of Homeland Security have decided they don’t want to bother the very fine people who terrorize America:

The Department of Homeland Security has disbanded a group of intelligence analysts who focused on domestic terrorism, The Daily Beast has learned. Numerous current and former DHS officials say they find the development concerning, as the threat of homegrown terrorism—including white supremacist terrorism—is growing.

In the wake of this move, officials said the number of analytic reports produced by DHS about domestic terrorism, including the threat from white supremacists, has dropped significantly. People in and close to the department said this has generated significant concern at headquarters.

“It’s especially problematic given the growth in right-wing extremism and domestic terrorism we are seeing in the U.S. and abroad,” one former intelligence official told The Daily Beast.

The group in question was a branch of analysts in DHS’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A). They focused on the threat from homegrown violent extremists and domestic terrorists. The analysts there shared information with state and local law enforcement to help them protect their communities from these threats.

We don’t worry about body counts when they’re untermensch.

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  1. 1.

    cmorenc

    When you don’t like the facts, kill the facts. And then make some up that fit the narrative you want to be true.

  2. 2.

    guachi

    Democrats need to hammer that Republicans are weak on terrorism and cite domestic, right-wing terrorists

  3. 3.

    scav

    It somehow only makes sense if we really are just being raised in an NRA-approved game preserve, and really what they object to with foreign terrorists is that they’re poaching, doing a job real ‘mercans actually can do and prefer to do themselves.

  5. 5.

    Mary G

    Well, for Twitler their killing POC, Jews, libtards, and Mooslims is a feature, not a bug.

  9. 9.

    Barbara

    So when the next incident comparable to the Oklahoma City bombing happens, how long do you think it will take before they blame Obama?

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    There is no limit to the damage that this administration is doing. It’s like they live for it.

  11. 11.

    MattF

    @Barbara: Considering that the maximum speed of information transfer is the speed of light– i.e., about a foot per nanosecond…

  12. 12.

    hells littlest angel

    You say terrorists,
    I say Sturmabteilung,
    Let’s call the whole thing off

  13. 13.

    oatler.

    The Trump regime’s desire (lust) to foment domestic terrorism is currently winning bigly.

  15. 15.

    LightCastle

    @cmorenc: The Doctor speaks some truth on the issue.
    “You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common.
    They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views.
    Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.”

    https://youtu.be/uqpq9tP14PA

  16. 16.

    Mike in NC

    Fat Bastard just wants to protect his neo-Nazi base. He also has apparently decided not to bother trying to repeal ACA until his shit base reelects him. Looks like the “Party of Healthcare” slogan didn’t make it past 48 hours. Whocoooda known?

  17. 17.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Barbara: Considering how little understanding of time or sequence the Far Wrong’s target audience has for anything that happened before last Christmas, I’m half surprised they aren’t blaming Obama for Oklahoma City itself.

  19. 19.

    TaMara (HFG)

    FFS, I’ve barely had two cups of coffee and gotten the dogs out for a walk and this morning is already depressing the hell out of me.

    Time to step away from the internet….

  21. 21.

    A Ghost To Most

    A slight correction: it’s not terrorism when white christians do it.

    White eco warriors are considered terrorists. Antifa are considered terrorists.

  23. 23.

    Amir Khalid

    @CliosFanboy:
    Wikipedia has the answer:

    A Planck time unit is the time required for light to travel a distance of 1 Planck length in a vacuum, which is a time interval of approximately 5.39 × 10^−44 s.

  24. 24.

    WaterGirl

    @TaMara (HFG): Yep. Because of all the ugliness out there — and the recent propensity to political candidate ugliness on BJ of late — I so appreciate the calming, non-political posts that you and Betty Cracker have been putting up.

  26. 26.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    I would almost say this a conspiracy to encourage it, but then it’s the Trump admin, these lazy idiots would think Fox news reports are all the analysts and statistics they need.

  27. 27.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    I’m half surprised they aren’t blaming Obama for Oklahoma City itself.

    They blame him for 9/11, and I wish that was a joke.

    @rikyrah:
    I said at the time, he believes Puerto Ricans are Mexicans. Most hard racists do. I would not be surprised if on a test half of America said Puerto Rico was part of Mexico, not the US.

  29. 29.

    Gravenstone

    @guachi: They’re not weak on it, they encourage it when it serves their purpose. Both as a means to further their own goals and as a pretext to criminalize the “other”. It all depends upon the color and religion of the individual terrorist.

  30. 30.

    Mart

    @Mary G: You have the mass murderer who shot up country music fans in Vegas, and the idiot Democrat who shot up Republican Congresscritters at baseball practice. Think there would be some concern “they” are coming for us…

  31. 31.

    Gravenstone

    @Mike in NC: McConnell and friends probably made it abundantly clear that they, and by extension Trump would get their collective asses handed to them should he be so stupid as to make healthcare a signature issue for 2020. So they turned to the tried and true approach of planning to screw everyone they can the microsecond they further consolidate their power.

  32. 32.

    Mart

    @rikyrah:

    The president believes white farmers in the midwest are true Americans and therefore entitled to aid, and Puerto Ricans are not.

    Google search says: “There are currently some 330,000 veterans and some 35,000 Puerto Ricans in active duty service. The Puerto Rico Army/Air National Guard and the Reserve components represent another 10,000 Puerto Ricans in uniform. At least, 375,000 Puerto Ricans are veterans or are still wearing the uniform.May 28, 2017”.

  33. 33.

    Gravenstone

    @rikyrah: His butthurt all comes back to that one mayor badmouthing him because of his callous disregard for the people of Puerto Rico. He’s determined to punish everyone there because she hurt his feelings.

  34. 34.

    A Ghost To Most

    @Mart:
    My evil plan would be to get a bunch of Nashville Kuntry fans trapped in a venue, then forcing them to listen to lefty country. Not that it would change them, but it would make them nuts.

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    @Gravenstone: I disagree. Trump was punishing everyone in Puerto Rico BEFORE the mayor spoke up about Trump’s callous disregard. That’s WHY the mayor spoke up. Why blame the mayor??

  38. 38.

    Betty Cracker

    @A Ghost To Most: There’s such a thing as lefty country? I am a fan of classic country (Patsy Cline, etc.) but I only hear the current stuff on jukeboxes in taverns. Never heard any lefty country there (not a surprise, considering where I live), but I was appalled to learn recently that there’s such a thing as country rap, and my dog, is it awful!

  39. 39.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @WaterGirl:
    Yeah, this goes directly back to Trump thinking Puerto Ricans are Mexicans. Everything else is a detail. It’s not like he isn’t a proven white supremacist. Once someone explained to him that Puerto Rico is American, it just became a part of Mexico that happens to be under American rule and he can ethnically cleanse.

  40. 40.

    MattF

    @Betty Cracker: I’d put Steve Earle in that category– and there are many other ‘Americana’ musicians who are not classic country and not explicitly political either, e.g., Gillian Welch.

  41. 41.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @WaterGirl: No no, the Trumpthuglican playbook is to screw over some not-white-fundy group, provoke public complaint by a member of (or someone representing) that group, & then flaunt the complaint as justification for screwing them over in the first place (& now, if possible, even harder). It works for their base, which is largely innocent of any linear concept of time, including cause & effect.

  42. 42.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @MattF:

    Yeah, this goes directly back to Trump thinking Puerto Ricans are Mexican

    That’s so frigging stupid that has to be Trump’s reasoning.

  43. 43.

    cmorenc

    @Betty Cracker:

    @A Ghost To Most: There’s such a thing as lefty country?

    There’s a wonderful role-reversal lampoon of sexist stereotypes in country music “Girl in a Country Song” by Maddie & Tae. Caution: your eyes might hurt after seeing guys in the sorts of suggestive clothing in which women are often adorned in country music videos, especially the not-so svelte guy in bib overalls taking a shower @apx. 2:50. Hilarious!

  44. 44.

    Gravenstone

    @WaterGirl: I’m not blaming her. Only pointing out that his level of disdain for PR increased significantly after her warranted criticisms of him. Remember that he immediately and consistently verbally attacked her following her statements about him. It’s all been downhill from there. Although I will admit that Frankensteinbeck’s comment about intentional conflation with “dirty Mexicans” also makes a great basis for his disdain of Latinx people in general.

  48. 48.

    A Ghost To Most

    @Betty Cracker: Some people know it as Americana.

    DBT
    Jason Isbell & The 400 Unit
    Steve Earle
    Sturgill Simpson

    My favorites. There are a bunch more. Lucinda Williams is not just a fine sativa.

  49. 49.

    scav

    I wonder if he’ll actually whine that all the flooded Nebraskan farmers aren’t being properly “grateful” enough for him doing a stardard action of the god-damned minimum of his job. Can photo-ops of him renaming post-offices — “The best name ever! No other president has ever named such a great name ever before! All the best names!” — with chanting crowds behond him be far behind?

    Hallmark will have to come up with a whole line of gilded Thanking Trump cards: “Thanks for mailing me my tax refund!” “All Hail for repainting the lines on the local interstate!”

  51. 51.

    WhatsMyNym

    @rikyrah:

    Adam Serwer? (@AdamSerwer) Tweeted:
    The president believes white farmers in the midwest are true Americans and therefore entitled to aid, and Puerto Ricans are not.

    It’s easier for him to skim money off the top when the money goes to “white farmers” (industrial farm businesses) in the mid-west, than when it goes to Puerto Rico.

  56. 56.

    ruemara

    @Gravenstone: Nah. He was determined to keep those brown folks in their place, from stealing from good white americans. Only some of this is a personal issue about Yulin. What it is, is plain old deep, ugly, violent racism.

  57. 57.

    A Ghost To Most

    @Betty Cracker: Exactly. As opposed to the constant drumbeat of godz, gutz, gunz propaganda from Nashville. Real songs by real people.

    The real lefties are those I mentioned. Sturgill Simpson’s “Metamodern Sounds in Country Music” is an eye-opening first listen.

  58. 58.

    Barney

    Meanwhile, in the UK:

    A neo-Nazi who admitted plotting the murder of the Labour MP Rosie Cooper will not face a second retrial for membership of the banned group National Action.

    Jack Renshaw, 23, bought a 48cm (19in) gladius knife to kill the West Lancashire MP and a female police officer against whom he had a grudge, the Old Bailey heard. The plan was scuppered by Robbie Mullen, who was at a meeting in a pub when Renshaw announced he was going to kill Cooper.
    …
    However, he denied membership of the banned extreme rightwing group National Action, as did Andrew Clarke, 34, and Michael Trubini, 36, from Warrington.
    …
    The court heard how the convicted National Action leader, Christopher Lythgoe, 32, of Warrington, and his right-hand man Matthew Hankinson, 24, from Merseyside, were present when Renshaw outlined his plans.

    National Action is the first extreme rightwing group to be proscribed by the government since the second world war. It was banned in December 2016 by the then home secretary, Amber Rudd, over its support of Cox’s murder.

    Lythgoe reacted to the news of the MP’s death by telling members they would “just shed one skin for another”. The north-west contingent continued to meet in pubs and trained together at a mixed martial arts gym in Warrington, it was alleged.

    Mullen, however, became disillusioned and began leaking information about National Action to the campaign group Hope Not Hate. By July 2017, Renshaw was on police bail for making hate speeches, for which he was later convicted.

    Having decided to try to die via “suicide by cop” rather than face a seven-year jail term, he bought a large machete to take revenge on Henderson and kill Cooper. Renshaw unveiled his plan at the Friar Penketh pub in Warrington on 1 July 2017. Afterwards, Mullen, 25, from Widnes, Cheshire, reported the threat to Hope Not Hate and Renshaw was arrested.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/02/man-who-plotted-mps-avoids-retrial-for-national-action-membership

    And just to show there are good people on both sides: “It can now be reported that Renshaw is a convicted paedophile who was jailed for 16 months last June months after he groomed two underage boys online.”

    I am currently engaged in an argument on a British forum, in which various right wingers are moaning that all this talk of white supremacists is just unfair, because Christchurch is on the other side of the world, and the ADL report saying over half of US extremist killings in the last decade were by white supremacists doesn’t count because the ADL hasn’t got over Hitler (seriously, that’s almost a verbatim quote), and the media is reporting this neo-Nazi plot to murder an MP far too much. Because 9/11. Where do they find these fucking people?

  59. 59.

    Sloegin

    In Homeland’s defense, the investigation probably fingered too many current employees. Gotta protect your own.

  60. 60.

    Jim Parish

    Some of Charlie Daniels’ early work – “Uneasy Rider”, “Long Haired Country Boy”, maybe “Still in Saigon” – was leftish, but he moved hard right pretty quickly. I think I’d class Dolly Parton as on the left, too, although not much of her work is political.

  61. 61.

    Dan B

    @Frankensteinbeck: Mexico Island to be specific. It’s one of the seven, and counting, Mexicos.

    I heard that Hawaii may be up for Pacific Kenya. Has a ring to it, emmi right?

  62. 62.

    J R in WV

    @Betty Cracker:

    “There’s such a thing as lefty country? ”

    Willy Nelson and the other “outlaw” stars that tour with him, for one example. Lucinda Williams and that ilk for another.

    Wife also very fond of Patsy Cline.

  63. 63.

    J R in WV

    @Jim Parish:

    I think I’d class Dolly Parton as on the left, too

    Dolly is adored by wife, for good reason. Her primary charity has put something like 100,000,000 books into the hands of children!! Plus all the jobs she has created in East Tennessee. After growing up in grinding poverty, like Loretta Lynn, also a good person.

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